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| tellesnobrega | #startmeeting sahara | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 2 14:00:28 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tellesnobrega. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sahara' | 14:00 |
| tellesnobrega | show off hands | 14:01 |
| tellesnobrega | o/ | 14:01 |
| jeremyfreudberg | o/ | 14:01 |
| tellesnobrega | tosky? | 14:02 |
| jeremyfreudberg | .. | 14:04 |
| tellesnobrega | #topic News/Updates | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "News/Updates (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:04 | |
| tosky | sorry | 14:04 |
| tosky | here | 14:04 |
| tellesnobrega | Sahara R3 was release last week as well as saharaclient 2.0 | 14:05 |
| jeremyfreudberg | welcome tosky | 14:05 |
| tellesnobrega | yesterday I went through storyboard bugs, we might need to go through it during ptg and try to prioritize the bugs | 14:06 |
| tellesnobrega | so we can try to bring those numbers down | 14:06 |
| jeremyfreudberg | i'll be testing s3 on cdh soon, if there is a bug found i will try to get it included in rocky, same idea for apiv2 bugs | 14:07 |
| jeremyfreudberg | beyond that i have some doc to write | 14:07 |
| tosky | you can create a board or worklist for that | 14:07 |
| tellesnobrega | tosky, good idea | 14:07 |
| jeremyfreudberg | oh, and not sure if tellesnobrega saw my message the other day, but my tsp request was approved | 14:08 |
| jeremyfreudberg | for this ptg | 14:08 |
| tellesnobrega | jeremyfreudberg, did not see it. That is awesome | 14:08 |
| jeremyfreudberg | tosky: you won't be there, right? | 14:09 |
| tellesnobrega | I think he will make it, not sure just yet | 14:10 |
| tosky | I'm probably going to be there | 14:10 |
| jeremyfreudberg | oh, nice, keep us posted | 14:10 |
| tellesnobrega | more updates? | 14:10 |
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| tellesnobrega | lets move on | 14:12 |
| tellesnobrega | #topic sahara-extra | 14:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "sahara-extra (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:12 | |
| tellesnobrega | SotK, about sahara-extra I talked with doug and sean yesterday and the idea is to backport everything to stable/rocky | 14:12 |
| tellesnobrega | I can write the patches | 14:13 |
| tellesnobrega | I plan to do it today | 14:13 |
| tellesnobrega | the alternative was to drop stable/rocky branch and the work was going to be too much and involve too many people, since there are only 5 patches, we can backport easily | 14:13 |
| jeremyfreudberg | backporting is fine | 14:14 |
| jeremyfreudberg | i guess the bigger question is, should we adjust the release cadence of sahara-extra from cycle-with-whatever (i'm not looking at the file right now) to independent | 14:14 |
| jeremyfreudberg | i think there is value in releases/tags for sahara-extra, but they don't seem to relate to the main release cycle | 14:15 |
| tellesnobrega | I have to check, but the way it is right is ok, it was a mistake by the script and myself to merge the patch to create stable/rocky | 14:15 |
| tellesnobrega | I shouldn't have created that | 14:15 |
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| jeremyfreudberg | tosky: thoughts? | 14:16 |
| tosky | but which patch exactly created stable/rocky? | 14:17 |
| tosky | that's the part where I didn't get - for some older M release? | 14:17 |
| tellesnobrega | tosky, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/586182/ | 14:17 |
| tosky | because I don't remember recent 5 patches, so it must have happened some time ago | 14:17 |
| tellesnobrega | it created based on the last release | 14:17 |
| tellesnobrega | basically was a timing issue, it created as a library | 14:18 |
| tellesnobrega | so it picked up stuff from last release | 14:18 |
| jeremyfreudberg | looks more like sean did it by accident: https://github.com/openstack/releases/commits/master/deliverables/rocky/sahara-extra.yaml | 14:18 |
| jeremyfreudberg | it went from library->other, but sean missed that | 14:18 |
| tellesnobrega | they have a script that does that, and it failed to detect the type | 14:18 |
| tellesnobrega | exactly | 14:18 |
| tellesnobrega | anything else on this? | 14:21 |
| jeremyfreudberg | i think we are all on the same page on this, with at least a short term plan | 14:21 |
| tellesnobrega | yes | 14:21 |
| tellesnobrega | lets move on | 14:21 |
| tellesnobrega | #topic Stein PTG | 14:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stein PTG (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:21 | |
