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| robcresswell | #startmeeting horizon | 08:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 4 08:00:20 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is robcresswell. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 08:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 08:00 |
| r1chardj0n3s | o/ | 08:00 |
| robcresswell | Wow, quiet. | 08:01 |
| r1chardj0n3s | well, agreement will come more easily in this meeting :-) | 08:02 |
| r1chardj0n3s | so, what big-ticket decisions should we make? | 08:02 |
| robcresswell | I'll run through the notices for logs/lurkers anyway | 08:02 |
| robcresswell | #topic Notices | 08:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Notices (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 08:02 | |
| robcresswell | I'm planning the midcycle, there'll be a form of some sort out later today(doodle, probably) | 08:03 |
| robcresswell | If anyone wants to volunteer to host or suggest a location, now is the time. | 08:03 |
| robcresswell | #info Midcycle planning - suggested dates will be sent out soon. Potential hosts should also speak up :) | 08:04 |
| robcresswell | For those not at the summit, the etherpads and their notes can be found here: | 08:04 |
| robcresswell | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Design_Summit/Newton/Etherpads#Horizon | 08:05 |
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| robcresswell | #info I've brought back the weekly bug report, which is linked in the horizon irc topic. | 08:06 |
| robcresswell | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Horizon/WeeklyBugReport | 08:06 |
| robcresswell | That's all for notices I think. | 08:06 |
| robcresswell | The only agenda item needs more input, but will mentioned it quickly. | 08:07 |
| robcresswell | will mention* | 08:07 |
| robcresswell | #topic Earlier feature freeze | 08:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Earlier feature freeze (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 08:07 | |
| robcresswell | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-April/093525.html | 08:08 |
| r1chardj0n3s | curses, the archive doesn't follow that discussion well - I guess the message id got lost on the third message | 08:09 |
| robcresswell | If you follow the email chain, you'll see a proposed earlier FF (1 week). Another suggestion is to freeze some aspects, like the horizon lib | 08:09 |
| robcresswell | Ah, it doesnt | 08:09 |
| robcresswell | As it happens, the first two are the valuable ones. | 08:09 |
| robcresswell | The request and the releases meeting reference. | 08:09 |
| r1chardj0n3s | yep | 08:10 |
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| robcresswell | #info Proposed earlier feature freeze (R-6). Should we scope to entire codebase, or just horizon/ ? | 08:11 |
| r1chardj0n3s | that's an interesting proposition! | 08:11 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | I heard someone say that plugins often extend openstack_dashboard panels - it'd be good to get more info on that | 08:12 |
| robcresswell | It was mentioned a lot this cycle, the pain we're causing plugins. | 08:12 |
| r1chardj0n3s | but freezing horizon/ earlier seems reasonable | 08:12 |
| robcresswell | Well for the all the internal Cisco work its almost exclusively extend o_d. | 08:12 |
| robcresswell | Because we add steps to Routers or Networks etc, or new fields in details pages. | 08:12 |
| r1chardj0n3s | right, but hopefully the mechanisms to extend those things are coded in horizon/ | 08:13 |
| robcresswell | The issue is with the content changing late in the game, breaks things. Because you're still consuming a lot of the code in o_d | 08:14 |
| robcresswell | even if the base classes are defined elsewhere | 08:15 |
| r1chardj0n3s | right | 08:15 |
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| robcresswell | Anyway, shifting a week earlier at least gives plugins a bit of breathing room. | 08:16 |
| r1chardj0n3s | agreed | 08:16 |
| robcresswell | I'll be working on adding liaison roles for the active plugins too, so we can keep in contact better | 08:17 |
| robcresswell | I'll bring up this discussion later and then post to the mailer. | 08:17 |
| robcresswell | That's everything on the agenda, so I think you can have your evening back r1chardj0n3s :) | 08:18 |
| r1chardj0n3s | thanks robcresswell :-) | 08:18 |
| robcresswell | #endmeeting | 08:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 08:18 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 4 08:18:40 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:18 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2016/horizon.2016-05-04-08.00.html | 08:18 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2016/horizon.2016-05-04-08.00.txt | 08:18 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2016/horizon.2016-05-04-08.00.log.html | 08:18 |
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| ifat_afek_ | #startmeeting vitrage | 09:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 4 09:00:51 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ifat_afek_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 09:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'vitrage' | 09:00 |
| idan_hefetz | Hi!! | 09:01 |
| ifat_afek_ | he everyone :-) | 09:01 |
| ifat_afek_ | Hi | 09:01 |
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| elisha_r | hey | 09:02 |
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| alexey_weyl | Hello guys ;) | 09:02 |
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| lhartal | hi all.. long time :) | 09:03 |
| ohad | hi everyone | 09:04 |
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| eyalb | hi | 09:04 |
| ifat_afek_ | Our agenda today will be slightly different: | 09:05 |
| ifat_afek_ | * Austin recap, by alexey_weyl and Ohad | 09:05 |
| ifat_afek_ | * Newton release planning | 09:05 |
| ifat_afek_ | Before we begin – we are going to move Vitrage IRC meeting one hour earlier, to 8:00 UTC. It will be on a different channel. We will send an update email with the final details. | 09:06 |
| ifat_afek_ | #topic Austin recap | 09:06 |
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| doffek | hi | 09:06 |
| ohad | update from Austin: | 09:07 |
| ohad | Great week for Vitrage! we introduced Vitrage to the OpenStack community and we got very positive feedback. thanks for everyone for the hard work before the summit, everything worked perfect and very stable. | 09:07 |
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| ohad | Activities: | 09:08 |
| ohad | 1. sessions: we had 2 sessions: | 09:09 |
| ohad | (a) Project Vitrage How to Organize, Analyze and Visualize your OpenStack Cloud I presented Vitrage and Alexey did a great live demo including switch failure coming from Nagios and CPU failure from AODH.of course both use cases included raising deduced alarms, deduced states and showing root cause analysis. | 09:10 |
| ohad | #link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Qw5coTLgMo | 09:10 |
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| ohad | (b) On the Path to Telco Cloud Openness: Nokia CloudBand Vitrage & OPNFV Doctor collaboration Gerald.K from Doctor OPNFV project presented Doctor requirements for fault management and I presented Vitrage | 09:10 |
| ohad | #link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey68KNKXc5c | 09:11 |
| ohad | 2. Vitrage Booth: we had a booth in the market place. we did a lot of live demos (3-5 demos every hour!) and again we got very good feedback. | 09:11 |
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| ifat_afek_ | I think ohad was disconnected... | 09:14 |
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| emalin | hi | 09:15 |
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| ohad_ | 3. Meetings: | 09:15 |
| ohad_ | (a) design session with AODH | 09:16 |
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| ohad_ | alexey_weyl: can update on our meeting with AODH? | 09:16 |
| alexey_weyl | Yes, of course | 09:16 |
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| alexey_weyl | First of all, we can see here the summary of the design session with AODH in the etherpad | 09:17 |
| alexey_weyl | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-telemetry-vitrage | 09:17 |
| alexey_weyl | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-telemetry-vitrage | 09:17 |
| alexey_weyl | A quick update about all the details | 09:17 |
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| alexey_weyl | 1. We have talked with the team about adding external notifications from aodh | 09:18 |
| alexey_weyl | They agreed that such a feature needs to be in AODH, and they might even have that, they only need to understand how to configure it | 09:18 |
| alexey_weyl | 2. Alarm name uniqueness - In aodh 2 alarms with the same name can't be defined. They said that this was a Wrong API feature, and that we can send them a patch to change it | 09:20 |
| alexey_weyl | 3. New alarm type - We have showed to aodh that we need a new alarm type in aodh ("custom alarm"), so Vitrage will be able to push new alarms to aodh | 09:21 |
| alexey_weyl | which aren't event or threshold | 09:21 |
| alexey_weyl | they agreed as well that we should have such an alarm, and that we should contribute it to AODH | 09:21 |
| alexey_weyl | In addition, we have explained the team about Vitrage and showed the a demo of 2 use cases of Nagios and aodh alarms | 09:22 |
| alexey_weyl | That's it for now | 09:22 |
| ohad | sorry, I had connectivity issue | 09:22 |
| ohad | thanks | 09:23 |
| ohad | (b) Doctor OPNFV project - we have discussion to kick off preparations for the joint booth demo planned for OPNFV summit in Berlin in June. | 09:23 |
| ohad | (c) Monasca - discussion on possible integration for Newton. Monasca can be additional data source for Vitrage. we will continue to work together on this. | 09:25 |
| ohad | (d) Congress - discussion on possible integration for Newton. | 09:25 |
| alexey_weyl | I will add some more | 09:25 |
| alexey_weyl | We also had a meeting with the OPNFV \ NFV team in Red Hat | 09:26 |
| alexey_weyl | It was a good meeting, we showed and explained them about Vitrage, and they were really excited about that | 09:26 |
| alexey_weyl | Had very good feedbacks as well | 09:26 |
| ifat_afek_ | ohad, alexey_weyl: sounds great! thanks for the update | 09:27 |
| ifat_afek_ | #topic Newton release planning | 09:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Newton release planning (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 09:27 | |
| ifat_afek_ | Since there was no Vitrage design session in Austin, we are going to use the next one-two meetings for the planning. I opened an etherpad for this purpose: | 09:27 |
| ifat_afek_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/vitrage-newton-planning | 09:28 |
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| ifat_afek_ | Also, everyone is welcome to add blueprints in our lanuchpad: | 09:28 |
| ifat_afek_ | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/vitrage | 09:28 |
| ifat_afek_ | go ahead and add stuff :-) I wrote just a few | 09:29 |
| alexey_weyl | i will add another task: | 09:29 |
| alexey_weyl | Multi-tenancy support - Admin adds templates, tenants can have a view only of tenant scope | 09:29 |
| alexey_weyl | another one: Overlapping Templates Support (critical usability improvement) | 09:30 |
| eyalb | I want to update that we pushed code to fix python 3.4 support | 09:30 |
| eyalb | both vitrage and vitrage client | 09:31 |
| ohad | I added puppet installation | 09:33 |
| alexey_weyl | Heat plugin for Vitrage | 09:33 |
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| emalin | I would add support of multiple transformers to one datasource | 09:34 |
| emalin | I mean requirement for support of multiple transformers to one datasource | 09:34 |
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| ifat_afek_ | emalin: sure, you can edit our etherpad directly. I sent a link earlier | 09:35 |
| ifat_afek_ | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/vitrage-newton-planning | 09:35 |
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| emalin | ifat_afek_ 10x | 09:39 |
| alexey_weyl | Looks good :) | 09:39 |
| ohad | it's a good start, let's continue to fill it and agree on the plan for Newton in the next meeting | 09:39 |
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| elisha_r | Coming along nicely - nice and colorful etherpad :) | 09:42 |
| ifat_afek_ | lots of work :-) Newton release will be interesting | 09:43 |
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| ifat_afek_ | cool, so let's take the time to think about it, and continue the discussion next time. I'll send a link to openstack ML, so other people might add their ideas | 09:44 |
| ifat_afek_ | #topic Open Discussion | 09:44 |
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| ifat_afek_ | anyone wants to raise anything? | 09:44 |
| ifat_afek_ | if not - then I have an issue | 09:45 |
| ifat_afek_ | we should consider when would be a good time to apply to the TC and ask them to accept Vitrage as an official project | 09:45 |
| ifat_afek_ | your thoughts? | 09:45 |
