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| reedip | Hi | 05:31 |
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| kaz | hi | 05:31 |
| soichi | hi | 05:31 |
| soichi | #startmeeting taas | 05:31 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 9 05:31:43 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is soichi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 05:31 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 05:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: taas)" | 05:31 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'taas' | 05:31 |
| soichi | #topic Feedback from Barcelona Summit | 05:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Feedback from Barcelona Summit (Meeting topic: taas)" | 05:32 | |
| soichi | Action Items and Next Step | 05:32 |
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| soichi | reedip: thank you for sharing the summary of our discussion in Barcelona | 05:33 |
| soichi | #link: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SQyOCU1qut1mPZk0KGdz_c0j2suAq6-6_LL0yowl2NQ/edit?invite=CM6X2ucE&ts=5819d44b#gid=0 | 05:33 |
| soichi | Kaz will submit source code of dashboard in this week | 05:35 |
| soichi | currently we trying to test, but we have a problem that we can not log in to deployed VM | 05:36 |
| reedip | oh ok | 05:36 |
| reedip | I talked to few members and found out some patches for the L2 extension which we can use for migration of TaaS to L2 extension | 05:39 |
| soichi | great | 05:40 |
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| reedip | nothing else to specify from my side | 05:43 |
| soichi | Kaz: The item "DB and Migrations" seems it should includes several error cases. | 05:43 |
| soichi | Kaz: it looks we need to make a list of error cases | 05:44 |
| kaz | soichi: yes | 05:44 |
| kaz | reedip: could you tell me what is "Migration" means? DB migration? VM migration? | 05:46 |
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| soichi | Kaz: i guess DB migration | 05:49 |
| soichi | VM migration is one of the scenario we need to be care | 05:50 |
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| kaz | soichi: i see | 05:52 |
| soichi | #topic Open Discussion | 05:52 |
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| soichi | any topics for today? | 05:53 |
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| kaz | i have no more topics. | 05:54 |
| soichi | okay, i'd like to close today's meeting | 05:55 |
| soichi | Kaz: please submit rebased taas dashboard then request reviwe and test to taas team | 05:56 |
| kaz | sure | 05:56 |
| soichi | #endmeeting | 05:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 9 05:56:51 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 05:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2016/taas.2016-11-09-05.31.html | 05:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2016/taas.2016-11-09-05.31.txt | 05:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2016/taas.2016-11-09-05.31.log.html | 05:56 |
| soichi | bye | 05:57 |
| kaz | bye | 05:57 |
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| claudiub | #startmeeting hyper-v | 12:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 9 12:59:54 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is claudiub. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 12:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 12:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 12:59 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'hyper_v' | 13:00 |
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| claudiub | hello :) | 13:00 |
| claudiub | anyone here? | 13:00 |
| sagar_nikam | Hi | 13:01 |
| claudiub | hey :) | 13:01 |
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| claudiub | sagar_nikam: is anyone else from your team joining us? | 13:02 |
| sagar_nikam | claudiub: no.. we can start | 13:02 |
| claudiub | cool | 13:03 |
| claudiub | #topic nova status | 13:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "nova status (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:03 | |
| claudiub | so, first of all, os-vif was released, meaning that the Hyper-V OVS vif plug patch can finally merge on master | 13:03 |
| claudiub | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140045/ | 13:04 |
| claudiub | what i'll still want, and we'll probably be required to, is have a full tempest run on that patch with ovs | 13:04 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:05 |
| claudiub | and, after the patch merges, I'm thinking about switching the hyper-v ci on nova to use neutron-ovs-agent, instead of neutron-hyperv-agent | 13:05 |
| claudiub | but that's just an idea for now | 13:05 |
| sagar_nikam | good idea | 13:06 |
| claudiub | the PCI passthrough blueprint was approved | 13:06 |
| claudiub | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/hyper-v-pci-passthrough | 13:06 |
| claudiub | it didn't require a spec | 13:06 |
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| claudiub | some code bits were sent for review | 13:06 |
| claudiub | expecting more code bits to be submitted | 13:06 |
| lpetrut | hi guys | 13:07 |
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| claudiub | afaik, spawning vms with pci devices attached works | 13:07 |
| claudiub | other blueprints that were approved since last meeting are: | 13:08 |
| claudiub | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/hyper-v-boot-from-iso | 13:08 |
| claudiub | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/hyper-v-set-boot-order | 13:08 |
| sagar_nikam | how does the user specify passthrough ? as a glance image property or flavor extra-spec ? | 13:08 |
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| claudiub | I've previously mentioned those bits in the previous meetings, but they're approved now, their respective patches are unblocked. | 13:08 |
| claudiub | sagar_nikam: flavor extra-spec | 13:09 |
| sagar_nikam | ok. got it | 13:09 |
| sagar_nikam | so how are the patches getting reviewed upstream by nova cores ? any hyperv patches getting merged | 13:10 |
| claudiub | getting to that. :) | 13:10 |
| claudiub | so, I don't remember anything merging in the past few weeks, and I'd say that's mainly because of the summit | 13:10 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:11 |
| claudiub | but we've got a couple of reviews on the hyper-v ovs vif plug patch and the os-brick in nova hyper-v driver patch | 13:11 |
| sagar_nikam | how about FC patches ? | 13:11 |
| claudiub | the fibre channel support is included in that os-brick in nova hyper-v driver patch :) | 13:11 |
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| claudiub | #link HyperV: use os-brick for volume related operations https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273504/ | 13:12 |
| claudiub | anyways. I still have a blueprint in mind, that i'll want to propose to nova, and it'll be accepted as a specless blueprint | 13:13 |
| sagar_nikam | as far is can remember, this is the only patch required to support FC. Am i right ? | 13:13 |
