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| tellesnobrega | #startmeeting sahara | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 8 14:00:54 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tellesnobrega. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sahara' | 14:00 |
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| shuyingya | Hi o/ | 14:01 |
| tellesnobrega | hey shuyingya | 14:01 |
| shuyingya | just in time :) | 14:02 |
| tellesnobrega | yeah :) | 14:02 |
| shuyingya | got home just now | 14:02 |
| shuyingya | so do we start the update? | 14:03 |
| tellesnobrega | I'm waiting for tosky | 14:03 |
| tellesnobrega | a couple more minutes | 14:03 |
| tellesnobrega | than we start | 14:03 |
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| tosky | o/ | 14:04 |
| tellesnobrega | #topic News/Updates | 14:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "News/Updates (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:05 | |
| tosky | (also known as "after the snow") | 14:05 |
| tellesnobrega | yes | 14:06 |
| tosky | despite the snowopenstack PTG, and the fact that Jeremy could not join us, we managed to review the points and draft a plan for Rocky | 14:06 |
| tosky | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-rocky-ptg | 14:06 |
| tellesnobrega | I just got back to work yesterday, PTG ran a little long with flight delays and cancellations | 14:07 |
| tellesnobrega | thanks tosky for the link | 14:07 |
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| tosky | of course anything can change, and we still need some input from Jeremy about the points that he wanted to discuss | 14:07 |
| tosky | I think that we had few questions for shuyingya too | 14:07 |
| tellesnobrega | yes, we plan to have a virtual PTG next week (maybe) so we can have a more detailed discussion on topics from PTG that weren't fully addressed | 14:08 |
| shuyingya | take some times to update patches as you see and take a look at hadoop 3.0 release too. | 14:08 |
| shuyingya | that sounds great | 14:08 |
| tosky | on my side, I managed to complete a storyboard patch which should help with the migration from launchpad to storyboard for all sahara stuff | 14:08 |
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| tosky | the patch is under review, storyboard people will also test the migration, then we should be ready to ask infra to proceed | 14:09 |
| tosky | so... start playing with storyboard if you haven't so far :) | 14:09 |
| tellesnobrega | good idea | 14:11 |
| tellesnobrega | we should drop launchpad as soon as storyboard is fully operational | 14:11 |
| tosky | that should be part of the migration process | 14:11 |
| tosky | we just need to close the bug part for the 3 projects registered on launchpad | 14:12 |
| shuyingya | story board has changed a lot from last time I sign in :) | 14:12 |
| tosky | few concepts are a bit different, but nothing that can't prevent (IMHO) the usage | 14:12 |
| tosky | there is a test instance (warning: self-signed certificate) at https://storyboard-dev.openstack.org/ | 14:13 |
| tellesnobrega | it is fairly simple, we should all take a look into it and get used to it | 14:13 |
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| tellesnobrega | shuyingya, are you going to be able to work on vanilla upgrade again? | 14:14 |
| shuyingya | yes. But I would like to instruct my colleague to work on this. I have talked with him | 14:15 |
| tellesnobrega | that would be great | 14:15 |
| shuyingya | I will ask him join our meeting next week | 14:15 |
| tellesnobrega | awesome | 14:16 |
| tellesnobrega | I guess we can move on to the next topic | 14:16 |
| shuyingya | agree | 14:17 |
| tellesnobrega | #topic OpenStack PTG and release schedule | 14:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack PTG and release schedule (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:17 | |
| tellesnobrega | I will be writing a PTG summary soon, but just so we are on the same page for now | 14:17 |
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| tellesnobrega | we did a overview of the last release and reorganized priorities | 14:18 |
| tellesnobrega | you can check at the link | 14:18 |
| tellesnobrega | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-rocky-ptg | 14:18 |
| tellesnobrega | we have the usual plugins upgrades that we should take care of | 14:19 |
| tellesnobrega | the other I will explain better on the email | 14:19 |
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| shuyingya | thanks tellesnobrega | 14:19 |
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| tellesnobrega | on today's release email said we need to updated project liasons | 14:20 |
| tosky | oh | 14:21 |
