Thursday, 2016-01-21

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elmikocalling all api-wg members, anyone here for the meeting?00:01
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elmikolast call for api-wg meeting, speak now or wait till next week ;)00:03
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mlavalle#startmeeting neutron_l315:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Jan 21 15:00:17 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3'15:00
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vikram_hi15:00
mlavallehi15:00
tidwellrhi15:00
diltramhi15:00
haleybhi15:00
mlavalle#topic Announcements15:01
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mlavalleToday Carl took the day off15:01
pavel_bondarhi15:02
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mlavalleAgenda is here https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron-L3-Subteam#Agenda15:02
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mlavalleThis week, Mitaka 2 was cut.... so we are on the final leg of the cycle15:03
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mlavalleAny other announcements from the team?15:03
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tidwellrdates for Mitaka-3?15:04
tidwellrI see 3-3-16, is that correct?15:04
mlavalletidwellr: yes, that is correct15:05
haleybhttp://docs.openstack.org/releases/schedules/mitaka.html15:05
mlavalleso that is a little more than a month15:06
mlavalleany other comments?15:06
mlavalleok, moving on.....15:06
mlavalle#topic Bugs15:06
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mlavalleThe good news this week, is we closed one high priority bug. Thanks to obondarev and the reviewers for their hard work15:07
mlavalleSo for this week, we have 2 high priority bugs15:08
mlavalleFirst up is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/147810015:08
openstackLaunchpad bug 1478100 in neutron "DHCP agent scheduler can schedule dnsmasq to an agent without reachability to the network its supposed to serve" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Cedric Brandily (cbrandily)15:08
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mlavalleCedric pushed PS32 a few days ago. It is ready for reviews15:09
* neiljerram arrives late15:09
mlavalleany additional comments?15:10
mlavalleOk, I encourage the team to review it15:11
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mlavalleNext bug up is: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/152708915:11
openstackLaunchpad bug 1527089 in neutron "[ipam] Port ID is not present in port dict that is passed to AddressRequestFactory" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Pavel Bondar (pasha117)15:11
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pavel_bondar#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/259697/15:12
pavel_bondarlatest PS3 got a lot of +115:12
mlavallepavel_bondar pushed PS3, which has been already reviewed by several people with +1. I think we now need a +215:12
pavel_bondarmlavalle, agree15:12
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mlavalleI'll leave a todo for Carl to spend some time with this patchset15:13
mlavalle#todo carl_baldwin to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/259697/15:14
mlavalleany additional comments?15:14
pavel_bondarno15:14
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mlavalleok, any bugs that the team might want to highlight?15:15
pavel_bondaryes, I have one15:15
pavel_bondarneed some attention for https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/153462515:15
openstackLaunchpad bug 1534625 in neutron "[Pluggable IPAM] Ipam driver is not called on update subnet if allocation pools are blank" [Undecided,New]15:15
diltramI would like to discuss about that HA split brain issue if we have some time15:15
pavel_bondarto decide whether it a bug or not15:15
mlavallepavel_bondar: at first glance, your suggested solution looks right to me. I encourgage the team to weigh in15:17
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pavel_bondarmlavalle, thanks!15:18
mlavallediltram: do you have a bug to show to the team?15:18
diltramhere is one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/137562515:18
openstackLaunchpad bug 1375625 in neutron "Problem in l3-agent tenant-network interface would cause split-brain in HA router" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Lubosz Kosnik (diltram)15:18
diltramand here is the second one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/136546115:18
openstackLaunchpad bug 1365461 in neutron "HA router should failover if GW address is not reachable" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Lubosz Kosnik (diltram)15:18
diltramI was writing an email about that today15:19
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diltramLike you can see Assaf write that probably it's the best possible solution which I proposed15:20