| tellesnobrega | I will start an etherpad, probably next week, so we can start planning the PTG discussions | 14:22 |
| tellesnobrega | keep an eye for it and start thinking on topics for the week | 14:22 |
| jeremyfreudberg | btw, i will most likely only be at ptg on sahara days, leaving on wednesday | 14:23 |
| jeremyfreudberg | pending confirmation from the Foundation's travel agent | 14:24 |
| tellesnobrega | sounds good, I will be the whole week, if you need me to attend something I can do it | 14:24 |
| jeremyfreudberg | tellesnobrega: thanks! | 14:25 |
| jeremyfreudberg | i'll let you know | 14:25 |
| tellesnobrega | cool | 14:25 |
| tellesnobrega | I don't have anything specific to discuss today | 14:26 |
| tellesnobrega | do you have anything else? | 14:26 |
| jeremyfreudberg | well, we still have the hardware for CI. we still don't really know how make sahara-ci-config work, and i've had no time | 14:26 |
| jeremyfreudberg | but, just a reminder that it exists | 14:27 |
| tellesnobrega | that might be better for PTG | 14:27 |
| tellesnobrega | face | 14:27 |
| jeremyfreudberg | yes, the actually work we can save till then | 14:27 |
| jeremyfreudberg | or even if not the work, the discussion | 14:27 |
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| tellesnobrega | face to face we might come up with a quicker solution | 14:27 |
| jeremyfreudberg | just wanted to drop the reminder now | 14:27 |
| tellesnobrega | thanks | 14:27 |
| jeremyfreudberg | that's it from me | 14:28 |
| jeremyfreudberg | tosky: anything from you? | 14:28 |
| tosky | not for now about the PTG | 14:30 |
| tellesnobrega | tosky, any other topic? | 14:30 |
| tosky | S3 vs S3a, but I don't have resources to try to fix it | 14:31 |
| tosky | it impacts the tests I'm writing | 14:32 |
| tellesnobrega | ok | 14:32 |
| tellesnobrega | let me change topics | 14:32 |
| jeremyfreudberg | tosky: assume that the current s3 types will stay the same. if there's a change like that it will be accompanied by a whole new interface | 14:32 |
| tellesnobrega | #topic S3 vs S3a | 14:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "S3 vs S3a (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:32 | |
| tosky | I don't think this change would require a new interface | 14:34 |
| jeremyfreudberg | tosky, it wouldn't require a new interface, no | 14:35 |
| tosky | it's just allowing the users to use s3:/ URI also for data sources | 14:35 |
| tosky | (or the job binaries, I always mix them) | 14:35 |
| jeremyfreudberg | it's the DS which uses s3a now | 14:35 |
| jeremyfreudberg | tosky: is your only complaint about the abstraction the s3 vs s3a, or do you have other ideas? | 14:38 |
| tosky | only the abstraction | 14:38 |
| jeremyfreudberg | you mean, only the url format | 14:39 |
| jeremyfreudberg | nothing else about the abstraction | 14:39 |
| tosky | yes, exactly | 14:40 |
| jeremyfreudberg | so, should it just allow either protocol? (and munge s3->s3a as needed?) | 14:42 |
| tellesnobrega | I think we should use just one s3 | 14:42 |
| jeremyfreudberg | well, i guess you also have your complaint about the http/https for the endpoint | 14:42 |
| tellesnobrega | and munge s3->s3a where needed | 14:42 |
| tosky | that's maybe more tricky, but s3/s3a is immediately visible | 14:44 |
| jeremyfreudberg | the http/https thing is actually more bothersome to me | 14:44 |
| jeremyfreudberg | but, to each his own | 14:45 |
| jeremyfreudberg | the http/https thing is already more solidified though, because of the --s3-ssl flag in OSC, so that's harder to backpedal | 14:46 |
| jeremyfreudberg | the s3->s3a we could really just sneak in now with nobody noticing (if we supported both formats) | 14:47 |
| tosky | yes, that's what I thought as well | 14:49 |
| tellesnobrega | I think it works | 14:49 |
| jeremyfreudberg | okay, i think i can write a patch that will allow either s3 or s3a to go in | 14:51 |
| jeremyfreudberg | and change the doc, though, to say that s3 is the 'real' way | 14:51 |
| jeremyfreudberg | and i think we can sneak that into rocky | 14:51 |
| tosky | thanks | 14:51 |
| jeremyfreudberg | rc1 is a week from today, right? | 14:52 |
| tosky | yes | 14:52 |
| jeremyfreudberg | excellent | 14:52 |
| tellesnobrega | yes | 14:52 |
| tellesnobrega | we have time | 14:52 |
| jeremyfreudberg | anything else? | 14:53 |
| tellesnobrega | thanks tosky for bringing it up and jeremyfreudberg for the work | 14:53 |
| tellesnobrega | not for me | 14:53 |
| jeremyfreudberg | np | 14:53 |
| kaiokmo | tellesnobrega: can I include some quick info/update to the meeting? it's OSA related | 14:53 |
| jeremyfreudberg | kaiokmo, go ahead | 14:53 |
| tellesnobrega | yes please | 14:54 |