| ifat_afek_ | I feel we are ready :-) | 09:45 |
| alexey_weyl | Sounds great :) I think we are on the right path :) | 09:46 |
| ohad | +1 | 09:46 |
| ohad | we are more than ready | 09:46 |
| elisha_r | +1 | 09:46 |
| eyalb | +100 | 09:46 |
| ifat_afek_ | ok, if you are all for it, then I'll check the exact procedure and update you next week | 09:47 |
| ifat_afek_ | any other discussions? | 09:47 |
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| ifat_afek_ | so I guess we are done. goodbye everybody | 09:48 |
| eyalb | bye | 09:48 |
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| ifat_afek_ | #endmeeting | 09:48 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 4 09:48:55 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:48 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2016/vitrage.2016-05-04-09.00.html | 09:48 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2016/vitrage.2016-05-04-09.00.txt | 09:48 |
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| lpetrut | Hi guys | 13:00 |
| abalutoiu | Hi | 13:00 |
| sagar_nikam | Hi | 13:01 |
| lpetrut | #startmeeting hyper-v | 13:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 4 13:01:31 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lpetrut. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'hyper_v' | 13:01 |
| lpetrut | #topic Openstack summit aftermath | 13:02 |
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| lpetrut | so, we had some really productive meetings with the freezer, monasca, magnum and designate guys | 13:03 |
| sagar_nikam | lpetrut: that's nice | 13:03 |
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| lpetrut | we held the winstackers session as well, but unfortunately none of your guys made it to the session | 13:04 |
| lpetrut | here's a link to the etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-winstackers-design-session | 13:04 |
| lpetrut | the topics mentioned here are roughly pointing out what we are planning to do for Newton | 13:05 |
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| lpetrut | #topic Shielded VMs | 13:05 |
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| sagar_nikam | lpetrut: had a question on summit meetings | 13:06 |
| lpetrut | sure | 13:06 |
| sagar_nikam | from the etherpad, you gave, we will have lot of nice support in Newton | 13:07 |
| sagar_nikam | what are the plans for monasca , freezer and designate | 13:07 |
| domi007 | hi all | 13:07 |
| sagar_nikam | i see only magnum in the etherpad | 13:07 |
| lpetrut | Hi domi | 13:07 |
| lpetrut | #topic freezer | 13:07 |
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| lpetrut | so, we talked with the guys, and first, we are planning to refactor the existing Windows related bits | 13:08 |
| sagar_nikam | ok, to use pyMI ? | 13:08 |
| lpetrut | this will go in os-win | 13:08 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:08 |
| lpetrut | actually, they support older Windows versions such as Windows 7, Windows Server 2008, etc. and we'll have to use the old wmi lib in that case | 13:09 |
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| lpetrut | this also means that we won't be able to drop the pywin32 lib in this case | 13:09 |
| lpetrut | *dependency | 13:09 |
| sagar_nikam | as part of newton, are we planning feature parity with linux in freezer or only important use cases ? | 13:09 |
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| lpetrut | so, they were already leveraging VSS, we are planning to improve this, and use the Hyper-V VSS provider as well | 13:11 |
| lpetrut | we may also provide an MSI for freezer | 13:11 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:11 |
| domi007 | sounds cool | 13:12 |
| sagar_nikam | lpetrut: let me know if your team needs any info from freezer core team, i can try to reach them | 13:13 |
| sagar_nikam | or for reviews as well | 13:13 |
| lpetrut | sagar_nikam: sure | 13:13 |
| sagar_nikam | these changes are planned in newton ? | 13:13 |
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| lpetrut | yep, I think we'll get everything in during Newton. At the moment, freezer is going through a refactoring, but we'll get the specs and os-win side code in ASAP | 13:14 |
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| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:14 |
| lpetrut | at some point, we'll need to have a CI as well | 13:15 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:15 |
| lpetrut | ok, next topic | 13:16 |
| sagar_nikam | monasca ? | 13:16 |
| lpetrut | #topic monasca | 13:16 |
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| lpetrut | ensuring Windows support for Monasca seems pretty straight forward, leveraging stuff that we already had for Ceilometer | 13:17 |
| sagar_nikam | ok, thats good | 13:18 |
| sagar_nikam | there was one issue we had seen | 13:18 |
| lpetrut | cbelu sent a patch updating the existing Monasca windows agent to use os-win: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/311925/ | 13:18 |
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| sagar_nikam | the existing agent does not start on windows | 13:18 |
| sagar_nikam | i mean monasca agent | 13:19 |
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| sagar_nikam | the patch above is in os-win, can you post the monasca patch as well | 13:20 |
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| lpetrut | not sure about the status of this agent, but I think that the patch Claudiu submitted may fix this issue | 13:20 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:20 |
| lpetrut | #topic magnum | 13:22 |
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| lpetrut | Claudiu Belu has spoke with dims, and it seems like we should make sure that kubernetes or docker swarm work on Windows | 13:23 |
| sagar_nikam | monasca support also planned in newton > | 13:23 |
| lpetrut | yep | 13:23 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:23 |
| sagar_nikam | WIN 2016 has support for docker | 13:23 |
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| sagar_nikam | atleast TP4 | 13:24 |
| sagar_nikam | had it | 13:24 |
| lpetrut | yep | 13:24 |
| domi007 | looks promisimg | 13:24 |
| sagar_nikam | is that sufficient or we also need kubernetes ? | 13:24 |
| sagar_nikam | for magnum support | 13:24 |
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| lpetrut | we'll also need kubernetes | 13:26 |
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| sagar_nikam | lpetrut: both docker-swarm and kubernetes needed for it to make to magnum ? | 13:27 |
| lpetrut | I think one of them is enough for now | 13:28 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:28 |
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| sagar_nikam | support for windows in magnum depends on WIN 2016 release date ? | 13:29 |
| sagar_nikam | if WIN 2016 does not get released by newton, what is our plan ? | 13:30 |
| lpetrut | I think we can have the code in regardless of the WS 2016 release date | 13:30 |
| sagar_nikam | ok cool | 13:30 |
| domi007 | do we have any other topics? | 13:33 |
| lpetrut | #topic designate | 13:33 |
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| lpetrut | so, adding Windows support over here seems to be pretty straight forward, as Designate will do zone transfers to manage records | 13:34 |
| sagar_nikam | i think designate already has some windows support, not sure how much though | 13:34 |
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| lpetrut | not really sure about the current status, but I'm sure we'll focus on it during Newton | 13:36 |
| lpetrut | so, going back to shielded vms | 13:36 |
| lpetrut | #topic Shielded VMs | 13:37 |
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| lpetrut | as TP5 is out, Iulia managed to push the updated code | 13:37 |
| lpetrut | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283564/ - os-win | 13:37 |
| lpetrut | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283567/ - compute-hyperv | 13:37 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:37 |
| lpetrut | there will also be a tool, easing the way in which pdk files are generated | 13:37 |
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| sagar_nikam | plan to upstream it ? in newton ? | 13:37 |
| lpetrut | yep, hopefully | 13:38 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:38 |
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| lpetrut | any other topics you guys would like to discuss? | 13:39 |
| domi007 | yes, I tried to ceate a haproxy + freerdp setup | 13:39 |
| sagar_nikam | in newton, we will support cluster driver, FC, monasca, freezer, designate and magnum | 13:40 |
| sagar_nikam | lots of new features | 13:40 |
| sagar_nikam | nice progress | 13:40 |
| domi007 | and freerdp dies because of haproxy's monitoring requests | 13:40 |
| lpetrut | the cluster driver is already supported in mitaka, but only by the compute-hyperv driver (not the in-tree one) | 13:40 |
| domi007 | I think I commented on an issue dealing with a similar error | 13:40 |
| lpetrut | domi007: did you get in touch with our guy working on FreeRDP, Cosmin Muntean? | 13:41 |
| sagar_nikam | freerdp - i have observed one issue, sometimes, keystrokes dont work in the console, only clicks work | 13:41 |
| sagar_nikam | after restart of freerdp service, keystrokes work again | 13:42 |
| domi007 | sagar_nikam: did you click in the grey bar before that? | 13:42 |
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| domi007 | lpetrut: let me get the github issue and see | 13:42 |
| sagar_nikam | domi007: no, i was able to type earlier some commands, and then i find that keystrokes fail | 13:43 |
| sagar_nikam | have seen in 2-3 times | 13:43 |
| lpetrut | by what I heard, there were some race conditions, not sure if those were fixed by now. Anyway, as soon as you find an issue, please file it on ask.cloudbase.it or the github repo and somebody will be on it ASAP | 13:44 |
| sagar_nikam | domi007: using ha-proxy, with freerdp- how is your experience ? | 13:44 |
| domi007 | lpetrut: is his github name c64cosmin? | 13:45 |
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| domi007 | he commented on the issue | 13:45 |
| lpetrut | yep | 13:45 |
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| domi007 | sagar_nikam: I wanted to test it out but I hit the issue mentioned above | 13:46 |
| sagar_nikam | domi007: can you give me the link ? | 13:46 |
| sagar_nikam | for the issue | 13:46 |
| domi007 | lpetrut: okay, he promised a new version 7 days ago | 13:46 |
| domi007 | so I guess he is working on it | 13:46 |
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| domi007 | sagar_nikam: https://github.com/FreeRDP/FreeRDP-WebConnect/issues/127 | 13:47 |
| lpetrut | got it, I'll try to sync with him. Since we had a lot of talk around FreeRDP during the recent meetings, maybe he'll be able to join as well | 13:47 |
| domi007 | great. it seems like a good PoC software but lacks in some robustness | 13:48 |
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| domi007 | but it's great he is fixing it | 13:48 |
| sagar_nikam | lpetrut: how does freerdp scale ? | 13:48 |
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| sagar_nikam | if we install it one machine with good RAM and CPU, how many RDP consoles can it support ? | 13:49 |
| sagar_nikam | i mean RDP consoles from horizon UI | 13:49 |
| lpetrut | not sure ATM, but I guess it would make sense to do some stress testing and see what can be improved | 13:50 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:51 |
| domi007 | that'd be great :) | 13:51 |
| sagar_nikam | domi007: are you planning stress testing of freerdp ? | 13:51 |
| domi007 | sagar_nikam: no, we don't really have resources for that. The only stress test I did was trying to use haproxy with it but that killed it fast :) | 13:53 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:53 |
| sagar_nikam | i am trying to use NLB cluster for FreeRDP | 13:54 |
| sagar_nikam | instead of ha-proxy | 13:54 |
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| domi007 | in other news we are testing ovs 2.5 with Liberty...sadly a Mitaka patch needed to cheery picked into Liberty, now we are testing if it works with that | 13:54 |
| sagar_nikam | providing the NLB cluster IP in nova.conf | 13:55 |
| domi007 | sagar_nikam: that shouldn't make much difference, what are your results? | 13:55 |
| sagar_nikam | just starting, | 13:55 |
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| sagar_nikam | should have the results in next meeting hopefully | 13:55 |
| domi007 | sagar_nikam: Great! | 13:56 |
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| domi007 | my experience was that it died so fast i wasn't able to see it working at all :) hope it's better for you | 13:56 |
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| sagar_nikam | standalone freerdp, not usin NLB cluster, worked for me, but i did not try keep the console open for long | 13:58 |
| sagar_nikam | i may hit the issue you are mentioning if i keep the console open for long and try some operations | 13:58 |
| lpetrut | looks like we have only a couple of minutes left, anything else? | 13:59 |
| domi007 | I don't have anything :) | 13:59 |
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| lpetrut | ok, thanks guys | 13:59 |
