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| jroll | #startmeeting ironic | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 22 17:00:06 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jroll. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' | 17:00 |
| vdrok | o/ | 17:00 |
| dtantsur | o/ | 17:00 |
| mariojv | o/ | 17:00 |
| jroll | who's around? | 17:00 |
| vsaienk01 | \o | 17:00 |
| thiagop | o/ | 17:00 |
| pas-ha | o/ | 17:00 |
| alineb | o/ | 17:00 |
| rpioso | o/ | 17:00 |
| cdearborn | \o | 17:00 |
| jlvillal | o/ | 17:00 |
| jroll | agenda as usual is here | 17:00 |
| jroll | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 17:00 |
| rloo | o/ | 17:00 |
| jroll | #topic announcements and reminders | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements and reminders (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:00 | |
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| jroll | a few things | 17:00 |
| jroll | we're closing in on the end of the cycle, schedule is here: | 17:00 |
| jroll | #link http://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html | 17:00 |
| mat128 | o/ | 17:01 |
| lucasagomes | o/ | 17:01 |
| jroll | #info non-client library final releases this week | 17:01 |
| jroll | #info client library final releases next week | 17:01 |
| devananda | o/ | 17:01 |
| thiagop | #info OneView CI is out due to another cloud breakage. Will be back yet this week. | 17:01 |
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| thiagop | Probably tomorrow, if everything goes as expected | 17:01 |
| jroll | we don't typically follow feature freeze, but I'd like to stop accepting huge and/or risky features after september 2 | 17:01 |
| jroll | #info soft feature freeze (nothing huge and/or risky) september 2 | 17:01 |
| jroll | thiagop: thanks | 17:02 |
| jroll | anything else here? | 17:02 |
| krtaylor | o/ | 17:02 |
| vdrok | also please remember about string freeze | 17:02 |
| jroll | oh, please chime in on this driver/CI email thread: | 17:02 |
| jroll | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-August/101988.html | 17:02 |
| jroll | vdrok: ++ | 17:02 |
| rloo | jroll: are we OK accepting any features/changes that have associated client changes, after the client library release next week? | 17:02 |
| jlvillal | I'm assuming ironic-lib falls into the non-client library category | 17:02 |
| devananda | jroll: any plans to do another release as the basis for newton-final? | 17:02 |
| vdrok | jlvillal: correct | 17:02 |
| lucasagomes | jroll, ++ on my list to reply to that | 17:03 |
| jroll | rloo: yes, however that feature will not be in the "stable/newton" version of the client | 17:03 |
| jroll | devananda: of course! definitely one the week of sept 26, maybe one before if we feel like it | 17:03 |
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| rloo | jroll: right. just wanted to make sure we're ok with it in ironic/newton, but not client/newton. | 17:03 |
| TheJulia | o/ | 17:03 |
| jroll | rloo: yeah, that's okay, people can use a newer client if they need it | 17:03 |
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| * jroll moves on | 17:05 | |
| jroll | #topic subteam status reports | 17:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "subteam status reports (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:05 | |
| jroll | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard | 17:05 |
| jroll | starting at line 80 | 17:05 |
| * jroll gives some time to review | 17:05 | |
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| mjturek1 | o/ | 17:05 |
| wajdi | o/ | 17:05 |
| rama_y | o/ | 17:06 |
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| jroll | dtantsur: need help with that liberty IPA bug? | 17:07 |
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| rloo | dtantsur: that critical bug. I see that jlvillal proposed something but it is -1'd. | 17:07 |
| dtantsur | jroll, yes please, I'm a bit out of time. I think we just have to make sure to use upper-constaints on liberty | 17:07 |
| rloo | dtantsur, jlvillal: you got a handle on that? want to make sure someone is working on it. | 17:07 |
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| jroll | dtantsur: okay, I'll put it on my todo list | 17:07 |
| jroll | unless jlvillal wants to pick it up | 17:08 |
| jlvillal | jroll: If you want to grab it, that is okay. But I can put some time on it this week. | 17:08 |
| jroll | oh, this is what he did | 17:08 |
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| jlvillal | jroll: The problem is that it got complicated with docker images and I haven't figured that part out. | 17:08 |
| dtantsur | I'd say ignore docker images for now... | 17:09 |
| rloo | wrt the portgroup patches. we're hoping to land those in newton, right? is it only in ironic? or are there nova/neutron-associated patches? | 17:09 |
