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| gibi | #startmeeting nova | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 20 16:00:15 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gibi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 16:00 |
| gibi | \o | 16:00 |
| stephenfin | o/ | 16:00 |
| lyarwood | \o | 16:00 |
| bauzas | \o | 16:00 |
| artom | ~o~ | 16:00 |
| elod | o/ | 16:00 |
| gibi | lets roll | 16:01 |
| gibi | #topic Bugs (stuck/critical) | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (stuck/critical) (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:01 | |
| gibi | no critical bugs | 16:02 |
| gibi | 8 new untriaged bugs (-4 since the last meeting): #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New | 16:02 |
| gibi | triage backlog looks healthy | 16:02 |
| gibi | is there any bug we need to discuss? | 16:02 |
| gibi | good | 16:03 |
| gibi | :) | 16:03 |
| gmann | o/ | 16:03 |
| gibi | gmann: o/ | 16:03 |
| gibi | #topic Gate status | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Gate status (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:03 | |
| gibi | Placement periodic job status #link https://zuul.openstack.org/builds?project=openstack%2Fplacement&pipeline=periodic-weekly | 16:03 |
| gibi | placement periodic seems green | 16:03 |
| bauzas | huzzah | 16:03 |
| gibi | also I saw things merging to master | 16:03 |
| gibi | so the master gate should be in an OK state | 16:03 |
| gibi | is there any gate issue we need attention? | 16:04 |
| gibi | #topic Release Planning | 16:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Release Planning (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:05 | |
| gibi | Milestone 1 is 27th of May, which is next week | 16:05 |
| gibi | I proposed a spec review day for 25th of May, next Tuesday. #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-May/022436.html | 16:05 |
| gibi | shout please if the date is not good for you | 16:06 |
| bauzas | lgtm | 16:06 |
| * bauzas needs to create a new spec | 16:06 | |
| * stephenfin too | 16:06 | |
| gibi | any other release releated topic to discuss? | 16:07 |
| * gmann too | 16:07 | |
| gibi | gmann, bauzas, stephenfin: can we merge the existing ones first please? (joking) | 16:07 |
| stephenfin | no. | 16:08 |
| * stephenfin has spoken | 16:08 | |
| stephenfin | ;) | 16:08 |
| gmann | :) | 16:08 |
| gibi | :D | 16:08 |
| gibi | then moving o | 16:08 |
| gibi | n | 16:08 |
| gibi | #topic Stable Branches | 16:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stable Branches (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:08 | |
| gibi | copying elod's notes | 16:08 |
| gibi | "final train release" is out (20.6.1) - train-em patch is updated and ready for review & merge ( https://review.opendev.org/790761 ) | 16:08 |
| gibi | rocky / queens / pike blocked, due to grenade job failure, workaround proposed in devstack ( https://review.opendev.org/791246 ) | 16:08 |
| gibi | however wallaby..stein is not blocked, there are too many random failure: no merge happened in the last ~ two weeks... needs investigation | 16:09 |
| gibi | EOM | 16:09 |
| gmann | I pinged another devstack core for https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/devstack/+/791246/ | 16:09 |
| stephenfin | once those are merged, we should fixup the release notes | 16:09 |
| stephenfin | and squash them for the eol releases | 16:09 |
| elod | gmann: thanks! | 16:09 |
| * stephenfin will try find time to do that and reap the faster build time rewards | 16:10 | |
| lyarwood | gmann: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/devstack/+/792108 is also an issue on stable/wallaby FWIW | 16:10 |
| lyarwood | and I'd really like to get the device detach stuff landed on wallaby as we are still seeing failures with the old logic there | 16:11 |
| gmann | lyarwood: ack, will check thi9s | 16:11 |
| gibi | lyarwood: I'm kicking the recheck button on the detach one | 16:11 |
| lyarwood | gibi: ack I'll try to spend more time on stable next week | 16:11 |
| gibi | thank you all. | 16:11 |
| gibi | if you see failures that are also on master (use the logstash while we still have it) then let me know and I will try to spend some time on them | 16:12 |
| gibi | anything else about stable? | 16:12 |
| elod | nothing from me :X | 16:13 |
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| gibi | #topic Sub/related team Highlights | 16:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Sub/related team Highlights (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:14 | |
| gibi | Libvirt (bauzas) | 16:14 |
