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| reedip | hmm | 06:28 |
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| reedip | anyone here ? | 06:28 |
| soichi | hi | 06:28 |
| reedip | hi soichi | 06:29 |
| kaz | hi | 06:29 |
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| reedip | waiting for anil_rao and vnyyad for the meeting... | 06:29 |
| reedip | hi kaz | 06:29 |
| reedip | saw your commit for the Dashboard | 06:29 |
| yamamoto_ | hi | 06:30 |
| reedip | lets wait for 2 more minutes, then we will start.. | 06:30 |
| reedip | hi yamamoto_ | 06:30 |
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| reedip | yamamoto_ : can you chair? | 06:32 |
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| yamamoto_ | i can | 06:32 |
| reedip | I guess we can start now... | 06:33 |
| yamamoto_ | #startmeeting taas | 06:33 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 23 06:33:13 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is yamamoto_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 06:33 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 06:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: taas)" | 06:33 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'taas' | 06:33 |
| yamamoto_ | #topic Agenda | 06:33 |
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| yamamoto_ | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/taas | 06:33 |
| yamamoto_ | #topic Summit planning schedule finalization | 06:33 |
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| yamamoto_ | who added this? is this about taas session? | 06:34 |
| reedip | yamamoto_ yes | 06:34 |
| reedip | I thought that if all the members are present here, we can finalize it quickly | 06:34 |
| reedip | than over the email | 06:35 |
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| yamamoto_ | unfortunately it doesn't seem to be case though. let's use email. | 06:35 |
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| yamamoto_ | #topic Async Calls | 06:36 |
| reedip | Yes, okay, lets skip it | 06:36 |
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| yamamoto_ | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/090088.html | 06:36 |
| reedip | yamamoto_ Anil sent an email | 06:36 |
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| reedip | for the async calls | 06:36 |
| reedip | and I thought we can discuss it here | 06:36 |
| reedip | but, I am not sure now | 06:36 |
| reedip | can we discuss it on the ML itself? | 06:36 |
| yamamoto_ | sure. | 06:37 |
| reedip | okay, moving on then, I guess | 06:37 |
| yamamoto_ | i guess we all agree async stuff is good idea. | 06:37 |
| reedip | yamamoto_ : as per the last meeting, yes definetly | 06:37 |
| reedip | definitely* | 06:37 |
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| yamamoto_ | #topic TaaS Dashboard discussion | 06:37 |
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| reedip | but I think we can also get some input from neutrinoes | 06:37 |
| yamamoto_ | #undo | 06:38 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Topic object at 0x9fb9d50> | 06:38 |
| reedip | okay, next topic ? | 06:38 |
| yamamoto_ | #topic TaaS Dashboard discussion | 06:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "TaaS Dashboard discussion (Meeting topic: taas)" | 06:38 | |
| reedip | so kaz submitted a patch | 06:39 |
| kaz | yes | 06:39 |
| reedip | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/295735/ | 06:39 |
| reedip | kaz, I see that its 403161 Lines long | 06:39 |
| reedip | you copied the entire horizon onto taas? | 06:40 |
| kaz | yes | 06:40 |
| reedip | any reason ? | 06:40 |
| kaz | because we are based on kilo. | 06:40 |
| yamamoto_ | any idea what happened on "Conflicts With" ? | 06:40 |
| reedip | is there any reason for using Kilo and not using Mitaka? | 06:41 |
| reedip | yamamoto_ : Not a clue... that what triggered my thoughts on this patch | 06:41 |
| soichi | The Network Topology view was dramatically changed from Liberty. | 06:41 |
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| reedip | soichi : okay | 06:42 |
| reedip | soichi : so if we are to support TaaS in Newton | 06:42 |
| reedip | soichi: would we request Horizon to be based on Kilo to see the TaaS dashboard? | 06:42 |
| soichi | no | 06:42 |
| reedip | soichi: but if our changes are made on Kilo, wont we have to rework on it again, if we get the inclusion into governance in Newton? | 06:43 |
| soichi | I guess one of the idea is to show the network topoloy view in kilo on the TaaS panel | 06:43 |
| reedip | soichi: I think its a great idea to showcase it in the Summit | 06:43 |
| reedip | soichi: yes, +1 , but I think some users may ask why we are showing the older topology, isnt it? | 06:44 |
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| reedip | soichi: lets work with this implementation , but can we start also to look for integration into Horizon in its M-release version ? | 06:45 |
| soichi | yes, i think some users may have a question. | 06:45 |
| yamamoto_ | soichi: kaz: for some reasons you want to stick with kilo, or it just means not-rebased-yet? | 06:45 |
| soichi | reedip: agree | 06:45 |
| reedip | I mean we can , for now, use the dashboard as it is, and demonstrate it, and get some ideas | 06:46 |
| kaz | not rebased yes. | 06:46 |
| reedip | and then , moving forward, we can use the latest release, rebase most the changes which can be ported, and work out the other nitty gritties in N-Release | 06:46 |
| soichi | reedip: okay | 06:47 |
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| reedip | soichi : great , thats all from my side for the dashboard. Any other points to discuss for the dashboard? | 06:47 |
| yamamoto_ | how long do you think it would take to "rebase" it to master? | 06:48 |
| yamamoto_ | (i have no idea how different horizon kilo vs master) | 06:48 |
| kaz | I am not sure , but it takes a few months. | 06:49 |
| reedip | yamamoto_ : huge , if I am correct | 06:49 |
| reedip | kaz, rebase takes months ? | 06:49 |
| reedip | I think a lot of manual work is required, right | 06:50 |
| reedip | ? | 06:50 |
| yamamoto_ | will it likely be re-implementation rather than a rebase? | 06:50 |
| kaz | we need to see a new source code. | 06:51 |
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| yamamoto_ | ok, i understand it's a major work. | 06:54 |
| yamamoto_ | i guess it's better (at least easier to read) to submit a patch to horizon/kilo rather than having the entire horizon tree. | 06:55 |
| kaz | i see | 06:56 |
| yamamoto_ | let's move on | 06:57 |
| yamamoto_ | #topic Spec Discussion completion | 06:57 |
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| yamamoto_ | i updated the review yesterday | 06:57 |
| reedip | yamamoto_ I didnt see the new spec | 06:58 |
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| yamamoto_ | reflected many of comments and moved some more things to "future work" section to minimize the scope for the first step | 06:58 |
| reedip | yamamoto_ I think you put up some queries for me as well, I will check it out on the weekend/tomorrow and update it with the same | 06:58 |
| yamamoto_ | reedip: thank you | 06:59 |
| reedip | yamamoto_ I would have preferred having the discussion with Anil and Vinay as well, for the points left in the spec which I mailed on the ML. Can we discuss this point as well next week ( I know the list is getting longer for the next week's discussion) | 07:00 |
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| yamamoto_ | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/088645.html | 07:01 |
| yamamoto_ | let's discuss on ML and/or review. | 07:02 |
| yamamoto_ | #topic Open Discussion | 07:03 |
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| reedip | yamamoto_ : nothing much from my end | 07:03 |
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| soichi | i have no additional topic. | 07:03 |
| kaz | me too | 07:04 |
| yamamoto_ | i wanted to ask anil and vnyyad to tweak LP permissions to allow me triage bugs | 07:04 |
| reedip | lets skip this and end the meeting then :) | 07:04 |
| reedip | yamamoto_ I think you can email them | 07:04 |
| reedip | ?? | 07:04 |
| yamamoto_ | i said it here as i think anil said he will read the log :-) | 07:05 |
| yamamoto_ | thank you for attending everyone | 07:05 |
| yamamoto_ | bye | 07:05 |
| yamamoto_ | #endmeeting | 07:05 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 23 07:05:47 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 07:05 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2016/taas.2016-03-23-06.33.html | 07:05 |
| kaz | bye | 07:05 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2016/taas.2016-03-23-06.33.txt | 07:05 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2016/taas.2016-03-23-06.33.log.html | 07:05 |
| vasubabu | bye | 07:05 |
| soichi | bye | 07:05 |
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| ifat_afek | #startmeeting vitrage | 09:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 23 09:01:56 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ifat_afek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 09:01 | |
| ifat_afek | hi everyone | 09:02 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'vitrage' | 09:02 |
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| eyalb | hi all | 09:03 |
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| idan_hefetz | Hi | 09:04 |
| alexey_weyl | Hello | 09:04 |
| emalin | hi hi | 09:04 |
| elisha_r | hey | 09:04 |
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| amir_gur | Hi | 09:05 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Current status | 09:05 |
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| ifat_afek | Ohad and I attended the opnfv hackfest last week, and presented a demo of vitrage that included deduced alarms, deduced states, RCA and Aodh alarms | 09:06 |
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| ifat_afek | . I also showed the static physical plugin configuration, and how to configure our templates | 09:06 |
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| ifat_afek | We got very positive responses, and we will be mentioned as an optional reference implementation for Doctor Inspector component | 09:07 |
| ifat_afek | Thanks for everyone who helped preparing the demo! | 09:07 |
| ifat_afek | Regarding Aodh, the synchronizer still has a few bugs, which I’m about to handle this week | 09:07 |
| alexey_weyl | Thumbs up!!! :) | 09:08 |
| ifat_afek | In addition, it currently supports only threshold alarms and event alarms. I should install Gnocchi and make sure we support also gnocchi alarms. | 09:08 |
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| ifat_afek | Another issue is the round-trip of deduced alarms -> notify aodh -> aodh synchronizer gets the deduced alarms from aodh | 09:08 |
| eyalb_ | hi again | 09:08 |
| ifat_afek | idan_hefetz, can you explain about it? | 09:08 |
| idan_hefetz | sure | 09:08 |
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| idan_hefetz | we need to make sure a deduced alarm, that was created by the evaluator, and later created in aodh (by the notifier). is handled correctly | 09:09 |
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| idan_hefetz | so that we'll need to add the appropiate resource_id to the query | 09:10 |
| ifat_afek | idan_hefetz: ok. and we should identify that this is the same alarm | 09:11 |
| dannoffel | hi | 09:11 |
| idan_hefetz | That's right, from my side (the notifier) i hope to finish this cycle soon | 09:11 |
| ifat_afek | idan_hefetz: cool, thanks | 09:11 |
| ifat_afek | who else wants to update? | 09:12 |
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| eyalb_ | I want to update | 09:12 |
| eyalb_ | I started to work on a neutron plugin | 09:12 |
| eyalb_ | also did some refactoring in the code | 09:12 |
| eyalb_ | mostly cosmetic | 09:13 |
| eyalb_ | thats it | 09:13 |
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| ifat_afek | eyalb_: do you know what information you are going to import from neutron? | 09:14 |
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| eyalb_ | still working on it :-) | 09:14 |
| eyalb_ | it will be very basic in the begining | 09:14 |
| ifat_afek | eyalb_: ok, thanks | 09:14 |
| elisha_r | I'll go next | 09:15 |
| elisha_r | I've started working on installing and configuring nagios as part of our vitrage devstack installation. | 09:15 |
| elisha_r | The goal being to allow devstack users to see how Vitrage can integrate with it | 09:15 |
| elisha_r | I'll be installing this using the OMD package #link http://omdistro.org/ | 09:16 |
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| elisha_r | so far, I was able to do this manually. The main issues are determining the version to install, and that there is an overlap with port 5000 which is what keystone listens on | 09:17 |
| elisha_r | hope to get this done sometime next week. | 09:17 |
| elisha_r | the main thing I'm wondering about is, whether or not doing this, automatically, as part of vitrage makes sense. Nagios can be used in many other projects, so I'm not sure if the vitrage context is the correct one | 09:19 |