| kaiokmo | ok. so, as long as rocky release is near, and ubuntu bionic is now supported on openstack, the osa team is working to add bionic support on all roles, including sahara | 14:55 |
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| kaiokmo | the work seems pretty consistent, and looks like sahara support for bionic is almost done, along with existing xenial, centos7 and opensuse ones | 14:56 |
| tosky | thanks for that, I've seen few reviews on openstack-ansible-os_sahara | 14:56 |
| tellesnobrega | kaiokmo, awesome, keep us posted and ping us if needed | 14:57 |
| kaiokmo | tellesnobrega: no problem. will do | 14:57 |
| tosky | kaiokmo: is there any plan to switch the Bionic jobs to python 3, or are they going to stay python 2 for now? | 14:58 |
| kaiokmo | I don't know about that, but I've seen some patches related to python3 | 14:59 |
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| mlavalle | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 15:00 |
| openstack | mlavalle: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. Use #endmeeting first. | 15:00 |
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| tosky | tellesnobrega: I think you can close now | 15:00 |
| kaiokmo | on xenial, at least, there's on-going work on python3. | 15:00 |
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| tellesnobrega | will do | 15:00 |
| tosky | we are out of time and people are pushing | 15:00 |
| kaiokmo | I can update you guys later on sahara channel | 15:00 |
| tellesnobrega | #endmeeting | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 2 15:01:00 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:01 |
| mlavalle | sorry, didn't mean to push you guys | 15:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2018/sahara.2018-08-02-14.00.html | 15:01 |
| tellesnobrega | sorry mlavalle | 15:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2018/sahara.2018-08-02-14.00.txt | 15:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2018/sahara.2018-08-02-14.00.log.html | 15:01 |
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| tellesnobrega | thanks everyone | 15:01 |
| mlavalle | tellesnobrega: I apologize. I didn't mean to be pushy | 15:01 |
| tellesnobrega | no worries ;) | 15:01 |
| mlavalle | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 2 15:01:30 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3' | 15:01 |
| haleyb | hi | 15:01 |
| manjeets | hello | 15:01 |
| mlavalle | hey, how are you guys? | 15:01 |
| haleyb | good, too busy, you? | 15:02 |
| mlavalle | about the same ;-) | 15:03 |
| manjeets | doing ok | 15:03 |
| mlavalle | #topic Announcements | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:03 | |
| mlavalle | We are in the middle of wrapping up our RC-1 | 15:04 |
| mlavalle | I want to thank haleyb, slaweq, manjeets, njohnston for the non stopping reviewing over the past few days | 15:05 |
| mlavalle | Thanks to you we are in excellent shape | 15:05 |
| mlavalle | we have merged almost everything we wanted to merge in the neutron repo | 15:05 |
| manjeets | :) | 15:05 |
| mlavalle | The only exception are: | 15:05 |
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| mlavalle | 1) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/588079 | 15:06 |
| manjeets | that can go as well, just a minor update needed ? | 15:06 |
| mlavalle | This is a release note for port forwardings, that I realized yesterday that we hand't included | 15:06 |
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| mlavalle | I see manjeets comment and I'll address it when we finish the meeting. I have a question. Is there a specific section for 'config' in the reno format? | 15:07 |
| manjeets | mlavalle, other: can be used | 15:07 |
| mlavalle | manjeets: ok, I'll use that | 15:08 |
| haleyb | and i didn't see any bugs approved for rc1 either, we should probably look through the list and see if anything is important | 15:08 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: there is no such section: https://docs.openstack.org/reno/2.1.2/usage.html#editing-a-release-note | 15:08 |
| mlavalle | slaweq: thanks. I'll use other as suggested by manjeets | 15:09 |
| mlavalle | haleyb: let's do that today and tomorrow | 15:09 |
| mlavalle | good idea | 15:09 |
| mlavalle | 2) The only other part missing are some patches for neutron-fwaas. I asked them today to attend tomorrow the drivers meeting to check at that point how they are doing with those patches | 15:10 |
| mlavalle | I rebased and +2ed yesterday the 2 patches they needed on the Neutron side and slaweq caught and alnded them overnight | 15:12 |
