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| soichi | hi | 05:32 |
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| kaz | hi | 05:32 |
| soichi | #startmeeting taas | 05:33 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 27 05:33:23 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is soichi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 05:33 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 05:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: taas)" | 05:33 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'taas' | 05:33 |
| yamamoto_ | hi | 05:33 |
| soichi | yamamoto_: hi | 05:33 |
| soichi | #topic Forum in OpenStack Summit Sydney | 05:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Forum in OpenStack Summit Sydney (Meeting topic: taas)" | 05:33 | |
| soichi | #link http://forumtopics.openstack.org/ | 05:34 |
| soichi | i found Reedip san submitted "Neutron Quality-Of-Service Discussion" | 05:34 |
| soichi | What do you say to submit a topic "TaaS"? As a discussion of operation and monitoring tool. | 05:36 |
| yamamoto_ | are you going to sydney? | 05:38 |
| kaz | i have a plan to attend. | 05:38 |
| yamamoto_ | if any of you can attend the forum, go ahead to submit the topic | 05:39 |
| yamamoto_ | i guess i can't | 05:39 |
| kaz | i see. | 05:39 |
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| soichi | kaz and one more person (unfortunately, not me) will be go, i think. | 05:41 |
| soichi | #topic Open Discussion | 05:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: taas)" | 05:42 | |
| soichi | do you have any topic to discuss? | 05:44 |
| soichi | do we need to check the progress of Action Items for Stadium inclusion? | 05:45 |
| yamamoto_ | i guess someone (tm) should write meaningful scenario tests | 05:48 |
| soichi | okay, i'd like to add this as a topic of next week's IRC meeting because Reedip and other folks are not available today. | 05:50 |
| yamamoto_ | ok | 05:51 |
| soichi | i guess we have no more topics for today. | 05:55 |
| kaz | i think so. | 05:55 |
| soichi | #endmeeting | 05:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 05:58 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 27 05:58:02 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 05:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2017/taas.2017-09-27-05.33.html | 05:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2017/taas.2017-09-27-05.33.txt | 05:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2017/taas.2017-09-27-05.33.log.html | 05:58 |
| soichi | bye | 05:58 |
| kaz | bye | 05:58 |
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| prometheanfire | #startmeeting requirements | 12:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 27 12:00:33 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is prometheanfire. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 12:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 12:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 12:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'requirements' | 12:00 |
| prometheanfire | #topic rollcall | 12:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 12:00 | |
| prometheanfire | tonyb, prometheanfire, number80, dirk, coolsvap, toabctl, smcginnis ? | 12:00 |
| toabctl | hey | 12:01 |
| prometheanfire | I'll give people another minute to show up | 12:02 |
| dirk | o/ | 12:03 |
| prometheanfire | #topic Any controversies in the Queue? | 12:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Any controversies in the Queue? (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 12:03 | |
| prometheanfire | I don't really see any | 12:04 |
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| dirk | nope, all good | 12:05 |
| prometheanfire | :D | 12:05 |
| prometheanfire | #topic bug 1715486 | 12:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bug 1715486 (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 12:06 | |
| openstack | bug 1715486 in oslo.versionedobjects "py35 tests failing due to iso8601 module change" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1715486 - Assigned to zhangyangyang (zhangyangyang) | 12:06 |
| prometheanfire | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1715486 | 12:06 |
| prometheanfire | I think we'll have to do the change at least to versionedobjects ourselves | 12:06 |
| dims | o/ | 12:06 |
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| prometheanfire | although... | 12:07 |
| prometheanfire | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/502029/ | 12:07 |
| prometheanfire | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/498275/5 | 12:07 |
| dirk | yep, we just wait for revieweres | 12:08 |
| prometheanfire | ya | 12:08 |
| prometheanfire | guess we bug people in that case | 12:08 |
| dirk | I did a brutal spam now by adding the core group as reviewers | 12:08 |
| dims | do we have to raise the min for iso8601 package? | 12:08 |
| prometheanfire | thanks | 12:09 |
| prometheanfire | I don't think so | 12:09 |
| dirk | dims: we don't have to yet | 12:09 |
| prometheanfire | depends on how they do the fix | 12:09 |
| prometheanfire | and that looks fine | 12:10 |
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| prometheanfire | anyway, moving on :D | 12:10 |
| prometheanfire | #topic open discussion | 12:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 12:10 | |
| dirk | two topics | 12:11 |
| dirk | a bashate? | 12:11 |
| dirk | I noticed we have some shell scripting in requirements, do we want to bashate it (pep8 for shell) | 12:11 |
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| prometheanfire | looks like things are moving ahead with the two main bugs we have https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-requirements/+bug/1719006 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-requirements/+bug/1719009 | 12:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1719006 in OpenStack Global Requirements "publish per branch constraints files to tarballs.o.o" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Tony Breeds (o-tony) | 12:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1719009 in OpenStack Global Requirements "per project requirements" [High,New] | 12:11 |
| prometheanfire | as far as bashate, sure | 12:11 |
| prometheanfire | we tend to rely a fair amount on bash, especially in the tools | 12:12 |
| dirk | #agreed add bashate to the lint job for requirements | 12:13 |
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| prometheanfire | or include it in another lint job we already have | 12:13 |
| prometheanfire | whatever works for that | 12:14 |
| dirk | b the py35-chec-uc job seems unstable | 12:14 |
| prometheanfire | yep | 12:14 |
| dirk | I noticed in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/507392/ that the original change went through without a hitch | 12:14 |
| prometheanfire | I'm waiting on infra to finish their zuulv3 work (unrelated) on that | 12:14 |
| dirk | and then later it caused the gate to reset several times | 12:14 |
| dirk | does anyone have an idea why that is? | 12:14 |
| prometheanfire | my only idea is some mirroring problem, but it hits ovh and the other one (starts with an 'i' iirc) | 12:15 |
| prometheanfire | anything else before I close? | 12:16 |
| dirk | not sure that's true | 12:16 |
| prometheanfire | ya, it was more of a feeling | 12:16 |
| dirk | I looked at the build logs and it did install the new package so it should have found the conflict | 12:17 |
| dirk | there must be something $magic that caused it to not trigger. maybe installation order was different | 12:17 |