| stephenfin | I'm guessing bauzas has gone afk | 16:16 |
| gibi | ok | 16:16 |
| gibi | moving on | 16:16 |
| gibi | #topic Open discussion | 16:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:16 | |
| gibi | (artom) Follow up on the IRC meeting schedule change. | 16:16 |
| gibi | thanks artom for the poll | 16:16 |
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| gibi | it seems we have two possible slots on Tuesday | 16:16 |
| * stephenfin has an item here that wasn't on the agenda in time and will pipe up later | 16:16 | |
| gibi | stephenfin: ack | 16:17 |
| bauzas | whoops, sorry was otp | 16:17 |
| bauzas | nothing to report, sir. | 16:17 |
| gibi | bauzas: ack thanks | 16:17 |
| bauzas | (this ran fast) | 16:17 |
| gibi | so for the meeting | 16:17 |
| gibi | Tuesday from 15:00 UTC of from 16:00 UTC | 16:18 |
| * bauzas nods | 16:18 | |
| gibi | everybody was happy with both slot | 16:18 |
| bauzas | use your stick | 16:18 |
| gibi | then it is 15:00 UTC so I get off earlier :) | 16:18 |
| artom | So the earlier one is 7:00 for dansmith and melwitt | 16:19 |
| artom | Ah, no, 8:00 | 16:19 |
| artom | 11 - 3 is 8, not 7 | 16:19 |
| bauzas | correct, but it's 7am for 2 weeks AFAICR | 16:19 |
| bauzas | every 6 months | 16:19 |
| gibi | hm, that still means 7 during the winter, isnt it? | 16:20 |
| gmann | yeah | 16:20 |
| bauzas | 4pm for me in winter means 7am for west coast folks, indeed | 16:20 |
| artom | Yeah, with the meeting pinned to UTC we go from -4 to -5 during winter here on the East coast | 16:20 |
| artom | So it'd go from 8:00 to 7:00 for the folks on NA west coast | 16:20 |
| bauzas | or ask them to move to France | 16:21 |
| bauzas | ? | 16:21 |
| bauzas | I'm sure dansmith would appreciate the relocation | 16:21 |
| * dansmith is double booked ... again :) | 16:21 | |
| bauzas | no worries, we just said you have to move | 16:21 |
| gibi | dansmith: is it UTC 15:00 or UTC 16:00 on Tuesday is better for you for the weekly meeting? | 16:21 |
| bauzas | but... no kidding, we can do 1600, this sounds better | 16:22 |
| dansmith | it's okay, won't work when DST ends, | 16:22 |
| dansmith | but okay for now | 16:22 |
| bauzas | and less invasive, as we usually took this slot on Thursdays | 16:22 |
| gmann | yeah after DST it will be 1 hr early | 16:22 |
| bauzas | so it would only be a straight 48 hours move | 16:22 |
| gibi | OK, then let's have it from 16:00 UTC on Thuesday | 16:22 |
| gibi | any last words? | 16:22 |
| gibi | on the meeting time :) | 16:23 |
| gmann | nothing | 16:23 |
| bauzas | maybe we could run office hours as asked by some contributors ? | 16:23 |
| gibi | #action gibi to move the meeting slot to Tuesday 16:00 UTC | 16:23 |
| bauzas | like, I can reasonably assess to be around on 0800 UTC every week | 16:23 |
| gibi | bauzas: yes, I offered multiple option on the ML to the dev from China, but no response yet | 16:23 |
| bauzas | my dog will just have to pee earlier on winter | 16:24 |
| gibi | I'm also happy to run formal meeting during one of the mornings one a month if that is usefull | 16:24 |
| gibi | s/one/once/ | 16:24 |
| bauzas | well, maybe not 'official' meetings | 16:24 |
| bauzas | but some kind of recorded office hours | 16:24 |
| bauzas | and people could use this slot for reaching the nova community | 16:25 |
| bauzas | no official decisions be made tho | 16:25 |
| bauzas | hence the 'office hours' terminology | 16:25 |
| bauzas | best of both worlds | 16:25 |
| gibi | bauzas: you are right we need keep the decision in this slot | 16:26 |
| gibi | where we have corum | 16:26 |
| bauzas | quorum* but yeah :) | 16:26 |
| gibi | that one yes | 16:26 |
| gibi | my greek is bad :D | 16:26 |
| bauzas | mine is just one word better than yours :p | 16:26 |
| gibi | ok moving on | 16:27 |
| bauzas | okay, sold | 16:27 |
| gibi | stephenfin: you wanted to say something | 16:27 |
| stephenfin | yup, looking for specless BP approval | 16:27 |
| gibi | do you have a link ?:) | 16:28 |
| stephenfin | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/792356/2 | 16:28 |
| stephenfin | sorry, had to grab it | 16:28 |
| stephenfin | and BP is here | 16:28 |
| stephenfin | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/multiqueue-flavor-extra-spec | 16:28 |
| gibi | so it is a new flavor extra_spec | 16:29 |
| stephenfin | yup | 16:29 |
| gibi | for me this sounds OK | 16:29 |
| gibi | any objections? | 16:29 |
| stephenfin | we provide a way to enable multiqueue via image metadata props | 16:29 |
| stephenfin | I'd like to extend that to the flavor. Patch is trivial and it helps operators (no need to rebuild) | 16:29 |
| * bauzas looks at the spec | 16:29 | |
