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| witek | #startmeeting monasca | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 29 15:00:30 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is witek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'monasca' | 15:00 |
| sc | yo | 15:00 |
| jgr | Hello | 15:00 |
| fouadben | hi | 15:00 |
| witek | hello | 15:00 |
| cbellucci | Hello | 15:00 |
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| tobiajo | hi | 15:00 |
| joadavis | hiya | 15:00 |
| witek | just two items on the agenda today | 15:01 |
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| witek | feel free to add | 15:01 |
| witek | #topic monasca-agent detection | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "monasca-agent detection (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:01 | |
| Neptu | hej | 15:01 |
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| witek | hi Neptu | 15:02 |
| witek | is it your topic? | 15:02 |
| Neptu | no not really | 15:02 |
| witek | Tobias reported the bug in detection plugin | 15:03 |
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| Neptu | im working now more into k8s | 15:03 |
| tobiajo | it was me that wanted to address the fact that monasca-setup often crashes when it uses oslo_config | 15:03 |
| witek | trying to parse configuration using oslo.config | 15:03 |
| tobiajo | link to reported issue: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2001303 | 15:03 |
| witek | I had a look at this before the meeting | 15:03 |
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| witek | it looks to me, that parsing the config file is imlemented not robust enough, as you noted | 15:04 |
| tobiajo | what did you find. anyone here that was involved implementing the usage of oslo.config? | 15:04 |
| witek | the only two build-in options for oslo.config are config_file and config_dir | 15:05 |
| witek | only these should be accepted from the cmdline | 15:06 |
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| witek | so the bug is in monasca_setup.detection.utils.load_oslo_configuration | 15:06 |
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| tobiajo | what solution do you see? | 15:06 |
| witek | change the code around this line https://github.com/openstack/monasca-agent/blob/stable/pike/monasca_setup/detection/utils.py#L186 | 15:07 |
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| witek | to accept only buil-in options | 15:07 |
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| witek | https://docs.openstack.org/oslo.config/latest/reference/builtins.html | 15:07 |
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| witek | what do you think? | 15:08 |
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| witek | we can continue the discussion in the story | 15:09 |
| tobiajo | if only config_file and config_dir should be accepted, it easy to patch. but what was the reason behind impl. usage of oslo.config here? | 15:09 |
| tobiajo | i don't see the reason behind this added complexity | 15:10 |
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| witek | to have generic way of getting information from configuration files | 15:10 |
| witek | every deployment can have them in different locations | 15:11 |
| tobiajo | makes sense | 15:12 |
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| tobiajo | if non one else have any input it is ok for me to continue on to the next topic | 15:13 |
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| witek | btw. only two plugins use it at the moment, as far as I can see | 15:14 |
| witek | and there is an epic story for this: | 15:14 |
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| witek | https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2000999 | 15:14 |
| witek | #topic PTG in Dublin | 15:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG in Dublin (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:15 | |
| witek | OpenStack Foundation has officially announced the next Project Teams Gathering | 15:16 |
| witek | it will be held in Dublin, February 26 - March 2, 2018 | 15:16 |
| witek | I've been asked if Monasca will attend the Gathering | 15:17 |
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| sc | I'll attend ;-) | 15:17 |
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| jgu | I am interested but will see if there is travel budget | 15:17 |
| witek | yes, you're half Irish :) | 15:18 |
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| sc | witek: hahaha | 15:18 |
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| witek | I wanted to generally ask, if you think it's a good idea to meet in person | 15:18 |
| witek | or you prefer a video conference | 15:19 |
| Yavor_OP5 | I think it would be beneficial | 15:19 |
| witek | for people having budget problem, there is Travel Support Program | 15:19 |
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| witek | the details are described on the website | 15:20 |
| witek | https://www.openstack.org/ptg/ | 15:20 |
| sc | witek: I prefer meeting in person and this time I hope to get funds for the short travel | 15:20 |
| witek | yes, I also prefer meeting in person, but having representation of all parties is also important | 15:21 |
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| witek | so, I have set up again a Google Form to collect your opinions | 15:22 |
| sc | good | 15:22 |
| jgu | witek: thanks for the link. It's int'l travel for me so we'll see :-). I prefer to meet in person since it's quite a while. But I imagine we may alway need a conference line for those who couldn't travel. | 15:23 |
| witek | yes, that's an option too | 15:23 |
| witek | although it's not the same | 15:24 |
| jgu | agreed :-) | 15:25 |
| witek | I have to give the answer if Monasca is attending next week | 15:25 |
| witek | so please fill in the form, and we'll update next week | 15:26 |
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| witek | #topic Cassandra update | 15:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Cassandra update (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:27 | |
| jgu | that's me. Just wanted to give a quick update that cassadra now has passed the new zuul gates with cassandra as tsdb. | 15:27 |
| witek | great news! | 15:27 |
| sc | WOW | 15:28 |
| nseyvet | congrats! | 15:28 |
| witek | 'Depends-On:' tags seem to work :) | 15:28 |
| joadavis | +1 | 15:28 |
| jgu | yeah, thx all for the help :-) | 15:28 |
| witek | I think we can finally get someone for review this week | 15:29 |
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| sc | looks strange but I'm quite free next days so I can go to my backlog of reviews | 15:29 |
