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| witek | #startmeeting monasca | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 19 15:00:43 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is witek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'monasca' | 15:00 |
| witek | hello everyone! | 15:01 |
| srwilkers | o/ | 15:01 |
| dougsz_ | hey all | 15:01 |
| koji_n | hi | 15:01 |
| chaconpiza | o/ | 15:01 |
| witek | hi srwilkers, nice to see you | 15:01 |
| srwilkers | witek: you as well! | 15:01 |
| witek | the agenda as usual here: | 15:01 |
| witek | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-team-meeting-agenda | 15:01 |
| joadavis | hi | 15:01 |
| witek | quite full today | 15:01 |
| witek | let's move on | 15:02 |
| witek | #topic fluentd plugin | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "fluentd plugin (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:02 | |
| dougsz_ | So not thing too exciting here. Development stopped on the plugin. | 15:02 |
| dougsz_ | We forked it, added a couple of fixes. | 15:02 |
| dougsz_ | And I recently moved it from stackhpc github to monasca github. | 15:03 |
| witek | great, thanks for that | 15:03 |
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| witek | srwilkers: will you be interested in collecting logs with Monasca as well? | 15:04 |
| witek | fluentd plugin could be interesting in that case | 15:04 |
| srwilkers | witek: for logs for the openstack services, we're using the oslo-log fluentd handler/formatter at the moment | 15:04 |
| witek | ok | 15:05 |
| srwilkers | then the standard processing/output to elasticsearch | 15:05 |
| srwilkers | i havent looked much into what monasca provides from a logging standpoint admittedly | 15:05 |
| witek | basically, adding multitenancy to the standard ELK | 15:06 |
| witek | and basic alerting | 15:06 |
| srwilkers | oh, interesting. i'll need to do some reading/poking before next week then | 15:06 |
| witek | dougsz_: thanks for moving the repo | 15:07 |
| dougsz_ | If you want a sample fluentd output config file for the above you can ping me on IRC, it's very easy. | 15:07 |
| dougsz_ | np | 15:07 |
| dougsz_ | That's it from me on this topic - i see we have lots today! | 15:07 |
| witek | #topic ptg summary | 15:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "ptg summary (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:08 | |
| witek | I have put together most important points we talked about last week | 15:08 |
| witek | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/MonascaSteinPTG | 15:08 |
| witek | it's linked from the main wiki page | 15:08 |
| witek | please add or update if something missing or incorrect | 15:09 |
| witek | I also wanted to give a short update on two topics we talked about in different sessions | 15:09 |
| witek | OpenStack Helm being the first one | 15:09 |
| joadavis | nice | 15:09 |
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| witek | srwilkers: could you shortly say, what OSH does and why? | 15:10 |
| witek | busy or writing :) | 15:11 |
| srwilkers | the tl;dr is openstack-helm seeks to provide a set of curated helm charts to deploy openstack services, along with supporting infra services, on top of kubernetes. the why is to take advantage of what kubernetes offers, in addition to making the charts flexible in the configuration sense | 15:12 |
| srwilkers | ie: exposing the right values to override to customize your deployment to your needs | 15:12 |
| witek | thanks, it's mainly driven by AT&T, right? | 15:13 |
| dougsz_ | Will it use Kolla images or will you add support for a different format? | 15:13 |
| srwilkers | for now -- we're always looking for new contributors though :) | 15:13 |
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| srwilkers | dougsz_: we use loci as the default for the openstack services, but we support kolla images as well | 15:14 |
| dougsz_ | Good to know | 15:14 |
| witek | we don't have LOCI images as of now | 15:14 |
| witek | dougsz_ has worked on adding images in Kolla | 15:15 |
| srwilkers | awesome :) | 15:15 |
| dougsz_ | I think the kolla images are basically complete and merged upstream | 15:15 |
| dougsz_ | We don't have plans for LOCI (only a small shop) | 15:15 |
| witek | we also have an ongoing effort of adding lightweight images in monasca repos | 15:15 |
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| witek | so, in the OSH we talked about adding Monasca to OSH | 15:16 |
| witek | srwilkers: wants to lead the PoC | 15:16 |
| witek | please let us know, if you need any help | 15:17 |
| dougsz_ | awesome! | 15:17 |
| srwilkers | witek: i certainly will. i started on the plane home from denver :) | 15:17 |
| witek | wow | 15:17 |
| srwilkers | hoping to have something to show soon | 15:17 |
| witek | how long was the flight? :) | 15:18 |
| srwilkers | only two hours -- saint louis isn't far from denver, thankfully | 15:18 |
| dougsz_ | So the spec talks about Fluent+Elastic+Kibana and Prometheus | 15:18 |
| dougsz_ | What's inspired deploying Monasca? | 15:19 |
