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elmiko#startmeeting sahara14:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Sep 10 14:00:12 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is elmiko. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
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openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: sahara)"14:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'sahara'14:00
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elmiko#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SaharaAgenda14:00
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elmikohi everybody =)14:00
weiting_hi14:01
vgridnevhey folks!14:01
kchenhi14:01
NikitaKonovalovo/14:01
crobertsrhhello/14:01
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AndreyPavlovhi14:01
egaffordo/14:02
elmiko#topic sahara@horizon status (crobertsrh, vgridnev)14:02
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vgridnevcrobertsrh, please reassign these bug on yourself: https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1445233 https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/144546714:02
openstackLaunchpad bug 1445233 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "[data processing] Add a "swift" toggle to the configure tab on Spark job launch" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Vitaly Gridnev (vgridnev)14:02
elmiko#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-reviews-in-horizon14:02
openstackLaunchpad bug 1445467 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "[data processing] Add data source substitution toggles to configure tab on job launch" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Vitaly Gridnev (vgridnev)14:02
vgridnevI just rebased your patches (due gate problems) and infra marked me as bug assignee.14:02
crobertsrhvgridnev:  Ok.  Thanks :)14:02
vgridnevwe got the FFE for the following change request: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/209683/ . So, we need add more reviews to that.14:03
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elmikonice14:03
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crobertsrhYeah, lots of merge action happening, which is encouraging.14:03
vgridnevAlso please more reviews for top 5 changes in etherpad14:03
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vgridnevthen we probably get them merged14:04
huichunSergeyLukjanov:  scheduler edp patch unit tests updated14:04
elmikosounds good, any other news about sahara@horizon?14:04
crobertsrhNothing from me14:05
vgridnevfrom me too14:05
elmiko#topic News / updates14:05
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elmikook everyone, whats been going on?14:05
sreshetnyako/14:05
vgridnevupdated several docs; trying fix our non-voting gate14:06
crobertsrhYes, lots of docs and reviews14:06
egaffordWorking on a new patch set for job interface map UI, to separate .js and .html.14:06
sreshetnyakI'm updates patches with swift + SSL support14:07
AndreyPavlovworking mostly on CLI stuff and a bit on docs update14:07
huichunsreshetnyak: sorry, @wrong person, scheduler edp patch unit tests updated14:07
elmikoi've been doing doc updates and working on the improved secret storage14:07
weiting_Working on a new patch for nfs as a data source.14:08
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elmikowe still need more reviews on the open doc patches, especially from cores14:08
elmiko#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-liberty-doc-update-day14:08
esikachevi've been start working on #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/sahara/+bug/146792214:09
openstackLaunchpad bug 1467922 in Sahara "[HBASE] Service has only 0 RegionServer, when HBASE_REGIONSERVER on every node" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to Evgeny Sikachev (esikachev)14:09
esikachevthis problem reproduced on cdh 5.4.014:09
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elmiko#topic Liberty-3 and FFEs14:11
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elmiko#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-liberty-ffes14:11
elmikoi *think* we tagged L314:12
elmikoso, we'll need to change that to Liberty.rc114:12
elmikowe have a few outstanding FFEs that need approval.14:12
elmikoi've seen folks commenting on the mailing list, which is really nice.14:12
elmikoplease take a moment to review the open FFEs and make a comment on the ML if you get a chance14:13
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elmikoi think we'll need to wait for SergeyLukjanov to return for approval14:13
elmikoany questions or comments about the FFE process, or the open FFEs?14:13
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crobertsrhSounds like no14:15
elmikorighto, moving along14:15
elmikoi think we've addressed the ceilometer issue, do we need to discuss it further?14:15
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vgridnevi think no14:16
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elmiko#topic Tokyo summit working group topic discussion14:16
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elmikowe will need to wait for SergeyLukjanov, but please start thinking about topics for our sessions at summit14:17
elmikoi don't think we have an etherpad up yet, so best to make a post to the ML if you have ideas about summit14:17
crobertsrhAnyone know how many sessions we will have?14:18
elmikoyea, let me see if i can dig it up14:18
elmikohmm14:18
elmikoSahara: 2fb, 5wr, cm:aft14:19
elmiko2 fishbowls, 5 working rooms14:19
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elmikocontributor meeting in the afternoon on friday14:20
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elmikoso, we'll need to fill that up =)14:20
crobertsrhThanks, I think I may have seen something like that.14:20
elmikoi'm guessing we'll do a security update, ui session, edp session14:21
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elmikomaybe a future roadmap/state of sahara type thing?14:21
elmikoso yea, please make a post to the ML if you have thoughts about summit sessions14:22
toskywasn't there also a note for a joint Zaqar/Sahara session?14:22
egaffordI'd still love to have a session about options for image generation; in order to expose any versatility in image gen to customers, I think we need to talk about options for streamlining that flow.14:22