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| prometheanfire | that could be | 12:18 |
| dirk | anyway, we can investigate outside this meeting | 12:20 |
| coolsvap | o/ | 12:21 |
| * coolsvap is late | 12:21 | |
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| coolsvap | I think I'll read the logs | 12:21 |
| prometheanfire | ok, ending the meeting then | 12:22 |
| prometheanfire | coolsvap: ya, not too much | 12:22 |
| prometheanfire | #endmeeting | 12:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 12:22 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 27 12:22:20 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 12:22 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/requirements/2017/requirements.2017-09-27-12.00.html | 12:22 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/requirements/2017/requirements.2017-09-27-12.00.txt | 12:22 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/requirements/2017/requirements.2017-09-27-12.00.log.html | 12:22 |
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| seanhandley | hi zhipeng o/ | 13:58 |
| zhipeng | hey seanhandley ! | 13:58 |
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| seanhandley | I'll get started in a couple of minutes | 14:00 |
| zhipeng | no problem :) | 14:01 |
| tobberydberg | o/ | 14:01 |
| seanhandley | hey tobberydberg! | 14:01 |
| seanhandley | You made it | 14:01 |
| seanhandley | Are you off the plane? | 14:02 |
| tobberydberg | Yes! And found a fish and chips as well after some hunting at terminal 2 ;-) | 14:02 |
| tobberydberg | No, waiting to board | 14:02 |
| seanhandley | aha ok | 14:02 |
| seanhandley | How was the Natural History museum ? | 14:02 |
| zhipeng | haha | 14:03 |
| zhipeng | how was the chip and fish :P | 14:03 |
| tobberydberg | it was awesome! Bought some cool stones to the kids =) | 14:03 |
| tobberydberg | hahaha | 14:03 |
| tobberydberg | even better | 14:03 |
| seanhandley | :D | 14:04 |
| tobberydberg | Can't leave the UK without that....probably will be arrested in Copenhagen for that... | 14:04 |
| seanhandley | Let's go then :) | 14:04 |
| seanhandley | #startmeeting publiccloud-wg | 14:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 27 14:04:24 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is seanhandley. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: publiccloud-wg)" | 14:04 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'publiccloud_wg' | 14:04 |
| seanhandley | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/publiccloud-wg | 14:04 |
| seanhandley | Names on the Etherpad please ^^^^ | 14:04 |
| seanhandley | #topic Recap meetup meeting in London | 14:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Recap meetup meeting in London (Meeting topic: publiccloud-wg)" | 14:05 | |
| seanhandley | Soooo, OSDUK | 14:05 |
| seanhandley | Great session on the Passport Program | 14:06 |
| seanhandley | We had some very valuable feedback from the Foundation and other attendees | 14:06 |
| zhipeng | gr8t! | 14:06 |
| seanhandley | zhipeng: You should definitely read the Etherpad :) | 14:06 |
| seanhandley | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MEETUPS-2017-publiccloud-wg | 14:06 |
| zhipeng | let me click through that | 14:06 |
| tobberydberg | (feel free to edit the agenda seanhandley if you like...just did a quick one earlier...) | 14:06 |
| seanhandley | It's fine as it is tobberydberg :) | 14:07 |
| seanhandley | Since it seems to be just the chairs at the meeting today | 14:07 |
| seanhandley | I think keeping Howard in the loop should be the main goal today | 14:08 |
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| seanhandley | I don't have anything else in mind for the agenda | 14:08 |
| tobberydberg | ++ | 14:08 |
| seanhandley | Except perhaps to set myself an action point to right up an initial draft spec for a technical solution for v1 | 14:08 |
| seanhandley | #action seanhandley To write up initial draft spec for Passport Program v1 technical workflow | 14:09 |
| pilgrimstack | o/ | 14:09 |
| seanhandley | hey pilgrimstack o/ | 14:09 |
| tobberydberg | hi pilgrimstack | 14:09 |
| seanhandley | thanks for joining | 14:09 |
| zhipeng | hey pilgrimstack | 14:09 |
| seanhandley | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/publiccloud-wg <-- sign on the Etherpad please | 14:10 |
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| tobberydberg | Nice to get a face behind the name yesterday pilgrimstack ... even if it wasn't IRL | 14:10 |
| seanhandley | Does anyone have questions about the technical discussion we had yesterday about the Passport Program? | 14:11 |
| pilgrimstack | yep, for me too, I had mainly your voices but thanks again | 14:12 |
| tobberydberg | ouch, sorry for that ;-) | 14:12 |
| tobberydberg | There were some good notes written down, and I think we have a good plan moving forward | 14:13 |
| tobberydberg | broken down into steps | 14:14 |
| tobberydberg | if it is unclear - step 0 is to Sydney | 14:14 |
| tobberydberg | more of at marketing kind of thing | 14:14 |
| zhipeng | QR code is a bold idea | 14:14 |
| zhipeng | that would be very interesting | 14:14 |
| tobberydberg | we will have to create a landing page at o.o | 14:14 |
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| tobberydberg | have some thoughts about that, filtering possibilities for regions, projects etc etc | 14:15 |
| tobberydberg | well, yes...we will see what will happen there...well worth giving that a thought | 14:15 |
| seanhandley | I like the QR code idea - means we can have more secure URLs if we do print out the passports in physical form | 14:16 |
| zhipeng | ++ | 14:16 |
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| seanhandley | tobberydberg: We'll discuss the landing page tomorrow on our meeting with the foundation | 14:16 |
| zhipeng | and looking down, GDPR would be another topic worth discussing at Copenhagen @tobberydberg | 14:16 |
| seanhandley | will you be attending that zhipeng tobberydberg ? | 14:17 |
| tobberydberg | but, that leads in to the bigger discussion about that whole process...later matter though... | 14:17 |
| zhipeng | I will | 14:17 |
| seanhandley | 0600 UTC I think | 14:17 |
| tobberydberg | absolutley | 14:17 |
| tobberydberg | I hope to yes...haven't really figured out the time yet... | 14:17 |
| seanhandley | Awesome. I may attend - Oscar is unwell so I'm anticipating a long night tonight | 14:17 |
| seanhandley | Might be sleeping | 14:17 |
| tobberydberg | oh, sorry to hear that | 14:18 |
| seanhandley | just a cold :) | 14:18 |
| zhipeng | take care man | 14:18 |
| tobberydberg | Think flanders sent out another invitation as well...will have to look into that... | 14:18 |
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| seanhandley | I guess we should have some say on the contents/layout of the passport page on o.o | 14:19 |
| seanhandley | but let the foundation make it pretty :) | 14:19 |
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| tobberydberg | GDPR, locking out customers depending on different kind of things will probably be worth discussing in the "judgement process" as well | 14:19 |
| seanhandley | ah yes | 14:19 |
| tobberydberg | absolutely | 14:19 |
| seanhandley | clouds that exclude some regions/users/companies is a tricky one | 14:19 |
| tobberydberg | If someone just point us in the write direction I'm sure we can do some good featured there as well | 14:20 |
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| tobberydberg | yes...it will be a discussion point for sure | 14:20 |
| tobberydberg | Other questions? | 14:21 |