| sagar_nikam | nothing much from my side, i hope all the patches/features we are planning in newton gets merged | 13:59 |
| sagar_nikam | fast | 13:59 |
| lpetrut | #endmeeting | 13:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 4 13:59:58 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2016/hyper_v.2016-05-04-13.01.html | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2016/hyper_v.2016-05-04-13.01.txt | 14:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2016/hyper_v.2016-05-04-13.01.log.html | 14:00 |
| ajo | qos folks around? | 14:00 |
| ajo | I'm looped in in a meeting I cannot leave yet | 14:00 |
| ajo | in in -> in :) | 14:00 |
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| rhochmuth | #startmeeting monasca | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 4 15:00:02 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rhochmuth. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'monasca' | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | o/ | 15:00 |
| bklei | o/ | 15:00 |
| fabiog | o/ | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-team-meeting-agenda | 15:00 |
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| rhochmuth | hi everyone | 15:00 |
| mhoppal | hello | 15:00 |
| bklei | hi | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | it looks like we have a full agenda | 15:00 |
| jayahn | hi | 15:00 |
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| rbak | o/ | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | hi jayahn | 15:01 |
| witek | hello | 15:01 |
| jayahn | good to see you here :) | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | is everyone recovered from last week | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | i'm not | 15:01 |
| witek | :) | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | so, there is an agenda that i posted the link for up above | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | the first topic is mic-cycle planning | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | #topic mid-cycle | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "mid-cycle (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:02 | |
| witek | we would be interested in hosting mid-cycle in Munich | 15:02 |
| witek | at the end of July | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | i put in a travel request with my mgmt | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | but, haven't heard back yet | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | i only asked last night | 15:03 |
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| fabiog | I can do it in Munich only 07/27-29 | 15:03 |
| bklei | i still need to get permission | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | hopefully, i'll know more in a couple of days | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | so, July 27, 28 and 29 | 15:04 |
| bklei | will others be able to travel to munich? | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | who cares | 15:04 |
| bklei | :) | 15:04 |
| fabiog | rhochmuth: don't be mean | 15:04 |
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| jayahn | i will not be able to travel to there.. almost for sure. | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | sorry, sometimes my fingers type on there own | 15:05 |
| fabiog | alternatively Cisco could host it in SJC July 19 to 21 | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | so, we'll need to get a head-count on who can travel | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | and see if this makes sense | 15:05 |
| witek | we can set a doodle for that | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | let's try to get travel requests done by next week | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | ok, that sounds good too | 15:06 |
| rhochmuth | jayahn, i don't recognoize your irc | 15:06 |
| rhochmuth | can you introduce yourself | 15:06 |
| jayahn | ah. yeap. | 15:06 |
| jayahn | this is Jaesuk Ahn from skt. | 15:06 |
| jayahn | from Korea, and it is midnight here. :) | 15:07 |
| rhochmuth | ohh, got it | 15:07 |
| rhochmuth | thanks for attending | 15:07 |
| jayahn | no problem. | 15:07 |
| rhochmuth | we are also talking about a new time slot for meetings | 15:07 |
| rhochmuth | so, witek, you are going to create a doodle | 15:08 |
| rhochmuth | that will be great | 15:08 |
| witek | yes, for mid-cycle | 15:08 |
| rhochmuth | i think i'm available for travel anytime | 15:08 |
| rhochmuth | just don't know about travel budget | 15:08 |
| witek | #action Witek sets doodle for mid-cycle | 15:08 |
| rhochmuth | ok, let's sync-up next week on this topic and see if we can do a mid-cycle | 15:09 |
| jayahn | for meeting time, midnight is not that bad for me. we can keep the current time. | 15:09 |
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| fabiog | I got the doodle up | 15:10 |
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| witek | :) | 15:10 |
| fabiog | witek: sorry I was doing it without paying attention to the chat | 15:10 |
| fabiog | http://doodle.com/poll/x6bf8ev6wvenfkdy | 15:10 |
| rhochmuth | fabiog is a doodle master | 15:10 |
| witek | np | 15:10 |
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| fabiog | rhochmuth: I should change my biz title into that :-) | 15:10 |
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| rhochmuth | Fabiog, Doodle Master Extrodianaire | 15:11 |
| rhochmuth | at your service | 15:11 |
| rhochmuth | Let's move on | 15:11 |
| rhochmuth | #topic stable branch | 15:11 |
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| rhochmuth | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/306303/ | 15:12 |
| witek | yes, we have that obvious bug in monasca-ui | 15:12 |
| witek | in my opinion we should mergre into stable | 15:12 |
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| bklei | i'm not sure about that -- i think we use /static at twc | 15:13 |
| witek | hm | 15:14 |
| bklei | will confirm and add a comment to review | 15:14 |
| witek | OK, thanks | 15:14 |
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| rhochmuth | thanks bklei | 15:15 |
| bklei | could you set STATIC_URL to / and have it work witek? | 15:15 |
| rhochmuth | #topic reviews | 15:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "reviews (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:15 | |
| witek | but this would change the location of other static resources, right? | 15:16 |
| bklei | yeah -- i guess so | 15:16 |
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| bklei | we can move on - will confirm if this patch would work for us | 15:17 |
| rhochmuth | so there is revice https://review.openstack.org/#/c/307963/ | 15:17 |
| rhochmuth | fix metric-list limits | 15:18 |
| bklei | twc REALLY wants this | 15:18 |
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| bklei | looks like it's in good shape? | 15:18 |
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| rhochmuth | ok, i'll review today, and probably end up merging | 15:18 |
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| bklei | awesome | 15:19 |
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| rhochmuth | witek, are you ok with this one | 15:19 |
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| witek | I haven't reviewed :( | 15:19 |
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| rhochmuth | it is basically a bug fix on metrics list | 15:19 |
| rhochmuth | So, there is, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289675/ | 15:20 |
| rhochmuth | i started reviewing this yesterday | 15:20 |
| rhochmuth | bklei, it looks like you've +1'd that one | 15:20 |
| rhochmuth | have you done any performance testing at twc | 15:21 |
| bklei | just functional testing, no perf tests yet | 15:21 |
| rhochmuth | also, to see the benefits of this change, you'll need to modify grafana 2 | 15:21 |
| rhochmuth | or rbak will | 15:21 |
| bklei | yeah -- rbak is eager to do that :) | 15:21 |
| rhochmuth | ok, assuming i get time today, i'll do a review and merge | 15:22 |
| rhochmuth | this shouldn't impact anyone | 15:22 |
| bklei | great -- yeah, shouldn't break any existing code path | 15:22 |
| rhochmuth | the new capability is only enable if the group_by is specify as a qwuery param | 15:22 |
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| rhochmuth | so, this is low-risk | 15:22 |
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| rhochmuth | i'm assuming it will be merged today | 15:23 |
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| rhochmuth | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/306621/ | 15:23 |
| bklei | that's me | 15:23 |
| bklei | i think i've rolled in feedback to date | 15:23 |
| rhochmuth | well, you didn't get my feedback | 15:24 |
| rhochmuth | :-) | 15:24 |
| bklei | any objection to this given the larger conversation with the neutron ptl? | 15:24 |
| bklei | :) | 15:24 |
| rhochmuth | i'll start reviewing this one too | 15:24 |
| rhochmuth | we didnt' discuss this with armando | 15:24 |
| rhochmuth | but, we could add him to the review | 15:24 |
| bklei | cool. i'm guessing if we get neutron to start pushing data to monasca, it will give us more than this. but this is the bare minimum our customers are asking for | 15:25 |
| bklei | sure, will add him | 15:25 |
| bklei | but i'm guessing, based on the conversations with him -- real code is years away :) | 15:25 |
| bklei | is it armando dominguez? | 15:25 |
| rhochmuth | Armando Migliaccio | 15:26 |
| bklei | thx | 15:26 |
| rhochmuth | he was at the 4th session last Wednesday | 15:27 |
| bklei | added him | 15:27 |
| rhochmuth | did you meet him | 15:27 |
| bklei | i was in that session, but didn't talk with him directly | 15:27 |
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| bklei | i did talk with maryam tahhan -- she was thinking about doing something similar to my patch, so i added her | 15:27 |
| rhochmuth | i'll add some folks from the hpe neutron team as well | 15:27 |
| bklei | cool | 15:27 |
| rhochmuth | like ed bak, ryan's dad | 15:28 |
| bklei | +1 | 15:28 |
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| slogan_ | small world | 15:28 |
| rhochmuth | hi syd | 15:28 |
| slogan_ | morning | 15:28 |
| slogan_ | sick as a dog, caught something on the flight back | 15:28 |
| rhochmuth | yes, ed and ryan might be the first father son team in openstack | 15:28 |
| slogan_ | that's awesome | 15:28 |
| rhochmuth | we might have an entire generation of openstackers | 15:29 |
| rhochmuth | next | 15:29 |
| rhochmuth | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286281/ | 15:29 |
| rhochmuth | the infamous vertica hint | 15:29 |
| rhochmuth | ok, will review | 15:29 |
| bklei | :) that's me too | 15:29 |
| bklei | thx. turned out to be pretty small change | 15:30 |
| bklei | and keeps existing behavior, unless the cfg setting is there | 15:30 |
| rhochmuth | btw, what happened with removing the temp tables | 15:30 |
| rhochmuth | isn't there code that needs to be submitted for that one too | 15:30 |
| bklei | yes, i'm on the hook for that | 15:31 |
| bklei | hope to get to that next week | 15:31 |
| rhochmuth | ok, sounds good | 15:31 |
| rhochmuth | are you using that change in prodiuction already? | 15:31 |
| bklei | i'd tested it, but needed cleanup. it works though | 15:31 |
| bklei | no -- not using the change yet | 15:32 |
| rhochmuth | ok, will wait for your review | 15:32 |
| bklei | so far, we haven't carried anything local | 15:32 |
| bklei | cool | 15:32 |
| rhochmuth | we're going to be picking up some of these changes too | 15:32 |
| bklei | yeah -- that one in particular should really help vertica | 15:32 |
| bklei | KV -- we'll see | 15:32 |
| rhochmuth | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/251674/ | 15:33 |
| rhochmuth | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285000 | 15:33 |
| bklei | that one and the next go together | 15:33 |
| rhochmuth | Joe Keen is working on that | 15:33 |
| bklei | yeah -- until this gets fixed, the rally tests we're trying to push for monasca are on hold | 15:33 |
| rhochmuth | Ahhh, I see | 15:34 |
| bklei | python client needs to be in global reqs for rally tests to work with monasca | 15:34 |
| rhochmuth | So, I'm assumign Joe will try and get this resolved fairly soon | 15:34 |
| bklei | awesome | 15:34 |
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| jkeen | bklei, do you know how much of Monasca needs to be in the projects.txt for your tests to work? | 15:34 |
| rhochmuth | shoudl probably reach out to him if it starts getting delayed again | 15:34 |
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| bklei | jkeen -- not sure, i can connect you with yan, who knows more than me (via email) | 15:35 |
| jkeen | That would be great. | 15:35 |
| bklei | thx | 15:36 |
| rhochmuth | so while we have joe and michael i wanted to let folks know about periodic notifications | 15:36 |
| rhochmuth | #topic periodic notifications | 15:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "periodic notifications (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:37 | |
| rhochmuth | joe, can you post link to blueprint? | 15:37 |