egaffordtosky: Yup, we've talked about that.14:22
elmikotosky: yea, that would be ideal14:22
crobertsrhegafford, +1 to that14:23
egaffordPossibly even a joint Zaqar/Trove/Sahara session. :014:23
elmikowe need to speak with flaper87 again about this14:23
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elmikoegafford: joint trove/sahara would be awesome. we probably need to start attending their meetings and get some face time in14:23
flaper87o/14:24
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egaffordelmiko: Yeah, a few of us sat in last summit. More of that is better.14:24
egaffordflaper87: \o14:24
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elmikohey flaper87, we were just talking about wanting to discuss guest agent issues during summit14:25
flaper87I'm good for a joint session as loong as I don't need to sit there to 1) Explain what Zaqar is 2) Try to just *Sell* it.14:25
elmikowould be nice to maybe have some sahara/zaqar meetup14:25
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elmikohaha, definitely not. we'll come prepared14:25
flaper87The above relates to the results of the joint session w/ trove14:25
flaper87The session w/ Sahara was productive14:25
* elmiko is already experimenting with the api14:25
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flaper87elmiko: then sounds good to me :)14:25
vgridnevcan you this message?14:26
elmikovgridnev: can we what this message?14:26
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elmikoflaper87: ideally we will have an agenda for what we would like to discuss before summit, otherwise the time might be better spent in other ways14:27
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elmiko#topic Open discussion14:28
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egaffordflaper87: Sure; if Trove isn't on board, there's no need to include them. Totally agreed.14:28
flaper87egafford: elmiko: sounds perfect to me!14:28
elmikoany other business folks want to discuss?14:28
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crobertsrhNothing from me14:30
elmikoshall we reclaim 30minutes of the day then? ;)14:30
crobertsrhsold14:30
elmikogoing once...14:30
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elmikogoing twice...14:30
elmiko(speak now or hold your peace till next week)14:31
elmikosold!14:31
elmikothanks everyone!14:31
elmiko#endmeeting14:31
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carl_baldwinhi14:59
mlavalleahoy15:00
johnbelamarichello15:00
yamamotohi15:00
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carl_baldwin#startmeeting neutron_l315:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Sep 10 15:00:15 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is carl_baldwin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3'15:00
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carl_baldwin#topic Announcements15:00
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haleybhi15:00
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carl_baldwin#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron-L3-Subteam#Agenda15:00
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neiljerramhi15:00
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vikramhi15:01
carl_baldwinFor announcements, Liberty-3 has been cut and Neutron has a small number of FFEs.  Otherwise, we’re in bug smashing mode.15:01
pavel_bondarhi15:01
carl_baldwinThe QA mid-cycle is next week.  I’ll be attending.  I know regXboi will be too.15:01
carl_baldwinAny other announcements?15:02
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carl_baldwin#topic Bugs15:02
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mlavallehi15:02
carl_baldwinmlavalle: hi15:03
mlavalleso, https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/146117215:03
openstackLaunchpad bug 1461172 in neutron "neutron.tests.functional.agent.test_l3_agent.MetadataL3AgentTestCase.test_access_to_metadata_proxy times out intermittently" [Critical,Fix committed] - Assigned to Armando Migliaccio (armando-migliaccio)15:03
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carl_baldwinWe had a critical come in last night.  I just added it to the agenda.15:03
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mlavallearmax proposed and merged a fix for it15:03
carl_baldwinVery nice armax.15:03
mlavallean so far we haven't seen any new ocurrences15:03
mlavallejust checked a couple of minutes ago and the count is 015:04
carl_baldwinmlavalle: Great.15:04
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carl_baldwinI just realized that I probably didn’t add the new bug to the place on the wiki where we’re all probably looking.15:04
mlavalleregXboi removed a couple of high importance bugs yesterday from the agenda15:04
carl_baldwin#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/149411415:05
openstackLaunchpad bug 1494114 in neutron "Bad router request: Router already has a port on subnet" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to Carl Baldwin (carl-baldwin)15:05
pavel_bondarand I have #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/149435115:05
openstackLaunchpad bug 1494351 in neutron "Observed StaleDataError in gate-neutron-dsvm-api tests if reference IPAM driver is used" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Pavel Bondar (pasha117)15:05
pavel_bondarjust filed it today, probably too late15:05
mlavalleso we are making good progress with the high importance list as well15:05
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mlavallethe one reminaing is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/136547315:06
openstackLaunchpad bug 1365473 in neutron "Unable to create a router that's both HA and distributed" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Adolfo Duarte (adolfo-duarte)15:06
mlavalleI checked yesterday and it's been worked on. I'll keep tracking it15:06
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mlavalleI'll start working the new added by carl_baldwin and pavel_bondar15:07
carl_baldwin1365473 seems to be spawning other bugs...15:07
carl_baldwinpavel_bondar: I marked yours High.  Do you have a handle on it?  Or, do you need a hand?15:08
pavel_bondarI think I need a hand15:09
