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sc` | #startmeeting openstack_chef | 16:00 |
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openstack | Meeting started Mon Jun 27 16:00:50 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sc`. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack_chef)" | 16:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_chef' | 16:00 |
jklare | o/ | 16:01 |
sc` | ohai! | 16:01 |
sc` | judging from previous meetings, i think it's just the two of us | 16:02 |
jklare | yeah, i guess most of the others went away to focus on other projects | 16:02 |
sc` | alright. i don't think we need an agenda for the time being | 16:03 |
jklare | :D | 16:03 |
jklare | i am quite happy that we are done with stable/mitaka and from my side everything looks good so far | 16:04 |
sc` | yeah, for sure. my team is starting to gnaw on it and see what they can do | 16:04 |
jklare | sounds good | 16:04 |
jklare | any plans on how we want to continue with the openstack-chef project during the newton cycle? | 16:05 |
sc` | in order to land newton, we need openstackclient | 16:05 |
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jklare | sounds reasonable | 16:05 |
sc` | that's before we can even try converging | 16:05 |
jklare | so you would go for replacing the service pythonclients by the openstackclient or rather try to abstract stuff into a wrapper with some ruby libraries | 16:06 |
jklare | like fog | 16:06 |
sc` | we do have the client cookbook that abstracts to fog, but it might need some love before we can use it for newton | 16:07 |
jklare | yeah, looked at it a while ago | 16:08 |
jklare | there is not too much there | 16:08 |
sc` | yeah. not much to it | 16:08 |
sc` | i'm looking at it, going to see what can be used, or if python-openstackclient is the way to go | 16:08 |
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sc` | the good news is that in order to do 'rake unit' on keystone, not much needs to change | 16:10 |
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sc` | so we should be able to get newer chefdk in, even if integration can't converge at the moment | 16:11 |
sc` | only because integration still isn't voting :) | 16:11 |
jklare | :) | 16:12 |
sc` | i'll be spending some time on making 'rake unit' work with chefdk 0.15.15 with the master branch, and proposing those changes | 16:14 |
jklare | cool | 16:14 |
sc` | so we can get movement on at least one of the things we discussed at the summit :) | 16:14 |
jklare | i think its a good first step | 16:15 |
jklare | i will try to look at the apt cookbook update so we can make xenial work | 16:15 |
sc` | awesome | 16:15 |
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sc` | i was looking at lp, and i'm going to have to figure out how to 'release' mitaka so we can move forward there | 16:22 |
jklare | what do you mean by "release" ? | 16:23 |
sc` | according to https://launchpad.net/openstack-chef we're still actively focused on mitaka | 16:24 |
sc` | okay, looks pretty straightforward | 16:25 |
jklare | should be released now :D | 16:25 |
sc` | yep, i see it | 16:25 |
sc` | thanks :D | 16:26 |
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jklare | np, i forgot that i wanted to do that :D | 16:27 |
sc` | rock on. i'll register newton today | 16:27 |
jklare | great | 16:28 |
jklare | any thoughts about the "discontinued" cookbooks? | 16:28 |
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sc` | swift and sahara? i'd love to get them current, but if nobody actively wants to use either one, it may be a bunch of work for nothing | 16:29 |
jklare | +1 | 16:29 |
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sc` | i haven't seen any patches on swift since... kilo i think | 16:30 |
jklare | i think everybody is using ceph | 16:30 |
sc` | beyond the "let's get this released" patches | 16:30 |
jklare | ^^ | 16:32 |
sc` | i'm fine with letting swift and sahara be as-is for now. if someone wants to step up in the meantime, they're quite welcome | 16:33 |
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jklare | agreed | 16:36 |
sc` | back to the client stuff, i think we will be pretty much forced down the path of using python-openstackclient or making fog work | 16:36 |
sc` | everything i'm seeing suggests openstackclient is where to be | 16:36 |
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jklare | yeah, but writing a wrapper around a pythonclient seems less than ideal | 16:38 |
jklare | i think using a ruby library would be much more comfortable | 16:38 |
jklare | although it would be more work initially | 16:38 |
sc` | i think the main question there is who would be doing it | 16:38 |
jklare | if nobody maintains the cookbook, we could fork back from suse :D https://github.com/crowbar/crowbar-openstack/tree/master/chef/cookbooks/swift | 16:39 |
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sc` | :D | 16:40 |
jklare | i mean the funny part is, that they are also maintaining these cookbooks and most of the time doing exactly the same fixes and patches we do :D | 16:40 |
sc` | didn't suse contribute to the openstack cookbooks when they were still in the stackforge namespace? | 16:41 |
jklare | yeah | 16:41 |
sc` | that is amusing | 16:41 |
jklare | thats why this is so funny | 16:41 |
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jklare | but thats off topic :D | 16:42 |
jklare | so yeah, we should focus on the client cookbook | 16:43 |
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sc` | looks like the crowbar cookbooks don't approach the client either. just relies on python-*client bindings. doesn't work for newton i imagine | 16:43 |
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sc` | that's about all i have, since we seem to be diverging from topic | 16:45 |
jklare | ^^ | 16:46 |
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sc` | btw, i fixed liberty-rc1 on lp. that typo was bugging the shit out of me | 16:46 |
jklare | :D | 16:46 |
jklare | these things are horrible | 16:46 |
sc` | unless we have anything else for today, i think we'll call it a few minute early | 16:47 |
jklare | +1 | 16:47 |
sc` | sounds good. see you on the regular channel o/ | 16:47 |