| jgu | that'd be great. The python persister impl now also has the smart batching feature that has potential to get similar performance as Java. We will test that out once Java performance testing is finished (only one test environment) | 15:30 |
| witek | sc: would be great | 15:30 |
| jgu | sc and witek: thanks in advance! | 15:30 |
| witek | are you updating the performance results somewhere? | 15:30 |
| tobiajo | congrats :)! good work | 15:31 |
| jgu | where would be a good place to put the ifnal performanc enumber? | 15:31 |
| jgu | tobiajo: thanks | 15:31 |
| witek | you had that etherpad, I think that's OK for now | 15:32 |
| witek | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cassandra_monasca | 15:32 |
| jgu | sounds good. We'll refresh that etherpad and reposted the link in the IRC once it's done | 15:33 |
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| witek | thanks | 15:33 |
| tobiajo | a little off topic: would performance have it place on docs.openstack.org/monasca-api ? | 15:33 |
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| witek | could be, but there are more basic things missing there right now :( | 15:34 |
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| witek | like installation, configuration, usage | 15:35 |
| witek | do we have anything else for today? | 15:36 |
| jgu | should we have a wiki for performance and tuning? | 15:37 |
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| witek | yes, wiki would probably be better than d.o.o | 15:37 |
| tobiajo | does other OS projects have that? | 15:37 |
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| witek | tobiajo: I don't know, have to check | 15:38 |
| jgu | what is d.o.o? | 15:38 |
| witek | docs.openstack.org | 15:38 |
| jgu | got it | 15:38 |
| witek | btw. the wiki page needs a clean-up | 15:38 |
| witek | and also, do we want to maintain both? | 15:39 |
| sc | sorry, I don't understand your question? | 15:39 |
| witek | do we want to maintain wiki and docs.openstack.org? | 15:40 |
| tobiajo | d.o.o and wiki? | 15:40 |
| jgu | I don't find Monasca on the https://docs.openstack.org/pike/projects.html | 15:40 |
| witek | or should we rather deprecate wiki, and use d.o.o only | 15:40 |
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| sc | witek: I think that users are more likly going to docs.o.o | 15:40 |
| tobiajo | i don't see any reason to have both | 15:41 |
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| witek | jgu: I can add it, there is just not much info there till now | 15:41 |
| jgu | I agree with sc. d.o.o is more end user facing | 15:41 |
| sc | wiki is for tips and tricks, user provided documentation (that deployment we forgot)... | 15:42 |
| witek | I also would prefer to have d.o.o in good shape and remove most of information from wiki | 15:43 |
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| witek | Is there anyone interested on working on documentation? | 15:45 |
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| witek | I could start with defining the tasks | 15:45 |
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| witek | so coming back to the origin question, yes we could probably add performance section as well | 15:47 |
| jgu | sure. I am generally no good/help at documentation but I'll check out the task list you are going to create and see if I can help some. | 15:48 |
| sc | writing docs is a nighmare, we have to have docs but ... could we autogenerated from docstrigns? ;-) | 15:48 |
| witek | for api-ref possibly yes | 15:48 |
| witek | there is also that change for python client: | 15:49 |
| witek | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/511341/ | 15:50 |
| witek | click on build-openstack-sphinx-docs job output to see the rendered docs | 15:50 |
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| witek | if there is nothing else, I think we can close the meeting | 15:52 |
| witek | please think about PTG and the google form | 15:53 |
| joadavis | I'll add a quick status on monasca-ceilometer. After the Zuul v3 update we found the gates failed even on some simple changes. Disabled the requirements-check gate (was tripping on a git+https reference for pulling in ceilometer) and now I'm working on bringing the code up to date with Ceilometer Pike. The intent is to get in sync before submitting the publisher to Ceilometer, an action item that came out of the Monasca | 15:53 |
| joadavis | eens mid-cycle. | 15:53 |
| witek | bye, see you next week | 15:53 |
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| witek | joadavis: ok, thanks | 15:54 |
| witek | so, are zuul jobs working now? | 15:54 |
| witek | for monasca-ceilometer? | 15:55 |
| joadavis | There is a pending commit that needs a +2, but that gets around the issue. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/518414/ And a change was put in the upstream project config that made it possible. | 15:56 |
| witek | ok, adding myself to review | 15:57 |
| joadavis | Thanks. :) | 15:57 |
| witek | thank you everyone | 15:57 |
| witek | bye | 15:58 |
| haruki | thank you | 15:58 |
| joadavis | bye | 15:58 |
| cbellucci | bye | 15:58 |
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| tobiajo | bye | 15:58 |
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| witek | #endmeeting | 15:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:58 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 29 15:58:27 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2017/monasca.2017-11-29-15.00.html | 15:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2017/monasca.2017-11-29-15.00.txt | 15:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2017/monasca.2017-11-29-15.00.log.html | 15:58 |
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| tobiajo | witek: thanks for the help | 15:58 |
| witek | tobiajo: sorry, it took that long :) | 15:59 |
| jgu | thanks, b ye | 15:59 |
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| eglute | #startmeeting interopwg | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 29 16:01:48 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is eglute. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'interopwg' | 16:01 |
| markvoelker | o/ | 16:01 |
| dims | o/ | 16:02 |
| eglute | #chair markvoelker hogepodge | 16:02 |
| openstack | Current chairs: eglute hogepodge markvoelker | 16:02 |
| eglute | #topic agenda | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:02 | |
| eglute | Hello everyone! | 16:02 |
| georgk | hi | 16:02 |
| eglute | Here is today's agenda: #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropVertigo.21 | 16:02 |
| hogepodge | hi | 16:02 |
| mguiney | o/ | 16:03 |
