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anil_rao | we will start the TaaS meeting in 5 min' | 06:25 |
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yamamoto | hi | 06:30 |
anil_rao | #startmeeting taas | 06:30 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 17 06:30:08 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is anil_rao. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 06:30 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 06:30 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'taas' | 06:30 |
kaz | hi | 06:30 |
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anil_rao | Hi | 06:30 |
vasubabu | hi | 06:30 |
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fawadkhaliq | hello folks | 06:31 |
anil_rao | Looks like there is only one topic today | 06:31 |
anil_rao | Shall we get started | 06:31 |
anil_rao | #topic tap-service-create specify dest port or create destination port | 06:32 |
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reedip | anil_rao: whats your take on this? | 06:33 |
anil_rao | I notice that the latest version of the spec is suggesting that tap-service-create create the destination port | 06:33 |
reedip | anil_rao : yup , thats right | 06:33 |
fawadkhaliq | I think both should be supported. | 06:33 |
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fawadkhaliq | There is no harm, is there? | 06:34 |
anil_rao | Actually, this is not how it is currently supported (as the spec seems to suggest). | 06:34 |
anil_rao | One problem I see is this (let me explain) | 06:34 |
anil_rao | If tap-service-create were to instantiate the destination port, there would be no monitoring VM at that time. | 06:34 |
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anil_rao | So the port doesn't really get bound to a compute node. Later then the monitoring VM is instantiated and consumes that port we will need a callback in order to place the flows for receiving traffic on the host where the destination port is bound | 06:35 |
anil_rao | Not saying that this can't be done but the current implementaion has taken the easy route of working with an existing port that is already being used by the monitoring VM. | 06:36 |
anil_rao | I am curious to know what workflow folks expect to see when tap-service-create instantiates the destination port. | 06:37 |
fawadkhaliq | anil_rao: makes sense. We will probably have to support this anyway later because an operator may attach detach VM ports any time. | 06:37 |
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fawadkhaliq | since the functionality is there, no worries. From design perspective, we keep it in and track the lack of support via a bug report maybe and release note? | 06:38 |
fawadkhaliq | s/is there/is not there/ | 06:38 |
yamamoto | anil_rao: do you mean the current impl is relying on the VM being launched beforehand? | 06:39 |
anil_rao | yamamoto: Yes | 06:39 |
yamamoto | it sounds like a bug | 06:39 |
anil_rao | I do not fully understand what it means to create a tap-service instance before the monitoring VM is instantiated. | 06:39 |
anil_rao | Ideally I'd like to see multiple tap-service instances sending traffic to the same destination port (and thereby to the same monitoring VM) | 06:40 |
anil_rao | How can we achieve this if every tap-service instance creates its own destination port? | 06:41 |
fawadkhaliq | Since TaaS interfaces with the Neutron port resource, dependency on VM presence is really outside the scope and it will be hard to enforce such a workflow. | 06:42 |
fawadkhaliq | From user perspective, I don't see how TaaS can enforce it at the code level | 06:42 |
anil_rao | Well, we cannot deliver traffic to a port that is not consumed by some entity. What am I missing here? | 06:42 |
yamamoto | anyway let's concentrate to finish "the easy route" right now | 06:42 |
fawadkhaliq | So lets say.. | 06:43 |
fawadkhaliq | User creates a port (not attached to any VM) and then create TaaS service, we will still have the same problem | 06:43 |
anil_rao | We can fail tap-service-create if the port is not bound to some host. Just a thought | 06:43 |
yamamoto | fawadkhaliq: right | 06:44 |
fawadkhaliq | anil_rao: agree and understand the limitation. Do you think from API design perspective we should block it? | 06:44 |
anil_rao | My question is this: Someone creates a tap-service instance, there is no consumer of the destination port and tap-flows are attached to it. Where and how to we move packets to the destination port. | 06:45 |
fawadkhaliq | anil_rao: in the reference implementation, we can return an error from the TaaS backend (agent etc). | 06:45 |
fawadkhaliq | anil_rao: as you mentioned, requirement would be to make sure port is bound is to something. So an error can raised until it is supported to have update_port implemented as well. | 06:46 |
anil_rao | We can return an error but I want to know what folks feel about this situation. Do folks agree that we need a consumer of the destination port for the tap-service to be functional | 06:46 |
reedip | anil_rao : if we want to limit the use-cases for Mitaka Release, I think we should have a consumer of the port for Tap-service to be operational | 06:47 |
anil_rao | What about the long term solution. I wanted to understand what it means for a (floating) destination port to be associated with a tap-service instance. | 06:47 |
reedip | fawadkhaliq, yamamoto: what you are saying is correct, but we can update it in the next iteration of TaaS, keeping the following behavior, sort of a limited release. | 06:48 |
fawadkhaliq | reedip: anil_rao sure, no issues on what we have right now :-) | 06:48 |
yamamoto | file a bug, document the limitation for now. i guess it can be fixed by using the existing handle_port callback | 06:49 |
fawadkhaliq | yamamoto: +1 | 06:49 |
-openstackstatus- NOTICE: A problem with the mirror used for CI jobs in the rax-iad region has been corrected. Please recheck changes that recently failed jobs on nodes in rax-iad. | 06:49 | |
fawadkhaliq | thank you openstackstatus ;-) | 06:49 |
anil_rao | yamamoto: Can you please describe the workflow for the case where the destination port is not claimed. | 06:50 |
yamamoto | my expectation for that situation is that packets are just dropped. | 06:51 |
fawadkhaliq | anil_rao: here is a use-case I can of | 06:51 |
fawadkhaliq | user create TaaS service with a particular port and it stays static. Operator chooses to move the port around because let's say there is upgrade in the VM (destination) or replacement has to be done. In this case, a simple detach and attach will work without changing anything in TaaS and in the time period when port is not connected, packet will be dropped. | 06:53 |
anil_rao | yamamoto: We will then also need logic to ensure that we don't mirror (duplicate) packets. Dropping after duplicating can be very wasteful, especially if there are a lot of tap-flows assocaited with a tap-service | 06:53 |
fawadkhaliq | anil_rao: agree on that and optimization will need to added. | 06:54 |
fawadkhaliq | to be added* | 06:54 |
yamamoto | anil_rao: agreed | 06:55 |
reedip | anil_rao : that is true when considering long term implications | 06:55 |
anil_rao | I am therefore not seeing the real need for supporting such a scenario. I would sincerely appreciate some reasoning behind going this route. I mean what do we gain from supporting a floating destination port | 06:55 |
anil_rao | Perhaps we can discuss this later, if necessary. :-) | 06:56 |
reedip | anil_rao: +1 ( for later discussion as this may be a major use-case ) | 06:56 |
fawadkhaliq | floating port is an internal concept anyway and no relationship with the API at this point, right? | 06:56 |
fawadkhaliq | block can be implemented at the agent layer | 06:57 |
reedip | fawadkhaliq: I guess yes | 06:57 |
anil_rao | If we just look at the API definition that is correct. However, I would like to think that our API represents something more tangible, hence my question. Please pardon me if I am off base here | 06:57 |
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anil_rao | There is another thing that I wanted to discuss. | 06:59 |
anil_rao | I created a DevStack setup, multi-node but I am having problems getting it up. My controller node complains that ovs-ofctl is not found although I don't intend to have the controller node be a part of the dataplane. Does anyone have any ideas of what may be going on? | 07:00 |
anil_rao | My local.conf used to work with earlier DevStack versions but not anymore. :-( | 07:00 |
vasubabu | which build | 07:01 |
vasubabu | ? | 07:01 |
anil_rao | Latest | 07:01 |
fawadkhaliq | anil_rao: I can share my local.conf, that works for me. | 07:01 |
vasubabu | i am using liberty | 07:02 |
anil_rao | fawadkhaliq: Thanks that would be great. | 07:02 |
fawadkhaliq | anil_rao: npp, will share shortly | 07:02 |
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anil_rao | Please note that I typically use separate nodes for controller, network and compute since I like to keep the dataplane separate from the controller node. | 07:03 |
anil_rao | yamamoto: I have a question regarding the local.conf setup for enabling TaaS | 07:03 |
yamamoto | ? | 07:05 |
anil_rao | does the instruction in README.rst under "devstack" work for multi-node setups? | 07:06 |
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yamamoto | taas_openvswitch_agent is only for the compute/network nodes | 07:07 |
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vasubabu | README.rst should be updated | 07:08 |
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yamamoto | and "taas" is for controller | 07:08 |
anil_rao | yamamoto: OK. Thanks. :-) | 07:08 |
yamamoto | otherwise i expect it works. but i haven't tried by myself. :-) | 07:08 |
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anil_rao | I should get around the DevStack setup issues tomorrow and then I'll have data to report back to the group. | 07:09 |
vasubabu | anil_rao: i have one question on taas standard tap flows | 07:10 |
anil_rao | vasubabu: Yes? | 07:10 |
vasubabu | In Multinode setup, if we bringup instance on compute node all standard tap flows created by taas_agent are getting deleted | 07:11 |
vasubabu | have u observe this issue | 07:11 |
vasubabu | ? | 07:11 |
anil_rao | vasubabu:Can you kindly elaborate on "bringup instance on compute node"? | 07:12 |
vasubabu | just spawn instance | 07:13 |
anil_rao | vasubabu: I have not observed this but I can surely verify this particular case as soon as my new setup is available. | 07:14 |
vasubabu | it is happening with 1st instance | 07:14 |
kaz | I found this. | 07:14 |
kaz | I have posted on gerrit. | 07:15 |
yamamoto | vasubabu: it sounds like a known "agent uuid cookie" bug | 07:15 |
kaz | yamamoto: yes | 07:16 |
yamamoto | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1525775 | 07:17 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1525775 in neutron "When ovs-agent is restarted flows creatd by other than ovs-agent are deleted." [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to SUZUKI, Kazuhiro (kaz-k) | 07:17 |
vasubabu | ok, is there any work around for this | 07:18 |
vasubabu | ? | 07:18 |
vasubabu | currently i am creating all flows using ovs-ofctl | 07:18 |
vasubabu | again | 07:18 |
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kaz | I posted workaround for it, but I cannot find the link. | 07:20 |
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anil_rao | Any other topics for discussion? | 07:21 |
anil_rao | #topic open | 07:22 |
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fawadk | sorry I missed a few minutes, whats the plan of action with the spec given its updated to original state | 07:22 |
yamamoto | anil_rao: can you consider to triage bugs or give a permission to someone? | 07:23 |
vasubabu | anil_rao: what if user trigger instance migration attached to tap-serivce/tap-flow port | 07:23 |
anil_rao | fawadk: I think one item that needs correction there is the issue of destionation port that we discussed today. | 07:23 |
fawadk | anil_rao: okay, let's take the discussion on the spec for that. | 07:24 |
anil_rao | yamamoto: Vinay and I will send eamil to the mailing list with recommendations for some more cores. I think that will help speed things up. | 07:24 |
anil_rao | We should get this started in the next day or so. | 07:24 |
fawadk | anil_rao: great, thanks | 07:25 |
yamamoto | anil_rao: LP bugs permission doesn't need to be tied to core reviewers. | 07:25 |
anil_rao | yamamoto: Sure. I agree. Feel free to triage the bugs. I'll do my part too. | 07:26 |
yamamoto | i don't have a permission to change priority etc | 07:26 |
anil_rao | We'll try to get that sorted out as soon as possible. | 07:27 |
yamamoto | anil_rao: thank you | 07:27 |
anil_rao | does anyone have anything new to share regarding the big-tent discussion? | 07:27 |
reedip | anil_rao: I think as the project is owned by vnyad, therefore, it might be difficult for triaging the bug | 07:28 |
anil_rao | reedip: We'll get that sorted out. | 07:28 |
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yamamoto | anil_rao: studium discussion is still in progress. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/275888/ | 07:29 |
anil_rao | yamamoto: Thanks. We should all keep an eye out for that discussion | 07:29 |
reedip | yamamoto: however, this has been merged : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/278025/3 | 07:30 |
anil_rao | We have run out of time. Thanks all. | 07:30 |
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yamamoto | reedip: sure | 07:30 |
anil_rao | Lets continue next week. | 07:30 |
yamamoto | bye | 07:30 |
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reedip | tc | 07:30 |
anil_rao | #endmeeting | 07:30 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 17 07:30:38 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 07:30 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2016/taas.2016-02-17-06.30.html | 07:30 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2016/taas.2016-02-17-06.30.txt | 07:30 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2016/taas.2016-02-17-06.30.log.html | 07:30 |
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anil_rao | Bye! | 07:30 |
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danoffek | hi | 08:41 |
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ifat_afek | #startmeeting vitrage | 09:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 17 09:00:51 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ifat_afek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'vitrage' | 09:00 |
eyalb | hi | 09:01 |
Nofarsch | hi | 09:01 |
idan_hefetz | Hi | 09:02 |
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alexey_weyl | Hello all :) | 09:03 |
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danoffek | hi again | 09:03 |
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amir_gur | Hi | 09:04 |
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emalin | hi | 09:05 |
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ifat_afek | Hi everyone :-) | 09:06 |
ifat_afek | #topic Current status | 09:06 |
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ifat_afek | Have a look at our wiki page, we added a presentation about vitrage, and we plan to add a demo of nagios alarms later today. | 09:07 |
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ifat_afek | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Vitrage | 09:07 |
ifat_afek | We reviewed our remaining work for mitaka, and split the blueprints between us | 09:07 |
ifat_afek | By mitaka-3 we hope to have rca working, and maybe also deduced alarms | 09:08 |
alexey_weyl | Thumbs up :) | 09:08 |
ifat_afek | We also want to support update notifications from nova; write the integration with aodh; and implement the entity graph UI | 09:08 |
