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tidwellr | hi | 15:00 |
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pavel_bondar | hi | 15:00 |
john-davidge | hey | 15:00 |
carl_baldwin | Hi | 15:01 |
tidwellr | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 15:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 21 15:01:02 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tidwellr. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3' | 15:01 |
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tidwellr | #chair carl_baldwin mlavalle | 15:01 |
openstack | Current chairs: carl_baldwin mlavalle tidwellr | 15:01 |
mlavalle | o/ | 15:01 |
tidwellr | #topic Annpuncements | 15:01 |
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tidwellr | neutron mid-cycle is coming up | 15:02 |
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tidwellr | any more annoncements? | 15:03 |
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tidwellr | if not, let's dive in | 15:04 |
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tidwellr | #topic Bugs | 15:05 |
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tidwellr | working from the bottom of the list | 15:05 |
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tidwellr | oh, by the way the agenda is here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-l3-subteam | 15:05 |
tidwellr | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1603162 | 15:06 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1603162 in neutron "IP deallocation failed on external system with pluggable IPAM" [High,New] - Assigned to Pavel Bondar (pasha117) | 15:06 |
pavel_bondar | hi | 15:06 |
carl_baldwin | pavel_bondar: any progress? | 15:06 |
tidwellr | pavel_bondar carl_baldwin: This looks new, any updates? | 15:06 |
pavel_bondar | not much progress yet on my side | 15:07 |
mlavalle | yeah, pavel_bondar filed it a few minutes ago | 15:07 |
pavel_bondar | mlavalle: that is another one | 15:07 |
mlavalle | ok | 15:07 |
pavel_bondar | one that I filed is: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1605277 | 15:07 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1605277 in neutron "[IPAM] 'Internal' ipam driver does not allow to delete all pools on subnet update" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Pavel Bondar (pasha117) | 15:07 |
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pavel_bondar | as for 1603162, no progress yet, but I will pick it as my next task | 15:08 |
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carl_baldwin | pavel_bondar: let me know if you want help | 15:08 |
tidwellr | pavel_bondar: thanks for the update on these | 15:09 |
pavel_bondar | carl_baldwin: sure, as I got for now this ticket is about writing UT to cover rollback case and emulating db transaction breakage | 15:10 |
pavel_bondar | is it correct? | 15:10 |
carl_baldwin | pavel_bondar: yes | 15:10 |
pavel_bondar | carl_baldwin: ok, will try to do soon | 15:10 |
pavel_bondar | that is it from my side about this ticket | 15:11 |
tidwellr | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1600530 | 15:11 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1600530 in neutron "Part 2 of engine DB facade breaks metadata agent" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Henry Gessau (gessau) | 15:11 |
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tidwellr | looks like a fix is already in | 15:13 |
mlavalle | I think that one should be closed now | 15:13 |
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tidwellr | ok | 15:13 |
mlavalle | I'll move it to fix released | 15:13 |
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tidwellr | mlavalle: thanks, I moved it off the agenda | 15:14 |
tidwellr | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1599329 | 15:14 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1599329 in neutron "Potential regression on handing over DHCP addresses to VMs" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Kevin Benton (kevinbenton) | 15:14 |
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tidwellr | looks like kevinbenton and ajo are on this one | 15:15 |
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carl_baldwin | I haven't low at the proposed fix yet. | 15:15 |
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mlavalle | well, it seems more like they are researching it | 15:16 |
carl_baldwin | *looked | 15:16 |
mlavalle | kevinbenton proposed a fix but was then abandoned | 15:17 |
carl_baldwin | mlavalle: could be | 15:17 |
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tidwellr | I see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/344545/, but it has a sticky -2 while someone does their due diligence | 15:17 |
mlavalle | and ajo reported some research results just 15 minutes ago | 15:17 |
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tidwellr | ok, anything else to add? | 15:20 |
tidwellr | if not we can move on and take an action item to follow this one | 15:20 |
tidwellr | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1596075 | 15:20 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1596075 in neutron "Neutron confused about overlapping subnet creation" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Kevin Benton (kevinbenton) | 15:20 |
tidwellr | looks like we have a fix for this one | 15:21 |
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mlavalle | yeah, but kevinbenton is asking the reported to do some things, right above the merge | 15:22 |
mlavalle | so I say let's keep as is and keep an eye on it | 15:22 |
mlavalle | the fix might be partial | 15:22 |
tidwellr | ah, partial fix | 15:23 |
mlavalle | I would like to hear back from the reporter | 15:23 |
tidwellr | definitely | 15:23 |
