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| reedip | yoo | 06:27 |
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| reedip | should we start ??? | 06:27 |
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| yamamoto | hi | 06:29 |
| reedip | anil_rao, kaz, fawadkhaliq, yamamoto : where are you all ? | 06:29 |
| reedip | soichi as well... | 06:29 |
| kaz | hi | 06:29 |
| soichi | hi | 06:29 |
| fawadkhaliq | hi reedip | 06:29 |
| reedip | I need to carry a placard from the next meeting, or an alarm clock ! | 06:30 |
| reedip | we should start ... its already 5 minutes past the start | 06:30 |
| anil_rao | reedip: your watch is too fast. :) | 06:31 |
| anil_rao | #startmeeting taas | 06:31 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 30 06:31:27 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is anil_rao. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 06:31 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 06:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: taas)" | 06:31 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'taas' | 06:31 |
| reedip | anil_rao : it syncs with me :D | 06:31 |
| anil_rao | Hi | 06:31 |
| soichi | hi | 06:32 |
| anil_rao | #topic Summit planning schedule | 06:32 |
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| anil_rao | I see a topic in etherpad on OVS agent flow management for extensions | 06:33 |
| anil_rao | I think this will be useful for us to discuss how different extensions can co-exist in OVS bridges with their respective flows | 06:34 |
| reedip | anil_rao, yamamoto, fawadkhaliq : if you find a suitable option in the etherpad where we can take up TaaS use cases ( like the OVS bridge ) we can add our points on it as well | 06:34 |
| anil_rao | Thoughts? | 06:35 |
| reedip | correction : OVS agent ... | 06:35 |
| reedip | #link : https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-neutron-summit-ideas | 06:35 |
| anil_rao | reedip: I mentioned one just above... | 06:36 |
| reedip | this link is basically for ideas of design sessions from Teusday to Thursday | 06:36 |
| reedip | anil_rao : I may be fast, my system is slow .. it sent it after your message..... :) | 06:37 |
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| anil_rao | reedip: :-) | 06:37 |
| anil_rao | I think we could join in that OVS extensions discussion. There will be others too (other extensions) so this might be a good session for us | 06:38 |
| reedip | anil_rao : +1 | 06:38 |
| yamamoto | anil_rao: +1 | 06:38 |
| kaz | :1 | 06:38 |
| soichi | +1 | 06:38 |
| kaz | +1 | 06:38 |
| anil_rao | Should we also add a separate line item for TaaS? | 06:39 |
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| anil_rao | Anything else on this topic? | 06:41 |
| soichi | anil_rao: i think it is good idea for advatising TaaS | 06:41 |
| soichi | advatising -> advertising | 06:41 |
| reedip | anil_rao: we can mention it, it can be combined with other *aaS items for a single session | 06:42 |
| anil_rao | reedip: Sounds good. | 06:43 |
| reedip | depending on the number of sessions alloted | 06:43 |
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| soichi | reedip: +1 | 06:44 |
| anil_rao | OK, let move to the next topic | 06:44 |
| anil_rao | #topic Async Calls | 06:44 |
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| anil_rao | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/090088.html | 06:45 |
| anil_rao | What do folks think about this? | 06:45 |
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| reedip | anil_rao: Yee.... | 06:47 |
| reedip | already gave my opinion on the ML btw .. | 06:48 |
| anil_rao | reedip: Yes, I saw that. Thanks. Just wanted to hear from the others too. | 06:48 |
| yamamoto | +1 from me | 06:48 |
| yamamoto | i guess everyone agree it's a good idea. a question is when to do it. | 06:49 |
| soichi | anil_rao: i agree to provide async calls | 06:49 |
| kaz | +1 | 06:49 |
| anil_rao | yamamoto: Perhaps we should do this after the Summit. If we are going to do a demo then we don't want too much code churn now. | 06:49 |
| soichi | anil_rao: agree | 06:50 |
| reedip | anil_rao : This information should be mentioned as a part of "Future Improvements" in the presentation in Austin | 06:50 |
| reedip | along with the nitty gritty already mentioned in the spec | 06:51 |
| anil_rao | reedip: +1 | 06:51 |
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| yamamoto | probably we can just add a placeholder "status" field which is always ACTIVE for now? | 06:52 |
| anil_rao | yamamoto: I like this idea. | 06:52 |
| reedip | yamamoto : so basically a working code for the front end and the backend implementation on hold ??? | 06:52 |
| reedip | that should not be too much of a problem | 06:53 |
| yamamoto | we can say that the status always being ACTIVE is a problem in the specific implementation. :-) | 06:54 |
| anil_rao | We need async calls for everthing that eventually makes its way to the backend. I.e. create, update and delete. | 06:56 |
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| yamamoto | anil_rao: +1 | 06:56 |
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| soichi | +1 | 06:57 |
| kaz | +1 | 06:57 |
| anil_rao | OK, looks like everyone is in agreement. We'll move to the next topic. | 06:58 |
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| anil_rao | #topic TaaS Dashboard Discussion | 06:58 |
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| soichi | i guess newly added "tap service tab" can be merged to Liberty without problems | 06:58 |
| anil_rao | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/295735/2 | 06:58 |
| soichi | excuse us that we didn't test yet, because last week and this week we are busy on other stuff | 06:59 |
| soichi | (our fiscal year starts in April and ends in March) | 06:59 |
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| reedip | soichi: everyone's does.... :( | 06:59 |
| soichi | on the other hand, i guess some effort will be required to merge our changes on "network topology tab" to Liberty | 06:59 |
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| anil_rao | soichi: Here is a question for kaz and you. | 07:00 |
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| soichi | yes | 07:00 |
| anil_rao | How is the cloud admin supposed to work with the UI? | 07:00 |
| kaz | we suposed to use normal (non admin) user. | 07:01 |
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| anil_rao | Since the cloud admin doesn't see the topology view, I think having both tap-service and tap-flow workflows in the tap-service tab would be nice. | 07:02 |
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| anil_rao | What do you think? | 07:02 |
| kaz | I think so. | 07:04 |
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| anil_rao | soichi, kaz: I'll add comments to the review. | 07:05 |
| kaz | yes | 07:05 |
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| anil_rao | kaz: Can I test this via devstack? | 07:07 |
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| kaz | You can test with the kilo horizon. | 07:09 |
| kaz | by devstack | 07:09 |
| kaz | I will send a mail how to test via. | 07:09 |
| kaz | devstack . | 07:10 |
| anil_rao | kaz: Thanks! | 07:10 |
| anil_rao | We'll move to the next topic then | 07:10 |
| anil_rao | #topic Spec Discussion Completion | 07:11 |
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| reedip | @anil_rao : Spec continuation can be done on the ML. I guess you had some comments which you wanted to give on my questions, but missed out last week . Also my #action need to revisit the taas Spec | 07:11 |
| anil_rao | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/088645.html | 07:11 |
| anil_rao | reedip: Yes, sorry about that. I was out of town for a few days last week. I'll get that done in the next few days. | 07:12 |
| reedip | anil_rao : yeah sure, the ML would be the best way to sort out the spec for now... | 07:12 |
| reedip | as it may take some time , and we have sufficient to discuss in the current hour | 07:12 |
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| anil_rao | #topic Migration of TaaS to OSC | 07:16 |
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| reedip | anil_rao : well, now that openstack client is in the picutre, and it is integrating a lot of clients into it | 07:17 |
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| reedip | anil_rao: neutron client amongst them as well | 07:17 |
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| reedip | anil_rao : I think it should be logical to have TaaS set up with openstack client as well, so that we have support there. It would incorporated as a plugin, much like how neutronclient has been setup | 07:18 |
| anil_rao | reedip: Does all Neutron functionality go together or do separate projects (such as TaaS) do the migration themselves. | 07:19 |
| anil_rao | I mean if neutron client is integrated into OSC does TaaS get into OSC automatically | 07:20 |
| reedip | core neutron functionality in neutronclient will go to openstack SDK | 07:20 |
| anil_rao | ok | 07:21 |
| reedip | FWaaS, LBaaS and other *aaS related components will have plugins | 07:21 |
| anil_rao | reedip: With neutron client get depreciated eventually? | 07:22 |
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| reedip | anil_rao : not yet, for the users who would not use openstackclient, neutronclient would still exist... the final decision on that would take some releases ( maybe by Q/R release) | 07:23 |
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| anil_rao | If projects are migrating to openstackclient then it makes sense for TaaS to do so too. | 07:23 |
| reedip | anil_rao : yup, thats why I mentioned it :) | 07:24 |
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| reedip | having a ready support in N-release would atleast not require us any future modifications | 07:24 |
| anil_rao | reedip: Agree | 07:25 |
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| anil_rao | Lets move to open discussion | 07:25 |
| anil_rao | #topic Open Discussion | 07:25 |
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| soichi | i have no additional topic for today | 07:26 |
| yamamoto | i have a quick question about api | 07:27 |
| anil_rao | Yes | 07:27 |
| yamamoto | is it supposed to allow duplicated tap-flows? | 07:27 |
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| anil_rao | yamamoto: Are you refering to one port (vNIC) assigned to multiple tap-service instances | 07:27 |
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| yamamoto | yes, and even with the same tap-service | 07:28 |
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| yamamoto | the reference impl doesn't seem to deal with either cases, right? | 07:29 |
| yamamoto | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tap-as-a-service/+bug/1562769 | 07:29 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1562769 in tap-as-a-service "multiple tap-flows on the same source-port seem broken" [Undecided,New] | 07:29 |
| anil_rao | I see a tap flow as a mapping from a port to a tap-service instance. | 07:29 |
| yamamoto | my question is how it's supposed to be in api level. (i'm considering midonet impl) | 07:30 |
| anil_rao | I did think about us possibly allowing a port to be assigned to more than one tap service instance. Each such association between the port and a tap service instance would be one unique tap flow. | 07:30 |
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| anil_rao | I do not quite follow the need for multiple associtations (flows) between a single source port and a tap service instance. | 07:31 |
| yamamoto | neither do i. just wondering if there are use cases. | 07:31 |
| anil_rao | We are out of time. Let us discuss this next week. | 07:32 |
| yamamoto | sure thank you | 07:32 |
| soichi | bye | 07:32 |
| kaz | bye | 07:32 |
| yamamoto | bye | 07:32 |
| anil_rao | Bye | 07:32 |
| anil_rao | #endmeeting | 07:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 07:32 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 30 07:32:40 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 07:32 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2016/taas.2016-03-30-06.31.html | 07:32 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2016/taas.2016-03-30-06.31.txt | 07:32 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2016/taas.2016-03-30-06.31.log.html | 07:32 |
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| ifat_afek | #startmeeting vitrage | 08:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 30 08:00:38 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ifat_afek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:00 |
| alexey_weyl | Hi | 08:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'vitrage' | 08:00 |
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| ifat_afek | Hi everyone :-) | 08:01 |
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| lhartal | hi all | 08:01 |
| elisha_r | hi | 08:02 |
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| idan_hefetz | hi | 08:03 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Current status | 08:04 |
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| ifat_afek | We have a new demo, with deduced alarms, deduced states and RCA | 08:04 |
| elisha_r | great! | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | I sent it to openstack, pinpoint and doctor. You can find it in vitrage wiki page, or here: | 08:05 |
| elisha_r | saw it, was very cool | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqlOKTmYR4c | 08:05 |
| eyalb | hi all | 08:05 |
| alexey_weyl | Great Demo :) | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | I updated the list of our blueprints, closed the ones that are already implemented | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | Please open new blueprints for the tasks you are currently working on. | 08:06 |
| ifat_afek | #action make sure you have a blueprint for your current task | 08:06 |
| ifat_afek | Newton suggested schedule was published. You can find it here: | 08:06 |
| ifat_afek | http://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html | 08:06 |
| eyalb | nice | 08:06 |
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| emalin | hi | 08:06 |
| ifat_afek | Aodh updates: I still didn't push my aodh fixes from the demo. having environment problems. will try to do it today | 08:07 |
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| idan_hefetz | I'm still on the aodh notifier, it is not finished yet, but deduced alarms are created in aodh, so that's nice | 08:08 |
| ifat_afek | cool! | 08:08 |
| idan_hefetz | hopefully will end by next week | 08:08 |
| ifat_afek | idan_hefetz: great, thanks | 08:09 |
| eyalb | i am still working on the neutron plugin | 08:09 |
| ifat_afek | eyalb: and how is it progressing? | 08:09 |
| eyalb | just wrote the synchronizer | 08:10 |
| eyalb | still need to do the transformer | 08:10 |
| eyalb | and also listen to event bus | 08:10 |
| eyalb | for updates | 08:10 |
| eyalb | also need to write a blueprint for the plugin | 08:10 |
| ifat_afek | eyalb: cool, thanks | 08:11 |
| elisha_r | A developer guide for how to do Nagios configuration within devstack has been pushed, awaiting review | 08:11 |
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| elisha_r | sorry - I'll go next | 08:11 |
| elisha_r | A developer guide for how to do Nagios configuration within devstack has been pushed, awaiting review | 08:11 |
