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| tosky | okidoki, let's workaround PTL's internet troubles | 14:01 |
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| tosky | #startmeeting sahara | 14:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 1 14:01:17 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tosky. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| tosky | #chair tellesnobrega | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sahara' | 14:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: tellesnobrega tosky | 14:01 |
| tellesnobrega | o/ thanks tosky | 14:01 |
| jeremyfreudberg | o/ | 14:01 |
| shuyingya | o/ | 14:01 |
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| tosky | #topic News/Updated | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "News/Updated (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:02 | |
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| tosky | we are in the process of releasing queens-3 | 14:02 |
| tellesnobrega | I'm trying to fulfill my goal to clean up bug list | 14:03 |
| tosky | (with some delays due to zuul flackiness, but that's a shared problem for all openstack) | 14:03 |
| tellesnobrega | also doing some downstream work | 14:04 |
| jeremyfreudberg | past few days i've not been doing much - just orbiting two bugs at the moment: s3_hadoop fixes and the dashboard thing | 14:04 |
| tosky | I'm personally still fighting with ambari, and babysitting the zuulv3 jobs (the ones for sahara-tests and python-saharaclient can be merged when a openstacksdk regression is fixed) | 14:04 |
| shuyingya | some patches to fix oozie sharelib dependency issue on Monday. quite busy with downstream stuff. also help a colleague to finish keypair inject task | 14:05 |
| tellesnobrega | shuyingya, that patch looks good, I was reviewing it earlier today, will test it out | 14:06 |
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| shuyingya | thanks tellesnobrega. | 14:06 |
| tosky | talking about oozie, I have few questions and a note - can I briefly switch topic, or do we have other more important topics? | 14:06 |
| jeremyfreudberg | yes, i need to review that patch, i do have some comments to give, but it mostly looks good | 14:06 |
| jeremyfreudberg | about shuyingya's patch i mean | 14:07 |
| jeremyfreudberg | s/shuyingya/shuyingya colleague | 14:07 |
| jeremyfreudberg | tosky, you can talk about oozie if you want | 14:07 |
| tosky | #topic oozie and artifacts | 14:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "oozie and artifacts (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:07 | |
| shuyingya | tosky, I saw your comment. but didn't get the two patch together. I am ok to put them together | 14:08 |
| tosky | shuyingya: yes, that was my question :) | 14:08 |
| tosky | if they are so connected (i.e. the first one does not work without the second), it makes sense IMHO to merge them | 14:08 |
| tosky | so that we don't commit something that it does not work | 14:08 |
| tosky | apart from that, if the job passes, I'm fine with merging it (and backporting it, as the queens branch was created | 14:09 |
| jeremyfreudberg | yes, i'd agree that we need the right amount of atomicity/granularity of commits | 14:09 |
| shuyingya | ok. I will move them togrther right now | 14:09 |
| jeremyfreudberg | i am also slightly confused about how it's hadoop-openstack dependenc, but it needs to be added to the oozie build | 14:09 |
| tosky | apart from that, I have some updates on the artifacts; I wrote something on the channel but better also have it in the meeting minutes | 14:10 |
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| jeremyfreudberg | shuyingya, do you have some insight on my question, before we move on? | 14:11 |
| shuyingya | And I can post another new patch to sahara-image-elements to build the 2.8.2 image. | 14:11 |
| shuyingya | jeremyfreudberg typing | 14:12 |
| jeremyfreudberg | shuyingya, no problem, take your time :) | 14:12 |
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| shuyingya | let's move on. I will answer jeremyfreudberg later | 14:14 |
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| tosky | oki, so briefly: before the switch to zuulv3, and the automatic conversion of the zuulv2/jjb jobs, the artifacts were published to tarballs.openstack.org/sahara | 14:14 |
| shuyingya | I need test something to clarify some filename | 14:14 |
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| jeremyfreudberg | shuyingya: no problem | 14:15 |
| jeremyfreudberg | tosky: continue | 14:15 |
| tosky | now the jobs (legacy, but it would be probably the same with native jobs) publish to tarballs.openstack.org/sahara-extra | 14:15 |
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| tosky | I asked infra people (namely the poor Monty who I'm nagging a lot lately) how to proceed: whether have a way to publish to the old location, or to add a symlink, or to change the URL where we use it | 14:16 |
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| tosky | because, of course, it's a new special case, unmet before :) | 14:17 |
| tellesnobrega | we are full of those :) | 14:17 |
| tosky | so that's the story - I'm waiting for this to complete the removal of sahara-files | 14:17 |
| tosky | end of the story | 14:17 |
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| jeremyfreudberg | good story | 14:17 |
| jeremyfreudberg | i think we all agree that having the old url would be great | 14:18 |
| tellesnobrega | I'm not sure monty saw my suggestion, but it makes sense to me (allow to publish if the base name is the same) | 14:18 |
| tosky | let's see what will be the result, but it's moving at least | 14:19 |
| tellesnobrega | cool | 14:19 |
| tosky | anything else on the topic? | 14:19 |
| tellesnobrega | not from me | 14:19 |
| jeremyfreudberg | no | 14:19 |
| tosky | ok, I was going for the PTG, or do you have other suggestions? | 14:20 |
| jeremyfreudberg | we can talk about that next, sure | 14:21 |
| tellesnobrega | ptg should be fine | 14:21 |
| tosky | #topic PTG | 14:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:21 | |
| tellesnobrega | about the doc stuff, the last meeting we agreed that we should have a pre-PTG doc day | 14:22 |
| tosky | makes sense | 14:22 |
| tellesnobrega | iirc monday and wednesday are the best days for jeremyfreudberg, does that work for you tosky? | 14:22 |
| tellesnobrega | if so we can schedule for next Wednesday | 14:23 |
| jeremyfreudberg | sounds good | 14:23 |
| tosky | whole day? Sure | 14:23 |
| tellesnobrega | we can start early and see how far we need to go | 14:24 |
| shuyingya | I received a message today that foundation didn't approve my tsp. so I have to attend PTG remotely again. | 14:24 |