| elisha_r | for example, if the vitrage install installs is, should we also assume the uninstall also removes nagios? | 09:19 |
| ifat_afek | elisha_r: that's a good question. I'm also not sure that everyone who uses vitrage will want to use nagios | 09:19 |
| ifat_afek | elisha_r: I don't think we can uninstall nagios... | 09:20 |
| ifat_afek | maybe it should be optional | 09:20 |
| eyalb_ | I think tha we should have a flag in the devstack installation | 09:20 |
| eyalb_ | that | 09:20 |
| ifat_afek | #action elisha_r decide about our approach to nagios installation as part of devstack installation | 09:21 |
| eyalb_ | you can see how other projects install therir packages | 09:21 |
| elisha_r | thats it for me | 09:21 |
| eyalb_ | their | 09:21 |
| ifat_afek | eyalb_: I agree that a flag is a good idea | 09:21 |
| ifat_afek | let's move on, who wants to update? | 09:21 |
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| alexey_weyl | I will update | 09:24 |
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| alexey_weyl | We have Vitrage's internal plugins configuration working, and now we are planning to work on the external pluggins configuration | 09:25 |
| alexey_weyl | in addition we want to be able to handle some more complicated issues with the plugins, such as: | 09:25 |
| alexey_weyl | defining number of transformers for one synchronizers | 09:25 |
| alexey_weyl | and more | 09:26 |
| ifat_afek | alexey_weyl: cool, thanks | 09:27 |
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| ifat_afek | anyone else wants to update? | 09:28 |
| ifat_afek | moving on | 09:31 |
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| ifat_afek | #topic Review action items | 09:31 |
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| ifat_afek | 1. support template validation | 09:31 |
| mkoushnir | Hi | 09:31 |
| lhartal | There is no progress on this issue | 09:32 |
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| lhartal | I will work on it this week | 09:32 |
| ifat_afek | lhartal: ok, thanks | 09:33 |
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| ifat_afek | #action lhartal support template validation | 09:33 |
| ifat_afek | mkoushnir: I see you joined, do you want to update about your status? | 09:33 |
| mkoushnir | yep. I finish work on nova alarms and validations of alarms correctness | 09:35 |
| ifat_afek | mkoushnir: you mean in the templest? | 09:35 |
| mkoushnir | next step - nagios alarms and rca | 09:35 |
| mkoushnir | yes. Tempest api test | 09:36 |
| ifat_afek | mkoushnir: cool! | 09:36 |
| mkoushnir | :) | 09:36 |
| ifat_afek | thanks, let's move on | 09:36 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Next Steps | 09:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Next Steps (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 09:36 | |
| ifat_afek | We should record a new demo with all the existing functionality, and put it in our wiki page | 09:36 |
| ifat_afek | I just want to fix, with lhartal's help, some minor ui issues first | 09:37 |
| ifat_afek | #action record a new demo | 09:37 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Open Discussion | 09:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 09:37 | |
| ifat_afek | anyone wants to talk about anything? | 09:37 |
| ifat_afek | so I guess we are done for today | 09:39 |
| lhartal | bye | 09:39 |
| alexey_weyl | bye bye | 09:39 |
| ifat_afek | bye everyone | 09:40 |
| dannoffel | bye | 09:40 |
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| ifat_afek | #endmeeting | 09:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 09:40 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 23 09:40:27 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:40 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2016/vitrage.2016-03-23-09.01.html | 09:40 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2016/vitrage.2016-03-23-09.01.txt | 09:40 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2016/vitrage.2016-03-23-09.01.log.html | 09:40 |
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| david-lyle_ | #startmeeting Horizon | 12:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 23 12:00:51 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is david-lyle_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 12:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 12:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Horizon)" | 12:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 12:00 |
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| itxaka | o/ | 12:01 |
| tsufiev | o/ | 12:01 |
| tmazur | o/ | 12:01 |
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| robcresswell | \o | 12:02 |
| david-lyle_ | So we had a time mixup on meetings for the past month or so | 12:02 |
| david-lyle_ | This is the correct start time | 12:03 |
| * robcresswell hides in shame | 12:03 | |
| david-lyle_ | This is my last meeting as PTL and will be handing the keys to robcresswell for future meetings | 12:04 |
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| david-lyle_ | We tagged and branched RC-1 Friday | 12:05 |
| david-lyle_ | so master is open for Newton | 12:05 |
| david-lyle_ | #chair robcresswell | 12:05 |
| openstack | Current chairs: david-lyle_ robcresswell | 12:05 |
| david-lyle_ | it's snowing here and the lights just flickered | 12:05 |
| david-lyle_ | if my power goes robcresswell gets and early start :) | 12:06 |
| robcresswell | what a way to go | 12:06 |
| david-lyle_ | does anyone have any bugs they think warrant consideration for RC-2? | 12:06 |
| david-lyle_ | we don't have a milestone yet in launchpad | 12:07 |
| tsufiev | I'd like to propose new Swift UI buttons fixup | 12:07 |
| david-lyle_ | so we'll have to tag such bugs | 12:07 |
| robcresswell | Yeah, agreed tsufiev | 12:07 |
| david-lyle_ | tsufiev: link? | 12:07 |
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| robcresswell | I asked cindy to backport her fix | 12:07 |
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| robcresswell | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/295428/ | 12:07 |
| robcresswell | Its minor, but just addresses a couple of styling oddities which would be a shame to ship in our shiny new UI. | 12:08 |
| robcresswell | low risk too. | 12:08 |
| itxaka | Igor this one, which is tagged newton but I think it should be mitaka | 12:08 |
| tsufiev | david-lyle_, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/294223/ | 12:08 |
| itxaka | https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1560145 | 12:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1560145 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) ""Copy Data" checkbox on Image create has the wrong label" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Daniel Castellanos (luis-daniel-castellanos) | 12:08 |
| david-lyle_ | robcresswell: 295428 is cosmetic ? | 12:09 |
| tsufiev | robcresswell, ah, that's more correct link, thanks | 12:09 |
| robcresswell | david-lyle_: Yeah. Is that a blocker for backports? A few things are weird, like massive cancel buttons. | 12:09 |
| robcresswell | They work, though. | 12:10 |
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| david-lyle_ | robcresswell: not a blocker, but the bar for RC-2 is pretty high | 12:10 |
| david-lyle_ | that one is probably benign enough to be ok | 12:10 |
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| robcresswell | My understanding was no string changes or high risk refactors. | 12:11 |
| david-lyle_ | the one itxaka linked seems like its not ready yet | 12:13 |
| david-lyle_ | robcresswell: probably ok | 12:13 |
| robcresswell | itxaka: Its targeted for Newton because it needs to hit master first and backport. | 12:13 |
| robcresswell | I could add another line for hitting mitaka stabel though | 12:14 |
| robcresswell | but its tagged, so its fine. | 12:14 |
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| david-lyle_ | yeah at this point tags are all we have | 12:15 |
| david-lyle_ | any other RC-2 bugs? | 12:15 |
| robcresswell | Nothing else has jumped out. | 12:15 |
| itxaka | robcresswell, ack! | 12:16 |
| david-lyle_ | moving on | 12:18 |
| david-lyle_ | #topic Next bug day suggestion: 5th April | 12:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Next bug day suggestion: 5th April (Meeting topic: Horizon)" | 12:18 | |
| david-lyle_ | robcresswell: o/ | 12:18 |
| robcresswell | I'd like to continue doing bug days roughly once per month. We still have a decent backlog of bugs that need to be triaged. | 12:19 |
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| robcresswell | Next date proposal is April 5th (Tuesday) | 12:19 |
| david-lyle_ | sounds good to me | 12:19 |
| robcresswell | Cool. I'll send out an email later today. Any questions? | 12:20 |
| david-lyle_ | seems there is overwhelming support ;-) | 12:20 |
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| tsufiev | robcresswell, yeah, I have a related question/suggestion | 12:20 |
| robcresswell | tsufiev: fire away | 12:20 |
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| tsufiev | there are a lot of bugfixes that are overlooked in favor of hotter Angular features/fixes... it would be nice if we established a regular communication regarding these fixes | 12:21 |
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| robcresswell | I agree. Personally I see the first step as organising and categorising our list of bugs and bps so we can see the important ones, rather than letting them sit as Undecided, when they might be very serious issues. | 12:22 |
| tsufiev | for example, many Django patches are in unclear situation - I feel that many cores are simply don't think these patches are worth reviewing (too much efforts) | 12:22 |
| tsufiev | we need to communicate this to patch authors | 12:22 |
| tsufiev | to set their expectations | 12:22 |
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| robcresswell | Any ideas? I'd imagine having your bug set to Low or Wishlist might be a hint :) | 12:23 |
| david-lyle_ | tsufiev: can you give an example of a high or so bug that has failed to get reviews? | 12:24 |
| david-lyle_ | we are drowning in medium and low | 12:25 |
| robcresswell | I should add its also *very* difficult to categorise all the bugs alone, so priority is overly subjective. My values will not be the same as others for example. | 12:26 |
| robcresswell | I feel if we get a list sorted, we can start working down from Critical to Low, and use the bug days for fixing, not triage work. | 12:26 |
| robcresswell | But thats where we are right now :) | 12:26 |
| david-lyle_ | sounds like a good plan to me | 12:27 |
| tsufiev | david-lyle_, do not have an example of High bug right now out of my head | 12:27 |
| tsufiev | I think that most of them are Medium/Low | 12:28 |
| tsufiev | still... that doesn't IMO mean that they should be ignored forever :) | 12:28 |
| david-lyle_ | tsufiev: my only point is that the input to the review funnel is greatly over the review capacity at the other end of the funnel | 12:28 |
| david-lyle_ | things will be lost | 12:28 |
| tsufiev | david-lyle_, completely agree | 12:28 |
| robcresswell | tsufiev: If you want to, you can use something like this http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/horizon-openreviews.html | 12:29 |
| david-lyle_ | but I totally agree that new feature dev often gets priority over fixing real issues | 12:29 |
| david-lyle_ | making new issues just happens to be more fun, I guess | 12:29 |
| robcresswell | That shows the reviews that have been sitting for a long time without negative review. | 12:29 |
| david-lyle_ | we can try to more tightly control new feature dev, but people will still work on their pets and in the end we have no real control over what anyone works on other than ourselves | 12:31 |
| david-lyle_ | unless you want to get more active in core cycling for looking at the wrong things | 12:31 |
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| david-lyle_ | moving on | 12:33 |
| david-lyle_ | #topic Broadcasting summit working sessions? | 12:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Broadcasting summit working sessions? (Meeting topic: Horizon)" | 12:33 | |
| david-lyle_ | robcresswell: o/ | 12:33 |
| tsufiev | broadcasting = recording? | 12:33 |
| robcresswell | I've mentioned this before, but wanted to revisit, since some orgs seem to be scaling back on summit attendance | 12:33 |
| david-lyle_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/horizon-newton-summit | 12:34 |
| robcresswell | I'd quite like to try doing something like a hangouts on air with summit sessions, so that people can listen to discussions | 12:34 |
| robcresswell | and potentially feed back via IRC or similar. | 12:34 |
| david-lyle_ | there is chat in the etherpads | 12:34 |
| robcresswell | Some people have mentioned feeling uncomfortable with this though | 12:35 |
| robcresswell | That too | 12:35 |
| tsufiev | +1, would be great to attend summit at least remotely ) | 12:35 |
