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| PaulMurray | live migration meeting in a couple of minutes on #openstack-meeting-3 PaulMurray paul-carlton2 eliqiao shaohe_feng pkoniszewski jlanoux yuntongjin mdbooth kashyap kmartin claudiub | 13:59 |
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| eliqiao | o/ | 13:59 |
| tdurakov | PaulMurray, wrong channel i guess | 13:59 |
| PaulMurray | yes, noticed... put in other already | 13:59 |
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| tdurakov | cool | 14:00 |
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| PaulMurray | #startmeeting Nova Live Migration | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 2 14:00:31 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is PaulMurray. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Nova Live Migration)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_live_migration' | 14:00 |
| andrearosa | hello | 14:00 |
| eliqiao | hi | 14:00 |
| tdurakov | o/ | 14:00 |
| davidgiluk | o/ | 14:00 |
| eliqiao | o/ | 14:00 |
| mdbooth_ | o/ | 14:00 |
| pkoniszewski | o/ | 14:00 |
| jlanoux_ | hi | 14:00 |
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| PaulMurray | Hi all | 14:01 |
| PaulMurray | Agenda here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NovaLiveMigration | 14:01 |
| PaulMurray | diving straight in.... | 14:02 |
| PaulMurray | #topic Priority reviews | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Priority reviews (Meeting topic: Nova Live Migration)" | 14:02 | |
| PaulMurray | I noticed yesterday that we have not completed any of our specs yet | 14:03 |
| PaulMurray | and I wanted to do an update message after the mid cycle | 14:03 |
| pkoniszewski | that's true | 14:03 |
| andrearosa | panic mode ON | 14:03 |
| andrearosa | :) | 14:03 |
| eliqiao | We don't have any cores in team. | 14:03 |
| PaulMurray | so I would like to go through the ones on the review etherpad quickly and understand what has to be done to complete | 14:03 |
| PaulMurray | and I will see what I can do to get core attention | 14:04 |
| PaulMurray | #info we have 4 weeks to feature freeze | 14:04 |
| tdurakov | +1, let's go through | 14:04 |
| PaulMurray | #link reviews here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-nova-priorities-tracking | 14:05 |
| PaulMurray | what is left for Enable block live migration with attached volumes | 14:05 |
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| PaulMurray | pkoniszewski, I think you are doing those? | 14:06 |
| pkoniszewski | so I proposed new solution according to Daniel's review, can't really do anything more there | 14:06 |
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| PaulMurray | do you need danpb to review? | 14:07 |
| pkoniszewski | question is whether my solution covers all scenarios with shared devices, at the midcycle Daniel said that it should work, we need cores eyes on it as they are most knowledgable ppl there | 14:07 |
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| PaulMurray | making a note on pad | 14:09 |
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| PaulMurray | I'll see if we can get him and others | 14:09 |
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| PaulMurray | I think a lot of this is going to be about gettin reviews | 14:10 |
| PaulMurray | next one in Split network | 14:10 |
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| eliqiao | I reviewed that one, and have some comments on it. | 14:10 |
| pkoniszewski | AFAIK split network got some good quality reviews past last 2 days | 14:10 |
| pkoniszewski | it require some more work | 14:10 |
| eliqiao | alex_xu -1 on it for some UT stuff. | 14:10 |
| PaulMurray | I saw the object change, I should have seen that - I've done a lot of objects..... | 14:11 |
| eliqiao | I have a concern on it. for the validation of live_migration_connect_addr which is configured by admin/operator, can we trust it and use it without any verification? | 14:11 |
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| pkoniszewski | eliqiao: we dont validate config options | 14:12 |
| eliqiao | that is not friendly. | 14:12 |
| tdurakov | eliqiao, if someone has access to conf... | 14:12 |
| PaulMurray | eliqiao, what validation are you thinking of - check format? | 14:13 |
| eliqiao | if ip address, check if it is valid, if host name, check if it is valid. and more over, check if that hostname/ip can be pinged. | 14:13 |
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| tdurakov | PaulMurray, i think it's about security? | 14:13 |
| eliqiao | currently, this patch has nothing validation on it. | 14:13 |
| * alex_xu thinks splits one is pretty close, he will +2 to very soon after update | 14:14 | |
| eliqiao | so if operation configure it by mistake(typo) or something like that, LM will fail | 14:14 |
| PaulMurray | I wouldn't worry about pinging it - that can fail anyway | 14:14 |
| pkoniszewski | eliqiao: pinging is not an option imo as you might play with hostnames at any point | 14:14 |
| pkoniszewski | s/point/time | 14:15 |
| PaulMurray | other places with ip addresses may check format, but not if it actually works | 14:15 |
| PaulMurray | you find that out when you try to use it | 14:15 |
| andrearosa | +1 | 14:15 |
| tdurakov | no need to this kind of validation, imo | 14:15 |
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| * davidgiluk can imagine checking the address is on an internal rather than an external network | 14:16 | |
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| eliqiao | Okay, then we, please make high note on the new feature releast note, this option should be take care by operatior themself. | 14:16 |
| pkoniszewski | eliqiao: i wouldn't worry about validation at all, let's say a bit about ip format, but not that much | 14:16 |
| pkoniszewski | eliqiao: remember that it will fallback to old method if IP is invalid so it will still work | 14:16 |
| PaulMurray | Its worth a log message if it doesn't work | 14:17 |
| PaulMurray | comments on patch if anything else | 14:17 |
| PaulMurray | next is Pause VM during live migration | 14:17 |
| eliqiao | pkoniszewski: I don't find any logic say that will fallback to old method. | 14:17 |
| PaulMurray | (skipping the bug for now) | 14:17 |
| eliqiao | Okay, talk it offline. | 14:18 |
| pkoniszewski | eliqiao: might be that Zhenyu only proposed that but haven't added it yet | 14:18 |
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| eliqiao | pkoniszewski: hmm.. don't think so, I propose the validation, he is kinds of agree, but no update about it. | 14:19 |