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| mhoppal | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/monasca/+spec/heat-integration | 15:39 |
| rhochmuth | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296813/ | 15:39 |
| mhoppal | basically we are adding in the ability to send a notfiication over and over at a given period until the state of the alarm it is associated with changes | 15:40 |
| rhochmuth | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/310534/ | 15:40 |
| rhochmuth | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308502/ | 15:40 |
| mhoppal | we are only allowing this on webhooks, we are doing this for heat autoscaling | 15:40 |
| bklei | so we're saying 0 or 1 -- but should it be 0 or n? | 15:40 |
| mhoppal | for now 0 or 1 | 15:40 |
| jkeen | 0 or 1 makes the problem much easier for now. | 15:40 |
| mhoppal | but going forward we left it open to add more intervals | 15:40 |
| jkeen | We can expand that later to a larger predefined set of intervals. | 15:40 |
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| mhoppal | pretty easy to add more intervals | 15:40 |
| bklei | ok, and heat works with 1 minute re-alarms? | 15:40 |
| rhochmuth | do we want units in minutes or seconds | 15:41 |
| bklei | like -- is that what ceilometer does? | 15:41 |
| jkeen | Yes, heat requested that timing. | 15:41 |
| bklei | perfect | 15:41 |
| rhochmuth | so, i have a couple of comments i'll add to the reviews | 15:42 |
| rhochmuth | this does involve a schema change to mysql | 15:42 |
| rhochmuth | postres, … | 15:42 |
| rhochmuth | right? | 15:42 |
| mhoppal | yes and also adding another kafka topic | 15:42 |
| bklei | oooh, we'll need to track that in our puppet module | 15:43 |
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| rhochmuth | yup | 15:43 |
| bklei | could you add the topic details to the blueprint? | 15:43 |
| bklei | or is it in the docs in one of your reviews | 15:43 |
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| jkeen | I can add more information to the blueprint | 15:44 |
| bklei | gracias | 15:44 |
| rhochmuth | basically schema changes for databases and kafka changes | 15:44 |
| bklei | ok, hopefully we'll have an upgrade path? | 15:45 |
| rhochmuth | what's an upgrade path? | 15:45 |
| witek | bklei: schema update script? | 15:45 |
| bklei | upgrading the mysql schema | 15:45 |
| bklei | yeah | 15:45 |
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| bklei | (we can't drop the db and start over) | 15:46 |
| rhochmuth | we don't do db migrations, if that is what you mean | 15:46 |
| bklei | yup | 15:46 |
| rhochmuth | i think it is just the addition of a column | 15:46 |
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| bklei | ok, so an alter table command | 15:46 |
| rhochmuth | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308502/13/devstack/files/schema/mon_mysql.sql | 15:46 |
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| rhochmuth | currently called periodic_interval at the link above | 15:46 |
| bklei | not too bad, we can migrate that ourselves | 15:47 |
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| rhochmuth | yes, just alter table | 15:47 |
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| rhochmuth | possible name change on the column based on feedback | 15:47 |
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| bklei | ok, we'll just need to remember to add the column when we pull that in | 15:48 |
| bklei | thx | 15:48 |
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| rhochmuth | ok, will close on that topic then and look for feedback on reviews | 15:48 |
| rhochmuth | i'm guessing this is a week or two from merging | 15:48 |
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| rhochmuth | on a side-note, we are looking into dropping the mysql from the api, and just have sqla | 15:49 |
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| rhochmuth | also, looking into the notification engine | 15:50 |
| rhochmuth | #topic vitrage | 15:51 |
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| rhochmuth | so we had some interesting discussions with vitrage at the summit | 15:51 |
| rhochmuth | they would like to integrate with monasca | 15:51 |
| rhochmuth | i posted some requirements that they listed | 15:51 |
| slogan_ | where? | 15:51 |
| rhochmuth | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-team-meeting-agenda | 15:51 |
| slogan_ | ah, ok | 15:52 |
| rhochmuth | i don;'t think we'll have time to discuss today unfortunately | 15:52 |
| rhochmuth | but, i wanted to tee that one up | 15:52 |
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| slogan_ | the alarm CRUD operations seems like good things to have | 15:53 |
| rhochmuth | yeah, i think that makes sense, but i think it is more complicated than oru early discussions led us to believe | 15:53 |
| rhochmuth | so, we'll need to have some design sessions on this one | 15:54 |
| rhochmuth | on this topic | 15:54 |
| rhochmuth | witek: does everythign make sense for the sproadic metrics and the latched alarms | 15:54 |
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| witek | yes, Tomasz rewrites his change in monasca-thresh | 15:55 |
| rhochmuth | ok, hopefully we got it this time around | 15:55 |
| witek | he has put what he's done sofar to gerrit | 15:56 |
| witek | comments are wellcome :) | 15:56 |
| rhochmuth | ok, i'll start taking a look | 15:57 |
| rhochmuth | and i'll ping craig | 15:57 |
| rhochmuth | so, we are down to two minutes | 15:57 |
| rhochmuth | and we didnt' cover everything | 15:57 |
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| rhochmuth | also, next week the transform engine will be avaialble for review | 15:58 |
| witek | cool | 15:58 |
| rhochmuth | maybe we need two meetings | 15:58 |
| rhochmuth | a week | 15:58 |
| jayahn | cool | 15:58 |
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| bklei | :( | 15:58 |
| rhochmuth | there is a blueprint on the transform engine | 15:58 |
| rhochmuth | but, the actual design is still in progress of getting posted to the monasca wiki at | 15:59 |
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| rhochmuth | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Monasca#Transform_and_Aggregation_Engine | 15:59 |
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| rhochmuth | Actually, it looks like it is all there | 15:59 |
| rhochmuth | so, please start taking a look | 15:59 |
| rhochmuth | they just published that last night | 15:59 |
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| rhochmuth | we've run out of time again | 16:00 |
| witek | thank you Roland | 16:00 |
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| rhochmuth | i need to close the meeting | 16:00 |
| jayahn | thanks | 16:00 |
| slogan_ | thanks Roland | 16:00 |
| rhochmuth | bye everyone | 16:00 |
| bklei | cya | 16:00 |
| rhochmuth | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 4 16:00:52 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| witek | bye | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2016/monasca.2016-05-04-15.00.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2016/monasca.2016-05-04-15.00.txt | 16:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2016/monasca.2016-05-04-15.00.log.html | 16:00 |
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| markvoelker | #startmeeting defcore | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 4 16:01:01 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is markvoelker. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: defcore)" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'defcore' | 16:01 |
| markvoelker | #chair hogepodge | 16:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: hogepodge markvoelker | 16:01 |
| markvoelker | o/ | 16:01 |
| hogepodge | o/ | 16:01 |
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| markvoelker | #info Meeting Agenda: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DefCorePostAustin.1 | 16:01 |
| catherineD|2 | o/ | 16:01 |
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| markvoelker | Small crowd today...everyone still hung over from Austin? =p | 16:01 |
| docaedo | o/ | 16:02 |
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| catherineD|2 | yea | 16:02 |
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| docaedo | I'm still so deeply buried :) | 16:02 |
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| markvoelker | #info Co-chair hiatuses (hiatusi?) | 16:02 |
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| markvoelker | FYI, Egle is going to be away for a couple of weeks while welcoming a new addition to her family. I'll be away the next two weeks due to business travel. | 16:03 |
| markvoelker | So, in the meantime, email is probably the best way to get a hold of us. =) | 16:03 |
| hogepodge | I'll be running the meetings, but I imagine during that time we'll put major decisions on hold. :-D | 16:03 |
| markvoelker | hogepodge has graciously volunteered to run the meeting next week and the week after. | 16:03 |
| markvoelker | With that, let's dive into today's (probably short) agenda.... | 16:04 |
| markvoelker | #topic Cycle Naming | 16:04 |
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| markvoelker | In today's etherpad you'll find the list of candidate names we received at the Austin summit for the next DefCore cycle. | 16:04 |
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| markvoelker | As you're all aware, there are only two hard problems in computer science: cache invalidation, naming things, and off by one errors. =) | 16:05 |
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| markvoelker | The naming is fairly inconsequential to me personally, but I don't think we have enough quorum today for a vote, so I'll propose that I send out out Doodle poll today to the alias with voting to conclude Friday. | 16:06 |
| markvoelker | Any objections? | 16:06 |
| hogepodge | nope | 16:06 |
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| markvoelker | #action markvoelker to send out a doodle poll for naming the DefCore cycle, voting to conclude Friday | 16:07 |
| markvoelker | OK, moving on...most of the rest of the agenda today is a quick rundown of AI's from Austin so folks know what they're working on | 16:07 |
| hogepodge | add suggestions to the list now if there's a name you like better | 16:07 |
| markvoelker | #topic Gate Fixes | 16:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Gate Fixes (Meeting topic: defcore)" | 16:07 | |
| markvoelker | Several AI's here. hogepodge, anything you want to say about the JSON schema patch? | 16:08 |
| hogepodge | I've written a schema and have tox code in place to check it | 16:08 |
| hogepodge | I need to refactor the tox a bit, and would like a sanity check of the schema. Once we merge it we can update the gate to make it non-voting, and once we're happy with that we can make it voting. | 16:09 |
| catherineD|2 | so we will stop usong the rst schema version ? | 16:09 |
| hogepodge | I generated some of the schema, the rewrote it by hand. | 16:09 |
| hogepodge | catherineD|2: yes? Should we bump the version to 1.5 to keep the historic, since there will be changes to the guidelines (minor for consistency) | 16:10 |
| catherineD|2 | I think so that would be better | 16:10 |
| markvoelker | Right, generally the idea is we've had our schemas documented in the doc/source/schema folder for a while, but haven't been validating them at the gate | 16:10 |
| hogepodge | ok, I'll send the updates today | 16:10 |
| markvoelker | (and have missed several violations) | 16:11 |
| markvoelker | So hopefully this should fix that. Long overdue, IMHO, so thanks for working on it hogepodge. =) | 16:11 |
| hogepodge | yup, and the new formal schema did a really good job of picking up minor violations | 16:11 |
| hogepodge | it was fun | 16:11 |
| catherineD|2 | RefStack relies on the schema to render Guidlines | 16:12 |
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| markvoelker | catherineDl2: so hopefully this should prevent us from breaking you more often. =) | 16:12 |
| catherineD|2 | we will prepare to use the new json format schema .. I think it is better | 16:12 |
| markvoelker | ++ | 16:13 |
| markvoelker | Ok, next item in this topic is doc generation. hogepodge, that's you again. Anything you need clarified? | 16:13 |
| catherineD|2 | hogepodge: give us a heads up before merging this patch ... | 16:13 |
| hogepodge | nope, I just put it there to reinforce that it's on my agenda. I'll speak with the docs team about how to move forward. | 16:13 |
| markvoelker | Just one note: our generated docs currently show all the process docs (2015A, B, 2016A). I'm not sure that's useful. | 16:14 |
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| markvoelker | We should probably show the one that's actually being followed and not the others. | 16:14 |
| hogepodge | +1 | 16:14 |
| catherineD|2 | +1 | 16:14 |
| markvoelker | http://docs-draft.openstack.org/65/311265/3/check/gate-defcore-docs/9ee574a//doc/build/html/ < an example | 16:14 |
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| markvoelker | We might want to rework that page a bit to highlight Guidelines that are currently used for logo programs too I suppose | 16:15 |
| hogepodge | +1 | 16:15 |