| tellesnobrega | I updated, but it would be great if you all took a look and make sure you agree with the liaisons that are written there | 14:21 |
| tellesnobrega | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons | 14:22 |
| tosky | it looked like it was *too* updated in fact :) | 14:22 |
| tosky | I was going to ask what we needed to update | 14:22 |
| tellesnobrega | I updated it today, just wanted you to make sure you agree to where you all are sette | 14:23 |
| tellesnobrega | and if you disagree and want to be liaison for something else let me know | 14:24 |
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| tellesnobrega | so we are all on the same page | 14:24 |
| tellesnobrega | I guess that closes this topic | 14:25 |
| tosky | it looks fine by me | 14:25 |
| tosky | if you want, I can help with the documentation too | 14:25 |
| tellesnobrega | I would like that | 14:26 |
| tellesnobrega | it was me and elise, but I felt it was about time that we removed her for now | 14:26 |
| tellesnobrega | done, added you as well | 14:27 |
| tellesnobrega | #topic Open Discussion | 14:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:28 | |
| tellesnobrega | I don't have anything specific for now, but I think tosky does | 14:28 |
| tosky | uh | 14:28 |
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| tosky | I have a post-lunch memory blank - what did I mention that I should discuss here? | 14:29 |
| tellesnobrega | I remember you saying you wanted to ask shuyingya something | 14:30 |
| tosky | oh, right, the plugin update | 14:30 |
| tellesnobrega | this could be the place | 14:30 |
| tosky | there was an action item in the etherpad | 14:30 |
| tosky | "coExpanded Vanilla with more services" has an Action item - raise during next Sahara meeting | 14:30 |
| tosky | which is mostly: which other services should we expect on vanilla? | 14:31 |
| shuyingya | I have the bp to finish about hbase support. the other services I have no idea | 14:32 |
| tosky | oh, oki | 14:32 |
| tosky | thanks, that was the question | 14:32 |
| shuyingya | np . | 14:32 |
| tosky | oh, one final thing that will be painful during rocky | 14:33 |
| tosky | the sahara-dashboard | 14:33 |
| shuyingya | you mean sahara-dashboard ut? | 14:33 |
| tosky | there is a community goal to remove the dependency on mox; I doubt that we can finish it, but at least starting it would be good (I will try to allocate some time) | 14:33 |
| tosky | if anyone else want to work on it, he/she is welcome! | 14:33 |
| tosky | also, from rocky onward it's just django 1.11 and 2.0; we fixed most of the breakages coming from 1.11, but there could be some others | 14:34 |
| tellesnobrega | I don't know if I will have time, but I can try as well | 14:34 |
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| tosky | and more important we need this to proceed: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/549477/ | 14:34 |
| tosky | I think I put all the details that I know about the current status in the commit message | 14:35 |
| shuyingya | If it is possible, I will call some Chinese contributor to work on this. | 14:35 |
| tosky | the py35dj20 job is failing now, but it requires only a (trivial) patch to proceed | 14:35 |
| tosky | that would be great! | 14:35 |
| tosky | horizon has an etherpad to track the changes, so their reviews can be used as example | 14:36 |
| tellesnobrega | shuyingya, as much people you can bring in will be great | 14:36 |
| shuyingya | yes | 14:36 |
| tosky | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/horizon-unittest-mock-migration | 14:37 |
| shuyingya | https://ethercalc.openstack.org/heat-mox-removal I think we can use ethercalc to manage it as heat | 14:38 |
| tellesnobrega | shuyingya, that looks good | 14:38 |
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| tosky | list or spreadsheet, both fine by me | 14:38 |
| shuyingya | :_ | 14:39 |
| shuyingya | :) | 14:39 |
| tellesnobrega | let us know how it goes gathering people to work on this :) | 14:41 |
| shuyingya | of course | 14:41 |
| tosky | but first approve the patch above or we can't move forward, not even with translations! | 14:41 |
| tosky | nothing more on my side (for now) | 14:41 |
| tellesnobrega | sure | 14:42 |
| tellesnobrega | shuyingya, please take a look at that patch :) | 14:42 |
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| shuyingya | do it right now | 14:42 |
| tellesnobrega | and I think we can close the meeting | 14:42 |
| shuyingya | nothing to discuss from my side | 14:42 |
| shuyingya | bye | 14:42 |
| tellesnobrega | thanks all | 14:43 |
| tosky | thanks! | 14:43 |
| tosky | o/ | 14:43 |
