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| gcb | #startmeeting oslo | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jun 19 14:00:22 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gcb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' | 14:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for amotoki, amrith, bknudson, bnemec, crushil, dansmith, dhellmann | 14:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for dims, dougwig, e0ne, electrocucaracha, flaper87, garyk, gcb | 14:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for GheRivero, haypo, jd__, jecarey, johnsom, jungleboyj, kgiusti | 14:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for kragniz, lhx_, lifeless, lxsli, Nakato, ozamiatin, rbradfor | 14:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for redrobot, rpodolyaka, sergmelikyan, sileht, spamaps, sreshetnyak, sreshetnyak | 14:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for stevemar, therve, thinrichs, toabctl, viktors, zhiyan, zzzeek | 14:00 |
| gcb | who's around today? | 14:01 |
| ansmith | o/ | 14:01 |
| gcb | hi ansmith | 14:02 |
| ansmith | hey gcb | 14:02 |
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| gcb | let's wait a moment :-) | 14:02 |
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| gcb | #topic Red flags for/from liaisons | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Red flags for/from liaisons (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 14:04 | |
| gcb | http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/?groupKey=build_name&resolutionKey=hour&searchProject=-with-oslo | 14:04 |
| gcb | cinder's unit test failed in http://logs.openstack.org/periodic/periodic-cinder-py35-with-oslo-master/8348db4/testr_results.html.gz | 14:06 |
| gcb | I'll check if that's related with oslo later | 14:06 |
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| gcb | #topic Releases | 14:07 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "Releases (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 14:07 | |
| gcb | release for branch stable/ocata in https://review.openstack.org/474883 | 14:07 |
| dims | gcb : partially here. packing for a trip | 14:07 |
| gcb | dims: ack busy man | 14:07 |
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| gcb | release for branch is being prepared, and waiting some merging commits like https://review.openstack.org/474212, will post the link when it's ready | 14:09 |
| gcb | okay, let's move on | 14:09 |
| gcb | #topic Stuck Reviews | 14:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stuck Reviews (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 14:09 | |
| gcb | Does anyone (or maybe only ansmith) have patches to review | 14:10 |
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| gcb | there is a new oslo-spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/474304/ | 14:13 |
| gcb | Protecting Plaintext Secrets | 14:13 |
| gcb | #topic Open discussion | 14:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 14:14 | |
| gcb | okay the last part of the meeting | 14:14 |
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| ansmith | gcb: what are your thoughts for PTG? Will you be attending? | 14:15 |
| gcb | hi ansmith: I just want to raise this topic, I think I will attend the PTG | 14:16 |
| gcb | I passed the visa application after the Boston Summit, so I can attend | 14:18 |
| gcb | ansmith, will you be there ? | 14:18 |
| ansmith | good to hear re. your visa | 14:18 |
| ansmith | would like to attend but need to request | 14:19 |
| gcb | We will have middle room for oslo from Monday to Wednesday | 14:19 |
| bnemec | I expect to be there, but we haven't actually done that travel planning yet. | 14:20 |
| gcb | bnemec, ansmith: looking forward to meeting you in the Denver :-) | 14:20 |
| bnemec | Likewise :-) | 14:21 |
| gcb | I will prepared a etherpad link to collect topics which we can discuss at the PTG | 14:21 |
| gcb | https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xmOdT6uZ5XqViActr5sBOaz_mEgjKSCY7NEWcAEcT-A/pubhtml?gid=397241312&single=true | 14:25 |
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| gcb | It seems it's a short meeting today , thanks ansmith, bnemec and dims | 14:27 |
| ansmith | thanks gcb | 14:27 |
| gcb | :-) | 14:27 |