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sc` | #endmeeting | 16:48 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jun 27 16:48:13 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:48 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_chef/2016/openstack_chef.2016-06-27-16.00.html | 16:48 |
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openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_chef/2016/openstack_chef.2016-06-27-16.00.txt | 16:48 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_chef/2016/openstack_chef.2016-06-27-16.00.log.html | 16:48 |
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dtantsur | hey, who is here for the ironic meeting? | 17:00 |
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lucasagomes | me | 17:00 |
dtantsur | #startmeeting ironic | 17:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Jun 27 17:00:31 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dtantsur. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' | 17:00 |
devananda | o/ | 17:00 |
lucasagomes | o/ | 17:00 |
jlvillal | o/ | 17:00 |
JayF | o/ | 17:00 |
dtantsur | #chair devananda rloo | 17:00 |
rpioso | o/ | 17:00 |
mat128 | o/ | 17:00 |
openstack | Current chairs: devananda dtantsur rloo | 17:00 |
rama_y | o/ | 17:00 |
alineb | o/ | 17:00 |
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rloo | o/ | 17:01 |
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TheJulia | o/ | 17:01 |
mgould | o/ | 17:01 |
dtantsur | welcome everyone! our agenda as usual is on: | 17:01 |
dtantsur | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic | 17:01 |
dtantsur | #topic Announcements / Reminders | 17:01 |
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dtantsur | First of all, the next Monday is a holiday in the US | 17:01 |
dtantsur | Will anyone feel sorry if we skip it? | 17:02 |
dtantsur | it = the meeting | 17:02 |
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* devananda supports skipping the July 4th meetings | 17:02 | |
lucasagomes | fine to me | 17:02 |
sambetts | o/ | 17:02 |
TheJulia | no objections to cancelling next week's meeting | 17:02 |
mariojv | \o | 17:02 |
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JayF | ++ | 17:02 |
sambetts | no objections here | 17:02 |
rloo | skip, skip, skip to ... | 17:02 |
mat128 | skip | 17:02 |
thiagop | skip | 17:03 |
jlvillal | +1 for skip | 17:03 |
mat128 | #startvote Skip July 4th meeting? | 17:03 |
openstack | Only the meeting chair may start a vote. | 17:03 |
dtantsur | awesome, then | 17:03 |
dtantsur | #agreed We'll skip the next meeting (July 4th) due to the US holiday | 17:03 |
jlvillal | #info No meeting on July 4th | 17:03 |
dtantsur | don't think we need a format vote on it, even though I find it tempting to try chatbot commands :) | 17:03 |
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[1]cdearborn | o/ | 17:04 |
dtantsur | Second announcement: | 17:04 |
dtantsur | #info We've made a release of all supported branches due to a CVE | 17:04 |
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mat128 | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1572796 | 17:04 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1572796 in Ironic "Node information including credentials exposed to unathenticated users (CVE-2016-4985)" [High,Fix released] - Assigned to Devananda van der Veen (devananda) | 17:04 |
dtantsur | thanks! | 17:05 |
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dtantsur | any more announcements/reminders? | 17:05 |
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dtantsur | I take it as no :) | 17:06 |
rloo | great mid-cycle! | 17:06 |
dtantsur | oh yeah! | 17:06 |
dtantsur | #info We had a great virtual midcycle \o/ | 17:06 |
dtantsur | now | 17:06 |
lucasagomes | and thanks mat128 for the summary :-) | 17:06 |
JayF | There was also a pretty nasty IPA bug fixed; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic-python-agent/+bug/1592163 -- deployers should rebuild ramdisks with this fix | 17:06 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1592163 in ironic-python-agent mitaka "IPA may unexpectedly stop in a CoreOS-based ramdisk in certain circumstances" [High,Fix committed] - Assigned to Jay Faulkner (jason-oldos) | 17:06 |
dtantsur | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ironic-newton-midcycle midcycle etherpad | 17:06 |
lucasagomes | (in the ML for those wondering) | 17:07 |
JayF | it's in all branches and ramdisks were updated on merge as is usual | 17:07 |
JayF | (stable branches) | 17:07 |
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dtantsur | #info Deployers using the coreos IPA should rebuild their images due to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic-python-agent/+bug/1592163 | 17:07 |
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dtantsur | anything else? | 17:07 |
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mat128 | lucasagomes: thanks :) | 17:07 |
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dtantsur | ok, moving on | 17:08 |
dtantsur | #topic Review subteam status reports | 17:08 |
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dtantsur | the status reports are on the whiteboard: | 17:08 |
dtantsur | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard | 17:08 |
dtantsur | starting line 78 | 17:08 |
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dtantsur | devananda, do you feel you could remove your -2 from the first network patch, so that we start merging them? | 17:10 |
_milan_ | o/ | 17:10 |
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dtantsur | devananda, this is https://review.openstack.org/206244 and it no longer involves portgroups, as agreed on the summit | 17:11 |
rloo | dtantsur, devananda: agreed at the midcycle | 17:12 |
devananda | dtantsur: I'll take a look right now | 17:12 |
dtantsur | thanks rloo, my bad :) | 17:12 |
dtantsur | devananda, thanks | 17:12 |
devananda | dtantsur: my block was on the first API change, so that we did not merge any visible REST API changes until we were sure | 17:12 |
dtantsur | lucasagomes, is it possible to add virtual console support to vbmc? | 17:12 |
devananda | we've already allowed some of the internal changes in, so I"m happy to allow more of thsoe in | 17:12 |
dtantsur | devananda, yeah, I know. it feels like The Time Has Come | 17:13 |
devananda | awesome | 17:13 |
