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| soichi | hi | 05:33 |
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| soichi | #startmeeting taas | 05:35 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 24 05:35:07 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is soichi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 05:35 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 05:35 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'taas' | 05:35 |
| soichi | #tpoic Open Discussion | 05:35 |
| soichi | #topic Open Discussion | 05:35 |
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| soichi | i'm waiting taas folks | 05:37 |
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| soichi | i'd like to close (skip) today's meeting. | 05:45 |
| soichi | thank you, bye | 05:46 |
| soichi | #endmeeting | 05:46 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 24 05:46:06 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 05:46 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2017/taas.2017-05-24-05.35.html | 05:46 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2017/taas.2017-05-24-05.35.txt | 05:46 |
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| kaz | bye | 05:46 |
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| claudiub | #startmeeting hyper-v | 13:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 24 13:02:25 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is claudiub. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'hyper_v' | 13:02 |
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| seanhandley | o/ | 13:02 |
| claudiub | hellou | 13:02 |
| lpetrut | hey | 13:02 |
| claudiub | so, I'll go through a few things we're currently doing at the moment | 13:03 |
| claudiub | #topic Windows Server 2016 Network Controller support | 13:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Windows Server 2016 Network Controller support (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:04 | |
| claudiub | as you might know, Windows Server 2016 comes with a Network Controller, which has quite a few features. | 13:05 |
| claudiub | you can more information about it in the blueprint: | 13:06 |
| claudiub | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/networking-hyperv/+spec/hyperv-network-virtualization-support | 13:06 |
| claudiub | there are primarely 2 parts to the implementation: the agent side, and the neutron mechanism driver side. | 13:06 |
| claudiub | the agent side has been merged already | 13:06 |
| claudiub | and on mechanism driver for neutron is up for review, but we're running tempest first, so we make sure it integrates properly. | 13:07 |
| claudiub | here's the list of patches related to the network controller: | 13:08 |
| claudiub | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/networking-hyperv+branch:master+topic:bp/hyperv-network-virtualization-support | 13:08 |
| claudiub | after everything is merged, we're planning on adding python-hnvclient (a RESTful API wrapper for the Network Controller) into the Winstackers governance | 13:09 |
| claudiub | any questions? | 13:09 |
| claudiub | if not, moving on. | 13:09 |
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| claudiub | #topic os-win tempest plugin | 13:10 |
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| claudiub | sooo, this is something i've started working on. Tempest has a plugin system, which allows anyone to develop their own sets of tests without having to merged them into the tempest project itself. | 13:11 |
| claudiub | the plugin implementation is fairly straight-forward and easy to use | 13:11 |
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| claudiub | we're planning on adding tests for all, or at least most of the features we've merged into nova, and other projects. for example: tests for Hyper-V Generation 2 VMs, UEFI secure boot, shielded VMs, etc. | 13:13 |
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| claudiub | #topic nova Hyper-V SR-IOV support | 13:16 |
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| claudiub | we're currently working on adding support for it in nova. Basically, the Hyper-V nova driver will report to nova available and assignable VFs, and they can be claimed via flavor extra_specs. | 13:17 |
| claudiub | #topic open discussion | 13:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:18 | |
| claudiub | that's pretty much the main points of interest we're working on at the moment. | 13:19 |
| claudiub | any questions? | 13:19 |
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| claudiub | if not, we can end it here. | 13:20 |
| claudiub | thanks for joining, see you next week! | 13:21 |
| claudiub | #endmeeting | 13:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 13:21 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 24 13:21:08 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:21 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2017/hyper_v.2017-05-24-13.02.html | 13:21 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2017/hyper_v.2017-05-24-13.02.txt | 13:21 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2017/hyper_v.2017-05-24-13.02.log.html | 13:21 |
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| tobberydberg | So, who is here for the public cloud wg meeting? | 14:02 |
| zhipeng_ | o/ | 14:02 |
| tobberydberg | Hi zhipeng_! | 14:02 |
| zhipeng_ | Hey :) | 14:03 |
| yankcrime | 👋 | 14:03 |
| tobberydberg | Nice to see you all! Right now, it a tie in attendance wirth last meeting ;-) | 14:03 |
| yankcrime | lol | 14:04 |
| tobberydberg | but I'm sure we have some more people joining here | 14:04 |
| seanhandley | hey folks o/ | 14:04 |
| tobberydberg | hey....new record! =) | 14:04 |
| tobberydberg | S | 14:05 |
| tobberydberg | oooops | 14:05 |
| tobberydberg | #startmeeting publiccloud-wg | 14:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 24 14:05:55 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tobberydberg. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: publiccloud-wg)" | 14:05 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'publiccloud_wg' | 14:05 |
| tobberydberg | Lets start the meeting and hope that more people joining in soon | 14:06 |
| tobberydberg | #topic Recap Boston Summit | 14:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Recap Boston Summit (Meeting topic: publiccloud-wg)" | 14:06 | |
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| tobberydberg | First of all, big thanks to everyone doing a great job in promoting the group! We got a lot of attention, more that I could have hoped for! | 14:07 |
| seanhandley | +1 | 14:08 |
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| yankcrime | yup | 14:08 |
| seanhandley | Really awesome seeing so much interest and support | 14:08 |
| tobberydberg | And we see the result here today....meeting attendance record! ;-) | 14:08 |
| yankcrime | fwiw the two etherpads related to the sessions at boston are https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS-forum-Features-Missing-For-Public-Clouds and https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS-forum-Features-Missing-For-Public-Clouds | 14:08 |
| tobberydberg | ah, good! | 14:09 |
| tobberydberg | same link twice =) | 14:10 |
| zhipeng_ | haha | 14:10 |
| tobberydberg | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS-forum-Shared-Commercial-Goals-Public-Clouds | 14:10 |
| tobberydberg | thats the other one | 14:10 |
| yankcrime | yeah sorry, copy paste fail | 14:10 |
| yankcrime | like seanhandley i can't compute either | 14:11 |
| zhipeng_ | lol | 14:11 |
| tobberydberg | haha | 14:11 |
| seanhandley | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS-forum-Features-Missing-For-Public-Clouds | 14:11 |
| tobberydberg | So, my thought here was to see if we have "unfinished business" from Boston that we need to take care of | 14:12 |
| seanhandley | Don't forget to add yourself to the participants list on the Etherpad folks | 14:12 |
| seanhandley | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/publiccloud-wg | 14:12 |
| tobberydberg | One good thing decided/suggested at the summit was to send out recap on the mailing list from the meetings....which I will do today as a start of that | 14:14 |
| tobberydberg | #action tobberydbergwill send out meeting summary for todays meeting | 14:14 |
| zhipeng_ | thx tobbias that'd be great | 14:15 |
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| tobberydberg | have someone been thinking more about "upstream friday"? | 14:16 |
| seanhandley | Yes tobberydberg | 14:17 |
| tobberydberg | if so, how was that received in the organization? | 14:17 |
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| seanhandley | DataCentred is happy to commit one week per month upstream dev work. On the premise that one week continuous dev work lets you go deeper. | 14:18 |
| seanhandley | so I've been spending time since Boston getting myself familiar with the code and brushing up on Python (it's been a while) | 14:18 |
| tobberydberg | That is awesome! | 14:18 |
| zhipeng_ | awesome ! | 14:19 |
| seanhandley | and we're happy to get another developer (Eugenia Grieff) working with the same arrangement after a couple of months | 14:19 |
| seanhandley | (that way I can more easily mentor her on the processes needed to commit code to the projects) | 14:19 |
| tobberydberg | I haven't got the opportunity yet myself to take that question to the next level due to some traveling, but will for sure | 14:19 |
| zhipeng_ | but we need to settle down first about the common goal for a certain cycle | 14:20 |
| zhipeng_ | I think we could start setting up our own repo :P | 14:20 |