tidwellr | keep watching this one then | 15:23 |
tidwellr | ok, I think we've worked through the bugs. Are there any I missed that need to be discussed? | 15:25 |
mlavalle | Yes I want to add one | 15:25 |
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mlavalle | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1604370 | 15:25 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1604370 in neutron "functional: test_legacy_router_ns_rebuild is unstable" [High,New] | 15:25 |
mlavalle | I just raised its importance to high | 15:25 |
mlavalle | there are 17 ocurrences over the past 7 days | 15:26 |
mlavalle | so it warrants further investigation | 15:26 |
mlavalle | I will dig in later today | 15:26 |
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tidwellr | malvalle: thanks, I've added that to the etherpad | 15:27 |
mlavalle | thanks | 15:27 |
carl_baldwin | mlavalle: thanks for staying on top of it | 15:27 |
tidwellr | any more bugs to discuss? | 15:27 |
pavel_bondar | one that I filed today: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1605277 | 15:28 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1605277 in neutron "[IPAM] 'Internal' ipam driver does not allow to delete all pools on subnet update" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Pavel Bondar (pasha117) | 15:28 |
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pavel_bondar | this one was found during analysing test failures for migration to pluggable ipam | 15:28 |
* john-davidge was just reading that one | 15:28 | |
pavel_bondar | I have proposed fix for it: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/345498/ | 15:29 |
carl_baldwin | pavel_bondar: good find | 15:29 |
carl_baldwin | I was starting to look in to that failure yesterday myself | 15:29 |
carl_baldwin | Will look at your fix. | 15:30 |
pavel_bondar | carl_baldwin: great, thanks | 15:30 |
pavel_bondar | fix is pretty trivial by the way | 15:30 |
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pavel_bondar | that is probably it about it | 15:31 |
tidwellr | pavel_bondar: thanks for the update, we like easy fixes :) | 15:31 |
mlavalle | by all means | 15:31 |
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pavel_bondar | :) | 15:31 |
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tidwellr | #topic Routed Network Segments | 15:31 |
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tidwellr | carl_baldwin mlavalle: what do you have cooking at the moment? | 15:32 |
carl_baldwin | I have a plan now with nova to get the deferred ip fix to merge. Discussed it with them yesterday. | 15:32 |
mlavalle | ++ | 15:33 |
carl_baldwin | It is official that we won't have ip availability aware scheduling in Newton. | 15:33 |
tidwellr | :(, good progress was still made though | 15:34 |
carl_baldwin | Yes, we've done a ton of work | 15:34 |
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tidwellr | carl_baldwin: thanks, anything else? | 15:36 |
carl_baldwin | Just keep plugging away. We'll have something workable in Newton. | 15:37 |
tidwellr | carl_baldwin: sounds good | 15:37 |
tidwellr | #topic FWaaS | 15:38 |
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njohnston | Hi | 15:38 |
njohnston | So the first part of the agent work is complete and merged: https://review.openstack.org/329701 | 15:38 |
njohnston | thanks to all who helped with that | 15:38 |
njohnston | but that was just making the l2 code generalized and available to the l3 agent | 15:39 |
njohnston | the second step is creating the intermediate classes necessary for an l3 agent extension to run: L3 agent extension implementation: https://review.openstack.org/337699 | 15:39 |
njohnston | I am starting to test that out now | 15:39 |
njohnston | I will file a follow-up patch with a fullstack test to really test it out | 15:40 |
njohnston | The fullstack test creates a dummy l3 agent extension and loads it and then sends some router add/update/delete messages to the agent. The extension communicates back over a TCP socket to say "I was called with X payload" so the test can verify the extension was called correctly. | 15:40 |
njohnston | but I don't want to hold up 337699 while I work out the complexities of that | 15:40 |
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carl_baldwin | njohnston: ack | 15:41 |
njohnston | There are a couple of people working on the actual FWaaS l3 agent extension (mfranc213 and yushiro) and that is coming along. | 15:41 |
njohnston | I am still optimistic that we will make Newton in good form | 15:41 |
tidwellr | njohnston: very nice, thanks for the update. Is there any help you need at the moment? | 15:42 |
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njohnston | No, nothing per se... I think once I can get the l3 agent extension to really work, then I think it's just left for things to start plugging into it. | 15:43 |
njohnston | Perhaps in a week I will be ready for reviews on 337699 | 15:43 |
tidwellr | njohnston: great | 15:44 |
tidwellr | njohnston: anything to share with the team? | 15:44 |
tidwellr | *else | 15:44 |
njohnston | Nope, that's it got me | 15:44 |
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njohnston | s/got/for/ | 15:44 |
tidwellr | njohnston: :) | 15:45 |
tidwellr | topic BGP Dynamic Routing | 15:45 |
njohnston | ^^ #? | 15:45 |
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tidwellr | oh yeah | 15:45 |
njohnston | :) | 15:46 |
steve_ruan | Tidwellrm | 15:46 |
steve_ruan | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/337662/ | 15:46 |
tidwellr | #topic BGP Dynamic Routing | 15:46 |
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steve_ruan | this patch need some help review | 15:46 |
steve_ruan | Hi tidwellr | 15:46 |
