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| flwang | #startmeeting zaqar | 02:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 7 02:00:36 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is flwang. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 02:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 02:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: zaqar)" | 02:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'zaqar' | 02:00 |
| wxy | :) | 02:01 |
| flwang | #topic roll call | 02:01 |
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| flwang | i guess only you and me? wanghao is still in holidy? | 02:01 |
| wxy | I don't know. | 02:01 |
| flwang | no problem | 02:02 |
| flwang | it would be a short meeting | 02:02 |
| flwang | we just released RC1, but without the email subscription confirmation feature | 02:02 |
| flwang | which we need to get it in before 16 feb | 02:02 |
| wxy | I can't send email with my test env. | 02:03 |
| wxy | So I didn't test the code. | 02:03 |
| flwang | interesting, even to your company email? | 02:03 |
| flwang | like @huawei.com | 02:03 |
| wxy | I mean the sendmail software doesn't work. | 02:04 |
| wxy | Can't find the reason. | 02:04 |
| wxy | :( | 02:04 |
| wxy | Have you test it? | 02:05 |
| flwang | wxy: not yet, i'm going to test it today or early tomorrow, recently busy on the migration stuff | 02:06 |
| flwang | the sqlalchemy migration has been merged, but i do really want to merge this one as well https://review.openstack.org/426943 | 02:06 |
| wxy | flwang: OK. | 02:06 |
| wxy | I'll take a look today. | 02:07 |
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| flwang | wxy: are you going to Boston? | 02:11 |
| wxy | No. | 02:11 |
| flwang | but PTG, weird | 02:12 |
| wxy | It's for marketing. | 02:12 |
| wxy | We just attend PTG. | 02:12 |
| flwang | hah, it's ironic | 02:13 |
| flwang | no problem | 02:13 |
| flwang | anything else you want to discuss? | 02:13 |
| wxy | :) | 02:13 |
| wxy | About the Swift CI failure | 02:13 |
| flwang | ah, yep, are you going to work on that? | 02:13 |
| flwang | there are two test cases need to be checked | 02:14 |
| wxy | You can see different errors with some recheck. | 02:14 |
| flwang | yep, 3 cases, and 1 is time related, which i don't really worry about | 02:14 |
| flwang | not sure the other two | 02:14 |
| wxy | The reason is that Swift sometimes return an empty response body. | 02:14 |
| wxy | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/428648/ | 02:15 |
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| flwang | do you know why? | 02:16 |
| wxy | No, i'm blocked here. | 02:16 |
| flwang | ok, i will keep an eye on that | 02:17 |
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| wxy | Swift return 200OK, | 02:17 |
| wxy | but the body is empty. | 02:17 |
| wxy | It's out of my knowledge. | 02:18 |
| flwang | ok, i see | 02:19 |
| flwang | we may need to get some suggestions from swift team | 02:19 |
| wxy | And Thomas as well | 02:20 |
| flwang | yep, i will let him know | 02:20 |
| wxy | Cool. | 02:21 |
| wxy | Thanks. | 02:21 |
| flwang | btw, i may have sent this link https://cloud.google.com/pubsub/architecture before, but pls read it when you have time | 02:21 |
| flwang | it's great for us to think how to improve zaqar | 02:21 |
| wxy | Yeah, Thanks for reminding me. | 02:22 |
| flwang | anything else we should discuss? | 02:23 |
| wxy | That's all | 02:24 |
| flwang | cool, thanks for joining :) | 02:25 |
| wxy | Thanks. | 02:25 |
| flwang | #endmeeting | 02:25 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 7 02:25:50 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 02:25 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zaqar/2017/zaqar.2017-02-07-02.00.html | 02:25 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zaqar/2017/zaqar.2017-02-07-02.00.txt | 02:25 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zaqar/2017/zaqar.2017-02-07-02.00.log.html | 02:25 |
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| matjazp | hey all | 13:00 |