| claudiub | it is about creating hyper-v instances with nested virtualization enabled | 13:13 |
| claudiub | sagar_nikam: that is correct. :) | 13:13 |
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| sagar_nikam | ok... lets hope it gets merged in this release. it is long pending BP, I guess 3 releases back we started it | 13:14 |
| claudiub | well, from experience, 3 releases isn't that long. :) | 13:14 |
| claudiub | but we don't have a lot of remaining patches remaining, so I'd say that there's a good chance it'll merge in ocata | 13:15 |
| claudiub | also, I'd like to mention that ocata is a veeery short cycle | 13:15 |
| claudiub | the 1st milestone is next week already | 13:16 |
| claudiub | and the release in february 2017 | 13:16 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:16 |
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| claudiub | which means, that pretty much all we have submitted, will have to get in by the 2nd milestone | 13:17 |
| claudiub | which is in 16 dec. | 13:17 |
| claudiub | moving on | 13:18 |
| claudiub | #topic monasca status | 13:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "monasca status (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:18 | |
| claudiub | so, a couple of patches merged already | 13:18 |
| claudiub | monasca-agent can now start on windows. :) | 13:18 |
| sagar_nikam | wow !!! nice | 13:18 |
| claudiub | but there are still plenty of patches remaining | 13:18 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:19 |
| claudiub | other than that, not many other news | 13:19 |
| claudiub | I've met Roland at the summit :) | 13:19 |
| sagar_nikam | ok. was about to ask that | 13:20 |
| sagar_nikam | how are his plans for merging the code | 13:20 |
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| claudiub | yeah. apparently they're testing the monasca patches on windows | 13:20 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:20 |
| sagar_nikam | and what about monasca-log ? | 13:21 |
| sagar_nikam | still lower priority ? | 13:21 |
| claudiub | Andrea Adams is the one that is testing those patches, and he basically relies on his / her +1 to merge them | 13:21 |
| claudiub | i'm afraid so | 13:21 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:22 |
| claudiub | there are too many things we want to do this cycle | 13:22 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:22 |
| claudiub | is there anyone from your team willing to help with monasca-log on windows, perhaps? | 13:22 |
| sagar_nikam | what happened to the freerdp issue we had raised ? | 13:22 |
| sagar_nikam | claudiub: let me check | 13:23 |
| claudiub | we'll talk about freerdp in the open discussion topic :) | 13:24 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:25 |
| claudiub | so, anything else on this topic? | 13:25 |
| sagar_nikam | no | 13:26 |
| claudiub | ok | 13:27 |
| claudiub | #topic Ocata plans | 13:27 |
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| claudiub | soo, other than merging the already proposed blueprints / features in nova / monasca, we have a couple of plans for this short cycle | 13:27 |
| claudiub | as far as features go, we've talked with the trove guys about adding support for Windows SQL Server in trove | 13:28 |
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| claudiub | it'll take some time to implement it fully, as the driver interface is quite extensive | 13:29 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:29 |
| claudiub | and the trove agent will have to work first on Windows, since it has quite a few Linux-specific bits in its code | 13:29 |
| sagar_nikam | not tried trove... dont know much about it | 13:29 |
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| claudiub | it's basically database as a service | 13:29 |
| sagar_nikam | yes i know | 13:30 |
| claudiub | secondly, we'd like to add some tempest tests for all sorts of hyper-v features that we've added during the years | 13:32 |
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| claudiub | like remotefx, shielded vms, secure boot, etc. | 13:32 |
| claudiub | and future features | 13:33 |
| claudiub | thirdly, we still want to increase the hyper-v driver's performance. :) | 13:33 |
| claudiub | and of course, windows containers | 13:34 |
| sagar_nikam | ok... can you elaborate on how the perf will be improved | 13:34 |
| sagar_nikam | on containers ... did you see this ? | 13:35 |
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| sagar_nikam | http://blog.kubernetes.io/2016/11/bringing-kubernetes-support-to-azure.html?m=1&utm_content=buffer0fa30&utm_medium=social&utm_source=linkedin.com&utm_campaign=buffer | 13:35 |
| sagar_nikam | kubernetus support in azure | 13:35 |
| claudiub | well, my plan is to add os-win objects. at the moment, when we're creating a hyper-v instance, we basically query the same hyper-v WMI VM object multiple times (modify memory, cpu count, add drives, add nics, etc.). with this, all those extra queries can be avoided. | 13:36 |
| sagar_nikam | ok nice | 13:37 |
| claudiub | no, i haven't seen it yet. i see that it was posted 2 days ago | 13:37 |
| claudiub | anything else on this topic? | 13:37 |
| claudiub | moving on | 13:38 |
| claudiub | #topic open discussion | 13:38 |
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| claudiub | first of all, sagar_nikam, do you have a link to that freerdp issue? | 13:39 |
| sagar_nikam | let me check | 13:39 |
| claudiub | also, I might not know the answer, and cosmin, the freerdp guy, is currently on vacation | 13:39 |
| claudiub | but i'll ask him when he's available | 13:39 |
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| claudiub | secondly, any news from your side, sagar_nikam? | 13:40 |
| sagar_nikam | https://github.com/FreeRDP/FreeRDP-WebConnect/issues/149 | 13:40 |
| sagar_nikam | ok no issues | 13:41 |
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| claudiub | sagar_nikam: yeah, I'll have to ask cosmin :) | 13:41 |
| claudiub | another nice thing that we're looking forward to this cycle would be the nova resource providers work being done, or at least almost done | 13:42 |
| claudiub | especially the storage providers part | 13:43 |
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| claudiub | which will help with the compute node's shared storage scenario | 13:43 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:43 |
| claudiub | they say that it'll be done in about a month.. so, curious about it :) | 13:44 |
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| claudiub | sagar_nikam: anything else you wish to discuss? | 13:44 |
| sagar_nikam | no.. nothing much from my side | 13:45 |
| claudiub | ok, well, I think we can end this meeting then. :) | 13:45 |
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| claudiub | thanks for joining, see you next week! | 13:46 |
| sagar_nikam | sure | 13:46 |
