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tellesnobrega#startmeeting sahara14:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Oct 19 14:00:36 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is tellesnobrega. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: sahara)"14:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'sahara'14:00
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toskyo/14:02
tellesnobregalets wait a couple minutes to see if anyone else shows up14:02
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tellesnobregahey esikachev14:03
esikachevhey!14:04
esikachevsorry, guys, I am very busy on my current jobs14:04
tellesnobregaesikachev, no worries, we appreciate you helping whenever you can14:05
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tellesnobrega#topic News/Updates14:05
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tellesnobregaI got new patches up for image generation, cdh 5.9, 5.11 and ambari 2.414:07
tellesnobregaI think ambari and cdh 5.9 are ready to merge14:07
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tellesnobrega5.11 I need to remove a comment on tools/builg14:08
tellesnobregabuild14:08
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tellesnobregaother than that I have to cut queens m114:09
tellesnobregawe have until tomorrow so, I will wait so we can get more patches in14:09
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toskyon my side, apart from some internal work (and retesting pike), I'm still keeping an eye on the migration to native zuul v3 jobs14:10
toskythe situation is more or less the same described last week14:10
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tellesnobregagood14:11
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toskythe only one which is ready to go is the review with the jobs for sahara-image-elements14:12
toskyother jobs requires some other changes somewhere (tempest, grenade)14:12
tellesnobregatosky, this one? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/511080/14:12
toskyothers, finally, require some work by me (scenario, dashboard-integration), but I will be a bit slower on them14:12
toskytellesnobrega: exactly14:13
tellesnobregacool, I will merge it today14:13
tellesnobregaone question, sahara-ci tests are all failing, do we have a plan to fix that?14:14
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tellesnobregatosky, ^14:17
toskysahara-ci is a 3rd-party CI and I have no idea how it is managed14:18
tellesnobregaoh, ok14:19
tellesnobregamaybe we can get esikachev to update us on this14:19
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esikachevtellesnobrega: unfortunately I can't implement the sahara-ci on Jeremy host14:20
esikachevbecause of double virtualization14:20
tellesnobregaesikachev, still failing or no time?14:20
tellesnobregaI understand14:20
tellesnobregaI will ask around see if I can get some machines from Red Hat14:21
esikachevwe need to find new place for sahara-ci14:21
esikachevyep14:21
esikachevthank you14:21
tellesnobregahow many machines do we need?14:21
esikachevyou mean baremetal?14:21
tellesnobregayeah14:21
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esikachev2 will be enough14:22
tellesnobregaany special requirements?14:23
esikachev>=64gb ram14:23
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tellesnobregaesikachev, ok14:23
tellesnobregaI will ask around14:24
esikachevok14:24
tellesnobrega#topic Open Discussion14:25
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tellesnobregaIn less than a month I will be in Sydney, there are open slots for onboarding sessions14:26
tellesnobregaI was wondering if we should do it for Sahara. Last time we only had one person there, so maybe we should not use up the time and room14:28
tellesnobregaany thoughts?14:28
toskyas you are going to be there, it's probably up to your schedule :)14:30
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toskyyou could wear an elephant hat so that people know that they can contact you directly14:30
tellesnobregasure14:30
tellesnobregalol14:30
tellesnobregathat would look cool14:30
tellesnobregado we have anything else to discuss?14:32
esikachev-14:32
tellesnobregaI will apply the 5 minutes silence rule14:34
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tellesnobregaOk, lets call it. Thanks tosky and esikachev.14:39
tellesnobrega#endmeeting14:39
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esikachevthanks, bye14:39
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cdent#startmeeting api-sig16:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Oct 19 16:00:19 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is cdent. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'api_sig'16:00
cdent#chair elmiko edleafe16:00
openstackCurrent chairs: cdent edleafe elmiko16:00
cdentsomebody else want to run the show? I’m all typed out?16:00
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dtantsuro/16:01