| matjazp | #startmeeting training-guides | 13:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 7 13:00:27 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is matjazp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: training-guides)" | 13:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'training_guides' | 13:00 |
| matjazp | roll call | 13:00 |
| ildikov | o/ | 13:01 |
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| matjazp | hey ildikov | 13:02 |
| matjazp | #link Agenda at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/training-guides-meeting-agenda | 13:02 |
| ildikov | matjazp: hi :) | 13:02 |
| matjazp | nothing special on the agenda | 13:02 |
| kmARC | o- | 13:03 |
| matjazp | lets wait a bit, it's weird that attendance is so low | 13:03 |
| kmARC | oops | 13:03 |
| kmARC | o/ | 13:03 |
| kmARC | I'm here! :-) | 13:03 |
| ildikov | kmARC: hi :) | 13:04 |
| matjazp | hey kmARC | 13:04 |
| matjazp | see meeting minutes at http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2017/training_guides.2017-01-24-13.01.html | 13:05 |
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| matjazp | no action items from the last meeting | 13:05 |
| matjazp | clean slate :) | 13:05 |
| matjazp | #topic Upstream training | 13:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Upstream training (Meeting topic: training-guides)" | 13:06 | |
| asettle | Oops, sorry, bit late again | 13:06 |
| asettle | o/ | 13:06 |
| matjazp | hey asettle | 13:06 |
| asettle | Hey matjazp :) | 13:06 |
| ildikov | asettle: hi :) | 13:06 |
| asettle | Hello helloooo | 13:07 |
| matjazp | we just started a topic about Upstream | 13:07 |
| asettle | Cool :) please continue, sorry to interrupt! | 13:07 |
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| matjazp | anything to report here? | 13:07 |
| asettle | Um | 13:08 |
| asettle | Sort of | 13:08 |
| asettle | Haha | 13:08 |
| asettle | I would like to try and integrate a proper docs training schedule if possible | 13:08 |
| asettle | I know there was some jotted down notes on the etherpad (which I can't find right now) | 13:08 |
| ildikov | matjazp: I sent out the mail to look for mentors to the upstream training, I will follow up with those who volunteered already | 13:08 |
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| matjazp | asettle: look at the meeting minutes for the last meeting (link is few lines up) | 13:09 |
| ildikov | asettle: the exercises etherpad you mean? | 13:09 |
| asettle | Thank you, yes. | 13:09 |
| ildikov | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/upstream-training-exercises | 13:09 |
| ildikov | asettle: we had deep dive sessions in Barcelona and we would like to keep that | 13:10 |
| matjazp | ildikov: what is the response rate? what are the numbers? | 13:10 |
| ildikov | asettle: so if you have ideas on how to improve the docs deep dive that would be great! | 13:10 |
| asettle | ildikov: keep what? | 13:10 |
| asettle | Oh right! | 13:10 |
| asettle | Yes, okay, will do. | 13:10 |
| asettle | Got it. Yeah, I want to try and come up with a scenario for training. I noticed that trevormc had suggested building reno notes but I'm not entirely too sure that's best case scenario but it could be setup to be apprpriate. | 13:10 |
| asettle | Let me think some more on this and I will get back to you. | 13:11 |
| asettle | I'll leave a note for me to action this in the etherpad. | 13:11 |
| ildikov | asettle: the deep dive was the block, where students were sitting together with with a mentor in groups and got deeper into the code and/or documentation | 13:12 |
| ildikov | asettle: how to build docs, modify things, etc | 13:12 |
| asettle | 'the block' ? | 13:12 |
| ildikov | asettle: in case of code how to run tests, how to use devstack to debug, how to find why a test is failing, etc. | 13:12 |
| ildikov | asettle: we had modules/blocks during the training teaching relevant things to new contributors | 13:13 |
| ildikov | asettle: check here: http://docs.openstack.org/upstream-training/ | 13:13 |
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| ildikov | matjazp: we have about 5 people so far | 13:14 |
| asettle | Makes sense. But nothing for docs, except for: http://docs.openstack.org/upstream-training/docs.html#6 | 13:14 |
| ildikov | matjazp: I haven't reached out to the new PTLs yet, that's the next step | 13:15 |
