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| tosky | #startmeeting sahara | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 18 14:00:37 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tosky. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sahara' | 14:00 |
| tosky | hi saharians | 14:00 |
| tosky | Telles is not around, but let's sync | 14:00 |
| vgridnev | hello | 14:01 |
| tosky | #topic News/Updates | 14:01 |
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| vgridnev | actually I don't have something to say but I doing several reviews and watching records from summit | 14:01 |
| tosky | I think I stabilized the jobs for generating the images with sahara-image-pack, now waiting on Telles to fix the reviews with the builders | 14:02 |
| tosky | anyone here who attended the Summit that can share some notes? | 14:02 |
| tosky | maybe esikachev :) | 14:04 |
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| esikachev | hi | 14:04 |
| * esikachev looking | 14:04 | |
| vgridnev | tosky, I seems like we have failures on general gates now; most probably issue is around new release of the nova client, but not sure | 14:05 |
| esikachev | I have a report from goals-session: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS-forum-Queens-Goals | 14:05 |
| tosky | vgridnev: oh, I didn't check, I will take a look | 14:05 |
| esikachev | and descriptions of points: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/community-goals | 14:05 |
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| tosky | esikachev: how did the presentation go? Did you have some discussions with other projects? | 14:06 |
| tosky | (I will reask the same to Telles when he is back) | 14:06 |
| esikachev | which presentation? | 14:06 |
| esikachev | about sahara? | 14:06 |
| shuyingya_m | Hi long time no see. nothing from my side. I am on a business travel for a month. Will contribute next month I think | 14:08 |
| esikachev | I think, that we have not huge updates from summit about sahara | 14:09 |
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| tosky | oh, ok | 14:09 |
| tosky | I remember that there were few presentations about Sahara for the user/operators, and on the other side few BigData-related presentations | 14:09 |
| tosky | shuyingy_: good to hear that you will be back! | 14:10 |
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| tosky | ok, so, if there no other news, I guess we can switch to open topics and maybe close if there is nothing else | 14:12 |
| tosky | #topic OpenDiscussion | 14:12 |
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| vgridnev | nothing else from me | 14:13 |
| esikachev | +1 | 14:14 |
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| tosky | for the record, the error is consistent in dsvm/tempest and scenario tests, with an exception in saharaclient | 14:14 |
| tosky | for example here: http://logs.openstack.org/04/465804/1/check/gate-sahara-dsvm-scenario-neutron-ubuntu-xenial/e8a5623/console.html | 14:14 |
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| tosky | the relevant part starts from File "/opt/stack/new/sahara-tests/.tox/venv/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/saharaclient/api/node_group_templates.py", line 76, in create | 14:16 |
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| tosky | so probably the first thing to check | 14:16 |
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| tosky | if there is nothing else, let's close and see next week what Telles reports | 14:17 |
| tosky | ... 1 minute | 14:17 |
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| tosky | #endmeeting | 14:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:19 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 18 14:19:37 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:19 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2017/sahara.2017-05-18-14.00.html | 14:19 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2017/sahara.2017-05-18-14.00.txt | 14:19 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2017/sahara.2017-05-18-14.00.log.html | 14:19 |
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| mlavalle | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 18 15:00:25 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3' | 15:00 |
| mlavalle | #chair haleyb | 15:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: haleyb mlavalle | 15:00 |
| haleyb | hi | 15:01 |
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| mlavalle | #topic Announcements | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:01 | |
| Swami | hi | 15:02 |
| mlavalle | Swami, haleyb hi | 15:02 |
| haleyb | the three amigos :) | 15:02 |
| mlavalle | yeah | 15:02 |
| mlavalle | #chair Swami | 15:02 |
| openstack | Current chairs: Swami haleyb mlavalle | 15:03 |
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| * haleyb wonders if anyone has seen that movie besides him | 15:04 | |
| mlavalle | Summit was last week, so next thing in the calendar is Pike-2, Jun 5-9 | 15:04 |
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| * mlavalle had a lot of fun watching it | 15:04 | |
| mlavalle | #link https://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html | 15:05 |
| mlavalle | Any other announcements? | 15:05 |
| haleyb | for the record, guess i should announce the merging of the DVR meeting into this one | 15:06 |