| mlavalle | so we have done everything out of their control for them to land the feature in fwaas | 15:12 |
| mlavalle | now it's up to them | 15:12 |
| mlavalle | it's lookin tight, though, based on what ws mentioned earlier today in the fwaas weekly meeting | 15:13 |
| mlavalle | in other news, remember the that the PTG will take place on September 10 - 14 in Denver | 15:14 |
| mlavalle | I am staying at the Renaissance hotel | 15:14 |
| mlavalle | arriving on Sunday and staying until Saturday | 15:14 |
| mlavalle | Looking forward to see you all there | 15:15 |
| mlavalle | I will start the etherpad today | 15:15 |
| slaweq | I have the same plan like You :) | 15:15 |
| mlavalle | so we can brainstorm ideas to be discussed there | 15:15 |
| mlavalle | slaweq: Great! | 15:15 |
| haleyb | i'm sunday to friday | 15:15 |
| manjeets | sunday to friday (Renaissance hotel) | 15:15 |
| mlavalle | Now a bit of bad news.... | 15:16 |
| mlavalle | You guys are stuck with me for another cycle as the Neutron PTL | 15:16 |
| davidsha_ | :P | 15:16 |
| manjeets | lol | 15:16 |
| slaweq | LOL | 15:16 |
| mlavalle | LOL | 15:17 |
| davidsha_ | Congratz! | 15:17 |
| mlavalle | Thanks! | 15:17 |
| slaweq | I was afraid that You will say that You are stepping down :) | 15:17 |
| slaweq | Congratz mlavalle! | 15:17 |
| mlavalle | I love this team, so it's an honor | 15:17 |
| mlavalle | as I said in my nomination | 15:18 |
| manjeets | MAGA/MANA ? lol mlavalle for 2018 | 15:18 |
| mlavalle | the highest in my careet | 15:18 |
| mlavalle | career | 15:18 |
| mlavalle | ok, let's move on.... | 15:18 |
| mlavalle | #topic Bugs | 15:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:18 | |
| mlavalle | since we have slaweq's attention, I want to start with https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1766701 | 15:19 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1766701 in neutron "Trunk Tests are failing often in dvr-multinode scenario job" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel) | 15:19 |
| mlavalle | I've been using the searches that I posted earlier in the bug for kibana | 15:20 |
| mlavalle | and I don't get any hist over the past 7 days | 15:20 |
| mlavalle | slaweq: have you seen cases of those failures lately in you investigations in gerrit? | 15:20 |
| slaweq | no | 15:21 |
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| slaweq | but it's probably like that because those tests are marked as unstable: https://github.com/openstack/neutron-tempest-plugin/blob/master/neutron_tempest_plugin/scenario/test_trunk.py#L144 | 15:21 |
| slaweq | so they will be skipped in case of failure | 15:21 |
| mlavalle | so I will create a DNM patch removing the the skip on those test and recheck it constantly | 15:23 |
| mlavalle | makes sense? | 15:23 |
| slaweq | yep | 15:23 |
| mlavalle | ok | 15:23 |
| mlavalle | thanks | 15:23 |
| slaweq | if You will now work on it, we can even merge such patch and remove unstable_tests() in master | 15:23 |
| slaweq | will be maybe easier to spot it | 15:23 |
| slaweq | and IIRC it was failing in jobs which are non-voting | 15:24 |
| mlavalle | right | 15:24 |
| mlavalle | ok, let's do that | 15:24 |
| mlavalle | I'll propose a patch later today | 15:24 |
| slaweq | ok | 15:24 |
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| mlavalle | moving on to https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1774459 | 15:25 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1774459 in neutron "Update permanent ARP entries for allowed_address_pair IPs in DVR Routers" [High,Confirmed] | 15:25 |
| mlavalle | haleyb: do you think this should be a subject to discuss in the PTG? | 15:25 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: yes, based on Swami's last comment it seems it needs some more thought | 15:26 |
| mlavalle | ok, I will add it to the etherpad later today, when I start it | 15:26 |
| mlavalle | haleyb: do you have handy the DVR bugs that yamamoto pointed out in his bugs report earlier this week? | 15:28 |
| * mlavalle looking for the message | 15:28 | |
| yamamoto | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1783470 https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1783654 | 15:29 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1783470 in neutron "get_subnet_for_dvr returns SNAT mac instead of gateway in subnet_info" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Arjun Baindur (abaindur) | 15:29 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1783654 in neutron "DVR process flow not installed on physical bridge for shared tenant network" [Undecided,New] | 15:29 |
| haleyb | think they were the new ones | 15:29 |