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| eglute | I will be traveling next week, Dec 6-13, so I won't be able to make next two meetings. I hope markvoelker and hogepodge will be able to cover, as it turns out i will be traveling during meeting time | 16:03 |
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| markvoelker | I should be here. | 16:04 |
| eglute | thanks markvoelker | 16:04 |
| eglute | #topic cycle name | 16:04 |
| hogepodge | I'll be traveling next week, and unavailable on Wednesday. | 16:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "cycle name (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:04 | |
| hogepodge | I'll also be on vacation for the remainder of the month of December, so again unavailable. | 16:04 |
| eglute | Everyone, please enter your suggestion for new cycle name and vote for your top choice | 16:04 |
| eglute | we will select the name at the end of this meeting | 16:04 |
| eglute | #topic Vertical Program Update | 16:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Vertical Program Update (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:05 | |
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| eglute | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/519732/ | 16:05 |
| eglute | not sure if georgk is around | 16:05 |
| georgk | I am | 16:05 |
| eglute | thank you georgk for all the patches | 16:05 |
| eglute | they look good to me, but i am not NFV expert | 16:06 |
| georgk | so, this patchset now includes initial scoring for the trunk port feature + the candidates from the etherpad | 16:06 |
| eglute | so we really need everyone else to look at this as well | 16:06 |
| eglute | thank you georgk | 16:06 |
| georgk | I also added a few more candidates | 16:06 |
| eglute | they look great | 16:06 |
| eglute | if everyone else will review them, we can merge it soon | 16:07 |
| georgk | yes, feedback is very welcome | 16:07 |
| eglute | georgk you added some notes to etherpad- does that mean you will score additional capabilities? | 16:07 |
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| georgk | yes, I wanted to move on to other capabilities as well | 16:08 |
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| georgk | I looked at networking-bgp, but there are some issues with the tempest tests | 16:08 |
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| eglute | ok, does that mean you won't be adding those? | 16:09 |
| georgk | question is if I should add this to the current patch or to a separate | 16:09 |
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| georgk | I prefer a separate one - just to keep things apart | 16:10 |
| eglute | i think that will work | 16:10 |
| georgk | or rather clearly separated | 16:10 |
| eglute | do you need us to merge this one first? | 16:10 |
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| markvoelker | LEt's do separate. Some of the others are going to be more controversial I think (like bgpvpn) | 16:10 |
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| georgk | well, please review it of course, I can create a dependent patch | 16:10 |
| mguiney | o7 | 16:11 |
| eglute | sounds good georgk | 16:11 |
| eglute | o8 | 16:11 |
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| eglute | georgk also you have a comment about scenario tests | 16:11 |
| georgk | yes. what is the policy here? do we typically only include API tests | 16:12 |
| eglute | we dont have any capabilities right now that use scenario tests | 16:12 |
| georgk | the background is that the API tests of the networkiing-bgp projects do not cover simple things like listing or showing stuff | 16:13 |
| markvoelker | For the vertical programs I think some scenario tests may be appropriate. | 16:13 |
| georgk | howwver, the scenario tests are more evolved | 16:13 |
| eglute | i am ok with including scenario tests for vertical programs | 16:14 |
| georgk | I reached out to the project to discuss if they can close the test gap | 16:14 |
| georgk | no reply yet :-) | 16:14 |
| markvoelker | That is to say: I would not exclude scenario tests from consideration. The main difficulty is that they often test multiple capabilities, so you have to be a little careful... | 16:14 |
| eglute | markvoelker that would be my main concern as well | 16:14 |
| markvoelker | E.g. if it tests something that we're not proposing for the Guideline, passing the test means we've implicitly required more capabilities than the guideline lists. | 16:15 |
| markvoelker | So, I'd say it's fine to propose them, we just need to do good due dilligence on them before approving. | 16:15 |
| georgk | yes, because of these reasons I´d like to explain the background of the interop tests and check if they can implement separate tests for the simple capabilities | 16:15 |
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| markvoelker | That sounds fine to me. Do you have specific tests you're considering now? We can dig into those a bit to see if any are ok if so.... | 16:18 |
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| georgk | markvoelker: scenario or api tests? | 16:18 |
| markvoelker | Either that exist today. =) E.g. if there are scenario tests today we can look at them and see if they're testing anything outside of what's be proposed for inclusion. | 16:19 |
| georgk | ok, I´ll do another round of review of the test cases and then send out my results by email. | 16:20 |
| georgk | is that ok? | 16:20 |
| eglute | that would be great georgk | 16:21 |
| eglute | thank you | 16:21 |
| markvoelker | ++ | 16:21 |
| georgk | ok, will do | 16:21 |
| eglute | thanks! anything else on this topic? | 16:21 |
| markvoelker | In other related news, I've been picking at some stuff around EPA support and Aodh this week while tracking down some problems in a lab. Should have a patch up soonish for those. | 16:22 |
| eglute | tell us more markvoelker | 16:22 |
| eglute | what is this for? | 16:22 |
| markvoelker | For the NFV vertical program | 16:22 |
| markvoelker | We'd cited those as candidates for the first release | 16:23 |
| markvoelker | I'm actually poking at some neutron QoS things too but I'll defer those for a later release I think. | 16:23 |
| kgarloff | So we'll have aodh covered in the NFV program? | 16:23 |
| eglute | sounds good markvoelker thank you | 16:24 |
| markvoelker | kgarloff: Well, at least we'll do a scoring exercise to see if anything merits inclusion. | 16:24 |
| kgarloff | markvoelker: great | 16:24 |
| georgk | one comment: in Denver, we said that the heat program is a candidate for a later point in time | 16:24 |
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| georgk | based on the fact that heat is used quite extensively in NFV, I was wondering if we should consider this also for inclusion | 16:24 |
| kgarloff | georgk: heat was discussed to be an addon program for platform ... should it be in NFV-base? | 16:25 |