| Swami | mlavalle: can we also announce that we will consolidate dvr meeting. | 15:06 |
| Swami | haleyb: thanks | 15:06 |
| mlavalle | Great!!! | 15:06 |
| haleyb | will send an email to the dev list since others won't know | 15:06 |
| mlavalle | Yes, that's an great idea | 15:06 |
| mlavalle | a great^^^ | 15:07 |
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| haleyb | and will work on merging info from the DVR wiki to here, for now there is a link at the top of the etherpad | 15:07 |
| mlavalle | and maybe we should also update the infra repo where the meetings calendar is maintained | 15:07 |
| mlavalle | I can take care of that | 15:07 |
| mlavalle | #todo mlavalle to remove separate entry for DVR meeting from calendar | 15:08 |
| haleyb | Yes, that would release the time to someone else, maybe it's a good time for the drivers meeting :) | 15:08 |
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| mlavalle | That's true | 15:08 |
| Swami | don't we have a separate slot for drivers meeting | 15:09 |
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| mlavalle | yeah, but the drivers have been looking to move it | 15:09 |
| Swami | mlavalle: ok | 15:10 |
| haleyb | Swami: yes, it's just late EST. i know they had tried to move before | 15:10 |
| mlavalle | some team members have trouble with current slot | 15:10 |
| haleyb | i'd go if it wasn't 6pm EST | 15:10 |
| mlavalle | Ihar also has an issue with the current day / time | 15:11 |
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| mlavalle | ok, moving on | 15:11 |
| haleyb | One other announcement is that I added two charter sections to the etherpad for Pike and Queens, based on our discussion last week | 15:11 |
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| mlavalle | thanks haleyb | 15:12 |
| mlavalle | #topic Bugs | 15:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:12 | |
| mlavalle | I'll let Swami, haleyb start with the DVR list | 15:12 |
| Swami | mlavalle: thanks | 15:13 |
| Swami | There was one bug that was filed last week. #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1691427 | 15:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1691427 in neutron "AttributeError: 'DvrLocalRouter' object has no attribute 'ha_state'" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Brian Haley (brian-haley) | 15:14 |
| Swami | There is already a patch in place for review. | 15:14 |
| haleyb | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/465740/ | 15:14 |
| haleyb | just updated this morning | 15:14 |
| Swami | haleyb: thanks | 15:14 |
| Swami | Seems to be a simple fix. | 15:15 |
| haleyb | yes, strange noone has seen that before | 15:15 |
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| mlavalle | yeah, I'm surprised | 15:15 |
| Swami | The next one in the list is #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1682345 | 15:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1682345 in neutron "neutron metering agent does not work in DVR mode" [Undecided,Confirmed] - Assigned to Dongcan Ye (hellochosen) | 15:16 |
| Swami | haleyb and I had a discussion about this bug a while back, but I have not started work on it yet. | 15:17 |
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| Swami | I will start work on it once, I finish the allowed_address_pair patch. | 15:17 |
| haleyb | Swami: will Dongcan do it? | 15:17 |
| haleyb | although it's been a few weeks | 15:17 |
| Swami | haleyb: sure if he has a patch he can push it. | 15:18 |
| haleyb | i'll ping in bug | 15:19 |
| Swami | ok | 15:19 |
| Swami | The next one in the list is #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1672345 | 15:19 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1672345 in neutron "Loadbalancer V2 ports are not serviced by DVR" [Undecided,New] | 15:19 |
| Swami | But this one is related to the allowed_address_pair and so will focus on the patches. | 15:20 |
| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/437970/ | 15:21 |
| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/437986/ | 15:21 |
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| Swami | Oleg has posted some more comments on these patches. I will address it and rebase these patches. | 15:21 |
| Swami | Let us target it for Pike2. | 15:21 |
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| Swami | The next bug in the list is #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1682228 | 15:23 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1682228 in neutron "can't cross address scopes with DVR " [Undecided,New] | 15:23 |
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| Swami | I am not sure about this bug. I have added a comment in the bug, but if you guys have some input on it, feel free to add it to the bug info. | 15:23 |
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| haleyb | Swami: that was based on a previous behavior before your recent address scope patch, right? | 15:24 |
| Swami | Yes | 15:25 |
| haleyb | So it might be we can update the note that was added about it | 15:25 |
| Swami | haleyb: that's what I thought, with the fast path exit patch merged, this should be invalid and we should close it. | 15:26 |
| Swami | But let us wait for Kevin's input on it. He was the one who created it. | 15:26 |
| haleyb | ok | 15:26 |
| Swami | Ok, that's all I had for the DVR bugs. | 15:26 |
| Swami | mlavalle: back to you. | 15:26 |