| elisha_r | Making this part of the Vitrage stack should not be too difficult, and I'll be working on this in the coming days, though at low priority as other tasks take precedence as we approach the Austin Summit | 08:11 |
| elisha_r | Regarding this automation, we've also decided to make the decision of whether or not to install/uninstall nagios as part of stack/unstack a parameter the user can set as they wish. | 08:13 |
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| ifat_afek | elisha_r: cool, I'll try to review your configuration guide today or tomorrow | 08:13 |
| ifat_afek | elisha_r: we should discuss this indeed | 08:13 |
| elisha_r | I agree. #action continue automatic installation of nagios in vitrage stack | 08:14 |
| elisha_r | Another thing is that, at long last (yes, I know this has been said before) today we should be pushing also the evaluator design to gerrit. Let's hope :) | 08:14 |
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| ifat_afek | elisha_r: :-) | 08:15 |
| elisha_r | Finally, work has started on dealing with inter-template interactions - e.g., overlapping templates that can impact the same resource in opposing ways. | 08:15 |
| mkoushnir | Hi. | 08:16 |
| elisha_r | we will probably need to take a simple and limited approach for the Austin date, and take a more comprehensive approach for the Newton release. | 08:16 |
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| danoffek | hi | 08:16 |
| mkoushnir | My devstack machine still don't work and I wait for help from Eyal. | 08:17 |
| mkoushnir | The code of 3 topology tempest test and one alarm test is finished, but I can't check it. | 08:17 |
| elisha_r | Once there is a clear goal, I'll add documentation (perhaps a blueprint) | 08:17 |
| elisha_r | thats it | 08:17 |
| ifat_afek | elisha_r: great, thanks. overlapping templates is an interesting topic | 08:17 |
| ifat_afek | mkoushnir: great that you finished writing the tests | 08:18 |
| eyalb | mkoushnir: I will help u :-) | 08:18 |
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| alexey_weyl | Marina, | 08:19 |
| alexey_weyl | I am planning to work on TEMPESTS from now for one and a hlaf week | 08:20 |
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| mkoushnir | Thanks, Eyal | 08:20 |
| alexey_weyl | I am planning to sit with you and work on the tempests with you, and on other tests as well | 08:20 |
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| ifat_afek | alexey_weyl: great. any other updateS? | 08:20 |
| alexey_weyl | In addition, I have added a plugin for Cinder, and we have a volume connected to an instance in the topology | 08:21 |
| alexey_weyl | :) | 08:21 |
| mkoushnir | Alosha, I know. The meeting today 13:30 | 08:21 |
| ifat_afek | alaxey_weyl: cool!! | 08:21 |
| ifat_afek | who else wants to update? | 08:21 |
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| lhartal | I want | 08:22 |
| lhartal | this wee I will start to work on nova set state notifier | 08:22 |
| ifat_afek | lhartal: this is very important to doctor use case | 08:22 |
| lhartal | yes I know. I need to understand the Nova API and hopefully by the end of the wee I'll finish it | 08:23 |
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| lhartal | Also we want to add plugins.conf that will enable to add/remove and disable/enable plugins easily | 08:25 |
| lhartal | also it will support the one-to-many realationship (one synchronizer to many transformers) | 08:26 |
| lhartal | thats all | 08:26 |
| lhartal | :) | 08:26 |
| ifat_afek | lhartal: great, thanks | 08:26 |
| ifat_afek | anyone else wants to update? | 08:27 |
| ifat_afek | I don't see Eddie here, but I can update that he started checking vitrage intensively. we will soon have bugs in our list... | 08:28 |
| ifat_afek | and another update: Guy is about to start writing the entities graph UI | 08:28 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Review action items | 08:28 |
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| ifat_afek | • elisha_r decide about our approach to nagios installation as part of devstack installation | 08:29 |
| elisha_r | as I wrote above, this will be delegated to the user to decide based on properties in the vitrage settings file | 08:29 |
| ifat_afek | • lhartal support template validation | 08:29 |
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| lhartal | Currently it has a lower priority | 08:31 |
| ifat_afek | lhartal: ok | 08:32 |
| ifat_afek | • record a new demo | 08:32 |
| ifat_afek | this was done :-) | 08:32 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Next Steps | 08:32 |
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| ifat_afek | nothing much to say here. we should finish our tasks for the demo in austin | 08:33 |
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| ifat_afek | #topic Open Discussion | 08:33 |
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| ifat_afek | anyone wants to discuss anything? | 08:33 |
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| ifat_afek | ok, so goodbye :-) | 08:37 |
| elisha_r | bye | 08:37 |
| alexey_weyl | good bye my friends :) | 08:37 |
| alexey_weyl | Comrads :) | 08:37 |
| ifat_afek | #endmeeting | 08:37 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 30 08:37:34 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:37 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2016/vitrage.2016-03-30-08.00.html | 08:37 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2016/vitrage.2016-03-30-08.00.txt | 08:37 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2016/vitrage.2016-03-30-08.00.log.html | 08:37 |
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| robcresswell | #startmeeting horizondrivers | 12:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 30 12:00:13 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is robcresswell. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 12:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 12:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: horizondrivers)" | 12:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizondrivers' | 12:00 |
| tsufiev | ./ | 12:00 |
| robcresswell | o/ | 12:00 |
| itxaka | o/ | 12:00 |
| robcresswell | Looks like this will be a quiet one :p | 12:01 |
| robcresswell | #topic Notices | 12:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Notices (Meeting topic: horizondrivers)" | 12:01 | |
| robcresswell | First up, make sure to check the proposed session topics for the Newton summit | 12:01 |
| robcresswell | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/horizon-newton-summit | 12:02 |
| robcresswell | Add your thoughts/ +1 other topics | 12:02 |
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| robcresswell | The second thing I'd like to propose, which was mentioned last week is moving this meeting slot to 800UTC | 12:03 |
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| robcresswell | Attendance from NA is already minimal during this time, and I feel there is no suitable time for East Asia/ Australia etc right now | 12:03 |
| robcresswell | I'll send out an email after this meeting, but wanted to see if there werre any objections | 12:04 |
| tsufiev | personally I would prefer 9:00UTC, but I guess 8:00 is more appropriate for East Asia | 12:04 |
| robcresswell | I'd also prefer 9 :) | 12:05 |
| itxaka | both are ok for me, dont have strong feeling one way or the other | 12:05 |
| wangbo | 8:00 and 9:00 are both ok for china | 12:05 |
| robcresswell | Great. I'm concerned that we're forcing people in UTC +10 etc to come to meetings at stupid times right now, which isnt fair. | 12:05 |
| robcresswell | Time to review blueprints! | 12:06 |
| robcresswell | #topic Blueprint Review | 12:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Blueprint Review (Meeting topic: horizondrivers)" | 12:06 | |
| robcresswell | There are no blueprints on the agenda, so will just pick some at random | 12:07 |
| robcresswell | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/bgp-dynamic-routing | 12:08 |
| robcresswell | Over 5 months old, no code, very light on detail. I'd like to remove it. | 12:08 |
| robcresswell | Thoughts? | 12:09 |
| tsufiev | +1, unclear what is wanted here from horizon | 12:09 |
| itxaka | +1 | 12:09 |
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| robcresswell | We don't really have the capacity for carrying empty features in the hopes it gets picked up right now. | 12:10 |
| robcresswell | #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/bgp-dynamic-routing marked Obsolete | 12:10 |
| robcresswell | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/launch-stack-workflow | 12:11 |
| robcresswell | So this was resurrected within the past few months it seems | 12:12 |
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| tsufiev | looks like a useful thing to me | 12:12 |
| robcresswell | It's quite minor, could almost be a wishlist bug, but that workflow is actually quite odd, compared to the others. | 12:12 |
| robcresswell | Agreed. Approve, Low priority? It still works, just a nice-to-have improvement. | 12:13 |
| tsufiev | honestly, I still don't understand the difference between a BP and a Wishlist bug :) | 12:13 |
| robcresswell | Kind of a grey area. | 12:13 |
| tsufiev | 'something minor' often depends on a reviewer POV | 12:14 |
| robcresswell | True | 12:14 |
| tsufiev | agree with priority | 12:14 |
| robcresswell | generally if something is purely aesthetic, or a reafactor, or consistency improvement, I think its a wishlist bug. You don't really need a spec to refactor something. | 12:14 |
| robcresswell | But when it that becomes a more impactful change, affecting plugins for example, then it should be a feature. We also don't really use blueprints/bugs properly right now, so that doesnt help either. | 12:15 |
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| robcresswell | #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/launch-stack-workflow Approved, Low priority | 12:17 |
| robcresswell | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/stack-designer-ui | 12:17 |
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| tsufiev | lol, it's far more difficult than that | 12:17 |
| tsufiev | I think this guy needs to discuss his feature with Drago Rosson, who's been working on HOTBuilder | 12:18 |
| robcresswell | Agreed | 12:18 |
| robcresswell | the BP itself has some content, but its nearly 2 years old | 12:19 |
| robcresswell | I'm inclined to mark it obsolete | 12:19 |
| tsufiev | +1 | 12:19 |
| robcresswell | The discussion doesnt seem too deep, and there is no code, so I doubt they came upon any new issues that the other Heat UI builders havent. | 12:19 |
| robcresswell | #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/stack-designer-ui marked Obsolete | 12:20 |
| tsufiev | the main issue with Heat builder UI was that there was not enough interest towards it in the community | 12:20 |
| tsufiev | this clearly requires more than one developer effort | 12:20 |
| robcresswell | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/trove-metadata-support | 12:20 |
| robcresswell | this is Trove, can go away | 12:21 |
| tsufiev | move to trove launchpad? | 12:21 |
| robcresswell | :D | 12:21 |
| robcresswell | afaik you can't reassign to Trove like with bugs | 12:21 |
| robcresswell | Unless I'm missing something | 12:22 |
| robcresswell | #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/trove-metadata-support marked Obsolete | 12:23 |
| tsufiev | yes, it seems so | 12:23 |
| tsufiev | stupid launchpad | 12:23 |
| tsufiev | clearly not for OS workflows | 12:23 |
| robcresswell | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/horizon-modal-help | 12:24 |
| tsufiev | superseded with new Angular modals work? | 12:25 |
| robcresswell | Heh, kind of a funny one isnt it. The description is exactly what the new workflows do. | 12:26 |
| robcresswell | Hmm | 12:26 |
| robcresswell | I think I agree. Its not being worked on anyway | 12:27 |
| tsufiev | I would suggest to contact Jaromir and discuss the new Angular work with him | 12:27 |
| robcresswell | The patches are over 2 years old | 12:27 |
| robcresswell | I think Jaromir is the original UX owner too | 12:28 |
| tsufiev | okay, then obsolete/supersede looks ok | 12:28 |
| mrunge | yes, please mark as obsolete | 12:28 |
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| robcresswell | #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/horizon-modal-help marked Obsolete | 12:29 |
| robcresswell | Just digging up some more | 12:29 |
| robcresswell | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/add-vm-encryption-indicator | 12:30 |
| robcresswell | 1.5 years old, now code. Obsolete, IMO. | 12:30 |
| robcresswell | no code* | 12:30 |
| * robcresswell can't recall the instances columns off the top of my head | 12:31 | |
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| tsufiev | I'm not sure we should add a new column | 12:32 |
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| tsufiev | there are already plenty of them | 12:32 |
| robcresswell | That too | 12:32 |
| tsufiev | details overview / new table pattern from Angular (where a row can be expanded) seem more fitting | 12:32 |
| robcresswell | Yup | 12:33 |
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| robcresswell | I think either way, its unlikely to suddenly get worked on, so I've removed for now | 12:33 |
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| tsufiev | just in case | 12:33 |
| robcresswell | #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/add-vm-encryption-indicator marked Obsolete | 12:33 |
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| robcresswell | I'm still going through bug triage too, hoping to get to a properly maintained list soon. Then we can think about holding on to potential new features | 12:34 |
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| robcresswell | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/angular-long-running-service | 12:35 |
| robcresswell | This has no content, just seems to be a placeholder. Obsolete? | 12:35 |
| tsufiev | hm, NA folks could say more on that :) | 12:35 |
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| tsufiev | what if we left angular blueprints for 20:00UTC slot? | 12:36 |
| robcresswell | Do we really want to hold on to one line of text? | 12:36 |
| itxaka | +1 to obsolete | 12:36 |
| mrunge | +1 for obsolete | 12:36 |
| itxaka | as it has no info at all | 12:36 |
| tsufiev | sure, we don't have to | 12:36 |
| tsufiev | agree | 12:37 |
| robcresswell | Its just blueprint noise right now. If its needed, I'm sure they can re-propose 9 words :) | 12:37 |
| robcresswell | #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/angular-long-running-service marked Obsolete | 12:38 |
| robcresswell | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/lock-unlock-server | 12:38 |
| robcresswell | So, this functionality is actually *in* | 12:38 |
| tsufiev | while the bp is blocked :D | 12:39 |
| tsufiev | Display lock status: POSTPONED | 12:39 |
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| robcresswell | It seems like it was blocked on arguing how to displaye the words "Unlocked" and "Locked" | 12:39 |
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| robcresswell | Ah, I see. The Nova API doesnt appear to support the status until a later version | 12:40 |
| robcresswell | There is a bug for this! | 12:41 |
| * robcresswell knew that all that time looking at bugs would come in handy | 12:41 | |