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alexey_weyl | we plan also to add aodh notification and adding alarms to aodh | 09:09 |
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lhartal | hi all | 09:09 |
alexey_weyl | in addition we plan to improve our api handler | 09:09 |
Alon | hi :) | 09:09 |
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ifat_afek | my updates: I continued working on nagios synchronizer plugin and its transformer, specifically on unit tests and on the nagios configuration file | 09:12 |
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ifat_afek | I plan to update nagios blueprint with the latest design | 09:12 |
ifat_afek | Regarding aodh integration: In general, this integration has three parts: 1. get all alarms, 2. register to aodh notifications of alarm changes, 3. notify aodh of vitrage alarms | 09:13 |
ifat_afek | We plan to implement 1 and 3 | 09:13 |
ifat_afek | Number 2 is more complex, and vitrage can manage it in mitaka. I plan to finally finish writing aodh blueprints, and ask aodh guys to review them. | 09:13 |
ifat_afek | #action ifat update aodh blueprints | 09:13 |
ifat_afek | who wants to update? | 09:14 |
Alon | me :) | 09:14 |
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idan_hefetz | I will | 09:14 |
Nofarsch | me too :) | 09:14 |
emalin | ifat_afek did you mean 2 would be part of mitaka or not ? | 09:14 |
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idan_hefetz | Go ahead Alon | 09:15 |
ifat_afek | emalin: 2 probably won't be part of mitaka, since it will take too much time | 09:15 |
Alon | "Who wants to update ? " -> me | 09:15 |
ifat_afek | emalin: and we can have vitrage working without it, just with a delay in receiving aodh alarms | 09:15 |
Alon | We implemented a "smart table" for the alarms | 09:16 |
emalin | Ok. got it | 09:16 |
ifat_afek | Alon: go ahead :-) | 09:16 |
Alon | http://lorenzofox3.github.io/smart-table-website/ | 09:16 |
Alon | Now we can Sort + Filter alarms | 09:16 |
ifat_afek | Alon: please write #link and then the url, so it will appear in the meeting summary | 09:16 |
ifat_afek | saw it, it looks great! | 09:16 |
Alon | #link http://lorenzofox3.github.io/smart-table-website/ | 09:16 |
Alon | About the RCA... | 09:17 |
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Alon | We can already see a dummy mock on a modal window, and yesterday we succeeded to connect and see data from the API (mock data) | 09:17 |
Alon | That's all for now. any questions ? | 09:18 |
ifat_afek | Alon: thanks, sounds great | 09:18 |
emalin | That angular library looks very nice | 09:18 |
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ifat_afek | BTW, we should still define the exact information that should appear in the alarms list. | 09:18 |
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ifat_afek | #action define what information that should appear in the alarms list | 09:18 |
ifat_afek | idan_hefetz: you wanted to update? | 09:19 |
Alon | I prefer the ui-grid, but the Horizon use the Smart-Table | 09:19 |
Alon | #http://ui-grid.info/ | 09:19 |
ifat_afek | Alon: you forgot #link | 09:20 |
Alon | #link http://ui-grid.info/ | 09:20 |
idan_hefetz | Regarding the sub-graph matching algorithm, I'll just add a few more tests before pushing the code today | 09:20 |
idan_hefetz | My next blueprint is the Aodh-Notifier, a part of the integration with Aodh, to notify aodh of Vitrage alarms. | 09:20 |
ifat_afek | idan_hefetz: so sub graph matching is finished, all is left are the tests? | 09:20 |
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idan_hefetz | yes, so we can close the graph blueprint soon | 09:21 |
ifat_afek | idan_hefetz: cool! | 09:21 |
eyalb | I have an update | 09:21 |
eyalb | I finished the RCA api | 09:22 |
eyalb | wrote a mock for that | 09:22 |
eyalb | so the ui team can work on it | 09:22 |
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eyalb | I also updated the blueprint for the RCA | 09:22 |
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eyalb | waiting for feedback on the blueprint | 09:23 |
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eyalb | thats all | 09:23 |
ifat_afek | eyalb: great. I looked at it and it looks good. also sent it to PinPoint | 09:23 |
ayah | please add a link for the blupring | 09:23 |
ifat_afek | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243671/6 | 09:24 |
Nofarsch | I'm working on the synchronizer nova plugins for machines, hosts and zones | 09:24 |
Nofarsch | (for updating) | 09:25 |
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danoffek | RPC server is now executed as eventlet instead of threaded. Had to monkey patch it first for t | 09:26 |
danoffek | i | 09:26 |
ifat_afek | Nofarsch: you mean in addition to the snapshot mode that is already working, right? | 09:26 |
Nofarsch | yes | 09:26 |
ifat_afek | Nofarsch: great | 09:26 |
danoffek | monkey patched it for it to be non blocking and "green threaded" | 09:27 |
ifat_afek | danoffek: great, thanks | 09:27 |
ifat_afek | who else wants to update? | 09:27 |
lhartal | I have updates | 09:27 |
lhartal | Last week we had design review meeting for the Evaluator | 09:28 |
lhartal | The design included a full flow: | 09:28 |
lhartal | 1. Entity graph updates the evaluator processor | 09:28 |
lhartal | 2. The processor search for the relevant scenarios in the Scenarios Repository and execute sub-graph matching algorithm | 09:28 |
lhartal | 3. the evaluator processes the sub-graph matching results and executes actions as needed | 09:29 |
lhartal | Also we talked about the template loading, its parsing and the scenarios repository | 09:29 |
lhartal | any questions? | 09:29 |
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ifat_afek | lhartal: sounds good, what's the status of the implementation? | 09:30 |
lhartal | Last week I implemented the template loader and this week I’m going to work on the scenarios repository | 09:30 |
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lhartal | also we already defined all the intefaces between the different components | 09:31 |
ifat_afek | lhartal: good. is the design documented? we should have a .rst file with the design | 09:31 |
lhartal | we wrote the design. we just need to publish it | 09:31 |
ifat_afek | lhartal: great, thanks | 09:32 |
ifat_afek | #action document the evaluator design and add a link to vitrage wiki page | 09:32 |
ifat_afek | any other updates anyone? | 09:32 |
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ifat_afek | alexey_weyl: can you update about the status of the physical plugin static synchronizer? | 09:33 |
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alexey_weyl | The Physical plugin is finished. | 09:34 |
alexey_weyl | It has tests and it looks good :) | 09:34 |
ifat_afek | alexey_weyl: great! is it documented? | 09:34 |
alexey_weyl | Not yet | 09:35 |
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ifat_afek | alexey_weyl: so please write a .rst file for the configuration files with examples, and then we can put it in our wiki | 09:35 |
alexey_weyl | No problem :) | 09:35 |
ifat_afek | #action alexey_weyl document the physical configuration static plugin | 09:36 |
ifat_afek | any other updates anyone? | 09:36 |
ifat_afek | #topic Review action items | 09:37 |
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ifat_afek | there were no action items last week | 09:37 |
ifat_afek | moving on... | 09:37 |
ifat_afek | #topic Next Steps | 09:37 |
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ifat_afek | we already talked about our plans for mitaka-3 | 09:38 |
ifat_afek | #topic Open Discussion | 09:38 |
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ifat_afek | anyone wants to discuss anything? | 09:38 |
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ifat_afek | so I guess we are done for today | 09:40 |
ifat_afek | goodbye everybody | 09:40 |
eyalb | bye | 09:40 |
danoffek | bye | 09:40 |
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Alon | bye, Thanks | 09:40 |
Nofarsch | bye :) | 09:40 |
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alexey_weyl | see ya :) | 09:41 |
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ifat_afek | #endmeeting | 09:41 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 17 09:41:25 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:41 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2016/vitrage.2016-02-17-09.00.html | 09:41 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2016/vitrage.2016-02-17-09.00.txt | 09:41 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2016/vitrage.2016-02-17-09.00.log.html | 09:41 |
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robcresswell | Right, lets continue anyway. | 12:04 |
robcresswell | Only notice is a reminder about deadlines | 12:05 |
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robcresswell | 2 weeks today | 12:05 |
robcresswell | Until M-3 releases. We need to make sure bps are complete and ready for review. Start pestering cores if you need to. | 12:06 |
itxaka | yay, pestering cores \o/ | 12:06 |
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robcresswell | Any other notices before we move on to the agenda? | 12:06 |
betherly | yay IRC has let me into the meeting! | 12:06 |
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robcresswell | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Horizon#Agenda_for_2016-02-17_12_UTC | 12:07 |
robcresswell | #topic d_o_a stable releases for kilo/liberty | 12:08 |
robcresswell | Urgh none of this is going to work is it. | 12:08 |
doug-fish | :-) | 12:08 |
robcresswell | mrunge: You're up :) | 12:08 |
mrunge | uhm, on a call currently | 12:08 |
mrunge | itxaka | 12:08 |
mrunge | ? | 12:09 |
itxaka | yeah | 12:09 |
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robcresswell | itxaka, can you speak about the agenda items? | 12:09 |
itxaka | basically regarding the patches linked in the agenda, tsufiev showed concern on the release timing for them | 12:09 |
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itxaka | and its a concern that we should all share | 12:09 |
tsufiev | itxaka, me? | 12:10 |
itxaka | doa should make a stable release for kilo and liberty | 12:10 |
tsufiev | itxaka, ah, got it | 12:10 |
tsufiev | yes, I did :) | 12:10 |
itxaka | and then a horizon liberty/kilo release should also follow with a new constraint on doa version to avoid any issues | 12:10 |
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itxaka | basically a horizon patch needs a specific new doa version with some backports already merged or it will introduce a known bug | 12:12 |
robcresswell | Sounds reasonable | 12:13 |
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mrunge | this reads to me like: release a now doa version for kilo, then increase global requirements and then finally patch horizon | 12:13 |
itxaka | so Im guessing release new doa version for kilo/liberty -> bump the requirements for doa in horizon kilo/liberty -> release new horizon version for kilo/liberty | 12:13 |
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itxaka | I dont have it very clear how the release process works and so on, so thats the main concern for me | 12:14 |
mrunge | does anyone of you have other patches in the queue for doa in kilo/liberty? | 12:14 |
mrunge | itxaka, either david-lyle or I should take care of that | 12:15 |
robcresswell | Best people to speak to are david-lyle and lhcheng | 12:15 |
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itxaka | releasing the doa version should be no problem thanks to a david-lyle patch that fixes backwards compatibility https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1526572 | 12:15 |
mrunge | worst thing with releases is, process changes from release to release | 12:15 |
robcresswell | As as we're careful, I don't imagine there should be any huge issues. It's just a stable bugfix release. | 12:16 |
mrunge | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseTeam/How_To_Release | 12:16 |
robcresswell | famous last words... | 12:16 |
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mrunge | I'd be tagging doa release tomorrow then, if nothing else comes up | 12:17 |
itxaka | I think the workflow of doa -> bump reqs in horizon -> horizon should alliviate any concers tsufiev ? | 12:18 |
tsufiev | itxaka, no, just a little note: bump reqs in openstack/requirements, not in horizon | 12:18 |
tsufiev | then proposal bot will propose a requirements patch into horizon | 12:19 |
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itxaka | sounds good to me | 12:19 |
itxaka | mrunge, this affects the liberty branch as well, patches are all merged in liberty (doa and horizon) | 12:20 |
mrunge | ack | 12:20 |
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robcresswell | That's the only agenda items | 12:21 |
robcresswell | So: open discussion | 12:22 |
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robcresswell | Anyone have any topics? Or we can have some time back :) | 12:24 |
mrunge | masco? | 12:24 |
mrunge | sigh | 12:24 |
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r1chardj0n3s | hum, I disappeared for a bit there | 12:25 |
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r1chardj0n3s | hope I didn't miss anything | 12:25 |
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mrunge | not really, r1chardj0n3s | 12:25 |
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robcresswell | Nothing much | 12:26 |
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robcresswell | Anything you wanted to discuss? Otherwise I'm gonna call it | 12:26 |
r1chardj0n3s | might be worthwhile reminding folks of https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/horizon-mitaka-midcycle | 12:26 |
mrunge | call it then... | 12:26 |
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r1chardj0n3s | reckon we might have a busy enough few days just trying to move code thru that's in play | 12:26 |
r1chardj0n3s | but just in case there's something you'd like to talk about | 12:26 |
r1chardj0n3s | (like angular patch size ;-) | 12:27 |
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robcresswell | Yeah, I think we'll be focusing on paired coding and reviews it seems | 12:27 |
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mrunge | oh, would it be possible to loop external folks in to midcycle? | 12:27 |
r1chardj0n3s | also, there's a global bugbash coming up | 12:27 |
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mrunge | angular patch size is indeed a concern of mine | 12:27 |
robcresswell | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/OpenStack-Bug-Smash-Mitaka | 12:27 |
r1chardj0n3s | thanks robcresswell | 12:28 |
robcresswell | Good point. So this is very similar to our Horizon bug days | 12:28 |
r1chardj0n3s | feel free to pop over to Sydney and smash some bugs with us ... or go somewhere more local ;-) | 12:28 |
robcresswell | It would be good to get involved in the bug day. I'll be at the London location for at least a couple of the days | 12:28 |
r1chardj0n3s | robcresswell: say hi to Alex, who just joined the London office from Brisbane. She says it's cold over there. Who'd have thought. | 12:29 |
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robcresswell | Ha, bad decision :p | 12:29 |
r1chardj0n3s | anyway, I don't have anything further, thanks | 12:30 |
r1chardj0n3s | going to bed before midnight sounds nice | 12:30 |
mrunge | masco, you had something to discuss? | 12:30 |
mrunge | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255854/# | 12:30 |
masco | mrunge, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255854/ i need ppl opinion on this | 12:31 |
masco | oh you are faster then me | 12:31 |
mrunge | hr hr hr | 12:31 |