| robcresswell | Issues also around the technical side (not being able to hear clearly) | 12:35 |
| david-lyle_ | I've voiced my concerns before | 12:35 |
| david-lyle_ | roundtable meetings are terrible for remote participants | 12:36 |
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| robcresswell | The other alternative is to make sure we're documenting discussion better | 12:36 |
| robcresswell | But I do have some concerns around members of the community missing out | 12:37 |
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| robcresswell | Maybe it would be better if people spent more on dev travel and less on booth swag... *grumbles* | 12:37 |
| david-lyle_ | you either need actual room mics, or everyone will have to have hangouts open | 12:37 |
| robcresswell | Do telepresence style mics not work for this kind of discussion? | 12:38 |
| david-lyle_ | sure, but the rooms aren't equipped with those | 12:38 |
| david-lyle_ | the work rooms have 0 mics | 12:38 |
| david-lyle_ | directional or non-directional | 12:38 |
| robcresswell | Right, but not having a mic is a a pretty solvable issue. | 12:39 |
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| david-lyle_ | a mic is insufficient | 12:39 |
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| david-lyle_ | anyway, if someone wants to try, more power to them | 12:40 |
| robcresswell | Okay, so we'll need something more elaborate, and thus impractical. Hmm. I'll investigate more. | 12:40 |
| david-lyle_ | just realize on the receiving end frustration is likely | 12:40 |
| robcresswell | If hardware was solved, would anyone have other issues? | 12:40 |
| david-lyle_ | which is my main concern | 12:40 |
| david-lyle_ | you go to all this effort and it's still not consumable | 12:41 |
| * david-lyle_ lets it go | 12:41 | |
| david-lyle_ | #topic open discussion | 12:42 |
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| robcresswell | I'm taking the silence as no other issues :) | 12:42 |
| itxaka | +1 from me, seems nice for those that can't attend like me | 12:42 |
| robcresswell | itxaka: \o/ | 12:42 |
| robcresswell | I wanted to discuss this meeting time slow (1200UTC) | 12:43 |
| robcresswell | time slot* | 12:43 |
| robcresswell | It seems like it doesnt really benefit anyone. Its too early for those in NA, and too last for those in East Asia/ Australia | 12:43 |
| robcresswell | We could likely shift it to 8/9 UTC, could we not? | 12:43 |
| tsufiev | ... Europe is happy though :) | 12:44 |
| tsufiev | 9 UTC is also fine | 12:44 |
| robcresswell | ha, but we could do 8/9 with no issues really. Everyone but me is UTC +1 or +2 | 12:44 |
| david-lyle_ | gets rid of pesky NA | 12:44 |
| tsufiev | david-lyle_, so you could sleep well during that time ;) | 12:45 |
| robcresswell | You're the only person who regularly attends from NA I think. Sometimes doug-fish too. | 12:45 |
| itxaka | sounds good from belgium time, better times for lunch are always welcome :D | 12:45 |
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| david-lyle_ | my only concern is you have 7 active cores in NA | 12:46 |
| tsufiev | itxaka, I thought you're in Spain :o? | 12:46 |
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| david-lyle_ | you have 4 outside | 12:46 |
| itxaka | tsufiev, born in spain, living in belgium, heart in the world :) | 12:46 |
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| robcresswell | This is true, but I'm concerned that we're missing out on contributors. There are regularly questions on IRC being posted into the void during east asia work hours. | 12:47 |
| tsufiev | itxaka, got it, I learn something new every day here :) | 12:47 |
| david-lyle_ | depends on your intent for the meeting, but sure | 12:47 |
| david-lyle_ | up to you | 12:47 |
| robcresswell | david-lyle_: And as I said, nobody comes to the 1200 UTC meeting anyway from NA, so we'd only miss out on yourself. The 2000UTC meeting would still stand. | 12:47 |
| david-lyle_ | robcresswell: true | 12:47 |
| david-lyle_ | I never said I did anything right ;-) | 12:48 |
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| robcresswell | haha | 12:48 |
| robcresswell | I'll send out an email | 12:48 |
| robcresswell | *TODO list growing* | 12:48 |
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| robcresswell | Last item I had: I'd like to bring back the Drivers meeting. Early Newton is the best time for blueprint discussion. | 12:49 |
| wangbo | It's better update it in http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/ | 12:49 |
| robcresswell | wangbo: Yes, but the email is for others to chime in. I'm not dictating a meeting time until everyone has had a fair chance to discuss it. | 12:50 |
| robcresswell | After that I'll update infra, naturally :) | 12:50 |
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| wangbo | sure | 12:50 |
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| david-lyle_ | any other topics? | 12:51 |
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| robcresswell | I'll run Drivers from next week btw, unless you want to run it tonight david-lyle_ :) | 12:53 |
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| david-lyle_ | robcresswell: all yours | 12:53 |
| robcresswell | Sure | 12:54 |
| david-lyle_ | I just want to say congratulations to robcresswell on being the Horizon PTL for Newton. The community and I personally thank you. | 12:54 |
| david-lyle_ | let all of us know what we can do to help | 12:54 |
| robcresswell | Heh. We should be thanking you for being an excellent PTL for the past 2.5 years. | 12:54 |
| david-lyle_ | alright let's call it | 12:55 |
| david-lyle_ | #endmeeting | 12:55 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 23 12:55:44 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 12:55 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2016/horizon.2016-03-23-12.00.html | 12:55 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2016/horizon.2016-03-23-12.00.txt | 12:55 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2016/horizon.2016-03-23-12.00.log.html | 12:55 |
| tsufiev | congratulations to both david-lyle_ and robcresswell :) | 12:55 |
| robcresswell | Thanks everyone | 12:55 |
| itxaka | o/ | 12:55 |
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| itxaka | congrats both! | 12:56 |
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| claudiub|2 | hello | 13:01 |
| atuvenie | hi all | 13:01 |
| claudiub|2 | #startmeeting hyper-v | 13:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 23 13:01:18 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is claudiub|2. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'hyper_v' | 13:01 |
| sagar_nikam | Hi | 13:01 |
| c64cosmin | hello all | 13:01 |
| claudiub|2 | ok, I'll try to keep it short. | 13:01 |
| claudiub|2 | #topic mitaka releases | 13:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "mitaka releases (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:02 | |
| claudiub|2 | so, mitaka is going to be released in early april, meaning that any and all dependencies will have to be released until then too. | 13:02 |
| claudiub|2 | that includes networking_hyperv, compute_hyperv, and os-win | 13:02 |
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| claudiub|2 | I'm going to cut the stable/mitaka branches on friday / saturday | 13:03 |
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| claudiub|2 | #action claudiub to cut the stable/mitaka branches | 13:03 |
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| claudiub|2 | which means, that if there are any more issues or bugs, this week is going to be a good chance to fix them. :) | 13:04 |
| claudiub|2 | if there's anything, let me know | 13:04 |
| claudiub|2 | ok, moving on. | 13:05 |
| claudiub|2 | #topic hyper-v neutron vif plug event listener on spawn | 13:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "hyper-v neutron vif plug event listener on spawn (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:05 | |
| claudiub|2 | so, this was suggested some time ago by the HP folks. The main idea was that the Hyper-V Driver was not waiting for the vNICs to be bound, which was leading to missed DHCP requests. | 13:06 |
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| claudiub|2 | we've addressed that issue in compute_hyperv, and it will have to be included in nova as well | 13:06 |
| claudiub|2 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292615/ | 13:06 |
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| claudiub|2 | #action propose the hyper-v neutron vif plug event listerner commit on nova | 13:07 |
| claudiub|2 | from experiments, it seemed to be behaving properly, with little to no decrease in performance, but a rally would be nice to confirm this. | 13:08 |
| claudiub|2 | ok, moving on. | 13:08 |
| claudiub|2 | #topic Rally performance tests | 13:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Rally performance tests (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:09 | |
| claudiub|2 | abalutoiu: hello. do you have any good news for us? :) | 13:09 |
| abalutoiu | hello | 13:09 |
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| abalutoiu | so last week we had some results for the spawn / destroy scenario, here are the results for the spawn / destroy scenario including ssh guest access http://46.101.88.127:8888/PyMI_KVM_ssh_Mitaka.html | 13:10 |
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| abalutoiu | Liberty ones, for comparison: http://46.101.88.127:8888/PyMI_KVM_ssh_Liberty.html | 13:11 |
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| claudiub|2 | #link Mitaka Hyper-V vs KVM http://46.101.88.127:8888/PyMI_KVM_ssh_Mitaka.html | 13:12 |
| sagar_nikam | avg time is more in HyperV | 13:12 |
| claudiub|2 | #link Liberty Hyper-V vs KVM http://46.101.88.127:8888/PyMI_KVM_ssh_Liberty.html | 13:13 |
| sagar_nikam | kvm - nova.boot_server19.50234.97166.85974.39878.74142.074100.0%100 | 13:13 |
| sagar_nikam | hyperv - nova.boot_server32.596120.705147.194155.103177.713109.56598.0%100 | 13:13 |
| abalutoiu | sagar_nikam: those are the results for Liberty, the old ones, have a look over the Mitaka results | 13:14 |
| sagar_nikam | has anything changed ? last week we saw almost same result for hyperv and kvm | 13:14 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:14 |
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| abalutoiu | the results from last week didn't include ssh guest access | 13:14 |
| sagar_nikam | ok, this looks good | 13:15 |
| sagar_nikam | kvm and hyperv almost same | 13:15 |
| sagar_nikam | the avg time includes ssh access ? | 13:15 |
| claudiub|2 | yep. | 13:15 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:15 |
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| sagar_nikam | and how many NICs ? | 13:15 |
| sagar_nikam | per VM | 13:15 |
| abalutoiu | only one NIC | 13:16 |
| sagar_nikam | ? | 13:16 |
| sagar_nikam | and are we trying attaching volumes | 13:16 |
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| abalutoiu | it's a simple scenario, spin up a VM, add floating ip to it, wait until it becomes active via ssh, then destroy the VM | 13:17 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:17 |
| sagar_nikam | these results are good | 13:17 |
| sagar_nikam | nice work | 13:17 |
| sonu | can we continue our tests without destroying the VM? | 13:18 |
| abalutoiu | we also have some results for Hadoop workloads | 13:18 |
| claudiub|2 | sonu: any reason why? | 13:18 |
| abalutoiu | #link Mitaka Hyper-V vs KVM Hadoop cluster tests http://46.101.88.127:8888/Cluster_Results_Mitaka.html | 13:18 |
| sonu | The only reason being, the larger the number of ACLs in MI, the more load on the neutron agent. | 13:19 |
| sonu | and more time it takes. And we can measure the times it varies with the number of ACLs. | 13:19 |
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| abalutoiu | Flavor for VMs: 2 vCPUs, 6GB RAM, 25GB disk, number of parallel clusters for multi cluster test: 3, input data set for tera jobs: 5.000.000, clusters consists of 4 nodes (1 master + 3 slaves) | 13:20 |
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| claudiub|2 | sonu: That also depends on the rally scenario. For example, if the scenario says 100 VMs, with 100 VMs per round, for 1 round, it will spawn all 100 VMs. Then destroy them. | 13:20 |
| sonu | sure. then we are good. | 13:21 |
| claudiub|2 | anyways, looking at abalutoiu's hadoop results, it seems hyper-v is more favorable in this scenario | 13:21 |
| sonu | and we use default security group rules for our tests. | 13:21 |
| claudiub|2 | sonu: default + ssh. :) | 13:22 |
| sonu | Thank you. We will consume this coming next week and run some scale tests. | 13:22 |
| claudiub|2 | sure, sounds good. :) | 13:22 |
| claudiub|2 | anything else on this topic? | 13:23 |
| claudiub|2 | ok, moving on. | 13:23 |
| sonu | Any chance we can get these improvements backported to L | 13:23 |
| sonu | we are on L release | 13:23 |
| sagar_nikam | it would be nice if these are backported to L | 13:23 |
