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| bennco1 | #startmeeting taas | 04:44 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 31 04:44:01 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bennco1. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 04:44 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 04:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: taas)" | 04:44 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'taas' | 04:44 |
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| soichi | hi | 05:31 |
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| bennco1 | hi | 05:31 |
| kaz | hi | 05:32 |
| soichi | #startmeeting taas | 05:32 |
| openstack | soichi: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. Use #endmeeting first. | 05:32 |
| yamamoto | hi | 05:33 |
| soichi | #endmeeting | 05:33 |
| soichi | yamamoto: hi | 05:33 |
| yamamoto | bennco1: are you chairing today? who are you? :-) | 05:33 |
| yamamoto | soichi: only chair can do endmeeting iirc | 05:33 |
| soichi | yamamot: yes | 05:33 |
| bennco1 | #endmeeting | 05:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 05:34 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 31 05:34:06 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 05:34 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2017/taas.2017-05-31-04.44.html | 05:34 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2017/taas.2017-05-31-04.44.txt | 05:34 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2017/taas.2017-05-31-04.44.log.html | 05:34 |
| soichi | #startmeeting taas | 05:34 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 31 05:34:29 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is soichi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 05:34 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 05:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: taas)" | 05:34 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'taas' | 05:34 |
| soichi | hi | 05:34 |
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| soichi | #topic Open Discussion | 05:34 |
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| soichi | bennco1: hi! who are you? :-) | 05:35 |
| davidsha | Hi this is tap-as-a-service? | 05:36 |
| reedip | thats the open discussion ?? :) | 05:36 |
| reedip | davidsha : good morning.. yes | 05:36 |
| davidsha | reedip: good morning! | 05:36 |
| bennco1 | Hi Conrad Bennett from Verizon Wireless - checking out the taas meeting | 05:36 |
| reedip | Hi bennco1 ... welcome | 05:37 |
| soichi | bennco1: welcome | 05:37 |
| bennco1 | thanks | 05:37 |
| bennco1 | and who are you guys? | 05:37 |
| reedip | #info reedip, NEC technologies | 05:37 |
| soichi | #info soichi, Fujitsu Laboratories | 05:38 |
| kaz | kaz, Fujitsu Labolatories | 05:38 |
| davidsha | #info davidsha, Intel Corporation | 05:38 |
| reedip | so soichi : any points to discuss ? | 05:39 |
| soichi | reedip, yamamoto, kaz, and folks: Do you have any topic for today? | 05:39 |
| kaz | yes | 05:39 |
| reedip | soichi : none right now ... | 05:40 |
| kaz | I' m creating taas dashboard. | 05:40 |
| kaz | I added tap-as-a-service-dashboard project to openstack-infra/project-config and posted it. | 05:40 |
| kaz | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/468747/ | 05:40 |
| yamamoto | bennco1: Yamamoto Takashi from Midokura | 05:41 |
| yamamoto | soichi: i don't have anything | 05:41 |
| bennco1 | I have something - I wanted to discuss adding vlan support into the taas project | 05:41 |
| soichi | bennco1: yes, please | 05:42 |
| bennco1 | thoughts? How possible, etc? | 05:42 |
| reedip | bennco1 : can you expand a bit on what you are planning? | 05:42 |
| bennco1 | At the moment taas project becomes unusable when br-tun is not used with the openstack deployment | 05:43 |
| reedip | soichi , yamamoto : IIRC, MAC Learning is not enabled in TaaS | 05:43 |
| bennco1 | and it's just a flat with vlans | 05:43 |
| bennco1 | so with taas supporting vlan backend, in addition to gre, vxlan I think it expands the scope | 05:44 |
| bennco1 | That's a recent use case I have seen - I guess the question is handling the transport without br-tun | 05:45 |
| yamamoto | i thought there were a LP bug for that. i couldn't find it right now though. | 05:46 |
| bennco1 | LP bug? explain pls | 05:47 |
| yamamoto | launchpad bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/tap-as-a-service | 05:47 |
| bennco1 | Can you explain some details of the bug please? What exactly was done and documented? | 05:48 |
| yamamoto | reedip: what do you mean? | 05:48 |
| yamamoto | bennco1: lack of non-tunnel provider network support. maybe you can just file a new one. | 05:50 |
| bennco1 | ahh ok | 05:51 |
| yamamoto | our LP bug is not well managed though. most of us don't have necessary permissions. | 05:52 |
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| bennco1 | that's sad to hear @yamamoto | 05:53 |
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| yamamoto | anyway it's better than nothing. | 05:54 |
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| yamamoto | speaking about LP bugs, | 05:57 |
