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| gcb | #startmeeting oslo | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jul 3 14:00:07 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gcb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' | 14:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for amotoki, amrith, bknudson, bnemec, crushil, dansmith, dhellmann | 14:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for dims, dougwig, e0ne, electrocucaracha, flaper87, garyk, gcb | 14:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for GheRivero, haypo, jd__, jecarey, johnsom, jungleboyj, kgiusti | 14:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for kragniz, lhx_, lifeless, lxsli, Nakato, ozamiatin, rbradfor | 14:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for redrobot, rpodolyaka, sergmelikyan, sileht, spamaps, sreshetnyak, sreshetnyak | 14:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for stevemar, therve, thinrichs, toabctl, viktors, zhiyan, zzzeek | 14:00 |
| amrith | ./ | 14:00 |
| kgiusti | o/ | 14:00 |
| dims | o/ | 14:00 |
| daidv_ | o/ | 14:01 |
| namnh | o/ | 14:01 |
| gcb | amrith, kgiusti ,dims, daidv_, namnh \o/ | 14:01 |
| gcb | #topic Red flags for/from liaisons | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Red flags for/from liaisons (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 14:01 | |
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| amrith | nothing from trove | 14:02 |
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| gcb | amrith, ack, thanks | 14:03 |
| lhx_ | o/ | 14:03 |
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| gcb | hi lhx_ | 14:03 |
| lhx_ | hi, gcb | 14:04 |
| gcb | I found there is only one failure for cinder in http://logs.openstack.org/periodic/periodic-cinder-py27-with-oslo-master/7e3a366/testr_results.html.gz | 14:04 |
| gcb | will check it later | 14:04 |
| lhx_ | gcb, I will try it later | 14:04 |
| gcb | lhx_: thanks | 14:04 |
| gcb | #topic Releases for Pike | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Releases for Pike (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 14:04 | |
| gcb | master: https://review.openstack.org/479823 | 14:05 |
| gcb | stable/ocata: https://review.openstack.org/479116 | 14:05 |
| gcb | stable/newton: https://review.openstack.org/476017 | 14:05 |
| gcb | will release for stable branch at least one time each month | 14:08 |
| gcb | #topic Stuck Reviews | 14:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stuck Reviews (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 14:08 | |
| gcb | we have many doc-migration patches ready for approval, just check https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+branch:master+topic:doc-migration | 14:09 |
| gcb | dims: dhellmann has many patches which need +A :-) | 14:09 |
| dims | ouch, that's a lot | 14:10 |
| gcb | dims: it's easy to review if you follow the instructions in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/doc-migration-tracking | 14:11 |
| dims | ah it's everything (all projects). added is:watched to get a subset of them | 14:11 |
| dims | thanks gcb | 14:11 |
| gcb | namnh, around ? | 14:12 |
| namnh | gcb: yes, I am here | 14:12 |
| namnh | can I start our topic? | 14:12 |
| gcb | namnh, It's your turn :-) " How to generate a new configuration for (N+n) (n>=2) relase from the exist configuration at N release" | 14:12 |
| gcb | please go ahead | 14:13 |
| namnh | gcb: I and daidv_ come from the upgrade team of Fujitsu, we are interested in skip release upgrade | 14:13 |
| namnh | especially how to generate new compatible configuration for (N+2) release from exist our system (N release). | 14:13 |
| namnh | gcb: so our idea is to develop a tool in oslo.config that can generate a new configurations for (N+2) release from old config (N release) and a config-mapping file | 14:13 |
| namnh | No matter where our configurations is locating (file or etcd) and no matter how we are managing config version (Confd or so on). | 14:14 |
| namnh | We have read the malling-list that discuss about etcd and confd but even when we have multi backend support or not, have plugable driver like confd or not, we should support operator generate reliable new configuration from old release | 14:14 |
| namnh | For instance, we have config-mapping file at *Pike* release and keystone.conf at *Newton* release, with this tool, we can generate keystone.conf for Pike. | 14:15 |
| daidv_ | how do u think about it? | 14:16 |
| gcb | namnh, that's is an interesting function. I think I get your point | 14:17 |
| namnh | gcb: great, so how do you think about this idea? | 14:18 |
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| gcb | namnh: what' s your plan to implement it, I think we have some existing functions to support your idea like config-genrator | 14:20 |
| daidv_ | we knew that we can use yaml file is created by oslo-config-generator instead of config-mapping file in the near future in case we can declare full info about what options is replaced by something else like below link. | 14:21 |