tidwellr | steve_ruan: I saw that this morning | 15:46 |
tidwellr | it had subnetpools in the title so it caught my attention :) | 15:47 |
steve_ruan | this patch has a small change about subnetpool event | 15:47 |
steve_ruan | thanks | 15:47 |
tidwellr | steve_ruan: I can give that a look | 15:47 |
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tidwellr | steve_ruan: how is everything else going, any updates to share? | 15:48 |
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steve_ruan | still working on evpn advertisement | 15:48 |
steve_ruan | almost finished | 15:48 |
steve_ruan | will submit soon | 15:48 |
tidwellr | steve_ruan: I see the code starting to be proposed, how is the spec doing? I haven't seen any updates for a while | 15:49 |
mickeys | tidwellr: I think the spec is in decent shape. Needs more reviews. | 15:49 |
steve_ruan | there is no more doubt about the spec, right? | 15:50 |
tidwellr | mickeys: my apologies, I'm drowning here. I missed the updated patch set almost 2 weeks ago | 15:51 |
tidwellr | #action tidwellr to look over https://review.openstack.org/#/c/322654/ | 15:51 |
tidwellr | I was able to get the tempest tests in neutron-dynamic-routing cleaned up and running in the check jobs | 15:52 |
tidwellr | I'm now more comfortable with code being proposed against the project now, the next step is to just make that job a voting job | 15:53 |
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tidwellr | mickeys steve_ruan: anything else to add? | 15:54 |
steve_ruan | no | 15:54 |
mickeys | Nothing else from me | 15:54 |
tidwellr | #topic Open Discussion | 15:54 |
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john-davidge | The Service Subnets patch has been updated since yesterday https://review.openstack.org/#/c/337851/ | 15:55 |
john-davidge | Thanks to everyone for the reviews | 15:55 |
tidwellr | john-davidge: sweet, I didn't realize that was up for review | 15:55 |
john-davidge | tidwellr: It's in pretty good shape now I think | 15:55 |
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john-davidge | Once the positive reviews start appearing I'll get started on the follow-up for the port creation logic | 15:56 |
carl_baldwin | john-davidge: thanks | 15:56 |
carl_baldwin | john-davidge: As I recall it was pretty close. I'll have a look today. | 15:56 |
john-davidge | carl_baldwin: Thanks Carl, your reviews have been very helpful! | 15:57 |
tidwellr | anything else to discuss? | 15:57 |
carl_baldwin | Thanks, tidwellr ! | 15:58 |
tidwellr | alright, let's call it a meeting then | 15:58 |
tidwellr | thanks everyone! | 15:58 |
tidwellr | #endmeeting | 15:58 |
mlavalle | thanks | 15:58 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 21 15:58:54 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:58 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2016/neutron_l3.2016-07-21-15.01.html | 15:58 |
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openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2016/neutron_l3.2016-07-21-15.01.txt | 15:58 |
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etoews | #startmeeting api wg | 16:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 21 16:00:05 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is etoews. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'api_wg' | 16:00 |
etoews | #chair cdent elmiko etoews | 16:00 |
openstack | Warning: Nick not in channel: cdent | 16:00 |
openstack | Warning: Nick not in channel: elmiko | 16:00 |
openstack | Current chairs: cdent elmiko etoews | 16:00 |
etoews | heh. this might be a short one. :) | 16:00 |
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etoews | okay. i'm callin it. i think we'll pass on doing a newsletter this week too. not much new that i'm aware of. see you next week! | 16:09 |
etoews | #endmeeting | 16:09 |
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openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2016/api_wg.2016-07-21-16.00.html | 16:09 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2016/api_wg.2016-07-21-16.00.txt | 16:09 |
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docaedo | Courtesy ping mfedosin kfox1111 kzaitsev_ws igormarnat_ sslypushenko sskripnick olaph | 17:00 |
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igormarnat_ | o/ | 17:01 |
docaedo | #startmeeting app-catalog | 17:01 |
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openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
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mfedosin | o/ | 17:01 |
kzaitsev_mb | o/ | 17:01 |
sskripnick | sup | 17:01 |
docaedo | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/app-catalog#Proposed_Agenda_for_July_21st.2C_2016_.281700_UTC.29 Agenda | 17:01 |
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docaedo | #topic Mascot! | 17:01 |
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docaedo | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/app-catalog-mascot | 17:01 |
docaedo | That etherpad seems to have died, does it work for anyone else? | 17:02 |
sskripnick | nope | 17:02 |
mfedosin | mine doesn't open | 17:02 |
kzaitsev_mb | -1 | 17:02 |
igormarnat_ | Frankly, I didn't look into it | 17:02 |
docaedo | damn, last I saw we had quokka which was pretty obscure, a kangaroo with its pouch full of apps, and a "cat" for "cat"alog | 17:03 |
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docaedo | igormarnat_: how could you miss that? It's the most important thing to deal with this cycle! | 17:03 |
olaph | o/ | 17:03 |
docaedo | :P | 17:03 |
mfedosin | I vote for cat | 17:03 |
kzaitsev_mb | there's still time before 27th | 17:04 |
kzaitsev_mb | less than a week though to cast the votes =) | 17:04 |