| jeremyfreudberg | shuyingya, sorry to hear that | 14:24 |
| tellesnobrega | the idea is to fix simple stuff and have a list of stuff that we need to discuss at PTG | 14:25 |
| tellesnobrega | shuyingya, that is too bad :( | 14:25 |
| shuyingya | no worry. I will try to talk with you in channel or etherpad :) | 14:25 |
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| tellesnobrega | anything else on the topic? | 14:27 |
| tosky | apart from doc day, thanks to a lot of brave souls that updated the rocky etherpad, it's definitely a list of work items now | 14:28 |
| tellesnobrega | it does | 14:28 |
| tellesnobrega | I believe that brave soul tracks back to jeremyfreudberg | 14:28 |
| tosky | better remind the link | 14:28 |
| jeremyfreudberg | correct | 14:28 |
| tosky | #info https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-rocky-ptg | 14:28 |
| tellesnobrega | thanks jeremyfreudberg | 14:28 |
| jeremyfreudberg | i think the etherpad is full enough now, once again it's a packed schedule (but manageable) | 14:28 |
| tellesnobrega | we will do our best | 14:29 |
| shuyingya | I read it today, really good. I may fill etherpad next week. | 14:29 |
| shuyingya | thanks jeremyfreudberg | 14:29 |
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| jeremyfreudberg | shuyingya: np. look forward to your suggestions too | 14:29 |
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| tosky | any other topic, or open discussion? | 14:31 |
| tellesnobrega | open discussion and we can talk about the point release of client that jeremyfreudberg talked about | 14:31 |
| jeremyfreudberg | right | 14:32 |
| jeremyfreudberg | so, tosky can go ahead and change the topic | 14:32 |
| tosky | #topic Open Discussion | 14:32 |
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| tellesnobrega | the floor is yours jeremyfreudberg | 14:32 |
| jeremyfreudberg | so, for context, this is about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/536683/ , proposed patch to sahara-dashboard | 14:32 |
| jeremyfreudberg | you'll recall that because apiv2 really exists now, and because of how version discovery works, we are recommending new deployments to put an unversioned sahara endpoint in the service catalog | 14:33 |
| jeremyfreudberg | that poses a tiny problem for the dashboard | 14:33 |
| jeremyfreudberg | namely, that the way horizon works, is that it gives you some token to authenticate your saharaclient with | 14:34 |
| jeremyfreudberg | our problem is that saharaclient in its current state can take this token input, but for historical reasons only accepts token input with hardcoded sahara endpoint | 14:34 |
| jeremyfreudberg | in other words, it doesn't let token input and version discovery mix | 14:34 |
| jeremyfreudberg | so if the user has unversioned endpoint in the catalog, and no changes to sahara-dashboard, all will fail with 404 | 14:35 |
| jeremyfreudberg | hope that made sense | 14:35 |
| jeremyfreudberg | there's two-ish possible solutions: | 14:35 |
| jeremyfreudberg | 1) | 14:35 |
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| jeremyfreudberg | fix on the dashboard side, by providing a session object to saharaclient instead, a known and normal case which allows version discovery to work | 14:36 |
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| jeremyfreudberg | 2) fix on the saharadashboard side, by allowing direct token input not to require hardcoded endpoint | 14:36 |
| jeremyfreudberg | s/saharadashboard/saharaclient | 14:36 |
| jeremyfreudberg | both 1 and 2 are equally valid, but with their own set of minor issues | 14:37 |
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| jeremyfreudberg | fixing on dashboard side, the problem is transient dependency on keystoneauth (in horizon requirements but not in s-d requirements), and also that we probably want to make this fix for all users, not just dashboard things | 14:37 |
| jeremyfreudberg | fixing on the saharaclient side, the problem is that we need a new release, and a minimum bump to requirements, and there's potentially red tape there | 14:38 |
| jeremyfreudberg | note that when we released saharaclient 1.5.0 last week i specifically said not to bother with the bump | 14:38 |
| jeremyfreudberg | and now with 1.5.1 looming i am changing my mind | 14:39 |
| tellesnobrega | jeremyfreudberg, I like the client fix better, but we can talk with release people and see if this is a big no no | 14:39 |
| jeremyfreudberg | option 2A is fix it on dashboard side, but do it carefully and temporrarily | 14:39 |
| tosky | given the experimental status of v2, in order to avoid a respin of the stable client and a dependency bump, in the worst case we could simply go for 2) in queens and then 1) in rocky | 14:40 |
| jeremyfreudberg | that is to say, with big TODOs and FIXME comments, and try/except on the import of keystoneauth just in case something happens and someone magically runs sahara-dashboard separately from horizon | 14:40 |
| tosky | I don't think that there is even a use case of running any dashboard outside horizon | 14:40 |
| tosky | they all relies on core horizon classes | 14:40 |
| jeremyfreudberg | tosky, true | 14:41 |
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| tellesnobrega | I like tosky's idea, but lets make it a priority to fix it asap in rocky | 14:42 |
| tellesnobrega | so we don't forget | 14:42 |
| jeremyfreudberg | i can prepare patches both for client and dashboard, but not rush to release the client, just put some todo in the dashboard to remove unnecessary code when client bump | 14:42 |
| tellesnobrega | that works nicely | 14:42 |
| tosky | also we need to be careful: the patches would go to sahara-dashboard master; if we want to backport them, we need to manually test the dashboard properly | 14:43 |
| jeremyfreudberg | tosky: the amount of people running pike sahara-dashboard against a new deployment with unversioned endpoint in catalog 'should' be zero | 14:44 |
| tosky | backporting to queens | 14:44 |
| tosky | :) | 14:44 |
| jeremyfreudberg | ugh, right, it's already that time | 14:45 |
| tellesnobrega | yes | 14:45 |
| jeremyfreudberg | worth noting that this fix should be in before i update the docs and such to recommend unversioned endpoint | 14:45 |
| jeremyfreudberg | not sure when i want to land that doc patch, actually | 14:46 |
| jeremyfreudberg | we'll talk about that some other time, though | 14:46 |
| tellesnobrega | sure | 14:46 |
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| jeremyfreudberg | well, it seems like we are all board with what i've said, that's good, usually when i have the floor during the meeting it's for transparency's sake and so you know what the heck i'm actually doing, so good | 14:47 |