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| seanhandley | Ok, let's move on | 14:22 |
| seanhandley | #topic Forum sessions - deadline 29th Sept | 14:22 |
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| seanhandley | Have you got something to say on this tobberydberg ? | 14:22 |
| tobberydberg | Flanders have suggested that we should split passport session into 3 2 or 3 sessions... | 14:22 |
| tobberydberg | *2 or 3 | 14:22 |
| seanhandley | ok | 14:23 |
| seanhandley | what would the titles be? | 14:23 |
| tobberydberg | as well as one more for the plan of the work ahead | 14:23 |
| tobberydberg | one tech, one marketing... | 14:23 |
| tobberydberg | and maybe one general improvement | 14:23 |
| zhipeng | ah that might be a good suggestion | 14:23 |
| tobberydberg | we have 3 days...I have another presentation, we have one BoF and one WG slot as well | 14:24 |
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| tobberydberg | Can we gather enough people to all session? | 14:25 |
| tobberydberg | I'm not against it, just thinking of all angels... | 14:25 |
| seanhandley | Yeah, I don't think we should overdo it | 14:25 |
| seanhandley | and I won't be attending to help | 14:26 |
| zhipeng | yep | 14:26 |
| seanhandley | Neither will Nick, in all likelihood | 14:26 |
| seanhandley | I'd just start with one forum session tbh | 14:26 |
| seanhandley | given that we have a WG slot also | 14:26 |
| seanhandley | and make it technical | 14:27 |
| seanhandley | the WG slot can be less technical | 14:27 |
| seanhandley | Thoughts? | 14:27 |
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| zhipeng | agree | 14:27 |
| tobberydberg | I guess those 2 session will not attract "others"...thats probably the reason for the suggestion | 14:27 |
| zhipeng | i heard the volume at Sydney will be lower than past summit | 14:27 |
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| zhipeng | due to long flight hours from EU or US | 14:28 |
| tobberydberg | oh, ok...less than Barcelona? | 14:28 |
| tobberydberg | lot of people from asia though I guess | 14:28 |
| tobberydberg | long flight? I only have 24h... | 14:28 |
| zhipeng | i guess :P not sure, just rumors | 14:28 |
| seanhandley | I can live with that tobberydberg tbh. This needs to be sustainable and we shouldn't spread ourselves too thin. You never know what conversations etc may bring in others at the summit. And remember we'll have a Keynote mention about the Passport Program too. | 14:28 |
| zhipeng | haha 24h is long man | 14:28 |
| tobberydberg | mmm | 14:29 |
| zhipeng | agree one forum plus one WG | 14:29 |
| zhipeng | we could focus tech issue on the forum | 14:29 |
| tobberydberg | ok | 14:31 |
| seanhandley | cool :) | 14:32 |
| seanhandley | Are you ok to submit that by Friday tobberydberg ? | 14:32 |
| tobberydberg | after yesterdays discussions I think that we will need the upcoming cycle to see how the program works, before we can take to many decisions on moving forward... | 14:33 |
| tobberydberg | yes, absolutly | 14:33 |
| seanhandley | Awesome :) | 14:33 |
| seanhandley | #action tobberydberg to submit 1 x technical forum session | 14:33 |
| tobberydberg | so, do you think that we should have a third about the goals for next release, or should that be at the BoF or WG space? | 14:34 |
| seanhandley | Yeah, do that in the WG space I think | 14:34 |
| seanhandley | a higher level look at what we want to do long term | 14:34 |
| tobberydberg | If you would like to edit something int the draft of it, please do at the ether... | 14:34 |
| seanhandley | Ok, I will when I can | 14:34 |
| seanhandley | Shall we move to the next item or is there more to figure out for Sydney ? | 14:35 |
| tobberydberg | yea, or anyone else as well for that matter | 14:35 |
| tobberydberg | I actually think that a official session for PCWG goals isn't bad...publicly announced via the program etc | 14:36 |
| tobberydberg | thoughts? | 14:36 |
| tobberydberg | Or will that be to much? | 14:36 |
| seanhandley | I won't be there so I don't want to say it's ok :) | 14:36 |
| seanhandley | if you and Howard want to, then do it | 14:36 |
| zhipeng | i think it is doable | 14:36 |
| tobberydberg | Please as well signup at the etherpad if you are willing to help out chairing the sessions | 14:36 |
| tobberydberg | don't mind the work seanhandley ... you opinion? =) | 14:37 |
| seanhandley | I'm happy if you're happy tobberydberg | 14:37 |
| tobberydberg | hahaha | 14:37 |
| seanhandley | as long as you don't mind having so many sessions to run! | 14:37 |
| tobberydberg | due to the WG space thing zhipeng | 14:37 |
| tobberydberg | ? | 14:37 |
| zhipeng | huh ? | 14:38 |
| tobberydberg | why do you think it is a double? | 14:38 |
| zhipeng | o haha | 14:38 |
| zhipeng | doable | 14:38 |
| seanhandley | do-able | 14:38 |
| zhipeng | can be done | 14:38 |
| seanhandley | aka possible | 14:38 |
| seanhandley | can-do | 14:39 |
| tobberydberg | Even though sessions are interesting...these discussions are great... | 14:39 |
| tobberydberg | hahaha | 14:39 |
| seanhandley | :D | 14:39 |
| tobberydberg | note to self...learn to read... | 14:39 |
| zhipeng | everything lost in translation lol | 14:39 |
| seanhandley | So you're submitting two sessions tobberydberg ? | 14:39 |
| seanhandley | (forum sessions) | 14:40 |
| tobberydberg | 2 or 3 then...the two we have there, and I look into the last one...need to figure out what BoF really is about... | 14:40 |
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| seanhandley | ok, fine :) | 14:40 |
| seanhandley | I need to leave in 5 mins or so | 14:40 |
| tobberydberg | could be that is a "double" to that... | 14:41 |
| zhipeng | BoF is like Forum without the host | 14:41 |
| seanhandley | Do we need to discuss anything related to the SIG transformation? | 14:41 |
| tobberydberg | so, a general discussion about anything? | 14:41 |
| tobberydberg | regarding the group then I guess | 14:41 |
| seanhandley | oic - I always wondered what made BoF different | 14:41 |
| zhipeng | about a set topic for sure | 14:41 |
| zhipeng | Birth of a feather | 14:41 |
| tobberydberg | ok, so could be about PCWG goals? | 14:41 |
| zhipeng | anyways on SIG | 14:41 |
| zhipeng | as I wrote on the etherpad | 14:41 |
| tobberydberg | yes, know the name...not the purpose of it =) | 14:42 |
| zhipeng | I've pinged Melvin | 14:42 |
| tobberydberg | good | 14:42 |
| tobberydberg | I sent them an email a week ago or so | 14:42 |
| zhipeng | so he should be able to give an answer in a day or two | 14:42 |
| zhipeng | if not I'm gonna ping him to death | 14:42 |
| seanhandley | heheh | 14:42 |
| zhipeng | \m/ | 14:42 |
| seanhandley | Good tactic | 14:42 |
| seanhandley | DeathPing | 14:42 |
| zhipeng | pingtroll | 14:43 |
| tobberydberg | you new nick! | 14:43 |
| zhipeng | lol | 14:43 |
| seanhandley | heh :D | 14:43 |
| tobberydberg | ok, then we leave it at that for now! | 14:43 |
| seanhandley | Cool - so we can follow up on that when Melvin responds | 14:43 |
| seanhandley | Great! | 14:43 |
| zhipeng | yep | 14:43 |
| tobberydberg | I'll post 2 then of BoF can be used for that! | 14:44 |
| pilgrimstack | ok ;) | 14:44 |
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| zhipeng | oh another action item could be put down for me | 14:44 |
| zhipeng | I need to contact Tom to get the meetup series officially | 14:44 |
| zhipeng | recognized | 14:44 |
| seanhandley | #action zhipeng DeathPing Melvin for a response on the SIG transformation process | 14:44 |
| zhipeng | will do that tmr since I remember he's living in Taiwan | 14:44 |