| seanhandley | zhipeng_: This is true. I've been looking at the features list we identified in Boston. | 14:20 |
| tobberydberg | Really nice to here seanhandley ... and fun for you as well =) | 14:20 |
| seanhandley | Yeah for sure :-) | 14:20 |
| zhipeng_ | seanhandley we should start tagging which ones are solved and which ones needs work | 14:21 |
| tobberydberg | Yep! zhipeng_ you are right! | 14:21 |
| zhipeng_ | I could volunteer myself for that | 14:21 |
| tobberydberg | taken! =) | 14:21 |
| tobberydberg | its important, abd I know you are in to that zhipeng_ so that would be really good! | 14:22 |
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| tobberydberg | thanks | 14:22 |
| tobberydberg | so, add that as an action for you zhipeng_? | 14:23 |
| zhipeng_ | yep no problem | 14:23 |
| tobberydberg | Cool! | 14:23 |
| zhipeng_ | and i will let the team know as soon as i finnish it, hopefully next week | 14:23 |
| tobberydberg | sounds perfect | 14:24 |
| tobberydberg | #action zhipeng_ will setup repo for public cloud upstream dev | 14:25 |
| tobberydberg | (or, was that included in that?) | 14:26 |
| seanhandley | #link Missing Features for Public Cloud https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Mf8OAyTzZxCKzYHMgBl-QK_2-XSycSkOjqCyMTIedkA/edit | 14:26 |
| zhipeng_ | oh not the repo tho, I mean for the feature list | 14:26 |
| tobberydberg | ahh | 14:26 |
| tobberydberg | #action zhipeng_ will go over missing features list and tag what is done, planned for upcoming release, needs attention | 14:27 |
| tobberydberg | More correct, right? =) | 14:27 |
| zhipeng_ | :) yes | 14:27 |
| tobberydberg | That would do a lot I believe | 14:28 |
| tobberydberg | Something that you guys have on this topic? | 14:29 |
| yankcrime | there's an action on all interested parties to review that list | 14:30 |
| seanhandley | +1 | 14:30 |
| yankcrime | you need to point that out when you send out the email recap of this meeting | 14:30 |
| tobberydberg | +1 | 14:30 |
| yankcrime | and then give people a deadline for responding | 14:30 |
| yankcrime | that way zhipeng_ can take stock and prioritise | 14:30 |
| tobberydberg | good one! | 14:30 |
| tobberydberg | I'll do that for sure | 14:31 |
| seanhandley | Is there anyone in attendance that hasn't added themselves to the participants section on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/publiccloud-wg ? So far I see only tobberydberg, zhipeng_, yankcrime and myself. Anyone else alive? :-) | 14:31 |
| tobberydberg | Don't think so =) | 14:32 |
| tobberydberg | We will for sure need to keep working on getting people to these meetings | 14:33 |
| tobberydberg | I know time difference is a b... in this case | 14:33 |
| zhipeng_ | we need to draft mnaser at least :P | 14:34 |
| tobberydberg | But, I know there is more EU players that need to be here ?) | 14:34 |
| tobberydberg | Thought I saw him online earlier | 14:34 |
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| tobberydberg | but ok, just a thought | 14:34 |
| zhipeng_ | who could we drag from OVH ? | 14:34 |
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| tobberydberg | Looking at the first meeting and then "Adam Kijak" did attend | 14:36 |
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| tobberydberg | could it be that we should try to send out reminder to personal emails for earlier participants? | 14:36 |
| seanhandley | Hard to say | 14:37 |
| seanhandley | People have lots of commitments :-) | 14:37 |
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| zhipeng_ | i think we should | 14:37 |
| tobberydberg | know | 14:37 |
| seanhandley | I think encouraging people to hang out more in #openstack-publiccloud perhaps | 14:37 |
| tobberydberg | But maybe emails on the lists just "disappears" ? | 14:37 |
| zhipeng_ | seanhandley agree | 14:38 |
| tobberydberg | ablsolutly...starting with myself in that case =) | 14:38 |
| tobberydberg | but agree, lets start with thtat, and I'll include that in the summary email | 14:38 |
| tobberydberg | ...especially when it comes to discussions, realeses, commits etc regarding the gap doc | 14:39 |
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| tobberydberg | ...and all work around that... Help each other getting started with upstream | 14:39 |
| zhipeng_ | yep :) | 14:40 |
| tobberydberg | 40 min in....lets move on to next topic | 14:40 |
| tobberydberg | #topic Goals for Sydney Summit | 14:40 |
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| tobberydberg | Would be good to set the goals for the upcoming release | 14:41 |
| zhipeng_ | I think one of the goals for us would be to come up with version 1.0 of a requirement report | 14:41 |
| tobberydberg | Reachable goals to get started | 14:41 |
| zhipeng_ | that documenting what we have done in Pike | 14:41 |
| zhipeng_ | what we achieved on closing the gaps | 14:41 |
| zhipeng_ | and what we thinks are still missing | 14:41 |
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| tobberydberg | so, end of this cycle, we summarize our work in a report? | 14:42 |
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| tobberydberg | ...with the goal of closing the gap, implementing missing features | 14:42 |
| zhipeng_ | yes that is what i think, basically paint a picture of what is a OpenStack public cloud | 14:43 |
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| zhipeng_ | what we have, what we are missing | 14:43 |
| tobberydberg | sounds like a good finish for this release | 14:43 |
| zhipeng_ | another thing is that maybe we could orgnise a public cloud wg meetup before Sydney Summit | 14:43 |
| tobberydberg | ...cycle | 14:43 |
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| zhipeng_ | Maybe have some photos, and provide something for the keynote :P | 14:44 |
| seanhandley | that's a great idea zhipeng_ | 14:44 |
| zhipeng_ | but this is just me thinking loud | 14:44 |
| tobberydberg | would ofcourse be awesome =) | 14:44 |
| tobberydberg | I wonder if we are able to do that until next summit | 14:44 |
| seanhandley | Even if it's just meeting up for the afternoon/evening and talking | 14:45 |
| zhipeng_ | there is linuxcon in Prague around Oct, we could piggyback on that event, if there is a consensus for the meetup | 14:45 |
| tobberydberg | yea, maybe | 14:45 |
| yankcrime | might be an opportunity to colo a public cloud wg meetup around one of the openstack days | 14:45 |
| zhipeng_ | ya that's also a choice | 14:45 |
| tobberydberg | or, piggyback on either OpenStack Days UK or Nordics? | 14:45 |
| yankcrime | yup | 14:45 |
| tobberydberg | hehe | 14:46 |
| zhipeng_ | i mean ops meetup has turn out to be a big event | 14:46 |
| tobberydberg | exactly | 14:46 |
| yankcrime | we've (as in organisers of days uk) have talked about trying to incorporate something along those lines before | 14:46 |
| tobberydberg | +1 to that idea! | 14:46 |
| yankcrime | i know the ansible chaps had a meetup within the eu ops meetup last year | 14:46 |
| zhipeng_ | yankcrime when will be the UK OpenStack Day ? | 14:46 |
| yankcrime | we won't be at the mexico city meetup sadly | 14:46 |
| yankcrime | 26th september zhipeng_ | 14:46 |
| tobberydberg | we won't either | 14:47 |
| zhipeng_ | Okey | 14:47 |
| zhipeng_ | we won't either | 14:47 |
| tobberydberg | Nordics is 20th and 21st of Oct....may be to close to Sydney | 14:47 |
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| tobberydberg | Maybe together with UK is better. For me it doesn't matter | 14:48 |
| tobberydberg | But, I'll put this up on the etherpad as suggestion | 14:48 |
| zhipeng_ | :) | 14:49 |
| yankcrime | i can look into making sure we have a room during the days uk event | 14:49 |
| tobberydberg | More? We have a couple of suggestions on the last etherpad as well | 14:49 |
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| tobberydberg | But, asking people to do that as homework until next meeting is good as well...coming up with goals suggestions | 14:50 |
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| zhipeng_ | yes | 14:50 |
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| tobberydberg | good yankcrime | 14:50 |
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| tobberydberg | We talked to flanders about a thing that I really liked... Coupons that are like "€100 of OpenStack" | 14:52 |
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| tobberydberg | that would work at any public OpenStack provider (that have signed up for it of course) | 14:52 |
| zhipeng_ | tobberyberg plz also check the nordic days arrangement | 14:53 |
| tobberydberg | more of a marketing thing, I know, but liked the idea | 14:53 |
| tobberydberg | zhipeng_: will do that for sure | 14:53 |
| seanhandley | that's pretty cool tobberydberg | 14:53 |
| seanhandley | worth following up | 14:53 |
| tobberydberg | Think so too. Could be for Summit in Germany if not before that | 14:54 |
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| seanhandley | We don't have a top up credit system but I'm sure we could just discount the total value from their bill | 14:55 |
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| tobberydberg | So, doing some homework regarding goals until next meeting, and then focus on voting for goals, and when that is set, asking the user committee for acceptance as an official group? | 14:56 |
| seanhandley | sounds good tobberydberg | 14:56 |
| seanhandley | Getting an idea of which features are the most important to us would be good | 14:56 |
| tobberydberg | Will be an implementation thing, or something that we all need to have to accomplish that | 14:56 |
| seanhandley | I was planning to just dive into self service sign up but there's no reason that ought to come first | 14:57 |
| tobberydberg | agree | 14:57 |