| gcb | #endmeeting | 14:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:27 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jun 19 14:27:36 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:27 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2017/oslo.2017-06-19-14.00.html | 14:27 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2017/oslo.2017-06-19-14.00.txt | 14:27 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2017/oslo.2017-06-19-14.00.log.html | 14:27 |
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| rakhmerov | #startmeeting Mistral | 15:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jun 19 15:02:09 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rakhmerov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 15:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'mistral' | 15:02 |
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| mgershenzon | Hi | 15:02 |
| d0ugal | Hey | 15:03 |
| rakhmerov | hi | 15:03 |
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| rakhmerov | let's wait a minute | 15:03 |
| toure | hello | 15:04 |
| rakhmerov | hey | 15:04 |
| apetrich | hiya | 15:04 |
| rakhmerov | hi apetrich | 15:05 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Review Action items | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review Action items (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 15:05 | |
| rakhmerov | 1. rakhmerov: review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/470996/ | 15:05 |
| rakhmerov | done | 15:05 |
| bobh | o/ | 15:05 |
| rakhmerov | 2. rakhmerov, d0ugal: figure out for how long old actions should be deprecated before complete removal | 15:05 |
| rakhmerov | done, in R cycle | 15:05 |
| rakhmerov | bobh: hi, welcome ) | 15:05 |
| d0ugal | I can't wait for R :-D | 15:05 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Current status, plans | 15:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Current status, plans (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 15:06 | |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: kidding me? :)) | 15:06 |
| d0ugal | I just like to delete stuff :) | 15:06 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: but well, yeah, it will be a good thing to get into that crazy threading stuff again ) | 15:06 |
| rakhmerov | yes, agree | 15:06 |
| rakhmerov | ok, so let's share our statuses and plans | 15:06 |
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| rakhmerov | after that we can discuss whatever we want, I don't have any specific agenda, just a couple of questions | 15:07 |
| d0ugal | I don't have much to share, I have been busy with TripleO tasks. I did post this tiny review, which I need tho' https://review.openstack.org/475404 | 15:07 |
| mgershenzon | Working on adding a namespace for mistral workflos | 15:07 |
| rakhmerov | my status: reviewing a lot, fixed one bug with trimming "state_info" (also backported it), working on HA (learhing OpenStack CI a little bit) | 15:07 |
| mgershenzon | Workflows | 15:07 |
| mgershenzon | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/470996/ | 15:08 |
| mgershenzon | Just uploaded a new PS | 15:08 |
| rakhmerov | mgershenzon: cool, thanks | 15:09 |
| apetrich | I'm changing mistral to use mistral-lib here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/474895/ but right now I'm dead end that is where is a good place to do serializer registration | 15:09 |
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| rakhmerov | d0ugal: please also participate in Michal's spec if you have a chance | 15:09 |
| toure | status: I am at a point where I could use a pair of eye on my proposed change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/455447/ working out a small kink, | 15:09 |
| apetrich | btw that patch is a bit old but I'm holding on changes to uplodad some changes | 15:09 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: I will, I reviewed the previous version but not the new one yet | 15:09 |
| rakhmerov | apetrich: yeah, you mentioned it in our channel. I have a couple of ideas but let me think more, I'll leave a comment with my thoughts | 15:10 |
| apetrich | rakhmerov, cheers! | 15:10 |
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| apetrich | with that done. I have some changes to mistral-lib and then move more stuff there | 15:10 |
| rakhmerov | apetrich: great | 15:11 |
| rakhmerov | toure: what do you mean? You need help? ) | 15:11 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: I think toure just wants reviews. | 15:11 |
| toure | rakhmerov reviews | 15:11 |
| rakhmerov | ooh, ok | 15:11 |
| mgershenzon | d0ugal, I approved the review you requested | 15:11 |
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| toure | :) my sqlalchemy battles are over I think | 15:11 |