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| tellesnobrega | :) | 14:47 |
| tellesnobrega | thanks for the work there jeremyfreudberg | 14:48 |
| jeremyfreudberg | np | 14:48 |
| tellesnobrega | anything else to discuss? | 14:48 |
| tosky | apparently not | 14:49 |
| jeremyfreudberg | that's it from me | 14:49 |
| tellesnobrega | not from me either | 14:49 |
| tellesnobrega | we all get 10 minutes back | 14:49 |
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| shuyingya | no special from my side | 14:50 |
| shuyingya | I just wanna answer jeremyfreudberg's question | 14:50 |
| jeremyfreudberg | sure - we can do that now, if you want | 14:51 |
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| shuyingya | I am not sure you still remember we talked about the httpclient ClassNotFound before, when we execute the oozie command, it need a workflow.xml, and it has some properties to specify the input dir and output dir | 14:52 |
| jeremyfreudberg | yes | 14:52 |
| shuyingya | If we use swift to store data or j-binary | 14:52 |
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| shuyingya | I think oozie will use hadoop-openstack to get data from swift | 14:53 |
| shuyingya | we should provide the depended package in sharelib for oozie. | 14:55 |
| jeremyfreudberg | but my tricky question, wouldn't the dependent package already be inside hadoop-openstack.jar? | 14:56 |
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| jeremyfreudberg | or i might be wrong | 14:57 |
| shuyingya | wow, let me check :) I didn't realize it | 14:58 |
| jeremyfreudberg | your fix might be needed, i'm not sure if oozie can find hadoop-opentack.jar in the classpath | 14:58 |
| jeremyfreudberg | it is a tricky thing, for sure | 14:58 |
| jeremyfreudberg | i just wanted to point out my concern so that we are certain about the fix | 14:58 |
| jeremyfreudberg | 30 seconds left in the meeting, i don't think will resolve it instantly | 14:59 |
| shuyingya | yes | 14:59 |
| tellesnobrega | #action shuyingya to make sure the fix is needed and updates us all | 14:59 |
| shuyingya | will do | 14:59 |
| tellesnobrega | thanks | 14:59 |
| jeremyfreudberg | thanks | 14:59 |
| tellesnobrega | see you all next week, on Wednesday for our pre-PTG doc day | 15:00 |
| tellesnobrega | I will send out an email | 15:00 |
| tellesnobrega | thanks tosky for the help running the meeting | 15:00 |
| tosky | o/ | 15:01 |
| tosky | #endmeeting | 15:01 |
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| shuyingya | see you :) | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 1 15:01:10 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2018/sahara.2018-02-01-14.01.html | 15:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2018/sahara.2018-02-01-14.01.txt | 15:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2018/sahara.2018-02-01-14.01.log.html | 15:01 |
| mlavalle | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 1 15:01:19 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3' | 15:01 |
| mlavalle | Hi there! | 15:01 |
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| haleyb | o/ | 15:02 |
| david_chou1 | Hi | 15:02 |
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| mlavalle | #topic Announcements | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:02 | |
| mlavalle | We are in the RC1 period of Queens | 15:03 |
| mlavalle | These are the bugs we are targeting for RC1: | 15:03 |
| mlavalle | #link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/queens-rc1 | 15:03 |
| mlavalle | We are in the period of PTL nomination: | 15:04 |
| mlavalle | #link https://governance.openstack.org/election/ | 15:04 |
| mlavalle | I will submit my candidacy soon | 15:05 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: thanks, i'll vote for you :) | 15:05 |
| mlavalle | haleyb: thanks :-) | 15:06 |
| mlavalle | We are 4 weeks away from the Dublin PTG | 15:06 |
| david_chou1 | mlavalle: I will vote for you too. | 15:06 |
| mlavalle | thanks david_chou1 :-) | 15:07 |
| mlavalle | much appreciated | 15:07 |
| mlavalle | going back to the PTG, this is the etherpad to submit topics for discussion: | 15:07 |
| mlavalle | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-ptg-rocky | 15:07 |
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| mlavalle | haleyb: you staying in Dublin Friday night of that week? | 15:08 |
| haleyb | yes, leaving saturday morning | 15:08 |
| mlavalle | cool, let's plan something for that evening :-) | 15:09 |
| mlavalle | any other announcements I might be missing? | 15:09 |
| david_chou1 | I can't make to PTG, but Isaku Yamahata from our group will attnd DVR discussion. | 15:09 |
| mlavalle | good to know that he will be there also for that topic | 15:10 |
| mlavalle | #topic Bugs | 15:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:11 | |
| mlavalle | haleyb: do you want to cover DVR bugs? | 15:11 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: sure | 15:11 |
| haleyb | there were no new DVR bugs this week that i saw | 15:12 |
| haleyb | we do have some thing in progress | 15:12 |
| haleyb | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1741411 | 15:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1741411 in neutron "Centralized floating ip Error status" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan) | 15:12 |
| haleyb | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/532683/ | 15:13 |
| haleyb | i will review that today | 15:13 |
| mlavalle | yeah, seems ready for review | 15:13 |
| mlavalle | I will take a look as well | 15:13 |
| haleyb | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521199/ is another | 15:14 |
| haleyb | let me get bug | 15:14 |
| haleyb | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1728665 | 15:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1728665 in neutron "Removing gateway ip for tenant network (DVR) causes traceback in neutron-openvswitch-agent" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Brian Haley (brian-haley) | 15:14 |
| haleyb | i was going to raise that to high since i've heard other reports and the fix is easy | 15:14 |
| haleyb | plus when you get in that state the ovs agent is dead | 15:15 |
| mlavalle | ok | 15:16 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: so i might ask for that to be on rc1 list. Swami's -1 is old and i think i answered his questin | 15:16 |
| mlavalle | I was about to ask about both things | 15:16 |
| haleyb | if i see swami online i'll ask him to look again | 15:17 |
| mlavalle | what if at that point we move it to RC1? | 15:17 |
| mlavalle | does that work? | 15:17 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: yes, that's fine | 15:17 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: and there is of course my on-going bug, 1717302 | 15:18 |