| daidv_ | #link https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/43362700d8c52b2af0ebae8593cad57c968df377/keystone/conf/eventlet_server.py#L26-L37 | 14:21 |
| namnh | gcb: I and daidv_ are colleague | 14:23 |
| gcb | we also have been doing some related work like https://review.openstack.org/384559 , which can collect deprecated config options | 14:24 |
| gcb | just make sure we can leverage existing function :-) | 14:25 |
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| gcb | namnh: do you have the link of ML about the discussion | 14:25 |
| gcb | dhellmann, around, what do you think namh and daidv_ 's idea ? | 14:27 |
| namnh | gcb: for the malling-list, I am reading this malling-list: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-June/117943.html , is that your link? | 14:28 |
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| daidv_ | gcb: For "related work like https://review.openstack.org/384559", we also thought about that. But I think we have not have completely list Opts for deprecated config. | 14:29 |
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| daidv_ | in case we want to generate new configurations (from M to P for instance), we can loss some configs. | 14:31 |
| namnh | s/loss/lose/ | 14:31 |
| gcb | daidv_: please check https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451081/, its blueprint describes will list deprecated options | 14:32 |
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| daidv_ | gcb: I have tryed it to gen yaml file for some projects. | 14:34 |
| gcb | daiv_, namh: have you any details about how to implement the function ? I suggest post a commit to oslo-specs to describe the proposal | 14:34 |
| gcb | then, we can discuss the details in the review. In general , I like your ideas ,need more input | 14:35 |
| gcb | to decide how to implement it :-) | 14:36 |
| daidv_ | gcb: but as I said "we can lose some configurations." if we want to upgrade from N to N+5 or more. | 14:37 |
| namnh | gcb: let me overview this idea. we will create a config-mapping for each project, it's formal maybe is yaml | 14:38 |
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| namnh | and the config-file can be maintained by each projects | 14:39 |
| namnh | that they are expert in the project | 14:39 |
| namnh | and another input is config file like keystone.conf at old release | 14:40 |
| namnh | gcb: | 14:40 |
| gcb | the import thing is the config options' value, which version of code your tools will scan ? N+2 or N code ? | 14:42 |
| daidv_ | gcb: N+2 | 14:43 |
| gcb | we always got the config options list for each version with oslo-config-generator | 14:43 |
| gcb | how the config-file will be used ? | 14:44 |
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| namnh | gcb: sorry for my mistable. I mean this sentence "and the config-file can be maintained by each projects" is "and the config-mapping can be maintained by each projects" | 14:46 |
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| gcb | namnh, I didn't read the ML discussion before. the problem is got N+2 config options' values ,right ? | 14:48 |
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| gcb | namnh, "we can lose some configurations." means the values of configurations, right ? | 14:49 |
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| namnh | gcb: yes, you are right, that why we need two inputs: one is config-mapping at new release and one is config-file at old release. | 14:52 |
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| namnh | gcb: to generate a new config file for new release | 14:53 |
| gcb | what's information in config-mapping ? the values of config options should depend on each deployment, I don't think one config-mapping can handle it | 14:54 |
| daidv_ | gcb: config-mapping is the same idea with yaml file which generated by oslo-config-generator | 14:55 |
| daidv_ | but oslo-config-generator depend on deprecated configuration name in each Opt() | 14:56 |
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| gcb | hmm..., the meeting time is over, let's discuss at #openstack-olso | 14:59 |
| gcb | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jul 3 14:59:39 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2017/oslo.2017-07-03-14.00.html | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2017/oslo.2017-07-03-14.00.txt | 14:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2017/oslo.2017-07-03-14.00.log.html | 14:59 |
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| namnh | gcb: sure, please wait a moment | 15:00 |
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| rakhmerov | #startmeeting Mistral | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jul 3 15:01:33 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rakhmerov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'mistral' | 15:01 |
