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| tosky | let's see if it works... | 14:00 |
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| tosky | #startmeeting sahara | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 17 14:00:44 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tosky. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sahara' | 14:00 |
| jeremyfreudberg | o/ | 14:01 |
| jeremyfreudberg | not sure who else is here | 14:01 |
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| tosky | probably just us, but we can quickly sync | 14:02 |
| tosky | at most, 45 minutes back | 14:02 |
| tosky | #topic News/Updates | 14:02 |
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| tosky | you may have noticed a big rush of patches around the end of the weeks | 14:04 |
| tosky | week* | 14:04 |
| tosky | basically many regressions discovered in live testing for the image generation, backported to queens too | 14:04 |
| tosky | we have a (more stable) 8.0.1 queens release | 14:04 |
| jeremyfreudberg | yes, i saw that, thanks | 14:05 |
| tosky | I worked on enabling wsgi by default, it was easier than expected, there are few patches pending | 14:05 |
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| jeremyfreudberg | meanwhile i have just been trying to get back in the saddle, i have a lot of halfway complete patches locally | 14:06 |
| tosky | oh, nice to hear | 14:06 |
| tosky | I've seen the patch a new version of the admin manage all, but given the WIP I didn't check it in depth | 14:07 |
| tosky | apart from that, most of the patches in the queue should be either immediately meargable or require work | 14:07 |
| jeremyfreudberg | it's not worth reviewing quite yet, we should discuss a bit about the next steps for it though | 14:07 |
| jeremyfreudberg | and i'll take a look at the review queue | 14:07 |
| tosky | I promise to recheck zchkun's patches (sorry!) more quickly; I was relying on the "Jeremy didn't look at it yet, I can wait" but that's not an excuse :) | 14:07 |
| tosky | oh, I'm going to work on S3 verification, at least basic one, extending the existing tempest tests for job binaries and data sources | 14:08 |
| jeremyfreudberg | tosky: that would be very nice | 14:09 |
| tosky | there are two ways to deploy S3: with ceph, but I just discovered that no one tested radosgw with devstack-plugin-ceph; I'm working to try to fix it | 14:09 |
| jeremyfreudberg | yes, i've seen devstack-plugin-ceph, it's a bit unmantained | 14:09 |
| tosky | the other way (discovered today) is the usage of swift3, which is being merged into swift as s3api, and I may try that in the basic job to start the process | 14:09 |
| tosky | but I'd like to have an alternative job with ceph too | 14:10 |
| tosky | so let's see which one lands first | 14:10 |
| jeremyfreudberg | there's definitely some value to the community if you put some hours into the ceph thing | 14:10 |
| tosky | yep | 14:10 |
| jeremyfreudberg | so even if swift3 is "easier", it's worth your digging around with ceph | 14:10 |
| tosky | I completely agree | 14:11 |
| tosky | I think it's all from my side; Telles is on PTO, and he will attend the Summit next week, so there could be some more news afterwards | 14:11 |
| tosky | (if he meets people from community, etc etc, I always hope) | 14:11 |
| jeremyfreudberg | that would be nice | 14:12 |
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| jeremyfreudberg | hi zchkun | 14:12 |
| tosky | hi zchkun - I just wrote that I need to review your patches faster :) | 14:12 |
| tosky | they are not forgotten | 14:13 |
| zchkun | sorry, something wrong with my software | 14:13 |
| jeremyfreudberg | zchkun: no problem | 14:13 |
| zchkun | OK | 14:13 |
| jeremyfreudberg | let's change the topic quickly to hadoop 3.0.x version | 14:13 |
| zchkun | ok | 14:14 |
| jeremyfreudberg | (tosky: i think the chair has to change it) | 14:14 |
| tosky | #topic Hadoop 3.0.x | 14:14 |
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| tosky | jeremyfreudberg, zchkun: here you are | 14:14 |
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| tosky | so, there is an initial patch for sahara-extra | 14:15 |
| zchkun | I select hadoop 3.0.0, and have completed the vanilla 3.0.0 upgrade test | 14:15 |
| jeremyfreudberg | right, thanks for your work zchkun. i am looking at the release notes for 3.0.1, i have a question for you based on your experience with 3.0.0 | 14:16 |
| jeremyfreudberg | http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/r3.0.1/hadoop-project-dist/hadoop-common/release/3.0.1/RELEASENOTES.3.0.1.html | 14:16 |
| jeremyfreudberg | HDFS-12990 | Critical | Change default NameNode RPC port back to 8020 | 14:16 |