| jroll | jlvillal: I'd prefer to just land it and fix the dockerfile later | 17:09 |
| jlvillal | dtantsur: That's what I wanted to do... | 17:09 |
| jroll | but tonyb is -1 as well :/ | 17:09 |
| jroll | rloo: in ironic in newton, is the goal, and use them in nova in ocata | 17:09 |
| dtantsur | I hope he proposed something instead :/ | 17:09 |
| jroll | he did | 17:09 |
| jlvillal | I'll go see what I can do. Today or tomorrow. | 17:10 |
| rloo | jroll: thx (wrt portgroups) | 17:10 |
| dtantsur | thanks jlvillal | 17:10 |
| jlvillal | But me down for that action item. | 17:10 |
| jlvillal | s/But/Put/ | 17:10 |
| jroll | jlvillal: thanks | 17:10 |
| mat128 | jlvillal, jroll: I can handle the Dockerfile part | 17:10 |
| jroll | \o/ | 17:10 |
| jroll | I agree it should be a separate patch, backported all the way | 17:10 |
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| mat128 | ok, I'll do it in master then submit cherry picks in other branches | 17:11 |
| jlvillal | mat128: Thanks! | 17:11 |
| jroll | cool, thanks | 17:11 |
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| jlvillal | jroll: dtantsur: Does that mean want to land the non-docker part now? Or wait? | 17:11 |
| jroll | jlvillal: now (well, maybe after the meeting | 17:11 |
| jroll | ) | 17:11 |
| rloo | lucasagomes: ironic-lib freeze is this week. w/o the fix to the oslo specs_matcher, will the ironic-lib patches work? | 17:11 |
| jlvillal | heh | 17:11 |
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| dtantsur | jlvillal, I'd love to unblock the stable gate, so yes | 17:12 |
| lucasagomes | rloo, we could workaround that space problem by having an extra method that normalizes the string using urllib.parse.quote | 17:12 |
| jlvillal | Okay | 17:12 |
| lucasagomes | rloo, but it's really a workaround :-/ | 17:12 |
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| rloo | lucasagomes: well, let me/us know what/if we should bother reviewing/getting those ironic-lib patches in this week. | 17:13 |
| devananda | I did a bunch of doc work last week. there's not a spot on the 'pad to note it, but it will change the landing page, so I want to call attention to it here | 17:13 |
| devananda | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/356788/ | 17:13 |
| rloo | devananda: but the landing page URL is the same, right? | 17:13 |
| lucasagomes | rloo, yeah, I will do | 17:13 |
| devananda | rloo: yes | 17:13 |
| rloo | devananda: and the links from the old landing page will still work? | 17:13 |
| devananda | rloo: yes :) | 17:14 |
| devananda | rloo: see http://docs-draft.openstack.org/88/356788/3/check/gate-ironic-docs-ubuntu-xenial/ca94c68//doc/build/html/ | 17:14 |
| lucasagomes | rloo, thanks for volunteering to review it btw :-) | 17:14 |
| rloo | lucasagomes: yw :) | 17:14 |
| devananda | I didn't break any links - just made the frontpage layout more clear, with more words and sections | 17:14 |
| rloo | devananda: ok, will comment in patch. (i think we had admin first cuz that stuff isn't in official openstack docs) | 17:14 |
| rloo | nice work on inspector, dtantsur et al | 17:15 |
| devananda | rloo: sure, please do. I also changed the order intentionally, because this is developer docs. and the TOC on the left makes it easy to find the admin guide now, and there's a note in the intro about admin docs. | 17:15 |
| rloo | devananda: will do :) | 17:16 |
| dtantsur | rloo, thanks :) most of the credit for inspector grenade work goes to milan and folks who did the ironic grenade work | 17:16 |
| jroll | ++, thank you all for that | 17:17 |
| jroll | and thank you deva for the awesome doc updates, I'll re-review that this week | 17:17 |
| devananda | jroll: thanks | 17:17 |
| vgadiraj | devananda: I can take a look at the docs patch as well | 17:17 |
| devananda | I am hoping we can land the api-ref update soon as well | 17:17 |
| devananda | it's been up for a while, and if anyone hsa more feedback, I'd really prefer to do thta in a follow up | 17:18 |
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| jroll | things I want to land this week: deva's doc update, api-ref update, anything in ironic-lib, osc things for the client | 17:18 |
| devananda | our keystone and agent vendor work (both on the N-2 milestone must-have list) include an update to the api-ref as part of the work, which is not yet landed | 17:18 |
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| jroll | exactly :) | 17:19 |
| jroll | anything else on this topic? | 17:19 |
| jroll | I'm going to do a quick one not on the agenda | 17:20 |
| jroll | #topic summit session allocations | 17:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "summit session allocations (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:20 | |
| jroll | so thierry reached out to PTLs and asked how many slots everyone needs | 17:20 |
| jroll | a couple changes this round | 17:20 |
| jroll | workroom and fishbowls are happening Wednesday 4pm to Friday noon | 17:20 |