| sonu | we are trying to backport on our local branch - native threading and PYMI and ERPC | 13:24 |
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| claudiub|2 | sonu: any improvement related to spawning / creating / destroy the vm etc. has been included in compute_hyperv on stable/liberty | 13:24 |
| sonu | thank you | 13:24 |
| claudiub|2 | for the networking-hyperv side, I'm afraid not. networking-hyperv is an official project under neutron's governance. The improvements we've done in Mitaka were marked as blueprints, meaning that they can't be backported. | 13:24 |
| claudiub|2 | ok, moving on. | 13:25 |
| claudiub|2 | #topic OVS agent on Hyper-V | 13:26 |
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| claudiub|2 | atuvenie: hello. I suppose the agent works fine for Mitaka, right? | 13:26 |
| atuvenie | yeah, we just merged the last patch that was causing some issues, all is fine now | 13:26 |
| claudiub|2 | cool. | 13:27 |
| claudiub|2 | seems that we're almost done with the work for Mitaka. :) | 13:27 |
| sonu | atuvenie : Do we know the feature parity between OVS for Linux and OVS Windows. Are all features supported as is in OVS. | 13:27 |
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| atuvenie | sonu: I'm not quite sure what you mean. Are you talking about the OVS Agent or OVS itself? | 13:28 |
| sonu | Who participates in OVS forums from within us, who can bring us this info? | 13:28 |
| sonu | OVS itself. | 13:28 |
| atuvenie | sonu: I do not work on OVS directly so I'm not up to speed on the topic | 13:29 |
| claudiub|2 | AFAIK, no, there shouldn't be any disparity. all network types work the same on Linux and Windows. | 13:30 |
| sonu | Thanks. May be we start attending OVS IRC chats to get more info. | 13:30 |
| claudiub|2 | but as far as OVS agent is concerned, it works the same on Windows and Linux. | 13:31 |
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| sonu | And is there a CI for Microsoft HyperV when a change is done in neutron-openvswitch-agent? | 13:31 |
| sonu | because it is shared b/w Linux and Windows now :) | 13:31 |
| claudiub|2 | not yet, but we're working on it. :) | 13:32 |
| sonu | Great. Thank you. | 13:32 |
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| claudiub|2 | ok, moving on | 13:32 |
| sagar_nikam | claudiub|2: i have a topic | 13:32 |
| claudiub|2 | #topic OpenStack Summit | 13:33 |
| sagar_nikam | on certs | 13:33 |
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| claudiub|2 | sagar_nikam: sure, I'll get to that soon. :) | 13:33 |
| claudiub|2 | anyways, we've requested a worksession at the next OpenStack summit. | 13:34 |
| claudiub|2 | in which we can discuss any further improvement and development of os-win and other Hyper-V / Windows related workloads. | 13:35 |
| sonu | Will OVN be part of design discussion? | 13:35 |
| claudiub|2 | including new features and so on. | 13:35 |
| claudiub|2 | sonu: sure, we are looking into it as well. | 13:36 |
| claudiub|2 | so, question: who is going to attend the summit? | 13:36 |
| sonu | I will have one representative from networking team. | 13:37 |
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| claudiub|2 | ok, cool. | 13:38 |
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| claudiub|2 | ok, moving on | 13:38 |
| claudiub|2 | # topic certificates | 13:38 |
| claudiub|2 | #topic certificates | 13:38 |
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| sagar_nikam | based on the meeting discussion last week | 13:39 |
| sagar_nikam | we tried using certs on the hyperv hosts | 13:39 |
| sagar_nikam | we copied the .crt file from controller | 13:39 |
| sagar_nikam | to the hyperv host | 13:39 |
| sagar_nikam | and had the correct https and cafile entry in nova.conf | 13:40 |
| sagar_nikam | we are using python 2.7.10 64 bit on the hyperv host | 13:40 |
| sagar_nikam | we hit a issue | 13:40 |
| sagar_nikam | which is exactly same as described here | 13:41 |
| sagar_nikam | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/33140382/troubleshooting-ssl-certificate-verify-failed-error | 13:41 |
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| sagar_nikam | the issue was urllib2.URLError: <urlopen error [SSL: CERTIFICATE_VERIFY_FAILED] certificate verify failed (_ssl.c:590) | 13:41 |
| sagar_nikam | this looks like a issue in python 2.7.10 | 13:41 |
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| claudiub|2 | interesting | 13:42 |
| sagar_nikam | since it uses openssl 1.0.2a | 13:42 |
| sagar_nikam | and we need 1.0.2b or greater | 13:42 |
| sagar_nikam | which is available in python 2.7.11 | 13:42 |
| sagar_nikam | now my question | 13:42 |
| sagar_nikam | how was your tests done using certs | 13:42 |
| sagar_nikam | did you not hit this issue | 13:43 |
| sagar_nikam | ? | 13:43 |
| sagar_nikam | what version of python do you use ? | 13:43 |
| sagar_nikam | on hyperv host | 13:43 |
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| claudiub|2 | the hyper-v compute installers come with python 2.7.9 | 13:45 |
| claudiub|2 | so, we're using that. so, the person that answered your previous email is not here at the moment, but he'll be back later and he'll be able to send you an answer. | 13:45 |
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| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:45 |
| sagar_nikam | thanks | 13:46 |
| sagar_nikam | not sure if python 2.7.9 can solve the issue | 13:46 |
| sagar_nikam | but i will wait for the mail | 13:46 |
| claudiub|2 | sagar_nikam: although, i am a bit curious, can you check what python version you use on your Openstack controller? | 13:46 |
| sagar_nikam | python 2.7.9 | 13:46 |
| sagar_nikam | we had some issues with python 2.7.9 on windows | 13:47 |
| sagar_nikam | and hence used 27.10 | 13:47 |
| sagar_nikam | nova code was not getting compiled on 2.7.9 | 13:47 |
| claudiub|2 | what kind of issues did you have with python 2.7.9 on windows? | 13:47 |
| sagar_nikam | some dependent packages | 13:47 |
| sagar_nikam | when we run setup.py | 13:47 |
| sagar_nikam | of nova | 13:47 |
| sagar_nikam | packages were not getting complied | 13:47 |
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| claudiub|2 | sure, nova and a lot of other projects have linux specific dependencies, which cannot be installed on windows. | 13:48 |
| claudiub|2 | which is why we recommend the installer, as we package those dependencies as well | 13:48 |
| sagar_nikam | the compiled packages --- are they available for others to use | 13:48 |
| sagar_nikam | whatever you got it compiled ? | 13:49 |
| claudiub|2 | plus, there are other dependencies like numpy that has to be compiled. windows doesn't typically come with a compiler and you wouldn't want one on nano or bare hyper-v hosts. | 13:49 |
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| sagar_nikam | we use mingw for compiling | 13:50 |
| sagar_nikam | and that solved lot of complilation issues | 13:50 |
| sagar_nikam | in 2.7.10 | 13:50 |
| claudiub|2 | yeah, ofc, but there is no need to compile anything when using the installer, everything is already packaged in the Python folder it installs. | 13:51 |
| sagar_nikam | one question -- all the packages which you have complied | 13:51 |
| sagar_nikam | is that available for others to use | 13:51 |
| sagar_nikam | we are not using that installer | 13:52 |
| sagar_nikam | hence the question | 13:52 |
| claudiub|2 | i'm not against it. :) | 13:52 |
| sagar_nikam | if the compiled files are available, we can use it while we run setup.py | 13:53 |
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| sagar_nikam | and that would solve lot of the compilation issues we faced in 2.7.9 | 13:53 |
| claudiub|2 | but we still recomend using the installer. it can be installed in unnattended mode, which is perfect for automations. | 13:54 |
| slogan | #join #openstack-monasca | 13:54 |
| claudiub|2 | #topic open discussion | 13:54 |
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| claudiub|2 | so, the Newton branch is open, which means we will start merging patches on master again | 13:55 |
| claudiub|2 | one pending patch that we want is the os-win in os-brick patch | 13:55 |
| claudiub|2 | that is based on henma's patch | 13:56 |
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| sagar_nikam | upstream branch open ? | 13:57 |
| claudiub|2 | sagar_nikam: hist patch is still WIP. Any news from him? | 13:57 |
| sagar_nikam | for newton | 13:57 |
| claudiub|2 | sagar_nikam: yeah, for most projects. | 13:57 |
| sagar_nikam | i can check | 13:57 |
| sagar_nikam | can you let me know which patch set | 13:57 |
| sagar_nikam | can we start submitting FC and cluster BPs and patches in N | 13:57 |
| claudiub|2 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/275943/5 | 13:58 |
| sagar_nikam | we can get review time | 13:58 |
| sagar_nikam | now | 13:58 |
| claudiub|2 | the blueprints have been reapproved for N. | 13:58 |
| sagar_nikam | can we re-submit code as well | 13:58 |
| sagar_nikam | both for cluster driver and FC | 13:58 |
| sagar_nikam | it would be nice to get it merged upstream | 13:58 |
| sagar_nikam | in N | 13:58 |
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| claudiub|2 | anyways, we'll also have to recreate the famous 3 hyper-v patches queue that needs to be reviewed and ready to merge on the etherpad. | 13:59 |
| claudiub|2 | ofc. having os-win in os-brick will greatly help on this subject. | 13:59 |
| claudiub|2 | #action claudiub to create the nova patches queue on etherpad. | 13:59 |
| claudiub|2 | Seems that our time is over | 14:00 |
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| claudiub|2 | thanks all for attending! | 14:00 |
| claudiub|2 | #endmeeting | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 23 14:00:23 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2016/hyper_v.2016-03-23-13.01.txt | 14:00 |
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| ajo | hi :) | 14:01 |
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| davidsha | hey | 14:02 |
| njohnsto_ | Hey | 14:02 |
| slogan | hi | 14:02 |
| ajo | let me ping rediip | 14:03 |
| jschwarz | hello :) | 14:03 |
| ajo | #startmeeting neutron_qos | 14:03 |
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| jschwarz | njohnsto_, did you see the mail tread I opened for you? :) | 14:03 |
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| njohnsto_ | Yes, and I am very much appreciative! | 14:04 |
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| njohnsto_ | jschwarz: I'll get the hang of full stack tests yet; I'm just glad I wasn't doing something foolish. | 14:05 |
| ajo | hi :-)ok, let's get to that at some point :D | 14:05 |
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| ajo | #topic Features: DSCP | 14:05 |
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| jschwarz | :) | 14:05 |
| ajo | DSCP got merged for Newton, sadly not for Mitaka, but life goes on, | 14:05 |
| ajo | I'm happy to see it finally merged. | 14:06 |
| davidsha | +1 | 14:06 |
| njohnsto_ | Hallelujah and amen | 14:06 |
| ajo | lol | 14:06 |
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| njohnsto_ | The docs changes are waiting for the Newton cut offs | 14:06 |
| ajo | Technologies like SR-IOV support that, and OVS & Linux bridge can be configured to support this type of service. Where in OvS it requires to | 14:07 |
| ajo | We will have to wait for the dependencies also to finish the fullstack part | 14:07 |
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| ajo | (aka python-neutronclient) | 14:08 |
| njohnsto_ | Yes | 14:08 |
| ajo | njohnsto_, you're tracking the docs, right? | 14:08 |
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| ajo | reedip__ not exactly, I mean, how would it work exactly | 14:24 |
| ajo | it's more like an spec what I'm asking probably | 14:24 |
| reedip__ | ajo , ok | 14:24 |
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| ajo | so I wonder if you could just jump into the spec, may be in etherpad format until drivers give you approval | 14:24 |
| ajo | because from vikram conversation | 14:25 |
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| reedip__ | ajo : Yes, I think I can start the spec on etherpad, and then discuss the same with the drivers in a seprate thread | 14:25 |
| ajo | I understood that you could use the ECN signaling from node to node to throttle the other side bandwidth in OVS | 14:25 |
| ajo | when ECN is supposed to be E2E | 14:25 |
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| ajo | ok, we can wait for that, and move on now. | 14:27 |
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| ajo | #topic Bugs | 14:27 |
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| ajo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1507761 qos wrong units in max-burst-kbps option (per-second is wrong) | 14:27 |
| ajo | ah, I see slawek is not here | 14:27 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1507761 in neutron "qos wrong units in max-burst-kbps option (per-second is wrong)" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 14:27 |