| d0ugal | o/ | 15:01 |
| rakhmerov | hey | 15:02 |
| rakhmerov | waiting.. | 15:02 |
| toure | hello | 15:02 |
| rakhmerov | hi toure | 15:02 |
| toure | rakhmerov hello | 15:02 |
| rbrady | o/ | 15:02 |
| rakhmerov | hi rbrady | 15:02 |
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| rbrady | hello rakhmerov. How are you doing? | 15:02 |
| rakhmerov | doing ok ) | 15:03 |
| rakhmerov | still alive | 15:03 |
| rakhmerov | you? | 15:03 |
| * d0ugal is alive too | 15:03 | |
| rakhmerov | :) | 15:04 |
| rakhmerov | it's funny | 15:04 |
| * toure is mostly alive | 15:04 | |
| d0ugal | but I hope you are feeling better rakhmerov! | 15:04 |
| rakhmerov | i was reading a book yesterday where the author has a joke about the word "job" | 15:04 |
| toure | +1 | 15:04 |
| rakhmerov | about what it means | 15:04 |
| rakhmerov | "just over broke" | 15:04 |
| rbrady | rakhmerov: I'm doing okay | 15:04 |
| rakhmerov | just a little better than a bankrupt ) kind of | 15:05 |
| d0ugal | hah | 15:05 |
| rakhmerov | but I believe we're doing better than this )) | 15:05 |
| rakhmerov | definition | 15:05 |
| apetrich | :) | 15:05 |
| rakhmerov | ok, let's start | 15:05 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Current status | 15:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Current status (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 15:06 | |
| rakhmerov | my status: spent significant time on reviewing patches, including namespaces spec (please do too), also almost finished Mistral java client in OpenStack4j (will be polishing and testing it) and keep working on HA tasks | 15:07 |
| rakhmerov | specifically, learning OpenStack CI and started working on a new gate | 15:07 |
| d0ugal | With help from apetrich I was able to remove Mistral from the global requirements, which solved a number of problems | 15:08 |
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| rakhmerov | excellent! | 15:08 |
| rbrady | my status: slowing working on the port of keystone utils to mistral-lib. I'm not a keystone expert and recent patches/changes have left me reading more code than writing it in the last week | 15:08 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 15:08 |
| toure | status: workflow error analysis has taken a turn as sub-workflow tracking proves to be difficult, d0ugal pointed out this flaw in my proposal, He and I have been working on a solution. The problem stems from the parent execution not having the ability to track it's children tasks. | 15:09 |
| rakhmerov | yeah, it needs thinking | 15:09 |
| apetrich | me: as d0ugal said mistral-lib is going strong. I'm fixing some documentation to reflect that | 15:09 |
| rakhmerov | maybe it's even worth changing the DB model for that | 15:09 |
| rakhmerov | toure: I also left some questions in the patch, take a look | 15:09 |
| toure | rakhmerov that would help | 15:10 |
| toure | k, will take a look | 15:10 |
| apetrich | also thanks rakhmerov to make the change to mistral-lib serializer so we can remove that from mistral soon | 15:10 |
| rakhmerov | apetrich: documentation where? TripleO? | 15:10 |
| apetrich | mistral/docs | 15:10 |
| d0ugal | https://docs.openstack.org/developer/mistral/developer/creating_custom_action.html | 15:10 |
| apetrich | rakhmerov, ^ | 15:10 |
| rakhmerov | ooh, ok | 15:10 |
| rakhmerov | woops | 15:11 |
| rakhmerov | 404 | 15:11 |
| rakhmerov | I guess it's a temporary problem | 15:11 |
| rakhmerov | ok, good anyway ) | 15:11 |
| d0ugal | It works for me :) | 15:11 |
| rakhmerov | really? | 15:11 |
| rakhmerov | haha | 15:11 |
| apetrich | https://github.com/openstack/mistral/blob/master/doc/source/developer/creating_custom_action.rst | 15:11 |
| rakhmerov | yes, ok | 15:12 |
| rakhmerov | we need to strive to finish all main changes in mistral lib within 2 weeks | 15:13 |
| rakhmerov | it's very important | 15:13 |
| rakhmerov | I'll try to participate too as much as possible | 15:13 |
| d0ugal | What other changes do we need in mistral-lib? | 15:13 |
| d0ugal | I see the mistral-extra work (moving actions etc.) as a different task - I am not sure this will happen in time for P | 15:14 |
| apetrich | Good question | 15:14 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: I think we need to port OpenStack actions, it will prove that everything is ok with mistral-lib | 15:14 |
| apetrich | I see the serialization that we can move from mistral into mistral-lib | 15:14 |
| rakhmerov | I think it's not 100% a different task | 15:14 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: Mistral itself uses mistral-lib, that should be proof enough :) | 15:14 |
| rakhmerov | ok, I may be wrong | 15:14 |
| apetrich | context will stay in mistral but we could use a contract from mistral-lib | 15:14 |
| d0ugal | and tripleo does too, which is some external proof. | 15:14 |
| apetrich | AFAIK | 15:15 |
| rakhmerov | I haven't really looked into it for a while and I just want to make sure that it's in a good shape | 15:15 |
