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| tobberydberg | o/ | 14:00 |
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| adriant | 'ello! | 14:01 |
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| tobberydberg | So who is here for the publiccloud-wg meeting? | 14:01 |
| Labedz | o/ | 14:01 |
| tobberydberg | Hi adriant! | 14:01 |
| tobberydberg | hi Labedz! | 14:01 |
| tobberydberg | already 3 of us =) | 14:01 |
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| tobberydberg | Are any of you at PTG? | 14:01 |
| wondra | Hello! | 14:02 |
| tobberydberg | welcome wondra! | 14:02 |
| tobberydberg | #startmeeting publiccloud-wg | 14:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 13 14:02:41 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tobberydberg. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: publiccloud-wg)" | 14:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'publiccloud_wg' | 14:02 |
| tobberydberg | Agenda can be found at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/publiccloud-wg | 14:03 |
| tobberydberg | Please put your name in there! | 14:03 |
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| tobberydberg | We are a few in here already, so I think that we start the meeting right away! | 14:04 |
| tobberydberg | 1. Review Action Points | 14:04 |
| tobberydberg | #topic 1. Review Action Points | 14:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "1. Review Action Points (Meeting topic: publiccloud-wg)" | 14:05 | |
| tobberydberg | Draft an email inviting a public cloud to participate in the scheme | 14:05 |
| tobberydberg | As I added to the agenda, email (like in the bottom of the linked etherpad) has been sent to the UC mailing list | 14:05 |
| tobberydberg | Have also seen that it has been forwarded to other lists already | 14:06 |
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| pilgrimstack | o/ | 14:06 |
| tobberydberg | welcome pilgrimstack | 14:07 |
| tobberydberg | More people will spread the message as well | 14:07 |
| tobberydberg | 1.2 seanhandley zhipeng to have description of passport up by next meeting: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/OpenStack_Passport_desc_draft | 14:07 |
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| tobberydberg | As you can see, this is a work in progress, and I think that we will keep it here for a while and make good progress in London in two weeks | 14:09 |
| tobberydberg | seanhandley is away for his birthday today =) | 14:09 |
| tobberydberg | and I guess that zhipeng is at PTG | 14:09 |
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| tobberydberg | (feel free to interrupt with questions or comments) | 14:10 |
| tobberydberg | 1.3 tobberydberg to suggest weekly meetings instead of bi-weekly metings | 14:10 |
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| tobberydberg | As mentioned, have looked into meeting slot same time and same day even weeks, which is available | 14:11 |
| tobberydberg | ...lead us into next topic... | 14:11 |
| tobberydberg | #topic Should we change to weekly meetings? | 14:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Should we change to weekly meetings? (Meeting topic: publiccloud-wg)" | 14:11 | |
| tobberydberg | Any thought about this before moving into a vote? | 14:12 |
| wondra | I don't attend regularly so I will abstain. | 14:13 |
| pilgrimstack | did we already speak about filter to join the passeport program? | 14:13 |
| tobberydberg | right now we havn't, we just walked through the APs | 14:13 |
| pilgrimstack | by filter I imagine something like "OpenStack Powered" requirement | 14:14 |
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| tobberydberg | But earlier we have | 14:14 |
| tobberydberg | ah, ok...yes, we have talked about that, but nothing is final there | 14:15 |
| adriant | I can't easily attend much anyway simply because of timezone differences, so i can't really say much on weekly meetings :( | 14:15 |
| tobberydberg | We will come to that part later in the agenda | 14:15 |
| tobberydberg | ok adriant ... which is issue not only for you | 14:15 |
| tobberydberg | ...I guess.. | 14:15 |
| zhipengh[m] | Hey folks | 14:15 |
| tobberydberg | welcome zhipengh[m] | 14:16 |
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| zhipengh[m] | +1 if we do weekly meetings | 14:16 |
| tobberydberg | Another time of day the other week, would that make you join more often? | 14:16 |
| pilgrimstack | for me not | 14:17 |
| zhipengh[m] | tobberydberg: anything we want to discuss with Flanders ? He is here in Denver today | 14:17 |
| tobberydberg | I'm +1 for weekly meetings as well | 14:17 |
| pilgrimstack | why do we have this request? | 14:17 |
| pilgrimstack | for more velocity ? | 14:17 |
| tobberydberg | pilgrimstack: weekly meeting you mean? | 14:17 |
| pilgrimstack | yep | 14:18 |
| tobberydberg | Yes, we felt lately that 2 weeks were too much time between decisions | 14:18 |
| adriant | tobberydberg: potentially an hour earlier, but don't worry too much about me. What would be nice is updates as to outcomes, but I should really be proactive and just read the meeting irc logs and etherpads. | 14:19 |
| tobberydberg | adriant: well, we can be better at sending out recaps, even if that is just a link to the minutes... | 14:20 |