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docaedo | did anyone else suggest any other animals? If not, I can send out a poll | 17:05 |
docaedo | or easier, I'll just respond to the ML thread I started with the link to the etherpad that's disappeared into the ether | 17:05 |
docaedo | I'll move on, better things to disuss | 17:06 |
docaedo | #topic Glare API status (sskripnick) | 17:06 |
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sskripnick | http://r-ci.tk:8100/ | 17:06 |
sskripnick | this demo site is working with glare 1.0 backend and angular based frontend | 17:06 |
sskripnick | here is the patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/344436/ | 17:07 |
mfedosin | and it's awesome! | 17:07 |
igormarnat_ | docaedo: I'll vote for cangaroo:) | 17:07 |
mfedosin | docaedo: btw, I was wrong about 29th of July | 17:07 |
mfedosin | feature freeze in Glance will be on 30th of August | 17:08 |
docaedo | sskripnick: looking good and getting there! but no links to assets, and magic-search is gone? | 17:08 |
mfedosin | 29th is just a spec freeze (glare spec is already merged) | 17:08 |
sskripnick | only artifact listing is implemented, but I can show you more on next meeting | 17:08 |
sskripnick | I just want some feedback | 17:09 |
sskripnick | Will be glad to see some -1' :) | 17:09 |
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docaedo | sskripnick: great, I will do that today for sure | 17:10 |
sskripnick | thanks | 17:10 |
docaedo | #action Aedo promises to review and provide feedback on http://r-ci.tk:8100/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/344436/ | 17:10 |
mfedosin | we discussed it with igormarnat_ today | 17:10 |
docaedo | oh, on the app-catalog channel? I missed that. | 17:10 |
mfedosin | we decided that it's good if I join the development of app-catalog | 17:11 |
docaedo | sure that'd be great | 17:11 |
mfedosin | no, just personal | 17:11 |
docaedo | :) | 17:11 |
mfedosin | because all glare code is implemented and big features won't be added in next month | 17:11 |
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mfedosin | I can concentrate on app-catalog fully and help to make it done more operatively | 17:12 |
docaedo | that's great, thanks - please try to discuss ongoing development in #openstack-app-catalog and I'll be able to get more focus as well in the coming weeks | 17:13 |
mfedosin | sure! will do | 17:14 |
docaedo | awesome .. | 17:15 |
docaedo | Any other updates on this topic? | 17:15 |
sskripnick | nope | 17:16 |
docaedo | #topic Open discussion | 17:16 |
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docaedo | igormarnat_ or anyone else have anything to update or discuss today? | 17:16 |
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kzaitsev_mb | sskripnick: feel free to grab out angular code for adding new assets and publishing drafts https://review.openstack.org/#/c/293644/ this commit and others in the queue | 17:16 |
kzaitsev_mb | I hope they would be more or less easy to re-use | 17:16 |
igormarnat_ | Not from me, just listening:) | 17:16 |
sskripnick | kzaitsev_mb: cool. thanks | 17:16 |
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kzaitsev_mb | while you'll obviously would have to change the urls for v1.0 %) | 17:17 |
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docaedo | OK I think we're done then? I didn't have anything to add, just really happy to see such great progress from sskripnick | 17:24 |
docaedo | and looking forward to working more with mfedosin too | 17:24 |
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docaedo | hopefully you guys will be able to make it to Barcelona | 17:24 |
igormarnat_ | We hope too:) | 17:24 |
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mfedosin | docaedo: +1 | 17:25 |
igormarnat_ | docaedo: please prioritize review of implementation of new backend, we need to switch the sooner the better, current implementation blocks many initiatives | 17:25 |
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docaedo | igormarnat_: yep, next week I'm traveling for work again, but I should be able to mix in more time starting today, and after next week should be able to focus on it | 17:26 |
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igormarnat_ | thanks everybody, have a good one! TTYL :) | 17:27 |
docaedo | There's a 50/50 chance for no meeting next week (I don't think I'll be able to chair), but if anyone really wants it we can adjust, just speak up on the mailing list | 17:27 |
docaedo | yep, thanks everyone! | 17:27 |
olaph | thanks! | 17:27 |
mfedosin | thanks folks | 17:27 |
docaedo | #endmeeting | 17:27 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 21 17:27:47 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:27 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/app_catalog/2016/app_catalog.2016-07-21-17.01.html | 17:27 |
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SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: hi | 18:01 |
rkukura | hi SumitNaiksatam | 18:01 |
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SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: seems like not too many people around today | 18:01 |
SumitNaiksatam | #startmeeting networking_policy | 18:01 |
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openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:01 |
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SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: nothing much on my side today | 18:02 |
SumitNaiksatam | anything you wanted to discuss? | 18:02 |
rkukura | same here - working on apic_aim MD, reviewing your stuff, etc. | 18:03 |
SumitNaiksatam | oh yeah, good point about the spec | 18:03 |
rkukura | is there an update to your address scope spec? | 18:03 |