diltramand using it I will fix two bugs in one shot15:20
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mlavallediltram: so the proposed fix is this, correct? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/261942/15:21
diltramnot exactly15:21
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diltramIt's fixed proposed one year ago by Yonin Shafrir, but it's using only one script which is maintained by operator15:22
diltramand not on any neutron repo15:22
diltramso i proposed to rewrite that from the scratch15:22
mlavallediltram: that sounds good to me..... please go ahead and do it15:23
diltramif I will add to neutron/agent/linux/keepalived.py bash script generator we will have dedicated bash scripts per router15:23
diltramok, thank you15:23
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mlavallediltram: I suggest pinging amuller as soon as you have a patchset up for review15:24
diltramok, I will do that15:24
mlavalleany other bugs from the team?15:24
mlavalleok, moving on15:25
mlavallewe are skiping Router network segments, since Carl is off15:25
mlavalle#topic BGP dynamic routing15:26
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tidwellrhi15:26
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tidwellrI've been heads-down on this so we have code15:26
vikram_hi15:26
tidwellrthe question where we stick it, I understand armax has suggested we develop in the main repo during Mitaka then spin out during the N cycle15:27
vikram_https://review.openstack.org/#/c/268726/15:27
vikram_tidwellr: FYI https://review.openstack.org/#/c/268726/ is the review link15:28
tidwellrwe are prioritizing the changes that we absolutely need in the main repo and those are starting to merge15:28
haleybtidwellr: i will +A https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241062/ when the gate clears, it's still pretty ugly15:29
tidwellrhaleyb: thanks, that's the important one15:29
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mlavalletidwellr: are these the only 2 patchsets you need to merge in the main repo?15:30
tidwellrmlavalle: there may be 1 more, but yes not much code REQUIRED in the main repo15:31
mlavalleany other help you and vikram_ might need?15:31
vikram_tidwellr: where the rest of the code will go?15:31
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vikram_tidwellr: still we don't know, I suppose15:31
tidwellrI've been worrying about working code, it's easier if you show up with working code15:32
tidwellrbut this does need some resolution15:32
tidwellrI'll ping the ML today15:32
vikram_tidwellr: ok15:32
tidwellrthat's all I had15:33
mlavalletidwellr, vikram_: thanks for the update15:33
mlavalle#topic DNS15:34
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mlavalleI have addressed all the comments to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212213/15:34
mlavalleI tested and pushed for review the latest code15:34
mlavalleand I hit a global requirements change. We got a patchset from the bot that updates our requirements that got approved almost 2 days ago. Still waiting for it to merge. It's lost in the gate mess15:35
mlavalleyesterday it was 43rd in the line, last time I checked15:36
mlavalleif it doesn't make much progress today, I'll just rebase on top of it, so I can get reviews15:36
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mlavalleafter this lates patchset, I don't have any REST calls in any DB transaction, which was the sticking point. So I think it is in the home stretch15:37
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mlavallethat's all from me this week. Any questions?15:37
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mlavalleok, moving on15:38
mlavalle#topic Open discussion15:38
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mlavalleany topics to bring up to the team?15:38
mlavalleok, this is going to be a short one.... Returning 20 minutes to your agendas15:40
mlavallethanks for attending15:40
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mlavalle#endmeeting15:40
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docaedo#startmeeting app-catalog17:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Jan 21 17:01:51 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is docaedo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:01
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docaedocourtest ping: kfox1111 spzala ativelkov kzaitsev_ws17:02
docaedo#topic rollcall17:02
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kzaitsev_wso/17:02
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docaedoOur agenda is at17:02
docaedo#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/app-catalog17:02
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docaedoI'm switching things up just a tiny bit so spzala can help gather up the info we'll need for TOSCA, so..17:03