| tobberydberg | But, we like to have as many people joining the discussions during meetings as well | 14:20 |
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| zhipengh[m] | An hour earlier is good for me as well :) | 14:22 |
| tobberydberg | So, just me and zhipengh[m] basically that is pro that, and not too many people here so lets push that to the next meeting, and I try to find potential other slots as well | 14:23 |
| zhipengh[m] | I know , just saying :) | 14:23 |
| tobberydberg | #action tobberydberg to find potential time slots wor even week meetings | 14:24 |
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| tobberydberg | #topic 3. Should the WG become a SIG? | 14:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "3. Should the WG become a SIG? (Meeting topic: publiccloud-wg)" | 14:24 | |
| tobberydberg | So, I posted a link that can be worth reading | 14:24 |
| pilgrimstack | one hour early is not good for OVH (@Labedz and @pilgrimstack) | 14:24 |
| tobberydberg | good to know Labedz and pilgrimstack | 14:25 |
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| tobberydberg | UC is planning a transformation of WGs to become SIGs | 14:25 |
| Labedz | for me is ok to keep bi-weekly but maybe we can spawn some meetings on-demant | 14:25 |
| Labedz | like to speed-up passport case | 14:26 |
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| tobberydberg | ok, an option as well of course | 14:26 |
| Labedz | so there will be only interested people | 14:26 |
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| tobberydberg | A SIG is basically the same thing under a new name | 14:27 |
| tobberydberg | Comments or questions about this? | 14:28 |
| Labedz | what is a difference? | 14:28 |
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| zhipengh[m] | And also the discussion on the feature list as well | 14:28 |
| tobberydberg | The suggestion from the Chairs that we accept to be early adopters of this | 14:28 |
| tobberydberg | As written in the gist (text from Melvins email) the difference is not much at all | 14:29 |
| pilgrimstack | For my information, what SIG means ? | 14:30 |
| tobberydberg | #link https://gist.github.com/tobberydberg/2002cd0e9fd9eb8e9a593be8312639cb | 14:30 |
| tobberydberg | Special Interest Group | 14:30 |
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| Labedz | ok then :) | 14:31 |
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| tobberydberg | A new mailinglist is the biggest practical change that we will see | 14:32 |
| adriant | so really we'd make a SIG for the passport project rather than a generic "Public cloud things" goal? | 14:32 |
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| adriant | it seems to require specific and defined scope/goal | 14:32 |
| adriant | or at least encourage | 14:33 |
| tobberydberg | No, the Public Cloud WG will become Public Cloud SIG | 14:33 |
| pilgrimstack | +1 for me | 14:34 |
| adriant | I'm not entirely sure though if the scope of our current group is well defined enough for that though? | 14:34 |
| zhipengh[m] | We could do tick tock | 14:35 |
| adriant | because many of the goals we have as part of this group, and public clouds as a whole is vague, and large | 14:35 |
| pilgrimstack | It's not a problem, or I should say it's not a bigger problem than with WG | 14:35 |
| zhipengh[m] | One week for the same time | 14:35 |
| tobberydberg | As I have understood it, it should be....and the suggestion to the conversion comes from the UC and people behind the definition, so I really hope it does =) | 14:35 |
| zhipengh[m] | One week for another time on openstack-publiccloud | 14:35 |
| pilgrimstack | It just simplify the onboarding in the group and the communications | 14:35 |
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| adriant | kk | 14:36 |
| tobberydberg | Lets put it to a vote | 14:36 |
| adriant | ultimately, just another name for the same thing then | 14:36 |
| tobberydberg | Feels a little like it yes | 14:37 |
| zhipengh[m] | SIGs are more autonomous | 14:37 |
| tobberydberg | #startvote Agree on accepting mrhillsmans suggestion to convert to the new SIG format ? yes, no | 14:37 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: Agree on accepting mrhillsmans suggestion to convert to the new SIG format ? Valid vote options are yes, no. | 14:37 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 14:37 |
| tobberydberg | #vote yes | 14:38 |
| adriant | #vote yes | 14:38 |
| Labedz | #vote yes | 14:38 |
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| pilgrimstack | #vote yes | 14:38 |
| adriant | provided the new mailing list gets enough traction, should be useful | 14:38 |
| tobberydberg | zhipengh[m] ? | 14:38 |
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| wondra | #vote yes | 14:39 |
| tobberydberg | absolutly | 14:39 |
| tobberydberg | #endvote | 14:39 |
| openstack | Voted on "Agree on accepting mrhillsmans suggestion to convert to the new SIG format ?" Results are | 14:39 |
| openstack | yes (5): adriant, Labedz, wondra, pilgrimstack, tobberydberg | 14:39 |
| tobberydberg | Thanks for that! | 14:39 |
| tobberydberg | #action tobberydberg to send information to UC about SIG conversion | 14:40 |