elmikop/16:01
edleafe\o16:01
elmikoi can run it, but i need like 2 minutes16:01
cdentwelcome back dtantsur16:01
cdentthanks elmiko16:02
dtantsur\o/ I'm getting increasingly more time free of paperwork and running around the city16:02
elmikoalrighty then16:02
elmiko\o/ dtantsur16:02
elmiko#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/API-SIG#Agenda16:03
elmiko#topic previous meeting action items16:03
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elmikoi sent my email to the -sig ml16:03
elmikoand added a survery16:03
elmikolol16:03
* dtantsur suspects he needs to subscribe :D16:04
elmikoedleafe: i saw you making some noise about the video, any response?16:04
edleafe#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-sigs/2017-October/000122.html16:04
edleafeNo response yet16:04
elmiko#link https://goo.gl/forms/x3YPuhBcJP7n9Odt116:04
cdenti’m pretty sure there aren’t all that many subscribers to that list16:04
elmikonone on the survey either16:04
elmikoyeah, made me wonder if i should send that survey link to other lists?16:04
edleafeThat's a good question then: where do the SDK-type people hang out?16:05
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elmiko+116:05
cdentelmiko: you made question 3 required, but if you say no to question two it doesn’t make sense?16:05
elmikooops, good point. i'll fix that16:05
* dtantsur has to google "APAC business hours"16:05
elmikook, should be changes16:05
dtantsurI'm not sure what it formally means16:05
dtantsurI wonder if it's obvious for everyone else16:06
edleafeAPAC == asia pacific16:06
elmikoi figured 9-5ish for APAC ppls16:06
dtantsurI know what APAC means, but that region is big16:06
edleafeSo China, Japan, Australia, etc16:06
edleafeah16:06
dtantsurwhich times in UTC do you have in mind?16:06
elmikoand the description has this "This form is to gauge interest from the OpenStack community about meeting times for the API-SIG as they pertain to the APAC(Asia Pacific) timezones. The meetings are currently scheduled to occur weekly on Thursday at 16:00UTC."16:06
elmikoi have no times in mind yet, i wanted to gauge interest16:06
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elmikowe'll get to that if there are ppl who want the meeting16:06
* dtantsur skips the survey then16:07
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elmikoDavid Flanders raised a point about opening up the discussion surrounding supporting people on that side of the globe with a more convenient meeting time16:08
elmikowe were happy to have the conversation, this survey is a first attempt16:08
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cdentI think until we see evidence of sdk discussion on any of the email lists, we’re chasing ghosts16:08
cdentand we should encourage talk on the lists16:08
elmiko+116:08
edleafeyeah, emails among a few people are far from ideal16:09
elmikoi'll leave the survey open for awhile and hopefully it will get in front the right ppl16:09
cdentwe have an established pattern of irc for this meeting, mostly to discuss guidelines, but in general email is the only medium that has global accessibility16:09
elmikoand i am more than happy to repost the survery on dev-ml and any other ml that is appropriate16:09
dtantsurironic tried experimenting with having an alternate meeting in APAC time16:09
elmikomaybe i should reach out to Melvin to see if he has ideas on where to post?16:10
dtantsurdid not work out16:10
elmikowe had one for api-wg too, same result16:10
edleafeNova alternates, but neither are convenient for APAC16:11
elmikoit's a tough swing to make16:11
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elmikoanything else on this topic?16:11
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elmiko#topic open mic and new biz16:11
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edleafeJust that email might be better than meetings16:11
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elmikoack, mind replying to my email on sig-ml with that thought?16:12
edleafewill do16:12
elmikothanks16:12
elmiko2 topics on the new biz16:13
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elmikolightning talk and new guideline, not sure who added these16:13
cdentedleafe I reckon16:13
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edleafewell, matt riedemann asked about the "changes-since" guideline16:14
edleafewe don't have one16:14
dtantsuris it something like updated_at>=..?16:14
edleafeSo I thought we'd discuss: should we create one?16:15
dtantsurbecause then it feels like we should just use it + operators (we have something about them, don't we?)16:15
cdentI feel like it’s come up before, either as a proposed thing, or maybe somewhere in the old wiki pages16:15
edleafedtantsur: that depends on the table definition, but in general, yeah16:15
cdentdtantsur: it is effectively update_at>=<something> yes16:15
cdentbut there’s precedent somewhere16:15
dtantsurI thought updated_at is (semi-)standard16:16