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| tobberydberg | of cource that is a little bit up to each company as well | 14:57 |
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| tobberydberg | but, to have a group prio would be nice | 14:58 |
| seanhandley | +1 | 14:58 |
| zhipeng_ | +1 | 14:58 |
| seanhandley | We're nearly out of time. That was a fast hour. | 14:58 |
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| zhipeng_ | we went through a lot of things :P | 14:58 |
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| tobberydberg | zhipeng_: if you adjust gap document, please make room for "group prio" column as well! | 14:59 |
| tobberydberg | very fast | 14:59 |
| zhipeng_ | got it :) | 14:59 |
| tobberydberg | thank you all for today! publiccloug-channel is always open for discussions =) | 14:59 |
| zhipeng_ | w000t! | 15:00 |
| seanhandley | #openstack-publiccloud | 15:00 |
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| seanhandley | Cheers everyone - speak more soon o/ | 15:00 |
| tobberydberg | see you all (and some more) in 2 weeks for some goals determination! | 15:00 |
| tobberydberg | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 24 15:00:32 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/publiccloud_wg/2017/publiccloud_wg.2017-05-24-14.05.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/publiccloud_wg/2017/publiccloud_wg.2017-05-24-14.05.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/publiccloud_wg/2017/publiccloud_wg.2017-05-24-14.05.log.html | 15:00 |
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| kornica | hi cbellucci ;-) | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | #startmeeting monasca | 15:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 24 15:01:29 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rhochmuth. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'monasca' | 15:01 |
| cbellucci | hi kornica! | 15:01 |
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| rbrndt__ | o/ | 15:01 |
| kornica | o/ | 15:01 |
| kamil | o/ | 15:01 |
| cbellucci | hi everyone :) | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | loops, a little late, was doing some email | 15:01 |
| haruki | o/ | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | o/ | 15:01 |
| witek | hello | 15:02 |
| shinya_kwbt | o/ | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-team-meeting-agenda | 15:02 |
| hosanai | o/ | 15:02 |
| koji | o/ | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | Agenda for Wednesday May 24 2017 (15:00 UTC) | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | 1.https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2001037 | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | 2.Review/Opinion needed | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | 1.https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+branch:master+topic:new_client | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | 2.https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+topic:story/2000995 | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | 3.InfluxDB patch upgrade [ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/459051/ + https://review.openstack.org/#/c/467482 ] | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | 4.Reevaulating stevedore ? | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | 5.Reviews ? | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | 6.Should we use 'project' and deprecate using 'tenant' term? | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | 1.Keystone uses 'project' (v2 which was using 'tenant' was deprecated in Mitaka) | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | 2.But other services use the terms exchangeably and not consistently, e.g. nova | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | 7.Change Monasca meeting time: | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | 1.Can we meet an hour earlier? | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | Lot's of topics today | 15:02 |
| witek | should we start with the last one? | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | Sure | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | That was mine | 15:03 |
| sc | hi | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | #topic Change Monasca meeting time: | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Change Monasca meeting time: (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:03 | |
| kamil | i am fine | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | So based on my meeting schedule and a request for a company that would like to be more involved in the meetings there was a request to move to one hour earlier | 15:03 |
| kamil | with meeting one hour earlier | 15:03 |
| kornica | I can adjust to majority, for me it is harder to jon the meetings anyway :/ | 15:03 |
| sc | suggest time? | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | WOuld that work for folks? | 15:04 |
| kornica | +1 | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | +1 | 15:04 |
| witek | I think US west coast is most affected | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | Do we have anyone attending from West Coast? | 15:04 |
| witek | +1 from me | 15:04 |
| sc | +1 (I read) | 15:04 |
| cbellucci | +1 | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | jgu: ? | 15:05 |
| shinya_kwbt | +1 | 15:05 |
| witek | we also have to check if there is an empty slot | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | yeah, that might be problematic | 15:05 |
| haruki | +1 | 15:05 |
| jgu | +1 | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | ok, i'll take a look and see if there is an open openstack-meeting slot | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | thanks jgu | 15:05 |
| kornica | publiccloud_wg is before monasca | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | are u west coast | 15:05 |
| jgu | rolland: yes I am west coast | 15:06 |
| jgu | 7am is fine | 15:06 |
| rhochmuth | the early developer gets the bug | 15:06 |
| witek | :) | 15:06 |
| jgu | lol | 15:06 |
| rhochmuth | ok, i'll look into it and try and send out to openstack-dev for next week | 15:07 |
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| rhochmuth | #topic https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2001037 | 15:08 |
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| kornica | ok, that's mine | 15:08 |
| kornica | detected today, really fresh | 15:08 |
| kornica | <rotfl> | 15:08 |
| witek | there is also another one, related: | 15:08 |
| kornica | apart from what's written in the story there's pretty nothing much more to add | 15:08 |
| witek | https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2001036 | 15:08 |
| kornica | oh..thx witek | 15:08 |
| kornica | yeah, but that one kind of duplicates, or the one I created duplicates yours | 15:09 |
| kornica | both comes from the very different APIs kafka-python library offers in different versions | 15:09 |
| witek | would it be enough to use the legacy SimpleClient? | 15:10 |
| kornica | well, I think it is used now | 15:10 |
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| kornica | PyCharm pointed that to me as deprecated | 15:10 |
| rbrndt__ | probably not, some basic philosophy changed in the newer versions | 15:10 |
| kornica | this is pretty much the same story as we had with psutil | 15:10 |
| rbrndt__ | it's a bit more complicated, but similar for sure | 15:11 |
| kornica | little complicated by the fact that monasca pipeline is baed on older kafka | 15:11 |
| kornica | *based | 15:11 |
| kornica | so we had to support both of 'em actually | 15:11 |
| kornica | *have | 15:11 |
| kornica | jesus...should've gone sleep earlier... | 15:11 |
| kornica | what's your take on this ? | 15:12 |
| rhochmuth | so, the upstream openstack requires the newer kafka library | 15:13 |
| rhochmuth | correct? | 15:13 |
| witek | right | 15:13 |
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| rhochmuth | From an official stand-point we should support the newer library, but not necessarily the old library | 15:14 |
| rhochmuth | but, simialr to psutil, we might want to support both | 15:14 |
| sc | is it possible to update pipeline? I think supporting both version is nightmare | 15:14 |
| witek | what about monitoring Monasca itself? | 15:14 |
| kornica | as I mentioned before monasca is based on kafka 0.9.x so we need to have older library support | 15:14 |
| kornica | otherwise we don't get metrics from monasca's topics | 15:15 |
| rhochmuth | didn't we copy everything into monasca-common and create our own fork | 15:15 |
| rbrndt__ | yes, so that we could avoid using the new library | 15:15 |
| kornica | we did, but I bet that it does not help for the core of the bug - newer library | 15:15 |
| rhochmuth | so, should the agent use monasca-common? | 15:16 |
| rhochmuth | does that help? | 15:17 |
| kornica | extracted code works with older kafka brokers | 15:17 |
| kornica | witek: can you take a look at priv from me ? | 15:17 |
| rhochmuth | i was hoping the older kafka worked with the newer brokers | 15:18 |
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| rhochmuth | maybe i don't understand the problem, but if we converted to kafka plugin to use monasca-common and the old kafka library works with the latest kafka broker, would that work? | 15:20 |
| witek | rhochmuth: I think we could give it a try and add monasca-common requirement to monasca-agent | 15:20 |
| rhochmuth | ok, that sounds reasonable | 15:20 |
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| witek | not very elegant though | 15:21 |
| rhochmuth | rbrndt__: u still there? | 15:21 |
| rbrndt__ | yeah | 15:21 |