| matjazp | ildikov: yes, but it is still a bit early for this, right? | 13:15 |
| ildikov | asettle: Christian didn't upload slides that's why that content is missing | 13:15 |
| ildikov | matjazp: from the actual training perspective yes | 13:15 |
| ildikov | matjazp: on the other hand I would like to get some more community engagement to onboard new contributors | 13:16 |
| asettle | ildikov: so, perhaps I am confused but there is no planning training exercises for documentation in the etherpad or in the upstream-training page you linked me to. THat's why I am offering help. If there IS already something, then I have misunderstood :) | 13:16 |
| matjazp | ildikov: agree | 13:17 |
| ildikov | asettle: sorry, I was just trying to explain the training format in general | 13:18 |
| asettle | Oh! Oh I'm so sorry I got really lost there! | 13:18 |
| asettle | Makes perfect sense :) | 13:18 |
| matjazp | asettle: but nevertheless - please contribute some exercises for the docs | 13:19 |
| ildikov | asettle: and as the docs part is not documented and less in shape, it's great and perfect that you offer your help! | 13:19 |
| asettle | Right right! Hahaha I am so sorry guys I just messed this section up real bad | 13:19 |
| ildikov | asettle: as we need it much :) | 13:19 |
| asettle | *head desk* | 13:19 |
| ianychoi | hi sorry fir late | 13:19 |
| ianychoi | for | 13:19 |
| matjazp | #action asettle will make some exercises for the Docs part of the Upstream training | 13:20 |
| ildikov | asettle: nah, it's all fine, I will send out a follow up mail to those, who help out and will summarize things | 13:20 |
| asettle | ildikov: perfect :) Thank you | 13:20 |
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| ildikov | asettle: including how we ran the training last time, so it will be more clear to everyone | 13:20 |
| matjazp | hey ildikov | 13:20 |
| matjazp | ups | 13:20 |
| ildikov | asettle: sorry I haven't done it so far | 13:20 |
| matjazp | hey ianychoi | 13:20 |
| ildikov | matjazp: no probs :) | 13:20 |
| ildikov | ianychoi: hi :) | 13:20 |
| asettle | ildikov: not at all! | 13:21 |
| matjazp | any other action items? | 13:22 |
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| matjazp | anything else left to discuss/report about Upstream training? | 13:23 |
| asettle | Nope :) | 13:24 |
| matjazp | #topic training guides | 13:24 |
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| matjazp | still very slow progress | 13:25 |
| matjazp | any ideas how to reignite this topic? | 13:25 |
| matjazp | Upstream is flourishing, but Training guides... ehh.. :( | 13:25 |
| asettle | SO, matjazp I remember there being a brief discussion at the last summit about moving the training guides to live similarly to the deployment guides | 13:26 |
| ildikov | matjazp: do yuo know how much it is used? | 13:26 |
| matjazp | ildikov: nope | 13:26 |
| matjazp | it's still in draft http://docs.openstack.org/draft/training-guides/ | 13:26 |
| matjazp | #link http://docs.openstack.org/draft/training-guides/ | 13:26 |
| matjazp | some progress, but not a lot | 13:27 |
| asettle | Hmm, matjazp is it in decent enough format to be brought out of the draft state? What would you recommend? | 13:27 |
| matjazp | asettle: no, it's not | 13:27 |
| asettle | Hmmm, okay. Is there an etherpad, list, bug reports anything that would alert users to potentially required content? | 13:27 |
| asettle | Sorry, potentially asking all the obvious questions. | 13:27 |
| matjazp | asettle: the idea was to create the material that our Meetups /Openstack days/ community events could quickly use/reuse for the basic openstack intro | 13:28 |
| matjazp | so not for developers, for users | 13:28 |
| asettle | Sure - but people still need to know where they can go to help work on the content. | 13:28 |
| matjazp | asettle: the bugs are in our bug list on LP | 13:28 |
| asettle | Okay, cool, so there is bugs. | 13:28 |
| matjazp | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-training-guides/ | 13:28 |
| asettle | Was there ever an 'action plan' of sorts? Perhaps with deadlines? | 13:29 |
| matjazp | they are marked with [training guides] | 13:29 |