| rakhmerov | the reason I haven't reviewed its latest version yet is because it's still marked as WIP | 15:12 |
| d0ugal | mgershenzon: thanks! | 15:12 |
| toure | rakhmerov I removed it | 15:12 |
| toure | it still has -1 workflow | 15:12 |
| rakhmerov | toure: that's very good ) I'll review it | 15:12 |
| toure | thanks | 15:12 |
| rakhmerov | toure: yeah, just remove -1 Workflow once you think it's ready | 15:12 |
| toure | k | 15:13 |
| rakhmerov | that is usually a signal that it's ready for review | 15:13 |
| toure | cool | 15:13 |
| rakhmerov | yep, awesome | 15:13 |
| rakhmerov | looking forward to reviewing it | 15:13 |
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| toure | yeah I was trying to get it ready for pike-2 but sqlalchemy was messing with me | 15:13 |
| toure | :) | 15:14 |
| rakhmerov | #action rakhmerov: talk to apetrich and decide where to put initialization of serialization stuff | 15:14 |
| apetrich | :) | 15:14 |
| rakhmerov | toure: no problem | 15:14 |
| rakhmerov | yep, so | 15:14 |
| rakhmerov | is there any topics you'd like to discuss? | 15:14 |
| d0ugal | What do you think about a set of Mistral actions for creating and removing temp files/directories? | 15:15 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: I'd like to ask you to check the status of that requirement problem | 15:15 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: rbrady was helping me, because I was busy - but he isn't around today. | 15:15 |
| d0ugal | so I'm not sure if anything changed | 15:15 |
| rakhmerov | yeah, I see, that's why I'm asking :) | 15:16 |
| d0ugal | Otherwise I should have time to get back to it tomorrow - I have some ideas for a hacky fix :) | 15:16 |
| rakhmerov | because we haven't heard about it for a few days | 15:16 |
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| rakhmerov | yeah | 15:16 |
| d0ugal | I'll find out and try and move it along faster. | 15:16 |
| rakhmerov | I remember you asked me something (there was some problem with keystone again, right?) but don't remember exactly what it was | 15:16 |
| rakhmerov | some decomposition stuff again | 15:17 |
| rakhmerov | too much stuff going on.. | 15:17 |
| rakhmerov | but we can discuss, if needed | 15:17 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 15:17 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: on the new actions, can you elaborate? | 15:17 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Open Discussion | 15:18 |
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| rakhmerov | temp files/directories where? | 15:18 |
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| rakhmerov | on the executors' hosts? | 15:18 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: The problem was with the mistral config, the bit of code we import accesses the Mistral config - so moving it out gets tricky. | 15:18 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: tempfiles - yeah, it would be on the executors hosts - but that would be a problem in a HA setup | 15:19 |
| rakhmerov | aah, yeah, right | 15:19 |
| d0ugal | so I am thinking it isn't a good idea now :) | 15:19 |
| rakhmerov | what's your use case? | 15:19 |
| d0ugal | it is a request I got from a tripleo dev, he needs to create a temp directory to pass to ansible | 15:19 |
| rakhmerov | HA setup you mean when we have many executors on different hosts? | 15:19 |
| d0ugal | yeah | 15:20 |
| rakhmerov | yes, right | 15:20 |
| d0ugal | meaning that the temp file might not exist on the host you need it on | 15:20 |
| rakhmerov | however, there's one thing that not many probably use called "Task affinity" | 15:20 |
| rakhmerov | or "task-executor affinity" | 15:21 |
| rakhmerov | it's when you can mark a task with "target" attribute and its actions will always be routed to corresponding a executor | 15:21 |
| d0ugal | right | 15:21 |
| d0ugal | still, I think the tempfiles stuff could be a bit strange. | 15:22 |
| rakhmerov | so potentially it might help if used with precaution | 15:22 |
| d0ugal | yup | 15:22 |
| rakhmerov | true | 15:22 |
| d0ugal | it sounds a bit messy for me | 15:22 |
| rakhmerov | we've never considered Mistral as a file system aware thing | 15:22 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 15:22 |
| rakhmerov | btw, I now remember that somebody already proposed a similar thing | 15:23 |
| rakhmerov | I guess kong | 15:23 |
| rakhmerov | there still should be a WIP in gerrit | 15:23 |