| georgk | yes, like making the heat add-on also a component of the NFV program | 16:26 |
| markvoelker | georgk: I think the main rationale for waiting on it was twofold: 1.) we were going to work on Heat as an add-on program first, and 2.) there's some limbo around tests for Heat right now while the TC sorts out opinions on where to put tests...they'd been asked int he past to move them into tempest, now that may not be as much a thing (or it yet might) | 16:26 |
| markvoelker | So basically, I think the idea was to get an add-on program built for Heat and then make that part of the NFV vertical. | 16:26 |
| georgk | markvoelker: ok, fine with me | 16:27 |
| markvoelker | Nothing stopping us from doing them separately though, if we want...just seemed a bit duplicitous. =) | 16:27 |
| kgarloff | We see significant heat usage on our public cloud (outside of NFV), so I agree that heat matters | 16:27 |
| georgk | ok, so one thing at a time. sounds reasonable | 16:28 |
| eglute | ok, anything else on this topic? | 16:29 |
| eglute | #topic Microversions | 16:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Microversions (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:29 | |
| eglute | hogepodge any updates? | 16:29 |
| hogepodge | eglute: none, this work is stalled out with me prepping for the summit and KubeCon | 16:30 |
| eglute | cool, no worries | 16:30 |
| eglute | #topic 2018.02 guideline | 16:30 |
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| eglute | markvoelker i think neutron is the only one missing | 16:30 |
| markvoelker | Hah...got so wrapped up in the NFV stuff that I forgot to deal with that over Thanksgiving. =) Ok, I'll add that to my queue for this week. | 16:31 |
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| markvoelker | I'm actually not sure I'll end up proposing anything though. | 16:31 |
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| eglute | markvoelker thank you! yeah, if you confirm no changes that works too | 16:31 |
| markvoelker | (other than cleaning up the comments in the working doc about subnet pools since we actually added those) | 16:32 |
| eglute | anything on the next guideline? | 16:32 |
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| eglute | cool | 16:33 |
| eglute | there is a board meeting next week | 16:33 |
| eglute | i will inform the board that the next guideline will be in february | 16:33 |
| eglute | if there are any other updates i should announce, let me know | 16:33 |
| eglute | #topic Add-on programs | 16:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Add-on programs (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:33 | |
| eglute | so there is a patch to add tc:approved release tag for designate https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521587/ | 16:34 |
| eglute | last meeting we ran out of time to fully discuss this | 16:35 |
| mugsie | it is a simple step for the trademark program to actually add designate - the TC has to have blessed it | 16:36 |
| mugsie | the other programs that were on the add on list were already in that tag afaik | 16:36 |
| * markvoelker is happy to see this and expects the measure to pass | 16:37 | |
| eglute | +1 | 16:37 |
| eglute | any other comments on the add on programs? | 16:37 |
| eglute | there is also a testing patch: | 16:38 |
| eglute | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521602/ | 16:38 |
| eglute | thanks markvoelker for commenting on it | 16:38 |
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| eglute | that one seems to be more for TC to decide | 16:39 |
| markvoelker | Others feel free to chip in too...the TC seems a bit divided on this at the moment, so your opinions and explanations of how things work in practice would be welcome I'm sure. | 16:40 |
| eglute | ok i will respond later today, but i am in agreement with you | 16:40 |
| mugsie | yeah, we had some discussion in the RefStack meeting yesterday as well | 16:40 |
| eglute | i need to re-read all the comments again | 16:40 |
| mugsie | my problem is some programs relying on a different interface, and the potential for breakage | 16:40 |
| eglute | mugsie what was the consensus in the refstack meeting? | 16:41 |
| mugsie | along with the need for increased review quality | 16:41 |
| mugsie | eglute: none :( | 16:41 |
| markvoelker | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2017/refstack.2017-11-28-17.02.html Refstack meeting logs | 16:41 |
| eglute | ok... I will respond to that patch. thank you markvoelker | 16:42 |
| tosky | during the meeting I pointed out that the breakage that happened in the past (which was reverted) was more an exception | 16:42 |
| eglute | ok | 16:42 |
| eglute | as for the proposed patch, i am ok with #2 or #3, I always liked #3 | 16:43 |
| eglute | everyone, please review and comment #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521602/ | 16:44 |
| eglute | any other discussion about it here? | 16:44 |
| mugsie | eglute: what would your pushback for #1 be? | 16:45 |
| markvoelker | I am a little interested in how the mechanics would play out for keeping things in a central repo, but I can comment on that once I get caught up with all the comments from while I was away | 16:45 |
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| eglute | mugsie i think having only option #1 is limiting. I think we should be a bit more flexible when it comes to test location. If a project has all its tests in a separate plugin already, making them move seems to be busy work | 16:48 |
| eglute | but i need to catch up with all the comments as well | 16:48 |
| mugsie | cool - I have a feeling this one will drag out a bit | 16:48 |
| eglute | thank you for proposing the patch, I think it is great discussion and was much needed | 16:50 |
| markvoelker | There have also been some concerns raised in the past about whether things like add-on programs were really "in scope" for tempest and whether QA would be able to handle all these tests...I think Andrea voiced those concerns in the review IIRC. | 16:50 |
| tosky | that's the reason why tests for non-"core" components moved outside tempest.git | 16:50 |
| mugsie | markvoelker: "in scope" for tempest is something that can be changed | 16:50 |
| markvoelker | Sure, but reviewer bandwidth is more difficult to change. =) | 16:51 |
| mugsie | it is 6 tests from us, I am not sure how many tests heat have but I cannot imagine it is huge | 16:51 |
| mugsie | but, the discussion should be on the patch, so we have it recorded :) | 16:51 |
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| markvoelker | ++ | 16:51 |
| eglute | ++ | 16:52 |
| eglute | everyone, please comment on the patch | 16:52 |