| pkoniszewski | so, forcing LM is up for review, alex_xu made some good reviews from the API side, IBM folks are also ok with my change after I reorganized layers a bit | 14:19 |
| pkoniszewski | change looks like it is pretty big, but it is because of docs and microversions | 14:19 |
| PaulMurray | I saw you rebased yesterday - was there any other change with that patchset? | 14:20 |
| eliqiao | yeah, but first we should merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257270 too, I can help on API layer too. | 14:20 |
| pkoniszewski | no, only a merge conflict... because I need to bump both microversions, RPC and API, im getting a lot of merge conflicts there | 14:20 |
| pkoniszewski | that's why im rebasing it very often | 14:21 |
| eliqiao | yeah, cause dan's migration_data patch get merged, we need to bump RPC vesion. | 14:21 |
| PaulMurray | yes - there are 47 patches in the same code at the moment | 14:21 |
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| pkoniszewski | im not changing the code itself | 14:22 |
| eliqiao | PaulMurray: I think we can move up this patch to 'Nova core review' section, right ? | 14:22 |
| andrearosa | as eliqiao said, we should have some core approving the change which introduces the new DB Api method | 14:22 |
| pkoniszewski | +1 | 14:23 |
| PaulMurray | eliqiao, I think so, they don't want more than a couple of patches up there though | 14:23 |
| pkoniszewski | we have three changes that require this new DB API... | 14:23 |
| eliqiao | the biggest problem for LM team is 'we are lack of core' | 14:23 |
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| PaulMurray | eliqiao, noted | 14:24 |
| andrearosa | eliqiao: yes but LM is high prioprirty so hopefully we will have full attention from cores | 14:24 |
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| PaulMurray | can we look at report live migration progress next | 14:25 |
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| PaulMurray | anyone know about these? | 14:25 |
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| PaulMurray | not so much movement in last couple of weeks | 14:25 |
| eliqiao | yeah, there is a question about update inerval. | 14:25 |
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| eliqiao | PaulMurray made a comment that 2s is reasonable, need to ping shaohe_feng to update patch. | 14:26 |
| PaulMurray | I had a chat with rackspace guys - HP and rax think 2 sseconds is ok | 14:26 |
| PaulMurray | it could be made a config, but we weren't worried | 14:26 |
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| tdurakov | PaulMurray, got concerns about writing to frequent to db on this | 14:27 |
| pkoniszewski | well one proposition from me | 14:27 |
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| eliqiao | oh, ignore me, it's alreay 2s.. :( | 14:27 |
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| pkoniszewski | I think that this patch to implement index/show on migrations is actually more important than writing migration progress to the DB | 14:27 |
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| pkoniszewski | I mean this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/258771/ | 14:28 |
| paul-carlton2 | tdurakov, even if you are doing 100 migrations concurrently this is still a tiny query rate given overall system load on db | 14:28 |
| pkoniszewski | it is required by cancelling and forcing LM | 14:28 |
| tdurakov | paul-carlton2, there are also rpc for this | 14:28 |
| pkoniszewski | there's imo no reason to write progress to the DB if don't have way to read it... | 14:28 |
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| paul-carlton2 | true, but rabbitmq can handle much higher rates than db | 14:29 |
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| paul-carlton2 | pkoniszewski, we do have a way to read it, the GET on server/<uuid>/migrations | 14:29 |
| pkoniszewski | will it report migration progress? | 14:30 |
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| tdurakov | pkoniszewski, paul-carlton2 PaulMurray, as decided that compute will have state by itself | 14:30 |
| pkoniszewski | thought that it is just a list of migrations | 14:30 |
| pkoniszewski | and progress will be excluded from this list | 14:30 |
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| tdurakov | it will be easier to make things clear in that area | 14:30 |
| paul-carlton2 | there is a spec for getting this info, I'm sure | 14:31 |
| pkoniszewski | paul-carlton2: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/258797/11/nova/api/openstack/compute/migrations.py | 14:31 |
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| paul-carlton2 | also GET on specific migration will return details | 14:31 |
| pkoniszewski | according to this patch list will not include progress details | 14:31 |
| pkoniszewski | but its not implemented yet | 14:31 |
| pkoniszewski | and it is in, let's be honest, in bad condition | 14:32 |
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| pkoniszewski | so we shouldn't focus that much on writing the progress to the DB because we can't read it yet - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/258771/ | 14:32 |
| PaulMurray | It sounds like these patches need some work to get them straight | 14:33 |
| paul-carlton2 | this is crazy, why would we srupress this info if we are collecting for user info | 14:33 |
| PaulMurray | How about a question on ML regarding update rate | 14:33 |
| PaulMurray | to settle it | 14:33 |
| PaulMurray | We can go back over the specs and leave discussion on the patch | 14:34 |
| pkoniszewski | paul-carlton2: we can talk offline, this is reasonable because current call returns only a list of migrations, there is no GET yet | 14:34 |
| eliqiao | can someone help to summarize it? | 14:34 |
| paul-carlton2 | What is the point of collecting info if you can't see it | 14:34 |
| eliqiao | pkoniszewski: seems it related to at least 2 specs ? | 14:34 |
| pkoniszewski | paul-carlton2: thats my point | 14:34 |
| paul-carlton2 | the GET server/<uuid>/migration/<id> call should display details, if not that is wrong | 14:35 |
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| pkoniszewski | let's agree that there is more work to be done in reporting and getting progress and let's move forward | 14:35 |
| tdurakov | +1 | 14:36 |
| paul-carlton2 | agreed, list should be summary info, GET ... <id> should display details | 14:36 |
| PaulMurray | Those are the main priority specs that can make progress this cycle | 14:36 |
| PaulMurray | and andrearosa is about | 14:36 |
| PaulMurray | to add the concel based on the pause | 14:37 |