| rakhmerov | and also documented well | 15:15 |
| d0ugal | but yes, it would have been nice if mistral-extra used it as that would cover more use cases. | 15:15 |
| d0ugal | +1 | 15:15 |
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| rakhmerov | I'm talking about mistral-extra work because it may potentially point to some issues | 15:16 |
| rakhmerov | hopefully not | 15:16 |
| d0ugal | Right | 15:16 |
| rakhmerov | btw, as with config options used by actions | 15:16 |
| rbrady | if we're going to port openstack actions to mistral-extra, does that mean we'll need to port the action generator too | 15:16 |
| rbrady | ? | 15:16 |
| d0ugal | rbrady: yes, I think so. | 15:17 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 15:17 |
| rakhmerov | it's part of the framework related to actions | 15:17 |
| rakhmerov | it shouldn't be in mistral | 15:17 |
| d0ugal | I had thought about this a bit actually | 15:17 |
| d0ugal | We have entry_points for invididual actions | 15:17 |
| d0ugal | but maybe we should have a setup.py entry_point for action generators | 15:18 |
| rbrady | there is more to investigate wrt to the action generator imports | 15:18 |
| d0ugal | then a generator for aws (for example) could be written and registered | 15:18 |
| rbrady | I like d0ugal's idea | 15:18 |
| rakhmerov | yeah | 15:18 |
| rakhmerov | sure | 15:18 |
| d0ugal | but I have not looked into this idea at all :) | 15:18 |
| d0ugal | There is lots that needs to happen first. | 15:18 |
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| rakhmerov | keep in mind that what we've done so far in actions is pretty primitive and not very useable | 15:19 |
| d0ugal | What do you mean? | 15:19 |
| rakhmerov | there should be better ways of configuring them | 15:19 |
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| d0ugal | aha | 15:19 |
| rakhmerov | I mean your idea is good! ) | 15:19 |
| d0ugal | Yes, I think mistral-extra will also need a configuration file | 15:19 |
| rakhmerov | don't take what we have now as a good example | 15:20 |
| d0ugal | Right | 15:20 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: sure, yes, but that will be its own config | 15:20 |
| rbrady | rakhmerov: configure them? as in configure the client constructors? | 15:20 |
| rakhmerov | of a separate project | 15:20 |
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| rakhmerov | in my view | 15:20 |
| rakhmerov | rbrady: no, I mean user experience in general. We have to update that huge mapping if something is out of date, we have to register individual entries in setup.cfg | 15:21 |
| rakhmerov | etc. | 15:21 |
| rakhmerov | I mean when you're working on this transition just try to think how to also improve it | 15:22 |
| rakhmerov | I know there's not much time but anyway | 15:22 |
| d0ugal | Right | 15:22 |
| rakhmerov | this work will continue anyway | 15:22 |
| d0ugal | because it would also be better if you didn't need to restart Mistral | 15:22 |
| d0ugal | people always find that strange :) | 15:23 |
| rakhmerov | yes, ideally | 15:23 |
| rbrady | autodiscovery for actions sounds cool | 15:23 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 15:23 |
| d0ugal | I think we could solve that quite easily by executing actions in their own process - which would also open the door for non-python actions. | 15:23 |
| rakhmerov | true | 15:24 |
| rakhmerov | some time ago we also thought about the idea of an action provider | 15:24 |
| rakhmerov | some abstraction that knows how to deliver actions to the system | 15:24 |
| rakhmerov | its contract is basically: getActions() | 15:24 |
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| rakhmerov | and it would return all actions | 15:25 |
| apetrich | mmm | 15:25 |
| rakhmerov | once it's integrated we could have implementations of action providers that could fetch actions from whatever comes to our mind | 15:25 |
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| rakhmerov | they could generate them dynamically as wrappers around external processes, generate based on DB records, etc. | 15:26 |
| rakhmerov | it's just a general idea but it may be worth thinking of (there's even a BP for that) | 15:26 |
| d0ugal | yeah, that might be a nice feature for Q | 15:27 |
| rakhmerov | right | 15:27 |
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| rbrady | do I dare ask about actions as containers? | 15:27 |
| apetrich | rakhmerov, do you think have a rabbitmq topic that actions register themselves or a two way communication for getActions to work? | 15:27 |
| rakhmerov | by default, let's say we could have a provider that provides all built-in standard actions | 15:27 |
| rakhmerov | apetrich: yeah, sounds nice | 15:27 |
| apetrich | s/actions/actionproviders/ actually | 15:27 |
| rakhmerov | got it, yes | 15:27 |
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| apetrich | nice | 15:28 |
| rakhmerov | anyway, all these ideas can possibly co-exist | 15:28 |