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| claudiub | #endmeeting | 13:46 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 9 13:46:33 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:46 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2016/hyper_v.2016-11-09-12.59.html | 13:46 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2016/hyper_v.2016-11-09-12.59.txt | 13:46 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2016/hyper_v.2016-11-09-12.59.log.html | 13:46 |
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| rhochmuth | #startmeeting monasca | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 9 15:01:48 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rhochmuth. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'monasca' | 15:01 |
| bklei | o/ | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | am i in the right time-zone | 15:02 |
| witek | you must know :) | 15:02 |
| rbak | o/ | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | bklei: you are here, so maybe | 15:02 |
| shinya_kwbt | o/ | 15:02 |
| bklei | i believe so | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | looks like i made it on time | 15:02 |
| shinya_kwbt | rhochmuth: You are right | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | we just switched the clocks in the usa | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | daylight savings time | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | maybe trump can get rid of daylight savings time | 15:03 |
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| rhochmuth | sorry meant "the trump" | 15:03 |
| bklei | :) | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | So our agenda is at, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-team-meeting-agenda | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | and there is nothing in it | 15:04 |
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| rhochmuth | for today | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | anyone have any topics to discuss | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | reviews | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | ... | 15:04 |
| witek | haad1 asked for grafana-datasource working with stable/newton | 15:05 |
| bklei | how's cassandra? | 15:05 |
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| rhochmuth | so, let's take grafana-datasource first | 15:05 |
| rbak | what's not working with newton? | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | at onetime grafana-datasource did work on stable newton | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/395041/ | 15:06 |
| witek | stable/newton does not have new endpoints | 15:06 |
| rhochmuth | so, it looks like grafana datasource was update to use the new dimensions names/values endpoints | 15:06 |
| witek | but older commit should work, I think | 15:06 |
| rhochmuth | but that wasn't on newton | 15:06 |
| rhochmuth | i don't think i can merge adam's change to newton | 15:06 |
| witek | no, I don't think either | 15:07 |
| rhochmuth | that is new functionality that wasnt't in newton | 15:07 |
| rbak | So changing the change to the new dimensions api broke newton? | 15:07 |
| rhochmuth | we tried to get it in, but missed the window | 15:07 |
| witek | we should tag the grafana-datasource though | 15:07 |
| rhochmuth | rbak: correct | 15:07 |
| rbak | Well we can't exactly role that back now. We've got it in production here. | 15:07 |
| rhochmuth | no, i don't think we shoudl roll it back | 15:08 |
| rbak | Any suggestions on how to handle that? | 15:08 |
| rhochmuth | so we can't take adam's review and merge it | 15:08 |
| witek | in the perfect world we should have stable/newton for grafana-datasource | 15:08 |
| rhochmuth | correct | 15:08 |
| witek | but I think it's enough to make a tag | 15:08 |
| witek | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/395595/ | 15:09 |
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| rhochmuth | yes, that seems like the best alternative | 15:09 |
| rbak | that works for me. | 15:09 |
| rbak | this won't be a perfect solution though | 15:09 |
| witek | rbak: would you prefer the branch? | 15:10 |
| rbak | Grafana is also changing versions and so the datasource version will need to match roughly a version of grafana or some features may be broken | 15:10 |
| rhochmuth | that commit hash says "switch templating to use dimension values endpoint" | 15:10 |
| rhochmuth | and it is for ocata | 15:10 |
| rhochmuth | that doesn't help newton | 15:10 |
| rhochmuth | so for newon we would have to do something similar, with the commit tag one commit/review earlier | 15:11 |
| rbak | witek: I think the tag idea is fine, but any solution won't be perfect since Grafana isn't using Openstack versions | 15:11 |
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| rhochmuth | yeah, that too | 15:11 |
| rhochmuth | seems like the best we can do is to release the grafana datasource for the newton release | 15:12 |
| rhochmuth | would you want to use a 1.0.0 version number for ocata then? | 15:12 |
| rhochmuth | should we have 1.0.0 for newton, and 2.0.0 for ocata | 15:13 |
| rhochmuth | since they are incompatible | 15:13 |
| rbak | I think 1.0.0 for Newton is fine. That was the first release to include the grafana datasource. | 15:13 |
| rhochmuth | right | 15:14 |
| rhochmuth | then 2.0.0 for Ocata, since it is a incompatible change | 15:14 |
| rbak | works for me | 15:14 |
| witek | we still have to tag on master first, right? | 15:14 |
| rhochmuth | i don't think so | 15:15 |
| rhochmuth | ocata is master right now | 15:15 |
| witek | right | 15:15 |
| rhochmuth | so, your review, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/395595/, would be modified to be 2.0.0 | 15:16 |
| witek | and we don't have any other branch | 15:16 |
| rhochmuth | then we would create a release for newton, if they let us, that is 1.0.0 | 15:16 |
| rhochmuth | with a commit tag prior to the one in your current review | 15:16 |
| rhochmuth | basically a commit tag that doesn't have the new dimensions and names changes | 15:17 |
| witek | my review puts the tag with the code for newton, so it should stay 1.0 in my oppinion | 15:17 |
| rhochmuth | Release monasca-grafana-datasource 1.0.0 for Ocata | 15:17 |
| rhochmuth | it says ocata and is in the ocata directory | 15:17 |
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| witek | yes, I don't have other place for it at the moment | 15:18 |
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| rhochmuth | i think it needs to the newton directory | 15:18 |
| rhochmuth | and say newton | 15:18 |
| witek | ok | 15:18 |
| witek | I'll move it then | 15:19 |
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| rhochmuth | well, i think what you want is two reviews | 15:19 |
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| witek | another one with HEAD, you mean? | 15:19 |
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| rhochmuth | the current one is valid for ocata, it just needs to be for a 2.0.0 version number | 15:20 |
| rhochmuth | then, on the newton release | 15:20 |
| rhochmuth | a similar review | 15:20 |
| rhochmuth | but it needs to be 1.0.0 | 15:20 |