| robcresswell | https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1505845 | 12:42 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1505845 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "Actions "Lock Instance" and "Unlock Instance" should not be shown at the same time" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Ying Zuo (yingzuo) | 12:42 |
| robcresswell | That bug would solve the issue I believe | 12:42 |
| tsufiev | nice | 12:43 |
| robcresswell | I'm going to mark Implemented and leave a whiteboard note | 12:43 |
| robcresswell | I don't think we need to carry this content, when it is just a missing status string which there are bugs for. | 12:44 |
| robcresswell | Thoughts? | 12:44 |
| tsufiev | sounds reasonable | 12:44 |
| itxaka | +1 | 12:44 |
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| robcresswell | #info: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/lock-unlock-server marked Implemented, as the remaining issue is merely a small bug. | 12:47 |
| robcresswell | Sorry was just adding comments :) | 12:47 |
| robcresswell | #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/horizon-glance-large-image-upload | 12:48 |
| robcresswell | Hey tsufiev, this is yours! | 12:48 |
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| robcresswell | :D | 12:48 |
| tsufiev | still blocked with the lack of multipart/form-data processing on Glance side | 12:48 |
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| tsufiev | hope the situation will change in N | 12:49 |
| robcresswell | Awesome. I know this has been an ongoing thing. | 12:49 |
| robcresswell | Going to Approve, mark Blocked for now | 12:49 |
| tsufiev | yep | 12:49 |
| robcresswell | Thoughts on Priority? | 12:50 |
| tsufiev | I would mark it as Medium, since it is a serious headache when uploading large images | 12:50 |
| robcresswell | Sure, I was on the fence between Med and High | 12:51 |
| robcresswell | #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/horizon-glance-large-image-upload Approved, marked Medium (although Blocked for now) | 12:51 |
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| robcresswell | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/add-attributes-to-form-field-choices | 12:52 |
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| robcresswell | Both of the patches have been merged | 12:52 |
| tsufiev | Implemented? | 12:53 |
| robcresswell | Marking Implemented I think | 12:53 |
| robcresswell | yep | 12:53 |
| robcresswell | #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/add-attributes-to-form-field-choices marked Implemented | 12:54 |
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| robcresswell | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/horizon-reports-in-different-formats | 12:54 |
| robcresswell | This one has been argued on a lot | 12:54 |
| robcresswell | My issue with this idea is that I think it should just exist as a pythonclient like everything else | 12:56 |
| robcresswell | I don't think Horizon should carry all the logic for it | 12:56 |
| robcresswell | And it also blocks CLI users from using it | 12:56 |
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| tsufiev | My opinion is that it should be done with plugin | 12:57 |
| robcresswell | Obsolete? | 12:58 |
| tsufiev | while our job is to make writing of such a plugin possible | 12:58 |
| robcresswell | True. | 12:58 |
| itxaka | plugin sounds rigth for this +1 | 12:58 |
| robcresswell | Either it should be a Horizon plugin, or a client + plugin | 12:58 |
| robcresswell | either way, its not core content | 12:58 |
| robcresswell | #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/horizon-reports-in-different-formats marked Obsolete | 13:00 |
| robcresswell | Thats all for today, thanks everyone | 13:00 |
| robcresswell | #endmeeting | 13:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 30 13:00:25 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizondrivers/2016/horizondrivers.2016-03-30-12.00.html | 13:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizondrivers/2016/horizondrivers.2016-03-30-12.00.txt | 13:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizondrivers/2016/horizondrivers.2016-03-30-12.00.log.html | 13:00 |
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| itxaka | \o | 13:00 |
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| sagar_nikam | Hi | 13:03 |
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| sagar_nikam | Hi | 13:03 |
| alexpilotti | #startmeeting hyper-v | 13:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 30 13:03:46 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alexpilotti. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'hyper_v' | 13:03 |
| atuvenie | hi all | 13:03 |
| abalutoiu_ | Hello | 13:03 |
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| claudiub|2 | o/ | 13:03 |
| sagar_nikam | Hi All | 13:03 |
| alexpilotti | hello folks | 13:04 |
| claudiub|2 | hello | 13:04 |
| ionutbalutoiu | Hello | 13:04 |
| sonu | hello | 13:04 |
| alexpilotti | sagar_nikam sent some topics for the agenda, we can start from there | 13:04 |
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| sagar_nikam | alexpilotti: sure thanks | 13:04 |
| alexpilotti | #topic TLS/SSL/Certs | 13:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "TLS/SSL/Certs (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:04 | |
| alexpilotti | sagar_nikam: would you like to intro the topic? | 13:05 |
| sagar_nikam | we have setup a TLS enabled controller | 13:05 |
| sagar_nikam | All APIs are https enabed | 13:05 |
| sagar_nikam | next we installed nova-compute on hyperv host | 13:05 |
| alexpilotti | so all Keystone endpoints have https | 13:06 |
| sagar_nikam | and then copied the certs from controller (.crt file) to hyperv host | 13:06 |
| sagar_nikam | added this entry in nova.conf | 13:06 |
| sagar_nikam | in cafile entry | 13:06 |
| sagar_nikam | nova-compute starts | 13:06 |
| sagar_nikam | but while performing nova boot | 13:06 |
| sagar_nikam | glance download fails | 13:06 |
| sagar_nikam | since the https endpoint is not reached | 13:06 |
| sagar_nikam | and we get the error | 13:07 |
| sagar_nikam | “2016-03-22 11:52:46.273 4808 ERROR nova.compute.manager [instance: a2f491eb-8796-489d-89e4-8cd93fd044cb] SSLError: SSL exception connecting to https://10.1.212.10:9696/v2.0/extensions.json: [SSL: CERTIFICATE_VERIFY_FAILED] certificate verify failed (_ssl.c:590)” | 13:07 |
| sagar_nikam | this is the issue we are hitting | 13:07 |
| sagar_nikam | we are using python 2.7.10 on hyperv host | 13:07 |
| sagar_nikam | googling i found this link | 13:07 |
| sagar_nikam | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/33140382/troubleshooting-ssl-certificate-verify-failed-error | 13:07 |
| alexpilotti | sagar_nikam: here's the Nova code: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/image/glance.py | 13:08 |
| sagar_nikam | the error in that exactly the same we hit | 13:08 |
| alexpilotti | under [glance] | 13:08 |
| alexpilotti | do you have: | 13:08 |
| alexpilotti | protocol = https | 13:08 |
| sagar_nikam | and the response in that link suggests the issue is with openssl version used in python 2.7.10 | 13:08 |
| sagar_nikam | alexpilotti:yes | 13:09 |
| alexpilotti | or since it's deprectaed, | 13:09 |
| sagar_nikam | it is https | 13:09 |
| alexpilotti | api_servers = https://etc ? | 13:09 |
| sagar_nikam | going back to python version 2.7.11 has some fixes | 13:09 |
| alexpilotti | if you set: | 13:09 |
| alexpilotti | api_insecure = True | 13:09 |
| alexpilotti | does it work? | 13:09 |
| sagar_nikam | entry from nova.conf | 13:10 |
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| alexpilotti | yes, under [glance] | 13:10 |
| sagar_nikam | [glance] api_servers = https://my-ip:9292 protocol = https | 13:10 |
| sagar_nikam | i suspect that this issue is got to do with python 2.7.10 | 13:11 |
| alexpilotti | can you add also api_insecure = True | 13:11 |
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| alexpilotti | just for a test | 13:11 |
| sagar_nikam | alexpilotti: your thoughts ? | 13:11 |
| sagar_nikam | alexpilotti: sure, for test i can add that | 13:11 |
| alexpilotti | I think it's just related to openssl not being able to verify the cert on the server | 13:11 |
| sagar_nikam | but for prod, we need to find a solution | 13:11 |
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| sagar_nikam | alexpilotti: is it not related to python version | 13:12 |
| sagar_nikam | see this change log of python | 13:12 |
| alexpilotti | also you need: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/image/glance.py#L155-L160 | 13:12 |
| sagar_nikam | https://hg.python.org/cpython/raw-file/53d30ab403f1/Misc/NEWS | 13:12 |
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| alexpilotti | do you have: | 13:12 |
| sagar_nikam | it has a fix for using openssl | 13:12 |
| alexpilotti | [ssl] cacert = ca.crt ? | 13:13 |
| sagar_nikam | yes | 13:13 |
| sagar_nikam | check this entry | 13:13 |
| sagar_nikam | [ssl] ca_file = "C:\Users\Administrator\Desktop\ca-certificates.crt" | 13:13 |
| alexpilotti | ok then you are good | 13:14 |
| sagar_nikam | actually i have ca_file | 13:14 |
| sagar_nikam | not cacert | 13:14 |
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| sagar_nikam | alexpilotti: have your team got SSL/Certs working on hyperv ? | 13:14 |
| alexpilotti | did you try with python 2.7.11? just to make sure it's not a openssl issue | 13:14 |
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| alexpilotti | so far we never had issues | 13:14 |
| sagar_nikam | alexpilotti: yes, trying with python 2.7.11 | 13:14 |
| alexpilotti | this can be easily isolated as well | 13:15 |
| sagar_nikam | what was the python version you have used | 13:15 |
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| alexpilotti | you just have to create a glanceclient: | 13:15 |
| alexpilotti | glanceclient.Client(str(version), endpoint, **params) | 13:15 |
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| alexpilotti | glanceclient.Client("1", "https://xxx", cacert=xxx.crt) | 13:16 |
| sagar_nikam | you mean in a test code ? | 13:16 |
| alexpilotti | yeah of course | 13:16 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:16 |
| sagar_nikam | we can try that | 13:16 |
| sagar_nikam | just to isolate the issue | 13:16 |
| alexpilotti | just run it on any Windows | 13:16 |
| alexpilotti | yes, correct | 13:17 |
| alexpilotti | we can even go one step further | 13:17 |
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| sagar_nikam | however i am curious, how did it work in your setup ? which version of python on hyperv host | 13:17 |
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| alexpilotti | this is what the glanceclient is using: https://github.com/openstack/python-glanceclient/blob/1995046a5f2445b0b125f4a06f852409c6d4a25d/glanceclient/common/https.py#L234 | 13:18 |
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| alexpilotti | ionutbalutoiu: did that environment that you set up have a Glance endpoint too? | 13:19 |
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| ionutbalutoiu | alexpilotti, no, it was just a deployment with swift + keystone | 13:21 |
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| ionutbalutoiu | both running on https | 13:21 |
| alexpilotti | we can easily replicate the entire setup in devstack | 13:21 |
| alexpilotti | USE_SSL=True | 13:21 |
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| sagar_nikam | alexpilotti: we will try in our setup, can your team try in devstack and let us know your findings | 13:22 |
| alexpilotti | sure, it's worth doing a test | 13:23 |
| sagar_nikam | hopefully we can find a solution soon | 13:23 |
| alexpilotti | I'm quite confident that it's just a configuration issue | 13:23 |
| sagar_nikam | sure, if that is a configuration issue, then it is good | 13:23 |
| alexpilotti | we're doing some tests today | 13:24 |
| sagar_nikam | also are we sure, just copying the certs file to hyperv host is sufficient ? | 13:24 |
| sagar_nikam | alexpilotti: thanks. that helps | 13:24 |
| alexpilotti | if they get properly passed the urllib3, there should be no issue | 13:25 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:25 |
| alexpilotti | we'll get back with what we find out ASAP | 13:25 |
| sagar_nikam | sure... thanks | 13:25 |
| sagar_nikam | we can move to next topic if everybody is done on this topic | 13:25 |
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| alexpilotti | actually, we should move all of our devstack deployments to TLS, as it's more consistent with real production environments | 13:26 |
| alexpilotti | next | 13:26 |
| alexpilotti | #topic FreeRDP | 13:26 |
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| alexpilotti | sagar_nikam: would you like to introduce your request? | 13:27 |
| sagar_nikam | sure | 13:27 |
| sagar_nikam | freerdp-webconnect | 13:27 |
| sagar_nikam | any plans of supporting it on linux | 13:27 |
| sagar_nikam | we would like to use it on linux | 13:27 |
| alexpilotti | it is already building on Linux | 13:28 |
| sagar_nikam | in the same way of novnc | 13:28 |
| sagar_nikam | from the last i saw, it was not available | 13:29 |
| alexpilotti | it builds on ubuntu and centos afaik, need to double check | 13:29 |
| sagar_nikam | can you point me to the link ? | 13:29 |
| sagar_nikam | i tried on ubuntu | 13:29 |
| sagar_nikam | did not work | 13:29 |
| alexpilotti | ubuntu 14.04? | 13:29 |
| alexpilotti | what did you run to build it? | 13:29 |
| sagar_nikam | also your instructions are for installing it from code, we would like a .deb file | 13:30 |
| sagar_nikam | yes ubuntu 14.04 | 13:30 |
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| sagar_nikam | debian file is not available | 13:30 |
| alexpilotti | you mean a deb? | 13:30 |
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| sagar_nikam | yes | 13:31 |
| alexpilotti | ATM it needs to be built with ./setup-all.sh -i | 13:31 |
| sagar_nikam | deb is not available | 13:31 |
| alexpilotti | we dont provide prebuilt debs or rpms | 13:31 |
| sagar_nikam | yes correct, | 13:31 |
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| sagar_nikam | that was my question. any plans of supporting deb or rpm ? | 13:32 |
| alexpilotti | but we'd happily accept contributions :) | 13:32 |
| alexpilotti | we dont plan to do it in the short term | 13:32 |
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| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:32 |
| alexpilotti | as you know we use mostly windows ATM, so although we support building on Linux, we don't plan to package it | 13:32 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:33 |
| alexpilotti | you also need to make sure that all dependencies are properly satisfied as well | 13:33 |
| alexpilotti | doing a custom deb package based on the compiled binaries shouldn't be too difficult IMO | 13:33 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:34 |
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| sagar_nikam | we will use it as nad when it is available, till that time, we will probably use it on windows | 13:34 |
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| alexpilotti | sure | 13:34 |
| sagar_nikam | we will use it as nad when it is available, till that time, we will probably use it on windows | 13:34 |
| alexpilotti | anything else you'd like to add on the topic? | 13:35 |
| sagar_nikam | no | 13:35 |
| alexpilotti | cool, next: | 13:35 |
| alexpilotti | #topic: Newton – Plans for resubmitting FC and cluster patches upstream | 13:35 |
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| alexpilotti | AFAIK the windows is open now, so we can start resubmitting all the BP specs | 13:36 |