devananda | dtantsur, sambetts: who all has been able to verify these patches on Real Hardware (tm) ? | 17:13 |
lucasagomes | dtantsur, yes, it seems possible | 17:13 |
mat128 | dtantsur: SoL? | 17:13 |
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dtantsur | mat128, yep. see line 152 | 17:13 |
devananda | it's unfortunate but in the last month or so, I haven't had time to get this running in my lab again | 17:13 |
dtantsur | devananda, I'm waiting to get this Real Hardware :( | 17:14 |
mat128 | dtantsur: thanks :) | 17:14 |
lucasagomes | dtantsur, I will add a bug on virtualbmc about it (wishlist) | 17:14 |
dtantsur | lucasagomes, thanks! please link it on the whiteboard under line 152 | 17:14 |
lucasagomes | dtantsur, ack | 17:14 |
dtantsur | krotscheck_dcm, betherly, any updates on the webclient? | 17:15 |
krotscheck_dcm | None | 17:15 |
lucasagomes | it may involve having to add the abstraction in pyghmi as well, anyway, will add to the bug | 17:15 |
devananda | do we have tempest API coverage for the new API endpoints? I do not see it in this patch. | 17:15 |
krotscheck_dcm | Well, not directly related anyway. We're abotu to move the Ironic API into the OpenStack JavaScript SDK | 17:15 |
dtantsur | lucasagomes, please update line 164 if you don't mind | 17:15 |
dtantsur | vdrok, vsaienko, see devananda's question above ^^^ | 17:16 |
dtantsur | krotscheck_dcm, OpenStack JavaScript SDK? is there a thing? :) | 17:16 |
betherly | dtantsur: in process of developing edit node functionality and state machine changes | 17:16 |
TheJulia | betherly: That is for the horizon plugin? | 17:16 |
krotscheck_dcm | dtantsur: openstack/js-openstack-lib and openstack-infra/js-generator-openstack | 17:17 |
mat128 | TheJulia: webclient | 17:17 |
betherly | TheJulia: yep | 17:17 |
krotscheck_dcm | So yes | 17:17 |
mat128 | ^w | 17:17 |
lucasagomes | done | 17:17 |
dtantsur | krotscheck_dcm, thanks, I didn't know about it | 17:17 |
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dtantsur | thanks for updates, betherly, lucasagomes, krotscheck_dcm | 17:17 |
krotscheck_dcm | dtantsur: It's 3 weeks old | 17:17 |
dtantsur | hah :) | 17:17 |
betherly | mat128: I work on the ironic horizon plugin, krotscheck_dcm on the webclient :) | 17:17 |
devananda | dtantsur: the patches are not ready for me to remove that -2 | 17:17 |
dtantsur | devananda, I thought we prefer -1 when patches are not ready | 17:17 |
devananda | dtantsur: the process we agreed on was that I will unblock the chain as a whole, once everything else is 2x +2'd and ready to land | 17:18 |
* dtantsur didn't agree on such process, but believes devananda.. | 17:18 | |
dtantsur | for the record: I don't think it's the right approach. but we won't be arguing on it in this section :) | 17:18 |
dtantsur | anything else on the status? we have one topic, then we can have a flame war(s) | 17:18 |
dtantsur | #topic make functional tests be voting for IPA | 17:19 |
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dtantsur | jlvillal, your turn ;) | 17:19 |
jlvillal | Hey, maybe a bit premature on this | 17:19 |
jlvillal | I thought it had been running in the gate longer. | 17:20 |
lucasagomes | jlvillal, the tests were added last week | 17:20 |
jlvillal | But we did have these tests get broken. | 17:20 |
lucasagomes | I would give it a lil more time and then no objections | 17:20 |
jlvillal | Agreed. Defer for now. Maybe next week? | 17:20 |
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lucasagomes | could be | 17:20 |
lucasagomes | one a note, we should improve the funcitonal tests in IPA | 17:20 |
jlvillal | So far everything seems good from looking at test results | 17:20 |
lucasagomes | there's very little there | 17:20 |
dtantsur | yeah, the next week, if we don't see excessive random failures | 17:21 |
dtantsur | lucasagomes++ | 17:21 |
jlvillal | lucasagomes, Agreed. And hopefully if it is a voting test, maybe more interest from people to add... | 17:21 |
lucasagomes | yeah, I think we do have a bug about it | 17:21 |
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jlvillal | I could believe people didn't even know about it. | 17:21 |
dtantsur | we do | 17:21 |
dtantsur | jlvillal++ I'd prefer to add things to a voting (or at least running) test | 17:22 |
lucasagomes | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic-python-agent/+bug/1492036 | 17:22 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1492036 in ironic-python-agent "IPA does not have functional testing" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Mario Villaplana (mario-villaplana-j) | 17:22 |
jlvillal | The ironic-pythong-agent got added to a 'ci watch' system that someone is running. | 17:22 |
dtantsur | cool | 17:22 |
jlvillal | I put a link to it on the whiteboard under the gate status. The IP address one. It just started today | 17:22 |
dtantsur | thanks jlvillal | 17:22 |
jlvillal | So it will take some time to build up history | 17:22 |
jlvillal | That's all from me | 17:22 |
dtantsur | so do we agree that we'll make it voting the next week if everything is alright? | 17:23 |
jlvillal | +1 from me. | 17:23 |
lucasagomes | ++ | 17:23 |
rloo | ++, end of next week? | 17:23 |
dtantsur | rloo, when people are around, I guess :) | 17:23 |
rloo | maybe midweek. | 17:23 |
lucasagomes | I would vote for mid :-) | 17:23 |
* jlvillal would vote for no later than Thursday | 17:23 | |
lucasagomes | yeah | 17:23 |
jlvillal | Does not want a Friday change :) | 17:23 |
lucasagomes | making it vote on friday is scary heh | 17:23 |
TheJulia | ++ to not friday | 17:24 |
dtantsur | #agreed Make the IPA functional tests job voting the next week, if we don't see problems with it | 17:24 |
dtantsur | I think we can figure out the exact day outside of the meeting :) | 17:24 |
dtantsur | moving on? | 17:24 |
jlvillal | Yes please | 17:24 |
dtantsur | #topic RFE review | 17:24 |
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dtantsur | in this section we do a brief sanity check of a couple of RFEs and decide if they need a spec | 17:24 |
dtantsur | I didn't prepare many in advance, but here are some: | 17:24 |
dtantsur | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1595625 Ability to run manual cleaning with automated clean steps | 17:25 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1595625 in Ironic "[RFE] Ability to run manual cleaning with automated clean steps" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 17:25 |