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| tobberydberg | #topic 4. Revisit: Agenda for WG fishbowl at OpenStack Days UK London in September | 14:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "4. Revisit: Agenda for WG fishbowl at OpenStack Days UK London in September (Meeting topic: publiccloud-wg)" | 14:40 | |
| tobberydberg | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MEETUPS-2017-publiccloud-wg | 14:41 |
| zhipengh[m] | #vote yes | 14:41 |
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| zhipengh[m] | Sorry there is delay | 14:41 |
| tobberydberg | Not much at the agenda for the first meet up in 1,5 week in London | 14:41 |
| zhipengh[m] | Vote yes | 14:41 |
| tobberydberg | Thanks zhipengh[m] =) | 14:41 |
| tobberydberg | I'm sure we will have a lot to talk about though | 14:42 |
| tobberydberg | Big focus will probably be Passport Program | 14:42 |
| adriant | we have a repo for that project right? | 14:43 |
| tobberydberg | Not for that project per say, but we as a group | 14:43 |
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| tobberydberg | #link https://github.com/openstack/publiccloud-wg | 14:44 |
| tobberydberg | What else should we put to the agenda? | 14:44 |
| tobberydberg | ...and...please signup as a participant if you joining the event | 14:45 |
| pilgrimstack | I pretty sure I wont be able to join in those Meetups, I'll join the conversation in Sydney | 14:46 |
| tobberydberg | Have a degree of understanding to that =) | 14:47 |
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| adriant | will be in Sydney, but not the recent meetup :( | 14:47 |
| tobberydberg | Please visit that link later otherwise if you have opinions...we will fore sure have an etherpad for those meetings as well | 14:48 |
| tobberydberg | #topic Revisit: BoF in Sydney - WG space - prefered day? Any movement on this? | 14:48 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Revisit: BoF in Sydney - WG space - prefered day? Any movement on this? (Meeting topic: publiccloud-wg)" | 14:48 | |
| tobberydberg | This is a request to the group from the UC | 14:49 |
| tobberydberg | ...a question... | 14:49 |
| tobberydberg | Would we like to have BoF Space ? | 14:50 |
| tobberydberg | and/or WG Space ? | 14:50 |
| tobberydberg | I would like to say yes to both | 14:50 |
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| tobberydberg | Any opinions to that? | 14:51 |
| tobberydberg | a room for us to discuss informally would be nice | 14:51 |
| tobberydberg | prefered day? | 14:52 |
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| pilgrimstack | checking | 14:52 |
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| tobberydberg | I have duties on monday as it stands right now | 14:52 |
| tobberydberg | But, we will have Forum sessions as well, and hard to say before we know when they are scheduled | 14:53 |
| pilgrimstack | I'm free the afternoons | 14:53 |
| tobberydberg | ok, good | 14:53 |
| tobberydberg | If we don't know more right now I put that in as a note | 14:54 |
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| tobberydberg | #action tobberydberg to signup for BoF Space and WG Space | 14:54 |
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| tobberydberg | #topic Passport Scheme Catchup (Mailout on 12th) | 14:56 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Passport Scheme Catchup (Mailout on 12th) (Meeting topic: publiccloud-wg)" | 14:56 | |
| tobberydberg | Time flies | 14:56 |
| tobberydberg | Timeline: #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/passport-timeline | 14:56 |
| tobberydberg | Short recap....foundation like this initiative a lot | 14:57 |
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| tobberydberg | they would really like to have something announced in Sydney | 14:57 |
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| tobberydberg | So, if you have read the email at UC mailinglist, that is the latest together with that timeline | 14:58 |
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| tobberydberg | In the email there are guidelines for the first stage | 14:58 |
| tobberydberg | Those guidelines is also presented at the signup form | 14:59 |
| tobberydberg | shit, time is up... | 14:59 |
| pilgrimstack | can you remind me the subject of this mail ? | 15:00 |
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| tobberydberg | [User-committee] OpenStack Passport Program​ | 15:00 |
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| tobberydberg | we will have to stop here for today, thanks to everyone! | 15:01 |
| pilgrimstack | there is no publiccloud word in the subject :) that's why we need the SIG :D | 15:01 |
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| tobberydberg | I encourage more discussions in "our" channel between the meetings | 15:01 |
| pilgrimstack | ok thx all | 15:01 |
| tobberydberg | see you in #openstack-publiccloud | 15:02 |
| tobberydberg | #endmeeting | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:02 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 13 15:02:10 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/publiccloud_wg/2017/publiccloud_wg.2017-09-13-14.02.html | 15:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/publiccloud_wg/2017/publiccloud_wg.2017-09-13-14.02.txt | 15:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/publiccloud_wg/2017/publiccloud_wg.2017-09-13-14.02.log.html | 15:02 |
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