| andrearosa | correct | 14:37 |
| PaulMurray | It would be good to get those 5 through | 14:37 |
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| pkoniszewski | that's great, if you can add me to review i will take a look on this | 14:37 |
| PaulMurray | pause, cancel, progress, block migration with volumes and split network | 14:37 |
| andrearosa | pkoniszewski:sure thing | 14:37 |
| PaulMurray | So I will see what I can do to get some reviews from cores on the ones that are near and we can all try to push these through | 14:38 |
| pkoniszewski | I think that we should distinct progress and show/index on migrations | 14:38 |
| eliqiao | andrearosa: please add me too. thx. | 14:38 |
| andrearosa | ack | 14:38 |
| pkoniszewski | show/index on migrations is more important than progress | 14:39 |
| PaulMurray | There is also Making the live-migration API friendly | 14:39 |
| PaulMurray | anyone know what is left on that? | 14:39 |
| andrearosa | but is the original author working onshow/index? | 14:39 |
| andrearosa | it seems pretty much stuck to me | 14:39 |
| eliqiao | yeah, I am owner. | 14:39 |
| andrearosa | cool | 14:39 |
| eliqiao | not many reviews on it. | 14:40 |
| eliqiao | I rebased today due to dan's migrate_data patch get merged(bump RPC version) | 14:40 |
| PaulMurray | There is a request for release notes on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/259319/ | 14:40 |
| tdurakov | eliqiao, this on in merge conflict https://review.openstack.org/#/c/259319/ | 14:41 |
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| eliqiao | PaulMurray: tdurakov yeah, I notied that, and it will be alway on merge confilt so I don't update it for log time. | 14:41 |
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| PaulMurray | eliqiao, does it need the release notes ? | 14:42 |
| eliqiao | But can we do the review on the dependency patch first (virt layer and compute api layer) | 14:42 |
| tdurakov | eliqiao, sure | 14:42 |
| eliqiao | PaulMurray: it changes API behaviors, it's better to have a release notes. | 14:42 |
| tdurakov | one that returns data from task.execute almost fine for me | 14:42 |
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| tdurakov | eliqiao, will leave comments | 14:43 |
| tdurakov | also got question for libvirt side | 14:43 |
| eliqiao | tdurakov: thanks, I will update tomorrow, hope it can be done before next week since I will be on vacation due to Chinese New year in next 1 or 2 weeks | 14:43 |
| eliqiao | tdurakov: please? | 14:44 |
| PaulMurray | eliqiao, can someone take over for your vacation? | 14:45 |
| eliqiao | yeah, I can ask alex_xu for help. | 14:45 |
| eliqiao | PaulMurray: ^^ | 14:45 |
| PaulMurray | can you ask him to approave some as well ? | 14:45 |
| PaulMurray | he is a core :) | 14:45 |
| PaulMurray | it might be better if we do the work and he reviews | 14:46 |
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| eliqiao | PaulMurray: good idea :), he promised me that he will do the review next week :) | 14:46 |
| eliqiao | PaulMurray: yeah. I will try to talk to him before I am on vacation. | 14:46 |
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| PaulMurray | I want to do an action now | 14:47 |
| PaulMurray | someone needs to do the email for ML about report live migration progress | 14:47 |
| PaulMurray | who will do that? | 14:47 |
| pkoniszewski | PaulMurray: I can do that | 14:47 |
| PaulMurray | thanks | 14:48 |
| eliqiao | +1 for pkoniszewski , I will follow. Thanks! | 14:48 |
| PaulMurray | #action pkoniszewski to write email for dev ML about tie interval for writing to DB in report live migration progress | 14:48 |
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| PaulMurray | Lastly there are a couple of patches hanging around for Series to deprecate migration flags config: | 14:48 |
| pkoniszewski | PaulMurray: today sdague approved one and -1 another | 14:49 |
| sdague | pkoniszewski: yeh, it's mostly for a missing test case | 14:50 |
| sdague | it should be quick turn around the 2 things I -1ed today | 14:50 |
| pkoniszewski | exactly, so this series is almost in | 14:50 |
| PaulMurray | sdague, do you know if mark is around (can't remember nick) | 14:50 |
| eliqiao | markmcclain: | 14:51 |
| eliqiao | shoud be. | 14:51 |
| sdague | PaulMurray: it's markmc, and I don't know that he's been hanging around much | 14:51 |
| sdague | eliqiao: no, that's the other mark | 14:51 |
| eliqiao | sdague: get it, thx. | 14:51 |
| sdague | markmc is in #nova right now | 14:51 |
| sdague | I think it would also be fine for someone else to update with the fixes | 14:51 |
| PaulMurray | sdague, well, I'll give it a few days and see if I can find him if he doesn't see it | 14:51 |
| sdague | well, I'd suggest turning it around while it's fresh | 14:52 |
| sdague | especially given that they are pretty straight forward | 14:52 |
| sdague | and mark is a pretty busy person | 14:52 |
| PaulMurray | yes, can do - can someone do that? (I'm pretty busy right now too) | 14:52 |
| PaulMurray | any offers to fix the patch up? | 14:52 |
| pkoniszewski | i've got to go, thanks everyone, bye! | 14:52 |
| eliqiao | markmc just replied sdague on the patch one hour ago. | 14:53 |
| sdague | eliqiao: cool | 14:53 |
| PaulMurray | which patch? | 14:53 |
| eliqiao | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263434/9/nova/tests/unit/virt/libvirt/test_driver.py | 14:53 |
| PaulMurray | oh yes, I see it | 14:54 |
| eliqiao | he got test case proposed on Ic480be79772e2721e0f57f17ccc9d893e92af4c9 | 14:54 |
| PaulMurray | lets leave it with him then | 14:54 |
| PaulMurray | We are nearly on the hour now | 14:54 |
| PaulMurray | #topic Bugs | 14:54 |
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| PaulMurray | we have not done much in the way of bug triage that I am aware of | 14:55 |
| PaulMurray | has anyone been looking at them? | 14:55 |
| sdague | I'm happy with markmc's comments as soon as the oslo.config test results come back | 14:55 |
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| PaulMurray | sdague, cool - thanks | 14:55 |
| PaulMurray | mikal was going to do something for bugs but ended up too busy | 14:56 |
| PaulMurray | I think its too late to discuss here now | 14:57 |
| eliqiao | PaulMurray: I promised to help, but I don't get any response from mikal. | 14:57 |
| sdague | PaulMurray: if you could come up with alternative wording for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263436 - I'll +2 it, but I agree the deprecation warning is really hard to get your head around. | 14:57 |