| tellesnobrega | #endmeeting | 14:43 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 8 14:43:10 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:43 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2018/sahara.2018-03-08-14.00.html | 14:43 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2018/sahara.2018-03-08-14.00.txt | 14:43 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2018/sahara.2018-03-08-14.00.log.html | 14:43 |
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| mlavalle | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 8 15:00:16 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3' | 15:00 |
| mlavalle | hi there! | 15:00 |
| Swami | hi | 15:00 |
| mlavalle | hey Swami | 15:01 |
| mlavalle | Nice to see you! | 15:01 |
| david_chou | hi | 15:02 |
| mlavalle | hi david_chou | 15:02 |
| mlavalle | haleyb_ you around? | 15:02 |
| Swami | mlavalle: How did the midcycle go. | 15:03 |
| mlavalle | The meetings went well | 15:03 |
| mlavalle | it was productive | 15:03 |
| mlavalle | lots of plans as usual | 15:03 |
| mlavalle | although the weather didn't cooperate | 15:03 |
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| mlavalle | It snowed so badly that the event was shutdown on Thursday after lunch | 15:04 |
| mlavalle | we had to improvise meeting rooms at the hotel | 15:04 |
| Swami | mlavalle: that is odd | 15:04 |
| mlavalle | the snow storm shutdown the entire UK and Ireland | 15:04 |
| mlavalle | it's the worst they've had in 30 years | 15:04 |
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| Swami | mlavalle: Oh | 15:05 |
| mlavalle | in the UK, the army was rescuing people stranbded in the roads | 15:05 |
| mlavalle | ok, let's get going | 15:06 |
| Swami | mlavalle: no one can stop the wether. | 15:06 |
| Swami | s/wether/weather | 15:06 |
| mlavalle | #topic Announcements | 15:06 |
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| mlavalle | Next milestone is Rocky-1, April 16 - 20 | 15:07 |
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| mlavalle | so welcome to Rocky! | 15:07 |
| mlavalle | The entire Rocky delivery schedule is here: | 15:07 |
| mlavalle | #link https://releases.openstack.org/rocky/schedule.html | 15:08 |
| mlavalle | Tomorrow or Monday I am going to send a mesaage to the ML with a summary of the PTG | 15:09 |
| mlavalle | In the meantime you can see the notes in the etherpad: | 15:09 |
| Swami | mlavalle: nice | 15:09 |
| mlavalle | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-ptg-rocky | 15:09 |
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| mlavalle | any other announcements? | 15:10 |
| david_chou | Execuse me, what is ML? | 15:10 |
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| Swami | david_chou: ML - Mailing list | 15:10 |
| david_chou | Thanks! | 15:10 |
| mlavalle | david_chou: sorry | 15:10 |
| mlavalle | #topic Bugs | 15:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:11 | |
| mlavalle | Swami: do you want to lead with DVR bugs? | 15:11 |
| Swami | mlavalle: sure I have a couple that I wanted to discuss | 15:12 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1751396 | 15:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1751396 in neutron "DVR: Inter Tenant Traffic between two networks and connected through a shared network not reachable with DVR routers" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan) | 15:12 |
| Swami | This is a new bug that was filed by me last week. | 15:12 |
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| Swami | I have a patch up for review. | 15:13 |
| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/547696/ | 15:13 |
| Swami | Needs review on this patch. | 15:13 |
| Swami | This bug is seen when we have shared network on the internal private network without a gateway. | 15:13 |
| Swami | The next bug in my list is | 15:14 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1608400 | 15:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1608400 in neutron "Neutron should not add ARP entry for allowed-address-pair-fixed-ip in DVR router" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan) | 15:14 |
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| Swami | This is one other issue that we have seen issue internally and was also filed upstream. | 15:14 |
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| Swami | The Allowed_address_pair when used with Keepalived even without a FloatingIP is not working with DVR. | 15:15 |
| Swami | The issue was with the router-namespace not able to capture the GARP sent out from the Keepalived. | 15:15 |
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| Swami | The reason is we are adding the ARP entry in the router-namespace as a PERMANENT entry. When ARP entry is added as PERMANENT entry it is not updating the entry when the GARP comes in. | 15:16 |