| haleyb | bug 1717302 | 15:18 |
| openstack | bug 1717302 in neutron "Tempest floatingip scenario tests failing on DVR Multinode setup with HA" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1717302 - Assigned to Brian Haley (brian-haley) | 15:18 |
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| haleyb | i am still working on recreating that | 15:19 |
| mlavalle | ok | 15:19 |
| haleyb | it's my white whale as they say | 15:19 |
| mlavalle | is there a logstash search in the bug? | 15:20 |
| mlavalle | I can spend some time looking at logs if that helps | 15:21 |
| haleyb | don't think so, and since we marked it unstable not sure what would show up | 15:21 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: +1 :) | 15:21 |
| mlavalle | well, I'll try to take a look and if I see something interesting I will share with you | 15:22 |
| haleyb | thanks | 15:22 |
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| haleyb | that's all i have for bugs, if any other reviews come together i'll ping you in-channel | 15:23 |
| mlavalle | ok, will take a look | 15:23 |
| mlavalle | I understand that this one is closed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1744359 | 15:23 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1744359 in neutron "Neutron haproxy logs are not being collected" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Brian Haley (brian-haley) | 15:23 |
| mlavalle | I just want to formalize the fact in the bug report | 15:24 |
| mlavalle | you ok if we close it haleyb? | 15:24 |
| haleyb | yes, i had thought there would be a follow-on so didn't tag the change correctly | 15:24 |
| mlavalle | ok, closing it | 15:24 |
| mlavalle | done | 15:25 |
| mlavalle | moving on then | 15:25 |
| mlavalle | #topic Openflow DVR | 15:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Openflow DVR (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:26 | |
| david_chou1 | Still working on the fix for ovs-dpdk with dvr_openflow mentioned last week. | 15:26 |
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| david_chou1 | That's all I have today. | 15:27 |
| mlavalle | do you have the patch url handy? | 15:27 |
| david_chou1 | Just moment. | 15:28 |
| mlavalle | is this it: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/472289/? | 15:29 |
| david_chou1 | Yes, | 15:29 |
| mlavalle | ok cool | 15:30 |
| mlavalle | I will be looking at it over the next few days | 15:30 |
| mlavalle | moving on | 15:31 |
| mlavalle | #topic Routing traffic based on subnet | 15:31 |
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| mlavalle | There is a spec in the works for this topic: | 15:31 |
| david_chou1 | I didn't submitted my fix yet, since I still work on it. | 15:31 |
| mlavalle | #undo | 15:32 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #topic Routing traffic based on subnet | 15:32 |
| mlavalle | david_chou1: that is ok. I just want to have the code fresh in my mind if we are going to talk about this in Ireland | 15:32 |
| david_chou1 | After I submit the patch, I will request your review. | 15:32 |
| mlavalle | that will also be fine | 15:33 |
| david_chou1 | OK | 15:33 |
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| mlavalle | Moving on then | 15:33 |
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| mlavalle | #topic Routing traffic based on subnet | 15:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Routing traffic based on subnet (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:33 | |
| mlavalle | There is a spec under review for this topic: | 15:33 |
| mlavalle | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/523658/ | 15:34 |
| mlavalle | The topic has been discussed a couple of times during the drivers meeting | 15:34 |
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| mlavalle | I've been reviewing the spec and think it is still rough on the edges. I think the use cases descriptions need improvement to make the need clear. If you have some cycles available to help with this, please take a look | 15:36 |
| mlavalle | #topic Open Agenda | 15:36 |
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| mlavalle | any other topics we should discuss today? | 15:36 |
| * haleyb shrugs, nothing here | 15:37 | |
| david_chou1 | nothing from me either. | 15:38 |
| mlavalle | ok, enjoy the rest of the day | 15:38 |
| mlavalle | thanks for the updates | 15:38 |
| mlavalle | #endmeeting | 15:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:38 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 1 15:38:39 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:38 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2018/neutron_l3.2018-02-01-15.01.html | 15:38 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2018/neutron_l3.2018-02-01-15.01.txt | 15:38 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2018/neutron_l3.2018-02-01-15.01.log.html | 15:38 |
| david_chou1 | Bye. | 15:38 |
| haleyb | o/ | 15:39 |
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| cdent | #startmeeting api-sig | 16:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 1 16:02:53 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cdent. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: api-sig)" | 16:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'api_sig' | 16:02 |
| cdent | #chair dtantsur elmiko edleafe | 16:03 |
| dtantsur | o/ | 16:03 |
| openstack | Warning: Nick not in channel: elmiko | 16:03 |
| openstack | Current chairs: cdent dtantsur edleafe elmiko | 16:03 |
| cdent | sorry about the slight delay, lost track of time | 16:03 |
| cdent | #link Agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/API-SIG#Agenda | 16:03 |
| cdent | #topic old biz | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "old biz (Meeting topic: api-sig)" | 16:03 | |
| cdent | there was no meeting last week | 16:03 |
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| cdent | and the week before had no action items | 16:04 |
| cdent | #topic new biz | 16:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "new biz (Meeting topic: api-sig)" | 16:04 | |
| cdent | #link action apis thread: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-January/126334.html | 16:04 |
| dtantsur | a chance to say what we think about such actions? :) | 16:05 |
| cdent | that ^ was a thread on the dev list that invited our input on dealing with "actions" in uris. our input was invited but I think everyone was sufficiently distracted that they mimssed it | 16:05 |
| cdent | sure, if you like | 16:05 |
| dtantsur | probably not overly constructive though | 16:05 |
| cdent | perhaps, but I do think the thread deserves a bit of attention, even though it is somewhat old now | 16:06 |
| edleafe | \o (sort of) | 16:06 |