dtantsur | giving folks a couple of minutes to read the description and the comments | 17:25 |
dtantsur | on one hand it's an easy change; on the other hand it's an API change and there is a contention already (see the comments) | 17:26 |
lucasagomes | this is just about running all steps if no steps is specified? | 17:26 |
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dtantsur | lucasagomes, all "automated" steps | 17:26 |
rloo | lucasagomes: running all automated steps, in a manual clean. | 17:26 |
vdrok | devananda: the first patch does not contain new endpoints now, the one that contains does not add tempest tests, it's in the end of chain. Will add those | 17:27 |
lucasagomes | automated == priority > 0, right? | 17:27 |
rloo | lucasagomes: right. | 17:27 |
dtantsur | lucasagomes, right | 17:27 |
lucasagomes | seems alright to be | 17:27 |
dtantsur | thanks vdrok, lets get back to in in the open discussion | 17:27 |
devananda | vdrok: first patch adds new fields, which do not do anything until later patches | 17:27 |
dtantsur | so, while a bit uncertain, I think this RFE could use a spec. wdyt? | 17:28 |
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devananda | vdrok: I do not want to land a visible change in the API that doesn't _do_ anything, until we're very sure that all the subsequent changes (that enable that API) are going to land too | 17:28 |
rloo | dtantsur: i'm fine either way. as long as i get answers to my questions :) | 17:28 |
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dtantsur | devananda++ but lets postpone it until the open discussion, we'll get back to it, I promise ;) | 17:28 |
devananda | dtantsur: sorry. just responding to vdrok. | 17:29 |
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rloo | dtantsur: if you think it needs a spec, then let's ask for a spec. | 17:29 |
TheJulia | dtantsur: this seems like a minimal change to me, I don't think a spec is really necessary, but we may all look at code and change our minds. I think this is a case where seeing some code, would make it very easy to decide which way | 17:29 |
dtantsur | other opinions on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1595625 ? does everyone feels ok with it *without* a spec as long as rloo's comments are resolved? | 17:29 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1595625 in Ironic "[RFE] Ability to run manual cleaning with automated clean steps" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 17:29 |
* jlvillal finds title confusing compared to content | 17:29 | |
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mat128 | dtantsur: I feel ok | 17:29 |
mat128 | jlvillal: We could say "Optionally run automated clean steps during manual cleaning" | 17:30 |
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dtantsur | do we need a format vote? | 17:30 |
jlvillal | mat128, That makes it clearer to me. | 17:30 |
mat128 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1595625 | 17:30 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1595625 in Ironic "[RFE] Optionally run automated clean steps during manual cleaning" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 17:30 |
mat128 | updated | 17:30 |
dtantsur | thanks mat128 | 17:31 |
rloo | dtantsur: it seems to me that if someone asks for a spec and has good reason for asking, then they should do a spec. not sure we need to vote on it? | 17:31 |
devananda | that change in the title clarifies the RFE a lot for me, thanks | 17:31 |
dtantsur | I'm not sure, I'm fine with figuring out on the patch | 17:31 |
dtantsur | it seems like we have a consensus. the last chance to object | 17:31 |
lucasagomes | I think it's ok to just have the RFE, but I would like to see the authors answers for rloo's questions | 17:31 |
lucasagomes | before approving it | 17:32 |
rloo | lucasagomes: yup | 17:32 |
dtantsur | #agreed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1595625 does not need a spec, but the question in the comments have to be addressed | 17:32 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1595625 in Ironic "[RFE] Optionally run automated clean steps during manual cleaning" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 17:32 |
dtantsur | moving on | 17:32 |
dtantsur | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1595172 Add names for ports | 17:32 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1595172 in Ironic "[RFE] Add names for ports" [Wishlist,Confirmed] - Assigned to Sharat Sharma (sharat-sharma) | 17:32 |
dtantsur | devananda, I remember you had objections ^^^ | 17:32 |
lucasagomes | that needs a spec | 17:32 |
devananda | heh, indeed | 17:33 |
lucasagomes | we already had problems with names of nodes colliding with subcontrollers and so on | 17:33 |
mat128 | dtantsur: the spec you were looking for is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/295082/ | 17:33 |
dtantsur | it seems to me we had a spec... | 17:33 |
rloo | ++ to spec. i thought someone had already asked for that but don't remember. | 17:33 |
lucasagomes | I also, fail to see the real use case for naming ports | 17:33 |
dtantsur | aha! | 17:33 |
dtantsur | thanks mat128, you're so fast today :) | 17:33 |
rloo | mat128 is *always* fast with the links! | 17:33 |
devananda | the only case for naming ports that I have seen was "I want to name the NICs so that I can search for them easily" | 17:34 |
mat128 | heh :blush: | 17:34 |
devananda | which boiled down to someone not wanting to use "--node-port-list" | 17:34 |
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devananda | I haven't read that spec .... /me goes and reads it real quick | 17:34 |
rloo | i dunno. we allow names for nodes, and even then, some folks didn't see the usefulness of it. | 17:34 |
devananda | *in a while | 17:34 |
dtantsur | I've marked the RFE in question as a duplicate, cause we already had an RFE matching the spec | 17:34 |
dtantsur | rloo, I see *great* usefulness for node names; not so much for port names | 17:35 |
devananda | what is the current rationale for wanting to name ports? | 17:35 |
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dtantsur | devananda, I don't believe there's strong one; anyway, lets bring it to the spec, you've already -1ed it, and I agree with you | 17:35 |
