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tellesnobrega_#startmeeting sahara14:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Feb 14 14:00:39 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is tellesnobrega_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'sahara'14:00
toskyo/14:00
jeremyfreudbergo/14:01
tellesnobrega_full attendance today14:01
tellesnobrega_hi folks14:01
tellesnobrega_#topics News/Updates14:01
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toskyI mostly went through reviews and approved some, and proposed a lot of backports14:03
tosky(I slowed down in the last days because I'm working (again, and this time for real) on the unified native Zuul v3 grenade job)14:03
tellesnobrega_I've been working on some NTP issues with CDH, the patch is up for review again14:03
toskyI have few patches to test on my queue though (for plugins, mapr and spark)14:03
tellesnobrega_I saw tosky's comments and replied to them, hopefully it should be good now14:04
tellesnobrega_other than that, I'm investigating hbase issue with cdh 5.11 and probably 5.13 as well14:04
tellesnobrega_it simply fails to start, don't really know why14:04
tellesnobrega_and started testing python314:04
tellesnobrega_trying to understand the pickle issue when connecting to instances14:05
jeremyfreudbergi'm working (slowly, not much time) on adding the missing api features to osc, dashboard14:05
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tellesnobregahi14:09
tellesnobregaI'm back14:09
tellesnobregainternet is breaking a lot today14:09
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tellesnobrega#chair tosky14:10
toskytellesnobrega: if you set your nickname to the one that you had when you started the meeting, you can set also other people as chairs14:10
tellesnobregalets see if I can14:11
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tellesnobrega_#chair tosky14:11
openstackCurrent chairs: tellesnobrega_ tosky14:11
toskyoki :)14:11
tellesnobrega_just in case14:11
tellesnobrega_any more updates?14:11
toskynot from me14:12
jeremyfreudbergnot from me14:12
toskyoh, there was a promotion on RDO and apparently the split sahara packages are working14:12
tellesnobrega_#topic Python 314:12
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tellesnobrega_tosky, nice14:13
tellesnobrega_so, for python3, I wanted to take the to discuss what I have found with some pickle debugging14:13
toskyah, yep14:14
toskythe tricky issue14:14
tellesnobrega_so, I started debugging the issue14:14
tellesnobrega_and the issue happens when we try to run the _connect command on the subprocess with pickle14:15
tellesnobrega_the only difference I found between are on the args14:16
tellesnobrega_and to be really sure, I'm not sure if it is an issue14:16
toskyso you used a python3 host with devstack? (I guess Fedora or Ubuntu Bionic)14:17
tellesnobrega_yes14:17
tellesnobrega_my devstack is running on centos14:17
tellesnobrega_but sahara on python3 is running on fedora2914:18
toskybut what about the instances: do we have any plugin where the base OS supports python3?14:18
tellesnobrega_hum14:18
toskymy open question so far is whether this happen only when you mix python3 (caller) and python2 (callee)14:18
toskyof course maybe it's not important to answer this question to fix the issue14:18
toskyon the other hand, if the code didn't work even with python3-python3, that would be different14:19
toskyapart from that, you may nag some python 3 expert, maybe this is something already know14:20
jeremyfreudbergit may be worth trying that py3-py3 case, yes -- it might be possible to create bionic images for Vanilla without much effort14:20
tosky(but I'm not particularly optimistic on that :)14:20
tellesnobrega_so, the only difference I found was on the args14:21
tellesnobrega_on python 2 the args are unicode and on python3 they are string14:21
tellesnobrega_not sure if that makes a difference at all for pickle, but that is as far as I got14:21
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tellesnobrega_any ideas?14:24
toskyiirc unicode in python2 is the same as string on python3, but maybe they are not exactly the same (or pickle does not encode them in the same way and some magic is needed)14:24
toskynot really an expert14:25
tellesnobrega_yeah14:26
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tellesnobrega_I will keep trying and probably ping some python3 experts14:28
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tellesnobrega_anything else on this?14:29
toskyI have a smaller python3 fix for sahara-tests which has already a +2: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/628654/14:29
tellesnobrega_nice14:29
tellesnobrega_I will review and approve14:31
tellesnobrega_done14:32
tellesnobrega_lets move on14:32
tellesnobrega_#topic Open Discussion14:32
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tellesnobrega_anything else for today?14:34