| seanhandley | #action zhipeng Contact Tom to get the meetup series officially recognised | 14:45 |
| zhipeng | oh man not the log | 14:45 |
| zhipeng | lol | 14:45 |
| seanhandley | ok - any other business ? | 14:47 |
| seanhandley | I need to shoot off anyhow | 14:47 |
| seanhandley | so maybe chat more in #openstack-publiccloud if necessary :) | 14:47 |
| zhipeng | yes we can :) | 14:47 |
| tobberydberg | you are free to leave seanhandley =) | 14:47 |
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| seanhandley | I have to end the meeting then I guess, cause I started it | 14:47 |
| tobberydberg | I dont think I have something else today... | 14:47 |
| seanhandley | #endmeeting | 14:48 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 27 14:48:02 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:48 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/publiccloud_wg/2017/publiccloud_wg.2017-09-27-14.04.html | 14:48 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/publiccloud_wg/2017/publiccloud_wg.2017-09-27-14.04.txt | 14:48 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/publiccloud_wg/2017/publiccloud_wg.2017-09-27-14.04.log.html | 14:48 |
| seanhandley | Thanks zhipeng tobberydberg pilgrimstack | 14:48 |
| seanhandley | speak to you all soon o/ | 14:48 |
| seanhandley | Safe flight home tobberydberg | 14:48 |
| tobberydberg | I think it's possible to add chairs, but that is fine | 14:48 |
| zhipeng | every one have a nice day | 14:48 |
| tobberydberg | Thanks seanhandley! | 14:48 |
| tobberydberg | You too zhipeng | 14:48 |
| tobberydberg | Talk in the meeting tomorrow? | 14:48 |
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| zhipeng | yep | 14:49 |
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| markvoelker | #startmeeting interopwg | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 27 16:00:21 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is markvoelker. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'interopwg' | 16:00 |
| markvoelker | #chair hogepodge eglute | 16:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: eglute hogepodge markvoelker | 16:00 |
| markvoelker | Anyone around for InteropWG today? =) | 16:00 |
| mguiney | o/ | 16:01 |
| markvoelker | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropVertigo.16 Today's agenda | 16:01 |
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| * markvoelker waves at mguiney | 16:01 | |
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| markvoelker | Please take a minute to look over the agenda and see if anything's missing | 16:02 |
| hogepodge | I'm only partially available for the meeting today. On mobile at a hospital. Nothing to worry about everything is fine. | 16:02 |
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| eglute | o/ | 16:02 |
| markvoelker | hogepodge: ack | 16:02 |
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| markvoelker | Ok, let's dive in.... | 16:03 |
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| markvoelker | #topic Denver PTG | 16:03 |
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| markvoelker | We had a couple of actions to follow-up on from Denver. | 16:03 |
| Rockyg | o/ | 16:03 |
| markvoelker | The ones listed here had to do with microversioning | 16:04 |
| markvoelker | (e.g. do we need it in the schema and what should that look like) | 16:04 |
| markvoelker | Here's the etherpad from the microversion session in Denver by the way: | 16:05 |
| markvoelker | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropDenver2017PTG_Microversions Etherpad for Microversion Session | 16:05 |
| markvoelker | hogepodge is only partly available today, but I don't think I've seen anything further on this yet so I'll assume it's on his backlog. =) | 16:06 |
| eglute | markvoelker i think you are right! | 16:06 |
| hogepodge | Nothing new | 16:06 |
| eglute | though, cinder will also require microversion support | 16:06 |
| eglute | so maybe mguiney can help with that as well? | 16:06 |
| mguiney | be glad to help, if needed | 16:07 |
| eglute | oh, i am jumping ahead. that would be maybe for microversion matrix | 16:07 |
| eglute | sorry | 16:07 |
| markvoelker | Eh, they're intertwined | 16:07 |
| mguiney | though i really need to sit down and figure out what all is on my docket, rather than free-form juggling, as I have been | 16:07 |
| hogepodge | We have the initial versions. I need to provide a schemas update | 16:08 |
| markvoelker | Nifty. We'll look for that when it posts then. OK, anything further on this? | 16:08 |
| eglute | not from me | 16:09 |
| markvoelker | Moving on then... | 16:09 |
| markvoelker | #topic OpenStack Summit Sydney | 16:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Summit Sydney (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:09 | |
| markvoelker | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/summit-schedule/events/19867/interop-working-group?BackURL=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.openstack.org%2Fsummit%2Fsydney-2017%2Fsummit-schedule%2Fglobal-search%3Ft%3DEgle%23eventid%3D19867 Interop WG Forum session | 16:10 |
| eglute | I will not be attending this summit... markvoelker and hogepodge will take the lead for interop things in Sydney | 16:10 |
| markvoelker | #info There will be an InteropWG session during the Forum on Tuesdeay 1:50-2:30pm in C2.4 | 16:10 |
| markvoelker | eglute: ++, I'll start working up some content. BTW, who do we talk to about updating the schedule entry? | 16:11 |
| hogepodge | If you have any other forum topics please submit them for consideration | 16:11 |
| eglute | markvoelker i am not sure, i will email someone, i think they have a speaker mailing list | 16:12 |
| markvoelker | Ok. If there are other sessions of interest for interop folks, feel free to stick them in the pad here folks. | 16:13 |
| eglute | thanks markvoelker | 16:13 |
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| * markvoelker is planning to briefly mention some of the new stuff we're working on during another talk | 16:13 | |
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| markvoelker | Ok, on to... | 16:14 |
| markvoelker | #topic Vertical Program Update | 16:14 |
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| markvoelker | At the PTG we winnowed down the list of potential inclusions to a shorter list | 16:15 |
| markvoelker | There's a pad from that session here for reference: | 16:15 |
| markvoelker | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropDenver2017PTG_Verticals Pad from Verticals Session at PTG | 16:15 |
| markvoelker | I've also received some helpful info from folks involved with various NFV communities (ONAP, OPNFV, ETSI) | 16:16 |
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| markvoelker | There are a couple of links in the etherpad today that folks may want to pick through at their leisure | 16:16 |
| markvoelker | I'm also going to be attending an OPNFV testing sig meeting this week | 16:17 |
| markvoelker | Feel free to join if you're interested: https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/meetings/Test+Working+Group+Weekly+Meeting | 16:17 |
| markvoelker | #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/meetings/Test+Working+Group+Weekly+Meeting TEst Working Group Weekly meeting (will discuss OPNFV/OpenStack collaboration this week) | 16:18 |
| Rockyg | Time? | 16:18 |
| markvoelker | Rockyg: September 28th 3 PM UTC | 16:18 |
| eglute | markvoelker what will be discussed there? specifically openstack things, or? | 16:19 |
| markvoelker | Eglute: how we might formalize some collaboration between OPNFV and OpenStack on testing and interop | 16:19 |