| reedip | yamamoto : as per our previous discussions with Anil Rao, MAC Learning has been disabled. I am just thinking if it would affect the br-tun being proposed by bennco1 | 05:57 |
| yamamoto | here's something which needs an attention as well https://bugs.launchpad.net/tap-as-a-service/+bug/1693248 | 05:57 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1693248 in tap-as-a-service "[RFE] Mirror VF Ports" [Undecided,New] | 05:57 |
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| bennco1_ | anyone else having connection issues? | 05:58 |
| yamamoto | reedip: ok. i don't think it's related though. | 05:58 |
| yamamoto | bennco1_: i haven't noticed anything. | 05:58 |
| reedip | yamamoto : hmm .. ok | 05:58 |
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| soichi | kaz: thank you for status update report about the taas dashboard. | 06:03 |
| soichi | kaz: who should be a reviewer? | 06:03 |
| soichi | kaz: Are you planning to ask for someone from Horizon team? | 06:03 |
| kaz | soichi: i have no idea. | 06:03 |
| reedip | I think we already have asked amotoki for his comments | 06:03 |
| soichi | reedip: yes | 06:04 |
| kaz | reedip: i will ask him. | 06:04 |
| reedip | soichi , kaz I cannot find the dashboard patch | 06:04 |
| reedip | is it under works? | 06:05 |
| kaz | reedip: yes | 06:05 |
| yamamoto | kaz: please address Andreas' comment. i think it's better to use upstream field. | 06:05 |
| reedip | yeah, you can just create a simple empty repo and do the work :) | 06:05 |
| reedip | bennco1 : could you please raise the issue as a Launchpad bug for TaaS so that we do not lose focus of the issue? | 06:06 |
| kaz | yamamoto: i will recheck it. | 06:06 |
| reedip | bennco1_ : something which might help | 06:09 |
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| bennco1_ | reedip - definitely will | 06:10 |
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| soichi | do you have anything else for today's meeting? | 06:11 |
| bennco1_ | reedip - I didnt receive that file | 06:11 |
| davidsha | I have something to add, if there is nothing else. | 06:12 |
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| soichi | davidsha: yes | 06:12 |
| reedip | bennco1_ sending you the link | 06:12 |
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| reedip | davidsha : please :) | 06:12 |
| bennco1_ | thank you reedip | 06:13 |
| davidsha | I'm hoping to get the work on the L2 flow manager going again: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/320439 | 06:13 |
| davidsha | It's supposed to help multiple neutron ovs extensions work together by provisioning the open flow tables. | 06:13 |
| davidsha | I've rebased the spec and would really appreciate if people from tap could have a look at it to make sure everything is ok with it. | 06:14 |
| reedip | sure davidsha | 06:15 |
| davidsha | reedip: thanks :) | 06:15 |
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| davidsha | That's it for me, thanks for your time! | 06:16 |
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| soichi | davidsha: thank you | 06:17 |
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| soichi | i'd like to close today's meeting if you have no more topics | 06:18 |
| kaz | i think so. | 06:19 |
| yamamoto | +1 | 06:20 |
| soichi | #endmeeting | 06:20 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 31 06:20:17 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 06:20 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2017/taas.2017-05-31-05.34.html | 06:20 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2017/taas.2017-05-31-05.34.txt | 06:20 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2017/taas.2017-05-31-05.34.log.html | 06:20 |
| yamamoto | bye | 06:20 |
| davidsha | Thanks, cya! | 06:20 |
| soichi | thank you, bye | 06:20 |
| kaz | bye | 06:20 |
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| bennco1_ | reedip - did you already send the link | 06:22 |
| bennco1_ | ? | 06:22 |
| bennco1_ | also hopefully this is enough | 06:22 |
| bennco1_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tap-as-a-service/+bug/1694605 | 06:22 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1694605 in tap-as-a-service "Transport Support w/o br-tun " [Undecided,New] | 06:22 |
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| prometheanfire | #startmeeting requirements | 14:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 31 14:59:33 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is prometheanfire. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 14:59 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'requirements' | 14:59 |
| prometheanfire | hmm, a little early | 14:59 |
| prometheanfire | #topic roll call | 14:59 |
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| prometheanfire | dims: dhellmann? | 15:01 |
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| dirk | o/ | 15:01 |
| prometheanfire | don't think we'll get tonyb | 15:01 |
| dims | prometheanfire : o/ | 15:02 |
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| prometheanfire | neato | 15:02 |
| prometheanfire | well, we have three of us | 15:02 |
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| prometheanfire | # topic unblocking uc nightly updates | 15:03 |
| * strigazi just watching | 15:03 | |