| bauzas | well, the bP | 16:29 |
| bauzas | ah lol | 16:30 |
| stephenfin | bauzas: the patch is better - that's where I have it explained https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/792356/2 | 16:30 |
| stephenfin | I can copy paste that to the BP also :) | 16:30 |
| bauzas | I think we said in the past that extra specs don't really need a spec, but there are things we need to consider | 16:30 |
| bauzas | since we now have validation, would that mean a difference on the api side ? | 16:31 |
| stephenfin | There's nothing really new here. We already allow this to be configured via image metadata property | 16:31 |
| stephenfin | Yes, I've added a validator for that | 16:31 |
| bauzas | (in the past, as those weren't constrained, we were free to add as much as we wanted, without care) | 16:31 |
| artom | stephenfin, wait, did we consider the resize case? | 16:31 |
| stephenfin | artom: wdym? | 16:31 |
| bauzas | stephenfin: I'm not an API specialist, but would this validator make a different experience between two clouds ? | 16:32 |
| artom | 'cuz now you can resize to/from that extra spec | 16:32 |
| bauzas | gmann: thoughts on interop ? | 16:32 |
| stephenfin | bauzas: yeah, we've discussed that quite a few times before. Extra specs aren't part of the microversion | 16:32 |
| artom | stephenfin, just... if there are any implications | 16:32 |
| * stephenfin should write this down somewhere | 16:32 | |
| bauzas | stephenfin: yeah, that's the point I recall | 16:32 |
| bauzas | we decided that the same flavor on two clouds getting two different return codes for the same instance isn't a problem and doesn't require some signal | 16:33 |
| bauzas | and I'm OK with this | 16:33 |
| dansmith | bauzas: gibi: sorry for the late reply, I was on the other meeting that conflicts with this now. My TZ math was off, even 1500UTC works for me in non-DST, so I'm good with either on tuesday and can move my conflict that is there easily enough | 16:34 |
| stephenfin | bauzas: yeah, there's already massive interop things with flavors. For example, different virt drivers support different things or treat the same spec differently | 16:34 |
| stephenfin | so we've chosen to ignore that | 16:34 |
| gibi | dansmith: ack, thanks. we go with 16:00 UTC | 16:34 |
| dansmith | cool | 16:34 |
| bauzas | stephenfin: we discussed this when we introduced the extra spec validation framework but I wanted to speak here loud | 16:35 |
| stephenfin | artom: as for implications, the only one I'm aware of is that (I think) you'd need to use ethtool to configure the number of queues in the guest | 16:35 |
| stephenfin | I don't think that's done/doable by default, but sean-k-mooney can correct me | 16:35 |
| stephenfin | or would if they were here | 16:35 |
| gmann | bauzas: stephenfin right. that is what we already have in existing extra specs so it is not new from interop side too | 16:35 |
| gibi | stephenfin: so we allow resizing in both direction off -> on and on -> off. This is fine with me | 16:36 |
| stephenfin | yup | 16:36 |
| gibi | the same thing could happened already with rebuild to new image | 16:36 |
| stephenfin | also yup | 16:36 |
| stephenfin | (fwiw, I seriously doubt people will ever go on -> off, mind you - multiqueue is nearly always the thing you'd want nowadays) | 16:37 |
| stephenfin | I'm trying to document that but artom is being (correctly) annoying :P | 16:37 |
| artom | \o/ | 16:37 |
| gibi | any objection before I approve this specless bp? | 16:38 |
| bauzas | nope. | 16:38 |
| gibi | then it is approved | 16:38 |
| gibi | stephenfin: please add the bp link to the commit message of the implementation | 16:39 |
| stephenfin | ack, will do | 16:39 |
| stephenfin | and thanks | 16:39 |
| gibi | any other topic for today/ | 16:39 |
| gibi | ? | 16:39 |
| gibi | if nothing else then I go an play with the meeting schedule to move our meeting | 16:41 |
| gibi | I will drop a mail to the ML | 16:41 |
| gibi | o/ | 16:41 |
| stephenfin | o/ | 16:41 |
| elod | o/ | 16:41 |
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| gibi | #endmeeting | 16:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 16:42 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 20 16:42:05 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:42 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2021/nova.2021-05-20-16.00.html | 16:42 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2021/nova.2021-05-20-16.00.txt | 16:42 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2021/nova.2021-05-20-16.00.log.html | 16:42 |
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