| jeremyfreudberg | that was a bug from 3.0.0 fixed in 3.0.1 (or actually, it was a reverting of a feature) | 14:16 |
| jeremyfreudberg | do you have any thoughts on it? | 14:16 |
| zchkun | sorry, I fail to notice that | 14:18 |
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| jeremyfreudberg | zchkun: i don't think it is a big deal, we can look at how often we reference port 8020 in the sahara code | 14:19 |
| zchkun | should we upgrade to 3.0.1? | 14:19 |
| tosky | well, if we start fresh, maybe it's better to get the last version, if there are no known issues | 14:20 |
| jeremyfreudberg | 3.0.1 may help to simplify the code, compared with 3.0.0 | 14:20 |
| tosky | so maybe 3.0.1 ? | 14:22 |
| zchkun | no problem | 14:22 |
| tosky | oki | 14:22 |
| tosky | anything else about this point? | 14:22 |
| jeremyfreudberg | nope, thanks zchkun | 14:23 |
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| tosky | #topic Open Discussion | 14:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:23 | |
| tosky | anything else to discuss today? | 14:23 |
| tosky | remember that the meeting week is cancelled (Telles will attend the Summit, I will be on my own PTO) | 14:24 |
| jeremyfreudberg | about the "admin manage all" feature, i do have a point to discuss | 14:25 |
| tosky | oki, do you want a special topic or can we go quickly now? | 14:25 |
| jeremyfreudberg | let's keep it in open discussion | 14:25 |
| tosky | shoot | 14:26 |
| jeremyfreudberg | anyway, right now it's pretty much magical, if you are admin, then you see a lot more of results in your GET requests, automatically | 14:26 |
| jeremyfreudberg | i'm wondering if a toggle is needed | 14:26 |
| jeremyfreudberg | perhaps in sahara config, to turn the feature off entirely | 14:27 |
| jeremyfreudberg | or maybe something new in the api, to enable/disable per call | 14:27 |
| tosky | to get all results? | 14:27 |
| tosky | I may have said it already, but I would try to align on what other services do | 14:27 |
| jeremyfreudberg | right, in nova it is explicit, in neutron it is implicit | 14:27 |
| jeremyfreudberg | i think in heat it may be implicit as well | 14:27 |
| tosky | request to the TC? Maybe there is some guidelines | 14:28 |
| jeremyfreudberg | i can ask el miko (trying not to ping him right this second), as an api working group person, too | 14:29 |
| tosky | oh, yes, the API working group is probably the best place | 14:29 |
| jeremyfreudberg | but does anyone here have any thoughts? implicit vs explicit? | 14:29 |
| tosky | uhm, I don't really know right now. I suspect it's one of those things were "right" or "wrong" depends on the person you ask to | 14:30 |
| jeremyfreudberg | right, well i will ask around | 14:32 |
| tosky | thanks! | 14:32 |
| jeremyfreudberg | some other quick questions, about deprecation | 14:32 |
| tosky | sure | 14:32 |
| jeremyfreudberg | [keystone_authtoken] - is it time to remove yet? | 14:33 |
| tosky | uh, we don't have the support neither in puppet nor in openstack-ansible-os_sahara; I should try to implement something at least for the latter (which is a bit easier) | 14:34 |
| tosky | but always tons of other stuff to do | 14:34 |
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| jeremyfreudberg | tosky: oh, right, i forgot about puppet/ansible | 14:34 |
| jeremyfreudberg | but in terms of time, i think we meet rule 4 here https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/tags/assert_follows-standard-deprecation.html#requirements no? | 14:35 |
| jeremyfreudberg | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/524936/ was the patch | 14:36 |
| tosky | jeremyfreudberg: yes, the minimum time is fine, we could remove it in rocky | 14:39 |
| jeremyfreudberg | tosky: ok, great | 14:39 |
| tosky | I think it's worth at least to try to have the deployment done correctly; luckily there is still time to think about it and cut it before rocky, if needed | 14:39 |
| jeremyfreudberg | yup | 14:40 |
| jeremyfreudberg | alright, that's all from me | 14:41 |
| tosky | I guess we can close then | 14:42 |
| tosky | thanks all, see you on the usual channel | 14:42 |
| * tosky sets a 3 minute last-chance alarm | 14:42 | |
| tosky | #endmeeting | 14:46 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 14:46 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 17 14:46:52 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:46 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2018/sahara.2018-05-17-14.00.html | 14:46 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2018/sahara.2018-05-17-14.00.txt | 14:46 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2018/sahara.2018-05-17-14.00.log.html | 14:46 |
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| mlavalle | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 17 15:00:28 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3' | 15:00 |