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| eglute | if nothing else on this, we can return to the hardest problem of all | 16:52 |
| eglute | naming | 16:52 |
| eglute | #cycle name | 16:52 |
| eglute | #topic cycle name | 16:52 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "cycle name (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:52 | |
| hogepodge | The one hardest problem, naming things and off-by-one errors | 16:53 |
| eglute | reminder, this is just for interop cycle name and really only affects the name of ehterpad mostly :) | 16:53 |
| eglute | we have 5 suggestions right now | 16:53 |
| eglute | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropVertigo.21 | 16:53 |
| eglute | please everyone add your votes | 16:54 |
| eglute | right now Whistler is winning by 50% | 16:54 |
| georgk | :-) | 16:54 |
| eglute | ok, if no other votes, whistler it is! | 16:55 |
| eglute | #topic open agenda | 16:55 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open agenda (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:55 | |
| eglute | we still have 5 minutes, anything else that we need to discuss? | 16:55 |
| markvoelker | Quick note on PTG for those who didn't see it: https://twitter.com/tcarrez/status/935798883468431362 | 16:56 |
| eglute | is that a soccer stadium? | 16:56 |
| kgarloff | Whaoh! | 16:56 |
| markvoelker | More rugby nowadays, I think? But yeah. | 16:57 |
| hogepodge | Please let me know if you plan on attending. | 16:57 |
| mugsie | eglute: I wouldn't call it a soccer stadium when you are here ;) | 16:57 |
| eglute | mugsie yes, i grew up playing soccer | 16:57 |
| mugsie | It is a gealic football stadium | 16:57 |
| hogepodge | I have to respond to the PTG survey requesting resources. General head count and time needed. | 16:57 |
| eglute | mugsie i mean football | 16:57 |
| markvoelker | hogepodge: I'm planning to be there. | 16:57 |
| kgarloff | Nice for us Europeans | 16:57 |
| mugsie | It is a cool venue | 16:58 |
| markvoelker | And will be happy to use a friendly game of football or rugby to settle tie votes... | 16:58 |
| eglute | i think i will too. | 16:58 |
| eglute | thanks everyone! | 16:58 |
| eglute | #endmeeting | 16:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 29 16:58:41 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interopwg/2017/interopwg.2017-11-29-16.01.html | 16:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interopwg/2017/interopwg.2017-11-29-16.01.txt | 16:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interopwg/2017/interopwg.2017-11-29-16.01.log.html | 16:58 |
| mguiney | have a good week! | 16:59 |
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| ying_zuo | #startmeeting horizon | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 29 20:00:29 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ying_zuo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 20:00 |
| ying_zuo | Hi everyone o/ | 20:00 |
| rdopiera | o/ | 20:00 |
| e0ne | hi | 20:00 |
| ying_zuo | #topic Queens-2 milestone | 20:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Queens-2 milestone (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:01 | |
| ying_zuo | I plan to tag the release next Tuesday or Wednesday | 20:01 |
| ying_zuo | here are the tickets planned for this milestone | 20:02 |
| ying_zuo | #link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/queens-2 | 20:02 |
| ying_zuo | #topic Fetch resources in parallel discussion (again) (e0ne) | 20:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Fetch resources in parallel discussion (again) (e0ne) (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:03 | |
| e0ne | I want to get some feedback on this proposal | 20:03 |
| e0ne | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-October/124129.html | 20:03 |
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| e0ne | there're number of patches on the review and some are already merged | 20:04 |
| e0ne | but we still don't have a decision how to go forward this futurist | 20:04 |
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| ying_zuo | are we discussing about a specific patch? | 20:06 |
| e0ne | ying_zuo: you can find patches in scope of https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/fetch-resources-in-parallel | 20:07 |
| e0ne | but we need a general agreement how to deal with futurist in horizon | 20:07 |
| rdopiera | e0ne: what I'm concerned with is how this works with the web servers, such as apache, which do their own thread management | 20:08 |
| e0ne | rdopiera: for now, we use python threads and allow them in mod_wsgi config | 20:08 |
| e0ne | rdopiera: my proposal is to use greenthreads instead | 20:08 |
| rdopiera | e0ne: you don't need stackless python for that? | 20:09 |
| e0ne | rdopiera: no, just eventlet + futurist(it's already in our requirements.txt) | 20:09 |
| ying_zuo | amotoki asked for the performance data on the patch/blueprint https://review.openstack.org/#/c/426493/ | 20:10 |
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| e0ne | ying_zuo: there are performance testing results in my email | 20:11 |
| e0ne | amotoki asked it before I sent a message to openstack-dev | 20:11 |
| ying_zuo | I see. can you reply there with the link? | 20:11 |
| e0ne | #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14zDpdkPUfGDR_ZycaGUoT64kHsGi1gL9JOha8n5PVeg/edit?usp=sharing | 20:12 |
| e0ne | I added the link ^^ to the blueprint | 20:12 |
| amotoki | hi | 20:14 |
| amotoki | , i succeeded to wake up earlier | 20:14 |
| amotoki | e0ne: do you have some data without futurist too? | 20:14 |
| ying_zuo | good morning :) | 20:14 |
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| e0ne | amotoki: good morning! I hope, you enjoyed your morning coffee | 20:15 |
| e0ne | amotoki: no, why do we need it? | 20:15 |
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| e0ne | amotoki: futurist just a wrapper over threading libraries | 20:15 |
| amotoki | in my understandng, we first need to discuss futurist (or parallel loading) is needed or not. | 20:16 |
| e0ne | amotoki: I hope, everybody agrees that parallel API calls are better for our case | 20:16 |
| amotoki | even though it speed up loading time per user, i am not sure how this affect totally. | 20:17 |
| e0ne | amotoki: I don't get your point | 20:17 |
| amotoki | in general, web server serves several requests in parallel. | 20:17 |
| cshen_ | do we have benchmark for the current used libraries? | 20:18 |
| amotoki | total throughput and response time per request is a different thing. | 20:18 |
| e0ne | cshen_: yes, there as a link above | 20:18 |
| amotoki | i am wondering futurist introduces how much additional overhead. | 20:19 |
| rdopiera | if I remember correctly, we started the whole AngularJS rewrite to get parallel requests | 20:19 |