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| mlavalle | Swami: thanks | 15:26 |
| mlavalle | first one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1610483 | 15:27 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1610483 in neutron "Pluggable IPAM rollback mechanism is not robust" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Aliaksandr Dziarkach (aliaksandr-dziarkach) | 15:27 |
| mlavalle | haleyb and I discussed this one with kevinbenton during Summit. We agreed that given the complexities of implementing this, we are going to remove the rollback mechanism from the IPAM API | 15:28 |
| mlavalle | The idea is that we don't want to mislead 3rd party IPAM developers with a rollback mechanism that doesn't exist | 15:29 |
| mlavalle | Next one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1684682 | 15:30 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1684682 in neutron "DHCP namespace doesn't have IPv6 default route" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Brian Haley (brian-haley) | 15:30 |
| haleyb | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/461887/ is happy today :) | 15:31 |
| mlavalle | great, will review soon | 15:31 |
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| mlavalle | it's in my pile now | 15:32 |
| haleyb | cool, thanks mlavalle | 15:32 |
| Swami | haleyb: will take a look at it | 15:33 |
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| mlavalle | Next one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1655567 | 15:34 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1655567 in neutron "DHCPv6 failures with "address already allocated in subnet" error" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel) | 15:34 |
| haleyb | i think there was a duplicate filed the other day as well | 15:34 |
| mlavalle | yeah, ihrachys filed it | 15:34 |
| mlavalle | I already reviewed his filing and marked it duplicate | 15:34 |
| mlavalle | It's not happening a lot | 15:35 |
| mlavalle | only once ocurrence over past 7 days | 15:35 |
| mlavalle | all the cases I've seen happen when creating an IPv6 subnet | 15:35 |
| mlavalle | it's different test cases within the same tempest script, but they all have in common the subnet creation | 15:36 |
| mlavalle | I'll be digging deeper today | 15:36 |
| mlavalle | Last one today is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1683227 | 15:37 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1683227 in neutron "test_connection_from_same_address_scope failed with: Cannot find device "qg-74372988-7f"" [High,Confirmed] | 15:37 |
| mlavalle | No owner yet | 15:37 |
| mlavalle | volunteers are welcome to take a look at it | 15:37 |
| mlavalle | if nobody comes along, I'll tackle it when I am done with the previous one | 15:38 |
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| Swami | mlavalle: interesting. | 15:38 |
| mlavalle | Swami: you want it :-) ? | 15:39 |
| Swami | mlavalle: I have enough on my plate right now. | 15:39 |
| mlavalle | :-) doean't hurt to ask | 15:40 |
| Swami | mlavalle: no worries | 15:40 |
| mlavalle | Any other bugs we should discuss today? | 15:40 |
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| Swami | I don't have anything else. | 15:40 |
| mlavalle | Swami: I added you as chair. I'll let you drive with topics in the DVR agenda | 15:41 |
| Swami | ok, no problem. | 15:41 |
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| Swami | mlavalle: At this point I don't have any specific items to discuss for the DVR agenda. The highest priority is the merge the allowed_address_pair patch for Pike2. | 15:45 |
| mlavalle | Thanks | 15:45 |
| Swami | mlavalle: once we finish that, then I can move on to the config option for floatingip. | 15:45 |
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| mlavalle | #topic Routed Networks | 15:46 |
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| mlavalle | The only thing I want to say here is that I am starting to work on the spec | 15:47 |
| mlavalle | I will push soon | 15:47 |
| mlavalle | #topic Open Agenda | 15:47 |
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| mlavalle | Any other topics we should discuss today | 15:47 |
| mlavalle | ? | 15:48 |
| Swami | mlavalle: I will review the spec once you push it in. | 15:48 |
| haleyb | not from me | 15:48 |
| mlavalle | ok, guys, see you in channel and in gerrit. enjoy the rest of the week | 15:49 |
| Swami | I don't have any other topics to discuss. | 15:49 |
| Swami | see you guys | 15:49 |
| mlavalle | #endmeeting | 15:49 |
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| Swami | bye | 15:49 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 18 15:49:17 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:49 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2017/neutron_l3.2017-05-18-15.00.html | 15:49 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2017/neutron_l3.2017-05-18-15.00.txt | 15:49 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2017/neutron_l3.2017-05-18-15.00.log.html | 15:49 |
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| cdent | #startmeeting api-wg | 15:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 18 15:59:58 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cdent. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: api-wg)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'api_wg' | 16:00 |