| mlavalle | yes they are | 15:29 |
| mlavalle | thanks yamamoto! | 15:29 |
| haleyb | ^^ i'm looking at that now, seems a bug, fix was proposed | 15:29 |
| haleyb | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/587234 | 15:30 |
| haleyb | i can see an optimization there as well that i'll do as a follow-on | 15:30 |
| mlavalle | wow, this is a first time contributor! | 15:30 |
| mlavalle | time to show how welcoming we are :-) | 15:30 |
| haleyb | i think he found a couple of these new bugs | 15:31 |
| mlavalle | ok, let's take a look at the bug itself and the proposed patch | 15:31 |
| mlavalle | at first glance, it will probably require some tests | 15:32 |
| haleyb | patch looks ok, just needs a test | 15:32 |
| haleyb | jynx :) | 15:32 |
| mlavalle | lol | 15:32 |
| mlavalle | the other bug is also from him | 15:33 |
| mlavalle | he hasn't proposed a fix yet | 15:33 |
| mlavalle | if haleyb doesn't have bandwidth, I can take a look | 15:33 |
| haleyb | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1783654 | 15:33 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1783654 in neutron "DVR process flow not installed on physical bridge for shared tenant network" [Undecided,New] | 15:33 |
| haleyb | doh, you already pasted that | 15:34 |
| mlavalle | yeah, I can take a look at it if you don't have bandwidth | 15:34 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: if you have bandwidth, else i'll look today/tomorrow | 15:35 |
| mlavalle | I'll start with it then and yell for help if I get to deep in c... water | 15:35 |
| mlavalle | haleyb: do you have any other bugs? | 15:36 |
| haleyb | i think there's 2 more new one | 15:36 |
| haleyb | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1783728 | 15:36 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1783728 in neutron "DVR: router interface creation failure (load testing)" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Oleg Bondarev (obondarev) | 15:36 |
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| haleyb | from oleg our old friend | 15:37 |
| haleyb | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/586059/ | 15:37 |
| mlavalle | wow, nice to see him again ;-) | 15:37 |
| haleyb | and i already +2'd that, i forgot to add you | 15:37 |
| haleyb | i guess if you're ok we have one for rc1 | 15:37 |
| mlavalle | I just added it to my pile | 15:37 |
| mlavalle | I'll take a look. at first glance seems ok for rc1 | 15:38 |
| haleyb | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1784837 was the other | 15:38 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1784837 in neutron "Test tempest.scenario.test_security_groups_basic_ops.TestSecurityGroupsBasicOps.test_in_tenant_traffic fails in neutron-tempest-dvr-ha-multinode-full job" [Medium,Confirmed] | 15:38 |
| haleyb | created by slaweq yesterday | 15:39 |
| mlavalle | I think we mentioned in the CI meeting that he was going to look at those failures | 15:40 |
| mlavalle | I'll try to take a look this week as part of my bugs deputy duties | 15:40 |
| slaweq | yep | 15:40 |
| slaweq | I found that this test failed few times recently so I reported it | 15:41 |
| slaweq | I don't have any other details about it | 15:41 |
| mlavalle | tahnks for the info slaweq | 15:41 |
| mlavalle | any other bugs we should discuss today? | 15:42 |
| mlavalle | ok, let's move on | 15:43 |
| mlavalle | #topic Openflow DVR | 15:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Openflow DVR (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:43 | |
| davidsha_ | Hey | 15:44 |
| mlavalle | we failed to merge this in Rocky | 15:44 |
| mlavalle | let's see if we can move it forward in Stein | 15:44 |
| davidsha_ | kk, We're too late to try for an exception for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/528336/ ? | 15:44 |
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| mlavalle | I think we are | 15:45 |
| davidsha_ | kk. | 15:45 |
| mlavalle | but let's start looking at merging all this as early as possible during Stein | 15:45 |
| davidsha_ | ack, code can't be merged until the week after the PTG correct? | 15:46 |
| mlavalle | is there any update fon your part davidsha_ ? | 15:46 |
| davidsha_ | I'm continuing to support Xubo on the work, but it's his feature. | 15:47 |
| mlavalle | ok | 15:47 |
| davidsha_ | Thanks | 15:48 |
| mlavalle | maybe you have answered this before, but other than configuring the normal parameters for DVR, is there anything else I need to know to deply this feature in a devstack? | 15:48 |
| mlavalle | davidsha_: ^^^^ | 15:48 |
| davidsha_ | Nope, it's just setting the agent_mode=dvr_bridge | 15:49 |