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pavel_bondarcarl_baldwin: have no yet much experience on issues like that: "UPDATE statement on table 'ipamavailabilityranges' expected to update 1 row(s); 0 were matched."15:10
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pavel_bondarso it may take a while to investigate15:10
carl_baldwinpavel_bondar: Since it doesn’t affect this release, I think its priority is inherently a little lower at this time.  Will you be around the neutron channel after the meeting?  We could look at it.15:11
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pavel_bondarcarl_baldwin: ok, if it is not time critical I can handle that15:11
pavel_bondarcarl_baldwin: will check on neutron channel after meeteing15:12
carl_baldwinmlavalle_: Do you have time to look in to https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1494114 ?  I can help with that too if you need.15:12
openstackLaunchpad bug 1494114 in neutron "Bad router request: Router already has a port on subnet" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to Carl Baldwin (carl-baldwin)15:12
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* mlavalle is sorry. got disconnected15:13
carl_baldwinmlavalle: No worries.  You back yet?15:13
mlavalleyeah15:13
mlavalle:-)15:13
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mlavallecarl_baldwin: I'll look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/149411415:16
openstackLaunchpad bug 1494114 in neutron "Bad router request: Router already has a port on subnet" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to Carl Baldwin (carl-baldwin)15:16
mlavalleif I need help, i'll yell15:16
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mlavalleand I'll add it to the correct section of the wiki15:17
carl_baldwinmlavalle: ok, I’ll be around (most of the time)15:17
carl_baldwinmlavalle: Thanks!  Anything else on bugs?15:17
mlavallenot from me15:17
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carl_baldwin#topic BGP15:18
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carl_baldwintidwellr: vikram: hi15:18
tidwellrhi15:18
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tidwellrwe've got progress, I was able to run things end-to-end late last week15:19
vikramhi15:19
carl_baldwintidwellr: awesome!15:19
tidwellrdiscovering issues along the way of course15:19
vikramI am also testing15:19
junowill not dynamic routing be integrated in liberty?15:19
tidwellrjuno: no, it won't make it15:20
junook15:20
tidwellrjuno: we're aiming for M-1 now15:20
vikramtidwellr: Did you tested it with quagga?15:20
junotidwellr: what M associate 1?15:20
vikramtidwellr: I am the actual peering?15:21
vikramjuno: Mitaka-115:21
tidwellrvikram: yes, had some fits and starts15:21
tidwellrvikram, they were mostly ryu issues15:21
vikramtidewellr: awesome:)15:21
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vikramtidewellr: please record the steps and logs.. we got to document it for Test Ref15:22
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vikramtest devref or so..15:22
tidwellrgiven the state of address scopes, I'm a little lost on how to proceed on advertising tenant networks via BGP15:23
carl_baldwinSounds like good progress.15:23
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tidwellrthat can be an offline discussion, I'm really focused on getting route advertisements flowing even if they're wrong15:23
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carl_baldwintidwellr: ping me on that.  Address scopes will be disabled for Liberty but is very near completion.15:24
tidwellrcarl_baldwin: ack15:24
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carl_baldwinI’m hoping to get some of the refactoring and general enhancements merged soon.  Then full address scopes functionality should be a matter of cherry-picking a couple of patches.15:25
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carl_baldwinI talked to mestery about continuing to merge some of the patches that I have lined up which are small general fixes and prepare the way for the real implementation.15:25
tidwellrok, so early in Mitaka we should see it merged?15:26
carl_baldwinSo, haleyb and ZZelle can continue to merge those and then merged the final implementation soon after Mitaka opens.15:26
carl_baldwins/merged/merge/15:26
carl_baldwintidwellr: yes15:27
tidwellrawesome15:27
haleybcarl_baldwin: ack, was wondering about those ip_lib changes15:27
vikramcarl_baldwin: Thanks15:27
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tidwellrthose patches will merge before BGP does, so no worries then15:27
carl_baldwinhaleyb: If you’re comfortable with the changes going in at this stage then you can +2/+A as appropriate.15:28
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carl_baldwinMost of them are pretty innocuous, I think.  But, I’m biases since I’m the author.15:28
carl_baldwin:)15:28
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carl_baldwintidwellr: You may need to modify your local code to reenable address scopes.  I’ll post a patch to do that as soon as Mitaka opens.15:29
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carl_baldwintidwellr: Essentially, revert this patch locally:  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221502/15:30
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tidwellrright, that's just a one-liner15:30
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tidwellrnothing else from me15:32
carl_baldwintidwellr: Thanks15:32
carl_baldwin#topic DNS15:32
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mlavallehi again15:32
carl_baldwinmlavalle: Still connected?  :)15:32
mlavalleyeah :-)15:32
mlavalleso the functionality for floating ips in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212213/ is complete15:32
mlavalletoday I am working on the allmbic migration script15:33
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mlavalleonce I have that, I will be able to deploy the patchset to my devstack and test the functionality end to end15:33
mlavallethat will happen today and tomorrow15:33
mlavalleso by next week I am hoping I will have this functionality debugged15:34
carl_baldwinmlavalle: Excellent.15:34
carl_baldwinmlavalle: Did you have any thoughts on connecting VMs directly to a external network?15:34
mlavalleyes, that is the next stage....15:35