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| rhochmuth | i thought you were testing the latest kafka broker | 15:21 |
| rbrndt__ | I found some claims online that the 0.9 client should be compatible with the 0.10 broker | 15:21 |
| rhochmuth | that is what i thought too | 15:21 |
| rbrndt__ | I have partially confirmed that they work together, while testing something else. But I didn't check in detail that everything was correct | 15:21 |
| rhochmuth | thx | 15:22 |
| kornica | we need just a chunk of funtionality to work to get offsets | 15:22 |
| kornica | hopefully that will work | 15:22 |
| kornica | guess we'll see in future once we get a slot to work with this bug | 15:22 |
| rhochmuth | #topic https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+topic:story/2000995 | 15:23 |
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| rhochmuth | moving on then | 15:23 |
| rhochmuth | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/461142/ | 15:23 |
| kornica | us, fujitsu, again... | 15:23 |
| rhochmuth | that is too much code to review for me | 15:23 |
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| kornica | was hard to lower it down | 15:24 |
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| kornica | but mostly that is deletion | 15:24 |
| kornica | *deleting | 15:24 |
| rhochmuth | the review looks great to me | 15:24 |
| rhochmuth | thanks for doing that | 15:24 |
| rhochmuth | a lot of code is removed | 15:24 |
| kornica | well, the osc-lib is the library that is meant for openstack clients | 15:25 |
| rhochmuth | i'll take a closer look, but based on comments, it looks like it is mostly ready to go | 15:25 |
| witek | all these changes are dependent, right? | 15:25 |
| kornica | tht topic story/2000995 provides unified handling of keystone communication | 15:26 |
| kornica | for client little more but that was neccessary and couldn't really be avoided | 15:26 |
| kornica | the topic new_client is follow up that puts dependent components on top of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/461142/ | 15:26 |
| kornica | I tried to make sure to connect all changes with Depends-On directive | 15:27 |
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| witek | right, we should try not to break devstack | 15:27 |
| rhochmuth | thanks kornica | 15:28 |
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| kornica | I can tell you that story/2000995 is the first one to go in, later we have intergration with newer client in agent and ui | 15:28 |
| kornica | aaah....one important note from using osc-lib | 15:29 |
| kornica | --timing (guess that's the flag) | 15:29 |
| kornica | try it out, you'll get a set of times it took to actually process the command, keystone calls, API calls | 15:29 |
| kornica | liked that so much I had to say it outloud :P | 15:29 |
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| kornica | guess there's even support for osprofiler that Witek mentioned was discussed in Boston | 15:30 |
| rhochmuth | nice | 15:30 |
| kornica | + all sorts of auth methods that keystone supports | 15:30 |
| rhochmuth | Should we move on? | 15:30 |
| kornica | yeah | 15:31 |
| rhochmuth | #topic https://review.openstack.org/#/c/459051/ | 15:31 |
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| kornica | let's skip topic new_client, we discussed that already | 15:31 |
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| rhochmuth | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/467482 | 15:31 |
| kornica | ahm, actually bump to 1.1.5 was a test to see if everything still works | 15:31 |
| kornica | I wanted to include Dirk's change first | 15:31 |
| rhochmuth | Oh, didn't realize that | 15:32 |
| rhochmuth | It is fine with me | 15:32 |
| rhochmuth | Dirk changed the port numbers | 15:32 |
| rhochmuth | you had asked a question about that | 15:32 |
| rhochmuth | but no response | 15:32 |
| rhochmuth | yet | 15:32 |
| kornica | yeah, he did but that's non-invasive, plus seems correct from the POV that previously client (an outsider so to speak) was talking with admin API of keystone | 15:32 |
| rhochmuth | Do you want that change merged anyway? | 15:32 |
| kornica | logically that seems a bit too much | 15:33 |
| kornica | and public API (under 5000) is sufficient | 15:33 |
| kornica | well, to be honest devstack/files/env.sh is a bit redundant in the way that is explictly exports OS_ variables | 15:33 |
| rhochmuth | So, we should merge Dirk's review | 15:33 |
| kornica | I'd say so | 15:33 |
| kornica | FYI: there's devstack/openrc file | 15:34 |
| rhochmuth | I just +1'd it | 15:34 |
| kornica | that exports more variables and it is died up to devstack based deployment | 15:34 |
| rhochmuth | if you want to merge that would be great | 15:34 |
| kornica | I'll take care of that | 15:34 |
| kornica | np | 15:34 |
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| kornica | one way or another 1.1.5 will be at the end of the process available in upstream | 15:34 |
| rhochmuth | sounds good to me | 15:35 |
| rhochmuth | btw, you had some reviews for influxdb relay | 15:35 |
| rhochmuth | or someone did | 15:35 |
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| rhochmuth | found it, so i see that one isn't ready yet | 15:35 |
| kornica | which review exactly | 15:36 |
| rhochmuth | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/465397/ | 15:36 |
| rhochmuth | Koji had submitted it | 15:36 |
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| kornica | ah that one - yeah, a bit similar to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/466272/ | 15:36 |
| kornica | the point is to have better, more readable dimensions to clasiffy influxdb or nodes | 15:37 |
| kornica | but in the Koji's change there's part of the code that is not unit-tested | 15:37 |
| rhochmuth | I +1'd https://review.openstack.org/#/c/466272/ | 15:37 |
| kornica | the extra arg | 15:37 |
| kornica | since coverage is already low, I think putting focus on unit-tests is good approach and leaving uncovered lines not such a great idea in the same time | 15:38 |
| witek | +1 | 15:38 |
| rhochmuth | +1 | 15:38 |
| rhochmuth | #topic Reevaulating stevedore ? | 15:38 |
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| rhochmuth | moving on again | 15:38 |
| kornica | I think Joe pointed to me that you've been having a discussion around stevedore | 15:39 |
| kornica | back in time, guess even before Fujitsu's joined monasca | 15:39 |
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| rhochmuth | i'm not aware of any discussions going now | 15:39 |
| kornica | well now not, might be longer time ago | 15:39 |
| rhochmuth | but yes, we had a difficult time with stevedore | 15:39 |
| kornica | hmm...that surprises me a lot | 15:39 |
| rhochmuth | so we used simport | 15:39 |
| kornica | I've been playing a lot with it recently and it much more flexible alternative providing some nice abstraction layer on the process of loading the checks | 15:40 |
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| kornica | + I see it prettty much everwyhere in openstack (at least where I look there's a stevedore) | 15:40 |
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| kornica | seemed like a nice idea to propose that for monasca notification | 15:41 |
| rhochmuth | it is more flexible, i agree | 15:41 |
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| rhochmuth | but, we had difficulties understanding what it was doing and where it was looking for modules to load, ... | 15:41 |
| rhochmuth | simport was straight-forward | 15:42 |
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| kornica | ahm...virtualenv, system but in general entry-points under namespace you're interested in | 15:42 |
| kornica | which is again pretty verbose | 15:43 |
| rhochmuth | so, i think the issue was just basic understanding of stevedore and how to use it correctly and avoid the side-effects | 15:43 |
| rhochmuth | yeah, in the early days of monasca development, we weren't using virtualenvs yet | 15:43 |
| rhochmuth | i think our python knowledge might have been a little weak in that area | 15:43 |
| kornica | it can get from system as well....system is actually one big virtualenv | 15:43 |
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| rhochmuth | so, is there a reason to more from simport to stevedore | 15:44 |
| rhochmuth | i'm just wondering what the motivation is | 15:44 |
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| rhochmuth | other than it would be nice to be more compatible | 15:44 |
| rhochmuth | and it provides more features, although i'm not sure what feature i would use | 15:45 |
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| kornica | just that, it was just a question - if monasca is happy with simport, there's no point in dragging this on | 15:45 |
| rhochmuth | i'm happy | 15:45 |
| rhochmuth | :-) | 15:46 |
| kornica | ahm, there are different types of loaders and so on - but really that's off the scope of a meeting | 15:46 |
| kornica | we can chat over mail if you're interested though ;-) | 15:46 |
| rhochmuth | #topic reviews | 15:46 |
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| rhochmuth | have we covered enough reviews? | 15:46 |
| rhochmuth | or are there others to look at | 15:46 |
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| kornica | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/467612/ | 15:47 |
| kornica | might be nice to mention what Dobek (my buddy) started to work on | 15:47 |
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| rhochmuth | ok, i'll look at that one too | 15:47 |
| rhochmuth | i was going to mention that silence, inhibit and group have been combined into three reviews | 15:48 |