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| prometheanfire | the mail I sent to the list yesterday seems to have some good action taken | 15:03 |
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| prometheanfire | mainly need to bug mistral people to change their release type now I think | 15:04 |
| prometheanfire | anyone have anything to add for that effort? | 15:04 |
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| dims | nothing from me prometheanfire | 15:05 |
| dirk | not from me | 15:05 |
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| prometheanfire | k | 15:05 |
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| prometheanfire | #topic readme updates | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "readme updates (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 15:05 | |
| prometheanfire | #link https://review.openstack.org/468107 | 15:05 |
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| prometheanfire | #link https://review.openstack.org/469234 | 15:06 |
| prometheanfire | please review :D | 15:06 |
| prometheanfire | they are more clarifiying current stance and make sure the intermediary thing doesn't happen again | 15:07 |
| prometheanfire | #topic another requests update | 15:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "another requests update (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 15:07 | |
| dims | prometheanfire : +2 on one and a femto-nit on the other | 15:08 |
| prometheanfire | I've seen in the nightly job that requests is breaking things again, so we'll need to look into that and fix it | 15:08 |
| prometheanfire | dims: thanks | 15:08 |
| dirk | prometheanfire: will do (review) | 15:09 |
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| dirk | prometheanfire: create a tracker bugreport and push it into a separate review? | 15:09 |
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| prometheanfire | ya | 15:09 |
| dirk | then we can add "also affects" to the other projects that are broken and make them fix it | 15:09 |
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| prometheanfire | I've been trying to clean up the other stuff, but now that that's happening we can focus on requests | 15:10 |
| prometheanfire | on that note | 15:10 |
| prometheanfire | #topic we should probably start going through https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-requirements/ more regularly | 15:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "we should probably start going through https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-requirements/ more regularly (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 15:11 | |
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| prometheanfire | I've been guilty of that as well | 15:11 |
| prometheanfire | so will start going through it more often | 15:11 |
| dirk | prometheanfire: yep, I was trying to get notifications for bugs but that doesn't seem to work | 15:11 |
| dims | y, i haven't done that in a while | 15:11 |
| dirk | or the emails are going somewhere where I don't find them.. | 15:11 |
| prometheanfire | I just created a subscription | 15:12 |
| prometheanfire | not sure if it works or not, but I know I get emails for security bugs | 15:12 |
| prometheanfire | dims: and the readme is fixed | 15:13 |
| prometheanfire | #topic uncapping more things | 15:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "uncapping more things (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 15:14 | |
| prometheanfire | I think we can uncap some more requirements, I know pysnmp should be good to go, it's had it's cap for 4 years without ever even hitting it | 15:14 |
| prometheanfire | 14 other caps right now, we should pick one at a time I think | 15:15 |
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| prometheanfire | but that's more for future thought | 15:15 |
| dims | ack prometheanfire | 15:15 |
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| prometheanfire | # outstanding reviews in the queue? | 15:16 |
| prometheanfire | I don't think I have anything else | 15:16 |
| dims | one question - anything we need to do for pike-2 milestone? next week https://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html | 15:16 |
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| dims | freeze u-c/g-r for a week? | 15:17 |
| prometheanfire | don't think so we aren't in the pike deliverables, as far as a freeze goes let me look | 15:17 |
| prometheanfire | I don't think we need to do that | 15:18 |
| prometheanfire | not yet at least | 15:18 |
| prometheanfire | Jul 24 - Jul 28 is the reqs freeze | 15:19 |
| prometheanfire | https://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html | 15:19 |
| prometheanfire | #link https://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html | 15:19 |
| dims | ack | 15:19 |
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| prometheanfire | #topic open floor | 15:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open floor (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 15:21 | |
| dirk | regarding uncapping, prometheanfire are you uncapping stuff as needed ? should I help with anything? | 15:21 |