| mlavalle | Hi there! | 15:00 |
| haleyb | hi | 15:00 |
| mlavalle | hey how are you? | 15:02 |
| mlavalle | you've been super busy lately, haven't you? | 15:02 |
| haleyb | good, yes, busy | 15:03 |
| mlavalle | #topic Announcements | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:03 | |
| haleyb | and even found an l3 issue yesterday thanks to slaweq | 15:03 |
| mlavalle | that's cool | 15:03 |
| mlavalle | Summit is next week | 15:03 |
| mlavalle | so we will cancel next week's meeting | 15:03 |
| haleyb | +1 | 15:04 |
| mlavalle | Next milestone is June 4 - 8 | 15:04 |
| mlavalle | Rocky 2 | 15:04 |
| mlavalle | and then Rocky 3 will be the week of July 23 - 28 | 15:05 |
| mlavalle | it will be here before we realize it | 15:05 |
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| mlavalle | any other announcements for today? | 15:06 |
| mlavalle | ok, moving on | 15:06 |
| mlavalle | #topic Bugs | 15:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:07 | |
| mlavalle | do you want to talk about that new L3 issue, haleyb ? | 15:07 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: sure, think slaweq joined too | 15:07 |
| slaweq | hi :) | 15:07 |
| haleyb | in short, if running with l3-ha and you restart the backup/standby, traffic to the master router is interrupted | 15:08 |
| haleyb | it's an issue we've seen before | 15:08 |
| mlavalle | do we have a bug filed for this? | 15:09 |
| haleyb | problem is that we toggle ipv6 forwarding on/off, which causes an MLDv2 packet, switch notices and sends packets on wrong port | 15:09 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: I'm just filling a bug | 15:09 |
| haleyb | we just figured it out this morning, there is a WIP patch | 15:09 |
| haleyb | https://review.openstack.org/569083 | 15:11 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: haleyb: bug filled: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1771841 | 15:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1771841 in neutron "packet loss during backup L3 HA agent restart" [Undecided,Confirmed] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 15:11 |
| mlavalle | thanks slaweq | 15:12 |
| haleyb | this is one of those areas where we're good at moving the bug around, so we'll need to do some testing | 15:12 |
| slaweq | yes, I was thinking about fullstack test for it | 15:12 |
| slaweq | but as it might require a bit more work I thought that maybe it might be done in separate patch | 15:13 |
| slaweq | after fix | 15:13 |
| mlavalle | do we have a pressing need to fix this quickly? | 15:13 |
| mlavalle | maybe we should wait for the test, to be sure this is the fix | 15:15 |
| mlavalle | ??? | 15:15 |
| haleyb | yes, at least for us it is a priority | 15:15 |
| slaweq | haleyb: what do You think? do we need to fix it quickly? IMO yes | 15:15 |
| slaweq | I will try to add such test asap also | 15:16 |
| mlavalle | in that case, let's merge it and then we create the fullstack test | 15:16 |
| slaweq | I will add some UT for this patch now | 15:16 |
| mlavalle | do we need unit tests in this patch? | 15:16 |
| slaweq | and then will work on fullstack test | 15:16 |
| mlavalle | ahh, we were thinking of the same thing | 15:16 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: yes :) | 15:16 |
| slaweq | LOL | 15:17 |
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| haleyb | yes, and we will do some additional testing downstream. i'm still looking at the related codepaths to make sure we don't break anything, or see if there is a better way | 15:17 |
| mlavalle | haleyb: in your experience, is fullstack a good way to test this? | 15:17 |
| slaweq | haleyb: thx | 15:17 |
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| mlavalle | or would a scenario test be better? | 15:18 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: but this particular case requires agent restart - can I do it in scenario test? | 15:18 |
| slaweq | I think that scenario are end-to-end test from user perspective only, no? | 15:18 |
| mlavalle | ahh, right | 15:18 |
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| slaweq | that's why I thought about fullstack | 15:19 |
| mlavalle | yeah, probably fullstack is the right way to go | 15:19 |
| haleyb | i think with fullstack we could trigger it since even pinging the router external IP gets interrupted | 15:19 |
| mlavalle | ok, carry on, then | 15:19 |
| haleyb | i'm of course assuming in a test environment we could trigger it, with real hardware we can | 15:19 |
| haleyb | darn switches | 15:20 |
| slaweq | haleyb: I triggered it on virtual environment yesterday | 15:20 |
| slaweq | it was all on one host and vms :) | 15:20 |