elmikocdent: yeah, this sounds familiar16:16
cdentand because updated_at isn’t always present, it provides a bit of an abstraction16:16
edleafecdent: I thought that there should have been something, as it's not an esoteric question16:16
edleafedtantsur: I've seen 'last_updated', 'modified_time'; variations like that16:17
dtantsurthat's sad16:17
dtantsurI was about to suggest to make updated_at standard :)16:17
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edleafeWell, yeah, that would be part of the guideline to add16:18
cdentdtantsur: I think updated_at presumes a database table is present, one that is backed by oslodb and the timestamp mixin16:18
cdentall of which is far more assumption than we want to be making16:19
dtantsurhow would you calculate changes-since without having such source of information?16:19
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dtantsurnot necessary oslodb, anything that can hold a timestamp and do queries about it16:19
cdentwell _something_ in the store has timestamp16:19
cdentbut it might not be updated at, and it might not be a db16:20
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cdentand the api-wg^wsig doesn’t want to presuppose backends16:20
dtantsurI don't see how this assumes a backend16:20
cdentit would, of course, be just as abstracted to say that updated_at>= abstracts to whatever16:20
cdentbut the pre-existing pattern with sort keys and sort operators is that they _do_ map to fields on the resources16:21
cdentand changes-since does not16:21
dtantsurassumptions here are: 1. it's possible to know updated_at for the entity, 2. it's possible to compare updated_at values to timestamps more or less efficiently16:21
cdentI don’t really mind that, just dredging up my recollections16:21
cdentyes16:21
dtantsurI'm not sure how to implement changes-since, if any of these assumptions is missing..16:23
cdentif the entity has no times, then yeah, it is impossible16:23
elmikoseems like we have some fodder here to at least start a guideline?16:24
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cdentprolly16:24
elmikodtantsur you interested in taking the lead on this one?16:25
edleafeI'm a little swamped at the moment, but would happy to take a crack at it soon-ish16:25
dtantsursimilarly for created_at/exists-since?16:25
elmikoedleafe: ack16:25
dtantsurelmiko: I can, but I don't have a use case personally16:25
elmikoahh, ok16:25
elmikoshould we just leave it open till next time then?16:26
dtantsurI was planning on a more interesting guideline about tasks and long running processes (remember ironic discussion at the PTG?)16:26
edleafeelmiko: sure, perhaps by next week my patch series will have progressed enough16:26
elmikodtantsur: +116:26
cdentdo we agree that it is even a good idea? I’m nonplussged.16:26
* cdent needs a guideline for typing16:27
edleafecdent: it's boring, sure, but so are a lot of the guidelines :)16:27
elmikoi think if projects are going to keep track of some sort of "modified at" type field, then we should have a guideline16:27
elmikoedleafe: ++16:27
cdenttrue16:27
dtantsurelmiko: as I said, I thought it's standard :) we have created_at and updated_at in our base model16:27
* cdent cruises the abandoneds16:27
dtantsurdunno if it's the same for other projects, but I guess we copy-pasted it from nova :)16:28
elmikodtantsur: right, but it seems like there is some debate about how it is implemented across projects16:28
elmikohaha16:28
elmikook, so what about the lightning talk topic. any movement on this?16:28
edleafewell, that's sort of what the email to the sig list was about16:29
cdent(heh, there are three abandoned pagination guidelines)16:29
elmikowow, that list *is* dead...16:30
dtantsurcdent: only the strongest of us can do pagination correctly! and only the wisest can tell the others how to do it16:30
elmikoi wonder if we just need to ping dff directly?16:30
elmikodtantsur: XD16:30
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edleafeelmiko: maybe, but that's more non-list email traffic16:31
edleafeI'd like it to be less16:31
edleafeif he has some ideas, he should respond on the list16:31
cdentedleafe++16:31
cdenthe’s probably busy, there are a series of openstack days this week16:32
elmikoedleafe: yeah... =(16:32
elmikogetting short on time for prep stuff16:32
edleafe#action edleafe to follow-up on the openstack-sigs list about the lightning talk video16:33
elmikothanks edleafe16:33
elmiko#topic guidelines16:33
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elmiko#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/api-wg,n,z16:33
elmiko#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/api-sig,n,z16:33
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* dtantsur notes that openstack/api-sig is not a thing16:33
cdentdtantsur: I think that’s a form of optimism or wishful thinking16:34
edleafedtantsur: yeah, that involves a github change that's kind of messy16:34