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| PaulMurray | sdague, I'll take a look right after this | 14:57 |
| sdague | cool | 14:57 |
| PaulMurray | eliqiao, lets go offline with the bugs topic | 14:58 |
| eliqiao | PaulMurray: Okay. | 14:58 |
| PaulMurray | no time for other discussion, so sorry if you have any | 14:58 |
| PaulMurray | remember that you can add things to the agenda if you want to make sure you get time | 14:58 |
| PaulMurray | thanks all for coming | 14:59 |
| mdbooth | PaulMurray: Any chance of a higher-bandwidth chat about storage pools some time soon with whoever's interested? | 14:59 |
| mdbooth | Unfortunately I couldn't make the midcycle. | 14:59 |
| paul-carlton2 | mdbooth, you back in uk now? | 14:59 |
| PaulMurray | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 2 14:59:25 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_live_migration/2016/nova_live_migration.2016-02-02-14.00.html | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_live_migration/2016/nova_live_migration.2016-02-02-14.00.txt | 14:59 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_live_migration/2016/nova_live_migration.2016-02-02-14.00.log.html | 14:59 |
| PaulMurray | mdbooth, over on openstack-dev - I did want to speak to you | 14:59 |
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| PaulMurray | sdague, I proposed a change of wording on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263436 | 15:35 |
| PaulMurray | If that looks ok I can change the patch | 15:35 |
| sdague | PaulMurray: looking | 15:36 |
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| devkulkarni | #startmeeting Solum Team Meeting | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 2 17:00:22 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is devkulkarni. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 17:00 | |
| devkulkarni | #topic Roll Call | 17:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'solum_team_meeting' | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 17:00 | |
| devkulkarni | Devdatta Kulkarni | 17:00 |
| vijendar | o/ | 17:00 |
| muralia | murali allada | 17:00 |
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| devkulkarni | hey nice to see you murali | 17:00 |
| devkulkarni | nice to see you vijendar | 17:00 |
| muralia | good to see you guys too | 17:00 |
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| devkulkarni | here is the agenda for today: | 17:01 |
| devkulkarni | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum#Agenda_for_2016-02-02_1700_UTC | 17:01 |
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| mkam | Melissa Kam | 17:01 |
| devkulkarni | please take few minutes to go over the agenda | 17:01 |
| devkulkarni | hi mkam | 17:01 |
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| james_li | james li | 17:01 |
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| devkulkarni | hi james_li | 17:02 |
| james_li | Hi | 17:02 |
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| devkulkarni | here is today's agenda again: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum#Agenda_for_2016-02-02_1700_UTC | 17:02 |
| devkulkarni | please take a minute to scan through it | 17:02 |
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| devkulkarni | will proceed in a minue | 17:02 |
| devkulkarni | minute | 17:02 |
| devkulkarni | alright.. lets begin | 17:03 |
| devkulkarni | #topic Announcements | 17:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 17:03 | |
| devkulkarni | I have no prepared announcement today | 17:03 |
| devkulkarni | do any of you have any announcement for the team? | 17:03 |
| devkulkarni | ok | 17:04 |
| devkulkarni | #topic Review Action Items | 17:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review Action Items (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 17:04 | |
| devkulkarni | there was one action item from last meeting | 17:04 |
| devkulkarni | devkulkarni1 to file a bug to track the use-case of deploying docker images directly from solum, without first having to associate those images with an app | 17:04 |
| devkulkarni | I have completed this action | 17:04 |
| devkulkarni | Here is the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/1540993 | 17:04 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1540993 in Solum "deploy-du-without-associating-with-an-app" [Wishlist,New] | 17:04 |
| muralia | can you give us some context dev? why would we want to do that? | 17:05 |
| devkulkarni | please weigh in with your comments if you have any thoughts/comments on it | 17:05 |
| devkulkarni | muralia: good question | 17:05 |
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| devkulkarni | if you read the bug report, this is one of the first things that I have mentioned.. that we should evaluate first whether we need this functionality | 17:06 |
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| devkulkarni | it came about in our discussion last week | 17:06 |
| devkulkarni | when we were talking about supporting a feature of deploying dus which have been created for an app | 17:06 |
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| devkulkarni | vijendar raised the question of what if already have a docker image, could we not directly deploy it? | 17:07 |
| devkulkarni | should we first have to associate it with an app? | 17:07 |
| devkulkarni | so that is the context basically.. I was thinking that from usability pov it might have some value | 17:07 |
| devkulkarni | internally we would still associate an app with it | 17:07 |
| muralia | ok. so we still need to explore this. sounds like exactly what magnum does. | 17:07 |
| devkulkarni | actually that's right | 17:08 |
| devkulkarni | vijendar any additional thoughts that you had on this? | 17:08 |
| devkulkarni | muralia: yes, we need to investigate more whether this option makes sense for us in solum or not | 17:08 |
| vijendar | devkulkarni: nothing to add | 17:09 |
| devkulkarni | alright.. good question muralia | 17:09 |
| devkulkarni | there was no other action item | 17:09 |
| devkulkarni | so lets move on to the next topic | 17:09 |
| devkulkarni | #topic Blueprint/Bug Review and Discussion | 17:09 |
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| devkulkarni | 1) Making p34 gate voting | 17:10 |
| devkulkarni | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/solum/+spec/solum-python3 | 17:10 |
| devkulkarni | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273425/ | 17:10 |
| devkulkarni | let me give some context on this one | 17:10 |
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| james_li | devkulkarni: does eventlet support python 3 now? | 17:10 |