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| elmiko | o/ | 16:06 |
| elmiko | sorry, missed the calendar bing | 16:07 |
| * edleafe is on a phone meeting | 16:07 | |
| cdent | elmiko: no worries, the only reason I remembered is because dtantsur was on the ball | 16:07 |
| elmiko | dtantsur++ | 16:07 |
| * elmiko pulls up agenda | 16:07 | |
| cdent | we were discussing how this thread http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-January/126334.html invited our attention | 16:07 |
| cdent | be we haven't given it any (yet) | 16:08 |
| dtantsur | I kinda agree that if we do actions, we should make them explicit in the URL | 16:08 |
| elmiko | ooh, action resources, my favorite =) | 16:08 |
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| dtantsur | because, discoverability, all the things | 16:08 |
| elmiko | dtantsur: like explicit url to a resource based action? | 16:09 |
| dtantsur | elmiko: like, using /<object>/actions/<action> not just /<object>/actions | 16:09 |
| elmiko | ack | 16:10 |
| dtantsur | I mean, both are evil, but the former is a lesser one IMO | 16:10 |
| elmiko | yeah | 16:10 |
| edleafe | so are they saying "let's not get tied up with this RESTy stuff"? | 16:10 |
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| edleafe | i.e., don't use POST /resource with an action in the body? | 16:10 |
| dtantsur | edleafe: not sure I get you, but they're picking between several non-REST approaches :) | 16:10 |
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| elmiko | imo, i like the idea of tightly scoped urls to define the action, but then having the actions be resources based for tracking and asynch behaviors | 16:10 |
| edleafe | dtantsur: yeah, that's my point. They are considering everythine *except* the REST way | 16:11 |
| dtantsur | right | 16:11 |
| dtantsur | which gets us down the rabbit hole of how to express e.g. a server stop in a restful way :) | 16:11 |
| mugsie | we track these sort of things as tasks, which are resources in their own right | 16:12 |
| elmiko | mugsie++ | 16:12 |
| dtantsur | mugsie: right, this is the best approach IMO | 16:12 |
| mugsie | https://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/dns/#zone-import -> https://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/dns/#zone-ownership-transfers-accepts | 16:12 |
| dtantsur | but if we're speaking about existing APIs, this means a complete rewrite | 16:12 |
| mugsie | or ... 2 ways of doing the same thing at least temporarily | 16:12 |
| elmiko | i don't think we should accept the non-resource based style for a guideline simply because it's a lot of old code | 16:13 |
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| edleafe | mugsie: what is the conceptual difference between 'action' and 'task'? | 16:13 |
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| elmiko | i know it's a tough pill to swallow, but we can't advise folks to use the non-resource methodology | 16:13 |
| mugsie | edleafe: nothing - it was just our word choise | 16:14 |
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| mugsie | choice* | 16:14 |
| dtantsur | elmiko: I agree. I'm trying to imagine how we can lead this conversation to not end up with "- You should do X. - No way" | 16:14 |
| edleafe | mugsie: ok, that's what I thought | 16:14 |
| mugsie | but we diud make sure we kept track of old tasks, and they all get an ID, and have a status that progresses as the task /action is performed | 16:14 |
| elmiko | dtantsur: ack | 16:15 |
| elmiko | that's a tough problem to solve, i'm not sure how we make a good guideline without upsetting some folks | 16:15 |
| edleafe | elmiko: I think the approach should be: "Use this RESTful approach. Until you can get there, this non-RESTful approach is the least sucky, so try for that" | 16:15 |
| elmiko | edleafe++ | 16:15 |
| elmiko | yes, give folks a way to get there | 16:15 |
| cdent | Does someone want to volunteer to join the thread? | 16:15 |
| edleafe | IOW, never endorse a non-RESTful approach as our recommendation | 16:16 |
| cdent | or even some ones | 16:16 |
| elmiko | edleafe++ | 16:16 |
| dtantsur | edleafe: that's what I would say, yes | 16:16 |
| edleafe | cdent: I guess I can reply | 16:16 |
| elmiko | cdent: i can join, might not be today though | 16:16 |
| dtantsur | I can jump on it too | 16:16 |
| elmiko | \o/ | 16:16 |
| edleafe | well, let | 16:16 |
| edleafe | ugh | 16:16 |
| edleafe | let's not repeat ourselves | 16:16 |
| elmiko | ++ | 16:16 |
| edleafe | we should really just have one API-SIG response | 16:17 |
| elmiko | that's fair | 16:17 |
| cdent | #action edleafe to jump on the email thread | 16:17 |
| cdent | Any other new biz or open discussion? | 16:17 |
| edleafe | cdent: with my knees, I think I'll step lightly :) | 16:17 |
| cdent | it's a soft landing | 16:18 |
| * elmiko chuckles | 16:18 | |
| cdent | One open discussion topic might be "oh hey, that PTG thing is coming round again" | 16:18 |
| dtantsur | \o/ | 16:18 |
| * dtantsur has applied for a visa.. fingers crossed | 16:18 | |
| cdent | you need a visa dtantsur ? bummer | 16:19 |
| cdent | anybody definitely not going? | 16:19 |
| dtantsur | cdent: sucks to have such a passport :( | 16:19 |
| elmiko | cdent: i don't think i'll be there | 16:19 |
| * dtantsur mumbles something about the foundation considering visas when deciding on a venue | 16:19 | |
| edleafe | I'm coming, but IBM is dragging its heels on approving | 16:19 |
| cdent | elmiko: nooooooooooo! | 16:19 |
| elmiko | although, i'm willing to video call in if folks would like | 16:20 |
| edleafe | Already bought airline tix | 16:20 |
| elmiko | sorry cdent =( | 16:20 |
| dtantsur | elmiko: it may work depending on the room equipment | 16:20 |
| dtantsur | elmiko-- | 16:20 |
| edleafe | elmiko: video Guinness isn't as good | 16:20 |
| elmiko | cool | 16:20 |
| elmiko | haha, yeah | 16:20 |
| dtantsur | heh | 16:20 |
| elmiko | do we know what days are the api-sig stuff? | 16:21 |
| cdent | yeah, one sec | 16:21 |
| elmiko | (maybe i can make a case for a short journey) | 16:21 |
| cdent | #link ptg sched: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRmqAAQZA1rIzlNJpVp-X60-z6jMn_95BKWtf0csGT9LkDharY-mppI25KjiuRasmK413MxXcoSU7ki/pubhtml?gid=1374855307 | 16:21 |
| dtantsur | Monday? | 16:21 |
| cdent | yeah, only a day this time | 16:21 |
| edleafe | elmiko: isn't the airline tix the biggest cost? Or are they worried that you will be slacking off on your day job? | 16:22 |
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| dtantsur | fine, I'll have time to check out the city | 16:22 |
| dtantsur | on Tue, I mean | 16:22 |
| cdent | without microversions to discuss, we just don't have that much to say... | 16:22 |
| elmiko | edleafe: little of column a, little of column b | 16:22 |