SumitNaiksatam | i guess we could have discussed that if there were more people | 18:03 |
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SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: hi there :-) | 18:03 |
tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: hi! :) | 18:03 |
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SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: updated the spec yesterday after the discussion with you and the rest of the team | 18:04 |
SumitNaiksatam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/343929/ | 18:04 |
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rkukura | ok, I’ll re-review | 18:04 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: thanks | 18:05 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: one more thing | 18:05 |
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rkukura | for the record, my personal view is that GBP should stay as close to Neutron as possible, adding only what is absolutely needed, and avoiding need to constrain Neutron resources used by GBP | 18:05 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i was thinking of having a integration job for AIM | 18:05 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: okay | 18:06 |
rkukura | nothing new on that, just figured I’d mention it here | 18:06 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: okay | 18:06 |
rkukura | so how would this integration job work? | 18:06 |
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SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: integration job meaning devstack based like how we have for nfp, rally | 18:06 |
rkukura | Would it use an APIC fabric? | 18:06 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: no, it would exercise the AIM layer | 18:07 |
rkukura | So no data plane | 18:07 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: right | 18:07 |
rkukura | Ideally, we’d have a 3rd party CI that runs against an ACI fabric | 18:08 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: right, and that would be a separate job | 18:08 |
rkukura | But are you proposing one that’s hosted in OpenStack? | 18:08 |
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SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i am proposing a devstack based job that runs against the AIM layer, no dataplane, triggered by openstack infra | 18:10 |
rkukura | makes sense, but what test suite would it run? | 18:10 |
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SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: to begin with it could just be the same exercise script that runs in our other integration job (no service chain stuff), and perhaps also some functional tests from jishnu’s test suite | 18:11 |
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SumitNaiksatam | we are already using jishnu’s test suite for the CRUD operations in the other integration job | 18:12 |
rkukura | OK. Would it do anything to verify the AIM layer? | 18:12 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: probably not to begin with | 18:12 |
rkukura | guess we could add that | 18:12 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: if nothing else it would at least verify our devstack setup end to end :-) | 18:12 |
rkukura | makes sense to me | 18:13 |
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SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: okay | 18:13 |
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rkukura | I usually run the UTs before pushing a patch, but not always devstack, so this would help prevent breakage | 18:13 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: so we would have to do this like we did it with NFP | 18:13 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: right | 18:13 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: actually that is currently my main motivation | 18:14 |
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SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i will post a patch to first create the hooks in GBP, lets get that merged | 18:14 |
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rkukura | +1 | 18:15 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: then we can post a patch to openstack project-config | 18:15 |
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SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: and once that is merged we can come back to tuning the hooks on the GBP side | 18:15 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: okay | 18:15 |
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SumitNaiksatam | thats pretty much it from me today | 18:16 |
rkukura | so would there be some initial tests, or just the devstack deploy? | 18:16 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: it would run the gbp exercise script which will do basic crud operations with GBP resources | 18:16 |
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SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: it might not pass to beging with (but it will be a non-voting job anyway) | 18:17 |
rkukura | I wonder if there are Neutron API excercises we should also run? | 18:17 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: that would be a good idea too | 18:17 |
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SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: at some point we could just run neutron tempest tests | 18:18 |
rkukura | Don’t those require the data plane? | 18:18 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i mean the API ones | 18:18 |
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rkukura | that’s what I was thinking of | 18:18 |
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hemanthravi | rkukura: can you review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327033 again, ashutosh has addressed your earlier comments | 18:18 |