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mrunge | with that being said, I have to leave, unfortunately :P | 12:31 |
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mrunge | it was about to collect feedback, thoughts etc. | 12:32 |
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mrunge | it seems to be a good addition, but some disagreement on implementation | 12:32 |
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robcresswell | masco: Just reading | 12:32 |
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robcresswell | Yep reading comments | 12:34 |
doug-fish | David's suggestion seems good to me - does somebody not like that? | 12:34 |
tsufiev | masco, btw, what are your further plans on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/261930/ ? | 12:34 |
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masco | i hope performance wise there will not be much problem | 12:34 |
masco | tsufiev, i think instead of deleting the field just hiding will help. am i right? | 12:35 |
tsufiev | masco, yes, should be a good approach | 12:35 |
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masco | since integration needs the shared field | 12:35 |
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masco | ok will submit a patch for that | 12:36 |
tsufiev | masco, awesome :) | 12:36 |
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masco | tsufiev, :) even i too got this today | 12:36 |
robcresswell | Er, why is an individual user get memoized? | 12:36 |
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robcresswell | Just scanning. | 12:36 |
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robcresswell | I mean this seems like the memoized part is irrelevant if you're making multiple individual calls | 12:37 |
robcresswell | the id would change, no? | 12:37 |
masco | robcresswell, can change | 12:38 |
masco | i mean for different users | 12:38 |
robcresswell | It seems like it would be poor peformance would it not? just making api calls for each user | 12:38 |
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robcresswell | As David noted. | 12:39 |
masco | yes, if each user is different | 12:39 |
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robcresswell | I guess it depends on no. of users per instance. Hmm.. | 12:39 |
masco | but practically it won't | 12:39 |
robcresswell | Yeah, it shouldnt be huge. | 12:40 |
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masco | yes | 12:40 |
masco | so no worry for performance ;) | 12:40 |
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robcresswell | Better speak with david then :) | 12:41 |
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masco | robcresswell, sure. thanks. please add your points on it. | 12:41 |
masco | it will help for future reference :) | 12:42 |
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robcresswell | Anyone else with discussion points? | 12:44 |
robcresswell | masco: Sure | 12:44 |
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robcresswell | We'll end the meeting there, have 15 mins back :) | 12:45 |
masco | i don't have anything specific. but i just want request the core to review my QoS patches :) | 12:45 |
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atuvenie | o/ | 13:01 |
sagar_nikam | Hi All | 13:01 |
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abalutoiu | o/ | 13:02 |
alexpilotti | #startmeeting hyper-v | 13:02 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 17 13:02:17 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alexpilotti. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:02 |
lpetrut | hi | 13:02 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:02 |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'hyper_v' | 13:02 |
claudiub | o/ | 13:02 |
abalutoiu | hello | 13:02 |
sagar_nikam | Hi | 13:02 |
itoader | hi | 13:02 |
itoader | o/ | 13:03 |
alexpilotti | hey folks | 13:03 |
alexpilotti | #topic networing-hyperv patches | 13:03 |
alexpilotti | so most patches got approved | 13:03 |
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sagar_nikam | nice | 13:04 |
alexpilotti | we have only Sonu's patch pending | 13:04 |
claudiub | ^ merged. | 13:04 |
alexpilotti | SOnu's one too? perfect | 13:04 |
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alexpilotti | I saw your comments yesterday, but I didnt see the merge yet, great | 13:05 |
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alexpilotti | we have this one open: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/264235/ | 13:06 |
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claudiub | it was approved yesterday, but jenkins said no. ammended, reapproved. | 13:07 |
kvinod_ | Hi all | 13:08 |
alexpilotti | it's at top of the zuul queue now | 13:08 |
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alexpilotti | so should merge during the meeting, hopefully :) | 13:08 |
alexpilotti | ok that clears the networking-hyperv topic | 13:08 |
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alexpilotti | anything to add? | 13:08 |
kvinod_ | sorry to ask, but are we talking about neutron patches | 13:09 |
sagar_nikam | yes kvinod_: | 13:09 |
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alexpilotti | networking-hyperv patches | 13:10 |
alexpilotti | we said that everything got approved | 13:11 |
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alexpilotti | sagar_nikam, kvinod: ping | 13:14 |
sagar_nikam | alexpilotti: got disconnected | 13:14 |
sagar_nikam | back again | 13:14 |
kvinod | i m back | 13:14 |
kvinod | sorry internet issue | 13:14 |
kvinod | so are we still on bug discussion topic | 13:15 |
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kvinod | if so wanted to know when we are planning to get Enhanced RPC and Native thread patch merged | 13:15 |
alexpilotti | ok | 13:15 |
alexpilotti | kvinod: they all merged | 13:16 |
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kvinod | ok cool | 13:16 |
alexpilotti | kvinod: that was the initial discussion topic | 13:16 |
alexpilotti | kvinod: anything to add? | 13:16 |
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kvinod | nothing thanks | 13:17 |
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alexpilotti | next | 13:17 |
alexpilotti | #topic SG / VLAN random false outcome issue | 13:18 |
alexpilotti | abalutoiu_ is working on isolating the issue in a script to send to the MSFT product team | 13:18 |
alexpilotti | I'm stressing out the fact that this is a major issue | 13:19 |
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alexpilotti | as at the current stage we have a race condition not knowing if VLAN settings and or / SG are applied or not | 13:20 |
alexpilotti | happens very rarely, but during rally tests is the main reason for failures | 13:20 |
alexpilotti | anything to add? | 13:20 |
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alexpilotti | if not we can move on | 13:20 |
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alexpilotti | #topic Hyper-V cluster | 13:21 |
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alexpilotti | atuvenie: would you like to give a status update? | 13:22 |
atuvenie | yeah | 13:22 |
atuvenie | so the patches are up, we support smb volumes | 13:22 |
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atuvenie | and ovs (though I'm still not where I want with testing that ) | 13:22 |
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atuvenie | I have some tempest tests in my env, planning on writing some more so we don't have to do things manually | 13:23 |
sagar_nikam | atuvenie: can you share the patches | 13:24 |
atuvenie | 2 sec | 13:24 |
atuvenie | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/281115/ | 13:24 |
atuvenie | and the one related | 13:24 |
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atuvenie | the unit tests fail because of the related os-win patches are not in yet | 13:25 |
atuvenie | os-win one #https://review.openstack.org/#/c/276190/ | 13:25 |
sagar_nikam | ok | 13:25 |
atuvenie | needs to be updated with some fixes | 13:25 |
sagar_nikam | soem questions on cluster driver, if i can ask now | 13:26 |
atuvenie | yeah | 13:26 |
sagar_nikam | the last time when we saw the patch submitted by claudiub: that patch did not handle the nova DB update when MSCluster moves the VM to another host | 13:26 |
sagar_nikam | hope this patch has a fix for that | 13:27 |
atuvenie | yes of course | 13:27 |
sagar_nikam | ok | 13:27 |
atuvenie | every time the instance is moved to a new host, the instance object is updated and saved in the DB | 13:27 |
sagar_nikam | and since the nova DB gets updated ... we can trigger other nova operations like start/stop etc on the moved VM | 13:27 |
sagar_nikam | it should work | 13:28 |
sagar_nikam | could you try that ? | 13:28 |
atuvenie | start / stop on a moved vm? | 13:28 |
atuvenie | of course | 13:28 |
sagar_nikam | yes moved vm | 13:28 |
sagar_nikam | ok, thanks | 13:29 |
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sagar_nikam | we can test it, only issue ... we are on liberty. alexpilotti: any chance of a patch which backports the mitaka patch to liberty ? | 13:30 |
alexpilotti | sagar_nikam: about cluster? It's not on our plans as part of our community engagement at the moment | 13:30 |
alexpilotti | we are planning to do if any of our customers ask for it | 13:31 |
sagar_nikam | ok | 13:31 |
sagar_nikam | we may move to mitaka after couple on months, we will test it as soon as we move | 13:32 |
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alexpilotti | makes sense | 13:32 |
alexpilotti | anything else on this topic? | 13:32 |
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sagar_nikam | is it very difficult to backport ? are there too many changes apart from os-win ? | 13:33 |
alexpilotti | there are some significant changes in Nova and the Hyper-V driver | 13:34 |
sagar_nikam | ok | 13:34 |
sagar_nikam | we will test it as soon as we move to Mitaka | 13:34 |
sagar_nikam | will let you know when we start | 13:34 |
alexpilotti | it's not too difficult but surely not trivial | 13:34 |
sagar_nikam | ok | 13:35 |
sagar_nikam | in case you do it for any customer, let us know, we can test and provide feedback | 13:35 |
alexpilotti | sure, thanks! | 13:35 |
alexpilotti | moving on | 13:35 |
alexpilotti | #topic Hyper-V shielded VM | 13:36 |
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alexpilotti | this is another one of the major topics for Hyper-V in 2016 | 13:36 |
alexpilotti | we're working on it since quite a bit | 13:37 |
alexpilotti | itoader is quite well into the implementation and we'll have the patches ready for review quite soon | 13:37 |
alexpilotti | sagar_nikam is this something you guys are looking to have? | 13:38 |
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sagar_nikam | is it in WIN 2016 server version ? | 13:38 |
alexpilotti | 2016 on any SKU | 13:38 |
sagar_nikam | as of now we dont have WIN 2016 yet | 13:38 |
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alexpilotti | I mean, server SKU | 13:39 |
sagar_nikam | but yes, we would be intrested | 13:39 |
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sagar_nikam | whenever we move to WIN 2016 | 13:39 |
sagar_nikam | is there a BP | 13:39 |
sagar_nikam | have not seen it | 13:39 |
alexpilotti | we're waiting to send the updated BP spec | 13:40 |
sagar_nikam | ok, let us know when the spec is ready | 13:40 |
alexpilotti | as we prefer to wait for the next 2016 public preview | 13:40 |
sagar_nikam | we will check it | 13:40 |
sagar_nikam | also can you provide us the link from where we can get WIN 2016 | 13:41 |
alexpilotti | in order to avoid surprises in the feature's behaviour that require changes in the BP itself | 13:41 |
sagar_nikam | ok, got it, TP5 ? | 13:41 |
sagar_nikam | will it have the details | 13:41 |
itoader | With ws2016 comes the feature of vtpm which works as a virtual tmp for a vm. By adding a vtpm to a vm, there is the shielding option which based on some attestations, it allows only specific hosts to have access to that vm. | 13:41 |
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alexpilotti | #link https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter | 13:42 |
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alexpilotti | the current TP4 preview is available here ^ | 13:43 |
sagar_nikam | ok | 13:43 |
sagar_nikam | any idea when is TP5 ? | 13:43 |
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alexpilotti | nothing that I can comment publicly unfortunately :) | 13:44 |
alexpilotti | do you guys have any topic that you'd like to add to the agenda today? | 13:44 |
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sagar_nikam | ok | 13:45 |
sagar_nikam | freerdp | 13:45 |
sagar_nikam | can we discuss that, had some questions | 13:45 |
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alexpilotti | sure | 13:47 |
alexpilotti | #topic FreeRDP | 13:47 |
sagar_nikam | last meeting we started on it and could not complete | 13:48 |
sagar_nikam | freerdp-webconnect | 13:48 |
sagar_nikam | is what we need | 13:48 |
sagar_nikam | in hyperv | 13:48 |
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sagar_nikam | it can be installed on linux and windows | 13:48 |
sagar_nikam | what is the recommended option | 13:48 |
alexpilotti | correct | 13:48 |
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alexpilotti | we do most of the testing on Windows | 13:49 |
sagar_nikam | ok | 13:49 |
alexpilotti | also the binary release that we distribute is for Windows | 13:49 |
sagar_nikam | is linux version stable ? | 13:49 |
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alexpilotti | said that, we are constantly working on ensuring that wsgate works on Ubuntu 14.04 and CentOS / RHEL 7 | 13:50 |
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sagar_nikam | i did not find a debian for it, should it be installled only using code | 13:50 |
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sagar_nikam | i mean cloning the code and running the script to install it | 13:50 |
alexpilotti | we dont test on debian, but it's the same packaging as the ubuntu one | 13:50 |
sagar_nikam | the last debian is for ubuntu 12.04 | 13:50 |
sagar_nikam | on which version of ubuntu do you test ? | 13:51 |
alexpilotti | the main issues might be the dependencies | 13:51 |
alexpilotti | take a look at #link https://github.com/FreeRDP/FreeRDP-WebConnect | 13:51 |
sagar_nikam | do you install using .deb or using the script ? | 13:52 |
alexpilotti | and let us know | 13:52 |
alexpilotti | the recommended way is to build it, package it (create a deb in this case) and distribute the deb | 13:52 |
sagar_nikam | have seen that link | 13:52 |
sagar_nikam | the only install option on linux seems to be ./setup-all.sh | 13:52 |
sagar_nikam | no deb package is available | 13:53 |
sagar_nikam | is ti correct ? | 13:53 |
alexpilotti | no, you need to package it after the build | 13:53 |
sagar_nikam | the last deb works only on ubuntu 12.04 | 13:53 |
sagar_nikam | ok | 13:53 |
alexpilotti | we dont provide binary releases for linux | 13:53 |
sagar_nikam | so we need to package, got it | 13:53 |
alexpilotti | another point is that in a hyper-converged scenario we prefer to have wsgate running on the compute nodes | 13:53 |
sagar_nikam | anybody from freerdp community packages it ? | 13:54 |
alexpilotti | so this means that it's the Windows version running directly on Hyper-V | 13:54 |
sagar_nikam | on freerdp running on hyperv host | 13:54 |
alexpilotti | sagar_nikam: no, we are the maintainers for FreeRDP-WebConnect | 13:54 |
sagar_nikam | how many networks does the hyperv host have | 13:55 |
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sagar_nikam | do you do management and freerdp access on same network ? | 13:55 |
alexpilotti | depends | 13:55 |