| ajo | I remember he started work on it | 14:27 |
| ajo | but I see no review linked | 14:28 |
| ajo | ok | 14:28 |
| ajo | #topic Free discussion | 14:28 |
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| ajo | anything that I missed or anybody wants to discuss? :) | 14:29 |
| davidsha | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/291633/ | 14:29 |
| ajo | thanks davidsha , I will manually add it to the bug report. | 14:29 |
| davidsha | ajo: np :) | 14:30 |
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| * njohnsto_ is copacetic. | 14:30 | |
| davidsha | just on neutron classifier, is there a way we could make it use OVS flows? the only way I can think of is to pass in the bridge object, otherwise would it be worth just using it with tc? | 14:31 |
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| ajo | davidsha, that's a good question, also related to min bw guarantees | 14:32 |
| ajo | so the most "compatible" way with our current openflow rules would be using tc to filter / queue stuff | 14:32 |
| ajo | but it's a bit of a mix up | 14:32 |
| ajo | please look at this review | 14:32 |
| ajo | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284259/13/doc/source/devref/openvswitch_firewall.rst | 14:32 |
| ajo | this is being implemented for jlibosva in the ovs firewall | 14:32 |
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| ajo | it marks the port number in reg5 and local-vlan on reg6 | 14:33 |
| ajo | we could use that to avoid the "NORMAL" rules for data, and use directed flows | 14:33 |
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| davidsha | kk, I'm going to be working on the extension-flow management as well so I'll keep an eye on this. | 14:34 |
| ajo | if we had directed flows for the traffic (instead of using NORMAL to send the packet finally to it's destination) we could just use enqueue(port, queue) | 14:34 |
| ajo | I wonder if we could use the set_queue action | 14:35 |
| ajo | at some point | 14:35 |
| ajo | I didn't look at that when I experimented | 14:35 |
| ajo | set_queue:queue | 14:36 |
| ajo | Sets the queue that should be used to queue when packets are output. The number of supported queues | 14:36 |
| ajo | depends on the switch; some OpenFlow implementations do not support queuing at all. | 14:36 |
| ajo | I wonder if that works with "NORMAL" | 14:36 |
| ajo | davidsha, ^ any idea? | 14:36 |
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| davidsha | I'm unfamiliar with set_queue, I'll look into it. Also enqueue doesn't actually send the traffic so it can still be resubmitted! | 14:36 |
| ajo | davidsha, it does not? | 14:36 |
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| davidsha | ajo: no, I'll double check but last time I used it it didn't send packets unless I included the Normal action. | 14:37 |
| ajo | davidsha, it worked in my experiments | 14:37 |
| ajo | without the normal action, of course :) | 14:37 |
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| davidsha | I'll double check later, it's probably my mistake then. | 14:38 |
| ajo | davidsha, : https://github.com/mangelajo/ovs-experiments/blob/master/qos/qos_complex_traffic_shapping.sh#L298 | 14:38 |
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| ajo | if we could use dl_dst=$MAC_A actions=set_queue:N | 14:38 |
| ajo | and then NORMAL obeys that... that'd be awesome | 14:39 |
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| ajo | #action ajo try set_queue to see if it's a way to simplify how to implement traffic_classification and min bandwidth | 14:39 |
| davidsha | was the traffic being received though? | 14:40 |
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| ajo | davidsha, yes | 14:40 |
| ajo | davidsha, and the bandwidth measurements matched what it was expected | 14:40 |
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| ajo | davidsha, you can run the script in your machine if you want :) | 14:41 |
| ajo | davidsha, it cleans up at the end. | 14:41 |
| davidsha | kk, I think you showed it to me before as well, I'll try it again. | 14:42 |
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| ajo | ok, anything else, or shall we end the meeting for today? :) | 14:43 |
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| davidsha | I'm good, thanks! | 14:45 |
| ajo | soo | 14:46 |
| ajo | thanks everybody for joining | 14:46 |
| ajo | #endmeeting | 14:46 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 23 14:46:48 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:46 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2016/neutron_qos.2016-03-23-14.03.html | 14:46 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2016/neutron_qos.2016-03-23-14.03.txt | 14:46 |
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| davidsha | ajo: just for object versioning actually, are you supposed to be able to increment an object version? | 14:47 |
| davidsha | so from version 1.0 -> 1.1? | 14:48 |
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| ajo | davidsha, I think you actually can't, but I'm not sure | 14:48 |
| ajo | I guess you need something like that if you change a field name | 14:48 |
| ajo | for example | 14:48 |
| ajo | davidsha, I'd look at the versionedobjects tests | 14:48 |
| ajo | to see if there's something like that or ask dansmith in #openstack-oslo | 14:48 |
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| davidsha | ajo: kk, I was testing and it wasn't working, wasn't sure If I'd done it wrong, but it makes sense it wouldn't work. | 14:49 |
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| reedip__ | ajo : have we decided on the topics for Austin ? | 14:54 |
| ajo | reedip__, not really, you mean discussion? | 14:54 |
| reedip__ | ajo : I hope I am not interrupting .. (??) | 14:54 |
| reedip__ | ajo : yes | 14:54 |
| ajo | reedip__ no, but one could be traffic classification | 14:54 |
| reedip__ | ajo : I was looking at the etherpad armax set up for Austin | 14:54 |
| ajo | another about integration with nova / guarantees | 14:54 |
| ajo | reedip__ could you relink me to it? | 14:55 |
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| reedip__ | ajo : and saw QoS , so thought to ask | 14:55 |
| davidsha | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-neutron-summit-ideas | 14:55 |
| reedip__ | thanks davidsha :) | 14:55 |
| davidsha | np :) | 14:55 |
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| ajo | reedip__, davidsha I updated it | 14:57 |
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| reedip__ | ajo : yup, saw it | 14:58 |
| davidsha | +1 | 14:58 |
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| davidsha | qould that be related then to the point underneath it? | 14:59 |
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| rhochmuth | #startmeeting monasca | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 23 15:01:16 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rhochmuth. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'monasca' | 15:01 |
| shinya_kwbt_ | o/ | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | o/ | 15:01 |
| rbak | o/ | 15:01 |
| Kamil | o/ | 15:01 |
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| hosanai | o/ | 15:01 |
| bmotz | o/ | 15:01 |
| tomasztrebski | o/ | 15:02 |
| bklei | o/ | 15:02 |
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| rhochmuth | Meeting agenda is posted at, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-team-meeting-agenda | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | Agenda for Wednesday March 23, 2016 (15:00 UTC) | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | 1. Horizon updates for Grafana 2 | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/295983/ | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | 3. Periodic metrics | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | 3.1 Initial state for sparse metrics? AlarmState.OK ? | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | 3.2 Value for sparse (period < 0) metrics? Force 1.0 as value, or leave it to be specified elsewhere ? | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | 3.2.1 Using aggregate functions when it comes to sparse metrics? | 15:02 |
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| rhochmuth | 3.3 Should period be forced to -1 always ? | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | 3.4 Should alarm transition to AlarmState.OK in next cycle in case there were no metrics collected, given that previously it was AlarmState.ALARM? => for sparse only | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | 3.5 SubAlarm#getExpression#getPeriod - logic behind, could it be somehow reused or is it something different at all? | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | 4, Mitaka release update and tagging | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | 5. InfluxDB 10.X update | 15:02 |
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| rhochmuth | so, let's start with the grafana 2 update | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | #topic grafana 2 | 15:03 |
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| rbak | I don't have too much at the moment. | 15:03 |
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| rhochmuth | i saw the review that you posted | 15:03 |
| rbak | I put up a patch for monasca-ui changes for grafana 2. | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | i haven't tested, but I think it would be great to convert over | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | hpe isn't the primary user of the ui anymore | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | so, this would be up to other orgs to approve | 15:04 |
| rbak | I'm not sure who else is using the ui | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | also, your review is referencing your twc repos | 15:04 |
| rbak | Yes, since that's where monasca is at the moment. | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | fujitsu, nec, sap, ... | 15:04 |
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| rbak | grafana, not monasca | 15:05 |
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| rhochmuth | true | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | i think they are all interested in your grafana changes | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | but i'm not sure if they are using | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | sap seemed very interested | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | i believe joachim was looking at it | 15:06 |
| bmotz | we're using it, and interested in the Grafana 2 update at some point - I'll try to have a look at the patch | 15:06 |
| tgraichen | maybe just a little note from your side: darran hague from our team has added some more functionality to the grafana2 keystone stuff like syncing roles from keystone to grafana | 15:06 |
| rhochmuth | thanks bmotz | 15:06 |
| rhochmuth | thanks traichen | 15:06 |
| tgraichen | as far as i know ryan also implemented something like this and darran and ryan will try to merge their changes together somehow | 15:06 |
| rhochmuth | shinya, are you looking at grafana 2 | 15:07 |
| shinya_kwbt_ | Sorry not yet | 15:07 |
| rhochmuth | thx | 15:07 |
| rbak | tgraichen: Send me an email about those changes. I think we might have some overlap | 15:07 |
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| shinya_kwbt_ | I will try | 15:07 |
| tgraichen | i rbak: arran will contact you i think | 15:07 |
| rbak | sounds good | 15:07 |
| rhochmuth | rbak: have you tested the devstack deploy | 15:08 |
| rhochmuth | with your ui/grafana changes? | 15:08 |
| rbak | It passed the testing, but I haven't tested in devstack. | 15:08 |
| rhochmuth | it would be really nice to see this integrated in devstack | 15:09 |
| rbak | Grafana requires building the packages yourself, so the monasca-ui links aren't going to work by default in devstack. | 15:09 |
| rhochmuth | you can actually do a build in devstack | 15:09 |
| rhochmuth | we build the jave projects i beleive | 15:09 |
| rbak | I'll look into it | 15:10 |
| rhochmuth | the last time i tried the devstack build, horizon wasn't working for me | 15:10 |
| rhochmuth | so, it could have been somethign was out-of-sync | 15:10 |
| rbak | monasca-ui, or horizon in general? | 15:10 |
| rhochmuth | horizon in general | 15:10 |
| rhochmuth | anyway, i'l kinda anxious to get all this working in-time for the summit | 15:11 |
| slogan | did it generate a traceback or was some functionality just not working quite right? | 15:11 |
| rhochmuth | it generated a django traceback | 15:11 |
| slogan | that would be nice to see | 15:11 |
| rhochmuth | not sure what i did with the error | 15:11 |
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| rhochmuth | i'll try again | 15:12 |
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| shinya_kwbt | I also want see traceback | 15:12 |
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| slogan | and some general steps that lead to the traceback if possible (standard stuff I know) | 15:12 |