rkukura | sure | 18:19 |
hemanthravi | thanks | 18:19 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: regarding your question in the patch on why we are not allowing non-shared L2P on shared L3P | 18:19 |
rkukura | I’m a bit confused on this one | 18:19 |
rkukura | If its just the neutron user getting its own (service) tenant_id, I don’t see a need to use different authtoken stuff | 18:20 |
rkukura | Originally it needed admin rights, but as I understand it, now it doesn’t. | 18:20 |
rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: Please go ahead regarding the sharing! | 18:21 |
hemanthravi | admin role is required not for this check, but in other methods that plug interfaces into tenant netoworks | 18:21 |
hemanthravi | i thought we can merge this check now and address the addition of a different user in a subsequent changeset | 18:21 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: the check in the code is to ensure that the L2P tenant is the same as the L3P tenant | 18:21 |
rkukura | hemanthravi: Agreed that should use other credentials | 18:22 |
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igordcard | hi all, just a quick update as I need to drop off now, expect updates on the QoS patch by monday | 18:22 |
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SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: for the resource mapping driver, my understanding is that the neutron rendering might not be possible if the L2P was in a different tenant from that of the L3P | 18:22 |
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hemanthravi | rkukura: would like to merge this for the end of the month release and address the new user independntly as it affect other code | 18:22 |
SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: great, thanks for the update | 18:23 |
SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: i will be on vacation, but will check as soon as i am back | 18:23 |
igordcard | SumitNaiksatam: okay, thanks | 18:23 |
rkukura | hemanthravi: The patch looks good to me now - I’ll re-review soon. | 18:23 |
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SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: but i will make sure i alert the other team members as well | 18:23 |
hemanthravi | thanks, also noticed packstack by default adds admin role to neutron user | 18:24 |
rkukura | hemanthravi: interesting | 18:24 |
SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: ah thats interesting | 18:24 |
rkukura | I wonder if RHEL OSP Director does as well? | 18:24 |
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SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: good work digging that, if other distros also do the same thing, it almost becomes the standard thing! | 18:25 |
hemanthravi | will check on that | 18:25 |
songole | SumitNaiksatam: but, devstack just adds neutron as a member. It adds heat and nova as admin.. | 18:26 |
SumitNaiksatam | songole: ah okay | 18:26 |
songole | packstack adds all as admin | 18:26 |
rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: It would be good to eventually see if we really need to constrain the L2P to be the same project as the L3P. It seems useful to share the L3P more widely. | 18:26 |
SumitNaiksatam | songole: interesting that it would add nova | 18:26 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: note that the check is in the resource mapping driver | 18:26 |
rkukura | If we really can’t share the L3P more widely than the L2P, then this might be an argument to think of the AS being a higher level that is shared more widely. | 18:27 |
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rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: I’m never sure what parts of the RMD are used by the AMD(s) | 18:27 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: the constraint is not in the API or the model | 18:27 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: perhaps with neutron RBAC model on networks there is a way to do this, but we havent explored | 18:28 |
rkukura | AMD = [APIC|AIM] Mapping Driver | 18:28 |
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hemanthravi | was trying to figure out AMD :) | 18:29 |
rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: There could definely be a good reason for the contraint, and if so, I agree RBAC might allow relaxing it. | 18:29 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i love AMD, i knew a 3-letter acro was cooking up! :-) | 18:29 |
tbachman | MD == Mechanism Driver && Mapping Driver :) | 18:29 |
rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: What is your PTO schedule? | 18:29 |
SumitNaiksatam | gone for a week starting tomorrow | 18:30 |
rkukura | tbachman: The “mapping drivers” are usually referred to as PDs (policy drivers) | 18:30 |
tbachman | ah | 18:30 |
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* tbachman will get the hang of neutron lingo soon… ;) | 18:30 | |
rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: OK, you had told me about that last week - just wasn’t sure of the dates | 18:30 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: but i like tbachman’s interpretation to cover both | 18:30 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: that way AMD covers the PD, MD and AIM | 18:31 |
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rkukura | OK, I’ll use APD and AMD from now on | 18:31 |
rkukura | So AMD is [APIC|AIM] Mechanism Driver | 18:32 |
rkukura | no wonder tbachman gets confused | 18:32 |
tbachman | lol | 18:32 |
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tbachman | rkukura: I’m always confused. | 18:32 |