| alexpilotti | and ensure that the patches are ready for review etc | 13:36 |
| alexpilotti | claudiub|2: can you confirm? | 13:36 |
| sagar_nikam | both cluster driver and FC are important, hopefully they get merged in newton | 13:37 |
| claudiub|2 | bp specs reapproved for n | 13:37 |
| alexpilotti | sagar_nikam: yes, they are all here: https://github.com/openstack/nova-specs/tree/master/specs/newton/approved | 13:37 |
| sagar_nikam | alexpilotti: can we have these 2 in the top 3 from hyperv for nova core reviewers | 13:37 |
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| alexpilotti | well, they want 3 patches at a time | 13:38 |
| alexpilotti | any preference in the priority between cluster and FC? | 13:38 |
| sagar_nikam | cluster first, FC second | 13:38 |
| alexpilotti | ok | 13:39 |
| alexpilotti | atuvenie: can you please take care of rebasing on master? | 13:39 |
| atuvenie | yes | 13:40 |
| alexpilotti | also, there are a ton of BPs that are pending approval: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova?searchtext=hyper-v | 13:40 |
| alexpilotti | claudiub|2: can you please ping johnthetubaguy and ask if they can be reapproved? | 13:40 |
| alexpilotti | those are the ones w/o specs (aka trivial bps) | 13:41 |
| claudiub|2 | sure | 13:41 |
| alexpilotti | there are at least 10 of them | 13:41 |
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| alexpilotti | also the cluster one says "slow progress", should be changed in "needs code review" as soon as patches get rebased | 13:42 |
| alexpilotti | I'd also start rebasing the FC ones | 13:42 |
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| alexpilotti | especially if they aready to go as is | 13:42 |
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| alexpilotti | sagar_nikam: any other question on this topic? | 13:43 |
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| sagar_nikam | since we are at the start of M | 13:43 |
| sagar_nikam | lets get these patches submitted for review | 13:43 |
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| sagar_nikam | hopefully we get some review time | 13:43 |
| alexpilotti | sagar_nikam: we might need again your +1s on those patches after rebase, BTW | 13:43 |
| sagar_nikam | sure | 13:44 |
| sagar_nikam | i will work with hemna and kurt to get +1 for FC | 13:44 |
| alexpilotti | FC ones should be easier to rebase. lpetrut, can you please take care of those? | 13:45 |
| alexpilotti | e.g.: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/258617/ | 13:45 |
| sagar_nikam | lpetrut: let me know when you need review from hemna and kurt | 13:45 |
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| alexpilotti | also https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273504/ | 13:46 |
| alexpilotti | we need to ask johnthetubaguy to remove the -2s, since the BP got re-approved for N | 13:46 |
| alexpilotti | lpetrut: you here? | 13:46 |
| lpetrut | sagar_nikam: sure | 13:46 |
| alexpilotti | there's also the os-brick one w a -2: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273504/ | 13:47 |
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| lpetrut | since Newton is now open, I guess I should talk with John to remove the -2 | 13:48 |
| alexpilotti | I'd suggest to start on those ASAP | 13:48 |
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| alexpilotti | lpetrut: yes, there's no reason to keep them blocked anymore | 13:48 |
| alexpilotti | 12' to go | 13:48 |
| alexpilotti | anything else on the topic? | 13:48 |
| sagar_nikam | no | 13:49 |
| alexpilotti | ok, next | 13:49 |
| sagar_nikam | sonu: any networking topics | 13:49 |
| sagar_nikam | we have 12' | 13:49 |
| alexpilotti | #topic wait for Neutron vif events | 13:49 |
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| alexpilotti | we added support in compute-hyperv for waiting for Neutron when spawning an instance | 13:50 |
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| alexpilotti | we lose a 6% performance, but it looks like we got rid of the WMI ACL bug | 13:51 |
| sagar_nikam | alexpilotti: do we have a bug for it upstream ? any plans of upstreaming it | 13:51 |
| alexpilotti | yes, sure | 13:51 |
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| alexpilotti | not surre if this wont require a BP | 13:51 |
| claudiub|2 | there's a bp for this already, it's approved | 13:52 |
| claudiub|2 | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/hyper-v-spawn-on-neutron-event | 13:52 |
| claudiub|2 | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/hyper-v-spawn-on-neutron-event | 13:52 |
| alexpilotti | here we go :) | 13:52 |
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| alexpilotti | already reapproved | 13:53 |
| alexpilotti | we just need to send up a patch | 13:53 |
| sagar_nikam | looking at the BP, it seems a small change | 13:53 |
| sagar_nikam | not very complex | 13:53 |
| alexpilotti | sagar_nikam: https://github.com/openstack/compute-hyperv/commit/3b117c95285a5cf52be6440f955c8c9c33249a7b | 13:53 |
| alexpilotti | here's the compute-hyperv equivalent | 13:54 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:54 |
| alexpilotti | it can be applied to Nova roughly as is | 13:54 |
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| alexpilotti | ok, tests and paths need to be changed, but the logic is the same | 13:55 |
| alexpilotti | also it's not dependent on anything else | 13:55 |
| alexpilotti | 5' to go | 13:55 |
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| alexpilotti | #topic performance | 13:55 |
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| alexpilotti | last Rally tests are great, looks like we got ahead of KVM, by a tiny margin on the Hadoop test case :) | 13:56 |
| alexpilotti | I'm very happy about all the Mitaka improvements | 13:56 |
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| alexpilotti | sagar_nikam: any plans to do some performance tests? | 13:57 |
| sagar_nikam | how may of these mitaka improvements already upstream ? | 13:57 |
| alexpilotti | all the os-win ones | 13:57 |
| alexpilotti | luckily a lot of those are os-win specific, so we dont have the Nova bottleneck | 13:58 |
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| sagar_nikam | we are still on liberty, i know that sonu:'s team is planning scale tests on liberty in few weeks | 13:58 |
| alexpilotti | cool | 13:58 |
| sagar_nikam | good to know that all changes are in os-win | 13:58 |
| sagar_nikam | alexpilotti: we may need some help if scale results point to issues | 13:59 |
| sagar_nikam | in liberty | 13:59 |
| alexpilotti | sure, happy to help | 13:59 |
| sagar_nikam | thanks | 13:59 |
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| sagar_nikam | we will reach to your team if required | 13:59 |
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| alexpilotti | we're also going to backport a lot of stuff to Liberty / Kilo as soon as Mitaka is fully released | 14:00 |
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| alexpilotti | cool thanks! | 14:00 |
| alexpilotti | time's over! | 14:00 |
| sagar_nikam | thank you all | 14:00 |
| alexpilotti | thanks y'all for joining! | 14:00 |
| alexpilotti | #endmeeting | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 30 14:00:37 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2016/hyper_v.2016-03-30-13.03.html | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2016/hyper_v.2016-03-30-13.03.txt | 14:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2016/hyper_v.2016-03-30-13.03.log.html | 14:00 |
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| rhochmuth | #startmeeting monasca | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 30 15:00:03 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rhochmuth. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:00 | |
| rhochmuth | o/ | 15:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'monasca' | 15:00 |
| Kamil | o/ | 15:00 |
| fabiog | o/ | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | Agenda is at, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-team-meeting-agenda | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | Agenda for Wednesday March 30, 2016 (15:00 UTC) | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 1. Non-periodic metrics and aggregate functions, are all suitable ? | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 2. Anyone else seeing https://bugs.launchpad.net/monasca/+bug/1559165? | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 3. Anyone seeing period monasca-api hangs (java)? | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 4. Compression support for POSTing metrics? | 15:00 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1559165 in Monasca "monasca-api log flooded with jetty parser errors (java api)" [Undecided,New] | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 5. Non-periodic/periodic metrics - update | 15:00 |
| bklei | o/ | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 6. Grafana 2 horizon update https://review.openstack.org/#/c/295983/ | 15:00 |
| hosanai | o/ | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | Needed for devstack integration | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | hi everyone | 15:00 |
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| shinya_kwbt | o/ | 15:00 |
| tomasztrebski | o/ | 15:00 |
| bklei | good morning | 15:00 |
| slogan | morning | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | looks like a few agenda items are up today | 15:01 |
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| rbak_ | o/ | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | but we should get through hopefully relatively quickly | 15:01 |
| ddieterly | o/ | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | and then can have other discussion | 15:01 |
| tomasztrebski | cool | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | so first topic | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | #topic Non-periodic metrics | 15:01 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "Non-periodic metrics (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:01 | |
| rhochmuth | tomasz: Is that you? | 15:02 |
| tomasztrebski | yes, actually it was a question: Non-periodic metrics and aggregate functions, are all suitable ? | 15:02 |
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| rhochmuth | are you referring to the case of applying like a statistic function to a non-periodic metric | 15:02 |
| tomasztrebski | yeah | 15:02 |
| tomasztrebski | something like: does avg make sense for metric that are non-periodic | 15:03 |
| bklei | it does in our case | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | i was hoping to not do something in this area, but now that you've brought it up, there are probably items worth addressing | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | i think it is ok | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | but, the question is what should the average be | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | for a metric that you haven't received in a long time | 15:04 |
| tomasztrebski | bklei: good to know | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | should it be the average of the last value | 15:04 |
| qwebirc46327 | o/ | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | or should it be 0 | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | or NaN | 15:04 |
| tomasztrebski | I am not sure how does it work in thresh right now...does it calculate average from all measurements or just a few last | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | personally, i'm ok addressing the non-periodic metrics in just the threshold engine for now | 15:05 |
| slogan | it doesn't make sense without a time range specified. | 15:05 |
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| rhochmuth | in the threshold engine it sould just be the last value | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | so, if the value hasn't been sent within the period, the value is just the last value that was sent | 15:06 |
| rhochmuth | that was the interpretation that i had | 15:06 |
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| rhochmuth | so, let's say normally a periodic metric is sent every 30 seconds approximately | 15:07 |
| rhochmuth | if it is a non-periodic metric then the assumption is that the value for the metric, is just the last value | 15:07 |
| tomasztrebski | slogan: if the time period would have to specified that would include modification in the UI as well, not to mention other components...that's not so trivial I guess | 15:08 |
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| slogan | But average could be useful if a range is specified? Consider rainfall. Answers are completely different if averaged by day, month, year, season. | 15:08 |
| slogan | nod | 15:08 |
| tomasztrebski | roland: so, right now let's stay with what we have and keep this topic open, if someone would come (either Fujitsu or someone else) with the decent idea how to implement right | 15:09 |
| tomasztrebski | and basically I agree with slogan | 15:09 |
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| tomasztrebski | but again, doing all that right now is too much | 15:09 |
| slogan | makes sense | 15:09 |
| rhochmuth | that works for me | 15:09 |
| tomasztrebski | works for me to | 15:10 |
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| slogan | could lead to some interesting insights in a UI to be avble to compute an average on the fly by dialing a periond knob | 15:10 |
| slogan | s/periond/period/ | 15:10 |
| rhochmuth | ok, are we good | 15:11 |
| rhochmuth | is it time to move on? | 15:11 |
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| tomasztrebski | for me it is, that answers I guess the community feeling about that | 15:11 |
| rhochmuth | thanks tomasz | 15:12 |
| rhochmuth | #topic Anyone else seeing https://bugs.launchpad.net/monasca/+bug/1559165? | 15:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Anyone else seeing https://bugs.launchpad.net/monasca/+bug/1559165? (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:12 | |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1559165 in Monasca "monasca-api log flooded with jetty parser errors (java api)" [Undecided,New] | 15:12 |
| bklei | that's me | 15:12 |
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| rhochmuth | stop bringing bugs | 15:12 |
| tomasztrebski | just a quick question => build from stable/mitaka ? | 15:12 |
| bklei | since we updated to the latest monasca-api (java) -- logs flooded with | 15:12 |
| slogan | probably user error | 15:12 |
| bklei | org.eclipse.jetty.http.HttpParser: Parsing Exception: java.lang.IllegalStateException: too much data after closed for HttpChannelOverHttp@6f19e5fb{r=1,a=IDLE,uri=-} | 15:12 |
| bklei | :) | 15:12 |
| * slogan runs | 15:12 | |
| rhochmuth | lost my train of thought, that was a joke | 15:12 |
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| bklei | we hadn't brought in an api since 12/10, but i've narrowed it to a change between 12/10 and 1/19 | 15:13 |
| bklei | not that it narrows it down much | 15:13 |
| rhochmuth | still come back to your questino tomasz | 15:13 |
| bklei | i can keep digging -- but is helion seeing this? | 15:13 |
| bklei | or anyone else using latest monasca-api? | 15:13 |
| rhochmuth | bklei: we are not aware of any issues, and have been doing a lot of testing | 15:13 |
| bklei | (java) | 15:13 |
| rhochmuth | we are using latest java monasca-api in helion | 15:13 |