| markvoelker | Anyhow, we can take up stuff like that via gerrit, just a couple of things to think about. =) | 16:16 |
| markvoelker | Ok, next item is mine: check next.json | 16:16 |
| markvoelker | I'll have to go back to the Austin pad to clarify, but I think this one was to clean up some minor schema violations and make sure achievements are synced. | 16:17 |
| hogepodge | markvoelker: this seems to overlap under the schema work I'm doing? That will add formal checks for next.json | 16:17 |
| hogepodge | markvoelker: ah, I see | 16:18 |
| markvoelker | hogepodge: exactly what I was going to say =) | 16:18 |
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| markvoelker | So, I'll leave the schema checks to your patch so we don't duplicate effort | 16:18 |
| hogepodge | the script to check achievements will be important. I'm sure there's a lot of drift between scoring and guideline | 16:18 |
| hogepodge | it would be nice if the guideline was the source of truth rather than the scoring document | 16:18 |
| markvoelker | Quite possibly, yes. I have an AI to work on the scoring script too a few bullets down, so I'll take this up there. | 16:19 |
| hogepodge | (but I imagine the scoring document is the source of truth right now) | 16:19 |
| VanL | Where is the scoring doc currently? | 16:19 |
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| markvoelker | VanL: https://github.com/openstack/defcore/blob/master/working_materials/scoring.txt | 16:19 |
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| VanL | markvoelker: Thnx | 16:19 |
| markvoelker | VanL: you may recall that some folks asked for a spreadsheet-friendly version of that...the tabulate_scores.py script in the same directory will also generate a CSV for you if you like | 16:20 |
| VanL | Ok. I remember when it moved off the googlesheet, but lost track after that. | 16:21 |
| markvoelker | Ok,last item on this topic: hogepodge had an AI to clean out the guideline directories. | 16:21 |
| markvoelker | hogepodge: any questions on that one? | 16:21 |
| * markvoelker hears none, so onward... | 16:22 | |
| markvoelker | #topic Testing fixes/additions | 16:23 |
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| catherineD|2 | did we skip this topic Patch for Compute Flag Gap in 2015.07/ | 16:23 |
| markvoelker | catherineDl2: oops, yes...sorry, looking at wrong pad | 16:23 |
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| markvoelker | #topic Patch for Compute Flag Gap 2015.07 | 16:24 |
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| catherineD|2 | I happen to have question about this topic :-) | 16:24 |
| markvoelker | catherineDl2: go for it | 16:24 |
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| catherineD|2 | do we automatically carry the flag test over to the new Guideline? | 16:25 |
| markvoelker | catherineDl2: generally, no. | 16:25 |
| catherineD|2 | do we have process for flag tests carry over ? | 16:25 |
| markvoelker | The idea was generally that we'd review those flags with each new Guideline (usually a thing that whoever is playing point for that project works on) | 16:25 |
| VanL | catherineD|2: To carry over the flag, or carry over the test? | 16:25 |
| catherineD|2 | carry over the flag | 16:26 |
| markvoelker | And of course folks can always request flags once they run into problems during the vendor testing period that starts at each Summit (see timeline in etherpad) | 16:26 |
| * gema sits at the back of the room, quietly | 16:26 | |
| markvoelker | I'm expecting to see some incoming soon, personally (since I know we have some folks with testing in flight). =) | 16:27 |
| markvoelker | catherineDl2: make sense? | 16:27 |
| hogepodge | I'd like us to actively review flags and determine which need to be carried over, and which should be dropped. | 16:27 |
| catherineD|2 | markvoelker: yup thx | 16:27 |
| catherineD|2 | hogepodge: ++ | 16:27 |
| markvoelker | hogepodge: it does seem like an area we could tighten up process around | 16:27 |
| hogepodge | but dropping all means none slip through the cracks, but it leads to inconsistencies like with have with 2015.07 | 16:28 |
| catherineD|2 | hogepodge: I think so | 16:28 |
| markvoelker | hogepodge: I had a request to write up a "how to" for scoring anyway...perhaps I should incorporate this into that and put up something for review? | 16:28 |
| hogepodge | markvoelker: sure | 16:28 |
| markvoelker | Ok, easy enough. | 16:29 |
| catherineD|2 | also with the new "test list" feature added to RefStack .. do we still need to keep the 201x.xx directoroes? | 16:29 |
| markvoelker | #action markvoelker Write up flag inspection in forthcoming Scoring Guide | 16:29 |
| catherineD|2 | directories | 16:30 |
| markvoelker | catherineDl2: hogepodge has an AI from above to remove them.=) | 16:30 |
| catherineD|2 | ok | 16:30 |
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| markvoelker | anything else on this topic? | 16:31 |
| catherineD|2 | nope | 16:31 |
| markvoelker | #topic Regrouping an rescoring of Capabilities for 2016.08 | 16:31 |
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| markvoelker | During discussion in Austin, we noted that the way we group Capabilities is a little inconsistent today | 16:31 |
| markvoelker | (ok, a lot inconsistent) | 16:31 |
| markvoelker | For example: in some cases we have CRUD operations as a single thing, other places not. | 16:32 |
| markvoelker | It would be nice to clean those up and be more consistent. | 16:32 |
| catherineD|2 | I think we need to have a few working sessions for regrouping then rescoring | 16:32 |
| markvoelker | catherineDl2: probably | 16:32 |
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| markvoelker | The general feeling in the room seemed to be (correct me if I'm mis-remembering) that generally grouping CRUD operations together was good | 16:33 |
| catherineD|2 | may need to set criteria for regrouping | 16:33 |
| markvoelker | But there may be a few cases where it's not entirely feasible (those should generally be the exception though, not the rule) | 16:33 |
| hogepodge | +1 | 16:33 |
| luzC | +1 | 16:34 |
| VanL | -1 | 16:34 |
| VanL | That was the problem that lead to the original splitting apart | 16:34 |
| VanL | We had "Compute", with a bunch of random tests under it | 16:35 |
| VanL | The issue was that this capability gave very little visibility into what that meant | 16:35 |
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| VanL | The entire genesis of the move from v1 of the json to v2 was to give more visibility into the capabilities | 16:36 |
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| markvoelker | VanL: right, in this case we're talking about CRUD on a single primitive. So, for example: CRUD on routers is one capability. CRUD on networks is one capability. CRUD on subnets is one capability. | 16:36 |
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| VanL | We did that at first by just leveraging the names rather than looking at the tests | 16:36 |
| markvoelker | Not: CRUD on all things compute-related is one capability. | 16:36 |
| VanL | I still think that capabilities should continue to be fine-grained | 16:37 |
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| VanL | SHould there be cleanup on the tests? Sure, let's make sure the correspondence is there | 16:37 |
| VanL | But we have been down this road, and it ended up being confusing | 16:38 |
| gema | I think from the beginning that the capabilities should reflect API calls, not tests, but many operations are not CRUD | 16:38 |
| markvoelker | VanL: it's a valid opinion. =) The AI owners on this are hogepodge, dwalleck, and catherineDl2. May I suggest that you work with them on an initial proposal and we'll take up the discussion in gerrit? | 16:38 |
| VanL | Sure | 16:39 |
| markvoelker | excellent | 16:39 |
| hogepodge | So we have a choice of moving in two directions, more fine grained and more grouped. I propose that we send up a patch for both? | 16:39 |
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| markvoelker | Ok, anything further on this topic right now? | 16:39 |
| hogepodge | It would be nice to see how they compare. | 16:39 |
| VanL | hogepodge: The patches? | 16:40 |
| markvoelker | hogepodge: sure, sounds reasonable. I'll leave the mechanics to you guys. | 16:40 |
| hogepodge | yes, to see the impact of grouping vs not grouping | 16:40 |
| gema | VanL: I can help | 16:40 |
| gema | VanL: I don't think grouping is the solution either | 16:40 |
| VanL | gema: Great | 16:41 |
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| markvoelker | Cool, sounds like you guys have a path forward. =) I'll look forward to seeing some patches to review. | 16:41 |
| markvoelker | #topic Test Fixes | 16:42 |
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| markvoelker | In the last scoring cycle we identified a few things that needed tests written or tests refactored | 16:42 |
| markvoelker | I think I have most of the AI's on this one right now... | 16:42 |
| markvoelker | Neutron and Glance don't have tests for GET / (version discovery) which is a Capability we've included for Nova and KEystone | 16:43 |
| markvoelker | I spoke with both of those groups about this at the Summit, and wrote up a quick POC for Neutron on the flight now | 16:43 |
| markvoelker | s/now/home/ | 16:43 |
| markvoelker | It's winding it's way through review and needs additional work, but it's progress. | 16:43 |
| markvoelker | Once that one settles out it should be trivial to do likewise for Glance | 16:43 |
| markvoelker | We also identified some tests that use admin credentials | 16:44 |
| markvoelker | Mostly these are for capabilities that are normally exposed to end users, so it's a test issue. | 16:44 |
| markvoelker | I'm planning to work on the Neutron tests to see if we can refactor out the unnecessary admin credential usage | 16:44 |
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| hogepodge | I can take that AI, along with anyone else who might want to work on it. | 16:45 |
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| markvoelker | I think we still need someone to work on the volume-v2-transfer and volume-v2-qos tests though (if refactoring is possible there) | 16:45 |
| hogepodge | Or, we can work on it together. | 16:45 |
| markvoelker | hogepodge: sure, I won't say no to help. =) | 16:45 |
| catherineD|2 | so for the admin tests we do not want to remove or flag the tests until there are fixes ... how do the users know that they fail these test because of admin credential .... just do not want to see them spend time in debugging things that we have identified. | 16:45 |
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| markvoelker | I think they have a common root problem though, so perhaps you want to attack the volumes stuff first? | 16:46 |
| hogepodge | markvoelker: this is where launchpad (a later item in the agenda) can help. We can create tickets with the basic information to reference back to | 16:46 |
| markvoelker | hogepodge: ++ | 16:46 |
| hogepodge | markvoelker: sure. If it's anything like the multi-tenant issue, it should be really easy to fix. | 16:46 |
| markvoelker | catherineDl2: if there are admin tests in an existing Board-approved Guideline, I'm fine with flagging them | 16:46 |
| hogepodge | probably a subclass with a different client | 16:46 |
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| markvoelker | In this case though, the Neutron tests at least are new entries for required status in next.json | 16:47 |
| markvoelker | So I'ld like to try to get those tests refactored before this goes up the Board for approval | 16:47 |
| catherineD|2 | especially for the tests in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299491/ .. .it took me a while to identify the failure causes | 16:47 |
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| catherineD|2 | markvoelker: do we flag tests in the advisory section? | 16:47 |
| catherineD|2 | or just remove? | 16:48 |
| markvoelker | catherineDl2: if we think they can be refactored, I'd just flag them. If we remove them then they'll have to go through a whole new advisory cycle which seems unnecessary if it's just a test issue | 16:48 |
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| catherineD|2 | those are the tests in the advisory section in 2016.01 | 16:48 |
| hogepodge | catherineD|2: I think it's situation dependent. | 16:48 |
| markvoelker | And when flagging them I'd note the Launchpad bug ID that says we're working on the refactor =) | 16:49 |
| catherineD|2 | ok I will send a patch to flag them in 2016.01 | 16:49 |
| markvoelker | hogepodge: right. If we don't think the tests can reasonably be refactored, I'd be fine with dropping them. | 16:49 |
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| markvoelker | Ok, anything further here? | 16:50 |
| markvoelker | #topic Proposed 2.0 schema | 16:51 |
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| markvoelker | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/310621/ | 16:51 |
| markvoelker | I'm not sure if there's much to say about this one right now other than "please review and discuss in gerrit". Anyone have stuff to discuss about it here in the meeting? | 16:51 |