docaedo#topic Adding TOSCA to the catalog17:03
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docaedoFirst thing we need to cover is what gets hosted in the catalog?  My understanding is that we would have17:03
docaedoCSAR (contains template, scripts, binaries etc) and individual templates - but I'll let spzala take over now :)17:03
spzalathanks docaedo17:03
spzala:-) OK, sure. As you said, CSAR is a container file and for now as support two ext .zip and .csar17:04
spzalaindividual templates are .yaml17:04
spzalaso that's pretty much about what kinda format we can expect to host17:05
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docaedoI'm not as familiar as I would like to be when it comes to TOSCA - if I wanted to use a CSAR in my environment, would that be something I would have to unpack locally and feed to heat-translator or something? What's the use case like?17:05
spzalayup, so for tosca-parser and heat-translator the CSAR is expected as a .zip or .csar input and then it gets unpacked locally on a temp directory17:06
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spzalaand templates other artifacts in unpacked dir used for parsing and or tranlation17:06
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spzalaso you feed csar as such17:06
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spzalaand translator/parser will take it from there17:07
docaedook so if I have an environment with tosca-parser installed, can I give it a URL for a CSAR file? (just wondering I guess about the client side of this)17:07
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spzalayup17:07
docaedook cool, I think that makes sense to me17:07
spzalaOK cool17:08
spzalaand it's same for individual templates17:08
docaedoso we need to identify the metadata that we'd want to see, to add to the assets schema .. seems like we're just talking about two asset types (csar and template), would both have the same metadata associated with them?17:09
spzalaI need to understand that from you now on .. is there any example out there with metadata that i can refer to17:10
spzalafor example how it looks like for Heat templates17:10
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docaedosure - hold a sec for two quick example links17:11
spzalaI think we can keep it same, CSAR contains a meta file that translator/parser use to process it17:11
spzalaok, thx17:11
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docaedoThe schema is here:17:11
docaedo#link https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/app-catalog/tree/openstack_catalog/web/static/assets.schema.yaml17:11
docaedoand all the current assets are here:17:12
docaedo#link https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/app-catalog/tree/openstack_catalog/web/static/assets.yaml17:12
docaedofinally, example doc on the wiki here:17:12
docaedo#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/App-Catalog#Structure_of_Heat_entry17:12
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spzalathanks.. looking at it but need to understand it better something I would get back to you. Looking at the second link,17:15
docaedoI think we'd want to do something similar to murano assets, where there's a "format" field17:15
spzalathe flow will be similar to Heat templates with little change17:15
spzalayup I notice that at the end of the file17:15
docaedosure - the last link (from the wiki) probably is the cleanest view/example17:15
docaedoand happy to have you thinking about it for a bit, and ask questions on #openstack-app-catalog as they come up17:16
docaedoshould be easy stuff :)  In the mean time I'll create a blueprint similar to the one I made for mistral17:16
spzalayup it is.. sure, let me create a similar flow17:16
docaedo#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/app-catalog/+spec/add-mistral-assets17:16
docaedosince the steps will be similar17:16
spzalaand I will send it for a review17:16
docaedogood plan!17:16
spzalaOK, nice17:17
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spzalaSo that's an action item for me :-)17:17
docaedoyou got it - I'll make the blueprint right after this meeting (called add-tosca-assets)17:18
docaedoand will share link on app catalog channel17:18
docaedoany other questions/thoughts/issues on this topic?17:18
spzalaOK perfect17:19
spzalanope, good plan as you said17:19
spzalaso no questions from me17:19
docaedook, will move on to next topic momentarily (give anyone else a chance to wave)17:19
spzalathanks docaedo and all.. I am stepping away.17:20
docaedospzala: no prob, thanks for joining today!17:20
docaedo#topic Status updates17:20
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spzaladoceado: no problem!17:21
docaedoYesterday kfox1111 pushed up some good stuff for making the catalog a little more "dynamic"17:21