jeremyfreudbergthe survey question?14:34
tellesnobrega_yes14:34
tellesnobrega_thanks jeremyfreudberg14:34
tellesnobrega_I was asked if we want to update the survey question for sahara14:34
tellesnobrega_Sahara: What else can be improved in the Sahara project?14:34
tellesnobrega_that is our current one14:34
tellesnobrega_jeremyfreudberg, as future PTL you should make that call, I believe14:35
tellesnobrega_final decision at least since you will be the most responsible for handling its answers later on14:35
tellesnobrega_I think this question is a little vague, and we could narrow it down a bit to make the responses matter more14:36
tellesnobrega_what do you two think?14:36
toskylike adding something ".... (for example, ...)" ?14:37
jeremyfreudbergi think there's definitely a balance-- this question does not really inspire people to answer thoughtfully, but we also want to keep it general enough so that it's applicable to everybody (a couple PTGs ago, I proposed making the question about which services should be added to plugins, but that's too specific -- for some users there will be other more important things to mention)14:37
tellesnobrega_Maybe giving an example is a good addition14:38
jeremyfreudbergany ideas for what the example could be?14:39
tellesnobrega_for examples, adding new services, adding new data processing tools, making it more user friendly (how so)14:39
toskyI was thinking more a list of examples of possible answers14:39
tellesnobrega_something like that?14:39
toskysomething like that14:40
tellesnobrega_jeremyfreudberg?14:40
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jeremyfreudbergi don't want it to sound too much like a multiple choice question (because then the answers will be short and undetailed), but i think we should somehow allude to the two main categories of suggestions: related to the sahara service itself, and related to the operation of the clusters which sahara creates14:42
jeremyfreudberg(not sure exactly how to express the distinction between those categories in the most elegant words)14:42
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tellesnobrega_that makes sense, lets do this, we have until tomorrow to modify this14:43
tellesnobrega_lets try to gather some examples today and vote (by email) and we can update if needed14:43
jeremyfreudbergsure14:44
tellesnobrega_awesome14:44
tellesnobrega_I will try to write something14:44
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toskybefore we close:14:46
toskythere are few sahara-tests patches still open (S3 testing, APIv2 for scenario and tempest), but I'd like to ask for a quick check on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/590055/, which should unlock few other patches for python3 support14:46
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toskyups, wrong review14:47
toskyI meant this one: there are few sahara-tests patches still open (S3 testing, APIv2 for scenario and tempest), but I'd like to ask for a quick check on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/590055/, which should unlock few other patches for python3 support14:47
toskyargh, stupid clipboard14:48
toskyhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/608211/14:48
tellesnobrega_that one I have reviewed14:48
tellesnobrega_if you can take a look jeremyfreudberg :)14:48
jeremyfreudbergyes, i'll take a look14:49
toskyoh, also: you may have noticed few stable/pike backports whose tempest jobs are failing14:49
tellesnobrega_yes14:49
toskyI asked gmann, but further investigation is needed, so leave them there for now14:49
tellesnobrega_ok14:50
jeremyfreudbergone more thing: sahara does not appear on the list attending PTG. http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-February/002618.html .  i wanted to make sure that this is intentional (at least based on the current view)14:50
tellesnobrega_jeremyfreudberg, unfortunately it is14:50
tellesnobrega_I won't be able to make to the PTG14:50
tellesnobrega_not sure about tosky, but I'm assuming chances are small right now14:50
jeremyfreudbergfor me it is very up in the air too14:51
tellesnobrega_even if you make it, not much to discuss by yourself14:51
tellesnobrega_so I decided not to reserve a room14:51
jeremyfreudbergmake sense, even if unfortunate14:51
tellesnobrega_it is sad14:51
toskyI still don't know, my decision process is different than tellesnobrega_'s14:51
tellesnobrega_we manage to have enough to talk in the hour14:52
tellesnobrega_:)14:52
tellesnobrega_anything else for today?14:52
jeremyfreudbergthat's it from me14:53
tellesnobrega_tosky?14:54
toskynothing else from me14:54
tellesnobrega_thanks14:55
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tellesnobrega_see you all next week14:55
toskyo/14:55
tellesnobrega_lets try to have some question examples by email soon so we can have a decision14:55
tellesnobrega_#endmeeting14:56