devananda | cause this RFE looks like the same thing | 17:35 |
devananda | "MAC address is too hard to remember, and I dont want to use --node-port-list" | 17:35 |
devananda | k | 17:35 |
dtantsur | moving to the last one I've prepared | 17:36 |
lucasagomes | yeah, seems very little compelling, +1 to keep the conversation in the spec | 17:36 |
dtantsur | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1594668 Allow creating a port providing node name instead of UUID | 17:36 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1594668 in Ironic "[RFE] Allow creating a port providing node name instead of UUID" [Wishlist,Confirmed] - Assigned to Sharat Sharma (sharat-sharma) | 17:36 |
dtantsur | I like it | 17:36 |
mat128 | notice it's by the same user | 17:36 |
mat128 | =) | 17:37 |
lucasagomes | seems like a good UX | 17:37 |
dtantsur | well, things happen :) | 17:37 |
vdrok | Yeah, why not | 17:37 |
lucasagomes | now, I would like a spec due the impact on the CLI and API | 17:37 |
dtantsur | imagine (s)he just started using ironic and got hit by a few problems | 17:37 |
thiagop | I'd like to name a port after the port on the node (aka eth0, eth1...) to make it easy to my brain to work | 17:37 |
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dtantsur | thiagop, that's a fair call, lets bring it to the spec | 17:37 |
rloo | I'm not sure, I think we had some funky code that made it a bit difficult to implement this. Seems like someone tried to do it before but I don't recall what happened with it. But I'm fine with it. | 17:37 |
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mat128 | I don't have any strong objection to ^, but tats's previous spec | 17:37 |
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thiagop | sure dtantsur | 17:37 |
dtantsur | ok, lucasagomes wants a spec and I don't see reasons to object :) | 17:38 |
lucasagomes | rloo, yup, therefore a spec would be good | 17:38 |
dtantsur | objections? | 17:39 |
rloo | i'm not sure a spec is needed. it is just one API change? | 17:39 |
dtantsur | we've screwed up adding names to nodes; I'm not sure a spec will help though | 17:39 |
rloo | i think the devil (or whatever) is in the implementation details. | 17:39 |
lucasagomes | rloo, and CLI, I wonder also if the author will propose doing POST v1/nodes/foo/ports | 17:39 |
lucasagomes | and things like that | 17:40 |
devananda | thiagop: you could use extra.dev_name='eth0' today to do that | 17:40 |
devananda | thiagop: also, in many OS, it is non-deterministic. and it is certainly not consistent across OS's | 17:40 |
lucasagomes | rloo, another confusing thing, the CLI for port-create supports --node and --node_uuid | 17:40 |
dtantsur | rloo, do you object to having a spec? | 17:40 |
devananda | as far as "ironic port-create -a .... -n node_name" goes, I would definitely be in support of htat | 17:40 |
rloo | lucasagomes: so if they update the rfe to indicate exactly what the CLI/API are, would that be sufficient? | 17:40 |
lucasagomes | but both requires the UUID | 17:40 |
devananda | the current requirement to create ports with a node UUID, when most other commands accept a name is poor UX | 17:41 |
dtantsur | devananda, +100 I got hit by it when reviewing the OSC patches | 17:41 |
vdrok | I've seen some rfe to add a description to ports, maybe it's just a matter of what is printed on port show | 17:41 |
rloo | dtantsur: oh, i don't object to having a spec if lucasagomes wants it. | 17:41 |
devananda | it's easy enough to work around, but I find it frustrating when I forget it | 17:41 |
dtantsur | devananda, yeah, the question is whether we want a spec for it | 17:41 |
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dtantsur | I think we all agree that's a sane call | 17:41 |
dtantsur | (to have this feature) | 17:41 |
vdrok | Err, port list | 17:41 |
devananda | dtantsur: we could do port-create with node name entirely in the client even. no REST API changes | 17:42 |
rloo | vdrok: that rfe you mentioned, was associated with the code to have port names... that we just discussed above. | 17:42 |
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dtantsur | devananda, but should we? all our API support names | 17:42 |
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devananda | right - we could do that too | 17:42 |
devananda | if we change the REST API, I would like a spec | 17:42 |
vdrok | rloo: huh, I'm from phone, so might have missed things :) | 17:42 |
rloo | vdrok: no worries :) | 17:43 |
dtantsur | ok, we can't agree on it for some time, I think it's a good reason to have a spec, right? :) | 17:43 |
rloo | ok, devananda and lucasagomes want a spec, so lets ask for it. | 17:43 |
devananda | fwiw, if someone just wanted to make a UX improvement to the CLI, I would be fine without a spec | 17:43 |
lucasagomes | doesn't need to be a big one, but it's mostly about user experience and involves the client and API | 17:43 |
lucasagomes | so I tend to think we need a spec for it | 17:43 |
devananda | (not suggesting that, just clarifying the cases where I do or do not want a spec) | 17:43 |
dtantsur | #agreed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1594668 will need a short spec | 17:43 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1594668 in Ironic "[RFE] Allow creating a port providing node name instead of UUID" [Wishlist,Confirmed] - Assigned to Sharat Sharma (sharat-sharma) | 17:43 |
dtantsur | sorry, I just saw one more thing: | 17:44 |
dtantsur | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1585595 Handling SIGHUP on Ironic services | 17:44 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1585595 in Ironic "[RFE] Handling SIGHUP on Ironic services" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Lucas Alvares Gomes (lucasagomes) | 17:44 |
dtantsur | lucasagomes, yours one ^^^ | 17:44 |
dtantsur | I think we should Just Do It (tm). wdyt? | 17:44 |
lucasagomes | oh, I started that because it was needed for the rolling release | 17:44 |
devananda | oooh | 17:44 |
lucasagomes | it seems it's not needed anymore, but still | 17:44 |
lucasagomes | it's a feature own it's own | 17:44 |
lucasagomes | oslo.service already supports handling SIGHUP and oslo.config already supports marking options as "multable" that will be reloaded upon receiving that signal | 17:45 |