| rhochmuth | and it needs to use a commit tag earlier in time | 15:20 |
| witek | for Ocata I would take newer state then | 15:20 |
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| rhochmuth | at some point that didn't have the names/dimensions changes | 15:21 |
| rhochmuth | correct | 15:21 |
| rhochmuth | ocata will pull top of master branch | 15:21 |
| witek | ok | 15:21 |
| witek | also, jenkins complains "no release job specified for openstack/monasca-grafana-datasource, should be one of ['nodejs4-publish-to-npm', 'openstack-server-release-jobs', 'publish-to-pypi', 'puppet-tarball-jobs'] or no release will be published" | 15:21 |
| witek | is it OK to add 'nodejs4-publish-to-npm'? | 15:22 |
| rhochmuth | i guess | 15:22 |
| witek | rbak: ? | 15:22 |
| rbak | Does that really make sense though? | 15:22 |
| rbak | The only place it needs to be published is the grafana site | 15:22 |
| rbak | And installing it is just git cloning it to the right place | 15:23 |
| rbak | It won't hurt to specify a release job, I'm just not sure it does any good either. | 15:23 |
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| witek | Jenkins returns error otherwise | 15:24 |
| rbak | Alright, if it's required then add it. | 15:25 |
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| witek | ok, I think that's all for this topic | 15:25 |
| rhochmuth | #topic cassandra | 15:26 |
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| bklei | just wondering how that effort is going | 15:26 |
| rhochmuth | so, we haven't completely given up on cassandra | 15:28 |
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| rhochmuth | but, it is not looking good | 15:28 |
| witek | rhochmuth: do you have some news? | 15:28 |
| rhochmuth | you can look at, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca_cassandra | 15:28 |
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| bklei | that's a big list of problems | 15:29 |
| rhochmuth | yeah, it might be difficult piecing together from all the notes | 15:29 |
| rhochmuth | that were starting to get a little haphazard | 15:29 |
| rhochmuth | i would start at Issue 6.2 | 15:30 |
| rhochmuth | but i'll try and summarize | 15:30 |
| witek | Languages, Python vs Java and insert rates ? | 15:31 |
| rhochmuth | cassandra has a 2B row limit, but the | 15:31 |
| rhochmuth | sorry | 15:31 |
| rhochmuth | yes witek | 15:31 |
| rhochmuth | cassandra has a 2B row limit, but the effective limit is around 100K | 15:31 |
| rhochmuth | this means that series will have to be split across multiple partitions | 15:31 |
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| rhochmuth | which implies that you can't do in-database user-defined functions/aggregations | 15:32 |
| rhochmuth | which implies you have to query everything into the API, then do statistics functions, ... | 15:32 |
| rhochmuth | the other main problem is in the areas of secondary indices | 15:32 |
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| rhochmuth | basically inverted index tables to get a meric ID from a metric name and dimensions | 15:33 |
| rhochmuth | you end up creating a lot of paritions | 15:33 |
| rhochmuth | which you can't easily search across | 15:33 |
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| rhochmuth | insert performance was not very good either | 15:34 |
| witek | other solutions seem to overcome that problem by indexing in different DB | 15:34 |
| witek | relational or ES | 15:34 |
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| rhochmuth | that is an option we considered | 15:35 |
| rhochmuth | i'm not keen on it, as it adds a lot of extra complexity | 15:35 |
| rhochmuth | in addition, the other problems aren't addressed | 15:35 |
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| rhochmuth | all the stitching together of time-series in the API would be a major problem | 15:36 |
| rhochmuth | additionally, for every query, you need to first query the DB with the indices, get the response, then query cassandra for the time series | 15:36 |
| rhochmuth | so, there is a bit of latency in the data path | 15:37 |
| rhochmuth | we could also store indices in other places too | 15:38 |
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| rhochmuth | but the show-stopper for me is the limits on row sizes, which leads to all the "client" side processing | 15:38 |
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| witek | I think KairosDB should have this implemented, I'm not sure about performance though | 15:39 |
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| rhochmuth | not sure what else to day | 15:40 |
| rhochmuth | hpe spent a huge amount of time on this | 15:40 |
| rhochmuth | both deklan and i spent about 5 weeks lf late nights and weeks looking into this | 15:40 |
| rhochmuth | and we had others of the hpe monasca team involved too | 15:40 |
| rhochmuth | please, prove us wrong | 15:40 |
| bklei | :) | 15:40 |
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| rhochmuth | i don't see anyone else stepping up to do the grunt work | 15:41 |
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| rhochmuth | this is after there were a lot of statements that folks would be pitching in | 15:41 |
| rhochmuth | as far as i'm concerend kairosdb is on cassandra | 15:41 |
| rhochmuth | if you understand cassandra then there is no way kairosdb could solve the problems | 15:41 |
| rhochmuth | but please, do the work | 15:41 |
| rhochmuth | set-up a three node cluster | 15:42 |
| rhochmuth | create the schemas | 15:42 |
| rhochmuth | write the benchmarks | 15:42 |
| rhochmuth | do the analysis | 15:42 |
| bklei | we at charter are grateful for the work hpe has done on this, for sure | 15:42 |
| rhochmuth | in the near future i will be removing all the cassandra stuff from monasca | 15:43 |
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| bklei | we don't have the resource to pick this up though -- just wanted an update | 15:43 |
| rhochmuth | i get commits from folks that have never looked at performance | 15:43 |
| bklei | so hpe's strategy is continue to ship w/vertica then? | 15:44 |
| rhochmuth | no | 15:44 |
| rhochmuth | for the time being we will use vertica | 15:44 |
| witek | we did look at performance, not with kairosDB though | 15:44 |
| rhochmuth | what did you do | 15:45 |
| witek | we tested the complete monasca installation and compared influx and cassandra rates | 15:45 |
| rhochmuth | we are looking at alternatives to vertica which include incfluxdb, ES, and other | 15:45 |
| rhochmuth | bklei: the problem for vertica is that it will be going to microfocus | 15:47 |
| rhochmuth | so, at some point in time, we expect that we will require a license too | 15:47 |
| bklei | aah. losing your baby. | 15:47 |
| rhochmuth | the details aren't completely known, but that is a potential outcome, and probably the more likely | 15:47 |
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| bklei | well, thx for the update | 15:50 |
| rhochmuth | wecome | 15:50 |
| rhochmuth | not sure it has been a great update | 15:50 |