| d0ugal | yeah | 15:28 |
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| rakhmerov | how to configure them, how to develop the them more efficiently, how to deliver them to the system | 15:28 |
| rakhmerov | lots of ideas ) | 15:28 |
| rakhmerov | let me formally open an open discussion | 15:29 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Open Discussion | 15:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 15:29 | |
| rakhmerov | one thing to share | 15:29 |
| rakhmerov | you have probably seen the news about migrating docs | 15:30 |
| rakhmerov | kind of a sad news | 15:30 |
| rakhmerov | but | 15:30 |
| rakhmerov | for us it's kind of a good news because we don't need to move docs ) | 15:30 |
| rakhmerov | they are already in our repo | 15:30 |
| rakhmerov | we'll just need to adjust docs according to the spec, basically change folder structure | 15:31 |
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| rakhmerov | and it's good that we got volunteers (my colleagues) to do this work | 15:31 |
| rakhmerov | and they also volunteered to improve docs in general, including installation/configuration guides | 15:31 |
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| rakhmerov | RPMs, etc. | 15:31 |
| rakhmerov | I think that's pretty much all from me | 15:32 |
| d0ugal | Great, looking forward to that docs work. | 15:33 |
| rakhmerov | any other topics? | 15:33 |
| rakhmerov | yeah | 15:33 |
| d0ugal | Nothing from me. | 15:33 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 15:33 |
| d0ugal | oh, actually | 15:33 |
| toure | nothing from me either... | 15:33 |
| d0ugal | [openstack-dev] [tc][all] Move away from meeting channels | 15:34 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 15:34 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: yeah? | 15:34 |
| d0ugal | I seen this discussion on openstack-dev, it seems there might be a move away from these channels | 15:34 |
| d0ugal | and it also sounds like some projects are moving away from meetings in general | 15:34 |
| d0ugal | we don't need to change anything, but it is worth reading and we can then discuss what we want to change if anything. | 15:35 |
| rakhmerov | making them ad-hoc? | 15:35 |
| rakhmerov | yes, I read it briefly | 15:35 |
| d0ugal | I think so | 15:35 |
| rakhmerov | not all the content though | 15:35 |
| rakhmerov | ok, no problem | 15:35 |
| rakhmerov | I'm actually ok with the meetings we have | 15:35 |
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| rakhmerov | I still think that they are useful | 15:36 |
| rakhmerov | but we can make them more flexible, for example | 15:36 |
| rakhmerov | not the same day, not the same time | 15:36 |
| d0ugal | yup | 15:36 |
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| rakhmerov | or on demand | 15:36 |
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| rakhmerov | if someone wants to discuss something important we can have them | 15:37 |
| rakhmerov | so ok, let's think about it | 15:37 |
| rakhmerov | I don't have any immediate proposals | 15:37 |
| rakhmerov | regarding that | 15:37 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 15:37 |
| rakhmerov | just one more thing from me: as far as my personal contribution, I planned to participate actively in all things like docs and actions but I'll have to be focused on HA because of our internal very strict deadlines | 15:38 |
| rakhmerov | essentially I have to make it work in HA in the next 2 months :) | 15:38 |
| rakhmerov | no choice | 15:38 |
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| rakhmerov | but I'll be reviewing and helping anyway | 15:39 |
| rakhmerov | ok, so let's end the meeting earlier then? | 15:39 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal, rbrady, toure, apetrich? | 15:40 |
| toure | ack | 15:40 |
| apetrich | aye | 15:40 |
| rbrady | ack | 15:40 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 15:40 |
| d0ugal | sounds good | 15:40 |
| rakhmerov | as usually, thanks for joining ) | 15:40 |
| rakhmerov | and happy Independence Day, us folks! :) | 15:40 |
| toure | Thansk | 15:40 |
| toure | thanks | 15:40 |
| rakhmerov | .. US folks .. | 15:40 |
| toure | :) | 15:40 |
| rakhmerov | ok, bye | 15:40 |
| rakhmerov | #endmeeting | 15:41 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:41 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jul 3 15:41:11 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:41 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2017/mistral.2017-07-03-15.01.html | 15:41 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2017/mistral.2017-07-03-15.01.txt | 15:41 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2017/mistral.2017-07-03-15.01.log.html | 15:41 |
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| TheJulia | #startmeeting ironic | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jul 3 17:00:15 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is TheJulia. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| TheJulia | o/ | 17:00 |