| haleyb | slaweq: ah, so even the virtual switch was learning MACs, forgot about that | 15:21 |
| slaweq | yes, so it should be fine | 15:21 |
| slaweq | but ofc ourse I will test it | 15:21 |
| mlavalle | anything else on this bug? | 15:22 |
| haleyb | nope | 15:23 |
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| mlavalle | thanks slaweq, haleyb | 15:23 |
| mlavalle | Next bug is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1766701 | 15:23 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1766701 in neutron "Trunk Tests are failing often in dvr-multinode scenario job" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel) | 15:24 |
| mlavalle | I think this is the same we discussed during the CI meeting, tis past Tuesday | 15:24 |
| mlavalle | I am investigating what is going on here | 15:24 |
| mlavalle | I don't have anything to report yet | 15:25 |
| mlavalle | Next one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1717302 | 15:26 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1717302 in neutron "Tempest floatingip scenario tests failing on DVR Multinode setup with HA" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Brian Haley (brian-haley) | 15:26 |
| mlavalle | For this one I've been making progress creating a DVR + HA enviroment where to reporduce it | 15:27 |
| mlavalle | I already have the environment. Haven't been able to reproduce it yet | 15:27 |
| haleyb | now that i have a setup running i'll try again as well | 15:27 |
| mlavalle | haleyb: do you want me to assign it to me? | 15:27 |
| mlavalle | in that case, I'll live the bug assigned to you | 15:28 |
| mlavalle | leave^^^^ | 15:28 |
| mlavalle | That's all I have today | 15:28 |
| mlavalle | any other bugs we should disucss? | 15:28 |
| haleyb | damn, should have kept my mouth shut :) | 15:29 |
| mlavalle | LOL | 15:29 |
| haleyb | i don't see any new dvr ones | 15:29 |
| mlavalle | ok | 15:30 |
| mlavalle | moving on then | 15:30 |
| mlavalle | #topic Openflow DVR | 15:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Openflow DVR (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:30 | |
| mlavalle | it seems to me that the Intel guys have given up on this | 15:30 |
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| mlavalle | They haven't shown up over the past month or so to the meeting | 15:31 |
| mlavalle | I still would like to pursue this | 15:31 |
| mlavalle | what do you think haleyb? | 15:31 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: yes on both counts, i'm hoping they have the time | 15:32 |
| mlavalle | mhhh, I've kind of giving up on the hope | 15:32 |
| mlavalle | let's give them until the next meeting, after the summit | 15:32 |
| mlavalle | if they don't give signs of life, let's assume they won't work on it anymore | 15:33 |
| mlavalle | and at that point I will deploy the patch in my environment and start playing with it | 15:33 |
| mlavalle | sounds fair? | 15:33 |
| haleyb | fair enough, don't know where you will find the time... | 15:34 |
| mlavalle | can I borrow your time making machine? | 15:34 |
| mlavalle | you were boasting about it a few weeks ago | 15:34 |
| janzian | I second this request :) | 15:34 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: time machine broken, sorry :) | 15:36 |
| haleyb | the mr fusion is not working | 15:37 |
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| mlavalle | LOL | 15:37 |
| mlavalle | ok, moving on | 15:37 |
| mlavalle | #topic Port Forwarding | 15:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Port Forwarding (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:37 | |
| mlavalle | The API definition landed recently: | 15:38 |
| mlavalle | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/535638/ | 15:38 |
| mlavalle | and we have two patches on the Neutron side: | 15:38 |
| mlavalle | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/535647/ | 15:38 |
| mlavalle | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/533850 | 15:39 |
| mlavalle | They are not passing zuul quite yet | 15:39 |
| mlavalle | but they are moving in the right direction | 15:39 |
| mlavalle | so keep an eye on them, please | 15:39 |
| haleyb | ack | 15:40 |
| mlavalle | and provide feedback if possible | 15:40 |
| mlavalle | #topic | 15:40 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:40 | |
| mlavalle | #undo | 15:40 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #topic | 15:40 |
| mlavalle | #topic Open Agenda | 15:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Agenda (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:40 | |
| mlavalle | any thing else we should discuss today? | 15:40 |
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| haleyb | nope | 15:41 |