| Swami | The fix for this patch is allow to override the NUD state for the ARP to set the state as 'reachable' | 15:17 |
| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/550676/ | 15:17 |
| Swami | This patch is under review. | 15:17 |
| Swami | I have to add a couple of tests this is still under WIP. | 15:17 |
| Swami | Any early feedback or review would be nice. | 15:17 |
| mlavalle | it fails unit tests | 15:18 |
| Swami | mlavalle: yes I will fix it and add more tests to it. | 15:18 |
| Swami | mlavalle: Those are the only two new issues that I wanted to bring up. | 15:18 |
| Swami | mlavalle: back to you. | 15:19 |
| mlavalle | Swami: have you had a chance to look lately at the DVR scenario test that has been failing for some time now? | 15:19 |
| mlavalle | or is that something that haleyb_ is looking at now? | 15:19 |
| Swami | mlavalle: No I did not notice. I will take a look at it. | 15:19 |
| mlavalle | Swami: do you remember whhich one I am talking about? | 15:20 |
| Swami | mlavalle: Are you talking about the tempest failure. | 15:20 |
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| mlavalle | yes | 15:20 |
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| Swami | mlavalle: In the last meeting haleyb mentioned that he was setting up his environment to test it. | 15:21 |
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| mlavalle | ok | 15:21 |
| Swami | mlavalle: But I have not heard back from him | 15:21 |
| mlavalle | that's good | 15:21 |
| Swami | mlavalle: definitely I will take a look at it. | 15:21 |
| mlavalle | Swami: thanks Swami ! | 15:21 |
| Swami | mlavalle: I am pretty much swamped downstream at this point. | 15:21 |
| mlavalle | I know | 15:22 |
| mlavalle | if you don't have time to look at it, that's fine | 15:22 |
| mlavalle | I just don't want that bug to fall through the cracks | 15:22 |
| Swami | mlavalle: no problem, I will check back with haleyb on this | 15:22 |
| mlavalle | ok | 15:23 |
| Swami | mlavalle: that's all I have for today. | 15:24 |
| mlavalle | Thank you! | 15:24 |
| mlavalle | #topic Openflow DVR | 15:24 |
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| david_chou | Give me one moment. | 15:25 |
| mlavalle | david_chou: sure | 15:25 |
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| david_chou | Already submitted the fix for ovs-dpdk with dvr_openflow into the patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/472289/ | 15:25 |
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| david_chou | Thomas Morin has a comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/472289/ | 15:26 |
| mlavalle | david_chou: we actually discussed the patch in DUblin | 15:28 |
| mlavalle | so I am aware of the current status | 15:29 |
| david_chou | David Shaugnesey alo responded to Thomas. | 15:29 |
| david_chou | What is your idea? | 15:29 |
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| mlavalle | I intend to review it over the next few days and I will leave my comments there | 15:29 |
| david_chou | Thanks. | 15:30 |
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| mlavalle | is there a way you could start drafting the devref document? | 15:30 |
| mlavalle | it would help with the reviews | 15:30 |
| david_chou | My peer (John Hinman) is in this meeting too. He will take over my work, because I will retire in the end of this April. | 15:31 |
| mlavalle | david_chou: retire as in leaving Intel? | 15:31 |
| david_chou | Retire. | 15:32 |
| mlavalle | all right, good luck! | 15:32 |
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| mlavalle | is John Hinman == john-h? | 15:33 |
| david_chou | I will work with John to the end of this April. | 15:33 |
| david_chou | Yes. | 15:33 |
| mlavalle | john-h: welcome to the team! | 15:34 |
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| john-h | thanks. probably would have been better to have chosen jhinman as nick | 15:35 |
| Swami | john-h: welcome | 15:35 |
| mlavalle | It will be highly appreciated if john-h and / or david_chou can put together an initial devref document | 15:35 |
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| mlavalle | just add it to the patch | 15:35 |
| mlavalle | it will help in the review | 15:36 |
| david_chou | I searched with "OpenStack devref", it seems not in current master branch for those used to have devref? Can you send same sample or Doc to us. | 15:36 |
| Swami | mlavalle: I need to drop off. Will catch you later. | 15:36 |
| mlavalle | Swami: go ahead, thanks for the update | 15:36 |
| mlavalle | david_chou, john-h: here's the entire Neutron devref: https://docs.openstack.org/neutron/latest/contributor/index.html#developer-guide | 15:37 |