| prometheanfire | I think we can hold that discussion for a week | 15:21 |
| prometheanfire | but I'm trying to uncap as I see things | 15:22 |
| prometheanfire | gr has 14 remaining caps, some of which should be removable I hope | 15:22 |
| prometheanfire | closing this in 1 min if no one speaks up | 15:24 |
| dims | :) | 15:25 |
| prometheanfire | #endmeeting | 15:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:26 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 31 15:26:14 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:26 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/requirements/2017/requirements.2017-05-31-14.59.html | 15:26 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/requirements/2017/requirements.2017-05-31-14.59.txt | 15:26 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/requirements/2017/requirements.2017-05-31-14.59.log.html | 15:26 |
| prometheanfire | see ya next week | 15:26 |
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| eglute | #startmeeting interopwg | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 31 16:01:03 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is eglute. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'interopwg' | 16:01 |
| markvoelker | o/ | 16:01 |
| eglute | #chair markvoelker | 16:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: eglute markvoelker | 16:01 |
| eglute | hello everyone! | 16:01 |
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| eglute | #topic agenda | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:01 | |
| eglute | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropVertigo.2 | 16:01 |
| eglute | please update agenda as needed | 16:01 |
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| hogepodge | o/ | 16:02 |
| eglute | raise your hand if you are here for interop meeting :) | 16:02 |
| mguiney | o/ | 16:02 |
| catherine_d|1 | o/ | 16:02 |
| eglute | #topic 2017.08 Guideline | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "2017.08 Guideline (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:02 | |
| eglute | thanks everyone that helped with scoring, all scoring patches were merged | 16:03 |
| eglute | i think what is left is creating the actual 2017.08.json | 16:03 |
| eglute | we can do that after the latest flagging/removing tests patches get merged | 16:04 |
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| eglute | any other comments on 2017.08? | 16:04 |
| eglute | #topic Add aliases for test_volumes_list | 16:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Add aliases for test_volumes_list (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:05 | |
| hogepodge | mguiney: has some patches up for keystone that may impact the guideline | 16:05 |
| eglute | oh that one is abandoned now, nevermind then. | 16:05 |
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| hogepodge | actually testing for capabilities that we would want to have as advisory | 16:06 |
| eglute | thanks hogepodge and mguiney | 16:06 |
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| eglute | ok! i saw mguiney added them to the agenda, thank you | 16:06 |
| mguiney | (sorry for the late addition) | 16:07 |
| eglute | np, thank you! | 16:07 |
| Rockyg | o/ | 16:08 |
| eglute | actually lets move them up on the agenda, since they relate to 2017.08 | 16:08 |
| eglute | #topic non-admin token validation test | 16:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "non-admin token validation test (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:08 | |
| eglute | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/467493/ | 16:08 |
| eglute | so if these tests get merged, does that mean we will be adding new capabilities to 2017.08? | 16:09 |
| mguiney | I think that is the goal, yes | 16:09 |
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| mguiney | because both of these capabilities are testable without admin capabilities | 16:10 |
| eglute | i think technically it would be a tad late for our timeline, but i think i am ok with that. What do others think? | 16:10 |
| hogepodge | It's something we've talked about and worked on, so I'd be fine with it | 16:11 |
| hogepodge | It's not like we're adding capabilities that didn't exist in OpenStack beforehand, they just weren't tested in a way we could use | 16:11 |
| eglute | i agree hogepodge | 16:11 |
| markvoelker | Yeah, I think I'm ok with this. For reference, this was discussed in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/456774/ back in April I beleive | 16:12 |
| hogepodge | They are also widely used and critically important capabilities. | 16:12 |
| eglute | markvoelker correct | 16:12 |
| eglute | mguiney would you create a new patch for keystone once these tests get merged? | 16:12 |
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| eglute | seems like i merged the keystone patch too soon | 16:13 |
| mguiney | for the keystone scoring? yes, I will absolutely be able to do that | 16:13 |
| eglute | great, thank you mguiney | 16:14 |
| eglute | #action mguiney create new keystone scoring patch with added tests once the new tests get merged | 16:14 |