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| devkulkarni | james_li: good question. don't have answer.. let me give a context first about this | 17:11 |
| devkulkarni | so victor stannier had registered a blueprint in september of last year to convert solum to python 3 | 17:11 |
| devkulkarni | he had submitted several patches to make this happen | 17:11 |
| devkulkarni | most of those patches have been merged | 17:11 |
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| devkulkarni | recently, victor submitted another set of patches for addressing some oslo related issues | 17:12 |
| devkulkarni | while working on those patches he realized that tox -e py34 was passing | 17:12 |
| devkulkarni | so he submitted a patch to our project config to make the py34 gate voting | 17:12 |
| devkulkarni | and before we could discuss as a team that patch was merged | 17:12 |
| devkulkarni | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273425/ | 17:12 |
| devkulkarni | here is that patch | 17:12 |
| devkulkarni | I commented on the patch that we need to discuss this, but now since the patch has merged, we will still discuss it whether we are ready for python3 | 17:13 |
| devkulkarni | so that is the context | 17:13 |
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| devkulkarni | james_li: you raised a very good point | 17:14 |
| vijendar | probably there should be at one +2 from the project core before any patch gets merged | 17:14 |
| devkulkarni | jame_li: would you mind adding this question/note to that patch above? | 17:14 |
| vijendar | atleast* | 17:14 |
| devkulkarni | vijendar: yes, that is typically the expectation.. but looks like infra folks moved forward in this case without that | 17:14 |
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| devkulkarni | vijendar: I have mentioned on that patch that we will discuss this as a team and decide whether we are ready for python3 | 17:15 |
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| devkulkarni | if we don't feel we are ready, we will submit a patch to revert the change (make it non-voting) | 17:15 |
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| devkulkarni | what are you alls thoughts? | 17:16 |
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| james_li | devkulkarni: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Python3 | 17:16 |
| james_li | looks like yes | 17:16 |
| james_li | eventlet 0.17.3 now fully support Python 3 | 17:17 |
| muralia | nice. | 17:17 |
| muralia | we should be ok then | 17:17 |
| devkulkarni | thanks james_li for the pointer | 17:17 |
| devkulkarni | good that you remembered about eventlet james_li | 17:17 |
| devkulkarni | looking through that list, are there any other libraries that we should be concerned about? | 17:18 |
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| devkulkarni | don't seem like we are using any of the others which are not python 3 compatible | 17:19 |
| devkulkarni | so we should be okay | 17:19 |
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| devkulkarni | so we ok in making the py34 job as voting then? | 17:20 |
| james_li | lot of other openstack projects already py3 compatible | 17:20 |
| james_li | devkulkarni: yes | 17:20 |
| devkulkarni | vijendar: ? | 17:20 |
| devkulkarni | mkam:? | 17:20 |
| muralia | +1 | 17:20 |
| devkulkarni | thanks muralia and james_li | 17:20 |
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| devkulkarni | vijendar: what is your position on this? | 17:21 |
| vijendar | since it is already merged, let's keep it | 17:21 |
| vijendar | if we run into any issue, we can always make non voting later…right? | 17:21 |
| devkulkarni | alright. | 17:21 |
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| devkulkarni | if we run into issues due to python 3 syntax etc, we will have to now try to fix them by using the appropriate syntax | 17:22 |
| devkulkarni | if there are libraries that are available only in python < 3 version then we cannot use them | 17:23 |
| devkulkarni | etc | 17:23 |
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| vijendar | ok | 17:23 |
| devkulkarni | our really last resort will be to make the gate non-voting | 17:23 |
| devkulkarni | lets see how it goes | 17:23 |
| devkulkarni | alright, good discussion on this particular topic | 17:24 |
| devkulkarni | lets move on to some reviews | 17:24 |
| devkulkarni | 1) Saving workflow result | 17:24 |
| devkulkarni | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269842/ | 17:24 |
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| devkulkarni | vijendar: do you want to provide some context about this patch? | 17:24 |
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| vijendar | on completion of workflow execution, we need a column on workflow table to store the result | 17:25 |
| vijendar | for example, if there is an error we can store stack trace | 17:25 |
| james_li | vijendar: do we already have a log pointer? | 17:26 |
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| james_li | user can check all the logs about testing, building and deploying | 17:26 |
| vijendar | on sucess, we may want to store some result. For example, with magnum integration we may want to store containers info etc.. | 17:26 |
| vijendar | james_li: right. user can always go to logs for detailed info | 17:26 |
| devkulkarni | james_li: the success use case is where the workflow results column provides immediate benefit | 17:27 |
| vijendar | this is for providing quick info on the workflow status | 17:27 |
| muralia | i see a status column though. how is this different? | 17:27 |
| vijendar | status colum says just sucess or fail | 17:27 |
| vijendar | but this column can store short description of the status | 17:28 |
| muralia | I see | 17:28 |
| devkulkarni | or, list of running containers when we go to multi-container apps | 17:28 |
| vijendar | devkulkarni: correct | 17:28 |
| muralia | ok. makes sense. | 17:29 |
| muralia | got my +2 | 17:29 |
| devkulkarni | good discussion.. you can review it now or later | 17:29 |
| devkulkarni | cool | 17:29 |
| devkulkarni | next one is | 17:29 |
| vijendar | muralia: thanks | 17:29 |
| devkulkarni | 2) App parameters | 17:29 |
| devkulkarni | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267182/ | 17:29 |
| devkulkarni | vijendar: again, could you provide some context on this one | 17:30 |
| devkulkarni | james_li this is a follow-on patch to the previous parameters patch which is now merged | 17:30 |
| james_li | ic | 17:30 |
| vijendar | devkulkarni: sure | 17:30 |
| dimtruck | o/ sorry i'm late :( | 17:30 |