| mlavalle | ok, thanks for attending | 15:42 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 15:42 |
| mlavalle | #endmeeting | 15:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:42 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 17 15:42:18 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:42 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2018/neutron_l3.2018-05-17-15.00.html | 15:42 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2018/neutron_l3.2018-05-17-15.00.txt | 15:42 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2018/neutron_l3.2018-05-17-15.00.log.html | 15:42 |
| mlavalle | janzian: nice to see you around | 15:42 |
| slaweq | thx | 15:42 |
| mlavalle | let's have lunch after I come back from Vancouver | 15:42 |
| haleyb | o/ | 15:43 |
| janzian | mlavalle: I'll be in CT the following week, but after that sounds good :) | 15:43 |
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| mlavalle | janzian: ping me when you are back. have a nice trip! | 15:44 |
| janzian | Will do, have fun in Vancouver! | 15:44 |
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| cdent | #startmeeting api sig | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 17 16:00:14 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cdent. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: api sig)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'api_sig' | 16:00 |
| elmiko | heyo/ | 16:00 |
| edleafe | \o | 16:00 |
| cdent | #chair elmiko edleafe dtantsur | 16:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: cdent dtantsur edleafe elmiko | 16:00 |
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| cdent | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/API-SIG#Agenda | 16:00 |
| dtantsur | o/ | 16:00 |
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| cdent | #link last week minutes http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_sig/2018/api_sig.2018-05-10-16.00.html | 16:01 |
| cdent | #topic old biz | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "old biz (Meeting topic: api sig)" | 16:01 | |
| cdent | we didn't have a lot going on last week so had a very quick meeting | 16:01 |
| elmiko | i hope y'all didn't assign me anything XD | 16:01 |
| cdent | no action items, no new bugs, not changed reviews, nothing | 16:01 |
| elmiko | that's easy | 16:01 |
| edleafe | we're a bunch of lazy gits | 16:02 |
| elmiko | haha | 16:02 |
| dtantsur | heh | 16:02 |
| elmiko | i'm not denying that XP | 16:02 |
| cdent | feh | 16:02 |
| cdent | speak for youself slackers! | 16:02 |
| elmiko | LOL | 16:02 |
| elmiko | yeah, can't speak for dtantsur and cdent, but guilty as charged | 16:02 |
| cdent | most excellent | 16:03 |
| cdent | #topic new biz | 16:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "new biz (Meeting topic: api sig)" | 16:04 | |
| cdent | i put the topic of "forum prep" on the agenda | 16:04 |
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| cdent | we have elmiko as a last minute summit attendee | 16:04 |
| cdent | so that's nice | 16:04 |
| elmiko | \o/ | 16:04 |
| cdent | and there is going to be a bof, presumably about graphql? | 16:04 |
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| elmiko | i left the agenda open ended on that | 16:04 |
| edleafe | w00t! elmiko! | 16:04 |
| elmiko | but yeah, presumably graphql will take a bunch of the time | 16:04 |
| elmiko | =D | 16:05 |
| edleafe | I suppose we will need to define the graphql experiment | 16:05 |
| elmiko | ideally we can get a whiteboard or notepad and just do an uncoference style bof | 16:05 |
| edleafe | E.g., what is expected, what constitutes improvement, etc | 16:05 |
| elmiko | it sounded like the neutron folks were open to the idea of them being the first experiemnt | 16:06 |
| elmiko | edleafe++ | 16:06 |
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| cdent | are the four of us on the hook for anything with that, other than making sure the room is there and trying to keep things on some form of track? | 16:06 |
| elmiko | i think we're just facilitating the conversation and providing opinion where needed | 16:07 |
| elmiko | and i suppose we can take notes too XD | 16:07 |
| edleafe | I see us as coordinating the various interests so that they aren't at cross-purposes | 16:07 |
| elmiko | ++ | 16:07 |
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| cdent | cool | 16:07 |
| edleafe | So that result X means the same thing to everyone | 16:08 |
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| elmiko | yeah, i like the idea of adding some formalization to this effort | 16:08 |
| cdent | Seems like we are generally in agreement to show up, be helpful, watch for and help clear up misunderstandings. Facillitation. Good. Let's have more of that. | 16:10 |