| d0ugal | ah | 15:23 |
| d0ugal | I'll take a look | 15:23 |
| rakhmerov | may be we need to get back to reviewing it | 15:23 |
| rakhmerov | yeah | 15:23 |
| rakhmerov | ooh, it was something like "Run a script" action | 15:23 |
| mgershenzon | Maybe openstack needs an object storage service. Do we have one? | 15:24 |
| rakhmerov | that runs different types of scripts or binaries | 15:24 |
| rakhmerov | depending on how it's configured | 15:24 |
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| rakhmerov | mgershenzon: well, we have Swift (S3-like) or Glance-Glare | 15:24 |
| rakhmerov | Glare is a cool stuff which we still need to integrate with | 15:25 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: yeah, but that patch got stuck in a long discussion. Lots of concerns were about security, as far as I remember | 15:25 |
| d0ugal | yeah :) | 15:25 |
| rakhmerov | kong was proposing it more for private cloud use cases | 15:26 |
| d0ugal | mgershenzon: we might update it to work with Swift - the problem is the code currently expects a temp directory | 15:26 |
| rakhmerov | where there's more control over infrastructure | 15:26 |
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| d0ugal | and for a moment it made sense that we had actions for tempfiles | 15:26 |
| d0ugal | then I remembered about multiple executors :) | 15:26 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: take a look at "target", it may really help | 15:26 |
| mgershenzon | I see | 15:27 |
| rakhmerov | that way we'll always know where a certain action will run | 15:27 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: will do. | 15:27 |
| rakhmerov | however, somebody reported recently that this feature is now broken :) Haha | 15:27 |
| rakhmerov | I don't know if it's true (saw no evidence yet) but we'll need to check | 15:27 |
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| mgershenzon | Maybe if we group executors by VM and require tasks to run in a specific group it will work | 15:28 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: one more question, do you think you'll have time soon to move OpenStack actions to mistral-extra? | 15:28 |
| rakhmerov | mgershenzon: yes | 15:29 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: I really want to, that task has the same problem that tripleo has. mistral-lib needs access to the mistral config. | 15:29 |
| d0ugal | so once I have a solution for that, I can move both items forward. | 15:29 |
| d0ugal | Suggestions are welcome :) | 15:29 |
| rakhmerov | you mean the config problem? | 15:30 |
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| d0ugal | Yes | 15:31 |
| rakhmerov | my solution: it requires a serious refactoring first, at least we need to decompose things properly first | 15:31 |
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| rakhmerov | it's now too entangled | 15:31 |
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| rakhmerov | #action rakhmerov: look at the config problem (some actions need Mistral config and can't be easily extracted) | 15:32 |
| rakhmerov | ok, I'll have to look at it too | 15:32 |
| rakhmerov | (gosh, so many things..) | 15:32 |
| rakhmerov | :) | 15:32 |
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| rakhmerov | ok | 15:33 |
| rakhmerov | is there anything else? | 15:33 |
| rakhmerov | I'd also like to have a bug triaging session, maybe next meeting? | 15:34 |
| rakhmerov | I believe we can close some of the bugs | 15:34 |
| d0ugal | I think that is all from me | 15:35 |
| d0ugal | A bug triage would be good. | 15:35 |
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| rakhmerov | ok | 15:35 |
| rakhmerov | so let's end the meeting then? | 15:35 |
| rakhmerov | thanks for coming | 15:35 |
| rakhmerov | have a good week ) | 15:36 |
| mgershenzon | Fine by me | 15:36 |
| rakhmerov | bye | 15:36 |
| mgershenzon | Bye | 15:36 |
| toure | have a good one | 15:36 |
| rakhmerov | #endmeeting | 15:36 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jun 19 15:36:17 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:36 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2017/mistral.2017-06-19-15.02.html | 15:36 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2017/mistral.2017-06-19-15.02.txt | 15:36 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2017/mistral.2017-06-19-15.02.log.html | 15:36 |