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dtantsuredleafe: we don't have to rename, we can leave a placeholder and just import the contents16:35
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edleafeI put that link there in case we ever bite the bullet and move stuff16:35
* dtantsur is probably not expressing himself clearly16:35
dtantsurI mean, create a new repo from the old one (with importing its history); replace the contents of the old one with a redirect/placeholder16:36
elmikogithub does auto-redirects for repo renames16:36
elmikonot sure about the cgit stuff16:36
edleafedtantsur: doesn't that require someone who's an owner of the OpenStack GitHub repo?16:36
cdentgithub isn’t the concern is it? it’s cgit.o.o?16:36
elmikoyeah16:36
dtantsuredleafe: nope16:36
edleafecdent: you're right16:36
dtantsurthe first item is how you create a new repo, infra can import it for you16:37
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dtantsurthe second item is just a patch, similar to how dead projects are replaced with only a README16:37
edleafedtantsur: I'll look into it more when I have some free time (hah!)16:39
elmikook, so more infra work to be sorted before we merge the sig rename patch?16:39
dtantsur"free time"? is it some fancy English I don't know?16:39
elmikoLOL16:39
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elmiko#topic bug review16:39
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edleafeelmiko: no, we can merge that patch now16:39
elmiko#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-api-wg16:40
elmikoedleafe: ack, thanks16:40
edleafeelmiko: it's a process :)16:40
elmikoedleafe: i'm gonna +W unless someone stops me16:40
cdentdo it16:40
elmikodone16:40
dtantsurwe probably need a bug about this changes-since thingy16:40
elmikowow, bug list is shrinking. kudos to whomever is doing this =)16:41
* dtantsur suspects bug-stealing gnomes16:41
elmikohaha16:42
elmikoanyone object to adding a bug about the changes-since stuff?16:43
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cdentno, of course not16:43
elmiko#action dtantsur add bug about changes-since topic16:43
elmikoXD16:43
dtantsurack :)16:43
cdentit will help us^wdtantsur to remember16:43
elmikohehe =)16:44
elmiko#topic weekly newsletter16:44
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elmiko#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-sig-newsletter16:44
dtantsurI just typed "api-sigh" in my personal notes16:44
dtantsurI think you're all are to blame :D16:44
elmikoi am not a good candidate for newsletter this week, i have a meeting right after this16:44
cdentyay!16:44
elmikodtantsur: LOL16:44
edleafesigh16:45
cdentI think we’ve got the makings of a teen drama16:45
elmikohaha16:45
edleafeI guess it's my turn16:45
cdentthe opening credits involve a dreamy dtantsur doodling on his trapper keeper16:45
cdent<3 api-sigh16:45
elmiko++16:45
elmikoand thanks edleafe16:45
cdentyes, thank you edleafe16:45
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* dtantsur opens google translate16:45
elmikoalso, i will out for next meeting, conference travel16:45
elmiko*be out16:46
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elmikobut if anyone wants to have a pint in dublin, look me up XD16:46
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dtantsurelmiko: say hi to lucasagomes, if you meet him16:46
elmikoi would love to meet up with him16:46
dtantsurhe has run away from us to the glorious land of virtual networking16:47
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elmikoany last minute items?16:47
elmikodtantsur: yeah, i heard something about that16:47
cdenti got nothing16:47
elmikoi guess we get back like 12 minutes of our day then16:47
dtantsurnothing here too16:47
elmikothanks everybody =)16:47
dtantsurthanks!16:48
elmiko#endmeeting16:48
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openstackMeeting ended Thu Oct 19 16:48:02 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)16:48
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cdentdtantsur: trapper keeper is a 1980s notebook for papers an stuff: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=trapper+keeper&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjV37Tskf3WAhVEAsAKHTjrBEkQiR4IqQE&biw=1436&bih=780&dpr=216:48
cdentdamn too late16:48
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elmikocdent: lol16:55
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SumitNaiksatamrkukura: annakk: hi17:59
rkukurahi18:00
SumitNaiksatammay be a short meeting today18:00
SumitNaiksatam#startmeeting networking_policy18:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Oct 19 18:00:20 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is SumitNaiksatam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.18:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.18:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'networking_policy'18:00
annakkhi!18:00
SumitNaiksatam#topic Zuul v3 migration18:00