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mlavalleI wanted to have to have the fip functionality ready, to secure the presentation / demo in Tokyo15:35
carl_baldwinmlavalle: I feel like I’ve thought this through before but my memories are fading.  Could we discuss it in channel sometime?  Maybe after we get the critical bugs squashed?15:35
carl_baldwinmlavalle: That sounds like a good plan.15:35
mlavalleonc fips are good, i'll loop back to the VM's connected to external networks15:36
carl_baldwinmlavalle: Also, as we’re beginning to route internal addresses to the external networks without NAT, we should think about how this DNS work will need to adapt.15:36
mlavallewill do.....15:37
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carl_baldwinWe’ve got some time and don’t need to hold up the floating IP stuff you’re wrapping up.15:37
mlavallethe other aspect is that we are going to need designate + neutron in the gate to merge all this15:37
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mlavalleKiall will start or started yesterday an email thread to get help form the infra guys15:38
carl_baldwinmlavalle: That is a good point.  I was lurking yesterday (or the day before) in the designate meeting.15:38
mlavallehe will be cooying carl_baldwin in that email15:38
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carl_baldwinmlavalle: I will look for it.  Will it be on the ML?15:38
mlavalleyes, ML thread15:38
carl_baldwinGreat.15:39
mlavalleand that's it this week for DNS update15:39
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carl_baldwinmlavalle: Thanks.15:39
carl_baldwin#topic Address Scopes15:40
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carl_baldwinI think I’ve already given my update.  But, I’ll summarize.15:40
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carl_baldwinThe API extension will be reenabled as soon as Mitaka opens with this:  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/222250/15:40
carl_baldwinIf you need to play with it, you’ll want to cherry-pick that patch locally.15:41
carl_baldwinI just didn’t want people playing with the API and get a false sense for how it will really behave without the complete implementation.15:41
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carl_baldwinThat’s about it from me.15:42
carl_baldwin#topic Open Discussion15:42
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carl_baldwinHave I missed any topics that we should discuss today?15:42
mlavalleI don't think so15:43
carl_baldwinok  We’ll get some time back.15:44
* carl_baldwin goes to tackle the critical bugs.15:44
carl_baldwin#endmeeting15:44
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openstackMeeting ended Thu Sep 10 15:44:29 2015 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)15:44
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mlavallebye15:44
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elmiko#startmeeting api wg16:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Sep 10 16:00:05 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is elmiko. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'api_wg'16:00
elmikohi everyone =)16:00
cdento/16:00
elmiko#topic agenda16:00
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elmiko#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/API-WG#Agenda16:00
elmikolet's give folks a few minutes16:01
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Nikolay_Sthi16:01
ryansbhey folks16:01
elmikohey16:01
edleafeo/16:01
stevelleo/16:02
miguelgrinberghello16:02
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elmikocool, good crowd today =)16:02
elmikolooks like we had no action items from last time16:02
elmiko#topic Mitaka sessions16:03
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elmiko#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-api-wg-session-plans16:03
elmikowe have one big session for tokyo16:03
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elmikoso far there is an outline forming there, but i welcome any additions for topics that should be addressed16:04
elmikohopefully, we'll flesh that out more before summit16:04
elmiko#topic guidelines16:05
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elmikoso, we have the dashboard up #link http://ghostcloud.net/openstack_gerrit_dashboards/dashboard_api-wg.html16:05
elmikoare there any new guidelines that folks would like to highlight, or suggestions for freeze?16:06
ryansbI'd like to remind folks of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/217764/16:06
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ryansb(which is ready for freeze, btw)16:06
elmikook, cool. i will mark that as +2 and put it up for freeze16:07
ryansband also reminder to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/21481716:07
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elmikooh, actually that is process related so we don't need to freeze it16:07
ryansbit's not (IMO) freeze-ready yet16:07
ryansbbut more reviews more better16:07
elmiko+116:07
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elmikothis one #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/187112/ could also use some reviews16:08
elmikoi don't think its ready yet, but it will be nice to have. we just need to clean the language up16:08
elmikoany other guidelines to  mention?16:09
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elmikoactually, #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221163/16:10
elmikoi think that is close to freeze, but needs a few more reviews16:10
ryansbthose are the only two I wanted to point out16:10
ryansboops, forgot to #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/21481716:11
elmikook, so more reviews then we have a couple ready for freeze16:11
ryansbooh, hadn't seen that one elmiko, thanks for the pointer16:11
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elmikowe probably won't have any new freezes to announce for next week16:12
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elmiko#topic APIImpact16:12
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elmiko#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+AND+(message:ApiImpact+OR+message:APIImpact),n,z16:12
elmikoany reviews that should be highlighted?16:12