| Rockyg | The refstack panel on refstack and OPNFV is now up on the forum session board. | 16:19 |
| markvoelker | BAsically some of the stuff we've talked with Georg et al about in the past | 16:19 |
| eglute | oh cool! i think it might be worthwhile to send that to the mailing list as well | 16:20 |
| Rockyg | catherineD won't be at summit, so it could use someone who knows it, like hogepodge | 16:20 |
| markvoelker | From the agenda link I posted: Cross collaboration with OpenStack * What could/should be upstream? * Long duration/resiliency/robustness strategy * Plugfest: common activities * ... | 16:21 |
| Rockyg | And we agreed there should be a working session to layout what is needed in refstack. Even if we have nobody yet to do the work | 16:21 |
| markvoelker | Sure | 16:21 |
| markvoelker | Past all that, I've also been working on distilling what we talked about in Denver and the pointers I received from various NFV folks into a first pass at scoring. It's looking like I can get a draft posted this week (Famous Last Words) | 16:22 |
| hogepodge | I need scheduling information to see if I can fit it into my schedule | 16:22 |
| Rockyg | fantastic | 16:23 |
| hogepodge | No promises | 16:23 |
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| hogepodge | Please forward it to me by email that would be helpful | 16:23 |
| markvoelker | Ok, I think that about it does it for my update...anything else? | 16:24 |
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| eglute | nope | 16:24 |
| markvoelker | #topic 2018.01 Scoring | 16:25 |
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| markvoelker | I see we have an early draft on Swift up already...nice work mguiney! | 16:25 |
| mguiney | there's actually a change I may make to the current patch | 16:25 |
| markvoelker | The rest of you laggards get to work (/me wags finger at self) | 16:25 |
| markvoelker | =p | 16:26 |
| mguiney | not a ton has changed, though, as far as scorable capabilites in swift go | 16:26 |
| markvoelker | mguiney: Cool. I wouldn't expect to see a lot of churn here, it's a pretty stable set now. | 16:26 |
| notmyname | mguiney: although I'm (still) not super comfortable with the giant scoring tables (familiarity, not disdain), I'm happy to help with swift stuff as you have questions | 16:27 |
| mguiney | notmyname: thank you, i am going to review it myself and see if i have any lingering questions | 16:28 |
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| markvoelker | I'll be reaching out to a few folks on scoring hopefully this week, but I've been putting a little more time into the verticals stuff since I'm not expecting drastic changes in Neutron. | 16:29 |
| markvoelker | Anyone else have scoring updates/questions? | 16:29 |
| mguiney | as mentioned in the doc, cinder is microversioned now, so that may have to wait a sec, as far as scoring goes | 16:30 |
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| hogepodge | The scoring can be independent of the schema. We know max version | 16:31 |
| mguiney | ah alright... will get that underway, then | 16:31 |
| hogepodge | So can consider the new capabilities. | 16:32 |
| markvoelker | Just as a general reminder too, we'll be looking at stuff supported as far back as Newton for this round | 16:33 |
| markvoelker | Ok, moving along to add-on programs | 16:33 |
| markvoelker | #topic Add-on Programs | 16:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Add-on Programs (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:34 | |
| markvoelker | hogepodge: I know you have limited availability today, but anything you want to update us on? | 16:34 |
| hogepodge | No | 16:34 |
| hogepodge | Th | 16:34 |
| markvoelker | Ok, we'll move along then | 16:34 |
| markvoelker | #topic Future project consultation | 16:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Future project consultation (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:35 | |
| markvoelker | Nothing new to report here yet for me | 16:35 |
| markvoelker | ANyone else? | 16:35 |
| eglute | not here :) | 16:35 |
| markvoelker | Ok, last agenda item then | 16:36 |
| markvoelker | #topic Shoutouts to folks already passing 2017.09 | 16:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Shoutouts to folks already passing 2017.09 (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:36 | |
| Rockyg | cool! | 16:36 |
| markvoelker | Just an FYI, I counted 4 vendors whose Marketplace entries have already been updated to reflect 2017.09 as of this morning | 16:36 |
| eglute | :D | 16:36 |
| eglute | nice | 16:37 |
| markvoelker | So, pretty neat to see folks getting this done so soon after the Guideline was approved | 16:37 |
| Rockyg | can we get ml post on this? | 16:37 |
| markvoelker | Rockyg: sure if you write one. =-p | 16:37 |
| Rockyg | I'd like to highlight it for some folks. | 16:37 |
| markvoelker | #topic Open Floor | 16:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Floor (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:37 | |
| markvoelker | Rockyg: go for it | 16:38 |
| Rockyg | Just need the list and I'll write. | 16:38 |
| markvoelker | AFAIK it was SUSE, VMware, Hyper-C, and Incloud | 16:38 |
| markvoelker | (as of this morning) | 16:38 |
| Rockyg | Is there a place anyone can find a condensed list? | 16:38 |
| hogepodge | We're doing a major push to get all entries up to date for Sydney | 16:38 |
| markvoelker | RockyG: just browse https://www.openstack.org/marketplace/ | 16:39 |
| hogepodge | Some vendors who don't update will be dropped with expired contracts | 16:39 |
| Rockyg | What about the public cloud that already has pike running? | 16:39 |
| Rockyg | Good info, hogepodge | 16:39 |
| markvoelker | Rockyg: see https://www.openstack.org/marketplace/public-clouds/ (none listed with 2017.09....yet) | 16:40 |
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| Rockyg | ok | 16:40 |
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| markvoelker | On a mildly-related topic, I noticed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/507695/ (preliminary patch to disable anonymous test uploads), so folks who are working on 2017.09 compliance may want to take that as an extra nudge to set up SSH keys now. =) | 16:42 |
| markvoelker | Docs here if you haven't seen them already: https://github.com/openstack/refstack/blob/master/doc/source/uploading_private_results.rst | 16:42 |
| eglute | thanks markvoelker | 16:42 |
| eglute | and hogepodge | 16:42 |
| markvoelker | OK, anything else folks want to bring up? | 16:43 |
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| markvoelker | IF not I think we can wrap up early... | 16:43 |
| Rockyg | K. that's something else to put in the email | 16:43 |
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| hogepodge | Yes, working out the best way to disable anonymous uploads as part of our ongoing efforts for compliance tracking | 16:46 |
| hogepodge | It's time | 16:46 |
| hogepodge | But we'll give warning | 16:46 |
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| markvoelker | OK gang, I think that's it for this week's edition...see you next week, same bat-time, same bat-channel | 16:47 |
| markvoelker | #endmeeting | 16:47 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:47 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 27 16:47:40 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:47 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interopwg/2017/interopwg.2017-09-27-16.00.html | 16:47 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interopwg/2017/interopwg.2017-09-27-16.00.txt | 16:47 |