alexpilotti | on the size of the deployment | 13:55 |
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alexpilotti | if bandwidth allows, they can share the same network | 13:55 |
sagar_nikam | we should not have tenant users accessing freerdp console on the same network which is used for managemtn | 13:55 |
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alexpilotti | then a separate VLAN overlay can help | 13:56 |
sagar_nikam | yes | 13:56 |
alexpilotti | or a completely separate physical network segment | 13:56 |
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sagar_nikam | but freerdp we can provide only 1 network | 13:56 |
sagar_nikam | in the conf file | 13:56 |
sagar_nikam | and when nova sends the IP | 13:57 |
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sagar_nikam | it will send a IP which the customer needs | 13:57 |
alexpilotti | you have the configuration for the keystone AUTH_URL | 13:57 |
sagar_nikam | to access the console | 13:57 |
alexpilotti | that can be on a separate network | 13:57 |
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alexpilotti | wsgate can listen on a specific network, instead of 0.0.0.0 | 13:57 |
alexpilotti | note: 2' to meeting end | 13:58 |
alexpilotti | so you can separate management from rdp | 13:58 |
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sagar_nikam | i had some more questions on freerdp, can we discuss it sometime on hyperv channel | 13:58 |
sagar_nikam | tomorrow | 13:58 |
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sagar_nikam | you can let me know the time | 13:59 |
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alexpilotti | ok, thanks for joining today! | 13:59 |
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sagar_nikam | thanks | 13:59 |
alexpilotti | #endmeeting | 13:59 |
openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 17 13:59:38 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:59 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2016/hyper_v.2016-02-17-13.02.html | 13:59 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2016/hyper_v.2016-02-17-13.02.txt | 13:59 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2016/hyper_v.2016-02-17-13.02.log.html | 13:59 |
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rhochmuth | #startmeeting monasca | 15:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 17 15:00:02 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rhochmuth. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'monasca' | 15:00 |
rhochmuth | o/ | 15:00 |
rbak | o/ | 15:00 |
Kamil | Hello | 15:00 |
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rhochmuth | hi kamil | 15:00 |
shinya_kwbt | o/ | 15:00 |
bklei | o/ | 15:00 |
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rhochmuth | agenda is as follows: | 15:01 |
rhochmuth | Agenda for Wednesday February 17, 2016 (15:00 UTC) | 15:01 |
rhochmuth | 1.Grafana v2 update | 15:01 |
rhochmuth | 2.Agent thread-pool not restarting. | 15:01 |
rhochmuth | link at, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-team-meeting-agenda | 15:01 |
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rhochmuth | we should also probably look at outstanding reviews | 15:01 |
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ho_away | hello | 15:02 |
pradipm | Hello | 15:02 |
rhochmuth | hi ho_away | 15:02 |
rhochmuth | hi pradipm | 15:02 |
rhochmuth | please feel free to update the agenda at the link | 15:02 |
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rhochmuth | #topic grafana v2 | 15:02 |
rbak | Just a short update on this today | 15:03 |
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rbak | Grafana has some concerns about having another auth method, so the patches are on hold for the moment. | 15:03 |
rbak | But they've offered to work with us to find a way to offer the integration. | 15:03 |
rbak | I have a call with them later this week. | 15:04 |
rhochmuth | sounds goo | 15:04 |
rbak | So this will happen, it just might take a little longer | 15:04 |
rbak | That's all I have for the moment. | 15:04 |
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rhochmuth | ok, thanks, hopefully i'll get to trying this out soon | 15:05 |
Kamil | short question. What would be the other auth-method? O-Auth?! | 15:05 |
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rbak | Possibly? Or maybe working out some sort of pluggable auth system to keystone doesn't need to be part of the main repo. | 15:06 |
rbak | I'll know more next week | 15:06 |
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Kamil | okay. Thx | 15:06 |
rhochmuth | let me know if you want me involved | 15:06 |
rbak | will do | 15:06 |
rhochmuth | i had a discussion with raj | 15:06 |
rhochmuth | and they are doing some really cool things with grafana | 15:07 |
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rhochmuth | so, next topic then | 15:07 |
rhochmuth | ? | 15:07 |
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rbak | sure | 15:07 |
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rhochmuth | #topic agent thread-pool not restarting | 15:07 |
rbak | This one is also mine | 15:07 |
rhochmuth | that doesnt' sound good | 15:08 |
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rbak | Basically in the collector monasca-agent uses a custom thread pool rather than a library. | 15:08 |
rbak | But the terminate function in the thread pool doesn't actually terminate threads | 15:08 |
rbak | So if a thread gets stuck it does a restart, which is terminate and join, and blocks there forever. | 15:09 |
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rbak | I'm just wondering if anyone who wrote the original thread pool is around to fix it? | 15:09 |
rbak | Or maybe we need to switch to a thread pool library instead? | 15:10 |
rhochmuth | hmmm, probably not | 15:10 |
rhochmuth | so, if the thread is left in this state, what problem are you seeing, that we haven't seen after all this time | 15:11 |
rbak | We have issues with agents locking up like this every few days, and they require a manual restarts | 15:11 |
rbak | I'm not sure what causes threads to get stuck | 15:11 |
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rhochmuth | hmmm, we haven't seen that | 15:11 |
rhochmuth | is it a specific plugin that is failing that we aren't running | 15:11 |
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rhochmuth | possibly? | 15:12 |
rhochmuth | or is it any thread/plugin | 15:12 |
rbak | No, I've seen it on http_check | 15:12 |
rbak | And another that I can't remember | 15:12 |
rhochmuth | ok, so http_check was written by david schroeder | 15:12 |
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rbak | I think those are probably bugs in their own right, but the thread_pool shouldn't lock up. | 15:13 |
rhochmuth | so, if you have a library in mind that you want to switch too that sounds good to me | 15:13 |
rhochmuth | just need to ensure licensing is ok on it | 15:13 |
rhochmuth | apache, bsd, … | 15:14 |
rhochmuth | bu not gplv2 | 15:14 |
rhochmuth | if you want to touch-base with david, then i can get you in contact with him | 15:14 |
rbak | I tried switching to the multiprocessing module yesterday. That seems to be what the monasca thread pool is based on. | 15:14 |
rbak | But there are architecture reasons that doesn't work | 15:14 |
rbak | I'll have to look around for other options | 15:15 |
rhochmuth | we haven't seen any problems with our http_check | 15:15 |
rhochmuth | that we are performing in helion, btw | 15:15 |
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rhochmuth | ok, i guess next topic | 15:16 |
rhochmuth | #topic Mitaka Release planing (ansible-installer, devstack, etc.) | 15:16 |
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Kamil | okay that's mine | 15:16 |
rhochmuth | hi kamil | 15:17 |
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Kamil | Hi. Openstack uses devstack to install a test/dev environment. I know that there exist already an integration for monasca. Do we plan to contribute this to devstack? | 15:17 |
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rhochmuth | it is already done | 15:17 |
Kamil | ah okay... haven't seen it yet | 15:17 |
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rhochmuth | See, https://github.com/openstack/monasca-api/tree/master/devstack | 15:17 |
Kamil | and will be the monasca-vagrant (ansible) also a part of mitaka release? | 15:18 |
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rhochmuth | There is also a Vagrantfile in that directory that you can use to build in one step | 15:18 |
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rhochmuth | monasca-vagrant is another development environment that predates devstack | 15:18 |
rhochmuth | we are still using monasca-vagrant | 15:19 |
rhochmuth | but, as it is only a dev environment, that repo isn't a part of the official release | 15:20 |
Kamil | okay... but the devstack integration is still in monasca-api repo. Do we want to contribute it to the devstack repo? | 15:20 |
Kamil | i mean to this one: https://git.openstack.org/openstack-dev/devstack | 15:20 |
rhochmuth | there are only specific "core" projects that are part of the devstack repo | 15:20 |
rhochmuth | all the new projects are done as plugins | 15:21 |
rhochmuth | so, there are projects like nova and swift that are part of devstack | 15:21 |
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rhochmuth | but newer projects, like murano and manilla are not | 15:21 |
Kamil | okay. Thx. So that means, that we will need an installation script for log functionality | 15:22 |
rhochmuth | i forget the actual specificis of whether a project is in or not | 15:22 |
rhochmuth | i think we need to build a devstack plugin for the log api | 15:22 |
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rhochmuth | one was already in progress or done | 15:22 |
Kamil | Good. Thanks for the information. That's all from my side | 15:23 |
rhochmuth | actually, i might be confused | 15:23 |
rhochmuth | there are tempest tests for the log api | 15:23 |
rhochmuth | but i don't see a devstack plugin | 15:23 |
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rhochmuth | i think it would be developed similar to the current monasca plugin | 15:24 |
Kamil | yes. I also haven't seen a plugin from log-api | 15:24 |
rhochmuth | i would like to move off of the monasca-vagrant environment | 15:24 |
rhochmuth | at some point | 15:24 |
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rhochmuth | it is time consuming managing two environments | 15:24 |
rhochmuth | there are several advantages of the monasca-vagrant env though | 15:25 |
rhochmuth | not sure how to resolve that | 15:25 |
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Kamil | monasca-vagrant is a very good dev environment for testing purposes | 15:26 |
rhochmuth | so, i should point out that the monasca devstack plugin is used by the openstack ci system | 15:26 |
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rhochmuth | every code review goes through openstack ci, which builds an devstack vm with monasca and then runs all the tempest tests against it | 15:27 |
rhochmuth | currently, those tests are run against mysql and influxdb | 15:27 |
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rhochmuth | if you wanted to test hibernate/postgres, you could potentially add that as a configuration | 15:28 |
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rhochmuth | we test both the python and java apis | 15:28 |
rhochmuth | but not all variations of databases | 15:28 |
rhochmuth | just mysql and influxdb | 15:29 |
ddieterly | the gates only test the api, right? | 15:29 |
Kamil | i think yes | 15:29 |
rhochmuth | the gates test the api | 15:29 |
ddieterly | so, we don't have gate jobs on the other monasca componenents | 15:29 |
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ddieterly | i think it would be great if somebody created a devstack plugin for each of the other monasca components | 15:30 |
ddieterly | i.e., persister, threshold, notification | 15:30 |
ddieterly | then we could get tempest tests and gate jobs on those componenents | 15:31 |
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rhochmuth | i'm not sure what you are saying | 15:31 |
rhochmuth | usually teh tempest tests test the api | 15:31 |
ddieterly | it would be nice if each component had tempest tests | 15:32 |
rhochmuth | the persister doesn't have an api | 15:32 |
ddieterly | so, we could have gate jobs for each component | 15:32 |
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ddieterly | does tempest only tests api's? | 15:32 |
rhochmuth | the tempest tests are usually for testing apis | 15:32 |
rhochmuth | they are integration or system tests | 15:32 |
ddieterly | ok, then other tests for the other components running in a gate job | 15:32 |
ddieterly | so, if you check in a review for the persister, then the gate tests are run | 15:33 |
rhochmuth | there are gates on the persister, which include tempest | 15:33 |
rhochmuth | the monasca devstack plugin is used by the monasca-persister | 15:34 |
ddieterly | does the persister have a devstack plugin? | 15:34 |
ddieterly | oh, it is shared | 15:34 |
rhochmuth | yes, it is shared | 15:34 |
ddieterly | it would be nice if it had it's own devstack plugin to isolate testing to just the persister | 15:35 |
rhochmuth | the devstack plugin in the monasca-api is used by multiple projects | 15:35 |
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ddieterly | interesting | 15:36 |
pradipm | When we mention enable_plugin monasca-api git://git.openstack.org/openstack/monasca-api - all the monasca mini services are getting installed (persistor, monasca-threh .. etc. etc. ..) right? | 15:36 |
rhochmuth | correct | 15:36 |
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rhochmuth | #topic other | 15:38 |
rhochmuth | ho_away: are you still looking at anomaly detection? | 15:39 |
ho_away | rhochmuth* yep but mainly discussion with my colleague to explain of current implementation | 15:39 |
rhochmuth | i saw an interesting article on fujitus applying deep learning to classification of time series data yesterday | 15:40 |
rhochmuth | i've also started spinning up again on nonparametric statistics | 15:40 |
ho_away | rhochmuth: really, can you point out the link? | 15:40 |
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rhochmuth | http://phys.org/news/2016-02-fujitsu-deep-technology-time-series-high.html | 15:41 |
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ho_away | rhockmuth: thanks! i will find out the writer :-) | 15:42 |
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pradipm | I am seeking an export opinion for one usecase .. if possible in monasca .......... | 15:42 |
rhochmuth | please note, that joe keen made some improvements to the kafka consumer in monasca-common | 15:42 |
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rhochmuth | this bumps the persister performance probably somewhere in the 10-20 K messages per sec | 15:43 |
ddieterly | java or python or both? | 15:44 |
rhochmuth | thanks ho_away | 15:44 |
rhochmuth | python | 15:44 |
ddieterly | nice | 15:44 |
rhochmuth | java was always fast | 15:44 |
rhochmuth | these improvements address the python persister which we hadn't done as much analysis on | 15:45 |
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rhochmuth | so, does anyone want to talk about the log-api performance | 15:45 |
rhochmuth | ok, i've left my analysis and latest performance numbers | 15:47 |
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Kamil | Unfortunaly, i am not aware of the current status of log-api. I think witek wrote you an email | 15:47 |
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rhochmuth | ok, sounds like we are wrapping up | 15:49 |