| rhochmuth | one for api, notificatino and client | 15:48 |
| rhochmuth | but, we are in the process of changing things around a bit | 15:48 |
| rhochmuth | so, i would hold off another week | 15:48 |
| kornica | guess Artur's been most active for now from our side in abandoned reviews | 15:48 |
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| rhochmuth | #topic Should we use 'project' and deprecate using 'tenant' term? | 15:50 |
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| rhochmuth | my guess is that would break a lot of folks | 15:50 |
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| witek | that's mine, wanted to ask for your opinion on that | 15:50 |
| rhochmuth | well, we were in the process of adding MQL | 15:51 |
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| rhochmuth | which would have forced a v3 API | 15:51 |
| rhochmuth | if we did that, then i think we would be ok | 15:51 |
| kornica | witek: might be nice to add this review as reference | 15:51 |
| kornica | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/456228/ | 15:51 |
| kornica | *to mention | 15:51 |
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| witek | kornica: thanks | 15:52 |
| kornica | basically I am for depreacting tenant_id mainly because, I guess it was Mitaka, that depreacated keystone v2 which used term tenant | 15:52 |
| witek | as rhochmuth mentioned, we would have to move to new API version | 15:53 |
| rhochmuth | i guess i like the API to be consistent with itself | 15:53 |
| witek | +1 for consistency | 15:54 |
| kornica | I am really sure what consistency we have in mind :D | 15:54 |
| kornica | *not really sure | 15:54 |
| witek | naming consistency | 15:54 |
| rhochmuth | so, we have tenant everywhere in the monasca api | 15:54 |
| rhochmuth | so, if we start using project, then that is inconsistent | 15:55 |
| rhochmuth | although it is consistent with keystone | 15:55 |
| witek | :) | 15:55 |
| rhochmuth | i'm not sure what other projects have done | 15:55 |
| rhochmuth | like nova | 15:55 |
| witek | e.g. nova uses both term | 15:55 |
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| rhochmuth | but i thoguht use of tenant was still done | 15:55 |
| rhochmuth | ahhh, got it | 15:55 |
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| kornica | witek: but in the front of APIs (I mean, is it like tenant and project are mentioned are possible parameters you can send to nova over HTTP) | 15:56 |
| witek | yes | 15:56 |
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| kornica | well...that is...hmm...have no word :P | 15:56 |
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| rhochmuth | projant | 15:57 |
| kornica | ;p | 15:57 |
| rhochmuth | tenect | 15:57 |
| sc | ROTFL | 15:57 |
| kornica | maybe, let's go with | 15:57 |
| kornica | buddy, dude | 15:57 |
| kornica | seems like it fits | 15:57 |
| witek | https://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/compute/ | 15:57 |
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| witek | tenant:238 project:162 | 15:58 |
| kornica | witek, U gess tenant_id is mentioed once and that's response body | 15:59 |
| rhochmuth | i think we'll need to continue this discussion another time | 15:59 |
| kornica | np | 15:59 |
| rhochmuth | i'll look into another meeting time for next week | 15:59 |
| rhochmuth | bye everyone | 15:59 |
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| witek | bye | 16:00 |
| kornica | bye | 16:00 |
| rhochmuth | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 24 16:00:26 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2017/monasca.2017-05-24-15.01.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2017/monasca.2017-05-24-15.01.txt | 16:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2017/monasca.2017-05-24-15.01.log.html | 16:00 |
| kornica | cya | 16:00 |
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| eglute | #startmeeting interopwg | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 24 16:00:53 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is eglute. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'interopwg' | 16:00 |
| eglute | #topic agenda | 16:01 |
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| eglute | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropVertigo.1 | 16:01 |
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| eglute | Hello Everyone, please update/add to the agenda as needed | 16:01 |
| mrhillsman | o/ | 16:01 |
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| hogepodge | o/ | 16:01 |
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| * eglute waves | 16:02 | |
| luzC | o/ | 16:02 |
| mguiney | o/ | 16:02 |
| eglute | anyone else here for interop meeting on this fine day? | 16:02 |
| eglute | glad to see luzC back :) | 16:02 |
| mrhillsman | hey luzC! | 16:03 |
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| luzC | hey glad to be back :) | 16:03 |
| eglute | #topic 2017.08 Guideline | 16:03 |
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| eglute | thanks everyone that helped with scoring | 16:03 |
| eglute | keystone is the only outstanding patch left, | 16:03 |
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| eglute | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/456774/ | 16:04 |
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| eglute | thanks luzC and mguiney for working on it | 16:04 |
| luzC | I submitted a new patch a minute ago, it contain some changes to designated sections (to remove v2.0 api)... | 16:04 |
| luzC | had a couple of questions about the scoring | 16:05 |
| eglute | thank you luzC | 16:05 |
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| eglute | i see you added deprecated, but i think it also needs to be higher up | 16:05 |
| eglute | but i need to do a full review after the meeting | 16:06 |
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| luzC | I noticed several public clouds are using keystone v3 api but not sure if that includes the capability validate token... I assume it include it hence I mark it as widely deployed | 16:06 |
| eglute | it still didnt seem to raise the score high enough? | 16:07 |
| luzC | no yet | 16:07 |
| luzC | but for "play well with others" - "Discoverable"Â Capability being tested is Service Discoverable | 16:08 |
| luzC | I marked it as zero | 16:08 |
| eglute | good notes though, good to have it as part of scoring | 16:08 |
| luzC | since I didn't know how to verify that | 16:08 |
| zhipeng_ | o/ | 16:08 |
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| eglute | luzC there is api right | 16:09 |
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| luzC | eglute yes | 16:09 |
| eglute | then i think that means it is discoverable | 16:09 |
| eglute | hogepodge correct me if i am wrong | 16:10 |
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| eglute | #link: https://github.com/openstack/interop/blob/master/doc/source/process/CoreCriteria.rst#plays-well-with-others | 16:11 |
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| eglute | so if it can be found and is documented, i think it can be marked as 1 | 16:12 |
| luzC | if I changed that to 1 the score will change to 74* which I think is high, anyway we still need to wait for tempest test case available (mguiney thanks for the patch ) | 16:13 |
| eglute | yeah, if still no test, then we cannot add it | 16:13 |
| luzC | ok | 16:13 |
| eglute | but might be worth changing it, and noting that no test, therefore wont add | 16:14 |
| luzC | I'll add a note | 16:14 |
| eglute | thank you luzC! | 16:14 |
| eglute | anything else on keystone? | 16:14 |
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| eglute | for those that joined late, here is link to the agenda: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropVertigo.1 | 16:14 |
| eglute | #topic Add aliases for test_volumes_list | 16:14 |
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| eglute | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454844/ | 16:15 |
| eglute | this been in -1 workflow for a while | 16:15 |
| eglute | it seems important... | 16:17 |
| zhipeng_ | i've got another patch that also deals with the aliasing ... | 16:17 |
| eglute | zhipeng_ i think i have it on the agenda as well! is it same tests? | 16:17 |
| zhipeng_ | i think there are overlaps | 16:17 |
| zhipeng_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/462860/ | 16:18 |
| eglute | luzC thank you for reviewing this patch. any chance you could follow up with Ken'ichi Ohmichi on it? | 16:18 |
| zhipeng_ | mine was even bigger ... | 16:18 |
| eglute | zhipeng_ yes, i have it on the agenda for today :) | 16:18 |
| zhipeng_ | :) | 16:18 |
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| luzC | eglute yes | 16:19 |
| luzC | I'll | 16:19 |
| eglute | thank you luzC!! | 16:19 |
| eglute | #action luzC to follow up on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454844/ | 16:20 |
| eglute | #topic Create tools to increase ease of scoring | 16:20 |
| eglute | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/458716/ | 16:20 |
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| eglute | everyone, please review-- if no other comments, i will merge it this week | 16:20 |
| eglute | thank you mguiney :) | 16:21 |
| mguiney | thank you all for taking a look! | 16:22 |
| eglute | if no other comments on this patch, we can move forward :) | 16:22 |
| eglute | today is a patchy day :D | 16:23 |
| eglute | #topic Add Aliases For VolumeV2 Test Cases Part 1 | 16:23 |
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| eglute | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/462860/ | 16:23 |
| eglute | looks like this one has tests that would have multiple aliases? | 16:23 |