docaedo#link https://review.openstack.org/26708717:21
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docaedothat one is the key bit - it now determines the last modified time for each asset based on git17:22
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docaedothe last modified timestamp then shows up in the assets.json used by the website and the horizon plugin17:22
docaedofirst thing we'll do is work on a change to the site where it says "recently added apps" - that will become dynamic now, rather than static17:23
kzaitsev_mbWould probably be nice to add option on site to sort by the field17:23
docaedoyes that too (good reminder!)17:23
docaedoI also changed the dead-link checker to work with this17:23
docaedo#link https://review.openstack.org/26993517:23
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kzaitsev_mbrecently added and/or recently updated =)17:23
docaedo#link https://review.openstack.org/27057917:24
docaedoexactly - and can probably even make it select the top 10 entries that fit (ie. last 10 modified entries) and do a random pick from those, so it rotates a bit on reload17:24
docaedootherwise it'll probably be mostly static anyway :)17:25
docaedoreviews for 269935 would be good17:25
docaedoany other status updates? Otherwise I think we can talk about Glare/Glance for a bit (and if anyone has additional topics, please speak up and we'll have open discussion too)17:26
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docaedo#topic Discuss Glare outline/glare implementation17:27
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docaedo#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/app-cat-glare17:27
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docaedokzaitsev_mb: I think the outline is good, and the plan makes sense - and anyone who would have any strong objections has had a LOT of time to argue against17:28
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docaedoso I would like to start moving on this - have you been working on it? Are there any ways I can help out?17:29
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kzaitsev_mbI wanted to start working on it this Wednesday, but pip8 was released, and broke a couple of our gates =)17:30
kzaitsev_mbSo currently my closest plan would be to finish m-2 release chores and start makeing the glare plugin17:30
docaedohaha yeah that pip 8 fun, very exciting17:30
docaedothat's great - please put up status updates occasionally on the channel, especially if there's a WIP I could deploy locally to mess around with17:31
kzaitsev_mbnow we have pep8 which is good and pip8 that isn't (=17:31
docaedoFor the production implementation assume we're using trove for the DB btw17:31
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kzaitsev_mbdocaedo: would surely do, so.17:32
docaedokzaitsev_mb: thanks!17:32
docaedoI think we're good then, and maybe done?  Anyone else here want to talk about anything?17:33
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kzaitsev_mbdoes trove act as a drop-in server replacement? just wondering, haven't played with it yet17:33
docaedoI *believe* so, you basically get a mysql server, you just don't have to manage it (because infra isn't going to deal with managing a mysql server on the app catalog host - AFAIK they don't do that for anyway, just have everyone use trove)17:35
kzaitsev_mbwe'll find out then =)17:36
docaedoI think for testing, whatever the minimal local thing glare needs is fine, and when we get closer to something for production we can work out the details, but shouldn't require anything other than basically planning to use a mysql server17:36
docaedooh we can also assume we'll have access to swift for object storage17:36
docaedo(which of course makes the footprint for testing this .. non-trivial?)17:36
kzaitsev_mband sounds fair about infra folks, so yeah, using trove makes sense then17:37
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docaedoany questions or issues that you hit though, ask on the app-catalog channel and I'll figure it out17:38
docaedoseems like we're done for today? I don't have anything else, and I believe it's just kzaitsev_mb and me at this point :)17:39
kzaitsev_mbyep, seems, that we're done. Nice to see more assets flowing into the catalog =)17:40
docaedoyeah agreed - will be great to get mistral and tosca stuff in there17:40
docaedowell thanks for coming today, looking very much forward to seeing/helping with glare stuff!17:40
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SumitNaiksatamigordcard_: ivar-laz_ : hi18:01
ivar-laz_hi!18:01
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SumitNaiksatamrkukura_: hi, just waiting for you :-)18:01
SumitNaiksatam#startmeeting networking_policy18:02
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rkukurahi18:02