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cdentI had a nice chat with flaper87 about this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/219649/16:13
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cdentwas glad to see it happening16:13
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* flaper87 bows and thanks cdent for the feedback16:14
elmikointeresting, hadn't seen that16:14
elmikocdent: is this something we could spin into a guideline, or are we already advising this?16:14
cdentI don't know. Until it came up I hadn't realized anyone would do anything differently16:15
elmikoyea, seems like you wouldn't want to do that16:15
elmikolooks like we are getting lots of usage out of the APIImpact flag though, which is nice16:16
ryansb+116:16
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edleafeelmiko: +116:17
elmikoi wonder if there is something more formalized we should do to help add comments on these. i almost feel like there are so many to look at. any thoughts?16:17
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ryansbI think just asking members to cover whatever they can is the way to go16:18
elmikothat's fair, i was just kinda thinking out loud =)16:18
ryansbwe're just a working group, so our capacity shouldn't be blocking other projects, but when possible we should try to provide all the feedback we can16:18
elmikoagreed16:19
ryansbI'm not sure any policy would be helpful, other than "there are lots to look at, cover what's possible"16:19
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elmikoyea, i was thinking something along the lines of like the "office hours" that are held by... governance?16:20
elmikolike, could we make a 1hour slot during the week that folks might assemble in openstack-api for the purpose of reviewing some APIImpact stuff?16:20
elmikomaybe that's too formalized though16:20
ryansbyeah, I'd be mildly -1 on that16:21
elmikoyea, i think it's too much16:21
elmikoagain, just spit-balling16:21
elmikook, anyone else want to highlight a review?16:21
ryansbDo the docs on the APIImpact flag also point to our IRC channel?16:22
elmikogood question16:22
ryansbif not, maybe that'd be the way to go for folks who have an api-impacting change that want to ask questions16:22
elmiko+116:22
elmiko#action elmiko check APIImpact docs to make sure they also mention #openstack-api channel16:23
cdentI think we need to do a bit of work to make it easier for those of us who are api-wg oriented to devote real time toit16:23
cdentas it is, right now I always feel a bit like it is stolentime16:23
elmikoagreed, not sure what we could do. reviewing them during out meetings seems like a nice middle ground though16:24
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elmikomaybe for meetings without a large agenda we should queue up a few to review as a group?16:25
elmikoi dunno, something to think about i suppose16:25
ryansbcdent: yeah, I have a calendar event set aside for api reviews weekly, and whenever there are replies to things I've reviewed already I see those when I do the rest of my reviews16:25
cdentone of the topics at summit is "how to get (and be) more engaged and engaging"16:25
ryansbbut that's about the maximum structure possible with the existing setup16:26
elmikocdent: +116:26
elmikoi like that idea ryansb16:26
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ryansb(also, obligatory plug for gertty)16:26
cdentgiven the number of apiimpact tagged things, and the relatively strong flow of guidelines, we probably have some useful metrics to wave around16:26
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ryansbit's like 10x more efficient for me to do reviews that way16:26
cdentit is very cool but I ended up not sticking with it. not sure why16:27
elmikogonna have to check it out16:27
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elmiko#topic Open discussion16:29
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elmikoany other business?16:29
cdentnot from me16:30
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edleafenope16:30
ryansbnot I16:30
elmikoshall we all go review APIImpact stuff for the next 30 min. ;)16:30
edleafeseconded!16:30
Nikolay_Stoh16:30
elmikook, thanks everybody!16:30
elmiko#endmeeting16:31
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docaedoAnyone here for the app catalog meeting today?17:01
kfox1111o/17:01
docaedo#startmeeting app-catalog17:01
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docaedo#topic rollcall17:02
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docaedoo/17:02
kfox1111o/17:02
docaedoThink this is going to be fast today :)17:02
docaedo#topic Status updates17:02
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docaedofor the sake of having a meeting record, I can update the devstack plugin for app-catalog-ui17:03
kfox1111+117:03
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docaedo#link https://review.openstack.org/22197017:04
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docaedoWe merged it yesterday, so now it's super easy for people to get a look at the app catalog UI work17:04
docaedoI'll send a note out to the ML about that today or tomorrow, just to get a little more visibility there17:04
kfox1111yay! :)17:04
docaedoOther update - tomorrow our repos move from stackforge to openstack!17:05
kfox1111also yay! :)17:05
docaedoWill happen at (I think) 2300 UTC17:05
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kfox1111might wait for the ML list anouncement till right after the move then.17:05
docaedoooh good idea17:05
kfox1111since we will have to fix up the docs.17:05
docaedoI also gave myself a few to-dos for updating links to the repo (on website, app-catalog-ui readme, and wiki)17:06
kfox1111cool. thanks. :)17:06
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docaedokfox1111: any updates from you?17:06
kfox1111just the patches that went in to get the devstack stuff working.17:06
kfox1111the plugin seems relatively close to done now. focusing a bit more on restarting the stalled instance-user spec.17:07
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docaedocool :)17:08
docaedosince it's just us, anything else?  Otherwise open discussion will just happen on #openstack-app-catalog17:08
kfox1111any updates on a glance poc?17:08
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docaedonot that I'm aware of17:09
kfox1111k. :/17:09