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| rhochmuth | i was really hopeful when starting | 15:50 |
| rhochmuth | we actually did hit 150K inserts per second on a single node | 15:50 |
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| rhochmuth | but then when we went to a 3 node cluster, the performance remained at 150K | 15:51 |
| rhochmuth | and inserts per second don't translate into metrics per second | 15:51 |
| rhochmuth | some of the schemas requires multiple tables, and therefore multiple inserts | 15:51 |
| bklei | as an operator, we are more concerned about getting data out, than in. there's so much buffering anyway on the write path... | 15:51 |
| rhochmuth | you can try and be smart about inserts then, but that adds a lot of complexity | 15:51 |
| rhochmuth | which i didn't mind | 15:52 |
| rhochmuth | because it is only software and presented some challenges | 15:52 |
| rhochmuth | but, in the end the performance was not acceptable | 15:52 |
| rhochmuth | InfluxDB can hit 300K metrics/sec | 15:52 |
| rhochmuth | i don't really want to spend time developing something that is not competitive | 15:52 |
| rhochmuth | also, the influxdb team have done their analysis | 15:53 |
| rhochmuth | and come to a similar conclusion | 15:53 |
| rhochmuth | so, we've validate some of their competitive analysis | 15:53 |
| rhochmuth | i pretty much spent 5 weeks trying to prove them wrong! | 15:53 |
| rhochmuth | or prove we could do it | 15:54 |
| rhochmuth | that doesn't align with a lot of the rest of the cassandra community using it for time-series | 15:54 |
| rhochmuth | but, if you dive into the example that are shown | 15:54 |
| rhochmuth | sensors, weather stations, iot, ... | 15:54 |
| witek | so you want to go with InfluxDB, what about clustering? | 15:55 |
| rhochmuth | they are a lot more specific and they don't have the same problems we do | 15:55 |
| rhochmuth | influxdb is an option | 15:55 |
| rhochmuth | there are several options | 15:55 |
| shinya_kwbt | So MonfluxDB forked from past InfluxDB. | 15:56 |
| rhochmuth | how about we have another meeting on the influxdb question and alternatives | 15:56 |
| witek | yes, I think we need it | 15:57 |
| rhochmuth | ok, i'll setup something ASAP | 15:57 |
| rhochmuth | shinya_kwbt: possibly | 15:58 |
| rhochmuth | ok, i need to end the meeting | 15:59 |
| rhochmuth | bye everyone | 15:59 |
| kamil___ | bye | 15:59 |
| witek | bye | 15:59 |
| rhochmuth | #endmeeting | 15:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 9 15:59:49 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2016/monasca.2016-11-09-15.01.html | 15:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2016/monasca.2016-11-09-15.01.txt | 15:59 |
| shinya_kwbt | thanks | 15:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2016/monasca.2016-11-09-15.01.log.html | 15:59 |
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| eglute | #startmeeting defcore | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 9 16:00:02 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is eglute. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: defcore)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'defcore' | 16:00 |
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| eglute | #topic agenda | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: defcore)" | 16:00 | |
| eglute | Hello everyone, here is our agenda for today: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DefCoreRoble.2 | 16:00 |
| eglute | let me know if you are here for the defcore meeting | 16:00 |
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| eglute | hogepodge and Mark wont be able to attend today | 16:01 |
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| eglute | I guess this time change is not working out for us. | 16:02 |
| Rockyg | o/ | 16:02 |
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| eglute | Hello Rockyg! | 16:02 |
| eglute | Looks like so far it is just you and me here! | 16:02 |
| eglute | Lets give a few minutes for others to join | 16:03 |
| eglute | Rockyg is this time ok for you in general? it works for me, but i wonder if it is bad for others | 16:03 |
| Rockyg | it could be better, but better than the interop challenge | 16:06 |
| eglute | I agree! | 16:07 |
| eglute | well, looks like it is just you and me. | 16:07 |
| eglute | We dont have quorum. I think some people are at a conference | 16:08 |
| eglute | if you could review this, would be helpful: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385216/ | 16:09 |
| eglute | other than that, I think i will end the meeting, unless you want to discuss anything :) | 16:09 |
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| eglute | #endmeeting | 16:10 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 9 16:10:37 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:10 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2016/defcore.2016-11-09-16.00.html | 16:10 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2016/defcore.2016-11-09-16.00.txt | 16:10 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2016/defcore.2016-11-09-16.00.log.html | 16:10 |
| Rockyg | ill take a look... | 16:11 |
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| Rockyg | thanks fot being here, eglute | 16:11 |
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| eglute | thanks Rockyg! | 16:12 |
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| dansmith | #startmeeting nova_cells | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 9 17:00:03 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dansmith. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova_cells)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_cells' | 17:00 |
| mriedem | o/ | 17:00 |
| dansmith | cells peeps say wha? | 17:00 |
| bauzas | \o | 17:00 |
| mriedem | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHYIGy1dyd8 | 17:00 |
| melwitt | o/ | 17:00 |
| mriedem | is what i say | 17:00 |
| dansmith | okay, I guess it's just us | 17:01 |
| dansmith | #topic testing | 17:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "testing (Meeting topic: nova_cells)" | 17:01 | |
| dansmith | anything on this? | 17:01 |
| dansmith | we have some things pending for cellsv2 in grenade and devstack | 17:01 |
| mriedem | well | 17:01 |
| mriedem | yeah that | 17:01 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/393441/ | 17:01 |
| mriedem | is grenade ^ | 17:01 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:ocata-requires-cellsv2 | 17:01 |
| mriedem | i'm good with the nova change on top https://review.openstack.org/#/c/392227/ | 17:01 |
| mriedem | so bauzas melwitt ^ | 17:02 |
| * bauzas looking | 17:02 | |
| mriedem | we kind of need sdague for the grenade change | 17:02 |
| bauzas | heh, it was my question | 17:02 |
| dansmith | yeah | 17:02 |
| mriedem | but i'm not sure when he comes back | 17:02 |
| bauzas | but https://review.openstack.org/#/c/392227/ resolved it | 17:02 |
| dansmith | at least another week I think | 17:02 |
| mriedem | i can ping him to see for sure | 17:02 |