| * markvoelker is looking at the clock | 16:52 | |
| markvoelker | Ok then: | 16:52 |
| markvoelker | #action everyone please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/310621/ | 16:53 |
| markvoelker | #topic Fill Out Issues In Launchpad | 16:53 |
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| markvoelker | I took an AI to start working on adding stuff to LP, which I intend to start sifting through this afternoon. | 16:53 |
| catherineD|2 | Just one announcement ... RefStack IRC meeting is moving from Monday to Tuesday at the same time (19 UTC) | 16:53 |
| markvoelker | I think the stuff we covered today is mostly a good start, but if I miss something then feel free to add it yourself | 16:54 |
| markvoelker | (or bug me) | 16:54 |
| markvoelker | catherineDl2: duly noted, thanks! | 16:54 |
| hogepodge | (pun intended?) | 16:54 |
| markvoelker | hogepodge: but of course =p | 16:54 |
| markvoelker | I don't think I need any additional clarification on this AI, so move on? | 16:55 |
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| markvoelker | #topic Test Spec | 16:56 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Test Spec (Meeting topic: defcore)" | 16:56 | |
| markvoelker | There was a bit of discussion in a couple of different sessions at the summit about some of what's in the etherpad for the test spec | 16:56 |
| markvoelker | (I think some additional notes have been added) | 16:56 |
| gema | shall we give it another week and then get a gerrit commit together? | 16:57 |
| markvoelker | Generally, I think we came to the conclusion that we have enough to shift this over to gerrit and start +1/-1 discussion of it so we can bring up the individual points of debate more clearly | 16:57 |
| gema | sounds good | 16:57 |
| markvoelker | gema: I'll leave the timeline up to you...I'm fine with waiting a week if you think there's more stuff to land in the pad yet. =) | 16:57 |
| gema | markvoelker: I may need a week to collect all the information and distill it | 16:58 |
| markvoelker | gema: no problem | 16:58 |
| gema | markvoelker: will get a commit in | 16:58 |
| gema | hogepodge: make sure all your thoughts are in there somewhere | 16:58 |
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| hogepodge | +1 | 16:58 |
| markvoelker | Two minute warning...anything else on this? | 16:59 |
| markvoelker | #topic Interop issues report | 16:59 |
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| markvoelker | Nothing much to say here other than: probably in the same boat. REady to start moving to gerrit, and we have a little time so I'll probably concentrate on test-fixing and other AI's first | 16:59 |
| markvoelker | Be sure to put your thoughts in the pad if you haven't already | 17:00 |
| markvoelker | And we're out of time | 17:00 |
| markvoelker | Thanks folks! Over to #openstack-defcore | 17:00 |
| markvoelker | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 4 17:00:26 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2016/defcore.2016-05-04-16.01.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2016/defcore.2016-05-04-16.01.txt | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2016/defcore.2016-05-04-16.01.log.html | 17:00 |
| VanL | For those still here: Elena Andromeda Sigler born at 11:00 am. 03May 2016. 6 lb 14 oz. 20.5 inches | 17:02 |
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| SridarK | Hi FWaaS folks | 18:30 |
| padkrish | hi sridar | 18:30 |
| njohnston | hello | 18:30 |
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| padkrish | hello everyone | 18:30 |
| chandanc | Hello | 18:30 |
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| badveli | hello all | 18:30 |
| mfranc213 | hello | 18:30 |
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| mfranc213 | it's nice to see everyone :) | 18:30 |
| SridarK | mfranc213: +1 | 18:31 |
| SridarK | #startmeeting Networking FWaaS | 18:31 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 4 18:31:08 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SridarK. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:31 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Networking FWaaS)" | 18:31 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_fwaas' | 18:31 |
| SridarK | #chair xgerman | 18:31 |
| openstack | Current chairs: SridarK xgerman | 18:31 |
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| mickeys | Hi | 18:31 |
| xgerman | Hi | 18:32 |
| njohnston | #info According to the ical file from eavesdrop, we are actually in an even week, so today's meeting should be at 8pm, FYI. | 18:32 |
| njohnston | I suggest we make normalizing the meeting schedule a topic for the meeting. :-) | 18:32 |
| shwetaap | Hi | 18:32 |
| SridarK | njohnston: sigh ok - since we are in an odd week | 18:32 |
| SridarK | my bad | 18:32 |
| xgerman | njohnston +1 | 18:32 |
| SridarK | hence i sent the email out | 18:33 |
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| njohnston | I didn't look at my calendar until the last second. | 18:33 |
| mfranc213 | yes, that was very helpful for me Sridar. | 18:33 |
| SridarK | njohnston: ok lets do that as a topic | 18:33 |
| SridarK | njohnston: apologies | 18:33 |
| njohnston | No, I think it's good, I would be at a family function at 8pm :-) | 18:33 |
| SridarK | serendipity :-) | 18:34 |
| SridarK | #topic Summit, v2 priorities | 18:34 |
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| SridarK | Firstly for the record - thanks all for the great discussion on Fri | 18:34 |
| njohnston | +1 | 18:35 |
| chandanc | +1 | 18:35 |
| mfranc213 | +1 | 18:35 |
| padkrish | +1 | 18:35 |
| SridarK | we can continue to use the etherpad | 18:35 |
| SridarK | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-fwaas-austin | 18:35 |
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| SridarK | Are there any blocking issues that we need to discuss and work to resolution | 18:36 |
| njohnston | There is the issue I emailed out, the issue with oslo.service | 18:37 |
| SridarK | i spent some time with chandanc and Sarath o the gerrit workflow | 18:37 |
| mfranc213 | yes, i looked at the oslo.service thing but not long enough to figure it out unfortunately. | 18:37 |
| chandanc | Thanks for the help with gerrit | 18:37 |
| SridarK | yes clearly there is an issue - i was able to see that as well - we can try to do some digging in parallel to see what is going on | 18:38 |
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| njohnston | And if I hack in a fix for that, by adding an argument, then I get to a further issue where it looks like a multiple inheritance issue supplying parameters to an __init__() method | 18:38 |
| mfranc213 | fwiw, the symptomology is simliar to this: http://freshfoo.com/blog/object__init__takes_no_parameters | 18:38 |
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| mfranc213 | and actually it appears that the initial bug, the one that nate put a hack into fix, is the same problem as what appears after the hack :) | 18:39 |
| mfranc213 | that's how it appears to me, anyway. | 18:39 |
| mfranc213 | this issue is deep in the weeds, as far as i can tell. an interesting problem. | 18:40 |
| njohnston | Here's what I am seeing on the __init__ issue: http://paste.openstack.org/show/496130/ | 18:40 |
| mfranc213 | (what nate has just posted is what is seen after the hack is put in place) | 18:40 |
| njohnston | Yes, the first line tries to explain that | 18:41 |
| mfranc213 | ahh, yes, sorry nate | 18:41 |
| njohnston | I'm not sure who to reach out to in order to see if we're using oslo.service incorrectly. Perhaps dims? | 18:41 |
| SridarK | yes i am puzzled - i will dig more too | 18:42 |
| xgerman | josh harlow - he is the oslo PTL | 18:42 |
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| xgerman | harlowja | 18:42 |
| njohnston | Excellent. I will put together a better presentation of the issue and contact him. Thanks xgerman! | 18:42 |
| xgerman | yeah, tell him I send you :-) | 18:42 |
| SridarK | :-) | 18:43 |
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| njohnston | :-) | 18:43 |
| mfranc213 | one thing i wanted to do was to see how other callers handle that __init__ in oslo_service. will try to get to that today. think that reaching out to others is good, too. | 18:43 |
| SridarK | ok lets continue on this | 18:43 |
| SridarK | mfranc213: my thought too - i am sure this is a common pattern | 18:43 |
| mfranc213 | yeah, should be | 18:43 |
| njohnston | Other than that I have gotten a start on accounting for all the db objects in the db patch, and trying to make sure that (other than the aforementioned problem) it passes tox. | 18:44 |
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| xgerman | sorry, guys gotta run today early… should be better next week when I am back home... | 18:45 |
| SridarK | other than some methods related to rules, u will need to add for the other resources | 18:45 |
| SridarK | xgerman: no worries | 18:45 |
| njohnston | Sure, feel free to leave feedback on the PS | 18:45 |
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| njohnston | that's probably the best way to keep me honest on it :-) | 18:46 |
| mfranc213 | there are orm questions that nate and i will be discussing also. | 18:46 |
| SridarK | we can target some very basic sketchy plumbing with the extensions - db - plugin patches in abt 2 weeks | 18:46 |
| mfranc213 | perfect | 18:46 |
| SridarK | does that seem reasonable ? | 18:46 |
| mfranc213 | it does to me, yes | 18:46 |
| mfranc213 | sorry, just speaking regarding the db piece | 18:47 |
| SridarK | mfranc213: yes no worries | 18:47 |
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| SridarK | just drawing a line in the sand | 18:47 |
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| njohnston | sounds good | 18:48 |
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| mfranc213 | Sridark: one thing that would be very helpful for me at this stage is TODO item 1 on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-fwaas-austin ?? | 18:48 |
| mfranc213 | not sure why i have ?? there. pretend they're not there. | 18:48 |
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| SridarK | ok i will do that | 18:48 |
| mfranc213 | thank you SridarK! | 18:48 |
| SridarK | Perhaps shwetaap can use the same model and resubmit a patchset for the extension | 18:49 |
| SridarK | same approach as njohnston and mfranc213 for db patch | 18:50 |
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| mfranc213 | SridarK: i'm sorry, can you say more about what you mean here? | 18:50 |
| SridarK | i think the ext patch does have most have the pieces in place | 18:50 |
| mfranc213 | ah | 18:50 |
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| shwetaap | sounds good .. i will do that | 18:51 |
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| SridarK | shwetaap: can u pls run thru the patch to see what could be missing and then either submit another patch or restart the old one | 18:51 |
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| SridarK | mfranc213: sorry - all i meant is if we want to resurrect the old patch or submit a new one as u guys did for db | 18:52 |
| shwetaap | sure will do | 18:52 |
| SridarK | either is fine - leave it to the new owners | 18:52 |
| mfranc213 | SridarK: ahh, i see. | 18:52 |
| njohnston | shwetaap: When you do testing, just ignore py27 and py34, they will always fail until we get the oslo.service issue fixed. | 18:53 |
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| SridarK | On the agent piece - yushiro is back next week - perhaps then padkrish - u guys can sync as well | 18:54 |
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| mfranc213 | once the oslo issue is fixed, we will want the team to know about it. what is the best way to do that? apologies if i've asked this already. is it by email? | 18:54 |
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| shwetaap | njohnston: thanks will keep that in mind | 18:54 |
| padkrish | #sridark# sure, i will also sync up with german regarding the existing patch | 18:54 |
| SridarK | mfranc213: sure that will be easy | 18:54 |
| mfranc213 | SridarK: ack | 18:54 |
| SridarK | mickeys: things u want to bring up on the iptables front ? | 18:55 |
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| mickeys | I have not made any progress. I need to start on the patch to add a common unwrapped chain. | 18:55 |
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| chandanc | I have been setting up the dev env , downloaded the current patch | 18:56 |
| SridarK | mickeys: ok | 18:56 |
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| SridarK | chandanc: ok | 18:56 |
| chandanc | will ping mickey with questions | 18:56 |
| SridarK | chandanc: if u need to sync with mickeys while in the same time zone | 18:57 |
| SridarK | other things regarding v2 that anyone wants to bring up ? | 18:58 |
| chandanc | sure sridark, may be by tomorrow i will have a better view | 18:58 |
| SridarK | chandanc: ok perfect | 18:58 |
| njohnston | nothing else to bring up, but I feel like we have gotten a decent start. | 18:58 |
| mfranc213 | +1 | 18:58 |
| SridarK | +1 | 18:58 |
| njohnston | once we have the oslo.service issue figured out we should probably put that fix out in a separate patch so we can fast-track merging it | 18:59 |