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docaedook - think we're done, what do you think?17:10
docaedoaaaaaand.... we're out!17:11
docaedo#endmeeting17:11
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SumitNaiksatamhi17:59
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ivar-lazzaroSumitNaiksatam: hi18:00
rkukurahi18:00
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SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: rkukura mageshgv: hi18:02
mageshgvhi18:02
SumitNaiksatam#startmeeting networking_policy18:02
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SumitNaiksatam#info agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/GroupBasedPolicy#Sept_3rd.2C_10th_201518:03
SumitNaiksatamlet’s change the order of topics a little and tackle the shorter items first18:03
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SumitNaiksatam#topic Integration tests18:04
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SumitNaiksatamransari: hi18:04
ransariHi18:04
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SumitNaiksatamso per discussion earlier, i have posted this patch which moves the gbpfunctests into the tree #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/222048/218:05
SumitNaiksatamsince this is kind of an “external” test suite by Jishnu, we have added it to the contrib directory18:05
SumitNaiksatamso its not subject to pep8 and other checks18:06
SumitNaiksatambut at least this way we have it in tree18:06
SumitNaiksatamthoughts?18:06
rkukuramakes sense to me18:06
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SumitNaiksatamthis will allow us to update the integration tests along with the changes that we introduce with the patches18:06
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: okay18:07
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: thanks for the review18:07
SumitNaiksatami have updated the README18:07
ivar-lazzaroSumitNaiksatam: nice18:07
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: i think you asked about multinode?18:07
ivar-lazzaromore generally, how you define the testbed18:07
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: that is an artifact of the devstack job itself18:08
SumitNaiksatamthis is single node18:08
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SumitNaiksatami am not sure that there are any other multi-node jobs that are supported18:08
SumitNaiksatambut i am happy to be corrected18:08
ivar-lazzarowhat if I already have an openstack installation somewhere? Can I run the suite against it?18:09
ivar-lazzarojust like tempest can?18:09
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: yes18:09
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: the test suite basically makes CLI calls18:09
SumitNaiksatamand does not assume anything about how the infra is deployed18:10
ivar-lazzarook, so I just need to install the suite in the controller18:10
SumitNaiksatamit also does not configure anything18:10
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: yes18:10
ivar-lazzaroor configure CLI properly18:10
ivar-lazzarook18:10
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SumitNaiksatamso hopefully we can get this merged in after it passes the gate18:11
ivar-lazzarocool! When I get some time I'll try do PEP8ize the suite, good excuse to go through the code more carefully18:11
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: great, thanks! ;-)18:12
SumitNaiksatamregarding the rally job18:12
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SumitNaiksatamit is now possible to get a failed job status if any of the tests is not successful 100% of the time18:13
SumitNaiksatamYi: hi18:13
SumitNaiksatamhowever, i have hesitated to instrument this in our job18:13
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SumitNaiksatamsince we have some pending issues in the existing code18:14
SumitNaiksatamwe need to figure out a way on how we can transition to make use of the rally test feedback to avoid new issues creeping while fix the existing ones18:14
SumitNaiksatam*while we18:15
SumitNaiksatami believe most of the time we are hitting the create PTG issue that rkukura is investigating and we will get to in a bit18:15
rkukuraI hope to have a fix for that one very soon18:15
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SumitNaiksatamso may be if we figure out a solution for that, we can transition to gating on the rally job as well18:16
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: great!18:16
SumitNaiksatam#topic Packaging18:16
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SumitNaiksatamrkukura: anything to update?18:16
rkukuraNothing new on packaging from me. I’m planning to look into RDO’s delorean automated package build system as soon as I get a chance.18:17
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rkukuraAnd get RDO (and Fedora if still relevant) packages available for stable/juno and kilo in the next couple weeks.18:18
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SumitNaiksatamrkukura: okay thanks18:18
SumitNaiksatam#topic Bugs18:18
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SumitNaiksatamlist go through the list of prioritized bugs18:19
SumitNaiksatam#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/group-based-policy/+bug/148865218:19
openstackLaunchpad bug 1488652 in Group Based Policy "Implicit L3Policy Creation fails when multiple subnet are configured for an external network" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Ivar Lazzaro (mmaleckk)18:19
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: thanks for the posting the patch #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221898/18:20
ivar-lazzarothat's ready for review!18:20
SumitNaiksatamransari: this is supposed to address the bug you had raised18:20
SumitNaiksatamransari: it at least avoids the case where using floating IPs from teh external subnet pool exhausts the pool and no new l3ps can be associated with the external network18:21
SumitNaiksatamransari: will help if you can take a look at the patch18:21
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SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: any chance that you can update the commit message with some of the rationale (and high level workflow changes) that you were mentioning?18:23