| devkulkarni | hi dimtruck | 17:30 |
| james_li | BTW +1 on the short result one :) | 17:30 |
| vijendar | james_li: thanks | 17:31 |
| devkulkarni | james_li: awesome | 17:31 |
| vijendar | current parameters file is a flat list | 17:31 |
| james_li | dimtruck: you are welcome :) | 17:31 |
| vijendar | with this patch, we are grouping them into sections | 17:31 |
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| james_li | how are params logically grouped into sections? | 17:32 |
| james_li | params for user apps; for solum; for ... | 17:33 |
| devkulkarni | james_li: are you asking in syntactically or semantically? | 17:33 |
| james_li | guess latter | 17:34 |
| muralia | also, i see that we are reading user and solum params in the patch, but not any other section. | 17:34 |
| devkulkarni | I think the params file can have whatever sections that user wants — there could be some sections which are pre-defined by us | 17:34 |
| devkulkarni | muralia: this is the first step in the direction to allow us to provide any number of sections in the future | 17:35 |
| vijendar | muralia: correct. downstream plugins/patches can pass some custom parameters and read/use them | 17:35 |
| muralia | ok | 17:35 |
| devkulkarni | james_li: going back to the point | 17:35 |
| james_li | oh devkulkarni: you are saying like a config file [default]... [oslo]... ? | 17:35 |
| devkulkarni | we could have some sections that have pre-defined meaning | 17:35 |
| devkulkarni | right, something along those lines | 17:35 |
| james_li | got it | 17:36 |
| devkulkarni | I think currently we are using 'user_params' and 'solum_params' as having pre-defined meaning.. | 17:36 |
| devkulkarni | right vijendar? | 17:36 |
| devkulkarni | cool | 17:36 |
| vijendar | devkulkarni: correct | 17:36 |
| devkulkarni | we definitely need to call this out in our documentation | 17:36 |
| james_li | for multi dependent services | 17:36 |
| devkulkarni | vijendar: in a separate patch or in your current patch, would you mind updating this http://docs.openstack.org/developer/solum/getting_started/index.html | 17:37 |
| devkulkarni | the docs currently don't go into much details about parameters | 17:37 |
| vijendar | devkulkarni: sure. will do in a separate patch | 17:37 |
| devkulkarni | now will be a good time to update those | 17:37 |
| devkulkarni | sounds good | 17:37 |
| devkulkarni | james_li: please continue your thought | 17:38 |
| devkulkarni | if I were to guess your question.. | 17:38 |
| james_li | devkulkarni: it makes sense, now I get the point | 17:38 |
| devkulkarni | cool | 17:38 |
| muralia | james_li: im ok with this change, but will let you review. you've got more thoughts on this. | 17:38 |
| devkulkarni | so, please review this patch | 17:39 |
| devkulkarni | there is a related patch on the cli side | 17:39 |
| devkulkarni | lets first discuss about that | 17:39 |
| james_li | sure doing today | 17:39 |
| vijendar | thanks muralia james_li devkulkarni | 17:39 |
| devkulkarni | looks like CLI patches are next in our list | 17:39 |
| devkulkarni | 3) CLI Patches | 17:39 |
| devkulkarni | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267809/ | 17:40 |
| devkulkarni | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/272827/ | 17:40 |
| devkulkarni | first one is related to parameters | 17:40 |
| devkulkarni | second one is related to requirements update | 17:40 |
| devkulkarni | will give few minutes for you to review patches | 17:41 |
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| devkulkarni | next we have couple of patches from james_li | 17:43 |
| devkulkarni | 4) Converting bash scripts to Python | 17:43 |
| devkulkarni | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196498/ | 17:43 |
| devkulkarni | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192928/ | 17:43 |
| devkulkarni | james_li: thanks for addressing my comments | 17:43 |
| devkulkarni | you got my +2 on both | 17:43 |
| devkulkarni | will let others review it in next couple of days | 17:44 |
| devkulkarni | should be good to merge after that | 17:44 |
| muralia | ya. will take some time. this is a big patch | 17:44 |
| devkulkarni | sure, that will be ok muralia .. these patches are not blocker for any other work right now | 17:45 |
| james_li | devkulkarni: cool | 17:45 |
| devkulkarni | but will be good to have them merged as they have been waiting on some other changes for several months now | 17:45 |
| devkulkarni | those changes (in oslo) merged recently, unblocking these patches | 17:45 |
| devkulkarni | alright, so that is the end of our regular agenda | 17:46 |
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| devkulkarni | #topic Open Discussion | 17:46 |
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| devkulkarni | I have two topics | 17:46 |
| devkulkarni | 1) Austin summit | 17:46 |
| devkulkarni | We have submitted two talks -- one by ashishjain and devkulkarni, another by vijendar and devkulkarni. Will post the links when I have them. | 17:46 |
| devkulkarni | Talk submission: February 2, 2016 11:59pm PST | 17:46 |
| devkulkarni | so the deadline is tonight | 17:46 |
| devkulkarni | I think dimtruck and mkam are also submitting something? | 17:46 |
| devkulkarni | have you guys registered for the summit yet? | 17:47 |
| mkam | we an infrastructure security talk | 17:47 |
| devkulkarni | I see.. that will be interesting talk | 17:47 |
| devkulkarni | please share the link when you get it, we all can vote | 17:48 |
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| devkulkarni | the topics of the two talks that we have submitted are: | 17:48 |
| devkulkarni | 1) with ashishjain we are investigating how to use Jenkins for CI and Solum for CD | 17:49 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain has built a poc for this | 17:49 |
| devkulkarni | 2) with vijendar we are talking about how to deploy to bare metal (something like rackspace's carina service) | 17:50 |
| devkulkarni | we will also highlight other aspects of solum | 17:50 |
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| devkulkarni | if you want to submit something, today is the deadline | 17:50 |
| devkulkarni | let me know if you want to brainstorm ideas, or need any help with any feature to make the submission | 17:51 |
| devkulkarni | so that was one topic | 17:51 |
| devkulkarni | the other topic I had was solum getting a place as part of the IndiaHacks hackthon | 17:52 |
| devkulkarni | here is the link: | 17:52 |
| devkulkarni | https://www.hackerearth.com/sprints/open-source-india-hacks-2016/ | 17:52 |