| cdent | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/API-WG#Agenda | 16:00 |
| dtantsur | o/ | 16:00 |
| elmiko | hi | 16:00 |
| cdent | who is here for the api-wg meeting? | 16:00 |
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| cdent | mtreinish you said you wanted a ping, so here it is | 16:00 |
| cdent | #topic previous meeting action items | 16:00 |
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| cdent | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2017/ | 16:01 |
| cdent | #link minutes from last http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2017/api_wg.2017-05-04-16.00.html | 16:01 |
| cdent | there were no action items, some of us went to a summit | 16:02 |
| cdent | edleafe are you listening in from your airport? | 16:02 |
| cdent | #topic open mic and new biz | 16:02 |
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| cdent | #link discovery https://review.openstack.org/#/c/459405/7 | 16:02 |
| cdent | mordred has a large collection of fairly complex documents describing how to use the service catalog, do version discovery and attend to the concept of aliases in the service types authority | 16:03 |
| cdent | anyone who hasn't had a chance to look at that stuff yet should set aside some time and a beverage and give it a good read | 16:03 |
| elmiko | yeah, looks cool, but i need to devote some time for a serious read | 16:03 |
| dtantsur | it's so big I cannot force myself into reading it properly.. | 16:04 |
| dtantsur | yeah, this | 16:04 |
| cdent | it sets out some good ideas and places a lot of stuff in context that might be missing people in the past | 16:04 |
| cdent | it also represents a slight change of focus from the old standbys of api-wg guidelines, towards also specifying how clients ought to behave in certain circumstances | 16:04 |
| cdent | at summit this was declared a GoodThing™ | 16:05 |
| cdent | which segues nicely to: | 16:05 |
| cdent | #link BOF etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS-API-WG-BOF | 16:05 |
| cdent | that's the etherpad from the BOF, which records some of the feedback we got there | 16:05 |
| cdent | I thought it was a good session, would you agree elmiko ? | 16:06 |
| elmiko | definitely! | 16:06 |
| elmiko | great number of people showed up and good participation | 16:06 |
| elmiko | much different than the last api-wg bof we had | 16:06 |
| cdent | indeed | 16:06 |
| elmiko | i liked seeing some new faces too | 16:07 |
| cdent | indeed to that too | 16:07 |
| cdent | I haven't fully digested that etherpad to extract any actions, have you? | 16:07 |
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| elmiko | not really | 16:08 |
| cdent | (other than the action asettle made | 16:08 |
| cdent | which is to get more links to api-wg guidelines from docs | 16:08 |
| cdent | and a need to enhance visibility | 16:08 |
| cdent | I came away with a bit of "keep up the good work" kind of feeling, which was great | 16:09 |
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| elmiko | we get a lot of that though | 16:09 |
| elmiko | i think one thing we should focus on is getting the link to the specs into more doc locations | 16:09 |
| cdent | yes | 16:09 |
| elmiko | i'm not sure what exactly we need to do, aside from open PRs on the doc repos, but well, yeah.. | 16:10 |
| asettle | cdent: heh what? | 16:10 |
| asettle | Oh right | 16:10 |
| asettle | Api | 16:10 |
| asettle | Guidelines | 16:10 |
| asettle | Yes | 16:10 |
| asettle | Lemme write that down | 16:10 |
| * elmiko waves at asettle | 16:10 | |
| elmiko | hehe | 16:10 |
| asettle | Hey elmiko ! | 16:10 |
| asettle | Awkward timing, docs meeting now too | 16:10 |
| dtantsur | I wonder if there is something that project-specific api-ref's can add | 16:10 |
| asettle | Do you guys have any informal stuff written down? | 16:10 |
| elmiko | ouch, just our luck | 16:10 |
| cdent | and I suspect we can do more to make the existing guidelines fresh and visible (probably by re-reviewing them periodically) | 16:10 |
| dtantsur | like, links to API versioning.. | 16:10 |
| elmiko | asettle: not yet | 16:10 |
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| cdent | dtantsur: there was talk of that: getting api-ref to have links to guidelines | 16:11 |
| elmiko | that seems much longer tail to me | 16:11 |
| elmiko | in the short term, we could get more visibility into the developer.openstack.org stuff | 16:11 |
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| asettle | elmiko: might be good to have something ... just some notes? | 16:12 |
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| cdent | asettle: when you said "informal stuff written down" what kind of stuff did you mean? | 16:13 |
| cdent | the only notes we've got from summit is the etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS-API-WG-BOF | 16:13 |
| elmiko | yeah, i guess that's about as informal as it gets | 16:14 |
| elmiko | aside from a beer soaked napkin with scrawl on it i suppose XD | 16:14 |
| cdent | can we enumerate any actions or shall we take reading monty's novels as our next big step and wait and see otherwise? | 16:15 |
| asettle | cdent: sorry, I'm half in and half out. Hhaha I mean any informal notes on the actual guidelines. | 16:15 |
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| asettle | Or official stuff, whatever you've got, really. A basis for us to begin forming the guidelines to link to the docs stuff | 16:15 |