SumitNaiksatam#info agenda #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/GroupBasedPolicy#Jan_21st.2C_201618:02
SumitNaiksatammostly an on-demand agenda today18:02
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SumitNaiksatamthere are no critical outstanding bugs (some things got fixed over the course of last couple of weeks)18:03
SumitNaiksatamhemanthravi: hi18:03
hemanthraviSumitNaiksatam, hi18:03
SumitNaiksatamregarding functional tests - there were a new set ot tests posted by jishnu for gbpfunc and have merged in the master18:04
SumitNaiksatamneed to be backported18:04
SumitNaiksatamother than that i dont have update on the functional/integration tests18:05
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SumitNaiksatamfyi the tests which were merged were #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/268389/18:05
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: anything to update on the packaging side of things?18:06
rkukuranothing new18:06
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: okay18:06
SumitNaiksatam#topic liberty stable branch18:06
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SumitNaiksatamat this point i would like to propose creating the stable liberty branch18:07
SumitNaiksatamwe have let it sit for a few days after the liberty sync acitivity18:07
SumitNaiksatamdoes anyone need to post any new patches right away?18:08
SumitNaiksatamif not, i can go ahead with creating the branch today18:08
rkukurasounds good18:08
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: i think you need an updated release for the other stable branches as well, right?18:09
SumitNaiksatamfor proceeding with the packaging18:09
rkukurayes18:09
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: okay18:09
SumitNaiksatamafter we create the liberty branch we will immediately focus on aligning master with mitakak18:10
SumitNaiksatam*mitaka18:10
SumitNaiksatammeanwhile, we can continue to backport bug fixes wherever necessary18:10
SumitNaiksatam#topic Design Specs18:11
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SumitNaiksatamwe have the following outstanding specs:18:11
SumitNaiksatam#link https://review.openstack.org/242781 (introduce PT cluster_id for HA policy targets)18:11
SumitNaiksatamivar-laz_: this one is consistent with the current design, right?18:12
ivar-laz_yeah nothing changed lately on that18:12
SumitNaiksatamivar-laz_: ok good18:12
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: hemanthravi: lets review and plan on getting it merged soon18:13
rkukuraok18:13
hemanthraviok18:13
SumitNaiksatamthe other spec #link https://review.openstack.org/239743 (Network Service Framework for GBP)18:13
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: hemanthravi thanks18:13
SumitNaiksatamhemanthravi: that probably needs another iteration?18:14
hemanthravii'll be updating this spec based on the discussions18:14
hemanthraviand post a new one18:14
SumitNaiksatamhemanthravi: thanks18:14
SumitNaiksatamhemanthravi: is there anything specific that you would like to bring up for discussion here?18:15
SumitNaiksatamperhaps provide a summary of the discussions that you referred to?18:15
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hemanthravii'm looking at splitting into 2 specs, 1 for an API and one for a NS rendering framework based on current APIs18:16
SumitNaiksatamhemanthravi: that sounds good18:16
SumitNaiksatamhemanthravi: when you say API, this implies both northbound and southbound API?18:17
hemanthravirendering framework will listen to RPC events and provide a life cycle mgmt and configuration framework18:17
hemanthraviSumitNaiksatam, yes18:17
SumitNaiksatamhemanthravi: okay18:17
hemanthravidoing it this way as the northbound API might take a little longer to converge18:18
SumitNaiksatamsure18:18
SumitNaiksatamother than those two, i anticipate that we will be spending time in the next few weeks discussing new features and design18:19
SumitNaiksatamin the past few months we were focussed on bug fixing and stabilizing with fewer new features18:19
SumitNaiksatamso if you have been planning to introduce new specs, this is a good time18:19
SumitNaiksatamigordcard_: anything you wanted to discuss regarding the QoS support?18:20
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SumitNaiksatamperhaps he is away18:21
SumitNaiksatam#topic Open Discussion18:21
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SumitNaiksatamwe are still behind on the API and devref documentation18:22
SumitNaiksatamhopefully get a move on that soon18:22
SumitNaiksatamanything else anyone want to bring up?18:22
SumitNaiksatamalrighty, thanks everyone for your time18:24
SumitNaiksatam c ya next week18:24
SumitNaiksatambye!18:24
hemanthravibye18:24
ivar-laz_bye!18:24
SumitNaiksatam#endmeeting18:24
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