| tomasztrebski | we are in middle of updating monasca-* to stable/mitaka | 15:13 |
| bklei | i'm talking FLOODING the logs | 15:13 |
| bklei | but api works | 15:13 |
| rhochmuth | and are getting ready for a release | 15:14 |
| rhochmuth | so have been doing a lot of testing | 15:14 |
| tomasztrebski | so I'd have ask Artur tommorow about that, till now nothing like that has been spotted | 15:14 |
| bklei | ok, maybe we're special at TWC will keep digging | 15:14 |
| rhochmuth | i'll check with our testers, but they woudl have told us if they saw something | 15:14 |
| bklei | k, thx | 15:14 |
| rhochmuth | you guys are always special IMHO | 15:14 |
| bklei | short bus | 15:14 |
| slogan | might be interesting to see if the exception handling causes a retry or is just informative | 15:15 |
| rhochmuth | i'll also update my devstack env with a java build to see what happens | 15:15 |
| slogan | you say things work still, no appararent loss of data, functionality? | 15:15 |
| bklei | from what i read, it could be a bad client call -- sending extra stuff | 15:15 |
| bklei | but the old monasca-api didn't care | 15:15 |
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| bklei | exactly -- seems that it works fine | 15:15 |
| tomasztrebski | maybe something that pushes data to monasca was changed in a way that causing that problem | 15:16 |
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| rhochmuth | that is a possiblity | 15:16 |
| bklei | could be, and the new api is just more sensitive | 15:16 |
| rhochmuth | we continue to improve the input validation | 15:16 |
| tomasztrebski | after all monasca-api is a server that monasca-agent (mainly or only) sends data to, right | 15:16 |
| tomasztrebski | ? | 15:16 |
| rhochmuth | although, i would have expected a better error message | 15:16 |
| bklei | yeah, and some custom scripts/crons | 15:16 |
| rhochmuth | the log that you've supplied doesn't seem very informative | 15:17 |
| rhochmuth | which isn't expected | 15:17 |
| bklei | that's all that's there -- and lots of it | 15:17 |
| bklei | i'll keep digging and report back | 15:17 |
| rhochmuth | ok, thanks | 15:17 |
| bklei | or let me know if you see/figure it out | 15:17 |
| rhochmuth | i'll ask around, and do some test too | 15:17 |
| bklei | thx | 15:17 |
| slogan | maybe this lends some clues: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/29527803/eliminating-or-understanding-jetty-9s-illegalstateexception-too-much-data-aft | 15:18 |
| bklei | yeah, that's the page that talks about a badly written client :) | 15:19 |
| slogan | perhaps an issue with closing the http connection, hard to say | 15:19 |
| slogan | so what is the client in this case? | 15:19 |
| bklei | primarily monasca-agent | 15:19 |
| bklei | but also some cron-driven scripts/POSTs | 15:19 |
| slogan | ok | 15:19 |
| rhochmuth | aha | 15:19 |
| bklei | i can shut different clients off in my sandbox, that's a good idea i hadn't thought of, to narrow it down | 15:20 |
| slogan | should be isolatable with some tracing I suppose | 15:20 |
| slogan | yes | 15:20 |
| slogan | divide and conquer | 15:20 |
| bklei | :) | 15:20 |
| tomasztrebski | LOG_LEVEL=All and go for it ]:-> | 15:20 |
| bklei | yup | 15:21 |
| rhochmuth | that does seem the first place to look, since no one else has seen it | 15:21 |
| bklei | ok, i think we can move on | 15:21 |
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| rhochmuth | ok, thanks bklei | 15:21 |
| rhochmuth | tomasz you were asking a question | 15:22 |
| rhochmuth | about stable/mitaka | 15:22 |
| tomasztrebski | it was to bklei: does the bug started to happen on stable/mitka build of monasca-api | 15:22 |
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| bklei | yeah, we brought in a new java api about a week ago, and hadn't done that since 12/10, that's when it began | 15:23 |
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| rhochmuth | sounds like it was well before stable/mitaka as that was only created last Friday | 15:23 |
| bklei | we built it locally with master at 2016-03-17 23:14 | 15:23 |
| tomasztrebski | yeah, so we are now updating to this branch as well, so I'll ask Artur who's doing the upgrade to take a look at logs for monasca-log-api | 15:24 |
| tomasztrebski | bleh...monasca-api | 15:24 |
| tomasztrebski | specifically I guess it is requests.log, right ? | 15:24 |
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| bklei | oh -- in our environment, /var/log/monasca/monasca-api.log | 15:25 |
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| rhochmuth | #topic Compression support for POSTing metrics? | 15:26 |
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| rhochmuth | started next topic, while previous one wraps-up | 15:26 |
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| bklei | did we skip a topic -- api hang? | 15:26 |
| rhochmuth | #topic Anyone seeing period monasca-api hangs (java)? | 15:26 |
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| rhochmuth | oops | 15:26 |
| tomasztrebski | i guess we did :) | 15:26 |
| bklei | we've seen this happen 3 times this week, anyone else see this in testing? | 15:26 |
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| rhochmuth | no | 15:27 |
| tomasztrebski | again...nope :( | 15:27 |
| bklei | nothing in the logs, process unresponsive, doesn't respond to thread dump, just dead | 15:27 |
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| bklei | we're in the process of trying to get better debug msgs by leaving verbose logging on, hope to catch it | 15:27 |
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| bklei | just wondering if anyone else has noticed this | 15:28 |
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| rhochmuth | we haven't every hit any problems like this | 15:28 |
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| bklei | k | 15:28 |
| tomasztrebski | and this is also for this master build you mentioned ? | 15:28 |
| bklei | exactly -- hadn't seen it prior to that upgrade | 15:29 |
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| rhochmuth | possibly a related problem them | 15:29 |
| rhochmuth | to your previous one | 15:29 |
| rhochmuth | is memory growing | 15:29 |
| rhochmuth | are file handles being used up | 15:29 |
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| rhochmuth | and not release | 15:29 |
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| rhochmuth | is vertica and kafka up | 15:29 |
| rhochmuth | just throwing out the usual places to look | 15:30 |
| bklei | will validate that next time (file descriptors, etc) -- yeah the whole stack was still up and healthy | 15:30 |
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| bklei | ok, moving on i guess | 15:30 |
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| rhochmuth | i guess, i don't have any great suggestions | 15:31 |
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| rhochmuth | we just did a huge amount fo scale testing and haven't seen any issues like this occur | 15:31 |
| bklei | i hadn't thought of the FD check, that's helpful | 15:31 |
| tomasztrebski | just one question: does this hanging seems to happen right away, or does it take some time ? | 15:31 |
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| bklei | over time | 15:31 |
| tomasztrebski | mhm | 15:31 |
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| rhochmuth | i'll check around and see if i'm come up with more ideas | 15:32 |
| bklei | thx | 15:32 |
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| rhochmuth | we had an issue with kafka on using a lot of fd's, but not sure if that woudl impact you | 15:32 |
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| slogan | easy way to check that would be to look at /proc/fds perhaps | 15:33 |
| bklei | hmm, can look there, we haven't updated kafka in a while in our env | 15:33 |
| slogan | see if it is growing | 15:33 |
| tomasztrebski | well file descriptions are limited per user (soft and hard) so if the process owner would reach the limit | 15:33 |
| bklei | +1 | 15:33 |
| tomasztrebski | that would cause problem only for given application | 15:33 |
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| tomasztrebski | as far as I know how limits work :D | 15:33 |
| rhochmuth | #topic Compression support for POSTing metrics? | 15:33 |
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| bklei | this is more a question -- have we considered this? | 15:34 |
| slogan | is this gzip compression of http payloads? | 15:34 |
| tomasztrebski | you mean something like gzip and stuff ? | 15:34 |
| tomasztrebski | slogan: :P | 15:34 |
| bklei | one of the primarly consumers of monasca here at TWC asked about zipping up data to POST | 15:34 |
| bklei | like zlib | 15:34 |
| slogan | I got flustered yesterday by horizon doing this, I was trying to sniff the traffic and see what was being sent... :-( | 15:35 |
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| rhochmuth | brain lapse on my http | 15:35 |
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| tomasztrebski | did costumer asked only to zip traffic toward monasca-api ? or also data that is sent via kafka queue ? | 15:35 |
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| tomasztrebski | because I think that it'd be also possible | 15:35 |
| bklei | just straight to monasca endpoint | 15:36 |
| rhochmuth | but are you asking about just applying a compression encoding | 15:36 |
| bklei | yes | 15:36 |
| slogan | are we sure the compression/decompression time night not become a bottleneck somehow? | 15:36 |
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| slogan | er, might | 15:37 |
| bklei | not a huge issue/request, just throwing it out there | 15:37 |
| rhochmuth | there isn't anything in the monasca-api to accept different encodings | 15:37 |
| bklei | that's what i figured, and we've got bigger fish to fry atm | 15:37 |
| rhochmuth | so, it could involve code changes | 15:37 |
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| rhochmuth | not necessarily code, but decorators and annotation | 15:37 |
| bklei | yeah | 15:37 |
| rhochmuth | i'm assuming dropwizard could handle automatically | 15:38 |
| rhochmuth | if enabled | 15:38 |
| rhochmuth | and not sure about falcon | 15:38 |
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| rhochmuth | so, it could be low-hanging fruit to enable this | 15:38 |
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| slogan | would this be something you'd want a config knob for, or perhaps something in the API so it could be enabled, disabled by a client? | 15:38 |
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| bklei | i have to drop and take my kid to the dentist, thx for discussing the topic(s) | 15:38 |
| rhochmuth | bye bklei | 15:39 |
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| tomasztrebski | in falcon I did a quick search and it looks like that it should be possible directly on gunicorn (or simpy WSGI server) | 15:39 |
| rhochmuth | that makes sense | 15:39 |
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| rhochmuth | since bklei is gone | 15:40 |
| rhochmuth | #topic Non-periodic/periodic metrics - update | 15:40 |
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| tomasztrebski | that's me | 15:40 |
| tomasztrebski | just wanted to give an update for latest patch sets, that would allow reviewers to grap the concept I am trying to introduce there better | 15:40 |
| tomasztrebski | so: following roland's and craig's advice, I modified the schema for SubAlarm table by adding sporadic field (boolean, false by default) | 15:41 |
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| tomasztrebski | that accomplishes the case where topology is restarted somehow and threshold is able to recognize sub alarms for which sent metric were sparse | 15:42 |
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| tomasztrebski | since most of them will be periodic | 15:42 |
| rhochmuth | cool | 15:42 |
| tomasztrebski | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292758 | 15:42 |
| rhochmuth | i'll start reviewing and testing it out | 15:42 |
| tomasztrebski | this change contains code that pulls that information from metric and saves in SubAlarm right before it is persisted (either mysql or ORM) | 15:43 |
| tomasztrebski | I've added comparing metric definitions between metric and sub alarm | 15:43 |
| tomasztrebski | but I am not sure if that accomplishes multitenant support | 15:43 |
| tomasztrebski | meaning to say in metric definition there is no information about the tenant | 15:43 |
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| tomasztrebski | so I'd still need to figure out how to get that information in order to mark only specific SubAlarm as sporadic, not all for given Alarm | 15:44 |
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| tomasztrebski | so that's more or less that for now | 15:45 |
| rhochmuth | ok, i'll let craig know what is going on | 15:45 |
| rhochmuth | and i'll need to dive in deeper in the code | 15:45 |
| rhochmuth | to help out comment at this point | 15:45 |
| tomasztrebski | I will try to put references to either mysql schema or mysql migration script that would add sporadic field to exisiting schema | 15:45 |
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| tomasztrebski | possible at gist | 15:45 |
| tomasztrebski | *a gist | 15:45 |
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| rhochmuth | yes, i'll need that | 15:46 |
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| rhochmuth | you just added a single column or multiple | 15:46 |
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| tomasztrebski | a single column | 15:46 |
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| tomasztrebski | I dug a bit between tables and it looks like that SubAlarm is the best place to put it | 15:46 |
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| rhochmuth | that sounds right | 15:47 |
| tomasztrebski | before that: one functional requirement should also be there (at least I hope I implemented it right) | 15:47 |
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| tomasztrebski | meaning to say: once alarm for sporadic metric enters OK/ALARM state | 15:48 |
| tomasztrebski | it wont ever go back to UNDETERMINED statte | 15:48 |
| tomasztrebski | *state | 15:48 |
| rhochmuth | that is my understanding too | 15:48 |
| tomasztrebski | that's what we all agreed upon :) | 15:48 |
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| rhochmuth | should we move on? | 15:49 |
| tomasztrebski | in the meantime there are some useful log outputs (debug or trace) I've added that allow to track what's going on with Metric,Alarm or SubAlarm between different bolts | 15:49 |
| tomasztrebski | yes, that's all | 15:49 |
| tomasztrebski | :) | 15:49 |
| rhochmuth | ok, thanks tomasz, i'll start getting into it | 15:49 |
| rhochmuth | #topic Grafana 2 horizon update https://review.openstack.org/#/c/295983/ | 15:50 |
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| rhochmuth | rbak: u there? | 15:50 |
| rbak_ | That's me | 15:50 |
| rbak_ | Just a reminder that this patch exists. I had one question, but no reviews so far. | 15:50 |
| rbak_ | I can't really integrate grafana 2 into devstack unless this gets merged. | 15:50 |
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| rhochmuth | looks like shinya tests | 15:51 |
| rhochmuth | sorry, tested it | 15:51 |
| rhochmuth | does this work in the old monasca-vagrant environment ? | 15:52 |
| rhochmuth | i was wondering how to test? | 15:52 |