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| eglute | #topic catalog standardization test | 16:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "catalog standardization test (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:15 | |
| eglute | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/467493/ | 16:15 |
| eglute | mguiney would this test be also added if it merges? | 16:16 |
| eglute | added to the new guideline that is | 16:16 |
| mguiney | that would be the other keystone patch! theres a bit more work i still need to do on that one, but if anyone has feedback i'd love to hear it | 16:16 |
| mguiney | *keystone test patch | 16:16 |
| eglute | thank you mguiney! | 16:16 |
| markvoelker | Hmm, same link? | 16:17 |
| eglute | heh, markvoelker is right. mguiney? | 16:17 |
| markvoelker | Those links both go to the non-admin token test. I think the second one we wanted to discuss was the catalog standardization stuff. | 16:17 |
| mguiney | oh dear | 16:18 |
| mguiney | hold on | 16:18 |
| mguiney | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/467528/ | 16:18 |
| mguiney | is the catalog standardization test | 16:18 |
| markvoelker | that's the one | 16:18 |
| eglute | mguiney in your comments you state that "This test may belong as an "admin" capability" | 16:20 |
| eglute | do you know yet whether it will require admin? | 16:20 |
| mguiney | that would be because the catalog inly exposes part of the catalogs if the user only has the access to see some of the services | 16:20 |
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| eglute | ok, so if the test is admin, then we would not be adding to keystone capabilities | 16:22 |
| mguiney | yeah, that would make sense | 16:22 |
| hogepodge | Two tests might be appropriate then, one that checks admin-only services and one that checks non-admin services | 16:22 |
| hogepodge | Because it's still something we want to check for. Not having nova or keystone publicly available would be a problem, for example. | 16:22 |
| mguiney | that would make sense | 16:23 |
| markvoelker | ++, the services we're including in guidelines should be available to non-admin users. | 16:23 |
| eglute | agree... if we have one non-admin test, that can be added | 16:23 |
| eglute | so if the test is added in time, would that also add new capability? i need to look :) | 16:24 |
| mguiney | the one i have up, when smoothed out a little, should work as the nonadmin test | 16:24 |
| markvoelker | eglute: yes, this would be a new capability (so advisory at best) | 16:24 |
| eglute | ok, so do we need a deadline until when advisory capabilities can be added to 2017.08? | 16:25 |
| catherine_d|1 | eglute: markvoelker: should the capability be existing for more than 2 releases? | 16:25 |
| eglute | catherine_d|1 yes... is this new? | 16:26 |
| markvoelker | catherine_d|1: Yes, the capability being tested needs to apply to all releases covered in the guideline. | 16:26 |
| hogepodge | It's tricky. Catalogs have existed from the beginning, but the enforcement is new. | 16:26 |
| Rockyg | catherine_d|1, good point. but another reason for advisory. Let folks know it's coming as tehy upgrade | 16:26 |
| hogepodge | The enforcement tries to catch common variants | 16:26 |
| markvoelker | TEchnically there's nothing the test uses that hasn't been in Keystone forever | 16:26 |
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| markvoelker | So I'd think it's a good idea to make it advisory sooner rather than later | 16:27 |
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| markvoelker | Weeeellll...actually that's not quite true since it's using v3 of the API, which hasn't been there forever. But you get the point. =) | 16:27 |
| eglute | works for me! | 16:27 |
| catherine_d|1 | usually capabilities in the advisory section will be candidated for required in the next JSON ... | 16:27 |
| eglute | lets add it as advisory if we can | 16:27 |
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| eglute | anything else on this topic? | 16:28 |
| catherine_d|1 | does that meet the 2 releases requirement? Just want to see how this stack up against our own policy for consistency | 16:28 |
| markvoelker | catherine_d|1: The API's being used here have been available for many, many releases now. So there's nothing new on that front. | 16:29 |
| markvoelker | What's new is that we're enforcing particular values in the catalog | 16:29 |
| markvoelker | So it will not fall afoul of the 2-release requirement | 16:29 |
| markvoelker | It's more a matter of how fast we can get feedback as to whether this would trip anyone up. | 16:30 |
| catherine_d|1 | that is good then | 16:30 |
| hogepodge | policy vs capability | 16:30 |
| Rockyg | ++ | 16:30 |
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| hogepodge | This should be communicated on the interop and dev mailing lists | 16:31 |
| hogepodge | Let's not surprise anybody. | 16:31 |
| Rockyg | and ops? | 16:31 |
| hogepodge | yes, ops too. thanks Rockyg | 16:31 |
| markvoelker | I would even be willing to put a note in the goodline to the effect of "this is one we'll wait on for two full cycles before we switch to required since it arrived late", but I'd like to start getting the feedback soon. | 16:31 |
| markvoelker | * s/goodline/guideline/ | 16:32 |