| eglute | thank you markvoelker!!! | 16:47 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interopwg/2017/interopwg.2017-09-27-16.00.log.html | 16:47 |
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| mguiney | have a good day, y'all! | 16:48 |
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| dansmith | #startmeeting nova_cells | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 27 17:00:00 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dansmith. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova_cells)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_cells' | 17:00 |
| mriedem | o/ | 17:00 |
| melwitt | o/ | 17:00 |
| dansmith | doesn't look like surya is around | 17:01 |
| dansmith | assuming I remember that nick properly | 17:01 |
| mriedem | tssurya: here? | 17:01 |
| dansmith | oh forgot there was a t in front | 17:01 |
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| dansmith | anyway | 17:01 |
| dansmith | #topic bugs | 17:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: nova_cells)" | 17:01 | |
| mriedem | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=cells&orderby=-datecreated&start=0 | 17:02 |
| mriedem | i was poking through those the other day | 17:02 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+topic:bug/1715533 | 17:02 |
| mriedem | i've got those backports lined up for the map_instances things | 17:02 |
| mriedem | *thing | 17:02 |
| dansmith | cool | 17:02 |
| dansmith | I shall leave that open | 17:03 |
| dansmith | anything else we should discuss here/ | 17:03 |
| mriedem | umm, | 17:03 |
| mriedem | no. we should just scrub that list at some point | 17:03 |
| dansmith | yeah | 17:03 |
| mriedem | probably cells v1 things in there we won't fix | 17:03 |
| dansmith | aye | 17:03 |
| dansmith | #topic open reviews | 17:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open reviews (Meeting topic: nova_cells)" | 17:04 | |
| dansmith | before I get to whining about my instance list set, anything we should note here? | 17:04 |
| dansmith | ed has the selection patches and spec up for review, | 17:04 |
| dansmith | which I've been trying to circle back to every once in a while | 17:04 |
| mriedem | are you lumping the alternate hosts stuff in with that as well? | 17:04 |
| mriedem | i know he has a spec for both | 17:04 |
| dansmith | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/placement-allocation-requests | 17:05 |
| dansmith | it's all part of the same effort yeah | 17:05 |
| mriedem | ok, i haven't reviewed any of it yet | 17:06 |
| mriedem | are there any major issues? | 17:06 |
| dansmith | well, the limits thing might be, but I haven't gone back around to that since yesterday | 17:06 |
| dansmith | anything else before we get to instance list stuff? | 17:08 |
| mriedem | nope | 17:08 |
| dansmith | okay, so, for the logs: | 17:08 |
| dansmith | mriedem did some perf testing with and without the base instance list cutover patch | 17:08 |
| dansmith | and seemed to measure some slowerness with the patch applied | 17:09 |
| dansmith | I tried to reproduce and I don't see the differing behavior | 17:09 |
| dansmith | but in the process, | 17:09 |
| dansmith | we probably uncovered some placement issues, | 17:09 |
| dansmith | and definitely are seeing a large performance different (with and without the patch applied) between 2.1 and 2.53 | 17:09 |
| dansmith | like going from average of 6s per request to 9s for listing 1000 instances | 17:10 |
| mriedem | yup, plus you can't create 500 instances at once | 17:10 |
| dansmith | details are here: | 17:10 |
| dansmith | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-instance-list | 17:10 |
| dansmith | mriedem: that's the placement thing I mentioned | 17:10 |
| mriedem | oh right | 17:10 |
| dansmith | so right now, I'm running every microversion from 1 to 53 for 10x and recording the results | 17:11 |
| dansmith | I'm up to 2.22 on master | 17:11 |
| dansmith | and so far I'm still at ~6s | 17:11 |
| dansmith | looking for a jump | 17:11 |
| dansmith | https://imgur.com/a/SHGmi | 17:11 |
| melwitt | neat | 17:12 |
| dansmith | mriedem: when you got your 30s run on my patch, did you run that a bunch of times or just once? | 17:12 |
| dansmith | I know it was 10x per, | 17:12 |
| dansmith | but I see some pretty big variances that correlate to other things on the system happening, so I'm just wondering if you being in a public cloud instance skewed one run | 17:13 |
| mriedem | for GET /servers/detail with 2.53? | 17:13 |
| dansmith | mine is running with plenty of ram, cpu and disk IO | 17:13 |
| dansmith | yeah | 17:13 |
| mriedem | it was just 10x in a loop | 17:13 |
| dansmith | right but you didn't run the 10x loop a couple more times? | 17:13 |
| mriedem | 46.3s was the highest | 17:13 |
| mriedem | no | 17:13 |
| dansmith | okay | 17:13 |
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| mriedem | i'm running loops of 10 with 1000 active instances with your big patch now | 17:14 |
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| dansmith | okay | 17:14 |
| mriedem | otherwise yeah doing perf testing on a public cloud vm isn't ideal, | 17:14 |
| mriedem | but it's basically all i've got | 17:14 |
| dansmith | yeah, it's fine, it's just good to keep it in mind if we have an outlier we can't explain | 17:15 |
| dansmith | anyway, | 17:15 |
| dansmith | since I've got my thing up I'm going to keep poking at master, my patch, and the one that does the fault joining | 17:15 |
| dansmith | at this point, | 17:15 |
| dansmith | I think maybe we might want to drop the fault join because it doesn't really seem to help (and may hurt in its current form) | 17:16 |
| dansmith | ah fsck, my token expired at 2.27 :P | 17:16 |
| dansmith | so, anything else on this? | 17:17 |
| mriedem | ha | 17:17 |
| mriedem | yeah i have to remember to refresh that every once in a while | 17:18 |
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| mriedem | i don't have anything else on this | 17:18 |
| dansmith | I have the timed loop isolated so I should just fetch a token before I run it each time | 17:18 |
| dansmith | okay | 17:18 |
| dansmith | #topic open discussion | 17:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: nova_cells)" | 17:18 | |
| dansmith | anything else on any subject? | 17:18 |
| mriedem | i've got a todo to circle back on forum topics | 17:19 |
| mriedem | which i'll bring up in the team meeting tomorrow | 17:19 |
| mriedem | and probably in the ML again before friday | 17:19 |
| melwitt | just a FYI, I've been working on some cell databases testing stuff, to try to make our env more like reality to help catch more bugs in testing | 17:19 |
| dansmith | melwitt: functional or devstack? | 17:19 |
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| mriedem | functional, it's the cells db fixture, | 17:20 |
| mriedem | it defaults a context | 17:20 |
| melwitt | dansmith: functional. namely trying to rejigger the way we use the fixture to see more reality | 17:20 |
| mriedem | which can mask bugs when we should be targeting in code but aren't | 17:20 |
| dansmith | ah I see | 17:20 |
| mriedem | we've had a few bugs slip through testing b/c of that | 17:20 |
| dansmith | yeah | 17:20 |
| melwitt | not sure what yall are gonna think of it but, I've almost got it working (had to fix some tests). so I'll let you know when that's up | 17:20 |
| mriedem | and then my huawei masters beat me | 17:21 |
| melwitt | lol | 17:21 |
| dansmith | okay anything else? | 17:21 |
| mriedem | fortunately they don't care as much about instance list performance | 17:21 |