| e0ne | amotoki: there is almost no overhead for horizon | 20:19 |
| e0ne | rdopiera: yes, but I propose to speed-up our server-side code too | 20:20 |
| rdopiera | e0ne: sure | 20:20 |
| ying_zuo | it would be good to get some data on how much performance gain this will give | 20:21 |
| e0ne | #links https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/04894a0858adda0ae161d9ac1f1a8da017ba1c74/openstack_dashboard/dashboards/project/instances/views.py#L122 | 20:21 |
| e0ne | ^^ that's how we use futurist now | 20:21 |
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| amotoki | okay, so have we agreed introducing parallel loading using futurist as a baseline? | 20:21 |
| e0ne | @ying_zuo: did you see my spreadsheet with tests results? | 20:22 |
| cshen_ | e0ne, how many API calls were in your benchmark? | 20:22 |
| e0ne | amotoki: I hope so,,, | 20:22 |
| amotoki | anyway some baseline performance data (without parallel loading) would be useful | 20:22 |
| rdopiera | I wonder if we should have settings like max_workers exposed in the settings, instead of hardcoded... | 20:22 |
| ying_zuo | eone: yes, I mean compare with without parallel | 20:22 |
| rdopiera | in particular, to give the admins the ability to limit or even disable parallel loading | 20:23 |
| e0ne | cshen_: it was 3 API calls | 20:23 |
| amotoki | rdopiera: are talking about max_workers of ThreadPoolExecutor ? | 20:23 |
| e0ne | rdopiera: I still doesn't understand why do we need to have this configurable | 20:24 |
| rdopiera | amotoki: I'm not sure about how that particular option works, I'm thinkning about the ability to limit the number of concurrent requests, not sure how we would do it exactly | 20:24 |
| e0ne | ying_zuo: I don't have such data now, but I'm sure it will be slower (I did some testing in the past) | 20:25 |
| rdopiera | e0ne: with certain networks settings you don't want to have too many transfers at once | 20:25 |
| rdopiera | e0ne: that is also why web browsers only fetch up to 4 resources at a time | 20:26 |
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| e0ne | rdopiera: it's not true for current web browsers | 20:26 |
| rdopiera | e0ne: the option is there | 20:26 |
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| e0ne | rdopiera: seriously, if your production network and APIs don't allow 3-4 request in parallel, it's not a problem of horizon | 20:27 |
| rdopiera | e0ne: seriously, if horizon doesn't work at customer's site and there is no option to make it work, it is a problem of Horizon | 20:28 |
| e0ne | I can't argue | 20:28 |
| rdopiera | e0ne: you are making assumptions about how horizon is being used that are not necessarily true | 20:28 |
| e0ne | rdopiera: I agree | 20:29 |
| rdopiera | I'm also thinking that the ability to limit it to 1 request at a time may be useful to help debug race conditions | 20:29 |
| e0ne | good point | 20:29 |
| rdopiera | espceially when there are multiple requests to the same service | 20:30 |
| rdopiera | or to services that use the same resource | 20:30 |
| e0ne | but we won't have race conditions with only 1 request | 20:30 |
| rdopiera | exactly -- so if the problem goes away when you limit it to 1 request, you know it's a race condition :) | 20:30 |
| e0ne | :) | 20:31 |
| rdopiera | so far most use cases are for reading, so it's not very risky | 20:31 |
| rdopiera | but we might at some point also use it for requests that modify data | 20:31 |
| ying_zuo | so we should make that configurable | 20:32 |
| ying_zuo | anything else on this topic? | 20:32 |
| e0ne | ying_zuo: do we have any decision on this topic? | 20:33 |
| ying_zuo | ThreadPoolExecutor is being used in horizon now, do you want to change it to something else? | 20:33 |
| amotoki | i am not sure max_workers=1 and serial API calls are same or not. Does max_workers=1 create one new thread? | 20:34 |
| e0ne | amotoki: in a current case - yes | 20:34 |
| e0ne | I mean with futurist | 20:34 |
| amotoki | in such case, does futurist execute each submit() one by one in a single worker? | 20:35 |
| e0ne | it does, AFAIR | 20:36 |
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| amotoki | thanks | 20:37 |
| e0ne | np | 20:38 |
| amotoki | regarding ying_zuo's question, I am not sure which is betetr ThreadPoolExecutor or GreenThreadExecutor | 20:39 |
| e0ne | I prefer GreenThreadExecutor | 20:40 |
| e0ne | it's faster and doesn't require additional webserver configuration | 20:41 |
| rdopiera | it also uses less memory | 20:41 |
| e0ne | ying_zuo: I propose to switch to GreenThreadExecutor | 20:41 |
| e0ne | rdopiera: +1 | 20:41 |
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| rdopiera | however, it does monkey-patch the system functions, iirc | 20:42 |
| rdopiera | to add greenthread support to them | 20:42 |
| amotoki | yes, eventlet assumes related modules are monkey-patched. | 20:42 |
| rdopiera | but I think it has been around long enough for most bugs to be shaken out | 20:43 |
| e0ne | rdopiera: +1 | 20:43 |
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| ying_zuo | e0ne: please update the blueprint for your proposal | 20:44 |
| e0ne | ying_zuo: ok, I'll do | 20:44 |
| ying_zuo | thanks. we can continue the discussion there | 20:44 |
| ying_zuo | #topic Merge openstack-auth (amotoki) | 20:45 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Merge openstack-auth (amotoki) (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:45 | |
| e0ne | ying_zuo: thanks | 20:45 |
| ying_zuo | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/merge-openstack-auth | 20:45 |
| ying_zuo | #info Upgrade issue of openstack_auth in pip environment | 20:45 |
| ying_zuo | here's some information from amotoki: | 20:45 |
| ying_zuo | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/AaEbFVsG/ | 20:45 |
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| amotoki | it only affects operators who use pip directly to install horizon. | 20:46 |
| ying_zuo | would be good to have this information on the release note | 20:47 |
| amotoki | perhaps it does not affect distro users. venv/container users are not affected too | 20:47 |
| amotoki | i assume most operators with venv replaces venv when upgrading :) | 20:48 |
| rdopiera | the whole change also affects packagers | 20:48 |
| rdopiera | I propose to let them know about such changes in the future, as they might not be following everything all the time | 20:48 |
| e0ne | rdopiera: +1 | 20:49 |
| ying_zuo | there was an email a while back | 20:49 |
| rdopiera | I missed it completely and so did zigo | 20:49 |
| rdopiera | it's our fault, of course | 20:50 |
| ying_zuo | release note will be a good place for this :) | 20:50 |
| zigo | rdopiera: Missed what? | 20:50 |