| eglute | we can't communicate until 2017.08.json is created | 16:32 |
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| eglute | so we need a deadline for adding things to next.json | 16:32 |
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| Rockyg | I think the user commitee ml, also, with all the vertical affinities in the subject -- lcoo, ldt, etc | 16:33 |
| zhipeng_ | btw, if we decides to put heat and designate on "addon" | 16:33 |
| zhipeng_ | do we need the tests to be added as well ? | 16:33 |
| eglute | zhipeng_ yes, add-ons would also have tests | 16:33 |
| Rockyg | zhipeng_, yes, we do. we should at least get them in as advisory. | 16:33 |
| zhipeng_ | so that would mean the same deadline , right ? | 16:34 |
| eglute | markvoelker hogepodge what deadline do you have in mind for changes to next.json | 16:34 |
| markvoelker | zhipeng_: Not necessarily. What we're creating here is the OpenStack Powered guideline, not add-on guidelines. | 16:34 |
| eglute | is 2 weeks enough? | 16:34 |
| hogepodge | This should be considered as a side project to the Powered guideline. | 16:35 |
| zhipeng_ | so add-ons would be another guideline based upon schema 2.0 ? | 16:35 |
| hogepodge | Let's not tie them tightly together. | 16:35 |
| markvoelker | zhipeng_: basically, yes. | 16:35 |
| zhipeng_ | ok got it :) | 16:35 |
| zhipeng_ | but still it needs to be ran before the board ? | 16:35 |
| eglute | zhipeng_ correct, everything is board approved | 16:35 |
| markvoelker | eglute: June 8 is when testing is supposed to start, which is approximately one week from now...is that enough time? | 16:35 |
| hogepodge | That seems like the safest way forward. I can try to get a major update done soon. I have minor surgery tomorrow, but should be able to give it full attention on Monday and Tuesday. | 16:36 |
| eglute | mguiney do you think 1 week is enough for all the changes? | 16:36 |
| mguiney | as i mentioned, the catalog test is not as close to ready as the other one, but i can certainly try and getthat ironed out | 16:36 |
| eglute | mguiney ok, if it is not ready in 1 week (or almost ready) it may have to be pushed out to the next guideline | 16:37 |
| * mguiney nods | 16:37 | |
| mguiney | that makes sense | 16:37 |
| eglute | thank you mguiney for your work!! | 16:38 |
| eglute | anything else on this? | 16:38 |
| eglute | thanks everyone! | 16:39 |
| eglute | #action eveyrone review patches https://review.openstack.org/#/c/467493/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/467528/ | 16:39 |
| eglute | #topic Create tools to increase ease of scoring | 16:39 |
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| eglute | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/458716/ | 16:40 |
| eglute | thanks to luzC for reviewing! | 16:40 |
| eglute | if luzC and others are good with the latest changes, we can merge this patch later this week | 16:40 |
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| eglute | any other comments on the tool? | 16:41 |
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| markvoelker | Just a nit that it would be nice to add some inline help like we have in the other scripts | 16:42 |
| markvoelker | We can do that in a follow-up if you like though. | 16:42 |
| eglute | thanks markvoelker for reviewing it | 16:42 |
| mguiney | ahhhh yes that would be a good idea | 16:42 |
| mguiney | i can do that and push the patch asap | 16:42 |
| eglute | thanks mguiney! | 16:43 |
| eglute | anything else? | 16:43 |
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| eglute | #topic Add Aliases For VolumeV2 Test Cases Part 1 | 16:43 |
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| eglute | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/462860/ | 16:44 |
| zhipeng_ | lucZ helped review the patch | 16:44 |
| eglute | zhipeng_ are you able to fix it? | 16:44 |
| zhipeng_ | and I will update it before the end of the week, see if multiple aliases pass the CI | 16:44 |
| zhipeng_ | yes I think so | 16:44 |
| zhipeng_ | it is just so many lines lol | 16:44 |
| eglute | zhipeng_ thanks! and thanks to luzC for reviewing it! | 16:44 |
| eglute | zhipeng_ if it helps, break it up in several patches | 16:45 |
| zhipeng_ | yep I already break it to two :) | 16:45 |
| eglute | thank you zhipeng_! | 16:45 |
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| eglute | and thank you for working on this! | 16:46 |
| eglute | anything else on this patch? | 16:46 |
| eglute | #topic Remove test_delete_active_server | 16:46 |
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| eglute | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/463944/ | 16:46 |
| eglute | markvoelker reviewed it this morning, so we will give time for updates | 16:47 |
| markvoelker | I'll just note here that the related patch in tempest is still undergoing some discussion as well | 16:47 |
| eglute | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/463942/ | 16:48 |
| markvoelker | I think gist of it is that the same functionality in the test that's being proposed for removal is covered elsewhere...but in a less atomic way. | 16:48 |
| markvoelker | I haven't had a chance to look at the other tests that cover this functionality yet though (E_TOO_MUCH_BIZ_TRAVEL) | 16:49 |