pradipm | I am seeking an export opinion for one usecase .. if I can discuss once here. | 15:49 |
rhochmuth | sure | 15:50 |
rhochmuth | the floor is yours | 15:50 |
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pradipm | Is there a way to run some simple rules on the alarm-history output? | 15:50 |
rhochmuth | like what | 15:50 |
pradipm | for example: over a time of say 5 hours, if IOPS have been breached in some pattern over 80% | 15:51 |
ddieterly | i don't believe that we have any filters/options on alarm-history at this time | 15:51 |
rhochmuth | there is a topic in kafka that any consumer can consume from | 15:51 |
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rhochmuth | if you want to consume alarm state transition events that would be easy | 15:52 |
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pradipm | I see. ... directly from kafka? | 15:52 |
pradipm | It's already in the alarm-state-history .. right? | 15:52 |
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rhochmuth | You can also use the API | 15:53 |
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rhochmuth | the entire alarm state history is in the API | 15:53 |
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rhochmuth | you can also "subscribe" to alamrs via webhook notifications | 15:53 |
pradipm | thats correct. Is there any component in monasca that runs some form of rule-check on anywhere else? | 15:54 |
rhochmuth | no | 15:54 |
pradipm | Ok.... | 15:54 |
rhochmuth | there has been some interest in various forms of this | 15:54 |
rhochmuth | for example, there is a group that is interested in alarm clustering | 15:55 |
pradipm | any suggestion if I want to define some simple rules (filters as in alarm-history .. or similar) ... what shd be the best approach? | 15:55 |
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rhochmuth | the Vitrage project is also interested in alarm correlation | 15:55 |
ddieterly | get the alarms from the api and do something externally | 15:55 |
pradipm | Vitrage is in Monasca? I am not aware of .. sorry for ignorance. | 15:55 |
rhochmuth | Vitrage is another openstack project | 15:55 |
ddieterly | actually, get the alarm-history... | 15:56 |
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rhochmuth | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Vitrage | 15:56 |
pradipm | make sense ...ddieterly | 15:56 |
ddieterly | pradipm: there is an option in the cli to get the raw json, that would help with external tools | 15:56 |
pradipm | Thanks rhochmuth | 15:56 |
rhochmuth | i think understanding your specific use case would be good | 15:56 |
pradipm | sure ... | 15:57 |
rhochmuth | If you want to plugin to kafka the message schema is at, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Monasca/Message_Schema | 15:57 |
rhochmuth | it depends on what you want to do though. | 15:57 |
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pradipm | so basically I want to do some conformance on storage object underneath cinder/manila | 15:57 |
rhochmuth | you could filter alarm state transition events that are created by the threshold engine | 15:57 |
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rhochmuth | so, i'm guess that would best be handled via the api | 15:58 |
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rhochmuth | i should also point out that fabiog, who isn't here today, is adding support for Congress in Monasca | 15:58 |
rhochmuth | Congress is a policy engine | 15:58 |
pradipm | I see ... yeah .. something like that ... | 15:58 |
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rhochmuth | Please check out, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Congress | 15:59 |
rhochmuth | a fabiog would be the contact | 15:59 |
pradipm | can I configure a policy (like simple rules) and run on top of say alarm-state-history apu .. | 15:59 |
rhochmuth | this meeting is coming to an end i just realized | 15:59 |
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pradipm | will try to chat to fabiog | 15:59 |
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pradipm | thanks rhochmuth. thanks a lot for all the pointers. | 15:59 |
rhochmuth | by everyone | 16:00 |
ho_away | thanks rhochmuth and all :-) | 16:00 |
rhochmuth | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
pradipm | bye and take care. | 16:00 |
openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 17 16:00:29 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2016/monasca.2016-02-17-15.00.html | 16:00 |
Kamil | Bye @all | 16:00 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2016/monasca.2016-02-17-15.00.txt | 16:00 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2016/monasca.2016-02-17-15.00.log.html | 16:00 |
tgraichen | bye | 16:00 |
markvoelker | #startmeeting defcore | 16:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 17 16:00:48 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is markvoelker. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
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openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'defcore' | 16:00 |
eglute_s | o/ | 16:00 |
markvoelker | o/ | 16:01 |
dwalleck | o/ | 16:01 |
gema | o/ | 16:01 |
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markvoelker | #topic agenda | 16:01 |
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markvoelker | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DefCoreRing.12 | 16:01 |
catherineD | o/ | 16:01 |
markvoelker | If anyone has additional items for today, please note them in the etherpad. We'll be talking about RefStack in the latter part of the meeting since catherineD may be on a bus at the moment. =) | 16:02 |
markvoelker | #topic MidCycle Reminder | 16:02 |
markvoelker | Our midcycle is fast approaching (March 8-9 in Austin) | 16:02 |
markvoelker | There's an etherpad started with agenda items here: | 16:02 |
markvoelker | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DefCoreSpring2016MidCycle | 16:02 |
* catherineD yes on public bus | 16:03 | |
markvoelker | If there are additional items you want to discuss, please add them ASAP. We'd like to start nailing down the agenda and assigning timeslots. | 16:03 |
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markvoelker | It would also be helpful if you'd leave your name beside items you add so we know who to contact with questions. =) | 16:03 |
eglute_s | +1! | 16:04 |
markvoelker | I'd like to take a first pass at timeboxing by next week's meeting so everyone can see it and suggest changes. | 16:04 |
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markvoelker | Oh, also: if you are attending in person and haven't yet responded to the dietary restrictions Doodle, please do so right away. | 16:05 |
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markvoelker | #link http://doodle.com/poll/ewsiepmhv9p6r8e7 | 16:05 |
markvoelker | Any questions on the midcycle? | 16:05 |
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markvoelker | Ok, moving right along then... | 16:06 |
markvoelker | #topic New Capabilities | 16:06 |
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purp | o/ | 16:06 |
markvoelker | For the 2016.01 Guideline we divvied up the task of identifying potential new Capabilities by project and had one or two folks play point for each. | 16:06 |
markvoelker | I think that was extremely useful in getting things done, so I'd like to do it again. And it's that time in the cycle where we need to get cracking. =) | 16:07 |
markvoelker | To that end, we need volunteers to tackle ID'ing potential new capabilities for each project. | 16:07 |
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markvoelker | (as well as potentially removing older ones that are no longer useful or have been deprecated) | 16:07 |
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dwalleck | I'd be happy to help with compute :) | 16:08 |
markvoelker | Would a quick breakdown of what you're signing up for be helpful before I start calling for volunteers? =) | 16:08 |
* gema nods | 16:08 | |
markvoelker | Ok, here's how it works: | 16:08 |
markvoelker | Basically your task is to identify new Capabilities in the project that potentially meet DefCore's Criteria ( https://github.com/openstack/defcore/blob/master/doc/source/process/CoreCriteria.rst ) | 16:09 |
markvoelker | Generally, you should talk with the PTL's/project committers to help pinpoint new capabiliteis | 16:10 |
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markvoelker | Operators and end-users can be helpful, as well as user surveys, etc. | 16:10 |
markvoelker | Once you think you've identified Capabilities, you'll put them into a patch against https://github.com/openstack/defcore/blob/master/working_materials/scoring.txt | 16:11 |
markvoelker | And we'll all discuss. We generally expect several iterations of patchsets, so don't feel like you have to nail it all on the first go-around | 16:11 |
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markvoelker | Make sense so far? | 16:12 |
gema | yep | 16:12 |
markvoelker | Again, your job is really just to make a first pass at it...once the candidates are posted we'll all be able to suggest ones that we think probably don't cut it, or suggest additional ones. | 16:13 |
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markvoelker | If anyone has additional questions about the mechanics, just ping me on #openstack-defcore and I'll be happy to assist. | 16:13 |
gema | ok, I will try to do keystone | 16:14 |
markvoelker | gema, dwalleck: great, thanks! Could you add your names to the etherpad please? | 16:14 |
markvoelker | I took Neutron last time and am happy to do so again. | 16:14 |
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dwalleck | done | 16:14 |
gema | done | 16:15 |
markvoelker | catherineD: you were talking with the Heat folks last time, can I coerce you into working on that again? =) | 16:15 |
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* markvoelker forgets that catherineD is still on a bus...ok, we'll come back to that | 16:15 | |
markvoelker | Thanks to those of you who've signed up--I'll send out a note to the ML soliciting additional signups this week. | 16:16 |
markvoelker | #action markvoelker to send email soliciting signups for IDing new capabilities and giving a summary of the process | 16:16 |
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markvoelker | #action everyone sign up to help with capabilities | 16:17 |
markvoelker | Anything further on IDing new capabilities? | 16:17 |
gema | markvoelker: by when do we need to have it? | 16:17 |
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markvoelker | gema: ideally if we could have a first pass before the midcycle that would be awesome. But we have about a mont. | 16:18 |
markvoelker | s/mont/month/ | 16:18 |
gema | markvoelker: ack, will try | 16:18 |
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markvoelker | Any other questions? | 16:18 |
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eglute_s | i think it is still too early for ceilometer | 16:19 |
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eglute_s | just looking at the maturity of the project here: https://www.openstack.org/software/project-navigator/ | 16:19 |
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markvoelker | eglute_s: yeah, there's some debate about that (see last user survey which says it's about as widely deployed in prod as Swift). I lean that way too, but I'm inclined to have the discussion. | 16:20 |
gema | we use ceilometer with various degrees of success | 16:21 |
gema | not sure how a user would access it, though | 16:21 |
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markvoelker | Anything else on scoring for now? | 16:21 |
eglute_s | +1 on the discussion, but the fact the maturity is 2, compared to Heat's 6 and Swift | 16:21 |
eglute_s | 's 7 | 16:21 |
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eglute_s | i also agree with gema, not sure how it would be exposed to users | 16:22 |
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markvoelker | eglute_s: Perhaps the best way to handle this is for you take Ceilometer, and simply submit rationale for why you think it's not ready for inclusion yet? That way we can still have a nice open discussion on the patch. | 16:23 |
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eglute_s | sure | 16:23 |
markvoelker | eglute_s: excellent | 16:24 |
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markvoelker | OK, anything else on this topic? | 16:24 |
eglute_s | next :) | 16:24 |
markvoelker | #topic Designated code sections | 16:25 |
eglute_s | dwalleck can you speak to that? | 16:25 |
dwalleck | eglute_s: sure | 16:25 |
dwalleck | I've had a lot of questions internally at Rackspace about the designated code sections | 16:26 |
dwalleck | They were somewhat confused by the fact that there are critical code sections that are listed, but marked "false" for required | 16:26 |
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dwalleck | I'm assuming this means that they aren't required, but it seems a bit contridictory | 16:27 |
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markvoelker | dwalleck: I think I can speak to that | 16:27 |
dwalleck | There's also some concerns I'm hearing about the critical code sections being a bit too vague, but that's another topic :) | 16:27 |
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markvoelker | SO basically I think this dates back to early in DefCore's history when formats for this hadn't really been hammered out yet (frankly I'm not totally sure they have been yet =p) | 16:28 |
markvoelker | The idea was to provide some additional clarity about things that were explicitly not required | 16:29 |
markvoelker | So there were no questions about whether a thing (drivers, in the case you cited in the etherpad) was required or not | 16:29 |
markvoelker | Sounds like that didn't exactly happen. =p But your interpretation is correct: if it's listed as not required, it's not required (explicitly, rather than implicitly). | 16:30 |
markvoelker | Make sense? | 16:30 |
dwalleck | Makes complete sense! | 16:30 |
dwalleck | I don't think we have any issues, but I wanted to make sure my understanding was correct regardless | 16:30 |
jose-idar | I had one question actually | 16:31 |
markvoelker | jose-idar: sure, go ahead | 16:31 |
jose-idar | api": { "description": "API section means actually the CODE that exposes the API, not just API-comparability", "designated": true, "comment": ""} | 16:31 |
jose-idar | exactly what part of the code is that designating? | 16:31 |
eglute_s | jose-idar can you link to the line? | 16:31 |
markvoelker | So, a bit more history... | 16:31 |
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markvoelker | Early on there was a notion of whether something could be called OpenStack if it provided an alternate but fully compatible implementation | 16:32 |
jose-idar | to be more general, how does defcore define the exact code that must be run? | 16:32 |
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markvoelker | The decision was reached that for things like drivers that are meant to be pluggable, that's fine | 16:32 |
markvoelker | But for things like the API server, that's not kosher because those are not intended to be swappable by the community | 16:33 |
* catherineD will work on Heat scoring | 16:33 | |
markvoelker | Hence the additional clarifier in the comment there that API-compatibility isn't all that's needed; the actual API server code is. | 16:33 |
purp | IIRC, the core of this is that participation in the codebase is what matures the project and the community, and that's something OpenStack as a whole values. | 16:33 |
jose-idar | I guess what I'm asking is, where is the list that says "these are the approved .py's" | 16:33 |