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| mlavalle | to add a Openflow DVR doc, you just add another doc here: https://github.com/openstack/neutron/tree/master/doc/source/contributor/internals | 15:38 |
| mlavalle | it is in the Neutron repo | 15:38 |
| mlavalle | does it make sense? | 15:39 |
| david_chou | Ok, will do. | 15:39 |
| mlavalle | That is why I say just add it to the patch we already have | 15:39 |
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| mlavalle | is that all for today's update? | 15:40 |
| david_chou | John will start to work on unit test, functional test, and tempest for dvr_openflow. | 15:40 |
| mlavalle | john-h: please keep in mind Tempest tests go to a different repo | 15:41 |
| mlavalle | #link https://github.com/openstack/neutron-tempest-plugin | 15:42 |
| john-h | ok | 15:42 |
| mlavalle | I don't think we need tempest API tests | 15:42 |
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| mlavalle | but we will definetely need a scenario test | 15:43 |
| david_chou | That is all I have. John, do you have other stuff to discuss. | 15:43 |
| john-h | no | 15:43 |
| mlavalle | a multinode one | 15:43 |
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| mlavalle | because DVR testing makes sense in multinode environment | 15:43 |
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| john-h | I think David has been working on multinode test, right David? | 15:44 |
| david_chou | No, I verified the patch in single node as David Shaunessey asid that it is O.K. to verify the patch in single node. | 15:45 |
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| david_chou | When you said multinode, do you mean hascenario? | 15:46 |
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| mlavalle | john-h, david_chou: here's the section from devref on scenario testing: | 15:46 |
| mlavalle | #link https://docs.openstack.org/neutron/latest/contributor/testing/testing.html#scenario-tests | 15:46 |
| david_chou | Thanks, we will work on it. | 15:48 |
| mlavalle | david_chou, john-h: if you look at the Zuul section of the patch, you will notice that a "neutron-tempest-plugin-dvr-multinode-scenario" job was executed to test it | 15:49 |
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| mlavalle | it is a job where an environment with several nodes is created and the tests run on that environment | 15:49 |
| mlavalle | I think it makes sense to have something similar | 15:49 |
| mlavalle | does it make sense? | 15:50 |
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| david_chou | We will look it, and ask you question through email or in next meeting. | 15:51 |
| mlavalle | of course | 15:51 |
| mlavalle | I expect you to have questions | 15:51 |
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| mlavalle | ok, thanks for the update | 15:52 |
| mlavalle | #topic Open Agenda | 15:52 |
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| mlavalle | any other topics we should discuss today? | 15:52 |
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| mlavalle | ok, thanks for attending today | 15:54 |
| mlavalle | Have a nice rest of your week! | 15:54 |
| david_chou | Thanks, Bye. | 15:54 |
| mlavalle | #endmeeting | 15:54 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:54 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 8 15:54:30 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:54 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2018/neutron_l3.2018-03-08-15.00.html | 15:54 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2018/neutron_l3.2018-03-08-15.00.txt | 15:54 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2018/neutron_l3.2018-03-08-15.00.log.html | 15:54 |
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| edleafe | #startmeeting api_sig | 16:00 |
| edleafe | #chair cdent elmiko edleafe dtantsur | 16:00 |
| edleafe | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/API-SIG#Agenda | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 8 16:00:09 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is edleafe. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| dtantsur | o/ | 16:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'api_sig' | 16:00 |
| openstack | Warning: Nick not in channel: cdent | 16:00 |
| openstack | Warning: Nick not in channel: elmiko | 16:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: cdent dtantsur edleafe elmiko | 16:00 |
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| edleafe | #topic previous meeting action items | 16:01 |
| edleafe | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_sig/2018/api_sig.2018-02-22-16.00.html | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "previous meeting action items (Meeting topic: api_sig)" | 16:01 | |