| dtantsur | cdent: what do you mean by "without"? ;) | 16:23 |
| dtantsur | we ALWAYS have microversions to discuss | 16:23 |
| elmiko | and not so much slacking, just that our group doesn't do any openstack anymore | 16:23 |
| elmiko | haha | 16:23 |
| edleafe | elmiko: so the $$ will be the same. You can just work remote on Tues, Wed, etc | 16:23 |
| * dtantsur gently reminds about his SDK guideline to bike shed on | 16:23 | |
| elmiko | edleafe++ | 16:23 |
| elmiko | i'll take one more pass at getting approval | 16:24 |
| cdent | dtantsur: I was meaning more that the great existential battles about microversions are behind us | 16:24 |
| * dtantsur is less optimistic | 16:24 | |
| edleafe | cdent: We could bikeshed on what to rename "microversions" to! | 16:24 |
| dtantsur | if we ever try to push them to more projects, the past battle will seem just a shadow of the horrible present | 16:24 |
| cdent | the battles weren't won, people just got fatigued and decided there were better things to do | 16:24 |
| dtantsur | edleafe: !!! | 16:24 |
| dtantsur | do I remember it right that somebody proposed "microversion everything" as an openstack-wide goal? | 16:25 |
| cdent | I think it has been on the etherpad, but never made it past that | 16:26 |
| edleafe | dtantsur: I think that was suggested, but goals are supposed to be achievable in one cycle | 16:26 |
| dtantsur | .. or ever ;) | 16:27 |
| dtantsur | okay then. if it ever becomes serious, we're gonna have a new round. | 16:27 |
| mugsie | and I suspect some projects would just outright refuse to do it :P | 16:27 |
| edleafe | It does seem odd that the way to ensure that you don't break an API (via microversions) is only possible by breaking your API (by switching to microversions) | 16:27 |
| dtantsur | edleafe: why breaking? | 16:28 |
| dtantsur | I recall us switching quite smoothly (well... from this standpoint) | 16:28 |
| edleafe | dtantsur: most projects that have objected have raised breakage as a reason for not wanting to implement | 16:28 |
| dtantsur | we just declared whatever we had 1.1 or something like that | 16:28 |
| dtantsur | curious | 16:28 |
| dtantsur | I was objecting because I find it confusing and error-prone | 16:29 |
| edleafe | Some have v1, v2, etc | 16:29 |
| dtantsur | we had v1, so we just froze it at the point of switch. then we can v1+microversion for newer things | 16:29 |
| dtantsur | but this is side-tracking a bit, sorry :) | 16:29 |
| elmiko | i wonder if the backward compatiblity nature of microversions scares ppl as well? | 16:30 |
| cdent | regarding the ptg, we should probably prepare some topics | 16:30 |
| elmiko | ++ | 16:30 |
| elmiko | how about actions? | 16:30 |
| dtantsur | actions++ | 16:30 |
| cdent | let's do that at | 16:30 |
| cdent | #link ptg etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-sig-ptg-rocky | 16:30 |
| dtantsur | and I'm quite serious about microversions in SDKs, it's unlikely we merge them | 16:30 |
| dtantsur | and I'd probably meet people from SDKs before we do anyway | 16:31 |
| edleafe | I think with SDKs we're going to have the same problem as with "capabilities" | 16:33 |
| edleafe | There are multiple levels that are all being called the same thing | 16:33 |
| edleafe | dtantsur tried to separate the definitions | 16:34 |
| edleafe | but it does seem that there is more of a spectrum of SDK focus | 16:34 |
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| cdent | It's question that's come up a lot, so we can do a service by providing some help with making it a real conversations | 16:35 |
| cdent | #topic guidelines | 16:35 |
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| cdent | #link pending guidelines https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/api-wg,n,z | 16:35 |
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| cdent | doesn't look like anything is ready for freeze, conversations continues on dtantsur's thing (a good starting point for the conversation) | 16:36 |
| cdent | the schema thing is languishing a bit? | 16:36 |
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| elmiko | re: ptg, seems like i'm getting some traction, so keep your fingers crossed | 16:36 |
| dtantsur | \o/ | 16:36 |
| elmiko | i said you guys are getting really pushy | 16:36 |
| cdent | mordred's tome will probably come back to life eventually but not clear when | 16:36 |
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| mordred | uhoh | 16:37 |
| mordred | yah | 16:37 |
| dtantsur | elmiko: we haven't even started ;) | 16:37 |
| mordred | I keep getting distracted by other things | 16:37 |
| dtantsur | mordred: o/ anything to discuss at the PTG? | 16:37 |
| * elmiko chuckles | 16:37 | |
| cdent | elmiko: I think you can tell your boss you owe me a (very expensive) beer | 16:37 |
| elmiko | cdent: LOL | 16:37 |
| elmiko | indeed | 16:37 |
| mordred | dtantsur: I'd loe to chat with you about the sdk/microversion stuff at least | 16:37 |
| dtantsur | mordred: totally! I've proposed a topic on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-sig-ptg-rocky | 16:37 |
| mordred | and would also like to talk with y'all and maybe public cloud folkks about the cloud profile thing I need to update | 16:38 |
| mordred | dtantsur: woot | 16:38 |
| dtantsur | if they don't send me to hell with my visa request ofc.. | 16:38 |
| cdent | mordred: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-sig-ptg-rocky | 16:38 |
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| cdent | word | 16:39 |
| cdent | #topic bugs | 16:39 |
| dtantsur | mordred: some details would not hurt | 16:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: api-sig)" | 16:39 | |
| cdent | #link bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-api-wg/+bugs?orderby=-id&start=0 | 16:39 |
| cdent | no new bugs, no progress on existing bugs | 16:39 |
| dtantsur | stability! | 16:39 |
| cdent | I reckon winter is the hardest api-sig season | 16:39 |
| edleafe | yes, especially feature FREEZE | 16:40 |
| * elmiko facepalm | 16:40 | |
| cdent | /o\ | 16:40 |
| cdent | #topic newsletter | 16:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "newsletter (Meeting topic: api-sig)" | 16:40 | |
| cdent | #link newsletter https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-sig-newsletter | 16:40 |
| cdent | any takers? | 16:41 |
| edleafe | I'm doing the email reply, so prolly not me | 16:41 |
| elmiko | i can take it | 16:41 |
| * cdent cookies elmiko | 16:41 | |
| elmiko | i'll ping folks in like 15-20 | 16:42 |
| cdent | anyone have anything to add to the record before I end the meeting? | 16:42 |
| cdent | okay then, thanks everyone for showing up, a pleasure as always | 16:42 |