| elmiko | i'm +1 for reading monty's stuff as an action for next week | 16:15 |
| elmiko | i really can't load much more than that, saly | 16:16 |
| elmiko | sadly... | 16:16 |
| cdent | asettle: so the guidelines live here: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/api-wg/ | 16:16 |
| cdent | there's no continuity between then, which I kind of think is something that could be improved | 16:16 |
| elmiko | that's a nice idea | 16:17 |
| asettle | cdent: ah thats the link I was missing. | 16:17 |
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| asettle | cdent: let me take a look at this post-doc meeting :) | 16:17 |
| asettle | Sorry to be a bit scattered | 16:17 |
| * edleafe forgot about the api-wg meeting | 16:17 | |
| cdent | asettle++ | 16:17 |
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| edleafe | much more interesting than CNN on the airport TV | 16:18 |
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| elmiko | edleafe++ | 16:18 |
| cdent | any other new business? | 16:19 |
| cdent | okay moving on | 16:20 |
| cdent | #topic guidelines | 16:21 |
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| cdent | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/api-wg,n,z | 16:21 |
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| cdent | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/446138/ needs more votes from those us currently here | 16:21 |
| cdent | before it is freezeworthy | 16:21 |
| elmiko | yeah, was just thinking that | 16:22 |
| elmiko | i'll have a read now | 16:22 |
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| cdent | while that's happening I'll bump us ahead to bug review to say: | 16:23 |
| cdent | there are no new bugs | 16:23 |
| elmiko | that guideline look sensible to me | 16:24 |
| elmiko | the date thing raised an eyebrow for me, but given that it's useful and optional i don't see an issue | 16:24 |
| cdent | dtantsur: you had a chance to think more about that one? | 16:25 |
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| cdent | stranger danger! | 16:25 |
| elmiko | LOL | 16:26 |
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| dtantsur | cdent: nope, I'll check it again | 16:26 |
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| cdent | cool, thanks | 16:26 |
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| cdent | we seem to have breezed through this meeting rather quickly. elmiko are you feeling overwhelming urges to do the newsletter or shall I? | 16:27 |
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| elmiko | cdent: please, don't let me stop you D | 16:28 |
| elmiko | XD | 16:28 |
| cdent | mmmkay | 16:28 |
| elmiko | can't believe that worked! | 16:28 |
| * cdent shrugs | 16:29 | |
| elmiko | hehe | 16:29 |
| cdent | I'm a pushover or something | 16:29 |
| elmiko | no way... | 16:29 |
| cdent | Shall we end it then, and I'll ping for a proof? | 16:29 |
| cdent | Any last words from anyone? | 16:29 |
| elmiko | sounds good | 16:29 |
| mordred | ugh. /me keeps missing the start of this meeting | 16:29 |
| elmiko | we've got time mordred, if you want to raise an issue =) | 16:30 |
| cdent | mordred: no worries you're already giving us enough work | 16:30 |
| elmiko | oh wait | 16:30 |
| mordred | looks like y'all talked about me already :) | 16:30 |
| dtantsur | mordred: we liked your writing so much that we decided that you'll be writing all our specs from now on | 16:30 |
| elmiko | #action everyone read mordred's specs before next meeting | 16:30 |
| cdent | spec boy! | 16:30 |
| elmiko | LOL | 16:30 |
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| elmiko | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/api-wg+owner:mordred+status:open | 16:32 |
| cdent | if nothing else, I'm calling it | 16:34 |
| cdent | one | 16:34 |
| cdent | two | 16:34 |
| cdent | three | 16:34 |
| cdent | #endmeeting | 16:34 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 18 16:34:14 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:34 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2017/api_wg.2017-05-18-15.59.html | 16:34 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2017/api_wg.2017-05-18-15.59.txt | 16:34 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2017/api_wg.2017-05-18-15.59.log.html | 16:34 |
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| elmiko | thanks cdent ! | 16:35 |
| cdent | _always_ a pleasure | 16:35 |
| elmiko | likewise =) | 16:36 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: tbachman: hi | 18:02 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: hi! | 18:02 |
| rkukura | hi | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | was wondering if annak was planning to join | 18:02 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #startmeeting networking_policy | 18:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 18 18:03:28 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SumitNaiksatam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:03 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_policy' | 18:03 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #info agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/GroupBasedPolicy#May_18th_2017 | 18:04 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | perhaps we can switch the order of the agenda | 18:04 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | ah there is annak, right on cue :-) | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | annak: hi | 18:05 |