| edleafe | Spoiler alert: there weren't any | 16:01 |
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| cdent | sorry for tardy | 16:01 |
| cdent | tc channel insane | 16:01 |
| edleafe | Heh, I used to follow that, but it was too crazy for even me | 16:02 |
| edleafe | #topic Digesting the PTG | 16:02 |
| edleafe | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-sig-ptg-rocky | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Digesting the PTG (Meeting topic: api_sig)" | 16:02 | |
| edleafe | A few actions from the PTG: | 16:02 |
| edleafe | cdent to pull microversion handling from placement into a separate lib for reuse. | 16:02 |
| edleafe | dtantsur to finish up version discovery spec | 16:02 |
| edleafe | #link version discovery spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/459710/ | 16:03 |
| edleafe | edleafe to write a summary document for mordred's version discovery spec | 16:03 |
| edleafe | elmiko to survey the various OpenStack projects to get numbers on how those that have RPC-ish APIs implement them so that we can recommend that as an alternative to REST. | 16:03 |
| edleafe | dtantsur to add wording to distinguish a "high level" SDK from a "low level" SDK | 16:03 |
| edleafe | I know I haven't started mine :) | 16:03 |
| dtantsur | likewise :) | 16:03 |
| cdent | the microversion extraction stuff is at | 16:03 |
| cdent | #link microversion-parse http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-March/128004.html | 16:03 |
| cdent | with an email about it at | 16:04 |
| cdent | #link email microversion-parse http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-March/127975.html | 16:04 |
| dtantsur | cool | 16:04 |
| cdent | sadly didn't get much response to the email yet | 16:04 |
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| edleafe | it's not what you would call a hot issue, is it? | 16:05 |
| cdent | i even laid out "microversion-parse needs cores!" bait | 16:05 |
| edleafe | "You had me at 'microversion'" | 16:05 |
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| dtantsur | lol ++ | 16:06 |
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| edleafe | OK, so we all promise to have these actions finished by the next meeting, right? | 16:06 |
| edleafe | :) | 16:06 |
| cdent | i got another one done too | 16:06 |
| cdent | #link cache-control guidance https://review.openstack.org/#/c/550468/ | 16:07 |
| * edleafe thinks cdent is making the rest of us look bad | 16:07 | |
| cdent | but didn't start the one about http verbs and resource orientation | 16:07 |
| dtantsur | edleafe, mordred, we need to somehow sync on finishing the version discovery beast | 16:07 |
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| dtantsur | cdent: I've looked at the cache-control thingy. it looked good, but I was too tired to vote responsibly | 16:07 |
| edleafe | dtantsur: ok, but I won't have any bandwidth for the next week or two | 16:08 |
| dtantsur | edleafe: I'm not sure either, but I may have some | 16:08 |
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| cdent | I'm not trying to make people look bad. I was just going to do the entire cycle's work this week and then skate. But thumb. | 16:08 |
| edleafe | You need your thumb to skate?? | 16:09 |
| cdent | no I need the rest of the week to get the work done | 16:09 |
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| edleafe | Let's all (well, except cdent) try to find the time to work on these actions in the next few weeks. | 16:11 |
| edleafe | #topic open mic and ongoing or new biz | 16:11 |
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| edleafe | Anything to discuss? | 16:11 |
| cdent | did everyone see the feedback on twitter about how nice we are? | 16:12 |
| edleafe | nope - link? | 16:12 |
| * cdent looks | 16:14 | |
| cdent | #link we listen well https://twitter.com/anticdent/status/968503362927972353 | 16:15 |
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| edleafe | nice. I missed that one. | 16:16 |
| dtantsur | \o/ | 16:17 |
| edleafe | too bad he didn't get our name right! | 16:17 |
| dtantsur | time to nit-pick! | 16:18 |
| dtantsur | "we'll hear your voice... AND NITPICK THE HELL OUT OF IT!!" | 16:18 |
| cdent | edleafe has been in nova for too long | 16:18 |
| edleafe | You forgot to cpaitalize 'Nova' | 16:19 |
| edleafe | capitalize, even | 16:19 |
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| edleafe | :-P | 16:19 |
| cdent | \o/ | 16:19 |
| edleafe | Anything else for new biz? | 16:20 |
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| edleafe | ok then | 16:21 |
| edleafe | #topic guidelines | 16:21 |