| mfranc213 | +1 | 18:59 |
| SridarK | njohnston: yes - pls add xgerman and me to the review - in case we miss it | 18:59 |
| njohnston | I've also started looking at all the neutron-lib deprecations, that looks like it will probably not be difficult to fix. | 18:59 |
| njohnston | SridarK: Will do. | 18:59 |
| mickeys | Regarding 264488, I still feel that position does not belong in rule. We wanted to be able to reference a rule from multiple different policies. IMO this should be abandoned. | 19:00 |
| SridarK | njohnston: yes we can prioritize as we see fit once we get some traction on the v2 patches | 19:01 |
| SridarK | mickeys: yes agreed | 19:02 |
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| njohnston | mickeys: From a DB schema perspective, 'position' is a field in the firewall_policy_rule_associations table, so it is an attribute per association, not globally for the rule. | 19:02 |
| njohnston | At least, that is what the spec laid out, so that's what I am working towards for the DB | 19:02 |
| SridarK | njohnston: having it in the association table enables the reuse | 19:03 |
| SridarK | so yes | 19:03 |
| mickeys | njohnston: The proposed change is in the REST API section. It should remain in the DB association table. | 19:03 |
| chandanc | yes | 19:03 |
| SridarK | ok lets move on | 19:05 |
| njohnston | But according to that change 'position' only indicates the position within the associated policy, making it a policy-specific bit of data for that rule. | 19:05 |
| SridarK | #topic other reviews | 19:05 |
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| njohnston | OK, leaving that for later | 19:06 |
| chandanc | should the rule position not be part of the policy API ? | 19:06 |
| chandanc | sure, lets move on | 19:06 |
| SridarK | ok lets pick it up in open discussion | 19:06 |
| SridarK | we have the observer hierarchy patch out | 19:07 |
| SridarK | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/278863/ | 19:07 |
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| SridarK | this is also plagued by the UT issue | 19:07 |
| SridarK | i think the patch does what is intended - i am trying to test this as well | 19:08 |
| SridarK | i have been talking to the submitter - he going thru some testing and possibly add some more on the UT | 19:08 |
| SridarK | request folks to get some eyes on this as well | 19:08 |
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| mfranc213 | i will take a look | 19:09 |
| SridarK | with this in - will enable us to remove some fwaas stuff from L3Agent | 19:09 |
| SridarK | thx | 19:09 |
| njohnston | +1 for removing fwaas stuff from L3Agent | 19:09 |
| SridarK | any other reviews that folks want to bring up ? | 19:09 |
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| SridarK | badveli: could u pls also take a look | 19:10 |
| SridarK | ok lets move on | 19:11 |
| SridarK | #topic FWaaS weekly meeting time | 19:12 |
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| badveli | yes | 19:12 |
| badveli | i will take a look sridhark | 19:12 |
| njohnston | I think there was consensus for a single meeting time | 19:12 |
| mfranc213 | +1 | 19:12 |
| SridarK | i realize with some new contributors from the India and Japan we will struggle to find a time that works fantastically for all | 19:13 |
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| SridarK | i am fine with the single time too - will certainly avoid a snafu like today :-) | 19:13 |
| SridarK | possible lets throw some times out over email - so we ensure that active contributors are able to find some common ground | 19:14 |
| chandanc | +1 | 19:14 |
| njohnston | The best guess I can come up with is 9:00am EST == 10:00pm in Japan, 6:30pm in New Delhi | 19:15 |
| njohnston | But I shall be as flexible as I can. :-) | 19:15 |
| chandanc | We can consider the discussion we had during summit | 19:15 |
| mfranc213 | = 6 am PST | 19:16 |
| SridarK | i start my day early - so i can make that work - but 6am Pacific could abe a challenge for some | 19:16 |
| SridarK | yushiro is out this week - so lets start the discussion first thing next week | 19:16 |
| njohnston | Sounds good. | 19:17 |
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| mfranc213 | so the delta between earliest and latest is, ignoring daylight savings, 8 hours. | 19:17 |
| mickeys | That is two hours earlier than I normally wake up | 19:17 |
| chandanc | sure, better to propose in mail thread, 6:30 pm India is mostly way back from Office. Can we push by 30 mins | 19:17 |
| mfranc213 | if we push pacific time up, japan suffers... | 19:17 |
| mickeys | I thought night time US, morning India and Japan might work better | 19:17 |
| SridarK | lets see what is upper boundary for yushiro | 19:18 |
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| SridarK | and if we do evening what is the upper boundary for Eastern time zone | 19:18 |
| SridarK | so we can do this over email | 19:18 |
| mickeys | When DST ends, it becomes one hour earlier | 19:18 |
| mickeys | in the US | 19:18 |
| chandanc | sure | 19:18 |
| mfranc213 | i think 11-ish ? | 19:18 |
| njohnston | midnight EST == 1:00pm tokyo == 9:30am new delhi == 9:00pm san jose | 19:19 |
| mfranc213 | speaking just for myself. | 19:19 |
| njohnston | I would be fine with midnight | 19:19 |
| SridarK | ok may be we have a formula there which we can tweak so it is not too late for Eastern and make it work for all | 19:20 |
| njohnston | I am also happy to have the opportunity to provide for our esteemed colleagues in Asia the flexibility they have so often given us. | 19:20 |
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| mfranc213 | yes, perhaps something like 10:30 pm EST == 11:30am tokyo == 8am new delhi == 7:30pm san jose | 19:21 |
| mfranc213 | i will be flexible too. +1 for what njohnston just said | 19:21 |
| SridarK | ok good - lets take it to email then first thing next week | 19:22 |
| njohnston | +1 | 19:22 |
| chandanc | +1 | 19:22 |
| SridarK | #topic Open Discussion | 19:22 |
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| mickeys | Regarding 264488, the API rules table is not in the context of a policy. The DB association table is in the context of a policy, so position there makes sense and is a good thing. In the API, the position is specified through the ordered list of rules in the policy table. | 19:22 |
| njohnston | Looking forward: I am somewhat unfamiliar with how all this code works in practice; is there anything that is a pre-requisite for our testing fwaas in the lab to make sure the code hangs together, once we get to that point? | 19:23 |
| SridarK | njohnston: something as basic as a single node devstack env is good | 19:24 |
| mfranc213 | mickeys: would you be able to add your suggestions and concerns as comments to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/264488/ itself? | 19:24 |
| njohnston | SridarK: Very good. I know we had to be much more involved when working on QoS DSCP because we weren't satisfied until we had tcpdumps showing the traffic was behaving as configured. | 19:25 |
| SridarK | i have been using that to test out what ever we have albeit with some hacks | 19:25 |
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| mfranc213 | SridarK: do you generally pull from master for all other OS components? | 19:25 |
| SridarK | i usually have a rule with an obscure port number - so i can quickly grep for that on the iptables to see if it made it all the way | 19:25 |
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| SridarK | mfranc213: yes | 19:26 |
| mfranc213 | ack | 19:26 |
| chandanc | mickey: agree, with the ordered list of rule in policy we should already have the position. right ? | 19:26 |
| njohnston | SridarK: Is the devstack directives necessary to set up fwaas documented? Could you share your local.conf with us? | 19:26 |
| SridarK | njohnston: ok surely will do that | 19:26 |
| SridarK | q-fwaas - will set up the service plugin | 19:27 |
| mickeys | mfranc213: I have put comments in 264488 in the past, for example Jan 15 8:19am comment | 19:27 |
| mfranc213 | mickeys: thank you. | 19:27 |
| padkrish | just q-fwaas and ofcourse l3-agent in local.conf is all that's needed, i guess | 19:27 |
| mfranc213 | mickeys: do you feel your comments in the PS are exhaustive? | 19:27 |
| SridarK | padkrish: yes | 19:27 |
| mickeys | mfranc213: Do you think I should add another comment expanding on this, along the lines of the comments I made above? | 19:28 |
| njohnston | padkrish and SridarK: does it matter at all what ML2 driver is in use? | 19:28 |
| SridarK | 2 min warning | 19:28 |
| mfranc213 | mickeys: i think that would help me, yes. | 19:28 |
| SridarK | njohnston: it should not | 19:29 |
| padkrish | njohnston# good question, my default settings are always ovs as ML2 driver | 19:29 |
| njohnston | SridarK: Excellent. That is what I thought, but I am checking my assumptions. | 19:29 |
| SridarK | njohnston: do u use linux bridge ? | 19:29 |
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| njohnston | SridarK: I typically use OVS but I have had trouble in func tests where both OVS and LB were tested scenarios. | 19:29 |
| SridarK | +1 to padkrish - i use ovs usually too | 19:29 |
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| SridarK | njohnston: ok | 19:30 |
| SridarK | ok folks times up | 19:30 |
| mfranc213 | two things: 1) i've been adding TODOs to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-fwaas-austin | 19:30 |
| SridarK | thanks all | 19:30 |
| mfranc213 | , and 2) is there anyone else here who is having difficulty editing https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/FWaaS/NewtonPlan (as i am)? | 19:30 |
| njohnston | thanks all! good meeting! | 19:30 |
| mickeys | There is a bit of additional code in iptables when using OVS, but it should not make a significant difference. I never did figure out how conntrack zones are assigned in case of LB, should probably get back to that. | 19:30 |
| padkrish | thanks | 19:30 |
| SridarK | mfranc213: lets pick it up later | 19:30 |
| mfranc213 | thank you | 19:30 |
| mfranc213 | bye all | 19:30 |
| SridarK | #endmeeting | 19:30 |
| badveli | bye all | 19:30 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 4 19:30:59 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:31 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2016/networking_fwaas.2016-05-04-18.31.html | 19:31 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2016/networking_fwaas.2016-05-04-18.31.txt | 19:31 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2016/networking_fwaas.2016-05-04-18.31.log.html | 19:31 |
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| robcresswell | #startmeeting horizondrivers | 20:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 4 20:01:09 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is robcresswell. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:01 |
| hurgleburgler | (◠‿◠✿)ノ | 20:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizondrivers' | 20:01 |
| david-lyle | o/ | 20:01 |
| pkarikh_ | hi! | 20:01 |
| bpokorny_ | o/ | 20:01 |
| TravT | o | 20:01 |
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| robcresswell | Hi everyone | 20:02 |
| robcresswell | There's a couple things to discuss before looking at blueprints | 20:02 |
| robcresswell | #topic Notices | 20:02 |
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| robcresswell | I'm planning the midcycle with some Cisco folk, will send out a list of potential dates this week. If anyone else would also like to volunteer to host, let me know. | 20:03 |
| robcresswell | Options are always good :) | 20:03 |
| TravT | we can always host in fort collins. | 20:03 |
| TravT | just as an option | 20:04 |
| david-lyle | I can do Santa Clara or Hillsboro | 20:04 |
| david-lyle | *can offer | 20:04 |
| robcresswell | ha, I read that as "I will only go to these two locations" | 20:05 |
| robcresswell | Great, thanks. Will add that to the email. | 20:05 |
| david-lyle | if I'm not hosting, I'm not coming :P | 20:05 |
| hurgleburgler | LOL | 20:05 |
| robcresswell | So for those who missed the summit, the etherpads are here: | 20:05 |
| robcresswell | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Design_Summit/Newton/Etherpads#Horizon | 20:05 |
| robcresswell | The priorities and feedback ones are especially import IMO. | 20:05 |
| robcresswell | I'd recommend reading through the notes. | 20:06 |
| robcresswell | I've also brought back the weekly bug report idea and linked it in the Horizon IRC room topic | 20:06 |
| robcresswell | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Horizon/WeeklyBugReport | 20:07 |
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| robcresswell | If you only get time to do a handful of reviews each week, pick up those patches first so we can move quickly on them. | 20:07 |
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| robcresswell | Anyone can add to it, and I'll be curating it too so it doesnt turn into Launchpad No.2 | 20:07 |
| robcresswell | re: launchpad, a lot of bugs have relevant tags now, such as a service name, or a particular focus like ux or angular. | 20:08 |