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mlavalle#startmeeting neutron_l315:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Feb 14 15:01:45 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3'15:01
liuyulonghi15:02
haleybhi15:02
mlavalle#chair haleyb, liuyulong15:02
openstackCurrent chairs: haleyb liuyulong mlavalle15:02
slaweqhi15:03
slaweqliuyulong: welcome new core reviewer :)15:03
slaweqcongratz!15:03
liuyulongslaweq, thank you : )15:04
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mlavalle#topic Announcements15:04
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mlavalleYeah, reiterate congratulations to liuyulong for becoming core15:05
haleyb+1 :)15:05
mlavalleThe idea is for liuyulong to take over the leadership of the L3 sub team15:06
mlavalleand chairing this meeting15:06
slaweq++15:06
mlavallein our conversations, haleyb, slaweq and decided that we don't want to rush him into it15:06
mlavallebut feel free to start easing into it as you feel comfortable15:07
* haleyb can have that Emeritus title he's always wanted :)15:07
liuyulongI've talked with haleyb yesterday about hosting this meeting. Yeah, let me get ready for this.15:07
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mlavallecool, let us know how you feel and feel free to take over whenever you are ready15:08
mlavalleI think we have said we want to move this meeting to Wednesday at 1400 UTC15:09
mlavalleis that still a good time / day?15:09
liuyulongyes, it's good15:10
liuyulongWorks for me15:10
mlavallehow about you haleyb and slaweq?15:10
haleybyes, i can still attend15:10
slaweqworks for me, I have wednesday all free15:11
slaweq(at least so far)15:11
mlavalleok, so I'll submit a patch later today15:11
mlavalleand let's try to have this meeting on Wednesday next week15:11
slaweq++15:12
mlavalleThe other announcement is that we have our Stein-3 milestone on March 4 - 815:12
mlavalleSo let's try to focus our review efforts on blueprints that need to merge:15:13
mlavalle1) minimum bandwidth based scheduling15:13
mlavalle2) Port creation in bulk15:14
mlavalle3) subnet adoption15:14
mlavalle4) Network segment range management though the API15:15
liuyulonghttps://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/stein-315:15
liuyulong^^15:15
mlavalleThanks liuyulong15:15
mlavalleany other annoucements?15:16
mlavalleok, let's move on15:17
mlavalle#topic Bugs15:17
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mlavalleWe have fresh new one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/181591315:18
openstackLaunchpad bug 1815913 in neutron "DVR can not work with multiple routers on single network." [High,New] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq)15:18
mlavalleI see that slaweq is already assigned to it15:18
mlavalleany comments?15:18
slaweqyes, I'm working on it15:19
slaweqI was finally able to reproduce issue on my dev env too15:19
slaweqand I pushed patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/636953/15:20
slaweqI'm still testing if that will be enough to close this bug15:20
slaweqI will later link this patch to this bug15:20
mlavalleThanks15:22
mlavalleNext one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/179249315:22
openstackLaunchpad bug 1792493 in neutron "DVR and floating IPs broken in latest 7.0.0.0rc1?" [High,Triaged]15:22
mlavalleThis one got some attention from Swami a few months ago, but it has been without attention for some time15:23
mlavalleis there a volunteer who could take a look at it and see what we need to do about it?15:23
mlavalleit might be that we just need to close it, No activity since September15:24
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liuyulongI will take a look.15:24
haleybit's hard to tell if a neutron bug as he mentions ifcfg files15:25
mlavallethanks liuyulong15:25
mlavalleNext one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/178943415:26
openstackLaunchpad bug 1789434 in neutron "neutron_tempest_plugin.scenario.test_migration.NetworkMigrationFromHA failing 100% times" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Manjeet Singh Bhatia (manjeet-s-bhatia)15:26
liuyulong'bridge configuration' looks like the problem, https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1792493/comments/1415:26
openstackLaunchpad bug 1792493 in neutron "DVR and floating IPs broken in latest 7.0.0.0rc1?" [High,Triaged]15:26
liuyulongPlease go on.15:26
mlavalleThis one was taken over by manjeets some time ago15:26
mlavallebut hasn't had any progress in quite some time15:27
mlavallelooking at it again, it might be that it really is a manifestation of the another bug I've been working on15:27
slaweqmlavalle: yes, it's possible :)15:28
slaweqmlavalle: but if not, I can take a look at it maybe next week15:28
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mlavalleI think that the best approach is to see what happens with https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/179587015:29