jose-idar | for any given project | 16:34 |
markvoelker | jose-idar: it doesn't exist. =) We've not attempted to define it down to that level, partly because that's an ever-changing list. Rather, the intent was to give guidance and handle specific questions as they came in | 16:34 |
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jose-idar | that clears up the vagueness a little, thanks | 16:36 |
markvoelker | Sure. Designated sections are indeed a bit of a grey area, so if folks have suggestions on how to make them clearer, we're happy to entertain them. | 16:37 |
markvoelker | Anything else on this topic? | 16:37 |
eglute_s | would it be worthwhile to add designated sections to midcycle discussions? | 16:38 |
markvoelker | #topic Data privacy in RefStack | 16:38 |
purp | eglute_s Yes | 16:38 |
markvoelker | whoops, changed topic just too soon I guess =) Sure, add it to the etherpad please | 16:38 |
eglute_s | thanks purp, will do! | 16:38 |
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purp | Added. | 16:39 |
markvoelker | catherineD: are you available now, or should we tackled dwalleck's topic first? | 16:39 |
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* eglute_s thanks purp | 16:39 | |
catherineD | yes let's discuss the RefStack topics | 16:39 |
catherineD | thx | 16:39 |
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markvoelker | The floor is yours madame. =) | 16:39 |
catherineD | So RefStack is implementing vendor registration .... and the users belong to the vendor | 16:40 |
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catherineD | Let me discribe how users information got stored in RefStack | 16:40 |
catherineD | RefStack uses OpenStack OpenID for authentication ... | 16:41 |
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catherineD | when a user log into RefStack , the request is send to OpenStack OpenID for authentication ... https://openstackid.org/ | 16:42 |
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catherineD | fron the response from OpenID , RefStack saves the user full name , email and OpenID to RefStack DB | 16:43 |
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catherineD | that is how a user is register to RefStack .. | 16:43 |
gema | catherineD: who are the users? | 16:43 |
gema | (as opposed to the vendor, I mean) | 16:44 |
catherineD | user is anyone who log into RefStack site and have an OpenStack ID | 16:44 |
gema | yeah but who do you expect is going to be doing that | 16:44 |
hogepodge | Many users can be associated with one vendor, and users can move to different vendors | 16:44 |
gema | someone that belongs to the vendor org? | 16:44 |
gema | hogepodge: makes sense thanks, I was thinking about end users (the people running the apps on the clouds) | 16:45 |
catherineD | let's defer the vendor discussion a bit later ... I will come back to that | 16:45 |
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gema | ok | 16:45 |
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catherineD | so my first question is ... should RefStack provides a API to list the users in RefStack ... and this REST API can be called by anyone with or without an OpenStack ID? | 16:46 |
catherineD | that is anonymous user who go to the RefStack site and do not sign in | 16:46 |
markvoelker | catherineD: I guess I'm not sure what the use case for that would be...e.g. why would we want that to be possible? | 16:47 |
purp | catherineD I'd expect that's an authenticated call. | 16:47 |
eglute_s | I would think not | 16:47 |
hogepodge | With privileged access, yes. But not anonymously or to all users. That's my inclination. | 16:47 |
eglute_s | +1 to what hogepodge said | 16:48 |
gema | agreed, authenticated | 16:48 |
SammyD | +1 hodgepodge | 16:48 |
eglute_s | also, in terms of priority, is this API/feature of high priority? i would not think so | 16:48 |
catherineD | markvoelker: I actually see no use case for anonumous user but just want to check ... | 16:48 |
eglute_s | this sounds like a nice to have later | 16:48 |
catherineD | great .. | 16:48 |
markvoelker | catherineD: Ok. I think we have consensus here that it's definitely not something we'd want to see done anonymously, and maybe only to privilleged users. | 16:49 |
catherineD | now even with an authenticated users ... now on the list of user what info should be returned .... 1) user name (for sure) 2) user email 3) user OpenID | 16:49 |
catherineD | markvoelker: would you please log the agreement ... Thanks! | 16:50 |
purp | catherineD: Is there a use case behind adding a "list RefStack users" API call? | 16:50 |
markvoelker | #agreed No anonymous API for listing all users and their OpenStackID info | 16:50 |
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catherineD | purp: yes.. list user API is what we are working on now ... | 16:50 |
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purp | catherineD: I get that. What problem does it solve? | 16:51 |
markvoelker | catherineD: purp: I guess I could see that being useful for Foundation staff. The average authenticated RefStack user...notsomuch. | 16:51 |
purp | I can see wanting to list results. I'm struggling for a case where I'd want to get the list of all RefStack users. | 16:51 |
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catherineD | purp: yup... | 16:52 |
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* markvoelker notes we have 8 minutes remaining | 16:52 | |
* eglute_s agrees with purp | 16:52 | |
* catherineD could we continure this discussion in #openstack-defcore | 16:52 | |
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hogepodge | For administrative tasks I can see it as useful, but for general users I'm concerned about privacy. We should protect identifying information as we can. | 16:53 |
* catherineD since RefStack is kind of stuck right now | 16:53 | |
purp | hogepodge +1 | 16:53 |
catherineD | hogepodge: purp: +1 | 16:53 |
purp | I'd say return the OpenStackID only, and require a lookup elsewhere. | 16:53 |
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markvoelker | hogepodge: +1. As a Foundation staffer who would likely be the target audience for such an API if I'm reckoning correctly: would you find it useful, or can do what you need to do without it? =) | 16:53 |
purp | I can control what's shown at OpenStackID (name, email, photo). I don't want to expose anything beyond what I've allowed there through any channel. | 16:54 |
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eglute_s | catherineD we can definitely continue this in defcore channel later as well | 16:54 |
eglute_s | +1 for privacy | 16:54 |
markvoelker | I think what I'm hearing is "we don't think we need this at all today, so backburner it until we find a case in which we do". Accurate? | 16:54 |
hogepodge | markvoelker: it would be useful in matching up vendors with users and doing some analysis. I'm building a defcore results database and could see it somehow interacting with it. | 16:54 |
purp | catherineD: Can certainly continue in #openstack-defcore, though I have a hard stop at 9a PST. | 16:54 |
catherineD | eglute_s: thx for continuing the discussion | 16:55 |
catherineD | so it seems like foundation member can see the list of users ... | 16:55 |
hogepodge | markvoelker: +1 | 16:55 |
eglute_s | dwalleck - we wont have time for your topics, wait until next week, mailing list discussion, openstack-defcore later, or all of the above? | 16:55 |
catherineD | and the infor can be name, email, OpenID | 16:55 |
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dwalleck | eglute_s: mailing list or next week is fine | 16:56 |
eglute_s | thanks dwalleck | 16:56 |
dwalleck | I'm still putting together some data around the topics I had | 16:56 |
catherineD | now for a vendor .... vendor will have a group of vendor users ...vendor should be able to list all users in the vendor | 16:56 |
eglute_s | catherineD yes, that makes sense for a vendor to see what users they have. can they do it through UI now? | 16:57 |
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catherineD | eglute_s: not yet .. .but it is the plan for Mitaka | 16:57 |
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eglute_s | ok | 16:58 |
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catherineD | I think I get the guidedances on users (that is foundation can list all users in RefStack, vendor can list user in vendor) | 16:58 |
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eglute_s | +1 | 16:58 |
catherineD | next topic vendor info | 16:59 |
eglute_s | we are out of time... | 16:59 |
eglute_s | move to defcore channel? | 16:59 |
markvoelker | catherineD: I think I wouldn't even worry about foundation staffers listing all users at this point, hogepodge said he probably doesn't have a use for it at the moment so it could be tabled until later | 16:59 |
catherineD | thank you I won't take long .. | 16:59 |
markvoelker | Yes, please: over to #openstack-defcore | 16:59 |
markvoelker | Thanks everyone! | 16:59 |
eglute_s | thanks markvoelker | 16:59 |
markvoelker | #endmeeting | 16:59 |
openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 17 16:59:50 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:59 |
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openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2016/defcore.2016-02-17-16.00.html | 16:59 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2016/defcore.2016-02-17-16.00.txt | 16:59 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2016/defcore.2016-02-17-16.00.log.html | 16:59 |
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alaski | #startmeeting nova_cells | 17:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 17 17:00:17 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alaski. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_cells' | 17:00 |
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mriedem | o/ | 17:00 |
alaski | o/ | 17:00 |
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belmoreira | o/ | 17:00 |
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alaski | this could be a short meeting | 17:01 |
alaski | but let's get going | 17:01 |
bauzas | \o | 17:01 |
alaski | #topic Cells testing/bugs | 17:01 |
mriedem | i assume doffm is here | 17:01 |
alaski | hmm, topic didn't work | 17:02 |
bauzas | openstack you there ? | 17:02 |
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alaski | I have not heard of any issues regarding testing/bugs | 17:02 |
alaski | belmoreira: you had wanted to raise some high priority bugs | 17:02 |
alaski | do you have a list? | 17:02 |
alaski | or at least raise some bugs to get prioritized | 17:02 |
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belmoreira | let me find my list | 17:03 |
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alaski | okay, we'll swing back around in open discussion | 17:04 |
alaski | #topic open reviews | 17:04 |
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bauzas | there are a lot :) | 17:04 |
alaski | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-nova-priorities-tracking is your one stop shop for all things review related | 17:04 |
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alaski | bauzas: yep, it's awesome | 17:05 |
alaski | everyone should drop everything and go review some cells code | 17:05 |
bauzas | could we maybe try to reorganize like we did with the sched prio ? | 17:05 |
bauzas | it's a bit hairy and a bit hard to follow | 17:06 |
bauzas | like sections per topic | 17:06 |
alaski | sure | 17:06 |
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mriedem | i should be +2 on the flavor tables today | 17:06 |
mriedem | just need to get back to it, doffm updated that one | 17:06 |
alaski | mriedem: excellent | 17:06 |
alaski | I'll take a look as well | 17:06 |
bauzas | mriedem: yeah was my next review | 17:07 |
belmoreira | mriedem great | 17:07 |
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bauzas | that one was stale recently AFAIR | 17:07 |
bauzas | oh yeah | 17:07 |
alaski | it was updated yesterday | 17:07 |
alaski | #topic Open Discussion | 17:08 |
bauzas | yeah just saw | 17:08 |
belmoreira | just saw it | 17:08 |
alaski | belmoreira: are you ready with your list? | 17:08 |
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belmoreira | bug #1532562 was critical for was some weeks ago | 17:09 |
openstack | bug 1532562 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Cell capacities updates include available resources of compute nodes "down"" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1532562 - Assigned to Belmiro Moreira (moreira-belmiro-email-lists) | 17:09 |
belmoreira | I did a patch that I deployed in our infrastructure and it would be great to have some feedback | 17:09 |
alaski | okay, I'll take a look | 17:10 |
mriedem | seems pretty straight-forward | 17:11 |
alaski | anything else that is a high priority for you? | 17:11 |
bauzas | but it calls the SG API | 17:11 |
bauzas | which is a bit concerning me, but let's discuss that offline | 17:11 |
belmoreira | we started using NUMA topology and hit #1517006 | 17:11 |
alaski | bauzas: as long as it's calling it within a cell I think it's fine from a cells pov, but if you have other concerns we should certainly discuss | 17:12 |
bauzas | alaski: that's the concern I wanted to be super-sure :) | 17:12 |
mriedem | isn't there an attr on the service object that can give us the same info w/o the sg API? | 17:13 |
mriedem | like last_seen_up? | 17:13 |
bauzas | mriedem: well, it's a long convo | 17:13 |
bauzas | mriedem: and we have some BPs for that | 17:13 |
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belmoreira | bauzas: that was my simple way to try to fix it. happy to change it | 17:13 |
bauzas | but AFAIK, the Service object is not yet having that kind of filed | 17:13 |
bauzas | field | 17:13 |
mriedem | bauzas: it's in the object class | 17:14 |
bauzas | belmoreira: nah, just need to think about the implications of your patch | 17:14 |
mriedem | you mean it's not getting set? | 17:14 |
bauzas | mriedem: I know | 17:14 |
bauzas | mriedem: well, remember, the SG API is a pure fun | 17:14 |
bauzas | mriedem: and last_seen_up is a driver thing | 17:14 |
belmoreira | i just raised that bug because we were suffering from it for a while without noticing... I imagine other are having the same problem | 17:14 |
bauzas | that's why we have 2 specs from someone trying to fix that | 17:15 |
alaski | belmoreira: that one could be tricky (#1517006). if it's adding new functionality it may have to wait, but I wonder if you can work around it by manually ensuring your flavors in the cells match | 17:15 |
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belmoreira | I have a work around... but very ugly to try to submit something | 17:16 |
alaski | right. honestly I'm not sure it's something we should spend time on, but I may not fully understand it | 17:16 |
belmoreira | fine | 17:17 |
alaski | any others? | 17:17 |
ccarmack | I have a question about cells and quotas …. if the quota usages get out of sync vs. the actual usage, there are 2 config options (until_refresh and max age) to refresh the usages …. would those work for cells? | 17:17 |
belmoreira | my point last meeting was that most bugs related with cells were not even triaged. I see that changed | 17:17 |
belmoreira | thanks for having the time | 17:17 |
alaski | belmoreira: yep. thanks for reminding me :) | 17:18 |
alaski | ccarmack: yes | 17:18 |
ccarmack | excellent .. thanks | 17:18 |
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alaski | those are used way down in the db api so they're not affected by cells | 17:18 |
ccarmack | yup | 17:18 |
alaski | anything else for today? | 17:19 |