| rbak_ | It defaults to the old grafana, so you'd have to configure it yourself. | 15:52 |
| shinya_kwbt | +1 | 15:52 |
| rbak_ | You'd also need to build grafana. | 15:52 |
| rhochmuth | If shinya ways it is ready, i'm ready to merge | 15:53 |
| rhochmuth | you to you shinya | 15:53 |
| rbak_ | Works for me. I just didn't want to merge without input. | 15:53 |
| shinya_kwbt | Yes I tested with grafana2 | 15:53 |
| rhochmuth | sounds like i should +2, unless anyeone else want to take a close look | 15:54 |
| shinya_kwbt | I configured grafana2 | 15:54 |
| rhochmuth | i would like to see this added to the DevStack env ASAP | 15:54 |
| rhochmuth | then i won't need to worry about monasca-vagrant anymore | 15:54 |
| rhochmuth | if that works for everyone | 15:54 |
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| slogan | works for me, I just +1'd it | 15:56 |
| shinya_kwbt | +1 | 15:56 |
| rhochmuth | sorry for the delay, but if anyone else want to review further please let me know in the next 5 seconds, | 15:56 |
| rhochmuth | else, i', ready to merge it | 15:57 |
| slogan | time's up! | 15:57 |
| rhochmuth | ok, it is merged | 15:57 |
| rbak_ | thanks | 15:57 |
| rbak_ | I'll get back to devstack today then | 15:57 |
| rhochmuth | if you need any help with the devstack, please let me know | 15:57 |
| rbak_ | will do | 15:57 |
| rhochmuth | well, it is almost top of the hour again | 15:58 |
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| rhochmuth | seems like we coudl go on again | 15:58 |
| rhochmuth | any questions in closing | 15:58 |
| tomasztrebski | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297039/, Roland if would take a look at this change that would be great, you've added v3 implementation, which I adjusted in several places, would be great to if you could check that | 15:58 |
| tomasztrebski | mine :D | 15:58 |
| Kamil | so grafana2 will be a part of mitaka release, right? | 15:58 |
| rhochmuth | grafana 2 won't be part of mitaka release as it isn't an official openstack project | 15:58 |
| rhochmuth | but it will work and be integrated into the DevStack plugin shortly | 15:59 |
| rhochmuth | tomasz: i'll review your code | 15:59 |
| Kamil | ok. thx | 15:59 |
| tomasztrebski | roland: thx | 15:59 |
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| slogan | rhochmuth: just a ping: we need to settle on talks in Austin, or not. Soon :-) | 15:59 |
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| hosanai | tanks & bye | 15:59 |
| rhochmuth | yes slogan | 15:59 |
| rhochmuth | i'm still waiting to hear back | 15:59 |
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| shinya_kwbt | bye | 16:00 |
| slogan | from the event about rooms? | 16:00 |
| rhochmuth | by hosanai | 16:00 |
| rhochmuth | thanks shinya | 16:00 |
| tomasztrebski | cheers and nice day...or evening...depends on time zone you guys are in... (laughing....) | 16:00 |
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| rhochmuth | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 30 16:00:35 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2016/monasca.2016-03-30-15.00.html | 16:00 |
| markvoelker | #startmeeting defcore | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2016/monasca.2016-03-30-15.00.txt | 16:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2016/monasca.2016-03-30-15.00.log.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 30 16:00:41 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is markvoelker. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'defcore' | 16:00 |
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| markvoelker | #chair hogepodge | 16:00 |
| openstack | Warning: Nick not in channel: hogepodge | 16:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: hogepodge markvoelker | 16:00 |
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| markvoelker | o/ | 16:01 |
| catherineD | o/ | 16:01 |
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| kbaikov | o/ | 16:01 |
| docaedo | o/ | 16:01 |
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| markvoelker | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DefCoreRing.17 Agenda | 16:01 |
| luzC | o/ | 16:01 |
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| ativelkov | o/ | 16:02 |
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| markvoelker | #info eglute is away today | 16:02 |
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| markvoelker | #topic Need input on Glare API | 16:03 |
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| markvoelker | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283136/ | 16:03 |
| markvoelker | nikhil, are you here? | 16:03 |
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| mfedosin | I request nikhil_k here :) | 16:04 |
| Rockyg | o/ | 16:04 |
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| mfedosin | anyway, if he's not here I can describe the spec | 16:05 |
| markvoelker | mfedosin: go for it | 16:05 |
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| mfedosin | We proposed a spec for stable Glare API | 16:06 |
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| mfedosin | Glare is a new service in Glance repo, that includes Images API | 16:06 |
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| mfedosin | but it extends it with support of various Openstack services | 16:07 |
| mfedosin | like Heat or Murano | 16:07 |
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| nikhil_k | o/ | 16:08 |
| mfedosin | api is unified for all artifact types | 16:08 |
| nikhil_k | sorry a bit late, last meeting ran over | 16:08 |
| mfedosin | oh, hi there :) | 16:08 |
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| mfedosin | I described the situation with Glare api | 16:08 |
| nikhil_k | mfedosin: please go ahead, I will add more points after you're done | 16:08 |
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| mfedosin | Glance v2 image api is the subset of Glare v1 | 16:09 |
| mfedosin | only prefixes are different | 16:09 |
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| mfedosin | in glance it is '/v2/images/' | 16:09 |
| mfedosin | in glare '/v1/artifacts/images/' | 16:09 |
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| mfedosin | also it's proposed to list all installed artifacts types with GET '/v1/artifacts' | 16:11 |
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| mfedosin | and also I'm interested should we support listing of 'all' artifacts, regardless of their types? | 16:11 |
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| ativelkov | +1 for listing all, since it adds interoperability for the clouds | 16:12 |
| nikhil_k | I think we've a few questions for the committee: | 16:13 |
| nikhil_k | firstly, thanks mfedosin for linking the spec | 16:13 |
| markvoelker | +1, thanks for the briefing mfedosin | 16:13 |
| nikhil_k | Q1) Would a option to support image records using the /v1/artifacts/images/ be okay? glare API will be a separate running process (service) | 16:13 |
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| nikhil_k | Q2) Listing of all the records in a particular DB table would mean that some clouds that support subset of artifacts types will return only those supported ones. | 16:14 |
| nikhil_k | Q2 contd.) for ex: cloud 1 exposes heat and murano templates, cloud 2 exposes heat, murano and tacker | 16:15 |
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| nikhil_k | the return values for cloud 1 will not have mention of tacker records | 16:15 |
| ativelkov | nikhil_k: cloud 1 will not have them in DB at all | 16:16 |
| nikhil_k | right | 16:16 |
| nikhil_k | Q3) what should be the bare minimum and maximum API exposed for this to be approved as a part of DefCore? | 16:16 |
| markvoelker | nikhil_k: Ok, let's take those one at a time... | 16:16 |
| markvoelker | nikhil_k: So for Q1: is the concern here that there's potential overlap with the glance API since one is a superset of the other? | 16:16 |
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| nikhil_k | markvoelker: the plan is to superset glance to help operators move their glance installations to glare at potentially some future cycle | 16:17 |
| nikhil_k | with glance team maintaining both these services to help that cause | 16:17 |
| markvoelker | nikhil_k: Ok. So, in general there's nothing in DefCore's criteria that says "there shalt be one way to do a thing and only one way to do a thing" | 16:18 |
| markvoelker | However | 16:18 |
| markvoelker | When there's more than one way to do a thing, it often ends up hurting adoption of a particular API | 16:18 |
| markvoelker | E.g. some clouds might expose Glare, some might not | 16:18 |
| markvoelker | Adoption is a pretty key thing for DefCore as it ends up influencing multiple criteria (e.g. widely deployed, used by clients, used by tools, etc) | 16:19 |
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| alaski | and other things we might be able to test | 17:06 |
| mriedem | what did you have in mind for the grenade test? | 17:06 |
| mriedem | i know running that nova-manage command was part of it | 17:06 |
| mriedem | but do we need to seed some data in n-1 | 17:06 |
| alaski | yes | 17:06 |
| alaski | it would be good to test the migration of instances to a cell | 17:07 |
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| mriedem | do we need grenade for that? | 17:07 |
| dansmith | alaski: you just mean data in the database when we run the upgrade? | 17:07 |
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| alaski | right now no, but my work right now will get us to where instances are always booted into a cell | 17:08 |
| alaski | dansmith: yes | 17:08 |
| dansmith | alaski: I think we'll get that for free | 17:08 |
| dansmith | alaski: the grenade job now ends up with instances in the db created in n-1, and then we upgrade and make sure the instances are okay | 17:08 |
| dansmith | alaski: so if we merge things to do that cell assignment, we'll be testing that, no? | 17:08 |
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| alaski | there's a nova-manage command already merged to do that work | 17:09 |
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| dansmith | a separate command? | 17:09 |
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| dansmith | i.e. something other than 'nova db online_data_migrations ? | 17:09 |
| dansmith | er, nova-manage | 17:10 |
| alaski | dansmith: instances aren't going to migrated into a cell online. at least there's no current plan for it | 17:10 |
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| doffm | dansmith: Yes a separate command. | 17:10 |
| dansmith | okay, I'm confused | 17:10 |
| dansmith | all you need to do is add InstanceMappings for the existing instances, right? | 17:10 |
| alaski | yes | 17:10 |
| doffm | Yes | 17:10 |
| dansmith | so why is that not just like our other online migrations? | 17:11 |
| alaski | there's a nova-manage command to create a cell, which just means create a CellMapping | 17:11 |
| dansmith | right | 17:11 |
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| alaski | and when it does that it looks at the db of the cell and maps the instances | 17:11 |
| dansmith | oh | 17:11 |
| alaski | and the hosts | 17:11 |
| melwitt | it maps hosts only, not instances | 17:11 |
| alaski | oh | 17:11 |
| melwitt | there's a different command that was already there that maps instances. but I haven't tried it and didn't see any testing for it | 17:12 |
| alaski | okay. I was misremembering | 17:12 |
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| dansmith | hrm | 17:12 |
| doffm | We need to add host and instance migration to devstack. I don't think we need to do anything to n-1 to get grenade to test it. | 17:13 |
| alaski | dansmith: what makes me nervous about using the migration framework is it would be nice to specify the cell to migrate to | 17:13 |
| dansmith | so the hosts one processes all hosts in one batch? | 17:13 |
| anteaya | meetbot is back | 17:13 |
| alaski | anteaya: thanks | 17:13 |
| alaski | #startmeeting nova_cells | 17:13 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 30 17:13:15 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alaski. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:13 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:13 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_cells' | 17:13 |
| anteaya | welcome | 17:13 |
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| dansmith | alaski: so in the non-cells case, we don't need to worry about cell assignment, because it's clear which one to assign right? | 17:14 |
| alaski | dansmith: yes, looks like it https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270565/12/nova/cmd/manage.py | 17:14 |
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| melwitt | the instance mapping one is https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/cmd/manage.py#L1319 IIUC | 17:14 |
| dansmith | I guess in the cellsv2 migration case I'd expect we run that in each existing cell which would make it clear which one instances should be assigned to | 17:14 |
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| alaski | dansmith: right for non-cells | 17:14 |
| dansmith | that instance one takes a marker, but it should just take a limit and operate on any non-mapped instances, right? | 17:15 |
| dansmith | taking a marker is just terrible UX I think | 17:15 |
| mriedem | that map_instances command is pretty old | 17:16 |
| alaski | you'd have to compare two dbs to find the unmapped instances | 17:16 |
| alaski | which is fine, just a bit more work | 17:17 |
| dansmith | it just seems terrible to me to make them retain the marker.. much harder to script | 17:17 |
| dansmith | and | 17:17 |
| dansmith | I would think it'd be susceptible to drift as the process could take a while | 17:17 |
| dansmith | so anyway, that aside, | 17:17 |
| alaski | the sort order and key was picked to avoid that | 17:17 |
| dansmith | I guess it seems to me like creating the cell records and probably the host mapping can/should happen syncrhonously and separately, | 17:18 |
| alaski | but we could definitely make that better | 17:18 |
| bauzas | for testing, we don't need to set the marker, so I guess it's okay | 17:18 |
| dansmith | but the instance mapping thing seems like it can very well be an online migration that does small batches at a time, along with everything else | 17:18 |
| doffm | Online migration would need a 'default' cell to be operating on. | 17:19 |
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| doffm | Not sure how it would work for the cellsv1 upgrade case. | 17:19 |
| dansmith | alaski: the marker works for a proper sort order, but assuming we have soft-deleted instances | 17:19 |
| dansmith | which we do, so I guess we're okay, it just seems odd | 17:19 |
| dansmith | the ansible/puppet people will hate that | 17:19 |
| alaski | that's fair | 17:19 |
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| alaski | so I think for the instancemapping migration there's some info needed in each case | 17:20 |
| alaski | you need to know the api db, and which cell you're in | 17:20 |
| dansmith | and yes, do doffm's point, we'd need some way to know what cell we need to put things in | 17:20 |
| dansmith | yeah | 17:20 |
| dansmith | if the hosts are already mapped, we could figure it out right? | 17:20 |
| dansmith | pick our first host, figure out what cell it claims to be in in the api db, | 17:20 |
| dansmith | and then roll with that? | 17:20 |
| doffm | Ummm yeah. I think that works. | 17:21 |