| rhochmuth | ok, i'll try and get one, but can't do right now | 15:13 |
| slogan | early april I'm going to be putting together demos with broadview that will involve some amount of using monasca-ui grafana, if I see any bugs I'll report them (or fix them) | 15:14 |
| rhochmuth | rbak: do you have any status update on whether they are going to accept your changes? | 15:14 |
| rhochmuth | slogan: thanks | 15:15 |
| rbak | rhochmuth: That's not looking good at the moment. | 15:15 |
| rhochmuth | ohh, what happened? | 15:15 |
| rbak | We had a lot of communication for a while, and had a plan for moving forward, but then they just disappeared. | 15:16 |
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| rbak | I haven't heard anything for a while now. We're trying to get in touch again. | 15:16 |
| rbak | I'll give an update when I know more. | 15:17 |
| rhochmuth | ok, thanks | 15:17 |
| rhochmuth | so, i guess we';; have to use your repos | 15:17 |
| rbak | for the moment anyway. | 15:17 |
| rhochmuth | well, anyway, just want to reitterate it would be nice to see this running in the devstack environment... | 15:19 |
| rhochmuth | i guess next topic | 15:19 |
| rhochmuth | #topic Periodic metrics | 15:19 |
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| tomasztrebski | that's on me, lots and lots of questions :) | 15:20 |
| rhochmuth | we might need to schedule a meeting on this one and get Craig involved | 15:20 |
| rhochmuth | i started to review last night | 15:20 |
| rhochmuth | and then craig told me he wasn't sure the direction you were headed was going to work | 15:20 |
| rhochmuth | so, it is probably best to have some one-on-one time with him | 15:21 |
| rhochmuth | but, you are free to ask away | 15:21 |
| rhochmuth | if it is not too technical | 15:21 |
| rhochmuth | i'm a ptl you know | 15:21 |
| slogan | lol | 15:21 |
| rhochmuth | thanks slogan | 15:21 |
| tomasztrebski | you're tough :) and my questions are not technical | 15:21 |
| rhochmuth | ok | 15:22 |
| rhochmuth | please proceed | 15:22 |
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| tomasztrebski | more or less I have couple points where I am not exactly sure where to go with implementation | 15:22 |
| rhochmuth | ok | 15:22 |
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| tomasztrebski | so, first of all for sparse metric, I've been thinking what should be the initial state the alarm should enter | 15:22 |
| tomasztrebski | till now it was UNDETERMINED, right ? | 15:23 |
| rhochmuth | correct | 15:23 |
| tomasztrebski | but it was for periodic metrics | 15:23 |
| rhochmuth | right | 15:23 |
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| tomasztrebski | should stay the same at least till first measurements are received ? | 15:23 |
| rhochmuth | it probably makes sense that a sparse metric would transition immediately | 15:23 |
| rhochmuth | the alarm doesn't exist until the first metric is received | 15:24 |
| tomasztrebski | well, I've been testing it a bit and until first data arrives it stays with initial state UNDETERMINED | 15:24 |
| rhochmuth | in he case of a period metric, it doesn't transition until after it has received some number of metrics | 15:25 |
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| rhochmuth | so, the alarm is created when the first metric is received in the undetermined state | 15:25 |
| slogan | lazy instantiation | 15:25 |
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| rhochmuth | then some number of metrics will need to be sent, until the threshold engine "has enough" | 15:25 |
| rhochmuth | then it will transition to ok or alarm | 15:26 |
| tomasztrebski | yes | 15:26 |
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| tomasztrebski | ok, IMHO it is better to put this to OK at once | 15:26 |
| rhochmuth | but in the case of a sparse metric, it should transition when the alarm is created | 15:27 |
| rhochmuth | i agree | 15:27 |
| rhochmuth | at least in the sparse case | 15:27 |
| rhochmuth | it should transiiton to the ok or alarm state | 15:27 |
| tomasztrebski | yes, because for periodic it should stay the same with one exception (if metric would come with period > 0, that value should be used) | 15:27 |
| tomasztrebski | *the behaviour should stay the same, I mean | 15:28 |
| rhochmuth | correct | 15:28 |
| tomasztrebski | ok, so if nobody has any objections, let's move on, I don't want to spend too much time asking ;-) | 15:28 |
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| tomasztrebski | next questions is for values of "value" and "period" | 15:28 |
| rhochmuth | ok | 15:29 |
| tomasztrebski | for value I am not sure what should be the value, just make it 1.0 and stick to it or let any agent to set it on its own, but I'd rather think that it should be specified outside of the threshold engine (i.e. monasca-agent) | 15:29 |
| tomasztrebski | I mean metric['value'] ;-0 | 15:30 |
| tomasztrebski | and that's also question for sparse metrics only | 15:30 |
| rhochmuth | i'm not sure i follow | 15:30 |
| rhochmuth | the value is sent for a sparse metric | 15:30 |
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| rhochmuth | so the value would normally just be the value of the last metric sent | 15:31 |
| tomasztrebski | mhm, yeah but it was better to ask, I got little lost in threshold engine but I need to come up with something at least testable | 15:31 |
| rhochmuth | i don't think using the avg function is useful for sparse metrics | 15:32 |
| tomasztrebski | maybe not, I am not sure right now, but if it wouldn't make sense, we would need to modify logic somewhere to store period and in the same time do the same in monasca-ui to display only those functions that make sense | 15:33 |
| rhochmuth | that is a possiblity, but a lot more invasive | 15:35 |
| rhochmuth | i think the usage of the metric is implicit in the metric | 15:35 |
| rhochmuth | not explicit | 15:35 |
| tomasztrebski | so the question would be what functions are not suitable, if any...but maybe that's not the right time to debate over this, I will put this in the agenda that will give some time to think over this | 15:35 |
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| rhochmuth | so for a sparse metric, raking the avg over the last 5 minutes or hour, either doesnt' make sense, ir it is just the last value that was sent, | 15:36 |
| rhochmuth | unless multiple metrics were sent in the last time period | 15:37 |
| tomasztrebski | maybe if you would like set the metric (as we need in alarm-on-logs) to establish avg amount of logs from entire system, maybe that would make sense | 15:37 |
| tomasztrebski | *set the alarm | 15:37 |
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| rhochmuth | so, i'll talk to craig and will try and setup something with you to discuss implementation details further | 15:38 |
| rhochmuth | does that sound ok | 15:38 |
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| tomasztrebski | yes, I will keep the rest of the questions for that meeting | 15:39 |
| rhochmuth | ok, thanks | 15:39 |
| rhochmuth | #topic mitaka | 15:39 |
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| rhochmuth | we are coming up on the mitaka final release | 15:39 |
| rhochmuth | i'll need to apply tags to all the monasca repos over the next few days | 15:39 |
| rhochmuth | we have a number of reviews in flight, mainly focused on bugs and performance improvmenets | 15:40 |
| rhochmuth | so, i would like to just focus on those for the next few days | 15:40 |
| rhochmuth | in general, our master branch is always in excellent shape | 15:40 |
| rhochmuth | so, i'm planning on moving tags to top of master by the end of the week | 15:40 |
| rhochmuth | please heop out with reviews and testing if possible | 15:41 |
| rhochmuth | as this is our first major release with monasca | 15:41 |
| rhochmuth | official release that is | 15:41 |
| rhochmuth | if anyone knows of anything that needs to be or shoudl be adressed pleae let me know | 15:41 |
| slogan | how does one gauge the priority of one review over another? | 15:41 |
| slogan | I recall when I was involved with neutron there would be a list somewhere | 15:42 |
| rhochmuth | bugs and performance enhancements are usually priortized above features | 15:42 |
| rhochmuth | we dont' have an active list like neutron | 15:42 |
| slogan | this priority is in the bug system (noob question) | 15:43 |
| rhochmuth | possibly | 15:43 |
| slogan | ok | 15:43 |
| rhochmuth | we also have bugs that are reported by our representative orgs, like hpe | 15:43 |
| slogan | there is some convention, like the commit message specifies the bug URI, or number? | 15:44 |
| rhochmuth | correct, we use that when bugs are reported via launchpad | 15:44 |
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| slogan | ok, cool | 15:44 |
| rhochmuth | but sometimes bugs are jsut fixed, without a corresponding launchpad number | 15:45 |
| rhochmuth | i'm probably violating some openstack rule somewhere | 15:45 |
| slogan | I guess then it is a matter of using the mailing list or IRC to get people aware of severity | 15:45 |
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| rhochmuth | yes, that is what we've been doing | 15:45 |
| rhochmuth | it is often teh sequeky whell principle | 15:45 |
| rhochmuth | but if a review has been sitting around for a while | 15:46 |
| rhochmuth | usually just brining it up here is enoguht to get some attention to it | 15:46 |
| rhochmuth | sometimes reviews sit around a while because they are difficult to test | 15:46 |
| rhochmuth | or don't seem that important | 15:46 |
| slogan | nod | 15:46 |
| rhochmuth | or folks are working on there own problems | 15:46 |
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| rhochmuth | but if it is raised here, usually someone gets to it | 15:47 |
| slogan | just to be clear, any bugs I file will be priority 1 :-P | 15:47 |
| rhochmuth | i sometimes have to poke people here | 15:47 |
| rhochmuth | haha | 15:47 |
| rhochmuth | ok, hopeflly that is enough on that topic | 15:47 |
| rhochmuth | we have around 10 minutes | 15:47 |
| rhochmuth | i was going to give an influxdb update | 15:48 |
| rhochmuth | but if there is something elese that is pressing please let me know | 15:48 |
| tomasztrebski | influx is pressing to stop releasing db for free... | 15:48 |
| rhochmuth | tomasz: you can probably merge your review that deprecates the v2.0 log api | 15:48 |
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| slogan | I've sent you e-mail about the summit and we can do that over e-mail if you like, I assume some rooms etc. were approvided | 15:48 |
| slogan | er, approved | 15:48 |
| rhochmuth | slogan: i don't know yet, but i'll get with you over email | 15:49 |
| rhochmuth | i'm still recovering from last week | 15:49 |
| slogan | perfect | 15:49 |
| rhochmuth | mabe i shouldn't take off anymore | 15:49 |
| slogan | I was thinking that... | 15:49 |
| tomasztrebski | roland: ok, I will try to do this, I have one other thing to commit but once it is ready I'll just publish it | 15:49 |
| slogan | :-) | 15:49 |
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| rhochmuth | tomasz: cool, i'm just trying to get this into the mitaka release | 15:49 |
| rhochmuth | and time is running out | 15:50 |
| rhochmuth | although, we did merge the latest v3.0 code | 15:50 |
| rhochmuth | so that is in good shape | 15:50 |
| rhochmuth | i'll look for your changes | 15:50 |
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| rhochmuth | #topic influxdb | 15:51 |
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| rhochmuth | so, we had a discussion with them yesterday | 15:51 |
| rhochmuth | they are going to review to see if they come up with anything that would meet the requirement for an open-source ha influxdb | 15:51 |
| rhochmuth | i was wondering what other s thoguht about this announcement | 15:52 |
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| rhochmuth | and the impact | 15:52 |
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| bmotz | we're more concerned about the clustering | 15:52 |
| rhochmuth | that is what i meant by the ha | 15:53 |
| bmotz | ah, ok :) | 15:53 |
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| rhochmuth | basically, clustering in influxdb will be closed source | 15:53 |
| bklei | from what paul said, the free product without clustering will support HA, and ~400 metrics/sec | 15:53 |
| bklei | sorry -- 400K :) | 15:53 |
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| rhochmuth | it is poor man's ha | 15:54 |
| bmotz | in the medium term we're looking at scaling to data rates an order of magnitude or three above that... | 15:54 |
| rhochmuth | basially replication to another influxdb instance | 15:54 |
| bklei | basically duplicate writes | 15:54 |
| bklei | yup | 15:54 |
| rhochmuth | which we can already do in monasca using kafka and the persister | 15:54 |
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| rhochmuth | correct, duplicate writes | 15:55 |
| rhochmuth | so, that implies databases coudl get out of sync | 15:55 |
| bklei | for sure | 15:55 |