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ivar-lazzarosure18:24
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: thanks18:24
SumitNaiksatami believe mageshgv is validating #link https://review.openstack.org/17932718:24
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SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: not sure you got a chance to look at this: #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/group-based-policy/+bug/148674018:25
mageshgvSumitNaiksatam: Actually not me, but I believe ransari tried it our earlier18:25
openstackLaunchpad bug 1486740 in Group Based Policy "GBP Ext-Seg: L3Policy cannot be updated to a new Ext-Seg" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Ivar Lazzaro (mmaleckk)18:25
SumitNaiksatambut it might probably be not that big18:25
SumitNaiksatammageshgv: ah ok18:25
SumitNaiksatamransari: thats great18:25
ivar-lazzaroSumitNaiksatam: haven't looked at that yet18:26
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: i believe you were also playing around with #link https://review.openstack.org/179327?18:26
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rkukuraI had looked at it a while back18:26
rkukuraLooks like I gave it a +2 back then - can re-review18:27
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rkukuraonce its rebased18:27
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SumitNaiksatamoh thats the wrong lin18:27
SumitNaiksatamlink18:27
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SumitNaiksatami meant #link https://review.openstack.org/16642418:27
rkukuraThat makes more sense18:28
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rkukuraI’m trying to get the nova driver to work with it, but still not successfully18:28
SumitNaiksatamsorry about the confusion18:28
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SumitNaiksatamrkukura: okay18:29
rkukuraIt may be my own confusion on how I had gotten the nova node driver to work before.18:29
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: is it issues with ivar-lazzaro’ s patch or issues on the nova driver side?18:29
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: okay18:29
SumitNaiksatammageshgv: so you are validating the above, right?18:29
rkukuraI think ivar-lazzaro’s patch is working as intended, I just don’t seem to be able to get the ‘service’ tenant credentials18:30
mageshgvSumitNaiksatam: yes, I am on it since yesterday18:30
SumitNaiksatammageshgv: yes, we are eager to hear how its going? ;-)18:30
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: okay18:30
mageshgvThe patch works fine, just a few minor issues, will send them out18:31
* ivar-lazzaro brace himself for all the incoming issues and curses18:31
mageshgv:-18:31
SumitNaiksatammageshgv: ivar-lazzaro :-)18:31
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: to me sounds like mageshgv is happy :-)18:31
mageshgvSumitNaiksatam, ivar-lazzaro: Just tested one chain, create and delete :)18:32
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SumitNaiksatammageshgv: nice18:32
SumitNaiksatammageshgv: which node driver are you using?18:32
SumitNaiksatambase Heat or OC?18:32
mageshgvSumitNaiksatam: I am using a custom node driver that our One Convergence team is developing18:33
SumitNaiksatammageshgv: okay, but thats kind of a superset of the Heat node driver?18:33
mageshgvSumitNaiksatam: Kind of, but with a change in model that it uses Heat driver only for configuration and Nova for instantiation18:33
SumitNaiksatammageshgv: ok18:34
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SumitNaiksatammageshgv: but the plumber aspects will apply to both drivers almost in an identical way i guess18:34
mageshgvSumitNaiksatam: Actually the Heat driver does not use the plumber, but our One Convergence driver does18:35
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SumitNaiksatammageshgv: okay, i will sync up after this18:35
mageshgvSumitNaiksatam: okay18:35
ivar-lazzaromageshgv: are you using the traditional RMD or the APIC driver?18:35
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mageshgvivar-lazzaro: Right now I am using APIC on the setup, but my UTs are against RMD :-18:36
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: mageshgv my understanding was that the plumber should be usable with the RMD and the Heat Node driver as is, right?18:37
mageshgvivar-lazzaro: So it should work with both unless the UTs do not cover some aspect18:37
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ivar-lazzaromageshgv: well, datapath may be the issue there18:37
ivar-lazzarobut now we have functional tests in tree! So we just need to run them against RMD :-)18:37
mageshgvSumitNaiksatam: No, we will need enhancements to the heat node driver if it has to instantiate a VM as part of  the template18:38
SumitNaiksatammageshgv: i see, what you are saying is that the plumber is not relevant if we are not spinning up VMs18:38
mageshgvivar-lazzaro: Right, we can add data path tests as well in tree18:38
mageshgvSumitNaiksatam: right18:38
mageshgvivar-lazzaro: although we need a lot more work for that :-18:39
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SumitNaiksatam#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/group-based-policy/+bug/146202418:39
openstackLaunchpad bug 1462024 in Group Based Policy "Concurrent create_policy_target_group call fails" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Robert Kukura (rkukura)18:39
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SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: mageshgv: thanks18:40
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SumitNaiksatamrkukura: over to you18:40
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: sounded like you had a better handle on the above?18:40
rkukuraI think there is a relatively straightforward fix for this, that will work as long as overlapping L3Ps per tenant are forbidden.18:40
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: okay, i think we can certainly start with that18:41
ivar-lazzarorkukura: would it be terribly hard to move to a more generic solution once we allow that?18:41
rkukuraBut if/when that restriction is relaxed, a somewhat more invoved fix will be needed to prevent multiple default L3Ps from getting created.18:41