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| dtantsur | #startmeeting ironic | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jun 19 17:00:28 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dtantsur. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' | 17:00 |
| TheJulia | o/ | 17:00 |
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| mjturek | o/ | 17:00 |
| stendulker | o/ | 17:00 |
| rpioso | o/ | 17:00 |
| dtantsur | hi everyone! | 17:00 |
| anupn | o/ | 17:00 |
| rloo | o/ | 17:00 |
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| crushil | \o | 17:00 |
| rama_y | o/ | 17:00 |
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| jlvillal | o/ | 17:01 |
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| dtantsur | our agenda is as usual at: | 17:01 |
| dtantsur | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic | 17:01 |
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| milan | o/ | 17:01 |
| sambetts | o/ | 17:02 |
| NobodyCam | o/ | 17:02 |
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| baha | o/ | 17:02 |
| dtantsur | #topic Announcements / Reminder | 17:02 |
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| dtantsur | #info PTG information and registration available | 17:02 |
| dtantsur | #link https://www.openstack.org/ptg/ | 17:03 |
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| dtantsur | this is hopefully self-explanatory :) | 17:03 |
| TheJulia | :) | 17:03 |
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| dtantsur | #info ironic-lib 2.8.0 (Pike) released | 17:03 |
| vdrok | o/ | 17:03 |
| dtantsur | anything else? | 17:04 |
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| dtantsur | #topic Review subteam status reports (capped at ten minutes) | 17:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review subteam status reports (capped at ten minutes) (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:05 | |
| dtantsur | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard starting with line 99 | 17:05 |
| ricardoas | o/ | 17:05 |
| fellypefca | o/ | 17:05 |
| * jlvillal wonders if we should make gate-grenade-dsvm-ironic-multinode-multitenant-ubuntu-xenial-nv a voting job | 17:06 | |
| rloo | dtantsur: wrt your tool at http://ironic-divius.rhcloud.com, i use it when you aren't around and i want to update the bugs stats :-) | 17:06 |
| jlvillal | http://ci-watch.tintri.com/project?project=ironic&time=7+days | 17:06 |
| dtantsur | rloo: cool :) | 17:06 |
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| dtantsur | jlvillal: this sounds like something to make voting. what additional coverage does it provide? | 17:07 |
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| jlvillal | dtantsur: It is testing the rolling upgrade scenario | 17:07 |
| dtantsur | jlvillal: which we don't have yet, right? I mean, the upgrade | 17:07 |
| jlvillal | dtantsur: Having an old and new conductor at same time. | 17:07 |
| jlvillal | dtantsur: Right, it is the only job that tests that. | 17:08 |
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| dtantsur | I guess we can make it voting and hope that we do land rolling upgrades :) | 17:08 |
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| rloo | jlvillal: has that test been passing (as expected), etc? | 17:09 |
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| jlvillal | rloo: Based on http://ci-watch.tintri.com/project?project=ironic&time=7+days, I would say yes | 17:09 |
| rloo | jlvillal: is there any way to see beyond 7 days? | 17:10 |
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| jlvillal | rloo: Change the "time=" setting? | 17:10 |
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| rloo | jlvillal: i think it has been behaving properly, just wonder what the status show | 17:10 |
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| jlvillal | But when I tried 14 days it gave server error | 17:11 |
| rloo | jlvillal: no, that only seems to work for max 7 days. 'that' == CI Watch | 17:11 |
| jlvillal | I think that is all the history we have | 17:11 |
| rloo | well, i'm good with having it vote, we can always unvote if there are issues, and better to notice now than at end of cycle? | 17:11 |
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| jlvillal | +1 | 17:12 |
| dtantsur | ++ | 17:12 |
| TheJulia | +1 | 17:12 |
| jlvillal | Okay. I will propose a patch | 17:13 |
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| rloo | thx jlvillal | 17:13 |
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| rloo | dtantsur: should we put a #agree or whatever it is? | 17:14 |