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| markvoelker | It would be great if folks can take a look though--removing this test from tempest isn't necessarily a foregone conclusion yet, and it might actually work out better for us if it stays. | 16:49 |
| eglute | thanks markvoelker... there is always so much to do. | 16:50 |
| eglute | +1 | 16:50 |
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| Rockyg | Losing interop test coverage is never good. | 16:51 |
| eglute | Rockyg agreed | 16:51 |
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| eglute | #topic Remove duplicated testcase test_get_private_image | 16:51 |
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| eglute | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454489/ | 16:52 |
| eglute | more test removal | 16:52 |
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| eglute | but only in an old guideline | 16:52 |
| eglute | so not sure that it is relevant still, i think not | 16:52 |
| markvoelker | Yeah, I'd prefer we not start going back and updating guidelines that really can't be used anymore...just makes more work for no particular end, IMHO. | 16:53 |
| eglute | should we be archiving old guidelines? | 16:53 |
| hogepodge | I'm convinced by Mark's argument. | 16:53 |
| markvoelker | We already mark them as superseded | 16:53 |
| eglute | me too! | 16:53 |
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| markvoelker | By archive you mean stick them in a separate directory or something? | 16:53 |
| eglute | markvoelker yes | 16:54 |
| eglute | as for this patch, i think we need to abandon it | 16:54 |
| hogepodge | catherine and the refstack team are ok with updated to account for that, I'd be ok with it. | 16:54 |
| hogepodge | (if) | 16:54 |
| markvoelker | I think I proposed that a year or two ago and we decided against it....I'd have to find that patch to remember the context though. | 16:55 |
| eglute | hogepodge is right... refstack might still pull the old guidelines | 16:55 |
| eglute | markvoelker may have been refstack related? | 16:55 |
| markvoelker | could be | 16:55 |
| Rockyg | we'll give you a week, markvoelker to find that patch ;-) | 16:55 |
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| eglute | ok, we can save this discussion for later, since only 4 min left | 16:56 |
| Rockyg | But, refstack could pull from the archive for old stuff | 16:56 |
| Rockyg | good separation | 16:56 |
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| Rockyg | good hygiene | 16:56 |
| eglute | #topic Flagging Regarding Public Cloud Subnet | 16:56 |
| markvoelker | Rockyg: already done...the discussion was in this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202345/ | 16:57 |
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| eglute | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/460372/ | 16:57 |
| markvoelker | (see Rob's comments on patchset 7) | 16:57 |
| Rockyg | >P markv | 16:57 |
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| eglute | thanks markvoelker for digging that up... i have forgotten all about it | 16:58 |
| eglute | regarding flagging subnets | 16:59 |
| eglute | any comments? | 16:59 |
| eglute | everyone, please review | 16:59 |
| eglute | also, please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/463263/ | 16:59 |
| eglute | and we are out of time | 17:00 |
| eglute | thanks everyone, if needed, i will be in the interop irc later today | 17:00 |
| eglute | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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| robcresswell | #startmeeting horizon | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 31 20:00:14 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is robcresswell. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
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| ducttape_ | 0/ | 20:01 |
| ducttape_ | o/ | 20:01 |
| robcresswell | quiet room today :) | 20:01 |
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| robcresswell | I'll make a couple announcements for anyone who reads the logs and otherwise we can just end early | 20:02 |
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| robcresswell | #topic Notices | 20:02 |
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| david-lyle | o/ | 20:03 |
| robcresswell | #info Stable versions have been updated: 10.0.4 (Newton) and 11.0.2 (Ocata) | 20:03 |
| gary-smith | o/ | 20:03 |
| ying_zuo | o/ | 20:03 |
| robcresswell | #info Pike-2 Milestone is in 8 days, see #link https://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html | 20:03 |
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| gugl | o/ | 20:04 |
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| robcresswell | #info Django OpenStack Auth has been released, has minor translation/requirements changes (currently blocking Django update, which is the reason for the tag) #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/469420/ | 20:05 |
| robcresswell | I think thats all for announcements | 20:05 |
| robcresswell | did anyone else have anything? | 20:05 |
| robcresswell | #topic Open Discussion | 20:06 |