| zigo | Merge of openstack-auth ? | 20:50 |
| rdopiera | zigo: the merging of openstack-auth | 20:50 |
| rdopiera | yeah | 20:50 |
| zigo | Right. | 20:50 |
| zigo | I'm fine with it, really. | 20:50 |
| zigo | One less package to maintain ! :) | 20:50 |
| rdopiera | yeah, it's just the kind of change that would be nice to be coordinated | 20:50 |
| amotoki | the mail was http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-July/119731.html | 20:51 |
| rdopiera | ok, that is exactly the kind of information that I meant, I withdraw my statement | 20:51 |
| zigo | What concerns me more is django 2.x, Horizon IMO needs to support that ASAP. | 20:51 |
| rdopiera | it's my fault I missed it | 20:51 |
| e0ne | zigo: I think, we can start work on if right after release | 20:52 |
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| zigo | e0ne: That's already too late for Debian at least. | 20:52 |
| e0ne | :( | 20:52 |
| zigo | I'm not sure when, but "soon" django 2.x will replace 1.11 in Sid. When this happens, horizon wont work anymore in Debian. | 20:53 |
| amotoki | but isn't django 2.x released yet? | 20:53 |
| e0ne | I didn't test horizon with django2.0 | 20:53 |
| e0ne | amotoki: it's not released yet | 20:53 |
| e0ne | zigo: oh.. it will be painfull for anybody who doesn't support python3 and django 2.0+ | 20:54 |
| e0ne | 5mins reminder | 20:55 |
| zigo | There's the rc1 already. | 20:55 |
| ying_zuo | I thought django 1.11 is LTS so we are good for a while | 20:55 |
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| e0ne | I thinks, it's a good idea to add non-voting job with django 2.0 | 20:55 |
| amotoki | Doesn't Debian give django app maintainers time to catch up their apps after the release? | 20:55 |
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| cshen_ | django 2.0 seems to be not a LTS version. | 20:56 |
| ying_zuo | we will need a blueprint and a volunteer | 20:57 |
| e0ne | ying_zuo: you're right, 1.11 will be supported until 2020 | 20:57 |
| e0ne | ying_zuo: I'll file a blueprint and propose a patch with non-voting job | 20:57 |
| e0ne | cshen_: +1 | 20:57 |
| amotoki | https://www.djangoproject.com/weblog/2015/jun/25/roadmap/ | 20:57 |
| e0ne | #link https://www.djangoproject.com/weblog/2015/jun/25/roadmap/ | 20:57 |
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| ying_zuo | :) | 20:58 |
| cshen_ | django 2.2 will be a LTS version, which is scheduled to be released in 2019. | 20:58 |
| amotoki | returning back to django-openstack-auth topic, I need volunteers to finish remaining works | 20:58 |
| e0ne | robcresswell: are you around? :) | 20:58 |
| amotoki | there are a lot of remaining works out side of horizon repos. | 20:58 |
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| amotoki | requirements, devstack, project-config...... | 20:59 |
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| e0ne | unfortunately, I don't have time for it:(. there are still some bugs in my queue | 20:59 |
| rdopiera | I'm finishing up with downstream pike, hopefully should have some time now | 21:00 |
| ying_zuo | we are running out of time. If anyone has some bandwidth, please pick up the todos in the blueprint | 21:00 |
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| ying_zuo | thanks everyone for joining | 21:00 |
| amotoki | i am not sure i have covered all items..... cross-check is required | 21:00 |
| ying_zuo | #endmeeting | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 29 21:00:49 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2017/horizon.2017-11-29-20.00.html | 21:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2017/horizon.2017-11-29-20.00.txt | 21:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2017/horizon.2017-11-29-20.00.log.html | 21:00 |
| dansmith | #startmeeting nova_cells | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 29 21:00:54 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dansmith. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova_cells)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_cells' | 21:00 |
| e0ne | rdopiera: the same for me. we're working on downstream pike too :) | 21:00 |
| mriedem | o/ | 21:01 |
| tssurya_ | o/ | 21:01 |
| melwitt | o/ | 21:01 |
| dansmith | #topic bugs | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: nova_cells)" | 21:01 | |
| dansmith | so, belmiro reported an issue recently, | 21:01 |
| dansmith | although not via a bug | 21:01 |
| dansmith | and I put up a patch: | 21:01 |
| dansmith | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/523187/ | 21:01 |
| mriedem | ah i was going to ask for a recap of this | 21:01 |
| dansmith | he said that worked for him, so I probably need to get him to file a bug and then clean that up so we can merge/backport it | 21:01 |
| dansmith | I guess we can't really send it back to newton, although that's where he wants it | 21:02 |
| mriedem | this is also specific to how he's doing the api db setup per child cell yes? | 21:02 |
| dansmith | yes, although this is the right thing to be doing anyway I think | 21:02 |
| tssurya_ | mriedem : yes | 21:02 |
| mriedem | so we're deleting the build request here so that it doesn't get confused at the top when listing instances? | 21:03 |
| dansmith | yeah | 21:03 |
| dansmith | otherwise it obscures looking for the real instance | 21:03 |
| dansmith | since the mere presence means "don't even look for an instance" | 21:03 |
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| mriedem | and if you're doing global placement with a single api db, we'd likely get the build request not found, which we ignore | 21:03 |
| mriedem | i know nectar said they are doing global placement, not per child cell | 21:04 |
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| dansmith | right, because the compute api in the lower cell would have already done it | 21:04 |
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| mriedem | ok | 21:04 |
| dansmith | yeah and I don't think godaddy was far enough along to have thought through this | 21:04 |
| mriedem | godaddy was waiting to see how everyone else (2 of them) had done it | 21:04 |
| dansmith | I dunno how many cells they have, but I'm kinda assuming they're somewhere between cern and nectar in terms of numbers | 21:04 |
| dansmith | heh, so that worked out well for them | 21:04 |
| dansmith | two examples, two answers | 21:04 |
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| mriedem | i was also going to ask if we were going to push patches up for the issues cern runs it, so i'm happy to see we are | 21:05 |
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| dansmith | yeah, I think we should for sure | 21:05 |
| mriedem | i figured we'd at least need somewhere/somethign to track patches people need to transition from v1 to v2 | 21:05 |