| jlvillal | #action jlvillal to submit patch to make gate-grenade-dsvm-ironic-multinode-multitenant-ubuntu-xenial-nv a voting job | 17:14 |
| * TheJulia wonders if that gets recorded if it is done by someone who is not the chair | 17:14 | |
| * dtantsur wonders too | 17:14 | |
| jlvillal | I think it is "#agreed" https://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot | 17:14 |
| dtantsur | action should also work | 17:14 |
| dtantsur | #action jlvillal to submit patch to make gate-grenade-dsvm-ironic-multinode-multitenant-ubuntu-xenial-nv a voting job | 17:15 |
| * dtantsur duplicated just to be sure | 17:15 | |
| jlvillal | action is for everyone. #agreed is only for the chair | 17:15 |
| TheJulia | \o/ | 17:15 |
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| jlvillal | According to https://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot | 17:15 |
| dtantsur | nice | 17:15 |
| dtantsur | #undo | 17:15 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #action jlvillal to submit patch to make gate-grenade-dsvm-ironic-multinode-multitenant-ubuntu-xenial-nv a voting job | 17:15 |
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| dtantsur | anything else about the statuses? | 17:16 |
| * jlvillal is still proud that #undo now displays the text instead of Removing <id 0x381283> | 17:16 | |
| jlvillal | Tiny tiny little victories :) | 17:16 |
| rloo | there's a question at L240, about whether that RFE needs approval. | 17:16 |
| rloo | didn't we already discuss that, maybe last week, and decided it wasn't needed? | 17:17 |
| rloo | sambetts: ^^ wrt https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1658964 | 17:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1658964 in Ironic "[RFE] Implement neutron routed networks support in Ironic" [Wishlist,Confirmed] - Assigned to Sam Betts (sambetts) | 17:17 |
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| rloo | jlvillal: wrt tempest plugin, L257. anything new to report? | 17:18 |
| jlvillal | rloo: Sadly no :( | 17:18 |
| rloo | jlvillal: but you're back from vaca? :-) | 17:18 |
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| jlvillal | I got distracted with BFV, rolling upgrade, and getting caught with emails and stuff :( | 17:19 |
| sambetts | rloo: yeah, I think we decided that we didn't need the RFE anymore, but I'll keep it arounds in case I ( although I don't think we will) need to make changes to Ironic | 17:19 |
| dtantsur | I need to say that the plugin split is much less a priority than e.g. BFV | 17:19 |
| rloo | sambetts: ok, thx for clarifying | 17:19 |
| rloo | dtantsur: right, that's why it is 'Optional' | 17:19 |
| * dtantsur wants to get rid of "optional priorities" in Queens | 17:20 | |
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| TheJulia | dtantsur: +1 | 17:21 |
| rloo | dtantsur: well, we knew we were taking on too much, although we didn't anticipate what changed this cycle... | 17:21 |
| dtantsur | indeed | 17:21 |
| dtantsur | ready to move on? we've spent 15 mins on priorities already | 17:22 |
| * rloo ready | 17:22 | |
| dtantsur | #topic Deciding on priorities for the coming week | 17:22 |
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| dtantsur | so, we've done some great job again :) | 17:22 |
| jlvillal | Congrats on OSC!!!! :) | 17:22 |
| dtantsur | the only thing left is the rolling upgrades patch (the next BFV patch was added during the week) | 17:23 |
| rloo | jlvillal: ha ha. now we just have to remember to keep feature parity! | 17:23 |
| jlvillal | rloo: And start deprecating the 'ironic' client | 17:23 |
| dtantsur | rloo: I suggest we don't accept changing the "ironic" command first | 17:23 |
| dtantsur | like some people do, first "ironic", then "osc" | 17:23 |
| dtantsur | "osc", then "ironic" fine, until we declare it deprecated | 17:24 |
| dtantsur | wdyt? | 17:24 |
| rloo | jlvillal, dtantsur: I added a note to the subteam report, we aren't deprecating until queens. | 17:24 |
| jlvillal | dtantsur: Sounds reasonable to me | 17:24 |
| dtantsur | right, I remember | 17:24 |
| rloo | dtantsur: that is a good idea | 17:24 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: I like it, as long as we don't apply that requirement to things already in the queue for the client | 17:24 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: and those items already have parity across patchsets | 17:24 |
| rloo | i think we want an #agreed here :-) | 17:25 |
| dtantsur | #agreed Do not allow new features in the "ironic" command that do not have corresponding features in the "openstack baremetal" command first | 17:25 |