| spotz | Ha Ben sitting in the wrong room. Morning all | 13:29 |
| asettle | o/ | 13:29 |
| matjazp | asettle: nope .. there were never enoughcontributors | 13:29 |
| matjazp | hey spotz | 13:29 |
| asettle | matjazp: might be worth thinking about regardless. If someone offers to contribute, where do you tell them to start? | 13:30 |
| matjazp | with a bug | 13:30 |
| matjazp | there are some smaller ones | 13:30 |
| matjazp | but maybe we could expand this slist or make it more explicit | 13:30 |
| matjazp | I know that it is hard to start a whole "chapter", but enhancing an existing one is much easier | 13:31 |
| asettle | Perhaps? I mean, I'm just think-tanking but whenever I've been trying to push documentation action items I find people respond better to a plan rather than just picking up bugs (unless the actual action item is to pick up bugs) | 13:31 |
| ianychoi | Hmm... yep still slow progress on training-guides | 13:31 |
| spotz | matjazp Do you mark them low hanging fruit? | 13:32 |
| matjazp | so it's much better to quickly merge the content, it is published as draft anyway, and then reiterate and improve | 13:32 |
| ianychoi | For training-guides, using a spec would be a good idea for enhancing training-guides? | 13:32 |
| matjazp | spotz: no, i dont think so | 13:32 |
| asettle | That might be one helpful item, good idea spotz | 13:32 |
| ianychoi | I recently have thought that openstack-training-101 for training-guides | 13:32 |
| asettle | I think ianychoi might be right about creating a spec too. Having a more detailed outline of what you want to achieve for Pike | 13:32 |
| ianychoi | would be a good | 13:32 |
| spotz | I know when I look to join a new project that's something I look for | 13:33 |
| ianychoi | IMO upstream training is like openstack-contribution-101 and training-guides is like openstack-usage-101 | 13:33 |
| matjazp | perhaps.. but I'm afraid that it will just create more overhead | 13:34 |
| matjazp | ianychoi: yes, you could look at it that way | 13:34 |
| asettle | So, I guess it's worth looking at: 1. who uses the training info, 2. Can we get in contact with those people to help contribute, 3. If we can't get those people, how can we do it ourselves | 13:35 |
| ianychoi | asettle, thanks a lot for your insight | 13:36 |
| ianychoi | +1 | 13:36 |
| matjazp | asettle: how can you get info about #1? | 13:36 |
| ildikov | we can always try an ML thread | 13:36 |
| spotz | +[ also ask during the training in Boston | 13:37 |
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| ildikov | if we have material out then we can try to look into how much the page is used, won't give us names though, but at least ideas about how much it is used | 13:37 |
| asettle | matjazp: we can probably use the google analytics to take a look | 13:37 |
| matjazp | ildikov: yes, but material in this stage is still to incomplete to be useful | 13:38 |
| ianychoi | Hmm.. maybe certified OpenStack training institutes use simliar documentation for openstack-usage-101? | 13:38 |
| asettle | I'm trying to get access at the moment, but let's see if we can get Anne to take a look - see what the numbers are. If there are good numbers, maybe we can put a call out to the mailing list(s) on ops, dev, and doc to find out | 13:38 |
| matjazp | ianychoi: sure they do, but they are usually their IP | 13:38 |
| asettle | matjazp and ildikov - so, I guess teh one positive about having a draft guide up on the main page is at the very least people can *see* that there are gaps to be filled. | 13:38 |
| asettle | It's kind of what they did with the HA guide | 13:38 |
| matjazp | IP=intellectual property | 13:39 |
| matjazp | asettle: where do you propose to publish the link? | 13:39 |
| matjazp | not on the main page | 13:39 |
| ianychoi | matjazp, I see :) | 13:39 |
| asettle | matjazp: I don't know, to be completely honest. Perhaps we release it with Ocata. | 13:40 |
| ildikov | asettle: yep, it's important to make it visible if we are fishing for help and feedback | 13:40 |
| asettle | Personally, that's what I would do. But I understand if you don't want to publish half finished work. | 13:41 |