| robcresswell | So if you have some particular knowledge that will help you filter better :) | 20:08 |
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| TravT | yes, those tags are helpful | 20:09 |
| TravT | i looked through the angular ones yesterday. | 20:09 |
| TravT | found one with a review up and reviewed it | 20:09 |
| robcresswell | Sounds good | 20:09 |
| robcresswell | #topic Earlier feature freeze | 20:10 |
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| robcresswell | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-April/093525.html | 20:10 |
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| robcresswell | The chain seems to have got lost, but that email and the first reply are the ones with the majority of the discussion anyway. | 20:10 |
| robcresswell | It's been a fairly common theme that we're making too many breaking changes too late, and given the growing plugin architecture we should consider FF a week earlier. | 20:11 |
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| robcresswell | This would likely be R-6 instead of R-5, just to give others a week to fix things. | 20:12 |
| TravT | so, frameworky things vs core services in horizon may need to be treated differently | 20:12 |
| robcresswell | Yeah, the main discussion is how we want to scope this | 20:12 |
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| robcresswell | We could restrict horizon/ for example | 20:12 |
| TravT | e.g. cinder panel vs reusable widget | 20:13 |
| robcresswell | Yep | 20:13 |
| robcresswell | Long term we may pursue a more official split repo, but its not a priority for now. | 20:13 |
| robcresswell | Thoughts/ | 20:14 |
| robcresswell | ?* | 20:14 |
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| david-lyle | re: FF or scope of the FF? | 20:14 |
| david-lyle | FF: good | 20:15 |
| david-lyle | FF scope: broad | 20:15 |
| david-lyle | if we want core things in late, let's make explicit exceptions | 20:16 |
| robcresswell | My internet gave up for a moment there. | 20:17 |
| TravT | well, we got it all figured out. | 20:17 |
| TravT | so what's next? | 20:17 |
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| TravT | ;) | 20:17 |
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| david-lyle | robcresswell: is your modem plugged in? | 20:19 |
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| robcresswell | Right, I caught up | 20:19 |
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| robcresswell | david-lyle: "broad" meaning you'd like to FF on horizon and o_d? | 20:20 |
| david-lyle | yes | 20:21 |
| david-lyle | there is an exception process | 20:21 |
| david-lyle | let's use it | 20:21 |
| david-lyle | if necessary | 20:21 |
| robcresswell | Yep | 20:21 |
| robcresswell | There are not a lot of opinions in this room today. Guess everyone used them all up at the summit :) | 20:22 |
| robcresswell | #topic Blueprint review | 20:22 |
| r1chardj0n3s | o/ | 20:22 |
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| TravT | robcresswell: if you want to move FFE process up a week, I'm okay with that | 20:22 |
| robcresswell | Yeah, lets do it. Should help the plugins. | 20:23 |
| hurgleburgler | yeah, me too | 20:23 |
| robcresswell | on to blueprints. | 20:23 |
| david-lyle | robcresswell: it will make your life easier lining up with global expectations | 20:23 |
| robcresswell | This was carried over from the previous meeting: | 20:23 |
| robcresswell | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/hierarchical-projects | 20:23 |
| r1chardj0n3s | are heirarchical projects still a thing? | 20:24 |
| david-lyle | r1chardj0n3s: yes and no | 20:24 |
| david-lyle | yes in keystone, no beyond | 20:25 |
| david-lyle | no quota support | 20:25 |
| r1chardj0n3s | right :-) | 20:25 |
| robcresswell | It looks like kenji was trying to resurrect it | 20:25 |
| david-lyle | my previous stance was to wait for someone, anyone else to support it first | 20:25 |
| david-lyle | it's a UX quagmire | 20:26 |
| TravT | every time i got pulled into those discussions, i left confused | 20:27 |
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| david-lyle | the role inheritance alone will make you want to run | 20:27 |
| robcresswell | Yeah I'm just scanning the linked blueprints | 20:27 |
| david-lyle | I honest hoped the thing would die | 20:27 |
| robcresswell | haha | 20:27 |
| robcresswell | I don't see any reason to actively block it, but it doesn't seem like there's a big need for it. | 20:28 |
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| david-lyle | and with quota completely blocked it my be asphyxiated yet | 20:28 |
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| robcresswell | What was the issue there? | 20:28 |
| david-lyle | the changes to certain views will be considerable | 20:28 |
| robcresswell | Well, I'm adequately scared. | 20:29 |
| david-lyle | the issue was things move slowly, quota can't be updated to support hierarchies because existing quota is flawed, adding more complexity to something already broken won't fix it | 20:30 |
| david-lyle | so quota was to be fixed first then hierarchy | 20:30 |
| TravT | robcresswell: my confusion was probably more of a lack of ability to really focus on it. so don't be scared just by my statements. | 20:30 |
| robcresswell | Gotcha. I wasn't aware of the quota - hierarchy link. | 20:30 |
| robcresswell | TravT: Ha, I was just amused by two people immediately reacting with "oh no" | 20:31 |
| david-lyle | all identity views get really complicated | 20:31 |
| david-lyle | project selection gets complicated | 20:31 |
| david-lyle | hierarchy navigation isn't even a thing yet | 20:31 |
| robcresswell | #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/hierarchical-projects Left blocked, comments inline | 20:31 |
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| robcresswell | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/angular-registry | 20:32 |
| robcresswell | So this has been properly split into its own blueprint | 20:33 |
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| robcresswell | We've already talked about moving forward with it, but wanted to highlight that it now has its own content | 20:33 |
| robcresswell | Rather than the ever-growing angular-images bp :) | 20:33 |
| r1chardj0n3s | \o/ for the split | 20:34 |
| TravT | i think much of the content there could be pulled over into a documentation patch as well. | 20:34 |
| r1chardj0n3s | nice idea | 20:34 |
| robcresswell | That'd be good | 20:35 |
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| robcresswell | Does anyone have any blueprints they'd like to raise? Otherwise I'll just start picking from the pile. | 20:35 |
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| robcresswell | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/automated-test-coverage-reports | 20:37 |
| robcresswell | We already have coverage running, so we can remove this afaik. | 20:37 |
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| david-lyle | yeah remove | 20:38 |
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| robcresswell | Struggling to find many new blueprints, so we can end the meeting early if there are no more to add. | 20:40 |
| robcresswell | #endmeeting | 20:41 |
| david-lyle | is this superseeded https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/volumes-selenium? | 20:41 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 4 20:41:46 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:41 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizondrivers/2016/horizondrivers.2016-05-04-20.01.html | 20:41 |
| robcresswell | Thanks all | 20:41 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizondrivers/2016/horizondrivers.2016-05-04-20.01.txt | 20:41 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizondrivers/2016/horizondrivers.2016-05-04-20.01.log.html | 20:41 |
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| alaski | #startmeeting nova_cells | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 4 21:00:06 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alaski. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| bauzas | go go go | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova_cells)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_cells' | 21:00 |
| melwitt | o/ | 21:00 |
| bauzas | \o | 21:00 |
| mriedem | o/ | 21:00 |
| ccarmack | hi | 21:00 |
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| dansmith | */ | 21:00 |
| dansmith | ^ head in a fog, but waving | 21:00 |
| doffm | o/ | 21:00 |
| rlrossit | o/ | 21:00 |
| ctrath | o/ | 21:00 |
| alaski | I haven't had time to think about a proper agenda yet so we'll speed through | 21:00 |
| dansmith | good man | 21:00 |
| bauzas | <3 | 21:00 |
| alaski | #topic Open Reviews | 21:01 |
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| alaski | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-nova-priorities-tracking | 21:01 |
| alaski | take a peek, review a patch | 21:01 |
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| alaski | #topic Open Discussion | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: nova_cells)" | 21:01 | |
| dansmith | woot | 21:01 |
| dansmith | I'm working through the keypairs -> API DB patches right now | 21:01 |
| doffm | I need to update the nova priorities etherpad. There is a new keypairs spec, and the miscellaneous is gone. | 21:01 |
| alaski | okay | 21:02 |
| alaski | I was going to ask if there are more specs planned, I assumed yes | 21:02 |
| bauzas | cell0 patches seem in a good shape | 21:02 |
| doffm | I also need to write an instance groups spec, but haven't started. | 21:02 |
| ccarmack | I was going to start on quotas, but I gather the spec is obsolete ;-) | 21:02 |
| melwitt | I'm to leave the mq patch as-is, right? i.e. we're deciding on the get_cell_client lookup CellMapping thing later? | 21:02 |
| alaski | melwitt: yeah, let's merge what's there and then update | 21:02 |
| alaski | IMO | 21:02 |
| doffm | ccarmack: Well, its not obsolte, but yes. Need to update with stuff we talked about at summit. | 21:02 |
| melwitt | mriedem suggested a spec might be needed for the oslo.messaging "make a transport url" function. so I can write that | 21:03 |
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| ccarmack | doffm: anyway, I can start on the the implementation | 21:03 |
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| alaski | melwitt: cool | 21:04 |
| mriedem | i'm woefully behind on reviewing any cells v2 things | 21:04 |
| mriedem | i don't know if an oslo spec is needed or not | 21:04 |
| alaski | doffm: are any of the specs not in need of updates, i.e. ready for review? | 21:04 |
| doffm | Ummm, aggregates got pushed this morning. | 21:04 |
| doffm | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/288084/ | 21:04 |
| alaski | okay | 21:04 |
| alaski | just marked it on the etherpad to distinguish from those needing updates from summit discussions | 21:05 |
| melwitt | mriedem: I'll ask in the oslo channel if a spec is wanted | 21:05 |
| doffm | Keypairs is new this morning. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/312619/ No reviews yet. | 21:05 |
| mriedem | i'll try to get back on those this week | 21:06 |
| mriedem | aggregates and keypairs | 21:06 |
| alaski | I plan to look tomorrow | 21:06 |
| mriedem | by try i mean, doffm is free to bug me to review them incessantly | 21:06 |
| alaski | I'm really trying to get oslo.policy stuff in order by the end of the week to get fully back to cells next week | 21:07 |
| bauzas | I have a long week-end but I should be up for reviews next week | 21:07 |
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| alaski | it sounds like there's enough work to go around for the moment. I will try to be more organized for next weeks meeting. | 21:08 |
| alaski | anything else to touch on today? | 21:08 |
| rlrossit | what's the status of melwitt's MQ patch? | 21:08 |
| rlrossit | have we bikeshedded on that enough? | 21:08 |
| melwitt | the spec needs to be approved first, post summit | 21:09 |
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| alaski | I would like to merge as is, but yeah need the spec first | 21:09 |
| rlrossit | missed that. But yeah I'm fine with it as-is | 21:09 |
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| alaski | cool | 21:10 |
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| alaski | unless there's last second dissent that's it for this week | 21:11 |
| rlrossit | mriedem: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/298551/ | 21:11 |
| alaski | everybody can get back to being jetlagged or going on vacation | 21:11 |
| bauzas | \o/ | 21:11 |
| mriedem | too many gd specs | 21:11 |
| alaski | mriedem: yep :) they're all in the etherpad though | 21:11 |
| ctrath | http://grammarist.com/usage/shedded/ | 21:11 |
| alaski | thanks all! | 21:11 |
| alaski | #endmeeting | 21:11 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 4 21:11:58 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:11 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2016/nova_cells.2016-05-04-21.00.html | 21:12 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2016/nova_cells.2016-05-04-21.00.txt | 21:12 |
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