| dansmith | I'd rather it be integrated when and where possible | 21:05 |
| dansmith | so I assume you're cool with this back to ocata but not newton? | 21:05 |
| mriedem | tssurya_: can you follow up with belmiro to open a bug? | 21:05 |
| mriedem | dansmith: yeah | 21:05 |
| tssurya_ | mriedem : yes of course | 21:06 |
| dansmith | tssurya_: and just comment on the patch with the bug number or something | 21:06 |
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| dansmith | tssurya_: you could open it too, doesn't have to be belmiro | 21:06 |
| tssurya_ | dansmith : yes , I will follow this up | 21:06 |
| dansmith | cool, thanks | 21:06 |
| dansmith | anything else on this or other bugs? | 21:06 |
| tssurya_ | not from me | 21:07 |
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| mriedem | i don't have any bugs in mind | 21:07 |
| dansmith | #topic open reviews | 21:07 |
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| dansmith | so the big one still open here is ed's alternates patches, | 21:07 |
| dansmith | which I honestly haven't looked at much since sydney for various reasons | 21:07 |
| dansmith | some good reasons, so not so good ones | 21:07 |
| mriedem | i made it about halfway, | 21:08 |
| melwitt | same, it's on my todo for today or tomorrow | 21:08 |
| dansmith | there's also melwitt's fixtures cleanup, which I think I have uncommitted comments on, | 21:08 |
| mriedem | jay was -1 on something in the middle so thta's where i stopped b/c ed was on vacation | 21:08 |
| dansmith | yeah | 21:08 |
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| dansmith | any other open reviews we need to be highlighting here? | 21:09 |
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| mriedem | kinda | 21:09 |
| mriedem | just a mention of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/517273/25 | 21:09 |
| mriedem | i brought this up the other night, | 21:09 |
| mriedem | paging migrations across cells, | 21:09 |
| dansmith | oh right | 21:09 |
| dansmith | ugh | 21:09 |
| mriedem | he changed it from PS21 to PS25, | 21:09 |
| mriedem | and he's moving in what i think is the right direction, just in the wrong way | 21:09 |
| melwitt | I have a patch up to remove old quotas code, not directly related to cells but related to the quota changes from last cycle https://review.openstack.org/511689 | 21:09 |
| mriedem | so i've dumped more comments in there, | 21:09 |
| mriedem | i think he basically wants to page like we used to do for instances, and then just simple merge sort the results at the end | 21:09 |
| mriedem | no scatter/gather fanciness | 21:10 |
| dansmith | the scatter gather is easier than doing it manually because it handles iterating cells for you | 21:10 |
| dansmith | and does it in parallel, so not sure there's any benefit if you're going to merge at the end | 21:10 |
| mriedem | the other night when i brought this up, | 21:11 |
| mriedem | you seemed to agree that we didn't need the overhead of the stuff used for instance_list.py | 21:11 |
| dansmith | yeah, right, but the scatter/gather thing is not instance_list, | 21:11 |
| dansmith | it's just the bit in context.py which iterates cells for you | 21:11 |
| dansmith | maybe we're confusing terminology | 21:12 |
| dansmith | he _should_ use the context.scatter_gather_all_cells() thing | 21:12 |
| mriedem | he's using scatter/gather to find the cell that the marker is in | 21:12 |
| mriedem | and then iterating the cells starting at that cell, i think | 21:12 |
| mriedem | not even probably, which is another issue here | 21:12 |
| dansmith | not sure why that helps really | 21:12 |
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| dansmith | also, since this is new, we could do something smarter about the marker id so we can avoid doing the two-stage marker lookup right? | 21:13 |
| mriedem | like, encode the cell id in the marker? | 21:13 |
| dansmith | yeah | 21:13 |
| mriedem | we could, | 21:14 |
| mriedem | that means some custom marker/paging code in the rest api handler, which is different from how everything else builds the next links | 21:14 |
| dansmith | or include a next-page: <url> thing in the response and you just call that, so we can change it over time | 21:14 |
| dansmith | yep, indeed | 21:14 |
| dansmith | anyway, if we don't change that, then he just has to look up the marker and do the thing, but I would scatter both times, personally | 21:15 |
| dansmith | no reason not to | 21:15 |
| mriedem | i have to say, | 21:15 |
| dansmith | you wish for death? | 21:15 |
| dansmith | yeah me too | 21:15 |
| mriedem | i'm a bit confused on how we'd get the marker correct once the results are sorted, but i haven't thought through it all | 21:16 |
| mriedem | like i know this is working for instances | 21:16 |
| dansmith | well, you still have to do the local marker thing per cell | 21:16 |
| mriedem | e.g. if i page across cell1 to cell2 and my marker is in cell2 before sorting, | 21:16 |
| mriedem | but then sort and my marker is in cell1, its weird | 21:16 |
| dansmith | that's why encoding something more in the marker id would let us avoid that | 21:17 |
| mriedem | hmm, ok he dropped the local marker stuff he had in PS21 | 21:17 |
| dansmith | because you have to look up the marker globally by uuid, then look up the marker per cell by >=$sort_field, and then use that as your marker= to the actual list call | 21:17 |
| dansmith | if we encoded the marker uuid, cell id and the sort key from the global marker in the result, then we wouldn't have to do all that and could restart the paginated query right away | 21:18 |
| dansmith | anyway, let's not design it here, we can discuss elsewhere | 21:19 |
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| dansmith | any other reviews to highlight? | 21:20 |
| mriedem | not me | 21:20 |
| dansmith | #topic open discussion | 21:20 |
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| dansmith | so I had a thing to point out here, but I forgot what it was | 21:20 |
| melwitt | hmm | 21:21 |
| dansmith | anyone else got anything? | 21:21 |
| mriedem | nope | 21:21 |
| melwitt | nay | 21:22 |
| tssurya_ | nope | 21:22 |
| dansmith | okie doke | 21:22 |
| dansmith | #endmeeting | 21:22 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 29 21:22:23 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:22 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2017/nova_cells.2017-11-29-21.00.html | 21:22 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2017/nova_cells.2017-11-29-21.00.txt | 21:22 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2017/nova_cells.2017-11-29-21.00.log.html | 21:22 |
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