| dansmith | and/or make sure all your hosts are in the same cell and if so, use that cell, else error | 17:21 |
| alaski | yeah, that should work | 17:21 |
| doffm | Migration might be a pain. | 17:21 |
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| alaski | it's worth a shot. I want to think on it a bit more, and it would help to see it | 17:22 |
| dansmith | for the non-cells case, | 17:22 |
| dansmith | I think it's important that we build as much into the generic command as possible | 17:23 |
| dansmith | because it's what people are going to be (or are) encoding into scripts and such | 17:23 |
| dansmith | and it's in devstack now, which means we get it for free | 17:23 |
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| alaski | it does impose an ordering requirement | 17:24 |
| dansmith | meaning you have to have created the cell records first, yes | 17:24 |
| alaski | you have to create a cell before doing online migrations | 17:24 |
| alaski | yeah | 17:24 |
| dansmith | but you have to unless you do it all in one command anyway | 17:24 |
| alaski | and if you don't you need to rerun the data migrations | 17:24 |
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| alaski | okay, seems like a good approach | 17:25 |
| bauzas | given all the commands, I guess writing a scenario for the non-cells case could be the best opt ? | 17:26 |
| bauzas | or one single command to rule'em all, either | 17:26 |
| doffm | Writing some scenarios with example commands would be a good idea. | 17:26 |
| doffm | So we can agree that the command sequence is acceptable. | 17:26 |
| bauzas | I'm a bit concerned by the learning curve, given the yells I already had for the api db | 17:27 |
| bauzas | the cell0 thing could be also something scaring people ;p | 17:27 |
| dansmith | well, this is not going to be something you don't have to worry about, no matter what we do | 17:27 |
| dansmith | but.. | 17:27 |
| dansmith | we should make it as integrated as possible I think | 17:27 |
| bauzas | so, my take is, either we do that silently and directly, or we comment that | 17:27 |
| dansmith | and it helps to avoid people that don't care about cells thinking they're doing a bunch of cells steps they shouldn't have to do | 17:28 |
| dansmith | if it's integrated with the other processes, it looks like just nova stuff | 17:28 |
| bauzas | yeah that's my approach saying "if you don't care with cells, okay, just issue this magical command" | 17:28 |
| doffm | Cell0 should be a non worrying implementation detail if we get it right. | 17:28 |
| dansmith | bauzas: well, we still have to have them create the initial cell record stuff somehow | 17:29 |
| alaski | does someone want to write this all up somewhere? | 17:29 |
| alaski | some example scenarios and commands | 17:29 |
| bauzas | I could | 17:29 |
| doffm | I can write up a couple of options. | 17:30 |
| doffm | Or bauzas :) | 17:30 |
| bauzas | given I'm the one who asks for :p | 17:30 |
| alaski | #action bauzas write up some cell migration scenarios and commands used | 17:30 |
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| bauzas | that said, I can just upload a placeholder doc saying "WRITE YOUR SCENARIO THERE ===>" and leave others using the nice Gerrit UI that I like (and that I'm conscious being in minority :p ) | 17:30 |
| alaski | bauzas: I think throwing up a review would be great | 17:31 |
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| alaski | I like the gerrit UI as well, now that it doesn't jump on me | 17:31 |
| mriedem | we already have one? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267153/ | 17:32 |
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| alaski | once we have an agreed upon set of commands we can work to get devstack/grenade using and testing that | 17:32 |
| mriedem | when do you online migrate the instance? when we first pull it from the db? | 17:32 |
| alaski | mriedem: sure, we can throw it in there if that's what works | 17:32 |
| mriedem | assuming the instance's host is already mapped to a cell | 17:33 |
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| alaski | so far we've just talked about doing it with the nova-manage run-online-migrations thing | 17:33 |
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| alaski | we can look at doing it on instance access as well | 17:34 |
| bauzas | mriedem: that's something I can rebase | 17:34 |
| bauzas | (talking of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267153/1/doc/source/cells.rst) | 17:34 |
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| mriedem | are cell mappings created manually then? | 17:35 |
| alaski | mriedem: yes | 17:35 |
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| mriedem | which is the map_cell_and_hosts cli right? | 17:35 |
| bauzas | yeah | 17:35 |
| alaski | right | 17:35 |
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| mriedem | ok | 17:35 |
| bauzas | doing the migrations is one thing, mapping the hosts is another thing | 17:35 |
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| mriedem | was just thinking if we could do something on n-cpu startup, but we don't have the transport_url | 17:36 |
| mriedem | anyway, i will shut up now | 17:37 |
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| alaski | we'd have to put cell info somewhere for that to work | 17:37 |
| alaski | which cell it should be in I mean | 17:38 |
| mriedem | yeah | 17:38 |
| mriedem | was just thinking of the single cell case | 17:38 |
| mriedem | or migrating from no cells | 17:38 |
| alaski | I guess we could get fancy, but at some point something has to make an entry saying there's now a cell with name 'foo' and db x and mq y | 17:39 |
| bauzas | we could do crazy pants and use other things for describing how to shard your cloud, like aggregates | 17:39 |
| bauzas | but that's a foolish idea | 17:40 |
| mriedem | regions! | 17:40 |
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| * alaski facepalms | 17:40 | |
| alaski | moving on, we have a next step here | 17:40 |
| * bauzas fullbodypalms | 17:40 | |
| alaski | #topic open reviews | 17:40 |
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| alaski | new link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-nova-priorities-tracking | 17:40 |
| alaski | I added some patches there | 17:41 |
| alaski | please add your patches as they go up | 17:41 |
| alaski | and please review patches in there | 17:41 |
| melwitt | I added the mq switching spec | 17:41 |
| alaski | awesome | 17:41 |
| doffm | I guess since it was cleared I didn't put the cell0 patches up. Will now. | 17:41 |
| mriedem | flavors....where are we on the create one? | 17:41 |
| bauzas | alaski: ohay, awesome | 17:41 |
| bauzas | yeah, there is a -2 that confused me | 17:41 |
| doffm | Are we reviewing past the -2? for flavors. | 17:41 |
| bauzas | I thought we were having this because postgre ? | 17:41 |
| alaski | bauzas: the -2 is because we want to merge the series as one step | 17:42 |
| alaski | so we approve everything behind it, then that one | 17:42 |
| doffm | Ahh. Ok. | 17:42 |
| alaski | bauzas: the postgres issue seems to be fixed | 17:42 |
| bauzas | alaski: okay, because we fear to miss some changes left in the road ? | 17:42 |
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| mriedem | alaski: you're -WIP on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/298455/ also | 17:42 |
| mriedem | i'm avoiding WIP things from the etherpad really | 17:42 |
| bauzas | alaski: that's a point I asked dansmith in the review, I feel he found the pony | 17:42 |
| alaski | mriedem: yeah, I'm afraid I might need to add more attributes for scheduling. I'm working ahead to determine that | 17:43 |
| alaski | it's reviewable, but I may want to add more later | 17:43 |
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| bauzas | alaski: that's next in my pipe, could I still review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/298455/ ? | 17:44 |
| alaski | bauzas: there's a block on flavor.create in that series until some work from a later patch happens. so we don't want to merge the block without a way to unblock | 17:44 |
| bauzas | alaski: the t.n.m thing ? | 17:45 |
| dansmith | doffm: yeah, please do review | 17:45 |
| dansmith | doffm: just holding so we have the full stack +Ad before we let it go | 17:45 |
| mriedem | so we should really review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/295310/ for the flavors series then right? | 17:45 |
| bauzas | oops, I meant the n.t.unit.db thing | 17:45 |
| dansmith | mriedem: yes, everything in that set | 17:45 |
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| bauzas | dansmith: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296106/10 could be left off the series | 17:46 |
| alaski | bauzas: basically we want https://review.openstack.org/#/c/295310/ at the same time as the bottom one in that series | 17:46 |
| bauzas | dansmith: it's not requiring something in the series right? | 17:46 |
| mriedem | bauzas: it's trivial cleanup, seems fine to leave it in | 17:46 |
| mriedem | and it's already approved | 17:46 |
| bauzas | dansmith: gotcha | 17:46 |
| dansmith | bauzas: I know, I saw your comment, I just didn't want to rearrange things and risk breakage | 17:46 |
| dansmith | I think it's fine, but it shouldn't matter | 17:47 |
| bauzas | dansmith: mriedem: okay, I'm fine with that, given the -2 that would unblock all the things | 17:47 |
| dansmith | if I have to respin again i can check, but... | 17:47 |
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| bauzas | we just need to make sure the gate is in a nice shape :) | 17:47 |
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| bauzas | before unblocking the series :p | 17:47 |
| dansmith | even if it's not, the risk window is very small | 17:47 |
| dansmith | I think it's fine | 17:47 |
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| mriedem | yeah i don't think anyone is going to CD nova in between when the bottom and top are merged | 17:48 |
| alaski | +1 | 17:48 |
| mriedem | and if they do, kudos to them | 17:48 |
| melwitt | hehe | 17:48 |
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| dansmith | even if they do, it's not the end of the world | 17:48 |
| dansmith | they'd basically have to be CDing a completely stock build with all the default flavors | 17:49 |
| dansmith | probably not very likely :) | 17:49 |
| mriedem | but but but my telco customer really needs this fancy new flavor today | 17:49 |
| dansmith | and even then, there is cleanup they could do easily | 17:49 |
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| mriedem | alright, i'll focus on that one this afternoon then | 17:50 |
| alaski | I'd like to get an opinion on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/298455 | 17:50 |
| alaski | I WIPed because though that satisfies the API reqs of Instance, it may not satisfy the scheduler/compute reqas | 17:50 |
| alaski | *reqs | 17:50 |
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| alaski | so further updates may be needed | 17:50 |
| alaski | do people care about getting everything at once, or just update again if necessary? | 17:51 |
| alaski | or just go whole hog and copy much of instance into buildreq and be done with it? | 17:51 |
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| dansmith | is it just multiple updates or might something break? | 17:51 |
| melwitt | I thought it would be fine to update again if needed. but that's just me | 17:51 |
| alaski | multiple updates | 17:51 |
| dansmith | I'll look after | 17:52 |
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| bauzas | alaski: well, it sounds boiling the ocean, right? | 17:52 |
| alaski | okay. I'll un WIP and just proceed | 17:52 |
| mriedem | sucks that we're duplicating, | 17:52 |
| mriedem | would be nice if we could just copy the instances schema and whitelist any columns that need special care | 17:53 |
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| mriedem | but it's kind of too late for that now it seems | 17:53 |
| dansmith | so | 17:53 |
| dansmith | it seems weird that we're adding those things as columns | 17:53 |
| bauzas | mriedem: the BuildRequest object is aimed to be transitory | 17:53 |
| dansmith | we don't need to query based on them right? | 17:53 |
| dansmith | could we take an instance, cut out the crap we don't care about and store it serialized? | 17:54 |
| alaski | dansmith: it's only ever queried by uuid, or project_id | 17:54 |
| dansmith | alaski: yeah, so feels strange to need these to be all columns, and then more columns when you find more stuff you want | 17:54 |
| dansmith | I dunno | 17:54 |
| doffm | Do we create an instance object before the the build request to serialize it? | 17:54 |
| mriedem | i like the serialized instance idea | 17:54 |
| bauzas | doffm: yup, IIRC | 17:54 |
| alaski | doffm: we don't, but we could | 17:55 |
| dansmith | doffm: you can just create an instance, put shit in it, and then serialize, you don't need to create in the db | 17:55 |
| doffm | OK. | 17:55 |
| dansmith | like, you don't need to call Instance.create() on it first | 17:55 |
| bauzas | alaski: aren't we ? I thought we were creating the BuildReq object at the same time than the ReqSpec obj | 17:55 |
| mriedem | yeah... https://review.openstack.org/#/c/298455/2/nova/compute/api.py@1021 | 17:55 |
| alaski | bauzas: req_spec->build_req->instance | 17:55 |
| alaski | but all in the same place right now | 17:55 |
| dansmith | hmm | 17:56 |
| bauzas | oh yeah I see | 17:56 |
| dansmith | all three with overlapping data right/ | 17:56 |
| mriedem | L1016 we have the instance | 17:56 |
| bauzas | that's really just an implem detail for me | 17:56 |
| alaski | dansmith: build_req and req_spec don't overlap | 17:56 |
| bauzas | I mean, it seems to be fine to modify this if needed | 17:56 |
| alaski | build_req contains a req_spec | 17:56 |
| dansmith | alaski: okay | 17:56 |
| bauzas | build_req extends req_spec | 17:57 |
| dansmith | I must be missing why we need to do this | 17:57 |
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| dansmith | surely seems like we could just create the instance object as we go, with things we know, | 17:57 |
| dansmith | serialize it in the request, and then later call .create() on it when we know where it goes | 17:57 |
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| alaski | that will work for now | 17:58 |
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| dansmith | but not later? or ...? | 17:58 |
| alaski | I ultimately wanted to move more towards breaking out better units of things, and not rely on the current instance model | 17:59 |
| dansmith | okay | 17:59 |
| alaski | like properly model things the scheduler needs, things compute needs, etc... | 17:59 |
| dansmith | okay, well, | 17:59 |
| alaski | but, that doesn't need to get tangled up here | 17:59 |
| mriedem | we have 1 minute... | 17:59 |
| dansmith | I guess I'm just worried we'll end up with basically the same thing as the instances table here if we store these per column and have to add something everytime we get a new thing | 17:59 |
| alaski | dansmith: yeah | 18:00 |
| alaski | let's hop back to -nova | 18:00 |
| alaski | thanks all! | 18:00 |
| alaski | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 30 18:00:30 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2016/nova_cells.2016-03-30-17.13.html | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2016/nova_cells.2016-03-30-17.13.txt | 18:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2016/nova_cells.2016-03-30-17.13.log.html | 18:00 |