| jroll | and the usual friday contributor meetups are only friday afternoon | 17:20 |
| jroll | there are less slots than austin, and more teams | 17:21 |
| jroll | so we should cut back from last time if possible | 17:21 |
| jroll | last time we had 5 fishbowls, 5 workrooms, and half day contributor meetup | 17:21 |
| jroll | I'd propose 4/3/half | 17:22 |
| jroll | (assuming people can stick around for friday afternoon | 17:22 |
| jroll | ) | 17:22 |
| TheJulia | That sounds reasonable | 17:22 |
| jroll | agree/disagree/throw things at me now | 17:22 |
| rloo | jroll: remind me again (cuz i always ask). fishbowl == big audience, workroom == design? | 17:22 |
| devananda | in the past, folks often left on friday afternoon, so perhaps we should encourage folks to avoid that? | 17:22 |
| jroll | rloo: correct | 17:22 |
| devananda | rloo: yes | 17:22 |
| clarkb | devananda: conference also starts on tuesday so you get a day back at the beginning of the week (may make friday more tolerable) | 17:23 |
| rloo | i can't recall, but i thought the workrooms were more productive. I'll need to review what we did last summit. | 17:23 |
| jroll | I could also deal with 3/4/half | 17:23 |
| krtaylor | seems reasonable - we can shift QA/CI to a breakout in Fri contributor like we did in Austin | 17:23 |
| devananda | jroll: I have often found the workrooms more productive than the fishbowls | 17:23 |
| jroll | assuming we can keep non-contributors out of the workrooms | 17:23 |
| devananda | jroll: 3/4/half would get my vote | 17:23 |
| jroll | some of them got pretty full :) | 17:23 |
| vdrok | is the contributor meetup going to be around 2pm-6pm? | 17:23 |
| lucasagomes | rloo, I agree yeah | 17:23 |
| jroll | vdrok: I don't have times yet - I'd assume 1pm-5pm or so? | 17:23 |
| devananda | clarkb: noted | 17:24 |
| jroll | in the afternoon, in any case | 17:24 |
| vdrok | hm, I'll have to leave around 4pm :( | 17:24 |
| rloo | jroll: fri AM is probably workroom/fishbowls? | 17:24 |
| jroll | rloo: yes, "workroom and fishbowls are happening Wednesday 4pm to Friday noon" | 17:24 |
| rloo | jroll: sorry, missed that. wow, 4pm wed... | 17:25 |
| devananda | jroll: starting at 4pm wed? that's odd | 17:25 |
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| jroll | keep in mind cross-project is before that | 17:25 |
| rloo | i'm guessing x-project will be before that on wed | 17:25 |
| jroll | from the email: | 17:25 |
| jroll | - Ops summit on Tuesday morning until 4pm | 17:25 |
| jroll | - Cross-project workshops from Tuesday 4pm to Wednesday 4pm | 17:25 |
| jroll | - Fishbowl/Workroom sessions from Wednesday 4pm to Friday noon | 17:25 |
| jroll | - Contributors meetups on Friday afternoon | 17:25 |
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| jroll | also, as a reminder, ocata is only 5 months long, here's the proposed schedule: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/357214/ | 17:26 |
| * dtantsur would prefer to think about topic first | 17:26 | |
| devananda | since Ocata is also going to be a shorter cycle, I think it will be fine to have fewer slots and focus on work we can accomplish in that time, rather than new design work | 17:27 |
| rloo | i'm fine asking for 7 sessions, fishbowl or workroom. if we don't know the topics, maybe it is safer to ask for 4/3 as jroll proposed. we can design in fishbowl too. | 17:27 |
| jroll | I'm meant to let thierry know by august 31, btw | 17:27 |
| rloo | jroll: so we can decide aug 30? | 17:28 |
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| rloo | jroll: or err next Mon meeting? | 17:28 |
| jroll | rloo: yeah, we can | 17:28 |
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| rloo | are we ready to ask for topics for summit? | 17:28 |
| jroll | I guess everyone go think about it and we'll decide next meeting :) | 17:29 |
| rloo | that can help inform our decision next week | 17:29 |
| thiagop | makes sense | 17:29 |
| devananda | jroll: how many total session slots are there in the timeframe of wed afternoon - friday noon? | 17:29 |
| jroll | rloo: probably | 17:29 |
| jroll | devananda: I do not know | 17:29 |
| devananda | my recollection from past summits is that there were 8 per day | 17:29 |
| jroll | so probably 14-15 total, then? (2-3 + 8 + 4) | 17:30 |
| devananda | given this schedule, it sounds like 2 on Wed, 8 on Thu, 3 on Fri. | 17:30 |
| devananda | yea ... something like that | 17:30 |
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| jroll | at any rate, let's make a decision next week | 17:31 |
| rloo | so maybe 7 is too many, given the number of projects. | 17:31 |
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| jroll | rloo: could you kick a ML thread with an etherpad for topic suggestions? | 17:31 |
| rloo | jroll: sure | 17:31 |
| jroll | thanks | 17:31 |
| * rloo wants to practise kicking | 17:31 | |