| annak | hi, sorry i'm a bit late | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Ocata sync | 18:05 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | annak: np | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:ocata_sync | 18:06 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | annak: sorry to put you on the spot right away, hope you had a chance to catch you breath! | 18:06 |
| annak | SumitNaiksatam: np :) | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | you posted a flurry of patches :-) | 18:06 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | do you want to post a quick summary to update the team on what you are doing? | 18:07 |
| annak | sure | 18:07 |
| annak | i thought it would be helpful to estimate the ocata sync effort, and i tried to separate fixes that can be isolated from ocata (meaning - won't brake master) | 18:08 |
| annak | these are the non-WIP ones | 18:09 |
| rkukura | good idea | 18:09 |
| annak | one has to do with removal of PLURALS from neutron. I feel like a bigger refactoring might be in place there, I think it the long run we are not supposed to import neutron directly | 18:10 |
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| annak | but I'm not sure if its a good time for big changes (and I don't understand the kitchen well enough yet..) | 18:10 |
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| annak | regadring the ocata sync patch - dependant repositories need to be updated as well and are currently blocking progress there | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | annak: yes, dont worry about the dependent repos, those will be take care off | 18:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | *taken | 18:12 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | to be fair to the patches which have already been posted, i thought we should try to get some of them merged first | 18:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | before we process the ocata sync patches | 18:14 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | does everyone agree? | 18:15 |
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| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: sounds reasonable | 18:15 |
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| tbachman | but am fine either way | 18:15 |
| annak_ | sorry the wifi is not stable :/ | 18:15 |
| annak_ | i probably lost a couple of messages | 18:15 |
| SumitNaiksatam | annak: np, i was just asking - “to be fair to the patches which have already been posted, i thought we should try to get some of them merged first, before we process the ocata sync patches, does everyone agree?” | 18:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | annak: what we discussed over emails | 18:16 |
| rkukura | is there any reason to delay the smaller patches, and should these get back-ported to stable/newton as well? | 18:16 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i am afraid we havent had enough reviews | 18:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | since most of us dealing with the ipv6 stuff and some of the other aim driver related stuff | 18:17 |
| rkukura | I think keeping master and stable/newton in sync as long as possible is helpful | 18:17 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: yeah | 18:17 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | regarding backport, i think annak_ would know | 18:17 |
| rkukura | if these don’t break master right now, I’d think they wouldn’t break stable/newton either, since master is based on Neutron stable/newton | 18:18 |
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| annak_ | no, they shouldn't break newton, since these are based on same libs | 18:19 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: annak_: makes sense | 18:19 |
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| annak_ | so i'll backport them once they get approved on master | 18:20 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | annak_: okay | 18:22 |
| rkukura | thanks | 18:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | annak_: i havent had a chance to look into the patches in detail | 18:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so i dont have any questions right now | 18:22 |
| annak_ | ok, np | 18:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | anyone anyone else have questions? | 18:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | annak_: thanks so much for taking this on! | 18:23 |
| annak_ | SumitNaiksatam: np :) | 18:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | our favorite topic | 18:23 |
| tbachman | :) | 18:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic IP v4, v6 dual-stack support | 18:24 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://review.openstack.org/458583 | 18:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | thats the spec | 18:24 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/459823/ | 18:24 |
| * tbachman just pushed his update | 18:24 | |
| tbachman | I believe I’ve addressed the most recent feedback | 18:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: thanks for all the hard work on this | 18:25 |
| tbachman | that said, it would be great if folks could have another look | 18:25 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: np! | 18:25 |