| ianychoi | IMO moving from http://docs.openstack.org/draft/training-guides/ to like http://docs.openstack.org/training-guides/ would be a good idea (without releasename like install-guides) | 13:41 |
| spotz | Yeah w take the info and make it our own. But let's be real there's only one way to CLI and create a server so all training is similar but not the same. | 13:41 |
| matjazp | how do other guides publish their early draft conent? | 13:41 |
| spotz | Sorry trying to follow the meeting and get a horse ready to ride, | 13:42 |
| ianychoi | But I think matjazp 's question is related where such early draft site (training-guides) needs to be linked | 13:42 |
| asettle | I think what ianychoi said about moving it to docs.o.o/training-guides would work. | 13:42 |
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| matjazp | asettle: could we use d.o.o/training-guides URL and mark it as an early draft? | 13:43 |
| matjazp | that would increase visibility | 13:43 |
| matjazp | visibility == more contributors | 13:43 |
| asettle | In theory, yep. matjazp - send an email to Andreas Jaeger and Brian Moss and see if they can do it. | 13:43 |
| asettle | They're our tools team. | 13:43 |
| asettle | I can't promise anything, but it's worth starting that conversation with them. | 13:44 |
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| asettle | We can then work with the team to have DRAFT stamped on the guide | 13:44 |
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| matjazp | asettle: what is the "graduation" procedure for other guides? when are they good enough to publish? | 13:44 |
| matjazp | can we publish them from the VERY early stage onward? | 13:45 |
| asettle | matjazp: to be fair, that's a pretty hard question to answer. Most we tend to publish as long as they have updated content. Install/config/cli guides are released, but the others just are continuing | 13:45 |
| asettle | matjazp: that second questino you're probably better addressing to Andreas - to be completely honest. Not that I *can't* answer it, I'm fairly sure you can publish it. But the tools team might have a different idea of what's best for the guides. | 13:46 |
| ianychoi | Aha tools team | 13:46 |
| matjazp | ok, lets thing about this and we can discuss this again over ML or the next IRC meeting | 13:46 |
| ianychoi | asettle, btw, tools team also deal with openstackstheme? | 13:46 |
| asettle | ianychoi: yes :) | 13:47 |
| ianychoi | sorry openstackdocstheme | 13:47 |
| asettle | So, tools lead is now Brian Moss from Rackspace | 13:47 |
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| asettle | And Andreas Jaeger and Christian Berendt also help out. | 13:47 |
| ianychoi | I see wow cool | 13:47 |
| asettle | Brian is also our release manager for Ocata matjazp - so he will be the best person to talk to about getting docs released. | 13:47 |
| asettle | The other person is Maria Zlatkova | 13:47 |
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| ianychoi | It would be nice if they will have an idea how slide style can be enhanced with better UI/UX for training-guides and also upstream-training | 13:48 |
| matjazp | #info we discuss about the best way to increase Training guides visibility again on the next meeting | 13:48 |
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| asettle | ianychoi: they might be able to help with that :) | 13:48 |
| matjazp | we have only 12 minutes left, so maybe we can move on? | 13:48 |
| asettle | Sorry! | 13:48 |
| asettle | YEs :) | 13:48 |
| ianychoi | asettle, great :) | 13:48 |
| ianychoi | Yep! | 13:48 |
| spotz | :) | 13:48 |
| matjazp | #topic any other business | 13:48 |
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| ianychoi | #link http://openstack-kr.github.io/upstream-training/2017/index_en.html | 13:49 |
| ianychoi | Korean local upstream training will be held on this upcoming Saturday | 13:49 |
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| ianychoi | I am preparing it with local community members so I was late for today meeting.. | 13:49 |
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| ianychoi | kmARC, I will use your VM image during local upstream training :) | 13:50 |
| matjazp | great: dont forget to send a report into our local events archive | 13:51 |