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| eglute | for a single tests? | 16:23 |
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| zhipeng_ | yes I think it has the same goal with the test-volume-list patch | 16:24 |
| zhipeng_ | or at least was brought up for the same reason | 16:24 |
| zhipeng_ | that tempest adopt cinder v3 test cases | 16:24 |
| zhipeng_ | the patch's purpose is to add aliases for the VolumeV2 test cases in the guideline | 16:25 |
| zhipeng_ | but one of the major problem here is that, in reply yo luzC's review comment | 16:25 |
| zhipeng_ | I found CI will report error if there is more than one alias | 16:25 |
| zhipeng_ | luzC pointed out that there are previous aliases that should be maintained | 16:26 |
| eglute | i think our schema doesnt allow for multiple aliases | 16:26 |
| zhipeng_ | yep | 16:26 |
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| zhipeng_ | so if luzC could contact Ken'ichi to see if my patch could be a superset of his previous one | 16:27 |
| zhipeng_ | then we could just work on this one | 16:27 |
| eglute | that would work! | 16:27 |
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| eglute | but i think we will still have issue of multiple aliases | 16:27 |
| eglute | we can change the schema, but then refstack needs to coordinate as well | 16:28 |
| zhipeng_ | and we need another patch to deal with all the volume-v3 related aliases | 16:28 |
| zhipeng_ | yes, my current proposal is to remove the old ones, since they are also V2 and could not be found | 16:28 |
| eglute | so, just to be clear- same test changed names multiple times? | 16:30 |
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| luzC | I didn't know about the schema, I guess we could remove the old aliases | 16:30 |
| eglute | i wonder if you should update the schame | 16:31 |
| eglute | schema | 16:31 |
| luzC | eglute yes, test cases changed names 2 times... | 16:31 |
| eglute | we need updated schema then. anybody interested in updating schema? | 16:31 |
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| luzC | eglute yes, I can take a look | 16:32 |
| eglute | luzC that would be great. | 16:32 |
| eglute | thank you! | 16:32 |
| eglute | also, can you coordinate with refstack? | 16:32 |
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| eglute | #action luzC to update schema and work with refstack on the change | 16:33 |
| * eglute very happy luzC is back | 16:33 | |
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| eglute | zhipengh[m] can you work with luzC and update the patch to contain two test names? | 16:35 |
| * kgarloff agrees with eglute :-) | 16:35 | |
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| Rockyg | good question | 16:36 |
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| eglute | any other comments on this patch? | 16:37 |
| zhipeng_ | sorry was disconnected ... | 16:37 |
| Rockyg | just repeat the request :) | 16:37 |
| eglute | zhipeng_ no worries | 16:37 |
| eglute | zhipeng_ can you work with luzC and update the patch to contain two test names? | 16:38 |
| zhipeng_ | eglute did we have a recommendation for the short term alias solution? | 16:38 |
| zhipeng_ | yes I will work with her :) | 16:38 |
| eglute | zhipeng_ i think it depends how quickly we can get schema updated. is this currently stopping you from certifying? | 16:39 |
| zhipeng_ | yes if we use the more updated tempest test suite | 16:39 |
| zhipeng_ | then we willl hit with error | 16:39 |
| eglute | how quickly do you need to certify? | 16:40 |
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| zhipeng_ | i think before Sep should be fine :) | 16:42 |
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| zhipeng_ | but like it to be done as fast as possible | 16:42 |
| eglute | zhipeng_ i think we can get this resolved before then for sure | 16:42 |
| eglute | i will work with luzC on the schema | 16:42 |
| zhipeng_ | coz I'm not sure if other companies got urgent need | 16:42 |
| zhipeng_ | great ! :) | 16:42 |
| kgarloff | zhipeng_: I think we do | 16:42 |
| luzC | :) | 16:43 |
| kgarloff | sitting on old 16.01 feels so bad :-( | 16:43 |
| eglute | anything else on this patch? | 16:43 |
| eglute | i agree, we need to update | 16:43 |
| eglute | and fast | 16:44 |
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| luzC | agree | 16:44 |
| eglute | ok, thank you luzC and zhipeng_ for your work on this patch! | 16:45 |
| eglute | #topic Remove test_delete_active_server | 16:45 |
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| eglute | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/463944/ | 16:45 |
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| eglute | looks like one of the tests is being removed, so json needs to be updated | 16:46 |
| eglute | if everyone could please review that patch, that would be great | 16:46 |
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| eglute | #topic Deprecate volume-v2/v3-attach-detach capability | 16:48 |
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| eglute | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/462811/ | 16:48 |
| zhipeng_ | i guess i'm waiting for matt to response to luzC's comment :) | 16:48 |
| eglute | zhipeng_ we can give him a few days :) | 16:49 |
| luzC | patch looks good to me, just wanted to pick Matt's brain look into future cinder direction | 16:49 |
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| kgarloff | eglute: This is the one where nova calls the cinder interface internally but the test tests for the direct accessibility? | 16:50 |
| eglute | luzC i agree, i think based on the discussion we can deprecate it | 16:50 |
| eglute | kgarloff: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/interop-wg/2017-April/000116.html | 16:50 |
| zhipeng_ | kgarloff yes | 16:50 |
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| eglute | any other comments on this patch? | 16:51 |
| kgarloff | +1 | 16:51 |
| eglute | i think once matt replies, it can go forward | 16:52 |
| smcginnis | I can comment. | 16:52 |
| eglute | thank you smcginnis | 16:52 |
| smcginnis | It is really an internal call between nova and cinder | 16:52 |
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| smcginnis | So it's not expected to be used by someone externally. | 16:52 |
| smcginnis | So really they never should have been included. | 16:52 |
| zhipeng_ | txh smcginnis | 16:53 |
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| eglute | smcginnis if you could also comment on the patch, that would be helpful :) | 16:53 |
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| smcginnis | eglute: Will do, thanks! | 16:53 |
| eglute | thanks smcginnis ! | 16:53 |
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| * kgarloff thanks smcginnis | 16:53 | |
| eglute | #topic Remove duplicated testcase test_get_private_image | 16:53 |
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| eglute | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454489/ | 16:53 |
| eglute | more removed tests | 16:54 |
| eglute | if everyone could review and comment, that would be helpful! | 16:54 |
| eglute | this one looks straightforward to me | 16:54 |
| eglute | any comments? | 16:55 |
| eglute | #topic Flagging Regarding Public Cloud Subnet | 16:55 |
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| eglute | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/460372/ | 16:55 |
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| eglute | any comments on this patch? only tests are being flagged, not capabilities | 16:57 |
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| eglute | that capability has a lot of tests, so i think this is a reasonable request | 16:58 |
| kgarloff | multiple subnets is unusual indeed | 16:58 |
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| zhipeng_ | :) | 16:58 |
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| hogepodge | kgarloff: it's necessary for mixing ipv4 and ipv6 apparently, which isn't unheard of | 17:00 |
| eglute | if everyone could comment on the patch, that would be helpful! | 17:00 |
| kgarloff | hogepodge: That sounds like a good reason | 17:00 |
| kgarloff | I was referring to multiple ipv4 subnets in one l2 net which cna be done, but is messy ... | 17:01 |
| eglute | might be that a test needs re-writing? | 17:01 |
| hogepodge | yeah, that doesn't make a lot of sense | 17:01 |
| mriedem | dansmith: | 17:01 |
| mriedem | ? | 17:01 |
| eglute | the name implies it only adds security groups to a port, which sounds like a good thing to test | 17:02 |
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| kgarloff | eglute: so we need the neutron tempest folks to clean up the test case to do what it suggests it does? | 17:03 |
| eglute | kgarloff perhaps | 17:03 |
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| eglute | i have not looked at the test itself | 17:04 |
| eglute | or we may need to find a new test that does what this one implies | 17:04 |
| eglute | kgarloff is this something you would have time to research? | 17:04 |
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| eglute | oh we are passed time | 17:04 |
| hogepodge | we're over time | 17:04 |
| eglute | i am so sorry everyone | 17:04 |
| eglute | thanks everyone!!! | 17:05 |
| eglute | #endmeeting | 17:05 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 24 17:05:03 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:05 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interopwg/2017/interopwg.2017-05-24-16.00.html | 17:05 |
| kgarloff | eglute: I'll have a look - no promises, sorrz | 17:05 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interopwg/2017/interopwg.2017-05-24-16.00.txt | 17:05 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interopwg/2017/interopwg.2017-05-24-16.00.log.html | 17:05 |