rkukuraI think the simpler fix first makes sense, and will try to get that into review tomorrow.18:41
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SumitNaiksatamrkukura: i agree, i think we should first fix the feature (or constraints) we are supporting today18:42
rkukuraOK18:43
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: any update on #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/group-based-policy/+bug/1417312 and #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/group-based-policy/+bug/147064618:43
openstackLaunchpad bug 1417312 in Group Based Policy "GBP: Existing L3Policy results in failure to create PTG with default L2Policy" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Robert Kukura (rkukura)18:43
openstackLaunchpad bug 1470646 in Group Based Policy "Deleting network associated with L2P results in infinite loop" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to Robert Kukura (rkukura)18:43
rkukuraNo, I’ll investigate those later today.18:43
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: okay18:44
SumitNaiksatammageshgv: over to you - any updates on #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/group-based-policy/+bug/1489090 and #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/group-based-policy/+bug/141883918:44
openstackLaunchpad bug 1489090 in Group Based Policy "GBP: Resource intergrity fails between policy-rule-set & external-policy" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Magesh GV (magesh-gv)18:44
openstackLaunchpad bug 1418839 in Group Based Policy "Service config in yaml cannot be loaded" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Magesh GV (magesh-gv)18:44
mageshgvHave to add validation to reject deletion of inuse External policy. Its a straight forward one, will post a fix soon18:45
mageshgvThe second one is something local to Heat node driver18:45
SumitNaiksatammageshgv: thanks18:46
SumitNaiksatamany other major issues that have popped up and we did not cover?18:46
SumitNaiksatamthere are a few things in the UI which we really need to fix asap, but i dont think anyone working on the UI is here18:46
SumitNaiksatam#topic Open Discussion18:47
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SumitNaiksatami had one thing to bring up regarding the client18:47
SumitNaiksatamour juno CLI/client (used to be 0.9.1) was dependent on neutron client 2.3.918:47
SumitNaiksatamthis was before we had a stable branch for the client18:48
SumitNaiksatamthe rest of OpenStack Juno packages use neutronclient 2.3.1218:48
SumitNaiksatamand 2.3.9 and 2.3.12 dont seem to be compatible18:48
SumitNaiksatamso far we have been able to get around this by pinning to 2.3.9 in devstack18:49
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rkukuraShouldn’t we depend on >= 2.3.X and < 2.4, where 2.3.x is the version we test with?18:49
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: yeah18:50
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: the point i am trying to bring up is the we might be sitting on a ticking time bomb18:50
ransari<SumitNaiksatam>: Will look at this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221898/18:50
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SumitNaiksatamand now that we have a separate stable/juno branch for the client18:50
SumitNaiksatamwe should move our client to depend on neutron client 2.3.12 (as other openstack packages)18:51
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: i just want to make sure that this will not have any unintended side effects with existng packages18:51
rkukuraSumitNaiksatam: Shouldn’t we let that float upwards?18:51
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SumitNaiksatamransari: great, thanks18:51
rkukuraI.e. >= 2.3.12, < 2.4?18:51
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: right18:52
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: but today we are at 2.3.918:52
SumitNaiksatamand to move to 2.3.12, we need some fixes18:52
SumitNaiksatamwhich i wil post, however, i just wanted a sanity check from the team here, that doing this will not have any impact on existing installations18:52
SumitNaiksatamso if you cant think of anything, then may be i will go ahead with the changes18:54
SumitNaiksatamwe have also updated our devstack install process18:54
SumitNaiksatamwe no longer have a separate branch for devstack18:54
SumitNaiksatamwe are patching the upstream devstack branch18:55
SumitNaiksatam#link https://github.com/group-policy/gbp-devstack18:55
SumitNaiksatamthis is still not the plugin approach that we should be following18:55
SumitNaiksatamhowever, there are some quirks that need a little bit of ironing out before we get to that18:56
SumitNaiksatambut even with this patch approach, we no loner have to merge changes from teh upstream devstack branch18:56
SumitNaiksatammageshgv: we also update the service chain exercise scripts on stable/juno, right?18:57
mageshgvSumitNaiksatam: yes, we have it in stable/juno as well18:57
SumitNaiksatam*updated18:57
mageshgvSumitNaiksatam: right, its in sync with master18:57
SumitNaiksatammageshgv: great, so we are completely in sync on that branch18:57
SumitNaiksatammageshgv: great18:57
SumitNaiksatam2 mins left, anything else we want to discuss today?18:58
SumitNaiksatamalright, thanks everyone for your time18:58
ivar-lazzarothanks! bye18:58
SumitNaiksatambye!18:58
rkukuraI should mention that I will be on PTO Monday and Tuesday, and am not likely to answer emails those days.18:58
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: okay18:59
SumitNaiksatam#endmeeting18:59
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mageshgvbye18:59
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mattgriffin#startmeeting HA-Guide20:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Sep 10 20:01:37 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mattgriffin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.20:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.20:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'ha_guide'20:01
mattgriffinhello! anyone else here for the HA Guide meeting?20:01
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mattgriffini'll wait a few minutes for others20:02
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mattgriffin#endmeeting20:17
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