| mlavalle | ok, cool | 15:49 |
| mlavalle | moving on | 15:49 |
| mlavalle | #topic Open agenda | 15:49 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open agenda (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:49 | |
| mlavalle | I will be in China the week of August 13 - 17 | 15:50 |
| mlavalle | so I might not make it to this meeting | 15:50 |
| mlavalle | anything else? | 15:51 |
| davidsha_ | Nothing from me. | 15:51 |
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| mlavalle | ok guys, thanks for attending | 15:51 |
| davidsha_ | Thanks! | 15:51 |
| manjeets | I am visiting Uk for 2 weeks, but i'll try to attend meetings | 15:52 |
| mlavalle | manjeets: ack | 15:52 |
| mlavalle | #endmeeting | 15:52 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:52 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 2 15:52:16 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2018/neutron_l3.2018-08-02-15.01.html | 15:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2018/neutron_l3.2018-08-02-15.01.txt | 15:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2018/neutron_l3.2018-08-02-15.01.log.html | 15:52 |
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| elmiko | #startmeeting api sig | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 2 16:00:15 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is elmiko. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: api sig)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'api_sig' | 16:00 |
| elmiko | #chair cdent elmiko edleafe dtantsur | 16:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: cdent dtantsur edleafe elmiko | 16:00 |
| dtantsur | o/ | 16:00 |
| elmiko | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/API-SIG#Agenda | 16:00 |
| elmiko | hey folks =) | 16:00 |
| edleafe | geez, just one second before I hit return to start the meeting! | 16:00 |
| elmiko | hahaha | 16:00 |
| * edleafe needs to type faster | 16:00 | |
| elmiko | it is a sort of free-for-all at the start there | 16:01 |
| cdent | o/ | 16:01 |
| elmiko | and here i thought i was waiting before hitting return | 16:01 |
| elmiko | #topic previous meeting action items | 16:01 |
| edleafe | oh sure, rub it in. We all get it, you can type fast | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "previous meeting action items (Meeting topic: api sig)" | 16:01 | |
| elmiko | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_sig/2018/ | 16:02 |
| elmiko | in fairness, i just cut and pasted | 16:02 |
| dtantsur | heh | 16:02 |
| elmiko | there, now the secret is out | 16:02 |
| elmiko | so, how far did everyone make it through the draft? | 16:02 |
| edleafe | I did | 16:03 |
| * edleafe gives himself a cookie | 16:03 | |
| cdent | I read the whole thing | 16:03 |
| * elmiko gives edleafe another cookie | 16:03 | |
| * edleafe gives cdent a cookie too | 16:03 | |
| elmiko | i made it about 80% through | 16:03 |
| cdent | I even gossiped about the parts I didn't agree with with someone | 16:03 |
| * elmiko gives cdent another cookie | 16:03 | |
| elmiko | ooh, bonus points for cdent ! | 16:03 |
| cdent | ikr | 16:03 |
| edleafe | Which parts were those? | 16:03 |
| cdent | The part I didn't agree with was about not using specific 4xx responses | 16:04 |
| dtantsur | I disagree with a few things, this being one of them | 16:04 |
| * dtantsur tries to remember | 16:04 | |
| dtantsur | overall the thing did not read like something breaking | 16:05 |
| edleafe | I read it nearly a week ago, so the specifics are a bit fuzzy | 16:05 |
| elmiko | for the most part, i found it to be quite sane, my concern for us is going through it more closely to ensure that we haven't make guidance that contradicts (assuming we adopt it as a starting point for something) | 16:05 |
| dtantsur | a lot of "do not", but not much "instead do" | 16:05 |
| cdent | yeah, it wasn't particularly revolutionary, sort of gentle intro to REST with some pragmatism added in | 16:05 |
| elmiko | ++ | 16:05 |
| dtantsur | I think we had something contradicting, but I cannot remember | 16:06 |
| * dtantsur needs to re-read it | 16:06 | |
| edleafe | I felt that a large part of our HTTP guidelines could have been replaced with "hey, read this" | 16:06 |
| cdent | I wasn't really expecting it to provide much in the way of guidance for us, more sort of a lemon zesty refresher from the outside world, squeezed upon our staid interiors | 16:07 |
| elmiko | that would really help spread the load of our guidance edleafe , i'm ++ | 16:07 |
| cdent | it _would_ be good to link to it | 16:07 |
| edleafe | Somehow reading an IETF draft proposal doesn't conjure up "lemon zesty" in my mind | 16:07 |