| mrtenio | o/ | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' | 17:00 |
| fellypefca | o/ | 17:00 |
| milan | o/ | 17:00 |
| mgoddard_ | \o | 17:00 |
| rama_y | o/ | 17:00 |
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| etingof | o/ | 17:01 |
| TheJulia | This being a holiday week, I'm expecting attendance to be light today. | 17:01 |
| crushil_ | \o | 17:01 |
| TheJulia | Our Agenda can be found on the wiki | 17:01 |
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| nicodemos | o/ | 17:02 |
| vdrok | o/ | 17:02 |
| rpioso | o/ | 17:02 |
| TheJulia | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic | 17:02 |
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| TheJulia | #topic Announcements / Reminder | 17:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements / Reminder (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:02 | |
| stendulker | o/ | 17:02 |
| xavierr | o/ | 17:03 |
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| sauloaislan | Morning!!! | 17:03 |
| sambetts | o/ | 17:03 |
| TheJulia | First off, Our documentation on docs.o.o is broken. sambetts has started putting together changes to hopefully address this for our main repo, but all of our doc tress will likely require some attention over the next few days. I'll pickup on sambett's work after he decides to call it a night. | 17:04 |
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| sambetts | thanks TheJulia :) | 17:04 |
| TheJulia | This is a result of the project wide documentation migration project. | 17:04 |
| ricardoas | o/ | 17:04 |
| TheJulia | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/doc-migration-tracking | 17:04 |
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| TheJulia | sambetts: I'll review them against the spec/docs/instructions as well, hopefully we can get the majority of this cleaned up quickly | 17:05 |
| TheJulia | Secondly, milan wanted to let us know that we have a new person joining us. | 17:05 |
| milan | TheJulia, thanks! :) | 17:05 |
| TheJulia | Greetings etingof! Welcome to this crazy batch of people :) | 17:06 |
| sambetts | hey etingof | 17:06 |
| milan | I'm very happy to introduce Ilya Etingof, etingof, to the Ironic folks! | 17:06 |
| etingof | thank you! I'm really excited joining you! ;-) | 17:06 |
| vdrok | welcome :) | 17:06 |
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| xavierr | hey etingof, welcome | 17:07 |
| TheJulia | etingof: Please don't hesitate to ask questions. We've all learned this is a very complex project, so don't feel bad if you have questions, or need help at any time. | 17:07 |
| milan | TheJulia, ++ | 17:08 |
| etingof | sure, thank you! | 17:08 |
| TheJulia | With that having been said, does anyone else have any announcements/reminders for us? | 17:08 |
| * TheJulia guesses no | 17:09 | |
| TheJulia | Moving on! | 17:09 |
| TheJulia | #topic Subteam status report | 17:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Subteam status report (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:10 | |
| TheJulia | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard | 17:10 |
| TheJulia | Starting at line 92... | 17:10 |
| * TheJulia sense people typing furiously :) | 17:13 | |
| xavierr | so... | 17:15 |
| TheJulia | It looks like we didn't get as much as we hoped done last week, and it also looks like some of the sections were not updated since people with context are jut not present | 17:15 |
| * TheJulia is running a little slow because of connectivity | 17:16 | |
| TheJulia | I don't have any questions, and I guess we can just move forward to priorities for the week if nobody has questions/comments from the ether pad? | 17:17 |
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| TheJulia | milan: If that is you typing, yes, we've all been impacted by the docs changes :( | 17:19 |
| milan | TheJulia, ack, yeah wanted to record it | 17:20 |
| * milan files a bug | 17:20 | |
| milan | * for inspector | 17:20 |
| milan | or do we have some template for that? | 17:20 |
| NobodyCam | almost forgot | 17:20 |
| NobodyCam | o/ | 17:21 |
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| TheJulia | milan: the changes, see the ether pad for the doc migration. It has a link to a spec with instructions. :) | 17:21 |
| TheJulia | \o NobodyCam | 17:21 |
| milan | TheJulia, ack, thanks :) | 17:21 |
| TheJulia | milan: no problem. :) | 17:21 |
| TheJulia | I guess we should move on | 17:22 |
| TheJulia | #topic Deciding on priorities for the coming week | 17:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Deciding on priorities for the coming week (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:22 | |
| sambetts | I think the first one has to be docs right? | 17:22 |
| TheJulia | Yup! | 17:22 |
| TheJulia | I think that is one we're going to have to update as we go | 17:23 |
| TheJulia | \o/ kicked off etherpad | 17:24 |