| cdent | #endmeeting | 16:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 16:43 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 1 16:42:58 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:43 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_sig/2018/api_sig.2018-02-01-16.02.html | 16:43 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_sig/2018/api_sig.2018-02-01-16.02.txt | 16:43 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_sig/2018/api_sig.2018-02-01-16.02.log.html | 16:43 |
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| rkukura | hi SumitNaiksatam | 18:00 |
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| annakk | hi! | 18:01 |
| rkukura | hi annakk | 18:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: annakk : hi | 18:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #startmeeting networking_policy | 18:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 1 18:02:19 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SumitNaiksatam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking_policy)" | 18:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_policy' | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Vancouver Summit prep | 18:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Vancouver Summit prep (Meeting topic: networking_policy)" | 18:02 | |
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| * tbachman scrambles in | 18:03 | |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: annakk rkukura hi! | 18:03 |
| tbachman | sorry I’m late | 18:03 |
| rkukura | hi tbachman | 18:03 |
| tbachman | and thanks SumitNaiksatam for the kind reminder ;) | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: not really, just started :-) | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | annakk: did you have your moment of epiphany with the talk abstract? :-P | 18:04 |
| annakk | :) | 18:04 |
| annakk | I don't seem to have the inspiration. I have some text, but its standard stuff.. | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | annakk: ok np, we still have time | 18:05 |
| annakk | if anyone has an idea of how to craft it so it catches attention, please share | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: tbachman: any further thoughts at your end on this topic? | 18:05 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: alas no | 18:05 |
| rkukura | nope | 18:06 |
| * tbachman just likes saying alas | 18:06 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: lol, we can try to be positive than that | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | annakk: whenever you feel comfortable sharing, please do | 18:06 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | and we can provide our input/contribute | 18:07 |
| annakk | I'll share what I have, maybe this will help it evolve | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | annakk: sure | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | okay moving on | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Pending patches | 18:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Pending patches (Meeting topic: networking_policy)" | 18:07 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | before that, just a quick update on the UI | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | while testing something else, i stumbled on some critical issues with the UI | 18:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | for pike that is | 18:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i put the fixes in two patches and they have merged (thanks rkukura and tbachman for reviewing merging) | 18:08 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: np! | 18:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hopefully this makes the UI usable again, need to watch out though | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | on that point, annakk any luck getting your CI working? | 18:09 |
| annakk | yes, the nsx driver works with pike | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | annakk: ok nice | 18:09 |
| annakk | but i discovered that CI reports success very optimistically :) nee dto fix that | 18:10 |
| annakk | nsx CI, that is | 18:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ah okay | 18:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | but i am guessing you did not exercise the UI? | 18:10 |
| annakk | no | 18:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ok good, so i beat you to it :-) | 18:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hopefully you will not see issues when you do | 18:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | regarding the pending patches | 18:10 |
| annakk | :) | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: thanks for adding the UT, didnt mean to create more work for you, i was just curious | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | with reference to this patch #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/539609/ | 18:11 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: no, it was a good point | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i will vote shortly | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | most of these patches are apic/aim related, so annakk bear with us | 18:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/532717/ | 18:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | kent seems to have gotten this out of WIP | 18:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: you were looking at this and Ivar’s patch #link https://review.openstack.org/519788 ? | 18:13 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: I will have some issues to file on Kent’s but probably not until Monday (I’m off tomorrow) | 18:13 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: okay | 18:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar’s patch is still WIP, and so is yours #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/529991/ | 18:14 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: anything do discuss regarding your patch? | 18:14 |
| rkukura | Mine could be merged at any point, with followon work to complete it | 18:15 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: you have workflow -1 on your patch | 18:16 |
| rkukura | but it will need some cleanup, so probably not until next week | 18:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: how is this validation tool triggered? | 18:16 |
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| rkukura | currently, its just python code called from UTs | 18:16 |
| rkukura | but there will be a basic CLI | 18:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: you CLI that calls a REST API? | 18:17 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | *you mean | 18:17 |