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devananda | lucasagomes: do you have a list of the impplicitly mutable options? your RFE mentions debug - are there others? | 17:45 |
lucasagomes | I just need to update my patch upstream... I don't think it needs a spec, but it's up to you guys | 17:45 |
rloo | lucasagomes: so someone needs to decide which configs are mutable? | 17:46 |
devananda | lucasagomes: also, do you have a list of the ironic-specific options you'd want to reload on SIGHUP? | 17:46 |
vdrok | So we need to decide which do we allow to reload? | 17:46 |
vdrok | Heh | 17:46 |
lucasagomes | devananda, probably there are, I've to go through the list of configurations and see what would make sense to be reloaded | 17:46 |
dtantsur | vdrok, right now we decide: 1. whether it's a sane request; 2. whether it needs a spec | 17:46 |
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dtantsur | we don't need to figure out all the details right now and here | 17:46 |
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devananda | it's going to be confusing to operators if some options reload, and some do not, unless we very clearly indicate (or detect) this on reload | 17:47 |
vdrok | It's same but seems that there will be discussion around the list of options | 17:47 |
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vdrok | *sane | 17:47 |
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rloo | i am fine w/o a spec, but would like to see the list of mutable configs, and some sort of criteria as to which/why, for future configs. | 17:47 |
devananda | like - we should LOG.warning() if a config was changed which we can not re-initialize | 17:47 |
lucasagomes | devananda, yeah, I find it strange from oslo.config as well to have to explicitly mark which ones you want to reload | 17:47 |
dtantsur | lucasagomes++ a user would expect everything to be reloaded | 17:48 |
rloo | so it needs more work. a spec or not? | 17:48 |
dtantsur | so, a spec? | 17:48 |
devananda | and how will we test this in the gate? | 17:48 |
lucasagomes | but I understand things weren't engineered to support reloading everything in the first place (e.g timeout passed to the periodic tasks at construction time) | 17:48 |
dtantsur | ok, I see enough questions to warrant a spec, lets not solve them all here | 17:48 |
rloo | i think it needs a spec. given the questions brought up so far :) | 17:48 |
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lucasagomes | devananda, no clue | 17:48 |
devananda | lucasagomes: wouldn't we recreate the threads/workers? | 17:48 |
dtantsur | agreed? | 17:48 |
devananda | dtantsur: ++ | 17:48 |
rloo | dtantsur: agreed. | 17:48 |
lucasagomes | devananda, I don't think we should? | 17:49 |
dtantsur | #agreed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1585595 will need a spec as there are enough unclear parts | 17:49 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1585595 in Ironic "[RFE] Handling SIGHUP on Ironic services" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Lucas Alvares Gomes (lucasagomes) | 17:49 |
lucasagomes | my solution for that would be to have a function reference when getting the timeout in the periodic task (it's out of the scope of the spec) | 17:49 |
lucasagomes | e.g periodic(interval=func_ref) | 17:49 |
lucasagomes | instead of the value itself | 17:49 |
lucasagomes | that would allow us to reload it | 17:49 |
lucasagomes | but anyway, outside the scope of ironic/spec, should be an oslo thing | 17:49 |
dtantsur | thanks folks, I'm ready to open the floor. lets discuss the details on the spec | 17:50 |
dtantsur | #topic Open discussion | 17:50 |
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rloo | let's get back to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/206244/, vdrok, devananda? | 17:50 |
dtantsur | vdrok, devananda, wanna discuss conditions of removing -2 (at least replacing with -1) from that network patch? | 17:50 |
devananda | :) | 17:50 |
vdrok | So, re multitenancy, I can move first patch one further down the chain | 17:50 |
devananda | afaik, we were following the approach nova has repeatedly used with long feature patch chains | 17:51 |
vdrok | And add tempest tests for API to the second one | 17:51 |
devananda | which is that all non-API changes are landed first and iterated in -tree | 17:51 |
devananda | and then the REST API changes and all the things that depend on them are done in patches, reviewed, +2'd, etc | 17:51 |
dtantsur | I fully support landing API the last | 17:51 |
rloo | i think that makes sense. The problem was that the API patch was first in the chain. | 17:52 |
vdrok | Ah, yeah, seems possible too | 17:52 |
devananda | when the whole chain is done (enough) and has tests (passing well enough, maybe not 100%) then the PTL removes the -2 at the head of the chain | 17:52 |
rloo | so if vdrok can move the API changes to later in the chain... ? | 17:52 |
devananda | and we massage if needed to land it all pretty quickly | 17:52 |
vdrok | It's a leftover of the old chain | 17:52 |
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rloo | devananda: or does it matter whether the API patch is at the front or end of the chain. Should the first patch be -2 until the entire feature is 'ready'? | 17:52 |
devananda | yea - I'm fine with landing DB and RPC changes and the like. we already did some of those (months ago) | 17:52 |
vdrok | devananda: well, there is an experimental job on the very last patch | 17:53 |
devananda | rloo: first API-affecting patch is -2'd until whole feature is ready | 17:53 |
vdrok | I try to retrigger it every time | 17:53 |
devananda | vdrok: perfect! I looked at the first patch and didn't see it. my bad | 17:53 |
vdrok | But I'm fine with adding tempest API tests to | 17:53 |
rloo | devananda: ok, got it. | 17:53 |
dtantsur | I'm +0 for -2ing the first *API* patch | 17:53 |
dtantsur | -0 for -2ing the first patch touching internals (just to clarify, seems like nobody implies that) | 17:54 |
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devananda | dtantsur: agreed, and that is what we did so far :) | 17:54 |
devananda | several internal patches already landed | 17:54 |