| TheJulia | and it is still loading | 17:24 |
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| TheJulia | Second, I think would be BFV. We have two patches before we can begin unblocking the client API patches. Both of the are in the list on the etherpad | 17:24 |
| TheJulia | It looks like the rest is fairly reasonable since it will be a relatively quiet week. | 17:25 |
| TheJulia | Does anyone have anything specific they wish to raise to that list? | 17:26 |
| xavierr | TheJulia: can we test BFV already? :) | 17:26 |
| TheJulia | xavierr: Yes, There is a notes ether pad covering that someplace. I'll have to look | 17:27 |
| mgoddard_ | it would be nice to get the physnet awareness work back on the priority list. | 17:27 |
| sambetts | +1 | 17:27 |
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| mgoddard_ | there are a few patches backing up, some only tangentially related to physnets but seem to have ended up blocking it | 17:28 |
| mgoddard_ | First blocker is https://review.openstack.org/477597 | 17:28 |
| TheJulia | mgoddard_: sambetts|afk Is there anything that is needed in nova for it? | 17:28 |
| xavierr | TheJulia: ty, paste the link if you find it :) | 17:28 |
| mgoddard_ | TheJulia: no nova changes required | 17:29 |
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| TheJulia | mgoddard_: nothing neutron/client library related that needs to land this cycle? | 17:29 |
| mgoddard_ | TheJulia: nope, it's all in ironic-governed projects | 17:30 |
| sambetts_ | mgoddard_: do we need to add physical network to the client?? | 17:30 |
| sambetts_ | The field I mean, to like port create etc | 17:30 |
| TheJulia | and does it need to occur this cycle for the client library release freeze? | 17:30 |
| mgoddard_ | sambetts_: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/461893 adds physnet support to ironic OSC commands | 17:30 |
| mgoddard_ | when's the client release freeze? | 17:30 |
| TheJulia | double checking | 17:31 |
| xavierr | mgoddard_: Jul 24 - Jul 28 | 17:31 |
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| xavierr | https://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html | 17:31 |
| mgoddard_ | no pressure then :) | 17:32 |
| TheJulia | I was just going to paste that :) | 17:32 |
| TheJulia | #link https://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html | 17:32 |
| * xavierr was faster | 17:32 | |
| TheJulia | (or you just have less lossy internet) | 17:32 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 17:32 |
| xavierr | hahaha | 17:33 |
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| mgoddard_ | 3 weeks. sambetts_, thoughts on parking the VIFPortIDMixin refactor in favour of pushing forward physnet support before feature freeze, which is apparently 4 weeks away? | 17:34 |
| TheJulia | We really need to get the stuffs in for nova for BFV this cycle, I'm personally okay if we cut >1 client library releases leading up to that date. Personally I want to get the bfv stuff in a place where we have unblocked nova and can cut a client library release, and without dmitry, I'm hesitant to re-add it to the priorities list. That being said, it sounds like the blocker needs to be resolved first? | 17:35 |
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| TheJulia | The key is client library freeze, we'll just become hesitant to land code to ironic the closer we get to when we need to cut a release, as we always do. | 17:35 |
| vdrok | which patches do we need to unblock nova? only the rest api one? | 17:36 |
| mgoddard_ | it's really a soft blocker, in that an early code refactor makes later patches cleaner | 17:36 |
| vdrok | oh, and client | 17:36 |
| TheJulia | vdrok: two for the rest api to land, two client patches to which allows targets to be added if memory serves. | 17:37 |
| sambetts_ | mgoddard_: can we make the field accessible on the API before we start using it in vif port mixin? That unties us from the client libs | 17:38 |
| mgoddard_ | sambetts_: it's possible, just means we end up with a behaviour change without a corresponding API bump | 17:40 |
| TheJulia | That sounds a little dicey | 17:40 |
| sambetts_ | Or we land messy vif port ID mixin with the promise that we clean it up before any more code gets landed in vif port ID mixin | 17:40 |
| mgoddard_ | I guess we could later bump again if that is an issue | 17:40 |
| sambetts_ | Making vif attach port attach pay attention to physical network doesn't require a bump | 17:41 |
| TheJulia | it shouldn't as long as behavior can stay consistent for the users | 17:42 |
| sambetts_ | In the same we we didn't bump when we enable post deploy attachmeny | 17:42 |
| mgoddard_ | ok, if there's a precedent then I guess it's ok | 17:42 |
| sambetts_ | But this is a grey area for API bumping | 17:42 |
| sambetts_ | Because it's actual driver functionality leaking through to the API | 17:43 |