| dtantsur | rloo: I was writing it :) | 17:25 |
| rloo | great minds and all... | 17:25 |
| rloo | and yes to TheJulia, grandfathering and all... | 17:25 |
| TheJulia | I think the volume info stuff is all ironic then osc in the order, but they have parity if I'm remembering correctly | 17:26 |
| dtantsur | are we ready to take https://review.openstack.org/#/c/470406 to the list? this is the essence of physical network awareness, I guess | 17:26 |
| dtantsur | and I wonder if we should take 2 patches from BFV, as things have been moving faster recently | 17:26 |
| dtantsur | wdyt on both ^^^ | 17:26 |
| rloo | dtantsur: ++ I added physnet | 17:27 |
| rloo | dtantsur: is the ipxe template a simple patch? | 17:27 |
| rloo | dtantsur: if so and the next patch is ready to be reviewed, sure. | 17:27 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: I would <3 the next three patches for BFV to be on the list, mainly so we have api patch visibility and get towards that soonish since it blocks other changes like in the client library | 17:28 |
| TheJulia | or maybe the third as a stretch | 17:28 |
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| dtantsur | yeah, I suspect | 17:29 |
| rloo | TheJulia: it seems to me (I coudl be wrong) that someone that is reviewing a feature tends to review the next patch in the series anyway. (At least I do) | 17:29 |
| dtantsur | ++ | 17:29 |
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| jlvillal | Maybe 3 could be the topic URL? | 17:29 |
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| dtantsur | maybe I propose the classic driver deprecation spec? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/464046/ | 17:29 |
| TheJulia | rloo: for some of us yes, but not everyone | 17:30 |
| jlvillal | I mean 1.3 | 17:30 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: I say sure | 17:30 |
| dtantsur | jlvillal: I'd like to be specific on what we consider in scope | 17:30 |
| rloo | TheJulia: true. I am hoping 'most' is still true and hint hint folks :-) | 17:30 |
| TheJulia | rloo: heh :) | 17:30 |
| jlvillal | dtantsur: okay | 17:31 |
| dtantsur | ok, wdyt about the list. 4 code patches and one spec. | 17:31 |
| jlvillal | +1 | 17:31 |
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| rloo | +1 | 17:31 |
| TheJulia | +1 | 17:31 |
| rloo | wait, shouldn't we add a stretch goal (just kidding) | 17:31 |
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| dtantsur | hah | 17:32 |
| dtantsur | any more suggestions here? | 17:32 |
| TheJulia | nothing from me | 17:33 |
| dtantsur | #topic PTG in Denver | 17:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG in Denver (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:33 | |
| dtantsur | a few formal questions I have to ask: | 17:33 |
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| dtantsur | Do we want to attend? (just say yes) | 17:33 |
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| rloo | maybe? :-) | 17:33 |
| dtantsur | :) | 17:33 |
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| TheJulia | I say yes | 17:34 |
| rloo | who is planning or would like to attend? | 17:34 |
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| dtantsur | o/ | 17:34 |
| rloo | o/ | 17:34 |
| TheJulia | o/ | 17:34 |
| rloo | ok, we have three so far. it is a go! | 17:34 |
| jlvillal | o/ would like to attend | 17:35 |
| rloo | dtantsur: i think it'll only be useful if we have enough people. maybe we ought to plan for it, and find out closer to the date, who will be most likely attending | 17:35 |
| Nisha_ | o/ would like to attend | 17:35 |
| rpioso | o/ I plan to attend | 17:35 |
| * Nisha_ can attend virtually only | 17:36 | |
| TheJulia | rloo: I think we have to do it that way as people will need to obtain employer travel approval | 17:36 |
| dtantsur | rloo: we have to plan in advance, unfortunately | 17:36 |
| * milan would go if approved | 17:36 | |
| dtantsur | ok, I got some information at least | 17:36 |
| wanyen | Does it allow remote particpation? | 17:36 |
| rloo | exactly. no one does NOT want to have an ironic thing there, which is good :-) | 17:36 |
| milan | lol | 17:37 |
| dtantsur | wanyen: I'm not sure yet. we can try our best, but we cannot guarantee that available tech serves us well (e.g. internet connection) | 17:37 |
| rloo | i thought there was a discussion/talk about a way for people to attend virtually but i don't recall the details or anything | 17:37 |
