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pc_m | hi | 16:00 |
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madhu_ak | o/ | 16:01 |
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ajmiller | o/ | 16:02 |
pc_m | giving a few minutes for people to join | 16:02 |
pc_m | #startmeeting vpnaas | 16:04 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 8 16:04:11 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is pc_m. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:04 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:04 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'vpnaas' | 16:04 |
pc_m | #topic announcements | 16:04 |
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pc_m | The endpoint-groups code is out for review, along with the neutron-client changes. | 16:05 |
beagles | o/ | 16:05 |
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pc_m | I *may* have a version of the scripts working that will allow for VPN functional tests on Neutron jobs. | 16:06 |
pc_m | Testing, but it works pretty good so far. | 16:06 |
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pc_m | There is a fix out for review for coverage testing. | 16:06 |
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pc_m | Finally, the neutron client experimental job is out for review. Needs core review and then infra review. | 16:07 |
pc_m | beagles: hi | 16:07 |
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pc_m | Anyone have any other big announcements? | 16:07 |
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beagles | I have an potential issue I would like to bring up - is this the appropriate time or is there a better spot in the agenda? | 16:08 |
pc_m | beagles: wait for open discussion. | 16:08 |
beagles | right | 16:08 |
pc_m | #topic Endpoint Groups | 16:08 |
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pc_m | Please help review the code #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212692/ and neutron-client https://review.openstack.org/#/c/219455/ | 16:09 |
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pc_m | The developer reference doc on this (and the multiple local subnet feature) has been upstreamed. | 16:10 |
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pc_m | #topic Multiple Local Subnets | 16:10 |
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pc_m | The dev ref is #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191944 | 16:10 |
pc_m | Will start on this, as soon as the endpoints code is upstreamed. | 16:11 |
pc_m | #topic VPN Functional Tests | 16:11 |
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pc_m | So it looks like #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203201/14 may do the trick. | 16:11 |
pc_m | I tested a neutron fix with a bug and without a bug and the VPN tests failed/passed, as expected. | 16:12 |
pc_m | Will likely wait for dougwig to get back and work on core reviews. | 16:12 |
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pc_m | #topic Reviews | 16:13 |
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pc_m | Please help out... https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron-vpnaas,n,z | 16:13 |
pc_m | For bugs, we have https://goo.gl/XNtnLX for the latest. | 16:13 |
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pc_m | I think most have people assigned (Yay!) | 16:14 |
pc_m | Any particular bugs we need to discuss here? | 16:15 |
madhu_ak | yes. https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1491679 | 16:15 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1491679 in neutron "ipsec-site-connection is not back to ACTIVE state after updating admin_state_up from True -> False -> True" [Undecided,New] | 16:15 |
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pc_m | madhu_ak: go ahead... | 16:16 |
madhu_ak | based on my research, I concluded that, when using openswan vs strongswan, I found it is working well when using later than former | 16:16 |
madhu_ak | With strongswan, its is minutes longer to see the respective status.. | 16:17 |
madhu_ak | s/its is/its taking | 16:17 |
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pc_m | so you are changing the admin status of the connection, right? | 16:18 |
madhu_ak | Righ | 16:18 |
madhu_ak | Right | 16:18 |
pc_m | With both OpenSwan and Strongswan are they stopping and then resuming status? | 16:19 |
pc_m | On their own, or with traffic? | 16:19 |
madhu_ak | with openswan, it dont..with strongswan it does | 16:19 |
pc_m | Let's take one at a time... | 16:20 |
pc_m | With OpenSwan, does it work if you admin stop/start both sides? | 16:20 |
madhu_ak | nope.. | 16:20 |
pc_m | what about when DPD is changed? | 16:21 |
pc_m | (mode) | 16:21 |
madhu_ak | with openswan, I changed the dp action to restart, the traffic still flows when changing admin state as stop | 16:21 |
pc_m | I know there are several different settings. | 16:21 |
pc_m | madhu_ak: that's bad. | 16:22 |
pc_m | Did you find any bug reports on OpenSwan | 16:22 |
pc_m | ? | 16:22 |
madhu_ak | have seen people discussiong about dpd status with openswan.. | 16:22 |
pc_m | There are other modes too, not sure if any help there. | 16:23 |
madhu_ak | I *understood* that, dpd actions does not work proper with openswan | 16:23 |
pc_m | For StrongSwan, does it work, but takes longer than expected? | 16:23 |
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madhu_ak | yep, for strongswan, its works, but taking longer time than expected.. | 16:23 |
madhu_ak | even with dpd action, interval and timeout, stringswan takes time to update | 16:24 |
pc_m | more than a minute beyond setting? | 16:24 |
madhu_ak | yep | 16:24 |
madhu_ak | roughly, 15-20 minutes | 16:24 |
pc_m | wow | 16:24 |
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pc_m | Did you happen to try IKEv2? | 16:25 |
pc_m | I hear that has the DPD built in. | 16:25 |
madhu_ak | I think yes, its uses psk | 16:25 |
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pc_m | ? | 16:26 |
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madhu_ak | its uses psk, and ikev2 | 16:26 |
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madhu_ak | I can still confirm and comment on the bug | 16:26 |
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pc_m | There is differences between using IKE policy with v1 vs v2 | 16:27 |
pc_m | s/is/are | 16:27 |
pc_m | My understanding is that IKE policy v2 has DPD built in | 16:27 |