| cdent | perhaps where we say "in the absence of direct guidance look at the rfcs" we could also say "and this good overview" | 16:07 |
| elmiko | i'm kinda curious about our next steps here, like should we review it at a more detailed level? publish a link? wait for it to finalize? | 16:08 |
| cdent | because in the end what we want is to be globally consistent | 16:08 |
| elmiko | agreed cdent | 16:08 |
| cdent | I can take that action | 16:08 |
| elmiko | sweet, thanks! | 16:08 |
| cdent | #action cdent add links to mnot http protocol thing | 16:08 |
| edleafe | I think our guidelines need to be more succinct than this draft | 16:08 |
| cdent | yes | 16:09 |
| edleafe | But yeah, linking to it would be excellent | 16:09 |
| cdent | there's much refactoring and refining it would be good to do | 16:09 |
| edleafe | that draft is almost as wordy as a mordred patch! | 16:09 |
| elmiko | haha | 16:09 |
| dtantsur | lol | 16:09 |
| * elmiko notes "almost" | 16:09 | |
| cdent | unpossible | 16:09 |
| mordred | nothing is that wordy | 16:09 |
| elmiko | =D | 16:10 |
| elmiko | any other comments on this topic? | 16:10 |
| cdent | The showrunners for the api-sig have mordred pop up over the backstage wall for a few million $$ every few episodes | 16:10 |
| cdent | and then he fades away | 16:10 |
| elmiko | LOL | 16:10 |
| dtantsur | :D | 16:10 |
| elmiko | so good | 16:10 |
| elmiko | #topic open mic and ongoing or new biz | 16:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open mic and ongoing or new biz (Meeting topic: api sig)" | 16:11 | |
| elmiko | i guess we didn't clean up the kruft here, but anything to discuss that is not the draft thingie? | 16:11 |
| cdent | anything we need/want to think about PTG-wise? | 16:11 |
| edleafe | I was thinking that the PTG would be a good place to discuss the draft thingy in more detail | 16:12 |
| elmiko | who is going to be there? | 16:12 |
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| edleafe | I'm hoping to go | 16:12 |
| edleafe | But IBM is still dragging their collective feet on travel approval | 16:12 |
| * mordred would like to actually meet with y'all this ptg instead of not doing that like I have done at the last few | 16:12 | |
| mordred | edleafe: I do not want to visualize IBM's collective feet | 16:12 |
| cdent | edleafe: you could almost drive up and camp in the halls | 16:12 |
| * elmiko chuckles | 16:13 | |
| edleafe | heh | 16:13 |
| cdent | i'll be there | 16:13 |
| edleafe | mordred: actually, just my grand-boss | 16:13 |
| elmiko | it's very unlikely that i will be there | 16:13 |
| elmiko | which makes me sad =( | 16:13 |
| edleafe | You say that every time | 16:13 |
| elmiko | haha, i know | 16:13 |
| edleafe | and then you show up | 16:13 |
| elmiko | but this time i feel the winds have changed | 16:13 |
| elmiko | road trip? | 16:14 |
| mordred | elmiko: I'd suggest that your employer is crazy if they think they should not send you to the PTG | 16:14 |
| mordred | but, you know, that may just be me | 16:14 |
| * cdent will fly to detroit, pick up elmiko, go visit cdent's niece in Louisville, then drive to denver? | 16:14 | |
| cdent | ROAD TRIP | 16:15 |
| elmiko | ROAD TRIP | 16:15 |
| cdent | sadly my flights are already booked :( | 16:15 |
| cdent | otherwise that's a great idea | 16:15 |
| elmiko | mordred: yeah, i just know some things are changing for our travel budget and i am loathe to push too hard | 16:15 |
| * dtantsur is not going | 16:15 | |
| edleafe | Sounds like National Lampoon's Vacation | 16:15 |
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| cdent | So it might be just me and mordred coming up with ways to enshrine and work around microversion simultaneously | 16:16 |
| elmiko | sounds like it | 16:16 |
| mordred | cdent: we can make so many decisios | 16:16 |
| mordred | decisions | 16:16 |
| cdent | \o/ | 16:16 |
| elmiko | and hopefully some sort of update on the graphql situation (assuming one of them is there) | 16:16 |
| mordred | or more probably decisios | 16:16 |
| edleafe | Yeah, still no reply from Gilles | 16:16 |
| elmiko | ack | 16:17 |
| dtantsur | I'll be looking forward to maybe see some of you in Berlin | 16:17 |
| cdent | I'll be there too. | 16:17 |
| cdent | After that things will start getting vague | 16:17 |
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| edleafe | It's funny - IBM tends to spend more on travel later in the year | 16:18 |
| edleafe | Probably be easier to get to Berlin than to Denver :) | 16:18 |
| elmiko | i thought about submitting a talk for berlin, but it was really stretching it | 16:18 |
| * dtantsur submitted two talks | 16:19 | |