| tbachman | thanks to all those who’ve reviewed it! | 18:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: so you think the spec is pretty much done now? | 18:25 |
| tbachman | it would be nice to get feedback from some of the services folks | 18:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | (perhaps without the external segment changes) | 18:25 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: ack | 18:25 |
| tbachman | I still have to add that | 18:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: right, but dont see songole here | 18:26 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: ack | 18:26 |
| tbachman | The only other thing I could think of is that they might want to add an ip_version field | 18:26 |
| tbachman | so that it would be included in the l3_policy creation | 18:26 |
| tbachman | to support dual-stack | 18:26 |
| tbachman | but at the moment, the changes shouldn’t break any of their stuff | 18:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: ah you mean, the services folks would need to set the ip_version appropriately from the NFP/NCP code | 18:27 |
| tbachman | right | 18:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: got it | 18:28 |
| tbachman | at the moment, it’s just using the default | 18:28 |
| tbachman | and will continue to do so | 18:28 |
| tbachman | they could add this to their config later if they wanted | 18:28 |
| tbachman | and the workflow should be the same | 18:28 |
| tbachman | (same as implicit L3P workflow) | 18:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yeah, was just saying going to say that, so for now the dual stack support is not available with NCP/NFP | 18:29 |
| * tbachman promises to use more specific words than “implicit” from now on :( | 18:29 | |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: ack | 18:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: good thing to point out about the services’ integration | 18:29 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: the other question we had for you was the changes needed to the resource_mapping driver | 18:30 |
| tbachman | ah, right | 18:30 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | do you have a feel for what remains after your patch? | 18:30 |
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| tbachman | My thinking is that we should approve the spec, approve my current AIM patch, and then work on refactoring with the RMD | 18:30 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: somewhat | 18:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: yeah | 18:31 |
| tbachman | I think I could describe it from a high-level perspective | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i agree with that plan | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: sure | 18:31 |
| rkukura | +1 | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | go ahead | 18:31 |
| tbachman | The RMD needs to move to using the subnetpools and address scopes | 18:31 |
| tbachman | basically move a lot of the stuff out of the mapping driver and into the RMD | 18:31 |
| tbachman | There are some AIM specific things that won’t go over though | 18:32 |
| tbachman | like our mappings with VRFs etc. | 18:32 |
| tbachman | some checks that won’t be needed | 18:32 |
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| tbachman | and if I remember correctly, there are some simplifications for the RMD (e.g. it can only be connected to a single ES, if my memory serves me well) | 18:32 |
| tbachman | but certainly the AIM mapping code could be used to crib from | 18:33 |
| tbachman | for the RMD changes | 18:33 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: does that help? | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: yes, thanks | 18:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: if i recall, the implementation for the subnet allocation from the subnetpool is already in the resource_mapping module | 18:34 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: correct | 18:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | however the resource_mapping driver is not making use of it | 18:34 |
| tbachman | correct again | 18:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | okay, thanks for confirming that, so that would be a matter of switching to using it, and testing | 18:35 |
| * tbachman notes that he stands on the shoulders of those who created the RMD code :) | 18:35 | |
| annak_ | I can try to take this task if it helps | 18:35 |
| tbachman | :) | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | annak_: thanks, sure | 18:35 |
| tbachman | annak_: a one-person coding army :) | 18:35 |
| tbachman | annak_: thx! | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | annak_: so as we were discussing offline, this more of a matter of testing | 18:35 |
| annak_ | is the current coverage good enough or do we need to add more? | 18:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | annak_: i wasnt sure about that part, hence I had not done the switch until now :-) | 18:36 |
| tbachman | annak_: there are UTs in the AIM driver that we’ll probably want to move to the RMD UTs | 18:37 |
| annak_ | ok :) | 18:37 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: right | 18:37 |
| tbachman | some of that may be a bit of work, as I doubt it will just drop in | 18:37 |