SumitNaiksatam | :-( AMD was a good way to describe the whole solution | 18:32 |
tbachman | rkukura: just don’t use the word “context" | 18:32 |
SumitNaiksatam | anyway | 18:32 |
SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: lol | 18:32 |
rkukura | At least the two-letter acronyms MD, ED, and PD are mostly unambiguous | 18:32 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura is hands-down the best 3-letter acronymyst! | 18:33 |
rkukura | I’m a 3LA? | 18:33 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: there you go! :-) | 18:34 |
SumitNaiksatam | all right, if nothing else, i guess we can wrap up, i didnt have much of an agenda planned for today | 18:34 |
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rkukura | +1 | 18:35 |
SumitNaiksatam | if nothing urgent comes up, we will skip next week’s meeting | 18:35 |
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SumitNaiksatam | thanks all for attending | 18:35 |
tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: thanks! | 18:35 |
SumitNaiksatam | bye! | 18:35 |
rkukura | bye | 18:35 |
hemanthravi | bye | 18:35 |
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songole | bye | 18:35 |
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SumitNaiksatam | #endmeeting | 18:35 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 21 18:35:55 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:35 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2016/networking_policy.2016-07-21-18.01.html | 18:35 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2016/networking_policy.2016-07-21-18.01.txt | 18:35 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2016/networking_policy.2016-07-21-18.01.log.html | 18:35 |
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shamail | Hi dabukalam and MeganR | 19:02 |
shamail | #startmeeting auc | 19:02 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 21 19:02:39 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is shamail. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:02 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:02 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'auc' | 19:02 |
shamail | Anyone here for the AUC Recognition WG meeting? | 19:04 |
MeganR | I am :) | 19:04 |
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shamail | Yay! | 19:04 |
MeganR | lol | 19:05 |
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MeganR | I played with Google Forms a little bit. | 19:05 |
shamail | Honestly, not much to cover this week (mainly status updates) so it’s going to be a quick meeting anyway | 19:05 |
shamail | Nice | 19:05 |
shamail | #topic Non-IRC WG data collection | 19:05 |
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shamail | How’d that go? Any test URLs? | 19:05 |
MeganR | that's fine by me - I am out next week, and trying to wrap up a lot today and tomorrow. | 19:06 |
shamail | I am out Friday - Thursday | 19:06 |
MeganR | Please keep in mind these are really rough | 19:06 |
MeganR | Working Group Participation: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1y6-pEUTJEL4gb6pISWsVjHu8HMuKwZGiOlJaGFxa0CY/edit | 19:06 |
MeganR | This is to track member participation in working groups that do not use IRC. My thought is that each group could have their own form, so they can add in a list of members, and then each meeting go in check the box for each member, hit submit and move on. | 19:06 |
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MeganR | Here is the second one: | 19:06 |
MeganR | Submission for AUC status: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1TXw9LXCH6B5ZmInmRvA3owSThZ5qmjdjd2-defimbAw/edit | 19:06 |
MeganR | This one was tough, had a difficult time coming up with more than a few questions. | 19:06 |
MeganR | need to step away for 2 min, brb | 19:07 |
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shamail | #link https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/docs/Mka4NM9WSHk | 19:07 |
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shamail | There is also this approach but I agree that for a the first revision, we can have separate forms… eventually if we could have one form with the data landing in different sheets then that would be ideal. | 19:07 |
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MeganR | I'm not certain that I am following - are the questions presenting as a different form - or do you want to combine WG participation with AUC Status submission | 19:10 |
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shamail | I just clicked on the form you built | 19:11 |
shamail | I get it now, separate forms make sense | 19:11 |
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shamail | I was thinking about it different | 19:11 |
MeganR | :) | 19:11 |
MeganR | didn't know if I may have copied the same link twice! | 19:12 |
shamail | In my head, I was thinking about a form that a WG chair could fill out once per release cycle that says who they are, which WG they chair, who they consider active members, links to supporting docs (etherpads, etc) | 19:12 |
shamail | The form you built is basically a weekly tracker right? They would use it to log attendance every week | 19:13 |
MeganR | yes, I was thinking weekly or per meeting | 19:13 |
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MeganR | thinking along the lines of 25 lines in IRC, and if they have attend x number of meetings | 19:13 |
shamail | I think that view/data (weekly) will be much more robust, only concern is whether the WG chairs would be willing to do it weekly | 19:13 |
MeganR | however, I like your idea, whatever is easiest for the meeting chair | 19:14 |
shamail | Is it just enterprise WG at this point? | 19:14 |
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shamail | (as far as WGs not using IRC) | 19:15 |