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| bklei | you get what you pay for :) | 15:55 |
| rhochmuth | kafka occers a certain amount of protection, | 15:55 |
| rhochmuth | yeah, i can't argue that | 15:55 |
| rhochmuth | from an hpe perspective, vertica is superior to influxdb | 15:55 |
| fabiog | from which version the clustering will be close source? | 15:56 |
| fabiog | 0.11? | 15:56 |
| rhochmuth | it's only issue was that it is closed source | 15:56 |
| bmotz | and Vertica has a clearer pricing struture! | 15:56 |
| rhochmuth | 0.12 | 15:56 |
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| bklei | and vertica is free up to 1TB? | 15:56 |
| rhochmuth | i'm sure vertica is clearer, and proabbly more expensvie, after the 1TB limit | 15:56 |
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| bklei | does the free vertica < 1TB allow clustering? | 15:57 |
| rhochmuth | yes | 15:57 |
| rhochmuth | i think it is full featured, just a 1TB limit | 15:57 |
| bklei | that's pretty good | 15:57 |
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| rhochmuth | yes, with the encoding, you are getting a significant amount of "compression" | 15:58 |
| rhochmuth | so 1 TB translates proabbly into around 20 | 15:58 |
| fabiog | is there any TS opensource database that could fit the bill? | 15:58 |
| shinya_kwbt_ | wow | 15:58 |
| bklei | i think the license limit is based on uncompressed ingest | 15:59 |
| fabiog | like OpenTSB or such? | 15:59 |
| rhochmuth | yes, that is true, but i don't think they count the encoding that we use as compression | 15:59 |
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| rhochmuth | we are still looking at cassandra | 15:59 |
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| rhochmuth | ok, time is up everyone | 16:00 |
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| rhochmuth | i need to end the meeting | 16:00 |
| rhochmuth | bye | 16:00 |
| bklei | cya | 16:00 |
| tomasztrebski | so cheers and good luck till next time | 16:00 |
| Kamil | bye | 16:00 |
| tomasztrebski | cya | 16:00 |
| shinya_kwbt_ | bye | 16:00 |
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| hosanai | thanks & bye | 16:00 |
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| rhochmuth | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 23 16:00:39 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2016/monasca.2016-03-23-15.01.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2016/monasca.2016-03-23-15.01.txt | 16:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2016/monasca.2016-03-23-15.01.log.html | 16:00 |
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| eglute | #startmeeting defcore | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 23 16:00:49 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is eglute. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: defcore)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'defcore' | 16:00 |
| eglute | Hello Everyone! here is the agenda for today: #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DefCoreRing.16 | 16:01 |
| rockyg | o/ I'm here and I was early! | 16:01 |
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| dwalleck | o/ | 16:01 |
| catherineD | o/ | 16:01 |
| docaedo | o/ | 16:01 |
| luzC | hello | 16:01 |
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| gema_ | o/ | 16:01 |
| eglute | Good to see everyone here! And if you havent yet, raise your hand o/ | 16:01 |
| hogepodge | o/ | 16:01 |
| eglute | Please review agenda and amend as needed | 16:01 |
| eglute | #chair markvoelker | 16:02 |
| openstack | Current chairs: eglute markvoelker | 16:02 |
| markvoelker | o/ | 16:02 |
| brunssen | o/ | 16:02 |
| eglute | #topic Tempest tests analysis results | 16:02 |
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| eglute | dwalleck did a lot of analysis on current tests, as discussed during the midcycle | 16:02 |
| eglute | dwalleck, go ahead | 16:02 |
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| dwalleck | So based on feedback from the midcycle, I tinkered a bit the Tempest subunit output and found we could get the steps the test took easily from the output | 16:03 |
| dwalleck | Any HTTP requests that is. SSH or other steps should be possible to | 16:04 |
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| dwalleck | This was the result: https://github.com/dwalleck/defcore-tools/blob/master/generated_test_analysis.txt (this was supposed to be markdown, but I had some last minute parsing issues) | 16:04 |
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| dwalleck | Some tests do some very weird and unexpected things. I'm still looking through the reporting now | 16:05 |
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| dwalleck | I also did some manual analysis of the tests, which I'll wrap up this week: https://github.com/dwalleck/defcore-tools/blob/master/manual_test_analysis.txt | 16:05 |
| gema_ | dwalleck: you generated that report automatically, right? | 16:06 |
| gema_ | dwalleck: could you do that for the whole of tempest? or is that all of it? | 16:06 |
| dwalleck | There's definitely opportunities for refactoring based on what I'm seeing | 16:06 |
| eglute | this also shows how not-atomic some of these tests are | 16:07 |
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| dwalleck | gema_: You could do it for all of Tempest. I have links to the code we put together to do this in the etherpad for this week's meeting | 16:07 |
| gema_ | dwalleck: awesome, thanks! | 16:07 |
| dwalleck | The subunit parser: : https://github.com/arithx/subunit-parser and the pretty printer/reporter: https://github.com/dwalleck/defcore-tools/blob/master/process_results.py | 16:07 |
| gema_ | yep, got it now, sorry I got carried away by the report | 16:08 |
| dwalleck | This should live somewhere in an OpenStack repo if this turns out to be useful | 16:08 |
| dwalleck | No worries! | 16:08 |
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| rockyg | might be good in refstack repo. or osops | 16:09 |
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| eglute | what does everyone think of this kind of analysis? I think tempest.api.compute.images.test_images_oneserver.ImagesOneServerTestJSON.test_create_delete_image test is a good example to look at | 16:09 |
| dwalleck | My goal for next week is to have an etherpad with issues I've encountered that I think we can improve on | 16:09 |
| rockyg | It's a great start and a great tool. | 16:10 |
| rockyg | QA could use it to prune/tweak tests to increase coverage and decrease duplication and run times | 16:11 |
| eglute | i agree rockyg | 16:11 |
| dwalleck | So, to make sure I'm doing the right thing, does what I'm doing match up with what we talked about in Austin? | 16:11 |
| eglute | i also think we can use it for analysis what we want in defcore tests | 16:11 |
| markvoelker | dwalleck: yes, this looks useful to me | 16:11 |
| gema_ | dwalleck: definitely very useful, we can see gaps (not only good/bad test cases) | 16:12 |
| dwalleck | Good deal! Then I'll keep going down that path. I think slowrie and I are pretty close to done | 16:13 |
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| eglute | i think this really illustrates the need for defcore to own the tests. perhaps as a defcore tempest plugin. what does everyone think? | 16:13 |
| hogepodge | eglute: why? | 16:13 |
| gema_ | dwalleck: I am a bit worried that some like line 564 don't have output | 16:13 |
| eglute | why which part? | 16:13 |
| gema_ | dwalleck: not sure how to interpret that | 16:13 |
| hogepodge | eglute: I don't see how defcore having to "own" the tests follows | 16:13 |
| dwalleck | gema_: If I'm thinking of the right issue, that test may not have any HTTP requests. It may just be doing SSH work | 16:14 |
| dwalleck | Ideally we'd have the asserts in here too, but that's phase 2 :) | 16:14 |
| gema_ | dwalleck: ok, will look into it, what if it is using a client, would it show up? | 16:14 |
| eglute | right now we are dependent on these tests, that are part of the gate, etc. if we pull them into our own plugin, we could start fixing them, making them more atomic | 16:15 |
| gema_ | eglute: or we could do that leaving them in place also | 16:15 |
| hogepodge | eglute: the tests aren't broken. | 16:15 |
| dwalleck | eglute: I think with the list of potential refactors in hand, we can have a good conversation with the QA team to see if they find them useful | 16:15 |
| eglute | the tests are not atomic. and not testing interop. | 16:15 |
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| hogepodge | eglute: and nothing is stopping anyone fron contributing to tempest directly. It's what the tempest team wants | 16:15 |
| catherineD | I see that the auto generated report provides a good statistic on the API usages. The manual report describes the tests themself. Both are useful. How could we scale to generate the manual report for all tests? | 16:16 |
| rockyg | dwalleck, | 16:16 |
| rockyg | == | 16:16 |
| rockyg | ++ | 16:16 |
| hogepodge | plus, we don't gate on plugins (yet) | 16:16 |
| hogepodge | so a tempest plugin would not have the advantage of hundreds of tests running every day on every patch. Tempest has that directly | 16:16 |
| eglute | we could have defcore gate job, no? either voting or non-voting? | 16:17 |
| dwalleck | hogepodge: There's definitely more going on here than interop. Some of them don't even test what they say there's testing (The AutoDisk/ManualDisk config tests don't actually test anything related to disk size and partition schema) | 16:17 |
| rockyg | also to add to what hogepodge says, it makes it very easy for our tests to diverge from tempest/gate tests and functionality | 16:18 |
| dwalleck | We can try to fix them, but that's assuming the QA team agrees with the aspect of keeping tests atomic | 16:18 |
| catherineD | dwalleck: Is the a plan to auto generate the report this is generated maually ? | 16:18 |
| dwalleck | catherineD: Yes, but that's a bit more work | 16:18 |
| hogepodge | dwalleck: I'm arguing to not throw away a valuable resource in tempest. If there's a weakness in the test suite, I want it fixed in the most effective way. Throwing away years of work and a highly functioning team is not the way to go about fixing the issues | 16:18 |
| gema_ | hogepodge: +1 | 16:18 |
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| docaedo | If a test is supposed to do something, but it doesn't, we shouldn't we be working on fixing the actual test, not making a different one somewhere else? | 16:18 |
| dwalleck | hodgepodge: I'm not advocating to throw it away. I'm talking about growing it forward | 16:19 |
| rockyg | I think QA is swamped and needs help, but right now they are trying to fix framework issues. If they had people to help with framework, they could review and accept more tests | 16:19 |
| hogepodge | docaedo: fix the test upstream, or add a new test to the existing test suite. | 16:19 |
| eglute | hogepodge i am not suggesting we depart from tempest... i am thinking of a tempest plugin, starting with existing tests. | 16:19 |
| gema_ | eglute: what is the benefit of that | 16:19 |
| dwalleck | And I think that I have to demonstrate at least some examples of the issues I'm discussing for this discussion to have any meaning | 16:19 |
| gema_ | vs keeping them in tempest? | 16:19 |
| docaedo | hogepodge: yes, I agree - work with tempest directly | 16:19 |
| hogepodge | eglute: no, that's a fork, and a fork is not in the spirit of open collaboration | 16:20 |
| catherineD | I think that these reports can at the minimum help DefCore to have an in-sight to the tests ... at least they are useful in the selection of the must-pass tests | 16:20 |
| docaedo | oh I typeoed - we SHOULD be working on fixing the actual test I meant | 16:20 |
| rockyg | A spec from defcore for how to atomize (heheh) tests that defcore needs would go a long way in broadcasting both our needs and intentions for *tempest* tests | 16:20 |
| dwalleck | rockyg: To rocky's point, if we defined a spec backwards from the tests as is right now, you'd have a lot of noise | 16:21 |
| gema_ | dwalleck: we should define the spec regardless of the tests | 16:21 |
| gema_ | and then make the tests match the spec | 16:21 |
| dwalleck | If these tests are the strict guidelines of what defcore is, then they need to be strict and concise | 16:21 |
| rockyg | We need to support Qa, not go aroun it. At least where it makes sense. We should fix the tests that are important to us and are in tempest before we go and start a new test project | 16:21 |
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| dwalleck | My concern is that a functional test doesn't always equal a defcore test. I don't want to compromise what we're testing based on functional testing | 16:22 |
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| dwalleck | For example, the suggestion to remove all negative tests from Tempest | 16:23 |
| rockyg | Let's first attempt to refactor/fix what we use, then we can discuss expanding/changing. I think simply acting on the analysis will take stress off both defcore and QA | 16:23 |