| dansmith | we have some things that can go in before the big ones in nova to get stuff done while we wait for that | 17:03 |
| dansmith | so I'm not too concerned | 17:03 |
| mriedem | the big issues is going to be, | 17:03 |
| bauzas | okay, I'll dig into those changes | 17:03 |
| mriedem | upgrading/starting api last in grenade/devstack for multicell | 17:03 |
| mriedem | but before tackling that, we can probably deal with non-grenade multinode cells v2 | 17:04 |
| dansmith | mriedem: yeah, so I had some hacky patches up to try to do that, and have talked to sdague about it.. it's going to be a little tough because of when/where we setup the api endpoints in keystone, etc | 17:04 |
| dansmith | yeah | 17:04 |
| mriedem | also, | 17:04 |
| mriedem | with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/392289/ we might just automatically get it... | 17:04 |
| mriedem | because the neutron multinode job will now be running cells v2 | 17:04 |
| mriedem | so we'll see | 17:05 |
| mriedem | sdague's orientation is the 29th | 17:05 |
| dansmith | mriedem: that won't end up with old api I don't think | 17:05 |
| mriedem | dansmith: no it would be full install multinode all ocata | 17:05 |
| mriedem | wanted to make sure the scheduler changes are working in that case at least | 17:06 |
| dansmith | oh I see what you mean | 17:06 |
| dansmith | yep | 17:06 |
| dansmith | we're kinda bleeding over already so let me just... | 17:06 |
| mriedem | fudge....so, | 17:06 |
| dansmith | #topic open reviews | 17:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open reviews (Meeting topic: nova_cells)" | 17:06 | |
| mriedem | sdague is basically out for the rest of the year... | 17:07 |
| mriedem | maybe a week or two in december | 17:07 |
| mriedem | just keep that in mind | 17:07 |
| dansmith | I thought we'd get him for beginning of dec yeah | 17:07 |
| mriedem | for like a week :) | 17:07 |
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| mriedem | and he'll be playing catchup | 17:07 |
| dansmith | I'll probably drop off at some point too, haven't planned yet | 17:07 |
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| mriedem | alright | 17:07 |
| dansmith | yeah, I know, but if we can at least get the grenade thing figured out, | 17:07 |
| dansmith | there are a couple other grenade cores | 17:07 |
| dansmith | if we know what he's okay with and not | 17:08 |
| mriedem | there are other grenade cores?! :) | 17:08 |
| dansmith | yeah man :) | 17:08 |
| mriedem | treinish also being out forever | 17:08 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/188,members | 17:08 |
| mriedem | oh not even | 17:08 |
| mriedem | so dean | 17:08 |
| mriedem | we can move on | 17:08 |
| dansmith | yeah | 17:08 |
| dansmith | so, for open reviews, | 17:09 |
| bauzas | interesting | 17:09 |
| dansmith | I have the big set to work on moving scheduling to the conductor, | 17:09 |
| dansmith | which is actually a lot of the work we have planned for this cycle | 17:09 |
| dansmith | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/319379/ | 17:09 |
| dansmith | it was pretty far off a week ago, but it's actually starting to work a bit now | 17:09 |
| dansmith | we've discussed some of the sticking points like secgroups this morning | 17:09 |
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| dansmith | so still some work to do there, but it's going pretty well | 17:10 |
| dansmith | glad to have melwitt back so she can find all the bugs | 17:10 |
| mriedem | so after this morning we have at least 2 changes right? | 17:10 |
| dansmith | yeah | 17:10 |
| mriedem | 1. store uuid in secgroup | 17:10 |
| melwitt | heh | 17:10 |
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| mriedem | 2. get the uuid from the name in the api and use that for #1 | 17:10 |
| mriedem | i'll take a crack at #2 | 17:10 |
| bauzas | I'm cool with that plan | 17:10 |
| dansmith | mriedem: yeah, so trying to get #2 into its own patch is going to be a little hard I think | 17:10 |
| dansmith | mriedem: because of the changeover that the last patch makes | 17:10 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: oh okay I was going to do both but that's fine | 17:11 |
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| mriedem | i need you to review specs :) | 17:11 |
| mriedem | i have to tap out of specs for awhile | 17:11 |
| dansmith | heh | 17:11 |
| dansmith | okay | 17:11 |
| dansmith | okay so aside from that set, | 17:12 |
| dansmith | what else is on the blocks right now? | 17:12 |
| mriedem | so, | 17:12 |
| mriedem | instances going to cell0 is not a thing yet right? | 17:12 |
| dansmith | it is | 17:12 |
| mriedem | and we talked about working that in with the scheudler stuff | 17:12 |
| dansmith | as part fo that set | 17:12 |
| mriedem | orly | 17:12 |
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| dansmith | yup | 17:12 |
| dansmith | there is a lot wrapped up in there | 17:13 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/367557/ ? | 17:13 |
| bauzas | that's in the series | 17:13 |
| dansmith | mriedem: well, yes, but not until the last patch does it actually happen of course | 17:13 |
| mriedem | "- in the case of failure method creates instance in cell0" | 17:13 |
| mriedem | yup | 17:13 |
| mriedem | ok, | 17:13 |
| mriedem | hmm, | 17:13 |
| mriedem | i might just mark that cell0 bp as complete then, or superseded by the scheduler interaction one | 17:14 |
| dansmith | and after this set, we'll be scheduling across cells | 17:14 |
| dansmith | so we kinda have the beginnings of multicell | 17:14 |
| mriedem | since we're tracking them together | 17:14 |
| mriedem | ok so those were the big things on my radar | 17:14 |
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| mriedem | melwitt is back and can start digging in on this or the quotas stuff if needed, | 17:14 |
| dansmith | what I meant above was.. are there other big sets of changes up for review? | 17:15 |
| mriedem | as noted i looked into the quotas counting thing a bit yesterday | 17:15 |
| mriedem | no | 17:15 |
| dansmith | okay | 17:15 |
| dansmith | #topic open discussion | 17:15 |
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| mriedem | there are some tricky bits with counting rams/cores in the api | 17:15 |
| mriedem | placement api and resource provider usage might help with that? | 17:15 |
| dansmith | yeah | 17:15 |
| mriedem | but that's not per-tenant is it... | 17:15 |
| dansmith | although they don't know about tenants | 17:15 |
| mriedem | right | 17:15 |
| dansmith | so you'd have to do a pretty big query of them | 17:15 |
| mriedem | i know a guy that likes to write big sql queries | 17:16 |
| dansmith | well, | 17:16 |
| dansmith | it can't be a sql query | 17:16 |
| dansmith | we have to basically get a list of instance uuids and then query all the ram/cores taken by $uuids | 17:16 |
| mriedem | you'd have to map instances to computes and computes to resource providers right? | 17:16 |
| dansmith | which could potentially be yuuge | 17:16 |