| jroll | and everyone promise to noodle on this for a bit :) | 17:32 |
| jroll | shall we move on? | 17:32 |
| mat128 | rloo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXhfikJzQ4w | 17:32 |
| jroll | #topic open discussion | 17:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:32 | |
| rloo | mat128: :) | 17:32 |
| jroll | I just have one thing here, I'll be out from (end of meeting) through wednesday (back thursday) | 17:32 |
| jroll | dtantsur will be handling releases while I'm gone | 17:33 |
| rloo | jroll: today's meeting? | 17:33 |
| jroll | ping me on hangouts if you need something :) | 17:33 |
| jroll | rloo: yep! | 17:33 |
| * jroll heading to mackinac island for a couple days | 17:33 | |
| rloo | jroll: enjoy! | 17:33 |
| thiagop | As some of you may know, I've been trying to remove our tests from tempest. | 17:33 |
| lucasagomes | jroll, enjoy the days off | 17:33 |
| jroll | thanks :) | 17:33 |
| devananda | I'm attending OSE and the ops midcycle this week, so will be only partly available. | 17:34 |
| vsaienk01 | I've prepared a spec https://review.openstack.org/343684 and PoC https://review.openstack.org/345963 for Neutron notifications | 17:34 |
| vsaienk01 | can we start reviewing them? :) | 17:34 |
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| thiagop | mrtreinish has asked me to change the approach from "this is not supported because ironic is available" to "ironic is not supported with this feature" or something | 17:34 |
| jroll | vsaienk01: I'd prefer focusing on priorities for the next couple weeks :) | 17:35 |
| thiagop | I had to move some sticks on devstack to make it happen, so I'd love if some of you take a look to check if https://review.openstack.org/#/c/358116/ makes sense | 17:35 |
| devananda | vsaienk01: is this a necessary part of the newton planned integration work? | 17:35 |
| thiagop | jlvillal: specially you^ | 17:35 |
| thiagop | :) | 17:35 |
| thiagop | grenade may not be happy | 17:35 |
| NobodyCam | anyone happen to know if Shivanand is planning on pushing up a new rev of 225115? | 17:36 |
| vsaienk01 | devananda: I don't think so, It is a separate task, with multitenancy it is specially actual | 17:36 |
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| devananda | thiagop: this moves to using tempest-lib and putting the tests in ironic, yes? | 17:36 |
| jlvillal | thiagop: okay | 17:36 |
| * devananda actually looks at the patches now | 17:36 | |
| vsaienk01 | since port binding with multitenancy may take a lot of time, and failure rate is much higher I think | 17:36 |
| thiagop | devananda: in fact, I'm just removing the old BaremetalBasicOps from tempest | 17:37 |
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| devananda | thiagop: is there another / newer tempest test covers that functionality? | 17:37 |
| thiagop | devananda: it's very out of date with what we have in the plugin | 17:37 |
| jroll | devananda: there's no moving of tests, only removing all of the ironic-specific things from tempest's tree | 17:38 |
| lucasagomes | NobodyCam, no idea, I think it would be ok to fix the current comments and add a patch-set ourselves | 17:38 |
| thiagop | devananda: those are on the plugin for a while now | 17:38 |
| lucasagomes | NobodyCam, it's nothing majo | 17:38 |
| lucasagomes | major* | 17:38 |
| jroll | devananda: deleting the things in the plugin, and deleting all the "if ironic is enabled" hacks | 17:38 |
| lucasagomes | there's nothing major* | 17:38 |
| devananda | thiagop: ah, I see | 17:38 |
| NobodyCam | yea, I push up a fix so it can land if he's away | 17:38 |
| thiagop | jroll: no test moving, just some configs (on 355591) | 17:38 |
| NobodyCam | s/I/I'll/ | 17:39 |
| jroll | thiagop: yep :) | 17:39 |
| thiagop | jroll: my doubts are around if it makes sense to disable the features I disabled in devstack if Ironic is present | 17:39 |
| jroll | thiagop: okay, I'd normally take a look but am leaving after this meeting, hopefully some others can | 17:40 |
| thiagop | if so, then I'll move to the next step | 17:40 |
| jroll | JayF isn't here yet but will be later and is a good candidate | 17:40 |
| thiagop | jroll: sure, have a good trip :) | 17:40 |
| jroll | :) | 17:40 |
| jroll | anyone have other things? | 17:41 |
| jroll | alright, thanks for joining :) | 17:42 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 17:42 |
| jroll | #endmeeting | 17:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:42 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 22 17:42:36 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:42 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2016/ironic.2016-08-22-17.00.html | 17:42 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2016/ironic.2016-08-22-17.00.txt | 17:42 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2016/ironic.2016-08-22-17.00.log.html | 17:42 |
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