| ricardoas | o/ i´d like too | 17:37 |
| TheJulia | I remember there was discussion on bringing greater visibility on "what is going on" | 17:37 |
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| TheJulia | Anyway, we should move on to the next question | 17:38 |
| wanyen | dtantsur, tx. remote participation will reallyhelp. | 17:38 |
| dtantsur | next question: do we need Friday? | 17:38 |
| dtantsur | we tend to be only active in the morning, but it's still a productive time | 17:38 |
| dtantsur | so I don't have a particularly strong opinion here | 17:39 |
| TheJulia | I say plan on the morning again. For some technically productive, others socially productive to gain mutual context and build better communication | 17:39 |
| rloo | i think we don't need it | 17:39 |
| vdrok | oh, I do plan to attend | 17:39 |
| vdrok | denver ptg | 17:39 |
| milan | Friday +1: inspector day ;) | 17:40 |
| dtantsur | just to clarify: there is no pressure on us to NOT use Friday | 17:40 |
| TheJulia | If we don't do Friday morning, we should at least set aside half a day or a couple hours to break into groups to allow sub team discussion | 17:40 |
| dtantsur | we just need to decide | 17:40 |
| dtantsur | if unsure, say yes | 17:40 |
| jlvillal | yes! | 17:40 |
| * TheJulia copies the yes | 17:40 | |
| * jlvillal is unsure | 17:40 | |
| rloo | no | 17:40 |
| * dtantsur feels like some voting | 17:41 | |
| * jlvillal hopes to be going. But travel budget has been very tight at work :( | 17:41 | |
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| rloo | dtantsur: do you/we need to decide now? | 17:41 |
| * TheJulia is sure, but largely because she also knows and understands why the foundation offers friday as an option to teams. | 17:41 | |
| dtantsur | rloo: not necessary. if everyone said "no", I would communicate it to the foundation | 17:41 |
| dtantsur | otherwise we get Friday by default | 17:41 |
| dtantsur | which is fine | 17:42 |
| rloo | dtantsur: ok, some say yes, so as long as 2? people are there and they are productive, then yes is good. | 17:42 |
| dtantsur | ok, thanks | 17:42 |
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| dtantsur | I guess I'm ready to open the floor | 17:42 |
| dtantsur | #topic Open discussion | 17:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:42 | |
| rpioso | dtantsur: Do we need a #agree | 17:43 |
| * TheJulia has nothing for open discussion | 17:44 | |
| rloo | +1 | 17:44 |
| dtantsur | rpioso: not necessary here. it's mostly for me to understand | 17:44 |
| TheJulia | Well, actually | 17:44 |
| TheJulia | A giant sign saying "please review" :) | 17:44 |
| rloo | TheJulia: anything in particular (outside of this week's priorities?) | 17:45 |
| rloo | TheJulia: or a general 'we would love more reviews'? | 17:45 |
| TheJulia | rloo: in general | 17:45 |
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| rloo | +++++ | 17:45 |
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| dtantsur | #info Please be active on reviews, we really need them! | 17:46 |
| TheJulia | <3 | 17:46 |
| rloo | PTG hotel is on Quebec Street. I guess I *have* to go then :-) | 17:46 |
| dtantsur | hah | 17:46 |
| dtantsur | anything else before we move to our nice warm channel? | 17:47 |
| rloo | (Quebec is a province in Canada) | 17:47 |
| dtantsur | I'm saving you 12 minutes of time now: | 17:47 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 17:48 |
| rloo | crickets | 17:48 |
| dtantsur | #endmeeting | 17:48 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:48 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jun 19 17:48:04 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:48 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2017/ironic.2017-06-19-17.00.html | 17:48 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2017/ironic.2017-06-19-17.00.txt | 17:48 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2017/ironic.2017-06-19-17.00.log.html | 17:48 |
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| mlavalle | ildikov: no meeting today? | 20:06 |
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| ildikov | mlavalle: diablo_rojo is sharing info on the channel | 20:06 |
| ildikov | mlavalle: sorry for the last minute chaos :( | 20:07 |
| mlavalle | ildikov: LOL, that's ok | 20:07 |
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| diablo_rojo | There wasnt much to chat about so I didnt think we needed to do a full meeting :) | 20:08 |
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