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| sc68cal | hey all | 18:29 |
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| sc68cal | #startmeeting networking_fwaas | 18:30 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 30 18:30:17 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sc68cal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:30 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:30 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_fwaas' | 18:30 |
| sc68cal | #chair SridarK | 18:30 |
| openstack | Current chairs: SridarK sc68cal | 18:30 |
| SridarK | Hi All | 18:30 |
| sc68cal | #chair xgerman | 18:30 |
| openstack | Current chairs: SridarK sc68cal xgerman | 18:30 |
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| sc68cal | The status for me - pretty much the same. Haven't been able to focus on fwaas. I fear it's become the new normal | 18:31 |
| SridarK | Some quick updates on Observer Hierarchy | 18:32 |
| SridarK | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/278863/ | 18:33 |
| SridarK | I have been working with the submitter | 18:33 |
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| SridarK | i have some comments but i think we are making progress | 18:33 |
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| SridarK | we may need to do some rework on how we handle the notifications | 18:34 |
| sc68cal | perfect. getting that work done would be very good, since we can decouple from the neutron l3 agent | 18:34 |
| SridarK | I think we will continue to push to get this in next couple of weeks | 18:35 |
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| sc68cal | excellent | 18:35 |
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| SridarK | Some other updates on vendor decomp | 18:36 |
| SridarK | vArmour - the prime contact is out and said he will reach out next week for a discussion | 18:36 |
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| SridarK | vyatta - in conversation - dont have a final thing to report back | 18:37 |
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| sc68cal | SridarK: thank you for reaching out to these groups | 18:38 |
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| SridarK | cisco - we can get it out - as we have already moved out the L3 implementation - so this is not a problem - we will target by N2 just to make sure if any documentation is needed | 18:38 |
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| SridarK | sc68cal: no worries - so we should be cleaned up | 18:38 |
| SridarK | this cycle | 18:38 |
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| sc68cal | I suppose what concerns me is the fact that we don't know off the top of our heads what the status of these drivers are, by their respective companies | 18:38 |
| sc68cal | we are basically the maintainers of code that may or may not be a priority for any of these companies | 18:39 |
| SridarK | sc68cal: yes agreed - it is likely that there is some outside implementation existing as well | 18:39 |
| sc68cal | We're all in agreement that the v1 API and driver API is not going to undergo any change, perhaps ever again | 18:39 |
| SridarK | sc68cal: yes | 18:40 |
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| sc68cal | so sure, people can develop drivers for it, we'll honor that contract | 18:40 |
| SridarK | +1 | 18:40 |
| sc68cal | but these drivers in our tree - can be moved into big tent repos that each company has, or could have | 18:40 |
| xgerman | +1 | 18:40 |
| sc68cal | and they can control their own destiny | 18:40 |
| SridarK | +1 it is much easier from the vendor perspective too | 18:41 |
| sc68cal | anything else to discuss? | 18:42 |
| xgerman | design sessions? | 18:43 |
| xgerman | should we ask for one and if so how (other than the ether pad) | 18:43 |
| SridarK | i think the session or discussion regarding iptables that xgerman: added would be good | 18:44 |
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| SridarK | xgerman: good u added that given that having a clean i/f and not stepping other features is imp | 18:45 |
| xgerman | yeah, I got some pushback to rather use the ML | 18:45 |
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| xgerman | but will try to work our contacts | 18:45 |
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| SridarK | yes agreed - a quick whiteboard discussion could be fruitful for mickeys | 18:46 |
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| sc68cal | If we need design summit sessions, is armax who to contact? | 18:47 |
| xgerman | yes | 18:48 |
| xgerman | unless he delegated that -- | 18:48 |
| xgerman | we can also ask dougwig to lobby own our behalf | 18:48 |
| sc68cal | ok. Let's try and give them a firm idea of what we need quickly so we don't make them scramble | 18:49 |
| SridarK | my sense is that we may need some fwaas specific discussions across the contributors anyways | 18:49 |
| SridarK | from the broader audience - perhaps iptables interactions is the key thing | 18:49 |
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| SridarK | Also while on this, what needs to be done with the v2 spec - do we just carry that forward | 18:50 |
| SridarK | i mean in terms of approvals etc | 18:50 |
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| xgerman | yeah, I think we carry forward | 18:51 |
| SridarK | ok | 18:51 |
| xgerman | unless we learn new things at the summit which would make us change it | 18:52 |
| xgerman | there might be some new projects we can leverage… though I doubt it | 18:52 |
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| SridarK | ok may be we can freeze on what we have and keep that as the target for N | 18:53 |
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| xgerman | that makes sense | 18:55 |
| mickeys | +1 | 18:55 |
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| sc68cal | I have to head out in a couple minutes | 18:57 |
| xgerman | ok, I think we are done anyway | 18:57 |
| SridarK | yes i did not have much more to add either | 18:57 |
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| xgerman | #endmeeting | 18:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 30 18:58:06 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:58 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2016/networking_fwaas.2016-03-30-18.30.html | 18:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2016/networking_fwaas.2016-03-30-18.30.txt | 18:58 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2016/networking_fwaas.2016-03-30-18.30.log.html | 18:58 |
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| xgerman | thanks | 18:58 |
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| SridarK | Thanks and Bye all | 18:58 |
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| robcresswell | #startmeeting horizon | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 30 20:00:00 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is robcresswell. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 20:00 |
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| david-lyle | o/ | 20:00 |
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| hurgleburgler | o/ | 20:00 |
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| bpokorny | o/ | 20:01 |
| robcresswell | Gooood evening | 20:01 |
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| david-lyle | packed house | 20:01 |
| hurgleburgler | lol | 20:01 |
| robcresswell | I've scared everyone off | 20:02 |
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| dani_castellanos | o/ | 20:02 |
| hurgleburgler | you should definitely take it personally ;) | 20:02 |
| robcresswell | haha | 20:02 |
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| robcresswell | #topic Notices | 20:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Notices (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:02 | |
| hurgleburgler | although, people might still think its the driver meeting too | 20:02 |
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| robcresswell | Few things to work through. First up: check the topic proposals for the Newton summit | 20:02 |
| robcresswell | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/horizon-newton-summit | 20:03 |
| robcresswell | Add your topics/points/+1s | 20:03 |
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| robcresswell | Make sure to add your name/IRC tag too, so we know who's saying things. | 20:03 |
| robcresswell | Second item is Mitaka RC2, which I think david-lyle wanted to talk about | 20:04 |
| david-lyle | you're all dead to me | 20:04 |
| david-lyle | no wait | 20:04 |
| david-lyle | there were two patches other than translation for RC-2 | 20:04 |
| david-lyle | one landed | 20:05 |
| david-lyle | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/298940/ | 20:05 |
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| david-lyle | the other hit yet another npm-lint job failure | 20:05 |
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| david-lyle | https://review.openstack.org/297326 | 20:06 |
| robcresswell | npm jobs have been really unstable recently :/ | 20:06 |
| david-lyle | https://review.openstack.org/295428 didn't really meet the RC-2 criteria | 20:06 |
| david-lyle | the last remaining question is, is the new launch instance ready to be the default | 20:07 |
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| david-lyle | opinions? | 20:07 |
| robcresswell | I think the polling issue was the last big flaw | 20:07 |
| itxaka | o/ | 20:07 |
| robcresswell | Someone reported an issue with the certain images not being displayed | 20:08 |
| robcresswell | Been unable to verify it | 20:08 |
| david-lyle | otherwise, we'll publish an RC-2 tomorrow | 20:09 |
| itxaka | same here, even when throttling I was not able to reproduce robcresswell | 20:09 |
| david-lyle | and barring any catastrophic issues, that will be the final release candidate | 20:09 |
| robcresswell | \o/ | 20:09 |
| itxaka | yay | 20:09 |
| robcresswell | Thanks david-lyle | 20:10 |
| hurgleburgler | woo hoo! | 20:10 |
| robcresswell | Next notice is about bug day | 20:10 |
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| robcresswell | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/090224.html | 20:10 |
| robcresswell | We'll be focusing on triage again, for now, and then push on to fixing all the things soon. | 20:11 |
| david-lyle | yay bug day | 20:11 |
| robcresswell | The bug debt has been steadily climbing for a while now, and shouldnt be let any longer. | 20:12 |
| robcresswell | So we'll triage the list as it is, then monitor any incoming bugs while we work out way through the list | 20:12 |
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| robcresswell | I've marked a lot as Incomplete, so the total will likely drop in about 55 - 60 days when they all moved to Expired. | 20:12 |
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| robcresswell | So yeah, join in, I'll be on IRC working through the bug list all day, and would greatly appreciate the help. | 20:13 |
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| david-lyle | robcresswell: date again? | 20:14 |
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| robcresswell | April 5th. Next Tuesday | 20:14 |
| david-lyle | now it's in the notes :) | 20:15 |
| robcresswell | Will be running it all day, so hop in when you can | 20:15 |
| robcresswell | #info Bug day: April 5th | 20:15 |
| robcresswell | Now there's no excuse. | 20:15 |
| dani_castellanos | is it open to everybody? | 20:15 |
| david-lyle | yes | 20:15 |
| dani_castellanos | cool | 20:15 |
| robcresswell | Yep | 20:16 |
| robcresswell | Its a really good way of seeing the actual issues in Horizon | 20:16 |
| dani_castellanos | I'll be glad to help | 20:16 |
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| robcresswell | Brilliant :) | 20:16 |
| david-lyle | dani_castellanos: all meetings and events are open to all | 20:17 |
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| david-lyle | even if the title makes it sound less so | 20:17 |
| dani_castellanos | got it! | 20:17 |
| robcresswell | Last item - I intend to move the 1200 UTC meeting to 800 UTC unless there is any strong objection. I feel that would be more accessible to those in > UTC + 7 timezones. | 20:17 |
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| robcresswell | Assuming there are available timeslots etc. | 20:18 |
| david-lyle | robcresswell: at that time yes | 20:18 |
| david-lyle | there will be | 20:18 |
| david-lyle | take your pick | 20:18 |
| robcresswell | Thought so, but didn't want to make the assumption. | 20:18 |
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| robcresswell | 1200 already has very low NA attendance anyway; usually just david-lyle is crazy enough to attend | 20:18 |
| robcresswell | But neither time slot if great for contributors from India, China, Australia etc. | 20:19 |
| robcresswell | Any objections? | 20:19 |
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| robcresswell | On to the agenda. | 20:20 |
| robcresswell | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Horizon#Agenda_for_2016-03-30_2000_UTC | 20:21 |
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| robcresswell | #topic Documentation Cross-Project Liaison | 20:21 |
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| robcresswell | So this was me before, but wondering if anyone else would like to manage it for a bit. | 20:22 |
| robcresswell | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons#Documentation | 20:22 |
| david-lyle | robcresswell: I'm not the documentation person, but I can step into cross-project | 20:22 |
| david-lyle | unless you want to keep that | 20:23 |
| robcresswell | Go for it | 20:24 |
| david-lyle | sold | 20:24 |
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| robcresswell | Thats the only agenda item for today | 20:25 |
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| robcresswell | #topic Open Discussion | 20:25 |
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| robcresswell | If anyone has any items to raise, or anything at all they wanted to discuss, go ahead | 20:25 |
| rhagarty_ | sorry for being late... so what are the meeting times going forward? | 20:26 |
| robcresswell | rhagarty_: There'll be something official in an email. For now its 1200UTC and 2000UTC as usual. But 1200 will be moving to an earlier timeslot. | 20:27 |
| rhagarty_ | ok - thanks | 20:28 |
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| tsufiev | Early ending today? | 20:29 |
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| robcresswell | Yeah, doesn't seem like there is much to discuss | 20:30 |
| * tsufiev wonders if it's still post-RC fatigue | 20:30 | |
| robcresswell | Lets call it. Thanks everyone | 20:31 |
| david-lyle | Thanks robcresswell | 20:32 |
| itxaka | thanks all! have a good rest of the day! | 20:32 |
| itxaka | o/ | 20:32 |
| robcresswell | #endmeeting | 20:32 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 30 20:32:04 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:32 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2016/horizon.2016-03-30-20.00.html | 20:32 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2016/horizon.2016-03-30-20.00.txt | 20:32 |
| bpokorny | Thanks! | 20:32 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2016/horizon.2016-03-30-20.00.log.html | 20:32 |
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| dani_castellanos | thanks | 20:32 |
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