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| devkulkarni | basically, this is a month long hackathon on various open source projects | 17:52 |
| devkulkarni | it is happening all over India | 17:52 |
| devkulkarni | anyone can participate apparently | 17:52 |
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| devkulkarni | ashishjain was instrumental in getting solum as one of the projects for this hackathon | 17:53 |
| devkulkarni | we are the only openstack project on it | 17:53 |
| devkulkarni | I am excited about this.. hopefully we will get good exposure and also get new contributors | 17:54 |
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| devkulkarni | another related point is, there is a global openstack hackathon in early March | 17:54 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain has registered to represent solum at this global bug fix day | 17:55 |
| devkulkarni | it is a bug fix day, not a hackathon | 17:55 |
| devkulkarni | there was an email regarding this bug fix day on the openstack dev mailing list sometime back | 17:55 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain will be representing us in Bangalore | 17:55 |
| devkulkarni | that is all that I had for us today | 17:56 |
| devkulkarni | any one has any other topic to discuss / thoughts to share? | 17:57 |
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| devkulkarni | just saw email about git restack | 17:59 |
| devkulkarni | vijendar: looks useful to the problem that we were discussing sometime back | 17:59 |
| devkulkarni | its on openstack-infra mailing list | 18:00 |
| vijendar | devkulkarni: ok | 18:00 |
| devkulkarni | will forward it.. alright.. looks like it is time | 18:00 |
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| devkulkarni | thanks all for joining today | 18:00 |
| devkulkarni | see you next week | 18:00 |
| muralia | bye | 18:00 |
| devkulkarni | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 2 18:00:55 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2016/solum_team_meeting.2016-02-02-17.00.html | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2016/solum_team_meeting.2016-02-02-17.00.txt | 18:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2016/solum_team_meeting.2016-02-02-17.00.log.html | 18:01 |
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| briancurtin | #startmeeting python-openstacksdk | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 2 19:00:11 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is briancurtin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
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| rtheis | o/ | 19:00 |
| etoews | o/ | 19:01 |
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| briancurtin | i don’t really have an agenda right now as the last few days i haven’t spent a ton of time working as i just moved over the weekend. anyone have a particular topic to bring up? | 19:01 |
| rtheis | https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstacksdk/+bug/1461200 | 19:02 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1461200 in OpenStack SDK "Create basic resource.props for id and ids attributes" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Richard Theis (rtheis) | 19:02 |
| etoews | yes. that one. | 19:02 |
| rtheis | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270900/ | 19:02 |
| rtheis | Wondering how to proceed | 19:02 |
| rtheis | I was considering only using _ids for a list of ID strings | 19:03 |
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| briancurtin | ooh, yeah, i saw the emails on that but haven’t come back to it, though i remember having one thought on a naming choice - i’ll read up right now | 19:03 |
| rtheis | ok | 19:03 |
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| terrylhowe | o/ | 19:03 |
| etoews | ya. let's take a min and nail it down. | 19:03 |
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| terrylhowe | this whole id thing in the path args I made it so there were no _id properties and the major ones would resolve to a resource object | 19:06 |
| terrylhowe | for things in path args at least | 19:06 |
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| terrylhowe | probably too much work though | 19:06 |
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| terrylhowe | things like tenant_id would be converted to a project resource | 19:07 |
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| briancurtin | ok, so qiming’s last two sentences on https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstacksdk/+bug/1461200/comments/6 — anything that is an id or sequence of ids should now be foo_id or foo_ids, regardless of if it comes in the response as foo or whatever. while renaming pools in his example to pool_ids doesn’t buy us much in that exact spot, consistency across | 19:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1461200 in OpenStack SDK "Create basic resource.props for id and ids attributes" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Richard Theis (rtheis) | 19:07 |
| briancurtin | the board is what it buys us | 19:07 |
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| briancurtin | terrylhowe: yeah but we’re going away from type=Resource | 19:08 |
| terrylhowe | that is fine, it is cool on one level, but probably in reality no end of hassle | 19:08 |
| briancurtin | terrylhowe: i haven’t had time to look over the last few days, but the thing on my plate now that i’m back into it is to figure out our problems with the path_args stuff that was mostly caused by type=Resource, so that whole thing is probably easier to do now. i think | 19:09 |
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| rtheis | so use _id/_ids for property names only if the property is ID/list of IDs ? And leave the properties which contain list of dicts or dicts as-is ? | 19:12 |
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| rtheis | That is what I was considering in comment 7 | 19:13 |
| etoews | rtheis: what does a "list of dicts which contain the load balancer IDs" look like? | 19:13 |
| etoews | do you have some example data? | 19:13 |
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| rtheis | yeah | 19:13 |
| etoews | rtheis: what does a "list of dicts which contain the load balancer IDs" look like? | 19:14 |
| etoews | do you have some example data? | 19:14 |
| rtheis | [{'id': '6'},{'id': '7'}] | 19:14 |
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| rtheis | so each dict is a load balancer and the only data returned is the ID for the load balancer | 19:15 |
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| rtheis | But I suppose the network API could return more in the future | 19:15 |