| eglute | thanks kgarloff let me know | 17:05 |
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| Rockyg | thanks all! file a bug against the tes? | 17:05 |
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| eglute | Rockyg yes, that might be an option! | 17:06 |
| Rockyg | name doesnt match funtion being tested? | 17:06 |
| eglute | lets move to #openstack-interop | 17:06 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: melwitt: still here? | 17:10 |
| mriedem | yes | 17:10 |
| melwitt | yep | 17:10 |
| mriedem | god finally | 17:10 |
| dansmith | #startmeeting nova_cells | 17:10 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 24 17:10:32 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dansmith. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:10 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova_cells)" | 17:10 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_cells' | 17:10 |
| dansmith | sorry, I got sucked into something | 17:10 |
| dansmith | #topic bugs/testing | 17:10 |
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| mriedem | i have an (old) bug | 17:11 |
| dansmith | once we get this patch in: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/458537 | 17:11 |
| dansmith | we will be able to merge the devstack patch and be testing on multicell all the time | 17:11 |
| dansmith | so just FYI | 17:11 |
| dansmith | mriedem: your bug, go | 17:11 |
| mriedem | crap too fast | 17:12 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/420461/2 | 17:12 |
| mriedem | is the newton backport of the fix for defaulting cell0 connection name to nova_cell0 rather than nova_api_cell0 | 17:12 |
| dansmith | aye, cool | 17:12 |
| mriedem | i know i tried this back when we realized it was a problem and fixed it in ocata, | 17:12 |
| mriedem | grenade job is failing, i'm not entirely sure why, but before i dig into this, | 17:12 |
| mriedem | i wanted to talk amongst friends if this is a good idea for stable/newton at this point | 17:13 |
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| mriedem | the reason i revived it is i think people are hitting this, | 17:13 |
| dansmith | it only affects peoplethat haven't been through the process yet so I think it's okay? | 17:13 |
| mriedem | they are doing this in newton and getting nova_api_cell0 and then that's going to cause issues when going to ocata, and we expect nova_cell0 | 17:13 |
| mriedem | dansmith: that was my justification as well | 17:13 |
| dansmith | wait | 17:14 |
| dansmith | I don't think that is an issue, | 17:14 |
| melwitt | meaning the ocata code looks for something named "nova_cell0" or? | 17:14 |
| mriedem | i thought either someone in irc or in ask.o.o hit issues with this b/c the db they created didn't match what simple_cell_setup created, and then nova-manage db sync failed | 17:14 |
| dansmith | because we look up cell0 in the database | 17:14 |
| mriedem | melwitt: no i don't think so explicitly | 17:14 |
| mriedem | but our docs say things like nova_cell0 | 17:14 |
| mriedem | or 'main cell db name plus _cell0' | 17:14 |
| mriedem | so i think people are creating a nova_cell0 db, | 17:15 |
| dansmith | yeah, just being consistent is good, | 17:15 |
| dansmith | but anyone that is set on newton is fine when they move to ocata I think | 17:15 |
| mriedem | running simple_cell_setup, which creates the wrong connection in the api db cell_mappings, | 17:15 |
| mriedem | run nova-manage db sync, and that fails | 17:15 |
| mriedem | ok so i can continue working on figuring out the grenade issue, | 17:15 |
| melwitt | agreed being consistent would be good | 17:15 |
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| mriedem | if i sit on the can long enough we'll drop grenade in newton b/c mitaka is eol | 17:15 |
| dansmith | heh | 17:16 |
| mriedem | but with tony out of a job that's not going away it seems | 17:16 |
| mriedem | maybe that's the answer to LTS, never hire tony | 17:16 |
| dansmith | hah | 17:16 |
| mriedem | but moving on | 17:16 |
| melwitt | fyi, the nova/context.py cache stuff merged to ocata and newton for the increased db connections bug | 17:16 |
| dansmith | any other bugs/testing things? | 17:16 |
| dansmith | cool | 17:16 |
| melwitt | the backports | 17:16 |
| dansmith | anything else? | 17:17 |
| mriedem | oh it's in newton now, | 17:18 |
| mriedem | that was why i needed to sort out this other thing, | 17:18 |
| mriedem | because the special db creds fix is dependent on this cell0 naming fix, | 17:18 |
| mriedem | and i wanted to get those out in the same stable release | 17:18 |
| mriedem | if possible | 17:18 |
| mriedem | but i spent all morning in customer support | 17:19 |
| mriedem | so i'll do it this afternoon | 17:19 |
| dansmith | moving on? | 17:19 |
| mriedem | yeah | 17:20 |
| dansmith | #topic open reviews | 17:20 |
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| dansmith | I have those open I linked above | 17:20 |
| dansmith | melwitt still has quotas stuff up | 17:20 |
| dansmith | mriedem: still some of the host api stuff remaining, right? | 17:20 |
| mriedem | i plan on getting back on the base quotas patch again | 17:20 |
| mriedem | yes, sec | 17:20 |
| melwitt | yeah, I pushed the update to address mriedem's comments on the first patch, last night | 17:20 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/461519/ first two there | 17:21 |
| mriedem | Vek has been on top of the rebases and +2s | 17:21 |
| mriedem | so i just need one of your two a-holes to +W tohse | 17:21 |
| mriedem | ha, | 17:21 |
| mriedem | *you two a-holes | 17:21 |
| mriedem | not your two | 17:21 |
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| dansmith | heh | 17:21 |
| mriedem | although that would be an interesting development | 17:21 |
| dansmith | mriedem: I have a tab open for those and will look when we're done here | 17:22 |
| mriedem | word to your mother | 17:23 |
| dansmith | anything else here? | 17:23 |
| mriedem | not from me | 17:23 |
| dansmith | #topic open discussion | 17:23 |
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| dansmith | I got nothing (that I haven't already mentioned) | 17:24 |
| mriedem | melwitt had a possible thing last night, | 17:24 |
| mriedem | about creating servers in a group in separate cells, | 17:24 |
| mriedem | maybe for anti-affinity, | 17:24 |
| mriedem | and then needing to iterate the cells to determine membership quota? | 17:24 |
| dansmith | well, like anything else we have to traverse cells for I would think | 17:25 |
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| melwitt | yeah, another way I thought of is if you created an instance in group A and then the cell it's in no longer has capacity, the second instance you boot into group A could go in another cell. point being, I just have to make sure the count for that goes across cells | 17:25 |
| dansmith | yeah | 17:26 |
| mriedem | my side thought on this, was it'd be good to know if we have any testing for this, | 17:26 |
| melwitt | I was getting confused yesterday bc I forgot server groups are in the API DB, so I was thinking "how can I get all the groups" but that's not an issue bc API DB. so disaster averted | 17:26 |
| mriedem | i think we could contain a test for this within nova functional | 17:26 |
| mriedem | stubbing out multiple cells | 17:26 |
| dansmith | melwitt: aye | 17:26 |
| melwitt | mriedem: that's probably possible, though I dread doing it | 17:27 |
| mriedem | i'm assuming we have some kind of filter we could use for an internal test to say a host is all used up once a single instance is on it | 17:27 |
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| mriedem | so create two cells, one host per cell, and a group with 2 instances | 17:27 |
| mriedem | but yeah, easier said than done | 17:27 |
| melwitt | hopefully it would be easy :P | 17:28 |
| dansmith | okay well, sounds like that's sorted, aside from tests | 17:28 |
| dansmith | anything else? | 17:29 |
| mriedem | nope | 17:29 |
| melwitt | nay | 17:29 |
| * dansmith waits for the nope to be seconded | 17:29 | |
| dansmith | woot | 17:29 |
| dansmith | #endmeeting | 17:29 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 24 17:29:50 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:29 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2017/nova_cells.2017-05-24-17.10.html | 17:29 |
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| robcresswell | #startmeeting horizon | 20:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 24 20:01:03 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is robcresswell. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 20:01 |
| robcresswell | o/ | 20:01 |
| gugl | o/ | 20:01 |
| ying_zuo | o/ | 20:01 |
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| vladiskuz | o/ | 20:01 |
| gary-smith | o/ | 20:01 |
| lucasxu | o/ | 20:01 |
| ducttape_ | o/ | 20:01 |
| jgravel | o/ | 20:01 |
| robcresswell | Hey everyone! | 20:02 |
| robcresswell | #topic Notices | 20:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Notices (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:02 | |
| robcresswell | Couple of quick announcements | 20:02 |
| robcresswell | I've put up patches to tag a stable release for both Newton and Ocata | 20:02 |
| robcresswell | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/467658/ | 20:02 |
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| robcresswell | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/467662/ | 20:02 |
| robcresswell | When those merge, the new versions of Horizon will be tagged and published. So please let your packagers/product teams know :) | 20:03 |