pc_m | So, do you think the issues are problems with the underlying *Swan packages or with the reporting of status by the OpenStack drivers? | 16:28 |
pc_m | IOW, does the traffic actually start/stop on time, and the status is just wrong. | 16:28 |
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madhu_ak | *Swan packages...the traffic actually doesn't stop with start/stop on time | 16:29 |
pc_m | If it's a *Swan issue, there's not much we can do, unless they have some workarounds that we can deploy. | 16:29 |
madhu_ak | maybe if anyone can reproduce and comment on that bug would be helpful | 16:30 |
pc_m | anyone able to confirm? | 16:30 |
madhu_ak | so we can get to know the clear info - meaning, having different views should be good | 16:30 |
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pc_m | Can anyone try this? | 16:31 |
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madhu_ak | I can retry again and post comment accordingy | 16:33 |
pc_m | Well, hopefully someone can get some time to try it. I may be able later this week or next week. Pretty tied up right now. | 16:33 |
beagles | any value to trying with libreswan? | 16:33 |
pc_m | #action People to try to confirm 1491679 bug | 16:33 |
Aish | I shall try this today or tomo and let u know.. madhu_ak | 16:33 |
pc_m | Any other bugs to discuss, before open discussion? | 16:33 |
madhu_ak | havent tried with that driver beagles | 16:33 |
beagles | (sorry, my network has been hiccuping) | 16:34 |
pc_m | Aish: Thanks! | 16:34 |
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madhu_ak | sure | 16:34 |
beagles | I ran into an issue with libreswan where its use of the capabilities library prevents it from establishing connections because ipsec.secrets isn't owned by root | 16:34 |
Aish | np pc_m | 16:34 |
beagles | fun! | 16:34 |
pc_m | beagles: Can't hurt, I guess it is similar to openswan. | 16:34 |
beagles | yeah | 16:35 |
pc_m | #topic Open Discussion | 16:35 |
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pc_m | beagles: You had an item... | 16:35 |
beagles | yeah, kind of jumped the gun... see above | 16:35 |
beagles | that led me to do some research and discovered that most of the references (manpages, etc) indicate the file should be owned by root/super-suer | 16:36 |
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beagles | does this indicate a general problem or should a fix be localized to libreswan driver? | 16:37 |
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pc_m | beagles: I haven't seen that with open/strongswan | 16:38 |
beagles | pc_m yeah I figured that was likely the case. What are the implications of having not restricting it to root/super-user? | 16:39 |
beagles | I guess outside of devstack, it would be whatever UID the deployment runs the agent as - which is restricted itself in a way | 16:39 |
ajmiller | beagles There could possibly be some interaction here with the fix I just made for https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1488320 | 16:40 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1488320 in neutron "neutron-vpnaas uses bad file permissions on PSK file" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Al Miller (al-miller) | 16:40 |
pc_m | beagles: not sure. Usually the template is copied to the UUID of the process for the driver. | 16:40 |
pc_m | ajmiller: Is this the same file? | 16:40 |
ajmiller | yes | 16:40 |
ajmiller | I beleive so | 16:40 |
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pc_m | beagles: Do you have ajmiller's fix? ajmiller did you see connection issues? | 16:41 |
pc_m | #link https://review.openstack.org/216810 | 16:41 |
pc_m | ajmiller: More correctly, did you try end-to-end connection? | 16:42 |
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beagles | pc_m yes: I think I have that fix.. it is quite likely he is seeing something different. Basically I get a permission error when reading ipsec.secrets when starting to listen for connections | 16:43 |
beagles | pc_m : same file though | 16:43 |
ajmiller | pc_m, Yes, I did do a full set of manual tests. I will go back and double-check though. | 16:43 |
beagles | it is most likely libreswan specific because of that capabilities library thing - same root cause as the recent .ctl/.pid file cleanup patch | 16:44 |
pc_m | ajmiller: May be worth two setup two routers and ensure traffic passes (though scenario test should do that). | 16:44 |
beagles | (really bizarre actually... but what can you do) | 16:44 |
pc_m | Corrected #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/216812/ | 16:45 |
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beagles | ajmiller, I think in my case things worked *before* your patch because the perms would've been more permissive | 16:46 |
pc_m | beagles: wondering if it works w/o ajmiller's fix? | 16:46 |
beagles | pc_m: yeah.. was just thinking that. | 16:46 |
pc_m | beagles: yeah, that is what I'm wondering. | 16:46 |
pc_m | ajmiller: Is your fix for sswan? | 16:47 |
pc_m | only? | 16:47 |
beagles | pc_m, I suspect ajmiller's patch is more correct from a security standpoint however | 16:47 |
pc_m | looking at code, it appears to be both. | 16:47 |
ajmiller | beagles pc_m It started out for openswan only, then based on review feedback made it more broad, for the other drivers that used that code. | 16:47 |
ajmiller | i.e. drivers that called replace_file() | 16:47 |
pc_m | beagles: So you may want to confirm if the permissions change anything. | 16:47 |
beagles | pc_m: will do | 16:48 |
pc_m | beagles: Does sound like a libreswan only fix though. | 16:48 |
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beagles | pc_m: I'm cool with that | 16:48 |
pc_m | OK. Anything else to discuss? | 16:49 |
pc_m | Thanks for joining in everyone. | 16:50 |
pc_m | #endmeeting | 16:51 |
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beagles | cheers | 16:51 |
openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 8 16:51:07 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:51 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vpnaas/2015/vpnaas.2015-09-08-16.04.html | 16:51 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vpnaas/2015/vpnaas.2015-09-08-16.04.txt | 16:51 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vpnaas/2015/vpnaas.2015-09-08-16.04.log.html | 16:51 |
pc_m | bye | 16:51 |
ajmiller | beagles ping me in #openstack-neutron or private chat if you want to discuss that issue. | 16:51 |
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