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| rkukura | no, its more like db_manage - it works against the DB | 18:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: okay | 18:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so the mechanism drvier, plugin, etc modules are used as a “library” by this utility | 18:19 |
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| rkukura | right | 18:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | okay | 18:19 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | there were a couple of other small patches | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://review.openstack.org/537265 | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | “Remove SCREEN_LOGDIR from devstack” | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so if you do happen to use devstack, starting with Pike, you will notice, that by default it no longer uses screen | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | it uses systemctl | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | however in Pike there is still an option to use the older screen based process launching | 18:21 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | we can merge the above patch on the master, but not for pike | 18:21 |
| * tbachman noticed that when trying to run devstack on his ubuntu system | 18:21 | |
| tbachman | (14.04) | 18:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: right | 18:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i am more used the older model, so i was happy that an option existed to use screen | 18:22 |
| rkukura | I never used screen | 18:22 |
| tbachman | Ah, good | 18:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i find it easier to just open the log file in vim | 18:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: there is a setting in the local.conf, ping me if you need it | 18:22 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: I think there’s an issue b/c of systemctl in ubuntu? | 18:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | but i guess we need to start getting used to the newer model | 18:22 |
| tbachman | meaning theer isn’t one in 14.04 | 18:22 |
| tbachman | there | 18:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: oh could be, i am not aware, i have 16.04 | 18:23 |
| tbachman | so, screen will be helpful | 18:23 |
| tbachman | ah | 18:23 |
| tbachman | lol | 18:23 |
| tbachman | in any case, I’ll get that from you at some later point | 18:23 |
| tbachman | thx | 18:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: that probably explains | 18:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/518269/ | 18:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | “ | 18:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | Add providing groups attribute of rule set in resource map” | 18:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | another small patch | 18:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i think this is fine, i believe we are already populating providing groups in the dict | 18:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i think that covers most of the pending patches | 18:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Open Discussion | 18:24 |
| rkukura | I was concerned that this defined an attribute but did not implement it | 18:24 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: its read only, like the other relationships | 18:24 |
| annakk | rkukura: i tested it | 18:25 |
| rkukura | but is the value actually returned? | 18:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i believe so | 18:25 |
| rkukura | And is it covered by a UT? | 18:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | annakk: great, thanks | 18:25 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: agree, it can be added to the UT coverage | 18:25 |
| rkukura | If its been there all along and just wasn’t defined in the extension, then this may be all that is needed | 18:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i think i had checked, but we were not validating other such relationships in the UTs as well, so i wasnt sure if we wanted to enforce in this case | 18:26 |
| rkukura | ok | 18:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ideally we should have been testing all such relationships in the UTs (by UTs I am referring to the API level UTs) | 18:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i had one tip to share | 18:27 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | perhaps you gusy already know it | 18:27 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | in Heat its possible to pass, what they call, a "value_spec” | 18:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | meaning, if you have extended a resource, like say in neutron, you extend the network with a custom attribute (we have apic_dn with apic) | 18:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | you dont necessarily need to redfine the resource, you can pass a value_spec, which is essentially a key-value pair for that attribute | 18:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | (thanks to ifti for discovering this) | 18:29 |
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| annakk | interesting | 18:30 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: yeah, good find | 18:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | of course you cannot do attribute validation in heat for this, but this is expedient in cases when you cant update the upstream heat resource definition | 18:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: credit goes to Ifti for finding it :-) | 18:30 |
| tbachman | ack | 18:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | alrighty, anything else we want to discuss? | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | else we can wrap up in 30 mins :-) | 18:31 |
| annakk | not from me | 18:31 |
| rkukura | me either | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | annakk: rkukura tbachman: thanks much for joining! | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bye | 18:31 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: thx! | 18:31 |
| annakk | thanks! bye | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #endmeeting | 18:31 |
| rkukura | bye | 18:31 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 1 18:31:51 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:31 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2018/networking_policy.2018-02-01-18.02.html | 18:31 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2018/networking_policy.2018-02-01-18.02.txt | 18:31 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2018/networking_policy.2018-02-01-18.02.log.html | 18:31 |
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