| robcresswell | The next announcement is just a reminder about the Pike-2 milestone, which is on the 8th of June | 20:04 |
| robcresswell | ~2 weeks. If you have big feature work you'd like merged in Pike, it really needs to be making good progress, with the first patches ideally merged before the second milestone. | 20:05 |
| robcresswell | We feature freeze a week early to let the plugins align, and FFE's are unlikely to be granted. | 20:05 |
| robcresswell | That's all from me for notices; any others before I move on to the agenda? | 20:06 |
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| robcresswell | #topic Overview Panel Improvements | 20:07 |
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| robcresswell | So, I've been working on an overview rewrite for a little bit; firstly to address performance issues by loading data async, but also to fill out the data gathered in those views a little. | 20:08 |
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| robcresswell | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450629/ | 20:08 |
| * robcresswell finds blueprint | 20:08 | |
| robcresswell | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/angular-overview | 20:09 |
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| robcresswell | It's still pretty rough right now, but if anyone has any ideas for information to show/APIs to use in the overviews, I'd really appreciate the input | 20:09 |
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| robcresswell | It would be great to get some deployer/operator input on the type of information that would be useful/expected in an overview page. | 20:09 |
| robcresswell | Otherwise it'll very much be me making a best guess :) | 20:10 |
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| robcresswell | Feel free to pull the patch down if you're interested in seeing the general direction I'm taking with it. It's a little buggy though. | 20:11 |
| robcresswell | Any thoughts/questions? | 20:11 |
| gugl | intend to rewrite all the overview page? | 20:11 |
| robcresswell | Yup | 20:12 |
| robcresswell | Project & Admin | 20:12 |
| robcresswell | #topic Open Discussion | 20:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:13 | |
| robcresswell | If anyone has any general questions, bugs, blueprints, feel free to raise them :) | 20:13 |
| jeremy_moffitt | for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/367629/ can we get a ruling on whether this is an appropriate change or not? (not right this second, but in general), there was some concern in one of the reviews that its too significant a change for the bug in question | 20:14 |
| ducttape_ | is the quota rework dying? seems like that plus the overview rework would be helpful | 20:14 |
| e0ne | robcresswell: hi. not a real question, but I would like to restore some abandoned patches which I'm going to finigh | 20:14 |
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| robcresswell | jeremy_moffitt: I think the original issue was around backporting it | 20:15 |
| e0ne | if cores are ok to get these patches merged https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/please-restore-abandoned-patches-to-horizon, please restore them. I'll rebase and update them | 20:15 |
| robcresswell | jeremy_moffitt: I'd like it fixed anyway, and backporting it can be solved separately. Maybe we won't end up backporting it. | 20:16 |
| jeremy_moffitt | not sure I understand that... do we need to be able to backport the change? | 20:16 |
| robcresswell | ducttape_: Well, everyone who volunteered to do quota work immediately left :) | 20:16 |
| robcresswell | ducttape_: I think amotoki has been doing some work | 20:16 |
| e0ne | :) | 20:16 |
| jeremy_moffitt | ah ok, sounds like maybe we're close to on the same page :) , think its stalled in the interim though since that concern was raised | 20:16 |
| * ducttape_ has a sad for quotas | 20:17 | |
| robcresswell | jeremy_moffitt: Yeah, I'd still like for it to get merged | 20:17 |
| robcresswell | Just needs someone to babysit it | 20:18 |
| e0ne | looks like quotas are painful in every project:( | 20:18 |
| robcresswell | e0ne: I'm not sure about a couple of those patches; I'll restore them, but I can't promise that I won't just -1 them in the future | 20:18 |
| jeremy_moffitt | separate issue, could use a review when time permits on either https://review.openstack.org/#/c/337936/ or https://review.openstack.org/#/c/303625/22 ... we'll rebase whichever one isnt the first merged off of the one that is first merged (butchered the heck out of that sentence but think it makes sense) | 20:18 |
| e0ne | robcresswell: sure. feel free -1/-2 on them | 20:18 |
| robcresswell | e0ne: It looks like one of them has been re-uploaded by Vladislav Kuzmin ? | 20:19 |
| ducttape_ | e0ne: quotas are extra painful in horizon. horizon is where all the rainbow unicorn quotas get together and show off how inconsistent quotas are | 20:19 |
| e0ne | robcresswell: he'll abandon a new one | 20:19 |
| e0ne | robcresswell: both me and my coleages want to get some fixes landed | 20:19 |
| robcresswell | e0ne: All restored | 20:20 |
| e0ne | robcresswell: we're ok with restoring current patches end refactor/re-wirte them if needed | 20:20 |
| e0ne | robcresswell: thanks a lot, Rob! | 20:20 |
| vladiskuz | robcresswell: yes, I'll close my re-uploaded patch | 20:20 |
| vladiskuz | Thanks Rob! | 20:20 |
| e0ne | ducttape_: it's a painful part of cinder too:( | 20:20 |
| robcresswell | I'll take a look again once they are moving. I don't like the sound of that horizon-memcached patch though; I'm reluctant to start mucking about with cache implementations. It tends to have weird side effects. | 20:21 |
| e0ne | robcresswell: +1 on caching issue | 20:21 |
| robcresswell | Quotas between nova/cinder are not so bad, but neutron only supports limits | 20:21 |
| robcresswell | Which is annoying. | 20:21 |
| * e0ne is not familiar with quotas in neutron | 20:22 | |
| robcresswell | e0ne: Basically, they exist, but the API only exposes limits (how many you can use) not how many you have currently used. | 20:22 |
| robcresswell | so to calculate that, you have to each individual resource, request all the pages of items for that resource, and then count it. | 20:23 |
| robcresswell | i.e. its stupid. | 20:23 |
| e0ne | :( | 20:23 |
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| robcresswell | To do that properly you're talking at least 8 API calls I think, and that assumes that all your resources fit on a single page :/ | 20:24 |
| robcresswell | ah well :) | 20:24 |
| e0ne | oh s... | 20:25 |
| e0ne | robcresswell: btw, feel free to ping me if you need something from Cinder's API | 20:25 |
| robcresswell | e0ne: That's good to know, thanks | 20:25 |
| ducttape_ | robcresswell - if you are spliting that stuff into their own tabs, maybe you could just graph what the apis are returning.... ui consistency be damned | 20:26 |
| robcresswell | ducttape_: In the current patch, I actually display the pie charts for nova and cinder and just a Limits table for Neutron | 20:26 |
| robcresswell | Because thats all the API gives. I think that may annoy ops though. | 20:27 |
| robcresswell | Working around it is hacky and very slow. | 20:27 |
| ducttape_ | works for me. then people can go complain to neutron to fix their api | 20:27 |
| robcresswell | \o/ | 20:27 |
| e0ne | ducttape_: it's a good plan, imo | 20:27 |
| ducttape_ | the ui need not cover the mistakes of the underlying services | 20:28 |
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| robcresswell | That's generally how I feel :) | 20:28 |
| e0ne | but users could not be happy if we drop neutron things from the overview page | 20:28 |
| robcresswell | e0ne: lol yup, welcome to Horizon | 20:28 |
| e0ne | :) | 20:28 |
| e0ne | robcresswell, ducttape_: sound like some misscommunication between API developers and consumers :( | 20:29 |
| robcresswell | I'll send out an email about it, I've been intending to | 20:30 |
| robcresswell | I've tried asking in the Neutron channel, but the only person who ever responds is amotoki, and he already works on Horizon :p | 20:31 |
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| e0ne | in any case, horizon should be for users, not for developers, IMO. that's why we have to fix our APIs for better UX if needed | 20:31 |
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| robcresswell | I think I'll roll with just the limits, and see what people say | 20:32 |
| robcresswell | Its a toggle either way, so people can use the old view if they choose. | 20:32 |
| robcresswell | Any other questions or discussion points? Anything is fair game :) | 20:33 |
| jeremy_moffitt | just the see above about some more theme changes that could use a look :) if you saw that nothing else here | 20:34 |
| robcresswell | jeremy_moffitt: Oh yeah, I missed those. Seen them now. They're on my list. | 20:35 |
| jeremy_moffitt | thanks! I probably should've waited till the quota discussion was over | 20:36 |
| robcresswell | Right, I think we can call it there. Thanks for attending! | 20:37 |
| robcresswell | #endmeeting | 20:37 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 24 20:37:27 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:37 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2017/horizon.2017-05-24-20.01.html | 20:37 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2017/horizon.2017-05-24-20.01.txt | 20:37 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2017/horizon.2017-05-24-20.01.log.html | 20:37 |
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| e0ne | thanks! see you next week | 20:38 |
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