| edleafe | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/api-wg,n,z | 16:21 |
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| edleafe | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/api-sig,n,z | 16:21 |
| cdent | brb | 16:21 |
| edleafe | The one new one is cdent's cache thing | 16:22 |
| edleafe | #link cdent's cache control clarification https://review.openstack.org/550468 | 16:22 |
| cdent | oh, that reminds me of some new biz | 16:23 |
| edleafe | go for it | 16:24 |
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| cdent | #link invalid query params email http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-March/128022.html | 16:24 |
| cdent | I responded to that with the answer, but it suggests that we've got a discoverability problem | 16:24 |
| cdent | we already know that, so this is really old biz | 16:24 |
| cdent | but I thought I'd refresh it | 16:24 |
| edleafe | yeah, I saw that | 16:25 |
| edleafe | Don't really know how to address the discoverability | 16:26 |
| * dtantsur will look | 16:26 | |
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| dtantsur | my first reflex is to error out on any input that cannot be processed | 16:26 |
| cdent | the thing we've talked about before (and I'm supposed to do) is a field guide to the guidelines | 16:27 |
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| edleafe | Either that, or break them up into lots of short guidelines | 16:27 |
| edleafe | but that would be a huge task | 16:28 |
| edleafe | #topic bug review | 16:29 |
| edleafe | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-api-wg/+bugs?orderby=-id&start=0 | 16:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bug review (Meeting topic: api_sig)" | 16:29 | |
| edleafe | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-api-sig/+bugs?orderby=-id&start=0 | 16:29 |
| edleafe | No new bugs since our last meeting | 16:29 |
| edleafe | Anyone have anything to say about bugs? | 16:29 |
| cdent | no sir | 16:29 |
| dtantsur | nope | 16:30 |
| edleafe | ok, then, on to our favorite thing | 16:30 |
| edleafe | #topic weekly newsletter | 16:30 |
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| edleafe | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-sig-newsletter | 16:30 |
| edleafe | Volunteers? | 16:31 |
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| cdent | not me | 16:31 |
| * edleafe expects cdent to reply with "oh, my poor thumb!" | 16:31 | |
| cdent | jinx | 16:31 |
| edleafe | I guess I can do it | 16:32 |
| edleafe | I'll ping in -sdks when it's ready | 16:32 |
| edleafe | Anything else? | 16:32 |
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| cdent | https://tank-binaries.s3.amazonaws.com/c47f9277fc0144c18c14783b227e058e.jpe | 16:32 |
| cdent | my thumb | 16:32 |
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| cdent | thanks | 16:33 |
| dtantsur | ugh.. get better, poor thumb and poor cdent! | 16:33 |
| edleafe | I had surgery on my middle finger a few years ago. That was fun walking around, keeping it elevated! | 16:34 |
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| edleafe | So on that note... | 16:35 |
| edleafe | #endmeeting | 16:35 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 8 16:35:01 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:35 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_sig/2018/api_sig.2018-03-08-16.00.html | 16:35 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_sig/2018/api_sig.2018-03-08-16.00.txt | 16:35 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_sig/2018/api_sig.2018-03-08-16.00.log.html | 16:35 |
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| cdent | thanks edleafe | 16:36 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #startmeeting networking_policy | 18:14 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 8 18:14:38 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SumitNaiksatam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:14 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:14 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_policy' | 18:14 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | not much on the agenda today, and key team members are busy, so we will end early! | 18:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #endmeeting | 18:18 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 8 18:18:32 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:18 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2018/networking_policy.2018-03-08-18.14.html | 18:18 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2018/networking_policy.2018-03-08-18.14.txt | 18:18 |
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