openstackLaunchpad bug 1795870 in neutron "Trunk scenario test test_trunk_subport_lifecycle fails from time to time" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel)15:29
mlavalleit is probably the best use of everybody's bandwidth15:30
mlavalledon't you think slaweq?15:30
slaweqmlavalle: exactly :)15:30
mlavallefor ^^^^ I proposed this fix: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/636710/15:31
mlavalleI will roll out another patch later today15:31
mlavallewith your feedback, slaweq and haleyb15:31
slaweqok, thx15:31
haleybthanks mlavalle15:32
mlavalleThe last one I have for today is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/177445915:33
openstackLaunchpad bug 1774459 in neutron "Update permanent ARP entries for allowed_address_pair IPs in DVR Routers" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan)15:33
mlavallewe had a session about it in the Denver PTG15:33
mlavallein September15:33
mlavallewe agreed on a general technical approach to fix it15:34
mlavalleBut I haven't seen any activity on it since early January15:34
mlavalleso I'm going to ping Swami and see if he still plans to work on it15:35
mlavalleI'll report my findings next week15:35
mlavalleany other bugs we should discuss today?15:35
xubozhang?15:35
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mlavalleok,, let's move on then15:36
mlavalle#topic Openflow based DVR15:37
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mlavalleI saw xubozhang in the room15:37
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mlavallebut he droped off15:38
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mlavallehi xubozhang15:38
mlavalledo you have any updates or questions regarding openflow based DVR?15:39
xubozhanghi15:39
xubozhangi am wondering does anyone have reviewed our patch again? i know it's being a while15:40
mlavallexubozhang: we responded to Igor's message to the mailing list15:41
xubozhangok15:41
xubozhangthanks15:41
mlavallewith guidance on how to move forward15:41
mlavallethat was about one week and a half ago15:41
mlavalleHas the feedback in those responses been incorporated into the patches?15:41
xubozhangi am still working on writing unit test15:42
mlavalleif yes, I'll go review the patches15:42
xubozhangi will check with him15:42
mlavallexubozhang: ok, thanks. Please feel free to ping me any day when you know the status of that15:42
xubozhangsure thanks15:42
mlavallewe would like to merge it this cycle15:43
xubozhangi hope so too15:43
mlavalle:-)15:43
mlavalleok, moving on15:43
xubozhangdo you need the unit test be comprehensive?15:43
mlavalle#topic On demand agenda15:43
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mlavalleanything else we should discuss today?15:43
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mlavalleok, thanks for attending15:45
mlavalle#endmeeting15:45
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liuyulongThanks mlavalle for hosting the meeting. : )15:46
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rkukuratbachman: hi18:00
tbachmanrkukura: hi!18:00
tbachmanrkukura: don’t see annakk18:00
tbachmanor SridarK yet18:00
tbachmanwe’ll give them 5-10 mins18:00
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SridarK_tbachman: hi18:04
rkukurahi SridarK18:04
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SridarK_sorry got bounced out18:04
tbachmanheh18:04
SridarK_rkukura: hi18:04
tbachmanwill give annakk a few more mins18:05
tbachmanrkukura: SridarK_: let me know if you have something to cover18:05
tbachmanif so, I’ll start the meeting, even if annakk can’t make it18:05
tbachmanif not, maybe we can skip it18:05
SridarK_tbachman: i have nothing specific18:05
rkukuratbachman: I don’t have anything new, just the usual cleanup stuff18:05
tbachmank18:06
tbachmanI think I owe an email to the ML about deprecating the old NFP stuff18:06
SridarK_I am continuing to characterize the delete subnet workflow and retries on removing it from the port18:06
tbachmanack18:07
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tbachmanwould be good to understand just how that rally test works :(18:07
SridarK_tbachman: yes indeed18:07
SridarK_if i can unravel the mystery around rally cleanup18:07
SridarK_:-(18:07
tbachmanheh18:07
tbachmanit’s a pretty tricky bit18:08
tbachmantbh, I haven’t poked around that code enough18:08
tbachmanjust read it enough to get an idea of what some tests do18:08
tbachmanrkukura: SridarK_: if I don’t see annakk by 10 after, I’ll call it18:09
tbachmanunless you guys feel otherwise18:09
rkukurafine with me18:09
SridarK_ok18:09
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rkukuralunch time18:09
tbachmanheh18:09
SridarK_:-)18:09
tbachmanokay18:10
tbachmanrkukura: SridarK_: I’m dropping18:10
tbachmanthanks for checking in!18:10
tbachmanrkukura: SridarK_: bye!18:10
rkukurabye18:10
SridarK_bye all18:10
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