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| cdent | any other new biz? | 16:10 |
| elmiko | nothing here | 16:11 |
| edleafe | nada | 16:11 |
| cdent | #topic guidelines | 16:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "guidelines (Meeting topic: api sig)" | 16:12 | |
| cdent | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/api-wg,n,z | 16:12 |
| cdent | been some weeks since any changes | 16:12 |
| cdent | post summit we probably will want to address that | 16:12 |
| elmiko | my schedule is starting to free up, so i can actually get back to the microversion history thing | 16:12 |
| edleafe | maybe even during the summit | 16:12 |
| elmiko | i'm down =) | 16:13 |
| cdent | again with the slackers! | 16:13 |
| elmiko | haha | 16:13 |
| dtantsur | :) | 16:13 |
| cdent | #topic bug review | 16:13 |
| cdent | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-api-wg/+bugs?orderby=-id&start=0 | 16:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bug review (Meeting topic: api sig)" | 16:13 | |
| cdent | same deal here | 16:14 |
| cdent | I guess elmiko and edleafe are going to fix all bugs and finish all guidelines next week, so nbd | 16:14 |
| elmiko | LOL | 16:14 |
| dtantsur | yep | 16:14 |
| elmiko | gonna be a big week | 16:14 |
| edleafe | that's my plan for sure | 16:15 |
| cdent | you can sit on that lovely balcony and get stuff done | 16:15 |
| cdent | away from hoi polloi | 16:16 |
| cdent | anything else about bugs? | 16:16 |
| edleafe | I have a few new caterpillars | 16:16 |
| edleafe | those are bugs, right? | 16:16 |
| cdent | #topic open (again) | 16:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open (again) (Meeting topic: api sig)" | 16:16 | |
| cdent | There's a session we should all go to if we can, let me find it | 16:17 |
| elmiko | i feel like there was another api related issue that came up on the ml which we might need space for at summit | 16:17 |
| cdent | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/vancouver-2018/summit-schedule/events/21881/api-debt-cleanup | 16:17 |
| elmiko | that's it | 16:17 |
| cdent | there are a lot of different opinions on this stuff | 16:18 |
| edleafe | I'll be there | 16:18 |
| dtantsur | huh, interesting | 16:18 |
| elmiko | bummer, so sadly, i need to fly back wednesday =/ | 16:18 |
| cdent | it comes out of a twitter conversation: | 16:18 |
| edleafe | elmiko: you like doing hit-and-run conference attendance, huh? | 16:18 |
| elmiko | i wouldn't say "like", but it happens =( | 16:19 |
| elmiko | who knows, i could get snowed in again ;) | 16:19 |
| cdent | #link https://twitter.com/anticdent/status/994939351233712133 (there are several ways into the same very branching thread) | 16:19 |
| edleafe | Rained in is much more likely | 16:19 |
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| elmiko | any chance of that session getting moved to tuesday? | 16:22 |
| edleafe | elmiko: I think that that time slot was the least bad one for everyone concerned | 16:22 |
| edleafe | So I'm not sure how easy it will be to move it | 16:22 |
| elmiko | kinda figured, it was added recently it seems | 16:22 |
| elmiko | yeah, totally fair | 16:22 |
| elmiko | i'll investigate adding another day to my travel | 16:23 |
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| * cdent is fascinated by elmiko's travel | 16:23 | |
| elmiko | heh | 16:24 |
| cdent | Anyone have anything else? | 16:24 |
| edleafe | not from me | 16:24 |
| elmiko | nothing here | 16:24 |
| cdent | #topic weekly newsletter | 16:25 |
| cdent | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-sig-newsletter | 16:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "weekly newsletter (Meeting topic: api sig)" | 16:25 | |
| cdent | who wants it? | 16:25 |
| elmiko | i can take it | 16:25 |
| cdent | cool, thanks | 16:25 |
| cdent | Shall I close? | 16:25 |
| elmiko | sure, i'll ping in -sdks when i've got something | 16:26 |
| edleafe | finish it! | 16:26 |
| elmiko | see you next week! =) | 16:26 |
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| dtantsur | o/ | 16:26 |
| cdent | #endmeeting | 16:27 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 17 16:27:29 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:27 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_sig/2018/api_sig.2018-05-17-16.00.html | 16:27 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_sig/2018/api_sig.2018-05-17-16.00.txt | 16:27 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_sig/2018/api_sig.2018-05-17-16.00.log.html | 16:27 |
| cdent | thanks for coming | 16:27 |
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| elmiko | thanks! | 16:28 |
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