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alaski | I'm still waiting on an update on the resource pools/classes/providers work from jaypipes to get a clear picture on how that will work with cells | 17:20 |
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mriedem | how much of that is actually expected to happen in mitaka? | 17:20 |
alaski | and doffm has been involved in those discussions as well | 17:20 |
mriedem | i haven't been following along | 17:20 |
alaski | mriedem: they're planning to get it all in | 17:20 |
mriedem | jeez | 17:20 |
alaski | yeah, we'll see | 17:20 |
bauzas | the resource-pools, yes | 17:21 |
alaski | it is moving | 17:21 |
bauzas | really not sure for resource-providers | 17:21 |
jaypipes | not the allocations or scheduelr bits. | 17:21 |
bauzas | we're 2 weeks from FF :) | 17:21 |
jaypipes | only the resource-providers schema, the generic-resource-pools, and a bit of the compute node inventory bp | 17:21 |
alaski | okay, that's not a ton | 17:21 |
alaski | but generic-resource-pools is still an open question | 17:22 |
jaypipes | I will have the g-r-p bp revised and sent up by end of today | 17:22 |
alaski | cool, I'm ready to go through it again | 17:23 |
alaski | other than that I think most cells related work has patches up | 17:23 |
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alaski | I would still like to try to move instance creation to the conductor, but if something big comes up in that work I may not be able to work around it in time | 17:24 |
alaski | anything else? | 17:24 |
alaski | cool. everyone has an extra 30 mins to go review code :) | 17:25 |
alaski | thanks all! | 17:25 |
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alaski | #endmeeting | 17:25 |
openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 17 17:25:31 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:25 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2016/nova_cells.2016-02-17-17.00.html | 17:25 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2016/nova_cells.2016-02-17-17.00.txt | 17:25 |
bauzas | ++ | 17:25 |
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sc68cal | hi all | 18:31 |
SridarK | sc68cal: and all Hi | 18:31 |
* pc_m lurking | 18:31 | |
SridarK | sc68cal: so we are mtg now ? | 18:31 |
sc68cal | #startmeeting networking_fwaas | 18:31 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 17 18:31:38 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sc68cal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:31 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:31 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_fwaas' | 18:31 |
sc68cal | SridarK: yeah. I goofed last week | 18:31 |
SridarK | sc68cal: no worries i think we started the year that way | 18:32 |
sc68cal | The issue was I had not deleted my calendar for the meeting, so that bug in the yaml2ical has been biting me | 18:32 |
SridarK | so i was not sure either | 18:32 |
sc68cal | I .... think I have it right now. I sent an e-mail to the ML last week about it, so it may take a bit of time for things to settle back down | 18:32 |
SridarK | yes no worries | 18:33 |
SridarK | ping xgerman: | 18:33 |
SridarK | today maybe there is some confusion | 18:33 |
sc68cal | yeah there might be :( | 18:35 |
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SridarK | if we get xgerman and mickeys we could run thru | 18:36 |
sc68cal | Here was the e-mail | 18:36 |
sc68cal | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-February/086267.html | 18:36 |
SridarK | yes i saw it | 18:36 |
sc68cal | I guess I should have actually stated the time that the meeting was to occur. sorry. | 18:36 |
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SridarK | other folks may have missed the email | 18:36 |
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sc68cal | yeah | 18:37 |
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SridarK | should we reconvene at the "wrong time" again for this week ? | 18:38 |
SridarK | and settle down from the next week ? | 18:38 |
sc68cal | nah, I think we should just stick to now - and next week we | 18:39 |
sc68cal | will be at the 0000 UTC time | 18:39 |
sc68cal | so basically take the hit on the chin now :) | 18:39 |
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SridarK | sure | 18:39 |
xgerman | ok, my other meeting ended early | 18:39 |
SridarK | aah good xgerman is on too | 18:40 |
xgerman | I updated our HP calendars with the new time so we are good that way ;-) | 18:40 |
SridarK | good we are set | 18:40 |
SridarK | we can do a quick run thru of things | 18:41 |
xgerman | k | 18:41 |
xgerman | Postgres support? | 18:41 |
xgerman | I send to the ML and I think Postgres is out :-) | 18:42 |
SridarK | xgerman: yes i was not sure on where we stand on that - i thought we always supported that before | 18:42 |
xgerman | yeah, for me support and having gates go hand-in-hand | 18:43 |
SridarK | ok | 18:43 |
SridarK | i think this was the review from madhu_ak ? | 18:45 |
xgerman | yep | 18:45 |
xgerman | and that was in response to the gate failing... | 18:45 |
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SridarK | ok, so we can move fwd on that ? | 18:45 |
xgerman | yeah, I think we can | 18:46 |
SridarK | i was not sure on the postgress part but looks like u are saying we are good | 18:46 |
SridarK | ok good | 18:46 |
xgerman | we also had some side bar in the neutron room the other week and we got talked into reviving #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/223343/ | 18:48 |
xgerman | jwarendt will look into that | 18:48 |
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SridarK | yes on the l3 agent inheritance - bharath from brocade also got a WIP out for observer hierarchy | 18:50 |
xgerman | yeah, saw that | 18:50 |
SridarK | so btwn these 2 we should be clean | 18:50 |
xgerman | awesome… | 18:50 |
SridarK | xgerman: on the reviews, u brought up last week - i think we are caught up with things | 18:51 |
xgerman | yes, it looks much better now | 18:51 |
xgerman | great work — I know from other projects how frustrating it is to wait for reviews forever | 18:52 |
xgerman | so this is grande | 18:52 |
SridarK | xgerman: yes for sure thanks for the nudge | 18:52 |
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SridarK | on to fwaas v2 updates, i was hoping to be at a point where we can start looking at the rpc - i hacked up something on the db i/f and debugging an issue | 18:54 |
SridarK | i am hoping at least this week we can start throwing some darts at the rpc/versioned objects | 18:55 |
xgerman | that would be good. I should be able to code them up in the next few days -- | 18:55 |
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SridarK | ok great | 18:55 |
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xgerman | yeah things have been crazy lately | 18:56 |
SridarK | +1 | 18:56 |
xgerman | my next meeting is coming up in 3 minutes... | 18:57 |
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sc68cal | milestone-3 is always a bad time | 18:58 |
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xgerman | yep | 18:58 |
SridarK | sc68cal: yes and this cycle is always more crazy | 18:58 |
xgerman | I think v2 is likely Newton | 18:58 |
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SridarK | it seems - but atleast if we have some things moving we can get it in N1 | 18:59 |
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xgerman | ok, I am off to another meeting… will read the transcript... | 19:00 |
SridarK | ok | 19:00 |
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SridarK | sc68cal: any other things we want to discuss ? | 19:00 |
sc68cal | no, I think it's pretty clear we're all getting beaten down pretty good :) | 19:00 |
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SridarK | :-) | 19:01 |
sc68cal | stay strong all | 19:01 |
SridarK | +1 | 19:01 |
SridarK | ok then if nothing else we can call it a wrap, i can get back to my debugging | 19:01 |
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sc68cal | sounds good | 19:03 |
sc68cal | thanks all | 19:03 |
SridarK | thanks all | 19:03 |
sc68cal | next week is the APAC time - 0000 UTC | 19:03 |
sc68cal | #endmeeting | 19:04 |
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SridarK | yes | 19:04 |
openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 17 19:04:00 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:04 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2016/networking_fwaas.2016-02-17-18.31.html | 19:04 |
SridarK | bye | 19:04 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2016/networking_fwaas.2016-02-17-18.31.txt | 19:04 |
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robcresswell | o/ | 20:00 |
robcresswell | anyone about? | 20:00 |
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mnaser | hello | 20:01 |
bpokorny | Hi all | 20:01 |
^Gal^ | hello | 20:01 |
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matt-borland | o/ | 20:01 |
TravT | 'ello | 20:01 |
r1chardj0n3s | o/ | 20:01 |
robcresswell | #startmeeting HorizonDrivers | 20:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 17 20:01:22 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is robcresswell. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizondrivers' | 20:01 |
r1chardj0n3s | hey, a bot! | 20:01 |
robcresswell | Success! | 20:01 |
TravT | if i remember right, david-lyle is on biz travel this week | 20:02 |
robcresswell | Yup | 20:02 |
robcresswell | So, notices | 20:02 |
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robcresswell | 2 weeks till M-3. Make sure your bps are ready for review and start nagging them cores. | 20:02 |
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robcresswell | I'd like to avoid having quite so many FFEs this cycle :) | 20:03 |
TravT | i have an idea for clearing the review backlog | 20:03 |
robcresswell | We have the midcycle coming up too so we can get through some reviewing I imagine | 20:03 |
TravT | let's just approve all of them and see what happens. :P | 20:04 |
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robcresswell | >.< | 20:04 |
^Gal^ | I have a design question, was told the drivers meeting is the place to be | 20:04 |
^Gal^ | regarding a patchset i suggested | 20:04 |
robcresswell | The other notice is the midcycle: make sure your topics are up for discussion https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints/HorizonMitakaSprint | 20:05 |
robcresswell | See the etherpad linked inside | 20:05 |
robcresswell | If you can't make it, ask somebody else to represent :) | 20:05 |
robcresswell | Anyone else have any general notices? | 20:05 |
robcresswell | ^Gal^: One moment :) | 20:06 |
r1chardj0n3s | got that bug smash link handy? :-) | 20:06 |
^Gal^ | sure, np :) | 20:06 |
r1chardj0n3s | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/OpenStack-Bug-Smash-Mitaka | 20:06 |
robcresswell | dammit, beat me to it. | 20:06 |
r1chardj0n3s | (still open from last night ;-) | 20:06 |
robcresswell | So, this is very similar to the bug day we've been doing within Horizon, but much bigger. | 20:06 |
robcresswell | Well. more with a focus on actually solving them | 20:07 |
robcresswell | Either way, it aligns well IMO, and it would be good to drive attendance. | 20:07 |
robcresswell | So please read the etherpad and get involved. | 20:07 |
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robcresswell | I think thats all for notices, and there are no agenda items. | 20:08 |
robcresswell | #topic Open Discussion | 20:08 |
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robcresswell | ^Gal^: Go ahead | 20:09 |
^Gal^ | yey | 20:09 |
^Gal^ | regarding the patchset https://review.openstack.org/#/c/271771/ | 20:09 |
^Gal^ | Added option for cell_attributes_getter to return row data | 20:09 |
^Gal^ | Hm I needed cell to access fellow cell's data | 20:09 |
^Gal^ | and came out with a solution | 20:09 |
^Gal^ | but it is not quite neat design wise | 20:10 |
^Gal^ | just wanted to hear your thoughts and how should I approach that one | 20:10 |
tsufiev | tables code is already crumbling upon its own weight :/ | 20:11 |
^Gal^ | yeah I guess we'll better of angular | 20:11 |
^Gal^ | but just for a quick python solution | 20:11 |
robcresswell | We're not giving up on python tables just because angular exists :/ | 20:11 |
^Gal^ | :) | 20:12 |
tsufiev | If it's needed by only one table, why not implement it in that specific table? | 20:14 |
^Gal^ | just what I did | 20:14 |
^Gal^ | just thought it'll be nice to have in Horizon base | 20:14 |
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^Gal^ | IMO anyhow | 20:14 |
robcresswell | Hmm. If its not common code, and there doesn't appear to be any need from other developers | 20:14 |
robcresswell | I'm inclined to say no | 20:15 |
^Gal^ | I understand where you're coming from, just thought it is quite basic for cell to adress its row members | 20:15 |
robcresswell | Right, but there's no need for it | 20:16 |
robcresswell | Unless there's a good use case for Horizon, I don't really see the value in adding more complexity. | 20:17 |
^Gal^ | OK | 20:17 |
tsufiev | +1 on banning more complexity w/o clear use cases | 20:17 |
^Gal^ | hmm | 20:17 |
^Gal^ | my use case is a tooltip | 20:17 |
^Gal^ | of a success row | 20:18 |
^Gal^ | if it is unsecessful, show the error on a quick hover | 20:18 |
^Gal^ | unsuccessful | 20:18 |
^Gal^ | but if you guys think it's an overhead for the entire Horizon, I understand | 20:19 |
robcresswell | Yeah, I'd prefer you just kept it in the plugin unless there is a requirement from other code. | 20:19 |
^Gal^ | sure | 20:19 |
robcresswell | Any other bps/ items to discuss? | 20:19 |
tsufiev | ^Gal^: do you want to show a specific tooltip for a any cell in a row if a specific cell has specific state? | 20:20 |
^Gal^ | thanks for your thoughts | 20:20 |
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mnaser | i had some ideas regarding the long term arch. of horizon. i wanted to know how does everyone feel about adopting a model where horizon becomes a lightweight proxy (that basically works around cross domain requests) with an option for deployers to just use apache + mod_proxy as a stronger option.. and basically having a strong powerful frontend that talks to native openstack api's... this would obviously be a very long-term thing | 20:20 |
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mnaser | having this type of thing implemented with swift for starters would make it much better performing and makes scaling horizon easier for example | 20:20 |
^Gal^ | tsufiev: yep something like that | 20:20 |
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^Gal^ | tsufiev: I did manage to acheive what I was after, just thought I'll contribute it | 20:21 |
tsufiev | ^Gal^: then you could add a specific class to every cell and act accordingly | 20:21 |
^Gal^ | tsufiev: oh - I wanted only to show tooltip on one cell, but to alter the tooltip data | 20:22 |
tsufiev | mnaser: are you talking about swift refactoring richardjones is currently working on? | 20:22 |
robcresswell | mnaser: Aren't you basically just proposing a different UI? | 20:22 |
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^Gal^ | tsufiev: and for that i needed to access the row data, for me to get to other cells data | 20:23 |
robcresswell | I mean, that sounds like an entire rewrite without using any of the existing code, no? | 20:23 |
mnaser | user interface can be the same, but the idea is to minimize client => horizon communication and try to adopt a client => openstack APIs directly | 20:23 |
tsufiev | ^Gal^: well, you could just modify that cell attrs with oython | 20:24 |
tsufiev | Python | 20:24 |
mnaser | if horizon keeps adopting more angular related things in it and includes more client-side logic, then why not just talk directly with openstack if most of the logic will sit in the angular controllers/et | 20:24 |