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vdrok | Devananda it's complicated :) last one being https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296432/ | 17:54 |
vdrok | It's not shown in related changes | 17:54 |
devananda | vdrok: yea ... and there were many rebases and refactorings over the last few weeks, whicih, honestly, I didn't follow closely | 17:54 |
devananda | vdrok: not shown? they should all have the same gerrit topic, no? | 17:55 |
dtantsur | vdrok, why do you need ironicclient there? | 17:55 |
vdrok | Yeah, but they are not on top of each other | 17:55 |
vdrok | There is a depends on | 17:55 |
vdrok | Topic is the same I think | 17:55 |
devananda | dtantsur: I suspect that's for devstack, so it can define the new things | 17:55 |
vdrok | devananda: correct | 17:56 |
devananda | vdrok: ah. I see | 17:56 |
dtantsur | devananda, vdrok, in inspector with temporary switch to CURL to avoid such situations | 17:56 |
dtantsur | I know it does not sound cool.. but it does the job | 17:56 |
devananda | this is also what tempst API testing is good for | 17:56 |
thiagop | 2min warning | 17:57 |
devananda | it does not rely on any python-*client libs | 17:57 |
dtantsur | devananda++ I don't get why we need to depend on ironiccleint | 17:57 |
vdrok | Well, it's all already there, so if there is some serious rain I'd keep it with one temp patch :) | 17:57 |
dtantsur | anyway, do we agree to use -2 only on the 1st API-touching patch? | 17:57 |
vdrok | *reason | 17:57 |
devananda | also, to note, the experimental job IS passing! :) | 17:57 |
devananda | http://logs.openstack.org/32/296432/51/experimental/gate-tempest-dsvm-ironic-multitenant-network-nv/c0aefa1/ | 17:57 |
dtantsur | \o/ | 17:57 |
vdrok | ++++ :) | 17:57 |
devananda | dtantsur: WFM | 17:58 |
dtantsur | 2 minutes and I want to have actions items :) | 17:58 |
dtantsur | so, lemme try | 17:58 |
devananda | dtantsur: do we agree that I'll remove that -2 once everything after that patch is +2'd and ready to land? | 17:58 |
vdrok | I'm OK with that | 17:58 |
dtantsur | #action vdrok and others to move API-changing patches further to the end of the chain | 17:58 |
dtantsur | right ^^^? | 17:59 |
vdrok | Yup | 17:59 |
dtantsur | #action devananda will remove his -2 for the 1st API-changing patch as soon as the patches are +2ed and ready for land | 17:59 |
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dtantsur | and we don't have time left :) | 17:59 |
NobodyCam | Thank you all .. and Great job running the meeting dtantsur! | 18:00 |
dtantsur | thanks all! | 18:00 |
dtantsur | #endmeeting ironic | 18:00 |
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vdrok | Thanks all and good night again ;) | 18:00 |
openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jun 27 18:00:10 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
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openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2016/ironic.2016-06-27-17.00.html | 18:00 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2016/ironic.2016-06-27-17.00.txt | 18:00 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2016/ironic.2016-06-27-17.00.log.html | 18:00 |
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devananda | good meeting, folks! see you next time | 18:00 |
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flwang1 | #startmeeting zaqar | 18:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Jun 27 18:01:22 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is flwang1. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'zaqar' | 18:01 |
flwang1 | anybody around? | 18:01 |
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vkmc__ | o/ | 18:05 |
flwang1 | oh my god | 18:05 |
flwang1 | i'm thinking if i should cancel this meeting, again | 18:06 |
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flwang1 | last week, no one show up | 18:06 |
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vkmc__ | Is just the two of us? | 18:06 |
flwang1 | vkmc__: i guess so | 18:06 |
flwang1 | what's your time now? | 18:06 |
vkmc__ | 3.06pm | 18:06 |
flwang1 | ok, i just realized it's a good time for most of you guys, but not me :) | 18:07 |
flwang1 | it's 6 am | 18:07 |
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vkmc__ | Maybe we should change the time... most contributors are based in Asia, right? | 18:07 |
vkmc__ | Oh not good | 18:07 |
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flwang1 | i'm hesitating to do that again, maybe next cycle, depends on the contributors | 18:07 |
vkmc__ | That's fine | 18:08 |
vkmc__ | Agenda? | 18:08 |
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flwang1 | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/zaqar-meeting-agenda | 18:09 |
flwang1 | here is the agenda | 18:09 |
flwang1 | now we're always using the etherpad to track the agenda | 18:09 |
flwang1 | it's handy i think | 18:09 |
flwang1 | than the wiki page | 18:09 |
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flwang1 | we do have some good patches need to reviewed so that we can get them in milestone 2 | 18:10 |
vkmc__ | Yeah :-) | 18:10 |
vkmc__ | Easier to modify | 18:10 |
flwang1 | #link Install guide for ubuntu and suse https://review.openstack.org/333536 | 18:10 |
flwang1 | the install guide is very important for zaqar | 18:11 |
flwang1 | vkmc__: in case you missed this http://www.openstack.org/software/project-navigator/ | 18:11 |
flwang1 | now we have meet 3/8 maturity policies | 18:11 |
flwang1 | and after get the install guide done, we can meet another 1 | 18:12 |
flwang1 | and i also posted a patch to assert zaqar can support cold migration, then we will be able to meet 5/8 | 18:12 |
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flwang1 | that's a very good sign for us | 18:12 |
flwang1 | and another good thing is we can meet the diversity policy now | 18:13 |
vkmc__ | Yeah I remember seeing we have diversity now | 18:13 |
vkmc__ | That's really cool | 18:13 |
vkmc__ | Yeah | 18:13 |
vkmc__ | :-D | 18:13 |
flwang1 | eva-i has a done a great job for the install guide stuff | 18:13 |
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flwang1 | above patch i just added the support for ubuntu and suse | 18:14 |
flwang1 | to get a better coverage | 18:14 |
vkmc__ | Yay Eva! | 18:14 |