| elmiko | nice! good luck =) | 16:19 |
| cdent | At some point I'll start an etherpad for the PTG | 16:19 |
| elmiko | thanks cdent | 16:19 |
| cdent | #action cdent start etherpad for api-sig at ptg | 16:19 |
| edleafe | cdent is action man this week | 16:20 |
| elmiko | yea seriously | 16:20 |
| cdent | dtantsur, mordred : did you make your microversion proposal? | 16:20 |
| elmiko | someone get that man a cookie | 16:20 |
| dtantsur | cdent: we did | 16:20 |
| dtantsur | and now I suspect *SOMEONE* did not vote for it ;) | 16:20 |
| mordred | we're gonna tell everyone about microversions | 16:20 |
| * cdent does not vote | 16:20 | |
| edleafe | what?? Everyone LOVES microversions!! | 16:21 |
| elmiko | "microversion, it's way of life maaaan" | 16:21 |
| cdent | it's too tedious going through all the proposals | 16:21 |
| cdent | espeically since I never go to presentations... | 16:21 |
| cdent | doesn't seem right | 16:21 |
| dtantsur | well, I watch the most interesting ones in recording | 16:21 |
| mordred | cdent: but BUZZWORD BUZZWORD is awesome because BUZZWORD BUZZWORD! | 16:21 |
| dtantsur | so I still feel the right to vote for good stuff | 16:21 |
| elmiko | hahaha | 16:21 |
| * cdent saves all his voting karma for destroying brexit | 16:22 | |
| elmiko | nice | 16:22 |
| elmiko | anything else for open biz? | 16:22 |
| * edleafe thinks cdent doesn't understand voting karma | 16:23 | |
| elmiko | #topic guidelines | 16:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "guidelines (Meeting topic: api sig)" | 16:23 | |
| elmiko | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/api-wg,n,z | 16:23 |
| elmiko | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/api-sig,n,z | 16:23 |
| cdent | no news is good news? | 16:23 |
| elmiko | i think there is nothing go on here this week for guidelines | 16:23 |
| elmiko | yea | 16:23 |
| elmiko | #topic bug review | 16:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bug review (Meeting topic: api sig)" | 16:24 | |
| elmiko | #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/project/1039 | 16:24 |
| elmiko | looks like the same story here as well | 16:24 |
| cdent | same again | 16:24 |
| elmiko | #topic weekly newsletter | 16:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "weekly newsletter (Meeting topic: api sig)" | 16:24 | |
| elmiko | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-sig-newsletter | 16:24 |
| edleafe | Before you do that... | 16:24 |
| elmiko | any volunteers? | 16:24 |
| edleafe | I just remembered | 16:24 |
| elmiko | should i switch back the topic? | 16:24 |
| edleafe | Infra will be doing the rename for the sig on Friday | 16:25 |
| elmiko | ooh, cool | 16:25 |
| dtantsur | \o/ | 16:25 |
| elmiko | do we need to update anything more than the agenda wiki? | 16:25 |
| edleafe | So we can toss all our API-WG business cards | 16:25 |
| elmiko | hahaha | 16:25 |
| edleafe | I don't think so, but we'll see | 16:26 |
| elmiko | cool, thanks for the update edleafe | 16:26 |
| edleafe | Making sure that the github links still work and stuff like that | 16:26 |
| cdent | I had some really cool business cards | 16:26 |
| cdent | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cISYzA36-ZY | 16:26 |
| elmiko | lol, knew it | 16:27 |
| cdent | (this is clearly the most fun hour all week, for me) | 16:27 |
| elmiko | =) | 16:27 |
| elmiko | i'm happy to have been part of it | 16:27 |
| elmiko | now, who's gonna write the newsletter? | 16:28 |
| edleafe | same here | 16:28 |
| edleafe | I wrote it last week | 16:28 |
| elmiko | ok, edleafe is off the hook | 16:28 |
| cdent | I can do it | 16:28 |
| elmiko | i think it's only fair that i do it since cdent was kind enough to take all the actions this week | 16:28 |
| elmiko | either way | 16:28 |
| cdent | oh yeah, yeah, that | 16:28 |
| cdent | go for it | 16:28 |
| elmiko | k, i'll ping in a bit | 16:28 |
| elmiko | thanks everybody! | 16:29 |
| elmiko | now's your chance for a last word =D | 16:29 |
| edleafe | word | 16:29 |
| elmiko | #endmeeting | 16:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 16:29 | |
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| elmiko | XD | 16:29 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_sig/2018/api_sig.2018-08-02-16.00.html | 16:29 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_sig/2018/api_sig.2018-08-02-16.00.txt | 16:29 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_sig/2018/api_sig.2018-08-02-16.00.log.html | 16:29 |
| edleafe | I got the last word! | 16:29 |
| elmiko | indeed sir! | 16:29 |
| dtantsur | :D | 16:29 |
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