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| etoews | sigh...future proofing... | 19:16 |
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| briancurtin | rtheis: a single string should be _id, a sequence or collection should be _ids (lists, lists of dicts, dicts, etc) | 19:16 |
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| rtheis | ok | 19:16 |
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| etoews | briancurtin: can you communicate that to qiming on the email thread? | 19:19 |
| briancurtin | etoews: should i put it in the issue so it’s out there? (also this is the kind of thing that would eventually be codified in a contrib guide) | 19:19 |
| etoews | ++ even better | 19:20 |
| briancurtin | i’ll write that up after this is over | 19:20 |
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| rtheis | thanks | 19:20 |
| briancurtin | anything else to discuss? | 19:21 |
| rtheis | nothing else from me | 19:21 |
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| etoews | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/265659/ | 19:21 |
| etoews | should be ready to go. | 19:22 |
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| briancurtin | etoews: looking now | 19:22 |
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| briancurtin | etoews: yeah that’s good | 19:23 |
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| etoews | if we have functional tests that are configurable and we can skip functional tests if a particular service isn't present, that opens up the gate (pun intended) to testing against public clouds. | 19:24 |
| etoews | not sure how storing username/password would work with the gate though or if it's even possible. | 19:24 |
| etoews | either way it's a post-1.0 consideration. | 19:25 |
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| briancurtin | yeah, not sure how creds would work. the services which do third-party testing, like cinder and neutron, probably have something along the same lines, right? | 19:26 |
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| etoews | those are drivers though. not sure if secrets are required in those cases. | 19:27 |
| briancurtin | ah, true | 19:27 |
| etoews | anyway, i don't want to distract for 1.0 stuff. just something for future consideration. | 19:27 |
| etoews | my other thing was this. | 19:28 |
| etoews | https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstacksdk/+bug/1487150 | 19:28 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1487150 in OpenStack SDK "Object store set_object_metadata is a bit oddball" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Everett Toews (everett-toews) | 19:28 |
| etoews | i just picked that up | 19:28 |
| etoews | i chatted with brian a bit about it but wanted to chat briefly here too | 19:29 |
| etoews | here's what i'm currently thinking for the interface | 19:29 |
| etoews | set_account_metadata(metadata=None, **properties) | 19:29 |
| etoews | set_container_metadata(container, metadata=None, **properties) | 19:29 |
| etoews | set_object_metadata(obj, container=None, metadata=None, **properties) | 19:29 |
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| etoews | in object store terms, metadata is actually "custom" metadata | 19:30 |
| etoews | but it's similar to metadata in compute and it's only called metadata in compute | 19:31 |
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| etoews | (although the impl is very very different) | 19:31 |
| etoews | so i was thinking that you can set "metadata" on resources in object store | 19:32 |
| etoews | but if you want to set well-defined metadata (like "delete_after") then you can do that through **properties | 19:32 |
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| etoews | does that make sense? thoughts? | 19:33 |
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| rtheis | sounds good to me, but I'm not very familiar with object store | 19:36 |
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| briancurtin | of note: we talked about just making this set_metadata(…) and having one method for account, container, and object, but it becomes quite odd in that account is effectively the ‘base’ of all of this (it’s root of the REST API) and the others compound on top of it, so a single method API for this has a bunch of extra arguments we’d have to parse out | 19:36 |
| briancurtin | to figure out what is actually going on | 19:36 |
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| etoews | briancurtin: what do you think about the naming? i know it's a bit different from what we discussed earlier. | 19:37 |
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| briancurtin | etoews: i’m cool with it | 19:38 |
| etoews | k. i'll go forward with that. | 19:39 |
| etoews | thx | 19:39 |
| etoews | briancurtin: did you want to talk about https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstacksdk/+bug/1538267 at all? | 19:40 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1538267 in OpenStack SDK "Need RFC2616 formatter as a type for properties" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Brian Curtin (brian.curtin) | 19:40 |
| briancurtin | etoews: oh i abandoned that one and pushed a small change to just remove date from object | 19:40 |
| briancurtin | date and timestamp are the same value in different formats, so we don’t need to formatters to change them into the same datetime object | 19:41 |
| etoews | oh. gotcha. just need to kill off the issue then. | 19:41 |
| briancurtin | just marked as won’t fix | 19:41 |
| etoews | cool. | 19:41 |
| briancurtin | oh, the branch i intended to push got hung up when i lost internet. now it’s up: https://review.openstack.org/275385 | 19:42 |
| etoews | nice. we're closer to 1.0 than ever. | 19:44 |
| etoews | nothing else from me. | 19:45 |
| briancurtin | same | 19:45 |
| etoews | rtheis: terrylhowe: anything from yourselves? | 19:46 |
| rtheis | nothing else | 19:47 |
| terrylhowe | nothing here | 19:47 |
| briancurtin | cool, thanks everyone | 19:47 |
| etoews | thx | 19:47 |
| terrylhowe | thanks | 19:47 |
| briancurtin | #endmeeting | 19:47 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 2 19:47:17 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:47 |
| rtheis | thx | 19:47 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/python_openstacksdk/2016/python_openstacksdk.2016-02-02-19.00.html | 19:47 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/python_openstacksdk/2016/python_openstacksdk.2016-02-02-19.00.log.html | 19:47 |
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