| TheJulia | Yeah, given the timeframe, I'm okay with minimum viable path to get the client api patch landed and then doing the refactoring. Dmitry may feel otherwise though, so as we say in the states, your milage may vary. | 17:43 |
| vdrok | I'd prefer both field and its use to be landed together, but yeah, it is possible to do separately | 17:44 |
| sambetts_ | Ok then I say land messy patch with all the extra checks and follow it immediately with the vif port mixin refactoring | 17:45 |
| TheJulia | It seems like we need to get a plan together for that, and we should be able to move forward on that if we can also get bfv moving forward this week | 17:45 |
| mgoddard_ | sambetts_: +1 | 17:46 |
| * mordred waves | 17:46 | |
| TheJulia | Sounds like we are in an okay shape for this week, and we can move forward to open discussion, that is if there are no objections? | 17:47 |
| sambetts_ | Sounds good | 17:47 |
| NobodyCam | morning mordred :) | 17:47 |
| TheJulia | #topic Open Discussion | 17:47 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:47 | |
| TheJulia | Anyone have anything else to discuss today? | 17:48 |
| rama_y | Hi, regarding this patch: | 17:48 |
| rama_y | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/358142/ | 17:48 |
| Nisha_Agarwal | TheJulia, hi. | 17:48 |
| rama_y | This has been reviewed by osprofiler cores several times. Needs Ironic cores' review. | 17:48 |
| TheJulia | rama_y: We have very few cores on hand today, but we can make a note of it? | 17:49 |
| Nisha_Agarwal | regarding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/408441/ | 17:49 |
| rama_y | TheJulia, thanks very much. | 17:50 |
| TheJulia | #note rama_y is seeking core reviewers to review the osprofiler addition https://review.openstack.org/#/c/358142/ | 17:50 |
| * mordred can't remember who was working on the "consume endpoints from catalog" patches -but I wanted to let folks know that the keystoneauth patches to make that all work really well are mostly landed | 17:51 | |
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| mordred | we've landed list-of-interfaces, support for major version ranges and reporting discovered microversion support - hopefully will land service-type alias support this week or next week | 17:52 |
| vdrok | pas-ha was, I'll let him know, thx! | 17:52 |
| Nisha_Agarwal | This patch as i understand is pending in lack of CI. We at HPE is lacking hardware to get this feature onto CI. I sit OK if we have it in tempest as of now and support it in CI when we get the hardware. | 17:53 |
| Nisha_Agarwal | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/408441/ | 17:53 |
| Nisha_Agarwal | s/I sit/Is it | 17:53 |
| vdrok | hrm , isn't it just a doc patch? | 17:54 |
| * Nisha_Agarwal just asking opinion | 17:54 | |
| Nisha_Agarwal | yes | 17:54 |
| vdrok | oh, I see the comment from JayF | 17:54 |
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| TheJulia | \o/ irccloud | 17:55 |
| TheJulia | Anyway! | 17:55 |
| milan | lol | 17:56 |
| TheJulia | Nisha_Agarwal: I think reviews on doc changes will need to wait unless it is on a critical path for client library release | 17:56 |
| Nisha_Agarwal | client library includes third party libraries? | 17:56 |
| TheJulia | mordred: I'll pass that along to pas-ha | 17:57 |
| * Nisha_Agarwal is always confused with these terminologies | 17:57 | |
| TheJulia | Ironic's core reviewer bandwidth needs to focus on making sure python-ironicclient can be released in time for it to be consumed by other projects | 17:57 |
| Nisha_Agarwal | ok | 17:58 |
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| TheJulia | With that being said, we have two minutes left | 17:58 |
| TheJulia | Anything else today | 17:58 |
| Nisha_Agarwal | i understand that part and agree also | 17:58 |
| Nisha_Agarwal | nothing else from my side | 17:58 |
| Nisha_Agarwal | :) | 17:58 |
| rama_y | TheJulia, regarding the osprofiler patch, rloo has provided significant feedback on the patch and the patch has been revised; just wanted to add to my earlier request. | 17:58 |
| Nisha_Agarwal | Thanks for clarifying | 17:58 |
| vdrok | regarding the client, would be also good to have some reviews on https://review.openstack.org/359061 | 17:58 |
| TheJulia | Yeah, we do need to review that | 18:00 |
| TheJulia | thank you vdrok | 18:00 |
| * TheJulia makes a note | 18:00 | |
| vdrok | thanks all! | 18:00 |
| TheJulia | #note vdrok points out that we need reviews on the python-ironicclient patch https://review.openstack.org/359061 | 18:00 |
| TheJulia | Thanks everyone! See you next week, and in #openstack-ironic in the mean time | 18:00 |
| TheJulia | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jul 3 18:00:47 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2017/ironic.2017-07-03-17.00.html | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2017/ironic.2017-07-03-17.00.txt | 18:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2017/ironic.2017-07-03-17.00.log.html | 18:00 |
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