| mriedem | only server create and delete performance | 17:21 |
| mriedem | oh wait, nvm, they care about instance list too... | 17:22 |
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| mriedem | f me | 17:22 |
| melwitt | well, you found that delete takes forever though | 17:22 |
| mriedem | so did they | 17:22 |
| melwitt | which is really weird | 17:22 |
| melwitt | oh | 17:22 |
| mriedem | but we can talk about that in -nova since dan is getting knifey | 17:22 |
| dansmith | instance delete is pretty similar to instance boot | 17:22 |
| dansmith | in terms of things involved | 17:22 |
| mriedem | except, | 17:22 |
| mriedem | it's serialized | 17:22 |
| mriedem | unlike boot | 17:22 |
| dansmith | eh? | 17:23 |
| mriedem | where networking and bdms are concurrent | 17:23 |
| dansmith | serialized where? | 17:23 |
| mriedem | whatever the one of 10 methods in the compute manager cleans up network and volume attachments | 17:23 |
| mriedem | _shutdown_instance? | 17:23 |
| dansmith | oh you mean serialized in the delete process, not across all instances being deleted | 17:23 |
| mriedem | right | 17:24 |
| dansmith | gotcha | 17:24 |
| mriedem | i think the public cloud team made that concurrent | 17:24 |
| mriedem | they've done lots of things... | 17:24 |
| mriedem | dims and i are trying to figure it out | 17:24 |
| dansmith | anyway, yeah, we're off topic | 17:24 |
| dansmith | so I think we're good to end, yes? | 17:24 |
| mriedem | yes | 17:24 |
| melwitt | yes | 17:24 |
| dansmith | #endmeeting | 17:24 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 27 17:24:44 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:24 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2017/nova_cells.2017-09-27-17.00.html | 17:24 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2017/nova_cells.2017-09-27-17.00.txt | 17:24 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2017/nova_cells.2017-09-27-17.00.log.html | 17:24 |
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| ying_zuo | #startmeeting horizon | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 27 20:00:22 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ying_zuo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 20:00 |
| ying_zuo | Hi everyone :) | 20:00 |
| e0ne_ | Hi | 20:00 |
| david-lyle | o/ | 20:00 |
| gary-smith | o/ | 20:01 |
| jeremy_moffitt | o/ | 20:01 |
| ying_zuo | o/ | 20:01 |
| ying_zuo | #topic Notices | 20:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Notices (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:02 | |
| ying_zuo | #info Stable Releases | 20:02 |
| ying_zuo | There have been a few patches merged since the last release of stable/ocata and stable/pike, so I am planning to cut another release for them in a few days. | 20:02 |
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| ying_zuo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/497739/ | 20:02 |
| ying_zuo | This will be the last patch included in the next stable/ocata release. | 20:02 |
| ying_zuo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/505986/ | 20:02 |
| ying_zuo | If this one looks good to other cores, it will be the last one included in the next stable/pike release. | 20:02 |
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| ying_zuo | #info Forum Sessions for Sydney Summit | 20:04 |
| ying_zuo | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/horizon-sydney-forum-topics | 20:04 |
| ying_zuo | I will propose a session to gather user feedback for Horizon. If you have any questions or suggested topics for the session, please add them on this etherpad. | 20:04 |
| lucasxu | o/ | 20:04 |
| ying_zuo | Other than this feedback session, are there any other sessions that anyone wants to suggest? | 20:04 |
| david-lyle | are they doing onboarding sessions again? | 20:05 |
| ying_zuo | I think so | 20:05 |
| david-lyle | we skipped last time, might be worthwhile | 20:06 |
| ying_zuo | we can propose that | 20:06 |
| david-lyle | I think attendance was hit or miss | 20:06 |
| ying_zuo | yes, I think that will be good too | 20:06 |
| lucasxu | i don't find any in the schedule, guess not posted yet? | 20:06 |
| e0ne_ | I'm afraid of not many developers will attend this Summit :( | 20:06 |
| ying_zuo | schedule for the summit is posted on the website | 20:06 |
| ying_zuo | the schedule for forum has not been set | 20:07 |
| david-lyle | these may be separate, not sure | 20:07 |
| ying_zuo | the deadline to propose the forum sessions for all the teams is this Friday | 20:07 |
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| lucasxu | yeah, i mean the on-board sessions. last time was there | 20:07 |
| lucasxu | okay. | 20:07 |
| david-lyle | ok, they may have done away with those, I haven't seen an email about them either | 20:08 |
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| ying_zuo | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-September/121783.html | 20:09 |
| ying_zuo | it's not tagged properly so I missed initially with my email filter too | 20:09 |
| robcresswell | o/ Sorry I'm late | 20:09 |
| david-lyle | I don't that type mentioned in there | 20:10 |
| david-lyle | *don't see | 20:10 |
| ying_zuo | onboarding session? | 20:10 |
| david-lyle | yes | 20:10 |
| ying_zuo | I think that's considered as a forum session | 20:10 |
| david-lyle | may have quietly killed the idea | 20:11 |
| ying_zuo | I will go ahead and propose that :) | 20:11 |
| robcresswell | ying_zuo: Right, but they dont mention it in the email either | 20:11 |
| robcresswell | Can't hurt to ask though. | 20:11 |
| ying_zuo | yes | 20:12 |
| ying_zuo | it's still up to them to approve it or not | 20:13 |
| ying_zuo | okay. I will propose the feedback session and onboarding session | 20:15 |
| ying_zuo | #topic Bugs Review | 20:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs Review (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:15 | |
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| ying_zuo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1713724 | 20:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1713724 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "Edit project validates quota against resources used in current project instead of edited project." [High,Confirmed] | 20:15 |
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| gary-smith | Marked it as high because I didn't see a great workaround for it | 20:16 |
| ying_zuo | I think it's high too | 20:17 |
| robcresswell | Whats the workaround, just scope to that project then edit? | 20:18 |
| ying_zuo | that sounds like one | 20:19 |
| david-lyle | not necessarily | 20:20 |
| david-lyle | you would have to have the right role on that project scoping | 20:20 |
| gary-smith | that was my thought as well. Might not have the right role | 20:20 |
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| david-lyle | passing the project id as an argument shouldn't be too complex | 20:21 |
| ying_zuo | you mean the admin role? | 20:21 |
| david-lyle | ying_zuo, not necessarily | 20:21 |
| david-lyle | :) | 20:21 |
| robcresswell | Oh, but thats just a case of needing a more accurate error message if your role is incorrect then? Or filtering that info | 20:21 |
| david-lyle | but could be, whatever role enables you to edit quotas on a project | 20:21 |
| robcresswell | As in, we need to make sure we pass the right ID, but also return a useful message if they dont have the right role even when we do pass the right ID. | 20:22 |
| david-lyle | I am not really sure where there error is, now that I reread | 20:22 |
| david-lyle | we don't set quotas in the admin views | 20:23 |