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| joadavis | I think having a few of us Monasca people show up in the OSH sessions at PTG. :) | 15:20 |
| srwilkers | from the beginning, we wanted to provide the ability to use whatever supporting infrastructure an operator may want to use. monasca would be the first alternative we'd add to show we've accomplished that | 15:20 |
| srwilkers | i've also been working to add the elasticbeats as well, which works successfully | 15:20 |
| srwilkers | but would like to get the monasca work done first :) | 15:20 |
| joadavis | Its pretty cool that OSH can be flexible | 15:21 |
| dougsz_ | yeah, definitely. Both approaches have their advantages. | 15:21 |
| witek | thanks, also timothyb89 could a good contact person, he worked on charts in monasca-helm repo | 15:22 |
| witek | I have given him heads-up already | 15:22 |
| srwilkers | good to know -- i'll keep his nick handy in case i have any questions | 15:22 |
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| witek | I have also talked with ricolin (Heat PTL) about autoscaling with Heat and Monasca | 15:23 |
| witek | the integration has been implemented some time ago already | 15:24 |
| witek | but documentation is missing completely | 15:24 |
| witek | we though it would be great if we could review the existing implementation | 15:24 |
| witek | and publish the use case in self-healing SIG | 15:24 |
| witek | similarly as it happens here: | 15:25 |
| witek | https://review.openstack.org/602505 | 15:25 |
| witek | I think it can improve the visibility of the project | 15:25 |
| witek | also, some cross-project testing could be useful | 15:26 |
| witek | I have added these two topics to the priority game spreadsheet | 15:26 |
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| witek | as well as the `monasca-thresh` leftover from the last cycle | 15:27 |
| witek | dougsz_, chaconpiza: you may want to reconsider your votes to that respect | 15:27 |
| witek | are there any other topics which we should add to the list? | 15:28 |
| dougsz_ | thanks witek - I noticed those. | 15:29 |
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| chaconpiza | ok, I'll spread a little bit the vote | 15:30 |
| witek | folks, please put your money on the topics until end of week | 15:30 |
| dougsz_ | Support latest InfluxDB? | 15:30 |
| witek | Matthias from our team work on 1.6 already | 15:31 |
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| dougsz_ | awesome! | 15:31 |
| witek | ok, let's move on | 15:32 |
| witek | #topic value_meta in alarms | 15:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "value_meta in alarms (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:32 | |
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| dougsz_ | So Charana, our intern has produced some patches for this | 15:33 |
| dougsz_ | The idea being that you could set an alarm for log error messages, and get notifications with snippets of the error message, for example. | 15:33 |
| dougsz_ | There were a couple of issues. | 15:33 |
| Charana | hi | 15:34 |
| witek | hi Charana, nice meeting you | 15:34 |
| dougsz_ | Firstly, a change to monasca-common has been made, and monasca-thresh gates on tempest which needs the change in common to pass. | 15:34 |
| dougsz_ | So our focus is to get the patch to monasca-common merged first. | 15:35 |
| Charana | the common change supports a value_meta string field that thresh will set when submitting alarms to kafka | 15:35 |
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| witek | I recall we have talked about it in Dublin | 15:36 |
| dougsz_ | That's correct | 15:36 |
| Charana | its a minor change, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/603099/ | 15:36 |
| witek | did you think about adding the value to the message as well? | 15:36 |
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| Charana | theres a patch for monasca-notification to include this in the slack notification https://review.openstack.org/#/c/603127/ | 15:37 |
| dougsz_ | We could. For our use case, the value is always 1. | 15:37 |
| dougsz_ | (we use log-metrics to generate metrics from specific logs) | 15:37 |
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| witek | I think it would make sense to have it consistent and include value as well | 15:38 |
| witek | now it's only mentioned in the reason string | 15:38 |
| witek | which is not nice for making custom notification format | 15:39 |
| witek | another question, how are compound alarms handled? | 15:39 |
| Charana | yeah i can include that in the notification from the raw alarm | 15:39 |
| dougsz_ | deferred to Charana | 15:40 |
| Charana | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/603127/4/tests/test_alarm_processor.py | 15:41 |
| dougsz_ | You planned to concatenate value meta from the sub-expressions? | 15:41 |
| Charana | if you look at line 149, it would look something like that | 15:41 |
| Charana | you could move whatever you felt was necessary from that obj in the alarm to the notification | 15:42 |