mnaser | i'm not sure if the current swift refactoring includes communicating directly with swift, so im not aware of that | 20:25 |
robcresswell | mnaser: The "why not" would be because we don't have time to start rewriting APIs that frankly, work okay. | 20:25 |
mnaser | sure, but the idea is to look into adopting the model (as I can see, there's lots of refactors happening to use angular that still talk with horizon) | 20:26 |
robcresswell | Well... propose a patch :) | 20:26 |
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robcresswell | IIRC krotscheck was working on CORS support | 20:27 |
mnaser | well, the idea was to hear what everyone feels about it as a project before starting some work | 20:27 |
mnaser | if there's any stoppers or issues that may seem problematic for anyone here, perhaps its good to hear them | 20:27 |
r1chardj0n3s | sorry, wandered off for a moment there | 20:27 |
tsufiev | I feel it's many steps ahead of where we're now | 20:28 |
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r1chardj0n3s | mnaser: your proposal is pretty much what I took to the Horizon devs about 18 months ago | 20:28 |
krotscheck | yesssss | 20:28 |
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robcresswell | krotscheck: Heh, thought you might like to be involved. | 20:28 |
krotscheck | Yeah, reading backscroll | 20:28 |
mnaser | i'll disclose, we have our own control panel (vexxhost), we spent a lot of time building it but we want to start adopting horizon now instead of our own portal | 20:28 |
r1chardj0n3s | mnaser: and the community decision at the time was to go with the middle ground approach we're currently implementing | 20:28 |
krotscheck | Swift is the only API that is not using the oslo middleware cors support - they ahve their own implementation. | 20:29 |
mnaser | we started out with a similar horizon model, right now, we have angular talking to openstack APIs directly (with nginx proxying for cors issues) | 20:29 |
r1chardj0n3s | mnaser: my implementation is here https://github.com/r1chardj0n3s/angboard | 20:29 |
krotscheck | All other API's implement oslo_middleware's version. | 20:29 |
mnaser | i know it's a huge leap but the performance improvements we saw, as well as easier overall code usage | 20:30 |
mnaser | krotscheck: we wanted to avoid messing with existing cors settings of services so we proxied back to the api endpoints using nginx, this could be easily done in apache over the long term | 20:30 |
mnaser | i know it's a biiiiiig leap away, but long term it'll help scaling, make codebase easier (logic is kinda duplicated), and runs much faster | 20:31 |
krotscheck | mnaser: That only works until you hit API's that express internal data relationships in absolute URL's. | 20:31 |
mnaser | r1chardj0n3s: i've actaully ran into that impl and i was sad to see it was kinda left out | 20:31 |
mnaser | krotscheck: true, but we basically started using async.js to do fetching logic to retrieve what we need | 20:32 |
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mnaser | for example, for server detail page, initial server request, then flavor and image info request can happen in parallel too | 20:32 |
mnaser | first-load will be much faster, extra info will load in eventually after | 20:33 |
TravT | mnaser: i've been thinking about doing that kind of approach on my search panel | 20:33 |
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TravT | are you coming to the mid-cycle? | 20:34 |
* krotscheck_dcm wasnt able to line up daycare. | 20:34 | |
mnaser | TravT: no, ill be at the summit however | 20:35 |
mnaser | (but that could be a bit too late :-p) | 20:35 |
r1chardj0n3s | why too late? | 20:35 |
TravT | mnaser: that's not too late. | 20:35 |
mnaser | oh okay, that works then :) | 20:36 |
r1chardj0n3s | as I said, this conversation started 2 years ago :-) | 20:36 |
mnaser | and i dont mind sharing our experience in this and maybe even showing some of the code which we use and how we solved issues that the horizon team might feel like they will come up down the road | 20:36 |
robcresswell | I don't think anyone strongly disagrees with it. Any idea that results in a faster UI is obviously good. The issue is how to manage workload and how we maintain a forward moving UI while simultaneously rewriting huge chunks of it. | 20:37 |
r1chardj0n3s | what rob said | 20:37 |
tsufiev | +1 | 20:38 |
mnaser | I guess all it boils down to: first, the foundation has to be laid down, the ability to requests that go through a very very lightweight path and using an auth token only to talk with any API from the existing angular modules | 20:38 |
TravT | mnaser: i do have a question that you could maybe refer me to. why async.js over angular promises and $q functions? | 20:39 |
r1chardj0n3s | mnaser: that's the easy bit ;-) | 20:39 |
r1chardj0n3s | (I was also curious about async.js) | 20:39 |
mnaser | TravT: easier flow control mostly. async.js gives you a nice way to transition between one callback to another | 20:39 |
mnaser | $q doesnt allow for as easy or clean code for these flows | 20:40 |
mnaser | i think if i remember, you have $q method to allow for using more than a single promise | 20:40 |
mnaser | but, that's about it | 20:41 |
mnaser | r1chardj0n3s: but i think once we establish the foundation, and we can get one or two small panels migrated (say.. list of agents, or something like that) | 20:42 |
robcresswell | So much deja vu, this is glitch in the matrix time. | 20:42 |
tsufiev | Hehe | 20:42 |
mnaser | and then the simplicity and how fast the code works could perhaps encourage slowly starting to use it for bigger use-cases | 20:42 |
r1chardj0n3s | robcresswell: heh, I know, right? | 20:42 |
mnaser | haha :-P | 20:42 |
TravT | mnaser: that's already in progress. | 20:42 |
TravT | come join the fun | 20:43 |
mnaser | this is why i wanted to bring this up here and maybe help speed up the process :) | 20:43 |
r1chardj0n3s | we're not using a direct proxy because the APIs are typically quite terrible :-) | 20:43 |
r1chardj0n3s | and Horizon already wraps them in a layer of nice | 20:43 |
r1chardj0n3s | well | 20:43 |
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r1chardj0n3s | nicer | 20:43 |
mnaser | so what stops us from having that layer of nice on the client side? :) | 20:43 |
r1chardj0n3s | that's precisely what we're doing right now :-) | 20:44 |
r1chardj0n3s | oh, not the API fix stuff | 20:44 |
TravT | well, eventually API could get us there | 20:44 |
r1chardj0n3s | because that stuff is already written in Horizon | 20:44 |
TravT | we have a API layers client and horizon server side | 20:44 |
r1chardj0n3s | why write it again in JS when it's already there in Python? | 20:44 |
TravT | in *THEORY* the client side API could at some point change to direct access *if needed*. | 20:45 |
robcresswell | One thing I am curious about, is why python hangs when loading a detail page but angular manages it in <1 second, when hitting the same API. | 20:45 |
r1chardj0n3s | hmm, the API "layer" is intentionall very thin on the client side, yes TravT? | 20:45 |
tsufiev | robcresswell: django overhead? | 20:45 |
r1chardj0n3s | robcresswell: which detail page in particular? | 20:45 |
mnaser | robcresswell: my experience is the same, i've always tried to figure out why but never could. there is just so much django overhead | 20:45 |
r1chardj0n3s | OK, wait up | 20:45 |
robcresswell | r1chardj0n3s: Compare images in python to angular. The difference is v noticeable. | 20:45 |
r1chardj0n3s | the swift UI, which also goes through Django, is almost delay-free | 20:46 |
r1chardj0n3s | so I'd like to know which angular details page appears to be incurring a Django hit, as I'd like to know why | 20:46 |
tsufiev | I think horizon tables code is then to blame | 20:46 |
r1chardj0n3s | (sorry, the *new* swift UI, obviously ;-) | 20:46 |
robcresswell | Nono, you're misreading I think. | 20:46 |
mnaser | (ps: the new swift ui proposal looks amazing! +1) | 20:47 |
robcresswell | I'm saying that if you compare python image details to angular, I'm surprised at how fluid angular is. Granted, there are obvious benefits to client side magic. | 20:47 |
r1chardj0n3s | ok, so Python details pages are doing *way* more than just hitting that one API. They're also typically hitting all those other APIs like extensions, etc | 20:47 |
r1chardj0n3s | mnaser: thanks :-) | 20:47 |
robcresswell | And the angular ones just aren't right now? | 20:47 |
robcresswell | well, angular *one* :p | 20:48 |
r1chardj0n3s | robcresswell: for an initial angular page load, yes you still need to hit those things (because we're not Single Page App yet) but for the ng images stuff the detail page is SPA and only needs to load that one API call because the rest of the page is already loaded | 20:48 |
r1chardj0n3s | I *think* that minght be the detail page you're thinking of | 20:49 |
robcresswell | Sure, thats the one. | 20:49 |
TravT | mnaser: this talk from vancouver gives some background on where we are (which is after when the big explosions happened at the summit before it). | 20:49 |
TravT | https://www.openstack.org/summit/vancouver-2015/summit-videos/presentation/beyond-the-horizon-innovating-and-customizing-horizon-using-angularjs | 20:49 |
robcresswell | Just surprised at the speed difference. Makes me think we're doing something very wrong in our django views. | 20:49 |
r1chardj0n3s | also, the images detail page async loads several APIs to fill in its details whereas the Python implementation will serially hit those APIs in turn | 20:49 |
mnaser | i'll spend sometime looking at that | 20:49 |
r1chardj0n3s | robcresswell: yes, zero parallelisation :-) | 20:50 |
robcresswell | That could be causing it. I'll look into it more. | 20:50 |
r1chardj0n3s | parallelising inside django ... eek :-=) | 20:50 |
mnaser | so i guess what we could say here is to continue to build on these client facing APIs of horizon | 20:50 |
TravT | r1chardj0n3s: robcresswell: even if we parallelized on django side, you wouldn't get the progressive disclosure without intro-ing some other black magic | 20:50 |
r1chardj0n3s | yep | 20:51 |
mnaser | and should we one day want to speed things up, we can implement those "nice" APIs on the client side? | 20:51 |
TravT | e.g. show base instance details and paint in additional project, flavor, etc details afterwards | 20:51 |
r1chardj0n3s | mnaser: that was my secret plan, yes | 20:51 |
TravT | shhh | 20:51 |
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r1chardj0n3s | it's not really a secret ;-) | 20:51 |
robcresswell | TravT: Oh sure. The angular is a big improvement on fluidity. | 20:51 |
TravT | don't tell anybody! | 20:51 |
mnaser | alright, well this clears things out overall | 20:51 |
mnaser | one question (and maybe i should go read the horizon codebase about this) | 20:51 |
TravT | manser: there is a really cool demo that a few of will be doing at the mid-cycle using searchlight as well | 20:52 |
TravT | maybe we'll make a recording and send it along | 20:52 |
robcresswell | TravT: As I said, I was just suprised at the sheer difference. On devstack its like zero load in angular vs a several second hang in django. | 20:52 |
robcresswell | r1chardj0n3s: I was arguing with the london designers about swift UI today :p | 20:52 |
mnaser | oops i almost printed the entire buffer of this channel out, hah. | 20:52 |
r1chardj0n3s | robcresswell: fight the good fight! :-) | 20:52 |
r1chardj0n3s | I've tried to be inspired by some of their ideas in my patch | 20:53 |
mnaser | but are the angular pages still very much tied up to the django backend (ex: table actions, etc) or are they defined in the angular side of things? | 20:53 |
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TravT | angular side | 20:53 |
r1chardj0n3s | yep, very much angular side | 20:53 |
robcresswell | r1chardj0n3s: I told them to shift the breadcrumb so its usable, work on making the container delete more clear | 20:53 |
TravT | django provide API pass through, negotiation | 20:53 |
r1chardj0n3s | robcresswell: snap, that's what I told 'em too :-) | 20:53 |
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mnaser | ok good, we're really really trying to leave our panel and move our customers to horizon, but we want to get it to a good state | 20:54 |
mnaser | (i'd be more than happy to share our customers feedback as the roll out starts) | 20:54 |
TravT | sounds like a great topic for the summit in Austin | 20:54 |
mnaser | for example, instance actions right now are really poorly done :-( | 20:54 |
r1chardj0n3s | mnaser: we have a UX team that's always looking to involve actual users in their design process! | 20:54 |
robcresswell | mnaser: Best way would be to get involved in the angular work IMO. The API is good enough I think. | 20:54 |
mnaser | on the details page, they're stolen from the table instance actions, so doing any action will redirect you back to the list of servers | 20:55 |
robcresswell | Yeah, talk to piet! | 20:55 |
r1chardj0n3s | mnaser: please talk to piet!! | 20:55 |
* tsufiev curious if with all these great promises we still need to optimize django views performance? | 20:55 | |
TravT | robcresswell: r1chardj0n3s: that is part of what the registry patch solves on angular side | 20:55 |
robcresswell | tsufiev: We're still a long way from replacing all of django. | 20:55 |
r1chardj0n3s | tsufiev: we still need to concern ourselves with horrible API performance :-) | 20:55 |
TravT | decoupling actions for views | 20:55 |
tsufiev | Page more tables, optimize calls, other stuff... | 20:55 |
mnaser | we also introduced a new networking tab into horizon, perhaps we'll submit a patch if folks feel that it's something that's wanted? let me show quickly | 20:55 |
mnaser | and i'll try to get in touch with piet in that case | 20:55 |
r1chardj0n3s | TravT: not sure I follow the connection | 20:55 |
mnaser | i mean our horizon doesnt look so horizon-y anymore but | 20:56 |
robcresswell | mnaser: Just looking at time, but feel free to share images or blueprint ideas in the Horizon chat after. | 20:56 |
mnaser | ah gotcha | 20:56 |
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robcresswell | The intel guys in London have some good suggestions for improving the base Horizon theme. | 20:56 |
TravT | r1chardj0n3s: connection is that we want the actions to truly not be bound to any particular view (details, particular table, etc)... | 20:57 |
robcresswell | ux midcycle has been interesting so far | 20:57 |
TravT | but maybe better to talk elsewhere (time running thin) | 20:57 |
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mnaser | i'll be in #openstack-horizon | 20:57 |
r1chardj0n3s | TravT: sure, I'm cool with that :-) | 20:57 |
TravT | robcresswell: what's coming out of it | 20:57 |
robcresswell | mnaser: FYI, there are simple workarounds for that redirect issue in django. | 20:57 |
robcresswell | We could definitely fix that. | 20:58 |
mnaser | yup, its quite poor ux imho | 20:58 |
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robcresswell | We're almost at time | 20:59 |
robcresswell | Anything else? | 20:59 |
mnaser | i'm good, good interesting discussion :) | 20:59 |
r1chardj0n3s | thanks all | 20:59 |
robcresswell | Yup, good discussion, thanks everyone! | 20:59 |
^Gal^ | thanks, take care | 21:00 |
robcresswell | #endmeeting | 21:00 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 17 21:00:04 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:00 |
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openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizondrivers/2016/horizondrivers.2016-02-17-20.01.txt | 21:00 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizondrivers/2016/horizondrivers.2016-02-17-20.01.log.html | 21:00 |
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