flwang1 | #link Trust notifer https://review.openstack.org/329520 | 18:14 |
flwang1 | this is a fantastic patch from therve | 18:15 |
flwang1 | it's a really good notification driver, with that we can support almost all the openstack services as a subscrier | 18:16 |
vkmc__ | Great! | 18:16 |
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vkmc__ | Cool feat | 18:16 |
vkmc__ | I'll check it out | 18:17 |
flwang1 | pls review it | 18:17 |
flwang1 | #link Subscription confirmation https://review.openstack.org/316601 | 18:17 |
vkmc__ | Is it being used for any use case in particular? | 18:17 |
flwang1 | oh, yes, for now, it can be used for mistral | 18:17 |
flwang1 | so that we can get notification and trigger a mistral workflow | 18:17 |
flwang1 | does that make sense? | 18:18 |
flwang1 | you can get more info from the spec | 18:19 |
flwang1 | though it's not titled as 'mistral notification driver' | 18:19 |
vkmc__ | It does yeah | 18:20 |
flwang1 | it can support almost all openstack services, that's why it's awesome | 18:20 |
flwang1 | any more question? | 18:20 |
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vkmc__ | Not right now | 18:23 |
vkmc__ | I'll review later today | 18:23 |
flwang1 | as for the subscription confirmation, its spec has been discussed very long time | 18:24 |
flwang1 | and now the code patch is in reviewing | 18:24 |
flwang1 | those are the patches i would like to highlight | 18:24 |
vkmc__ | K k | 18:25 |
flwang1 | besides, i would like to highlight our newton's goal again | 18:25 |
flwang1 | we will still focus on the docs, client and UI enhancement | 18:26 |
flwang1 | meanwhile we will also do new features if we have bandwidth | 18:26 |
flwang1 | so | 18:26 |
flwang1 | 1. install guide | 18:26 |
flwang1 | 2. api ref | 18:26 |
flwang1 | 3. deprecate v1.1 | 18:27 |
flwang1 | 4. subscription confirmation | 18:27 |
flwang1 | 5. trust notifier | 18:27 |
flwang1 | 6. dead letter queue | 18:27 |
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flwang1 | those are the tasks i would like to completed in N-2, at least N-3 | 18:28 |
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flwang1 | and basically, those are the stuff we want to deliver in Newton | 18:28 |
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flwang1 | #topic Support pre signed queue for zaqar client | 18:30 |
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vkmc | cool | 18:30 |
vkmc | so we have | 18:30 |
vkmc | N-2 | 18:30 |
flwang1 | i'm not sure if we can complete all of them in N-2 | 18:31 |
flwang1 | that needs heavily review | 18:31 |
vkmc | Jul 11-15 | 18:31 |
vkmc | yeah | 18:31 |
vkmc | it's too close | 18:31 |
flwang1 | now we have 7 core reviewers | 18:31 |
flwang1 | we should be able to deliver more reviews than we have done | 18:32 |
vkmc | yeah | 18:33 |
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flwang1 | anyway, i will work on those dirty stuff if nobody want to take it :D | 18:34 |
vkmc | which stuff? the pre signed support? | 18:34 |
flwang1 | anything else? otherwise we will move to open discussion | 18:34 |
flwang1 | vkmc__: yep, since i really want it :D | 18:35 |
vkmc | sounds good :) | 18:35 |
vkmc | ok, nothing else for this | 18:36 |
flwang1 | #topic open discussion | 18:36 |
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flwang1 | summit is coming | 18:36 |
flwang1 | we need to submit some topics | 18:36 |
vkmc | yeah :| | 18:36 |
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flwang1 | personally, i don't want to delivery another session just introduce what's zaqar | 18:37 |
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vkmc | yeah, I think there are plenty of presentations on that | 18:37 |
flwang1 | i would like to see a session to tell people how to use zaqar to resolve their painpoints | 18:37 |
vkmc | I was thinking more on giving a session with the latest integrations | 18:38 |
vkmc | say | 18:38 |
vkmc | Zaqar + Manila | 18:38 |
vkmc | Zaqar + TripleO | 18:38 |
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vkmc | I wouldn't mind to research about the TripleO one | 18:38 |
flwang1 | Zaqar + Manila??? | 18:38 |
vkmc | sorry | 18:38 |
vkmc | Zaqar + Mistral | 18:38 |
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flwang1 | vkmc__: if you can propose a session about how zaqar+ tripleO works, it would be great | 18:39 |
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flwang1 | what i'm thinking about zaqar+ mistral is the autoscaling | 18:39 |
flwang1 | we have integrate with aodh | 18:39 |
vkmc | sounds good | 18:39 |
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flwang1 | and i'm trying to do a demo/presentation about aodh + zaqar + mistral + heat or aodh + zaqar + senlin for autoscaling | 18:40 |
vkmc | :D | 18:40 |
vkmc | w000t | 18:40 |
vkmc | so much integration | 18:40 |
flwang1 | yep | 18:42 |
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flwang1 | vkmc: the dead line is 13 July, iirc | 18:43 |
flwang1 | so be quick | 18:43 |
vkmc | yes it's July 13 | 18:43 |
vkmc | cool | 18:43 |
flwang1 | vkmc: pls keep me in the loop if you need any help | 18:43 |
flwang1 | vkmc: you maybe interested in this patch https://review.openstack.org/319070 | 18:44 |
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vkmc | will do, will share an etherpad link as soon as I start drafting the preso | 18:45 |
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flwang1 | vkmc: sound good | 18:46 |
flwang1 | ok, that's all what i want to discuss today | 18:48 |
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flwang1 | anything else? | 18:49 |
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flwang1 | thank you, vkmc | 18:56 |
flwang1 | #endmeeting | 18:56 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jun 27 18:56:05 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:56 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zaqar/2016/zaqar.2016-06-27-18.01.html | 18:56 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zaqar/2016/zaqar.2016-06-27-18.01.txt | 18:56 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zaqar/2016/zaqar.2016-06-27-18.01.log.html | 18:56 |
vkmc | thanks flwang1! | 18:56 |
flwang1 | #endmeeting | 18:56 |
flwang1 | wow, it doesn't work | 18:56 |
flwang1 | ok, it's lazy | 18:57 |
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