| gema_ | I think we are talking how to fix an issue that we don't even know if we have or what the extent of it is until dwalleck finishes the analysis | 16:23 |
| rockyg | dwalleck, ++ | 16:23 |
| rockyg | gema ++ | 16:23 |
| gema_ | dwalleck: we'll have to talk to them about negative tests then | 16:24 |
| dwalleck | Which I think now has been tabled, but could have heavily impacted DefCore. For my own sake outside of DefCore or gating, I would've made my own plugin repo because I use those tests | 16:24 |
| hogepodge | dwalleck: I'm not disagreeing that we can't have better api tests. I am disagreeing that we run off on our own with a plugin. It will be met with resistance, and part of our mandate is to be community driven. It's good analysis, but it does not follow that tempest must be abandoned, especially when they want to work with us | 16:24 |
| catherineD | gema_: ++ At the minimum dwalleck: 's complete reports can let DefCore knows the typed of must pass test chosen today | 16:24 |
| eglute | perhaps i misunderstand the tempest plugins. just trying to figure out how we can have better tests without running into various barriers that were brought up during midcycle and other discussions. | 16:24 |
| rockyg | I think defcore/QA need a join design summit session | 16:24 |
| markvoelker | hogepodge: genereally I'm ++ on working with the existing tests when possible. I really don't want to get into the business of having two definitions for what defines "working" for any given feature. | 16:25 |
| gema_ | eglute: we are not running into any barriers afaik we are not writing tests yet | 16:25 |
| gema_ | or are we? | 16:25 |
| dwalleck | hogepodge: I'm not arguing that we run off and do something else. I'm saying I want to have this conversation with the QA team based on data and concepts | 16:25 |
| rockyg | markvoelker, exactly | 16:25 |
| rockyg | dwalleck, ++ | 16:25 |
| catherineD | dwalleck: we need to identify the set of tests to talk with QA | 16:26 |
| catherineD | and your reports provide that | 16:26 |
| rockyg | Let's see if we can schedule a discussion session with QA, then also a working session after to demo what dwalleck is talking about. | 16:26 |
| dwalleck | At the end of the day, any of my analysis is my opinion. I'm not going to run off and work in a silo. But I think these are things worth discussing | 16:26 |
| gema_ | dwalleck: absolutely | 16:26 |
| eglute | +1 on having a session with the QA team. | 16:27 |
| hogepodge | dwalleck: I'm not disagreeing about that | 16:27 |
| rockyg | POC. any chance we could have a single/few tests refactored based on your tool analysis by summit? | 16:27 |
| gema_ | dwalleck: but the more we can engage QA in the discussion and in the improvements / interop requirements, the better | 16:27 |
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| markvoelker | So dwalleck: perhaps with the Summit just around the corner that would be a good time to circle up w/QA? | 16:28 |
| markvoelker | That would give you some time to wrap up your analysis | 16:28 |
| markvoelker | And for the rest of us to digest it | 16:28 |
| dwalleck | to a lot of people: yes, I'm just talking about the analysis and a few examples to help drive the possible discussion with QA. I think I've talked a lot about of these issues, and I think one or two examples would provide context | 16:28 |
| catherineD | dwalleck: ++ | 16:29 |
| gema_ | +1 | 16:29 |
| rockyg | ++ | 16:29 |
| luzC | ++ | 16:29 |
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| eglute | #action markvoelker hogepodge eglute dwalleck schedule design session with QA team during the summit | 16:29 |
| dwalleck | And if the decision is to do nothing, that's fine :) | 16:29 |
| catherineD | Let single in one or two example and clearly acticulate why DefCore likes and does not like the tests. | 16:30 |
| eglute | i think so far everyone agrees that the analysis is great and want to see it done on all tests | 16:30 |
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| hogepodge | dwalleck: that report is very valuable, it's useful to see the sequence of events that happens in a test. I'm really happy about it | 16:30 |
| catherineD | eglute: yes | 16:30 |
| eglute | +1 catherineD suggestion too | 16:30 |
| eglute | and it sounds like everyone would like a discussion with the QA team as well, correct? | 16:31 |
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| dwalleck | Thanks for the spirited discussion :) I have to duck out, but I'll follow up with an email in a bit | 16:31 |
| eglute | dwalleck has links to scripts on the etherpad | 16:31 |
| rockyg | eglute, ++ | 16:31 |
| markvoelker | thanks dwalleck | 16:31 |
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| eglute | now that we ran him off, time for next topic :) | 16:32 |
| dwalleck | thanks folks! | 16:32 |
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| eglute | #topic scoring | 16:32 |
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| eglute | markvoelker, i will hand this off to you :) | 16:32 |
| markvoelker | Patches have been posted for Neutron and for moving the existing advisory capabilities to required per discussion at the midcycle | 16:32 |
| markvoelker | See etherpad for links | 16:32 |
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| markvoelker | On the Neutron side, after speaking with the PTL we actually found one test currently in advisory that needs to be dropped as uses admin privs | 16:33 |
| eglute | Subnet pools: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296426/ | 16:33 |
| markvoelker | Patch for that is up and listed in the etherpad too | 16:33 |
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| eglute | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/295313/ which removes an admin test from advisory | 16:33 |
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| markvoelker | I'm actually not going to propose any new capabilities for Neutron this time...we did a pretty big addition last time, so we're fairly "caught up" | 16:33 |
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| markvoelker | The best candidate was subnet pools, but after investigating it's going to fall short on a couple of criteria. | 16:34 |
| markvoelker | I've posted a patch the scoring sheet with some of those findings so we'll have the info for next time...I think it's a capability we'll add down the road, just not quite yet. | 16:34 |
| markvoelker | So with that: remember that we need to get all remaining scoring patches posted in the next few days! | 16:35 |
| hogepodge | I'm going to be suggesting new capabilities for object storage/swift. I'll also test the swift plugin to see if it can be run from tempest. I don't think that can land this time around, it seems partially done | 16:35 |
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| hogepodge | plus new capabilities for cinder, some things we missed in the last round of scoring. no new information there. | 16:36 |
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| markvoelker | hogepodge: thanks. Let us know when patches are up. =) | 16:36 |
| markvoelker | I think dwalleck had to step out, but from the etherpad it looks like he's ID'd some possible additions for Nova | 16:36 |
| catherineD | hogepodge: RefStack supports running with tempes plugin now ... it woudl be great if you use RefStack and let us know if there is issue | 16:36 |
| markvoelker | gema: anything you need help with on Keystone? | 16:37 |
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| hogepodge | catherineD: +1 | 16:37 |
| catherineD | hogepodge: thx | 16:37 |
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| gema_ | markvoelker: sorry, was commenting on your patch | 16:38 |
| gema_ | I have only one question | 16:38 |
| gema_ | can I add tests from keystone tempest plugin? | 16:38 |
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| gema_ | or consider tests, rather | 16:39 |
| markvoelker | gema_: RefStack should support running tests via tempest plugin now | 16:39 |
| gema_ | (I see scoring doesn't need fixes to the json just yet, right?) | 16:39 |
| gema_ | markvoelker: alright, will do then | 16:39 |
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| gema_ | consider those capabilities as well :) | 16:39 |
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| markvoelker | gema_: Well, that depends...if you have a capability that you think scores high enough to be included, you should also add it to the json in the patch | 16:39 |
| markvoelker | I didn't for the Neutron one because I don't think it'll make the cut | 16:40 |
| gema_ | markvoelker: what is high enough? | 16:40 |
| gema_ | (in your experience) | 16:41 |
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| markvoelker | gema_: WE've generally used 74 as a rough cutoff | 16:41 |
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| markvoelker | Errr, >74 that is | 16:42 |
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| gema_ | alright, will send the patch then soon, please review in depth as I have never done this before | 16:42 |
| markvoelker | gema_: sure thing | 16:42 |
| gema_ | markvoelker: thanks! | 16:42 |
| markvoelker | Anyone else with scoring updates? | 16:42 |
| markvoelker | Ok then. Let's get those patches in folks. =) | 16:43 |
| markvoelker | #topic Update refstack-client to latest Tempest | 16:43 |
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| markvoelker | catherineD: was this your topic? | 16:44 |
| catherineD | yes | 16:44 |
| markvoelker | The floor is yours madame. =) | 16:44 |
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| catherineD | thx. Any recommendation of which SHA we should use? | 16:44 |
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| catherineD | or should I just take the latest ... QA has not pulished an official tag version yet | 16:45 |
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| markvoelker | catherineD: I haven't tested in a few weeks at least so I don't think I have a SHA recommendation at the moment. I usually use latest though, personally. | 16:46 |
| catherineD | Ok .. once we identify a SHA I will check the test names against the JSON file ... I expect some changes in the test names | 16:46 |
| catherineD | do we want to document which SHA is used in DefCore? | 16:47 |
| rockyg | yeah, mtreinish already talked about a number of changes | 16:47 |
| catherineD | Is there a place to hold the SHA name? | 16:47 |
| markvoelker | catherineD: we actually don't have an official SHA to use per the interop site | 16:47 |
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| rockyg | markvoelker, being able to have a sha for a working set of tests is good, though | 16:48 |
| rockyg | it gives folks with issues a known good place to start debugging their setp | 16:49 |
| markvoelker | rockyg: Sure. Whenever I've noticed that the refstack default isn't working for some reason, I've submitted a patch to refstck to update it's default | 16:49 |
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| markvoelker | rockyg: See https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203077/ for example | 16:50 |
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| markvoelker | I think what catherineD is asking is whether anyone knows of a reason to update that to something newer right now...which I don't. =) | 16:50 |
| rockyg | thanks, markvoelker | 16:51 |
| eglute | not me. catherineD i trust your decision here | 16:51 |
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| rockyg | yeah. wait until scores and capabilities firm up. we have time | 16:52 |
| catherineD | Ok... I will update RefStack to the latest version of Tempest ... our current version is September , 2015 ... time to update | 16:52 |
| markvoelker | catherineD: I think we have some folks running tests in the next couple of weeks, so I'll ask them to use latest and let me know if they run into any problems. Will relay to you if they find anything. | 16:53 |
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| catherineD | markvoelker: great ... | 16:53 |
| gema_ | catherineD: do you do testing around that? | 16:53 |
| catherineD | gema_: yes | 16:53 |
| gema_ | catherineD: ++ thanks! | 16:53 |
| markvoelker | Ok, anything else on this topic? | 16:54 |
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| catherineD | I have 3 environment of different OpenStack release to test | 16:54 |
| catherineD | no from me | 16:54 |
| eglute | sounds like we can end a few minutes early | 16:54 |
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| gema_ | \o/ | 16:54 |
| eglute | thanks everyone!!! | 16:55 |
| eglute | #endmeeting | 16:55 |
| gema_ | thank you guys | 16:55 |
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| catherineD | thank you | 16:55 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2016/defcore.2016-03-23-16.00.html | 16:55 |
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| rockyg | thanks! | 16:55 |
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