| david-lyle | other than defaults | 20:23 |
| david-lyle | and those are cross-project | 20:23 |
| david-lyle | I'm guessing they mean the identity dash? | 20:23 |
| gary-smith | That's where I saw it. Identity > Projects > Modify Quotas | 20:24 |
| robcresswell | I assume so | 20:24 |
| gary-smith | (for a particular project) | 20:24 |
| robcresswell | I think they're using "admin interface" as a generic term, not meaning the Admin dash. | 20:24 |
| robcresswell | Luckily, neither "admin" nor "interface" are overloaded terms :p | 20:25 |
| gary-smith | yup, that's how I interpreted that term | 20:25 |
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| ying_zuo | if the user doesn't have the right role, then the manage quotas action shouldn't be visible | 20:29 |
| ying_zuo | assuming the user has the right role, what can be cause for this issue? | 20:29 |
| ying_zuo | project id not being passed in? | 20:30 |
| david-lyle | gary-smith, you could repro this? | 20:30 |
| david-lyle | ying_zuo, yes | 20:30 |
| gary-smith | If they have the role to manage the quota does it mean they have the ability to see and choose the project? | 20:30 |
| gary-smith | david-lyle: yes. it's pretty simple | 20:30 |
| david-lyle | quotas is a mess | 20:30 |
| e0ne_ | +1 :( | 20:31 |
| david-lyle | it's a mix of project scope and admin scope | 20:31 |
| david-lyle | s/admin/domain/ | 20:31 |
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| david-lyle | so we're making project scoped token calls when all other data is domain scoped | 20:31 |
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| david-lyle | so you have to have the correct domain role and correct project role | 20:32 |
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| david-lyle | I'll take it | 20:32 |
| ying_zuo | thanks david-lyle | 20:32 |
| ying_zuo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1280094 | 20:33 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1280094 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "admin password treachery" [Medium,Confirmed] | 20:33 |
| david-lyle | that relationship is why we don't show quotas for domain admins | 20:33 |
| david-lyle | fwiw | 20:33 |
| david-lyle | wow, 3.5 years old | 20:34 |
| ying_zuo | :) | 20:34 |
| david-lyle | let's home the state of master is better ? | 20:34 |
| david-lyle | *hope | 20:34 |
| robcresswell | I'm sure they talked about axing this... | 20:34 |
| david-lyle | I know we added the ability to hide setting the admin pass | 20:35 |
| david-lyle | I'm not sure our documentation is any better | 20:35 |
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| david-lyle | I'm fine with moving that to low at this point | 20:35 |
| david-lyle | hasn't seemed to be highly demanded | 20:35 |
| e0ne_ | david-lyle: +1 to set lower priority for this | 20:36 |
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| e0ne_ | It looks like an improvement, not a bug, IMO | 20:36 |
| ying_zuo | +1 | 20:37 |
| ying_zuo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1288386 | 20:38 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1288386 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "Heat status column incorrect in horizon" [Medium,Confirmed] | 20:38 |
| e0ne_ | Aren't we going to move Heat-related things to plugin? | 20:39 |
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| ying_zuo | yes. I guess we will skip those for now | 20:40 |
| robcresswell | tag it "heat" though | 20:40 |
| robcresswell | if it isnt already | 20:40 |
| e0ne_ | +1 | 20:40 |
| ying_zuo | it is | 20:40 |
| ying_zuo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1292624 | 20:40 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1292624 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "horizon messages not shown on redirect to logout" [Medium,Confirmed] | 20:40 |
| e0ne_ | It has heat tag already | 20:40 |
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| e0ne_ | This bug clear for me | 20:42 |
| david-lyle | we add a logout reason now | 20:42 |
| david-lyle | not sure what the bug is | 20:43 |
| e0ne_ | Mark it as incomplete? | 20:43 |
| ying_zuo | yes, not sure how that will cause issue for logout | 20:43 |
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| ying_zuo | the last one for today | 20:44 |
| ying_zuo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1312781 | 20:44 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1312781 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "Inconsistent data in the Overview Usage Summary" [Medium,Confirmed] | 20:44 |
| david-lyle | https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/master/horizon/middleware/base.py#L162 | 20:45 |
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| robcresswell | radomir did a bunch of work on the overview a little while back | 20:47 |
| e0ne_ | ying_zuo: IMO, such things should be done using some monitoring tools, not horizon | 20:47 |
| robcresswell | dont know how much difference that made | 20:47 |
| robcresswell | e0ne_: It just hits the Nova API for some basic info iirc. | 20:48 |
| robcresswell | Its a bit of a weird API tbh, the stats it gives back aren't terribly useful in some regards | 20:48 |
| e0ne_ | robcresswell: +1. We should show only that data, which is available via API's | 20:49 |
| david-lyle | not sure there is much to do on our end | 20:49 |
| e0ne_ | david-lyle: that's what we're talking about | 20:49 |
| david-lyle | I know, agreeing :) | 20:50 |
| robcresswell | e0ne_: I agree, I'm just not sure the bug is saying we should do any more. I think, if anything, its saying show less of the API data to make it less confusing. Hard to tell. | 20:50 |
| e0ne_ | :) | 20:50 |
| ying_zuo | alrighty | 20:50 |
| david-lyle | wish list? | 20:50 |
| ying_zuo | we got 10 minutes left | 20:51 |
| e0ne_ | I don't think Nova API has something like requested in the bug | 20:51 |
| david-lyle | or incomplete? | 20:51 |
| robcresswell | tbh, mark wont fix | 20:51 |
| e0ne_ | Won't fix | 20:51 |
| david-lyle | WFM | 20:51 |
| deshipu | robcresswell: I did? | 20:51 |
| robcresswell | deshipu: I thought you looked at simple-tenant-usage a while back? | 20:52 |
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| robcresswell | After some microversion / pagination change | 20:52 |
| deshipu | robcresswell: ah, but that was just pagination | 20:52 |
| deshipu | robcresswell: no user-visible changes | 20:52 |
| robcresswell | Yeah, I just thought you may have more input on the bug, thats all :) | 20:52 |
| robcresswell | But no worries | 20:52 |
| deshipu | sorry I've been quiet, but I really don't have a clue | 20:53 |
| ying_zuo | I guess we don't have time to start the open discussion today | 20:54 |
| e0ne_ | 5mins reminder | 20:54 |
| ying_zuo | If you have any questions, please bring it up in #openstack-horizon | 20:54 |
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| ying_zuo | thanks everyone for joining :) | 20:55 |
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| e0ne_ | See you next week | 20:55 |
| robcresswell | o/ | 20:55 |
| deshipu | bye | 20:55 |
| ying_zuo | #endmeeting | 20:55 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 27 20:55:47 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:55 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2017/horizon.2017-09-27-20.00.html | 20:55 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2017/horizon.2017-09-27-20.00.txt | 20:55 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2017/horizon.2017-09-27-20.00.log.html | 20:55 |
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