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| ianychoi | matjazp, yep sure :) | 13:51 |
| matjazp | there was a discussion over email about the status of Training guides Coordinators group on LP | 13:51 |
| ildikov | ianychoi: sounds great :) | 13:51 |
| matjazp | I suggested that we can just make a list the same as for cores (https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/360,members) | 13:52 |
| matjazp | is averyone ok with that? | 13:52 |
| spotz | Sounds good to me | 13:53 |
| matjazp | just to clarify: only Tom and Sean Robers were admins in that group, and Lana was making some cleaning up effort | 13:53 |
| ianychoi | matjazp, I agree + when asettle will be included in openstack-training-guides-core | 13:53 |
| ianychoi | ? :) | 13:53 |
| matjazp | the group is practically not used for much | 13:53 |
| matjazp | ianychoi: asettle is already a member - via docs core | 13:53 |
| asettle | matjazp: am I? | 13:54 |
| asettle | Coolio :) | 13:54 |
| asettle | I will add it to my review list. | 13:54 |
| matjazp | and of course, she's replacing Lana in it directly | 13:54 |
| ianychoi | matjazp, aha yep. cool | 13:54 |
| asettle | Well, that's true. I'll do anything I can to help | 13:54 |
| asettle | Ping me when/if you need anything | 13:54 |
| asettle | I will do my best to attend meetings and keep up to date with everything! | 13:54 |
| ianychoi | #link https://launchpad.net/~openstack-upstream-training-coordinators | 13:54 |
| matjazp | so is it ok with everyone to make this LP group the same as core group? | 13:55 |
| asettle | matjazp: I'm most likely going to be sending out my first newsletter report this week, I am happy to highlight a need for contributors to the trainin-guides if you want to send me a quick summary of things? | 13:55 |
| ianychoi | This might be replaced with openstack-training-guides-core? | 13:55 |
| kmARC | :-) of course ianychoi. Sorry people, I need to go now to a meeting :-| | 13:55 |
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| matjazp | asettle: sure. The main point is what ianychoi said: we are building a openstack-101 for users (upstream is for develpers) | 13:56 |
| asettle | matjazp: cool, well let's get hte word out. | 13:56 |
| spotz | I'll try to make meetings but it'll be from the stable.But I've got approval to come early and help in Boston | 13:56 |
| matjazp | ianychoi: i dont know how | 13:56 |
| matjazp | I guess gerrit and LP groups are separate | 13:56 |
| matjazp | spotz: thnx | 13:57 |
| matjazp | kmARC: bye | 13:57 |
| ianychoi | matjazp, actually neither do I. I just followed some instructions how to create openstack-dev-sandbox launchpad and included all the upstream training leaders on last Barcelona | 13:57 |
| matjazp | ianychoi: yes, but the are separate groups, right? | 13:57 |
| ianychoi | matjazp, yep separate groups | 13:57 |
| ildikov | spotz: great news! :) | 13:57 |
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| ildikov | spotz: glad you can come earlier to Boston | 13:57 |
| ianychoi | spotz, wow let's see on Boston. :) | 13:58 |
| ianychoi | during upstream training | 13:58 |
| matjazp | ianychoi: can this be automated? or linked? | 13:58 |
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| matjazp | hard deadline in 1 min | 13:58 |
| matjazp | any last time announcements? | 13:59 |
| ianychoi | matjazp, IMO launchpad cores are manually managed not automated.. | 13:59 |
| ianychoi | Yep... | 13:59 |
| matjazp | ianychoi: i think so too | 13:59 |
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| ianychoi | Thanks for all today! | 13:59 |
| matjazp | thanks for your time all | 13:59 |
| matjazp | see you in 2 weeks | 13:59 |
| matjazp | bye! | 13:59 |
| spotz | Laters | 13:59 |
| matjazp | #endmeeting | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 7 14:00:03 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2017/training_guides.2017-02-07-13.00.html | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2017/training_guides.2017-02-07-13.00.txt | 14:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2017/training_guides.2017-02-07-13.00.log.html | 14:00 |
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