| bauzas | dansmith: talking about statistics ? | 17:16 |
| dansmith | mriedem: no we have allocations by instance uuid (consumer) | 17:16 |
| dansmith | bauzas: no? | 17:16 |
| dansmith | mriedem: unfortunately, the data is still in our own db so we could do something super efficient, | 17:17 |
| dansmith | mriedem: but the virtual wall between us an placement prevents it by decree | 17:17 |
| bauzas | dansmith: http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/compute/?expanded=show-hypervisor-statistics-detail ? | 17:17 |
| dansmith | which is.. kinda the suck | 17:17 |
| mriedem | bauzas: that's not tenant specific though | 17:18 |
| dansmith | bauzas: I'm not sure what that has to do with what we're talking about | 17:18 |
| mriedem | we need tenant specific ram/core usage | 17:18 |
| bauzas | dansmith: okay, me not understanding what you're talking about :) | 17:18 |
| dansmith | bauzas: quotas by counting | 17:18 |
| dansmith | bauzas: as we discussed at summit | 17:18 |
| bauzas | ack | 17:18 |
| mriedem | there are some details in the ML | 17:18 |
| mriedem | i had to talk to dan yesterday afternoon to understand more about that | 17:18 |
| mriedem | i was a bit lost in the session | 17:18 |
| bauzas | as well, I have to admit | 17:18 |
| mriedem | so maybe we don't worry about that today | 17:19 |
| dansmith | yeah, | 17:19 |
| dansmith | let's let people (i.e. melwitt) stew on options a bit | 17:19 |
| mriedem | we do have some other things that need to happen for cells v2, like the instance sort/filter spec alex_xu has up | 17:19 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/388518/ | 17:19 |
| dansmith | I will look at that when we're done here | 17:20 |
| mriedem | ok | 17:20 |
| mriedem | cool | 17:20 |
| mriedem | that's all i have | 17:20 |
| melwitt | there isn't anything in the allocations table yet, right? I don't know how that all works | 17:20 |
| dansmith | mriedem: have you looked at it? | 17:20 |
| dansmith | melwitt: there is | 17:20 |
| dansmith | melwitt: and it's what we need | 17:20 |
| dansmith | melwitt: but we're not supposed to query it directly from the api, even though we can | 17:20 |
| mriedem | dansmith: not yet | 17:20 |
| melwitt | okay. I set up a devstack yesterday and didn't find anything in there so there must be something else I have to do | 17:20 |
| mriedem | it's on my growing list | 17:20 |
| dansmith | mriedem: ack | 17:21 |
| dansmith | melwitt: you didn't have placement enabled | 17:21 |
| mriedem | melwitt: right | 17:21 |
| dansmith | melwitt: which is required for ocata, but probably not defaulted in newton yet | 17:21 |
| mriedem | placement-api needs to be in enabled services | 17:21 |
| dansmith | er, defaulted in devstck | 17:21 |
| melwitt | ah, okay. I'll redo that then | 17:21 |
| melwitt | *enable it then | 17:21 |
| bauzas | yeah, you need to enable placement-api service | 17:21 |
| mriedem | melwitt: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/jenkins/jobs/nova.yaml#n51 | 17:21 |
| mriedem | is the placement job config if that helps | 17:21 |
| bauzas | oh snap | 17:21 |
| melwitt | thanks | 17:22 |
| mriedem | which reminds me i need to get on the scheduler boyz | 17:22 |
| dansmith | okay so sounds like that's most of the status.. good progress and inertia on the important things | 17:22 |
| mriedem | about plans to make that required in ocata | 17:22 |
| dansmith | anything else we need to discuss here | 17:22 |
| dansmith | ? | 17:22 |
| mriedem | nope | 17:22 |
| dansmith | going once | 17:23 |
| melwitt | there is the consoleauth open question still I guess (sorry) | 17:23 |
| dansmith | melwitt: say more things | 17:23 |
| melwitt | I don't remember seeing PaulMurray at the summit | 17:23 |
| dansmith | I don't think he was there, at least that I saw | 17:23 |
| melwitt | but basically for the console token auth there's an upcall that happens to the consoleauth service that's assumed to be running at the API cell | 17:24 |
| melwitt | over rpc | 17:24 |
| melwitt | and PaulMurray in the past had some plans to deprecate that service and replace it with some auth that happens in the DB | 17:24 |
| melwitt | directly, I think | 17:24 |
| dansmith | hmm, an upcall really? | 17:25 |
| melwitt | so if that were to be deprecated we could avoid dealing with an rpc call up to the API cell | 17:25 |
| dansmith | I don't think I know about that | 17:25 |
| dansmith | I liked his auth-in-the-db thing anyway, | 17:25 |
| dansmith | so that seems good | 17:25 |
| melwitt | I'll re-dig up some details to put on one of our etherpads so you can see in detail what I'm talking about. I looked into it several weeks ago and don't remember everything now | 17:26 |
| dansmith | okay cool | 17:27 |
| dansmith | anything else? | 17:27 |
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| dansmith | okay then | 17:28 |
| dansmith | #endmeeting | 17:28 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 9 17:28:12 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:28 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2016/nova_cells.2016-11-09-17.00.html | 17:28 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2016/nova_cells.2016-11-09-17.00.txt | 17:28 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2016/nova_cells.2016-11-09-17.00.log.html | 17:28 |
| bauzas | ++ | 17:28 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | #startmeeting horizon | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 9 20:00:15 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is r1chardj0n3s. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 20:00 |
| r1chardj0n3s | \o/ started it in the correct channel this week | 20:00 |
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| robcresswell | o/ | 20:02 |
| r1chardj0n3s | welcome to the rob-and-richard show! | 20:02 |
| robcresswell | \o/ | 20:02 |
| ying_zuo | :) | 20:02 |
| r1chardj0n3s | ohai ying_zuo :) | 20:02 |
| r1chardj0n3s | OK, not much on the agenda this week | 20:03 |
| robcresswell | I think we should rename the project to Quokka and see if anyone notices | 20:03 |
| robcresswell | Sorry, please continue :) | 20:03 |
| * r1chardj0n3s is looking up how to hold a vote | 20:03 | |
| david-lyle | o/ | 20:03 |
| r1chardj0n3s | #topic Priority patches for review | 20:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Priority patches for review (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:04 | |
| r1chardj0n3s | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/starredby:r1chardj0n3s%20AND%20status:open lists the priority patches for Ocata-1 which is next week | 20:04 |
| r1chardj0n3s | please focus your review attention on those patches | 20:05 |
| robcresswell | Will do. Went through profiling the other day, had a couple nits, otherwise fine | 20:06 |