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| robcresswell | So, open floor; if anyone has any questions, patches, blueprints, etc. now is the time to ask | 20:06 |
| robcresswell | Alright, I think we can end early today :) | 20:09 |
| robcresswell | Thanks everyone | 20:09 |
| gugl | bye | 20:09 |
| robcresswell | #endmeeting | 20:09 |
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| dansmith | #startmeeting nova_cells | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 31 21:00:00 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dansmith. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_cells' | 21:00 |
| dansmith | wuh dup | 21:00 |
| melwitt | hai | 21:00 |
| dtp | hi | 21:00 |
| dansmith | #topic bugs'n'stuff | 21:01 |
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| dansmith | anyone have anything for this section? I bet mriedem does/would | 21:01 |
| * melwitt casts summon mriedem | 21:01 | |
| mriedem | HI! | 21:01 |
| mriedem | bugs, yes | 21:02 |
| mriedem | gd where is it | 21:02 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/468646/ | 21:02 |
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| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/469207/ and below | 21:02 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/469548/ | 21:02 |
| mriedem | ^ are all ocata backports but cells v2 related | 21:02 |
| dansmith | cripes | 21:03 |
| dansmith | okay I have tab-queued those | 21:03 |
| mriedem | dansmith: realized yesterday that we don't need the marker not found fix for newton, | 21:03 |
| mriedem | because we didn't actually populate cell0 in newton | 21:03 |
| dansmith | okay | 21:03 |
| mriedem | we just check it each and every time we list instances | 21:03 |
| mriedem | which sucks | 21:03 |
| mriedem | but... | 21:03 |
| dansmith | heh | 21:03 |
| dansmith | anything else/ | 21:04 |
| mriedem | i think that's it | 21:04 |
| dansmith | cool | 21:04 |
| dansmith | #topic open reviews | 21:04 |
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| dansmith | melwitt: any progress at all on the quotas stuff? | 21:04 |
| mriedem | f yes there was | 21:04 |
| melwitt | yeah, the bottom patch merged yesterday I think, big shout out to mriedem and jaypipes \o/ | 21:05 |
| dansmith | woot | 21:05 |
| dansmith | I was helpfully out | 21:05 |
| melwitt | yeah, perfect timing (for you) :) | 21:05 |
| mriedem | need a test on the new bottom change and then that's +Wable | 21:06 |
| melwitt | so, that was the beast of the series, I hope the rest shall go easier | 21:06 |
| dansmith | yeah, cool | 21:06 |
| mriedem | for the services uuid in api thing, i addressed the cells rpc api version bump thing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/461532/ | 21:06 |
| mriedem | so that needs a re-look | 21:06 |
| dansmith | okay | 21:07 |
| dansmith | my set is down to two, both +2d I think.. once we merge that live migration thing I can start heckling sdague about merging the devstack change | 21:07 |
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| mriedem | he's out until next week, just fyi | 21:07 |
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| dansmith | okay that's probably fine | 21:08 |
| dansmith | anything else? | 21:08 |
| melwitt | as of today recently I have the placement project/user series up lacking tests https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:placement-project-user if people want to get a head start and tell me what stupid things I did wrong while I dig into tests | 21:08 |
| dansmith | ah cool | 21:08 |
| mriedem | i'm sure cdent and edleafe will be happy to look those over | 21:08 |
| melwitt | yeah, I'll give them a heads up about it | 21:09 |
| dansmith | que mas? | 21:10 |
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| mriedem | i don't have anything really, | 21:10 |
| * dansmith can't do the upside-down question mark thingy at the front | 21:10 | |
| mriedem | still need to start the hypervisor uuids stuff in the apim | 21:10 |
| mriedem | but sidetracked with cinder v3 api things | 21:10 |
| dansmith | okay | 21:11 |
| dansmith | #topic open discussion | 21:11 |
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| dansmith | I got nothing else | 21:11 |
| mriedem | nor i | 21:11 |
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| dansmith | melwitt: dtp? | 21:12 |
| melwitt | yo tengo nada tambien | 21:12 |
| dtp | nothing here | 21:12 |
| dansmith | bien, gracias | 21:12 |
| dansmith | es todo el mundo para los pollos locos | 21:12 |
| dansmith | ^^ all the rest of my spanish in one go | 21:13 |
| mriedem | no el bano? | 21:13 |
| mriedem | biblioteca? | 21:13 |
| dansmith | heh | 21:13 |
| dtp | das disco | 21:13 |
| dansmith | okay I think the poor spanish means we're done here | 21:13 |
| dansmith | #endmeeting | 21:14 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 31 21:14:04 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:14 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2017/nova_cells.2017-05-31-21.00.html | 21:14 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2017/nova_cells.2017-05-31-21.00.txt | 21:14 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2017/nova_cells.2017-05-31-21.00.log.html | 21:14 |
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