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| witek | why do you inclue `state` and `subexpression` in value_meta? | 15:43 |
| witek | `value_meta_obj` I mean | 15:44 |
| dougsz_ | Some good questions witek | 15:45 |
| dougsz_ | Shall we continue the discussion on the review? | 15:45 |
| Charana | that object is there in the alarm and it helps you determine the state and value_meta of the individual subAlarms when the Alarm was triggered | 15:45 |
| witek | yeah, I think it's a good idea to continue the discussion in review | 15:46 |
| dougsz_ | great thanks witek | 15:46 |
| witek | btw. just before the meeting I created Monasca Board for Stein release | 15:46 |
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| witek | https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/board/111 | 15:46 |
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| witek | started with adding your story there | 15:47 |
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| dougsz_ | ok, thanks, I'll update it | 15:47 |
| Charana | cheers | 15:48 |
| witek | #topic Forum in Berlin | 15:48 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Forum in Berlin (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:48 | |
| witek | I'd like to jump to that one | 15:48 |
| witek | next week is the deadline for proposing Forum sessions | 15:48 |
| witek | September 26 | 15:49 |
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| witek | do we have any topics we would like to discuss with users or operators? | 15:49 |
| witek | we could also reserve space for our team discussion | 15:50 |
| dougsz_ | I'm interested in attending | 15:50 |
| dougsz_ | Operation at scale is of great interest to us | 15:51 |
| dougsz_ | I'm not sure what sort of deployments people are managing, but it would be interesting to learn more from people operating multi-node cluster and the optimisations that they've made | 15:52 |
| dougsz_ | To feed back into the Kolla multi-node deployment | 15:52 |
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| joadavis | I'm trying to sort my thoughts into usable questions. What features do users feel are missing? How can we show that the resource use of Monasca is worth the cost? | 15:53 |
| joadavis | What do you do with the data (and what do you wish you could do, like billing)? | 15:53 |
| witek | I though about asking for feedback on events usage | 15:54 |
| joadavis | +1 | 15:54 |
| witek | do we want to make again a general session with these few questions? | 15:55 |
| dougsz_ | sounds good to me | 15:56 |
| witek | anyone volunteering for moderation? | 15:56 |
| witek | I'll set up an etherpad and post a link to the mailing list | 15:56 |
| joadavis | I don't have plans to be there in person. :( | 15:57 |
| witek | we can collect ideas there | 15:57 |
| witek | and decide what to do | 15:57 |
| dougsz_ | sounds good | 15:57 |
| witek | #topic release liaison | 15:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "release liaison (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:58 | |
| witek | I'm looking for one :) | 15:58 |
| witek | if someone would like to do that job, please ping me | 15:58 |
| witek | here are the responsibilities: | 15:58 |
| witek | https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/release-management.html#release-liaisons | 15:58 |
| witek | #topic Pre Upgrade checks | 15:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Pre Upgrade checks (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:59 | |
| witek | https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2003657 | 15:59 |
| witek | https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2003657 | 15:59 |
| witek | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/603465/ | 15:59 |
| witek | I think they started implementing oslo middleware for this | 16:00 |
| witek | https://github.com/cybertron/oslo.upgradecheck | 16:00 |
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| witek | it might be worth waiting a bit and checking if we can use it | 16:00 |
| witek | I have to close now | 16:00 |
| joadavis | I posted a simple commit that would do the minimum until oslos sorts out | 16:00 |
| dougsz_ | ok, thanks all | 16:00 |
| joadavis | Thanks all! | 16:00 |
| witek | let's move the leftovers to the next week's meeting | 16:01 |
| witek | thanks | 16:01 |
| witek | bye | 16:01 |
| witek | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 19 16:01:10 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2018/monasca.2018-09-19-15.00.html | 16:01 |
| koji_n | thanks | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2018/monasca.2018-09-19-15.00.txt | 16:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2018/monasca.2018-09-19-15.00.log.html | 16:01 |
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| kgarloff | o InterOp meeting? | 16:08 |
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| kgarloff | Oh, wrong week for InterOp Meeting. | 16:12 |
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