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SumitNaiksatamreviving the topic from a couple of weeks back18:00
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SumitNaiksatamfor the most part at least py27 seems to be working for our patches in the check queue with zuul v318:01
SumitNaiksatamthere is a patch which failed yesterday in the merge queue18:01
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SumitNaiksatamthe devstack jobs (except the AIM job) are failing again, and I will look into it18:01
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SumitNaiksatamwe also dont seem to have the docs job any more, but i am not too concerned on that front18:02
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SumitNaiksatamany other follow up we need with respect to zuul v3?18:03
SumitNaiksatamokay, hopefully not18:04
SumitNaiksatam#topic Open Discussion18:04
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SumitNaiksatam#link https://review.openstack.org/49719718:04
annakk:) sorry, I wasn't following zuul issues18:04
SumitNaiksatami tested the above patch, and found one issue18:04
SumitNaiksatamhave put a comment18:04
SumitNaiksatamannakk: no worries, i am will try to follow up on those18:04
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SumitNaiksatamtbachman: hi18:05
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annakktbachman: hi18:05
tbachmanSumitNaiksatam: hi!18:05
SumitNaiksatamtbachman: we were just finished discussing the status of zuul v3 with regards to our patches18:05
tbachmanannakk: hi!18:05
tbachmanah18:05
tbachmancool :18:05
tbachman:)18:05
SumitNaiksatamone of our patches failed in the merge queue, but other than that (and fixing the devstack jobs) i think we seem to be okay18:06
SumitNaiksatamregarding the above UI patch, i will need one more person to try it out before we merge it18:06
SumitNaiksatam#link https://review.openstack.org/49719718:06
SumitNaiksatam(pasting again for tbachman’s reference)18:06
tbachmanSumitNaiksatam: thx!18:07
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SumitNaiksatamthe comment i put in the patch needs to be addressed18:07
* tbachman will try to get to it soon18:07
SumitNaiksatambut i cant post a revisiion if we dont hear back from Mareck18:07
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SumitNaiksatamtbachman: no worries, did not mean to point at you, just FYI18:07
SumitNaiksatamother than that i think we made good progress with cleaning up the logs18:08
annakkack, logs look better now18:08
SumitNaiksatami havent had a chance to analyze the logs after the v3 migration18:08
SumitNaiksatami havent had a chance to estimate the pike changes either18:08
SumitNaiksatamtbachman: rkukura are you going to be in SJ next week?18:09
rkukuraSumitNaiksatam: yes18:09
tbachmanSumitNaiksatam: ack18:09
SumitNaiksatamokay nice18:09
SumitNaiksatamso perhaps we can disuss prior to the thursday meeting, and then we can continue that discussion with annak18:09
rkukura+118:10
* tbachman nods18:10
annakkok18:10
SumitNaiksatamokay thanks18:10
annakkthanks18:10
SumitNaiksatami dont have anything else for today18:10
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: tbachman annakk: anything you want to discuss18:10
rkukuranothing new from me18:10
annakknot from me18:10
tbachmanmum from me18:11
SumitNaiksatamoh i did notice some of those one liner patches in GBP as well :-)18:11
SumitNaiksatamthere was a big thread in openstack lists about such gratituous patches18:11
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annakkrecently?18:11
SumitNaiksatammy personal opinion is we can just decide on a per patch basis18:11
tbachmanSumitNaiksatam: I agree18:12
tbachmansome one liners are good :)18:12
SumitNaiksatamannakk: there was a long thread about patches being posted across projects which make minor changes18:12
SumitNaiksatamtbachman: agree!18:12
rkukuragaming the stats?18:12
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: right right18:12
tbachmanIf we get to the point where it’s overly burdensome for reviews, that would be one thing18:12
SumitNaiksatamor at least that is what it seemed like, though that is an opinion18:13
SumitNaiksatamtbachman: agree18:13
SumitNaiksatami am not concerned at all, just wanted to bring it up18:13
rkukuranot sure our repo counts towards the stats anyway :(18:13
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: lol18:13
annakk:)18:13
SumitNaiksatami think all repos count in some way18:13
SumitNaiksatami dont think statanalytics differentiates that way, i may be wrong though18:14
annakkmaybe they should open a dedicated repo :)18:14
SumitNaiksatambut you can filter and get your stats18:14
SumitNaiksatamannakk: :-)18:14
SumitNaiksatamif nothing else, we can wrap up18:14
SumitNaiksatamthanks all for joining!18:14
annakkthanks!18:14
SumitNaiksatambye!18:14
annakkbye18:14
tbachmanSumitNaiksatam: thx!18:14
SumitNaiksatam#endmeeting18:14
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