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MeganR | no, it is actually 3, Enterprise, IRC and Fault Genes WG (had to find their name) | 19:15 |
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shamail | Ah | 19:15 |
shamail | IRC doesn’t use IRC :O | 19:16 |
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MeganR | I might be missing a sub-group here and there. I didn't include the Ref Arch sub-group, because all of those contributors are active in the Enterprise | 19:16 |
shamail | 3 is managable | 19:16 |
shamail | MeganR: +1 | 19:16 |
MeganR | Lol - that's funny - yes, it should be "ISV" | 19:16 |
shamail | oh, lol | 19:16 |
MeganR | :) | 19:17 |
shamail | I think App Ecosystem WG doesnt use IRC either | 19:17 |
MeganR | hmm, I will check - I looked through the WG list, but probably need to go through it again to make sure I am not missing anyone | 19:18 |
shamail | I like the form though! great work | 19:18 |
MeganR | Thank you | 19:18 |
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shamail | Is the next step to share the form with a few WG chairs and get their feedback? | 19:18 |
MeganR | Next steps: I can send both of these forms out for review with our team, and Jimmy and Tom | 19:19 |
MeganR | and I can include the WG chairs | 19:19 |
MeganR | :) | 19:19 |
shamail | +1 | 19:19 |
shamail | Thanks! | 19:19 |
MeganR | yw | 19:19 |
MeganR | that's it from me today! | 19:19 |
shamail | #topic Get Active WG Members update request | 19:20 |
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shamail | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/user-committee/2016-July/001119.html | 19:20 |
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shamail | fifieldt sent an email requesting a few updates to the script since it is being used by the member database update project | 19:21 |
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shamail | I will be glad to create a patch for these changes… change 1, add a dir flag, is easier. | 19:22 |
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shamail | #action Send forms out for review with our team, and Jimmy and Tom (MeganR) | 19:23 |
shamail | #action Make changes to Active WG members script | 19:23 |
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MeganR | sounds good | 19:23 |
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shamail | #Topic review open changes | 19:24 |
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shamail | Tom posted a comment on a change request for the AskOpenStackMods team script | 19:24 |
shamail | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/341955/ | 19:24 |
shamail | His comment: I can see this making sense for deliverables that are tied to the release cycle, but this deliverable in particular is not. As a result, the change might exclude people who would otherwise qualify. | 19:25 |
shamail | Something else to tie into the thinking is: is the AUC list generated for tasks outside the time close to release cycle boundaries? For example, when does voting happen? | 19:25 |
shamail | I can reply but wanted to validate my response with you... | 19:25 |
MeganR | ok | 19:25 |
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shamail | I think we decided that for Ask OpenStack Mods we wanted to tie them with the same time window as others (e.g. release cycle) so that we can ensure that only active participants are included. The concern is that a WG member has to be active each cycle to recieve credit even though some of their deliverables (e.g. eBooks, etc) might have a longer life (similar to Ask OpenStack Mods) | 19:27 |
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MeganR | I agree | 19:27 |
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shamail | In general, we choose to focus on active as a criteria to make all contribution types as equal as possible | 19:27 |
shamail | (effort wise) | 19:27 |
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MeganR | with the first iteration though, we are trying to establish a baseline, who is active, and then will tie in a date range on the same timeframe as ATC? | 19:28 |
shamail | The second part we addressed as well… which is generally we will do AUC collection at feature-freeze or RC1… we would know track chairs by then. | 19:28 |
shamail | MeganR: +1 makes sense.... | 19:28 |
shamail | So should first revision go back more than 180? | 19:28 |
shamail | To reward past contributors? | 19:29 |
MeganR | I don't think so, we are trying to focus on current participation and the current release | 19:29 |
shamail | Agree | 19:30 |
shamail | Wanted to double check | 19:30 |
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shamail | Thanks! | 19:30 |
MeganR | I think if we open it to past contributors, we are undoing a lot of the "requirements" we have put in place, and need in place. Have to start somewhere. | 19:30 |
MeganR | yw | 19:30 |
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shamail | +1 | 19:31 |
shamail | That’s all I had for today as well | 19:31 |
MeganR | cool - productive meeting! | 19:31 |
shamail | Yep | 19:31 |
shamail | Enjoy your time off! | 19:31 |
MeganR | thank you - talk to you in August! | 19:32 |
shamail | Yep! Cya | 19:32 |
shamail | #endmeeting | 19:32 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 21 19:32:23 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:32 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/auc/2016/auc.2016-07-21-19.02.html | 19:32 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/auc/2016/auc.2016-07-21-19.02.txt | 19:32 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/auc/2016/auc.2016-07-21-19.02.log.html | 19:32 |
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