| SumitNaiksatam | annak_: as tbachman points out, when i did the subnetpool/address_scope stuff i put UTs in the aim_driver to test this | 18:37 |
| tbachman | it might be best to leverage the infra from those UTs | 18:37 |
| tbachman | (those being RMD, and not AIM) | 18:37 |
| annak_ | ok, I'll start looking at all that | 18:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | my plan was to move them over or replicate | 18:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | but didnt get to it | 18:38 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | annak_: thanks, and we can keep discussing this offline, so that you can make smooth progress | 18:39 |
| annak_ | SumitNaiksatam: yes, that would help, thx | 18:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: anyhthinng to discuss on the implementation patch? | 18:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/459823/ | 18:40 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: not that I can think of. I’ve been able to do some functional validation, which is looking good, but I’d love to get more eyes on the patch | 18:41 |
| tbachman | all feedback is welcome! | 18:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: one nit i had was that i was hoping to not have had to do that string to list conversion everywhere | 18:42 |
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| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: ack | 18:42 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: but i am fine with what you have gotten working | 18:42 |
| tbachman | the problem is that we need to check the prefixes | 18:42 |
| SumitNaiksatam | if its possible at all to do it in a different way, we can revisit later | 18:42 |
| tbachman | so dealing with it as a list is easy | 18:43 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i know you have bigger issues to deal with right now | 18:43 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i think you already repsonded to my other comments | 18:43 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | anhything else on this topic? | 18:44 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: thanks again for working on tis | 18:45 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: thanks for the feedback! | 18:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Open Discussion | 18:45 |
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| tbachman | and help! | 18:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: np | 18:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: did you end up attending the boston summit? | 18:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | annak_: i havent forgotten your vmware driver patch | 18:46 |
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| rkukura | Just for a couple hours - too busy :( | 18:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | annak_: apologies for being behind on the reviews for that | 18:46 |
| annak_ | SumitNaiksatam: its still WIP | 18:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: ah okay | 18:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | annak_: sure, had looked at it a little bit earlier but see that you are making progress, so thats great | 18:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: any thoughts/comments for the team based on what you saw/heard? | 18:47 |
| annak_ | SumitNaiksatam: the backend API is still to be finalized, so it will stay WIP for a while.. | 18:47 |
| rkukura | I was at one Neutorn forum session, which was mostly about documentation of linuxbridge vs ovs configuration | 18:48 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | annak_: okay | 18:48 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: okay | 18:49 |
| annak_ | I watched a video related to GBP ideas but GBP didn't get mentioned.. | 18:50 |
| annak_ | trying to find a link | 18:50 |
| SumitNaiksatam | annak_: oh thats funny :-) | 18:50 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i am really curious | 18:50 |
| annak_ | https://www.openstack.org/videos/boston-2017/future-of-cloud-networking-and-policy-automation | 18:51 |
| SumitNaiksatam | annak_: thanks for sharing, will take a look | 18:51 |
| annak_ | it was about a broader scope of solutions (not just openstack) but still similar ideas | 18:51 |
| SumitNaiksatam | annak_: right, sounds very related | 18:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | alrighty, if nothing else, we can get a few minutes back | 18:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | thanks all for joining | 18:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bye! | 18:52 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: l8r! | 18:52 |
| annak_ | bye! | 18:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #endmeeting | 18:52 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 18 18:52:47 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2017/networking_policy.2017-05-18-18.03.html | 18:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2017/networking_policy.2017-05-18-18.03.txt | 18:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2017/networking_policy.2017-05-18-18.03.log.html | 18:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: rkukura see you in a few minutes ;-) | 18:53 |
| rkukura | bye | 18:53 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: ack :) | 18:53 |
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