| r1chardj0n3s | same here, I think it's probably good to go (I saw my -1 has disappearered from the list, so that probably means Timur's addressed my nits) | 20:07 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I am going to revisit my approach in the initScope removal patch to be less distruptive. It will mean we'll have to be extra vigilant that future patches don't use scopes in actions though. | 20:08 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | On the xstatic packages, most of them look good but we need to ensure that upper-constraints will protect us against the angular-bootstrap update, which breaks Horizon horribly (and upper-constraints is supposed to protect us against that) | 20:09 |
| robcresswell | yes, yes it does | 20:09 |
| robcresswell | They renamed everything | 20:09 |
| r1chardj0n3s | Just needs a little more testing ... and the retirement of run_tests.sh ;-) | 20:09 |
| robcresswell | I'm getting there :) | 20:10 |
| r1chardj0n3s | :-) | 20:10 |
| r1chardj0n3s | In other news, the xstatic-angular-ui-router package is now under OpenStack auspices, and in global-requirements, ready for integration into Horizon in O-2 | 20:12 |
| david-lyle | 3 more JS packages and we'll have the full set ;) | 20:12 |
| r1chardj0n3s | 3 more *and their dependencies*, please ;-) | 20:13 |
| david-lyle | right | 20:13 |
| robcresswell | Every function should be its own library right? | 20:13 |
| robcresswell | :D | 20:13 |
| r1chardj0n3s | That's about it from my list of things. Does anyone else have anything they'd like to bring up? | 20:14 |
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| ying_zuo | which ticket is for the retirement of run_tests.sh? | 20:15 |
| robcresswell | Nothing from me. My brains melting a little. | 20:15 |
| robcresswell | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/enhance-tox | 20:15 |
| robcresswell | ying_zuo: ^^ | 20:15 |
| ying_zuo | Thanks Rob | 20:16 |
| robcresswell | It wont be until Q, so no rush | 20:16 |
| r1chardj0n3s | The key is getting tox up to full capability first | 20:16 |
| robcresswell | Without it being just as hacky as run_tests | 20:16 |
| r1chardj0n3s | But with the introduction of the new angular-bootstrap people are going to find they're going to *have* to use tox in place of run_tests | 20:16 |
| ying_zuo | cool | 20:17 |
| robcresswell | r1chardj0n3s: We might want to look at that | 20:17 |
| robcresswell | Cause it'll break things in Mitaka amongst others | 20:17 |
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| robcresswell | Wait, ignore me, I'm being dum | 20:18 |
| r1chardj0n3s | heh | 20:18 |
| r1chardj0n3s | yeah, mitaka should be pinned already | 20:18 |
| robcresswell | Do we pin stables? | 20:19 |
| r1chardj0n3s | that was my understanding | 20:19 |
| robcresswell | My understanding was the opposite | 20:20 |
| r1chardj0n3s | \o/ | 20:20 |
| david-lyle | upper-constraints is the only pinning | 20:21 |
| robcresswell | I'm pretty sure requirements is never pinned | 20:21 |
| robcresswell | yeah | 20:21 |
| david-lyle | and since we didn't support that in mitaka | 20:21 |
| david-lyle | ... | 20:21 |
| robcresswell | sweet | 20:21 |
| r1chardj0n3s | oh, I thought mitaka supported it | 20:21 |
| r1chardj0n3s | hmm | 20:21 |
| david-lyle | openstack did | 20:21 |
| r1chardj0n3s | ah | 20:22 |
| david-lyle | for production it shouldn't be problematic | 20:22 |
| david-lyle | test runs may get more interesting | 20:22 |
| r1chardj0n3s | OK, so we might need to fix mitaka before releasing that library | 20:22 |
| robcresswell | Yeah, I was thinking more of people doing L -> M | 20:22 |
| robcresswell | Anticipating some "hey guys Horizon is f*cked" in IRC | 20:23 |
| r1chardj0n3s | yep. so we probably have a couple of potential approaches to protecting Mitaka from that release | 20:24 |
| david-lyle | I don't think people will proactively update xstatic packages | 20:24 |
| david-lyle | only if they are forced to | 20:24 |
| r1chardj0n3s | "forced" through a "pip install"? | 20:24 |
| r1chardj0n3s | existing installs won't have to worry, no | 20:25 |
| r1chardj0n3s | but new installs, yes | 20:25 |
| r1chardj0n3s | brb | 20:25 |
| david-lyle | new installs yes | 20:25 |
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| robcresswell | Anything else to go over? | 20:27 |
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| david-lyle | no, maybe just drop a link to the etherpad for the keystone-horizon meetings | 20:28 |
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| robcresswell | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-keystone-horizon | 20:29 |
| r1chardj0n3s | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-keystone-horizon Keystone / Horizon joint meeting | 20:29 |
| robcresswell | :D | 20:29 |
| r1chardj0n3s | need to update that with the correct time / room | 20:29 |
| david-lyle | so other interested folks can find | 20:29 |
| robcresswell | #openstack-meeting-cp, Thursday 2000 UTC wasnt it? | 20:29 |
| david-lyle | yuo | 20:29 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | nope | 20:29 |
| david-lyle | *yup | 20:29 |
| david-lyle | ? | 20:29 |
| r1chardj0n3s | hurm | 20:30 |
| r1chardj0n3s | yep | 20:30 |
| david-lyle | 1900? | 20:30 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I thought it'd moved from -cp | 20:30 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | oh well | 20:30 |
| david-lyle | 2000 | 20:30 |
| robcresswell | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#Keystone/Horizon_Collaboration_Meeting | 20:30 |
| r1chardj0n3s | all good | 20:30 |
| david-lyle | oh, PTG signup is open to all now | 20:30 |
| r1chardj0n3s | OK, I think we're done. Thanks all :-) | 20:30 |
| david-lyle | just an FYI | 20:30 |
| robcresswell | Who's going? | 20:31 |
| david-lyle | I signed up | 20:31 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I am planning on going, yes. | 20:31 |
| robcresswell | Me too | 20:31 |
| robcresswell | well thats all of Horizon in attendance then | 20:31 |
| robcresswell | sweet | 20:31 |
| r1chardj0n3s | \o/ | 20:31 |
| david-lyle | haha | 20:31 |
| ediardo | ha | 20:31 |
| r1chardj0n3s | thanks for the PTG reminder david-lyle | 20:31 |
| r1chardj0n3s | #link https://www.openstack.org/ptg/ PTG signup has opened, and there's limited spaces | 20:32 |
| david-lyle | Horizon is first 2 days | 20:32 |
| r1chardj0n3s | Horizon will have sessions on the first two days | 20:32 |
| r1chardj0n3s | snap | 20:32 |
| lcastell | lol | 20:32 |
| r1chardj0n3s | Are we done? david-lyle? :-) | 20:33 |
| david-lyle | I am | 20:33 |
| r1chardj0n3s | #endmeeting | 20:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 20:33 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 9 20:33:26 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:33 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2016/horizon.2016-11-09-20.00.html | 20:33 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2016/horizon.2016-11-09-20.00.txt | 20:33 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2016/horizon.2016-11-09-20.00.log.html | 20:33 |
| * r1chardj0n3s awaits final message from robcresswell that missed the cutoff | 20:33 | |
| robcresswell | oh fs | 20:33 |
| david-lyle | :) | 20:33 |
| r1chardj0n3s | :-D | 20:33 |
| robcresswell | (I kid) | 20:34 |
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