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SrikanthPoolla | I am Srikanth from brocade offshore develop center | 07:17 |
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SrikanthPoolla | i am trying to implement edge vpn service plugin for brocade..i am assuming base_ipsec.py is the base class for that...can some one help me if i am correct | 07:19 |
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SrikanthPoolla | Hi I am Srikanth from Brocade offshore dev.. | 15:59 |
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pc_m | hi | 16:02 |
pc_m | anyone here for VPNaaS meeting? | 16:02 |
ajmiller | good morning Paul | 16:02 |
pc_m | ajmiller: hi | 16:02 |
SrikanthPoolla | Hi Paul.. | 16:02 |
pc_m | SrikanthPoolla: hi | 16:02 |
pc_m | will give a few mins for people to join. | 16:03 |
SrikanthPoolla | sure | 16:03 |
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pc_m | I guess we can start. Not too much today to cover. | 16:05 |
pc_m | #startmeeting vpnaas | 16:05 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 14 16:05:46 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is pc_m. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:05 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:05 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'vpnaas' | 16:05 |
pc_m | #topic Announcements | 16:05 |
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pc_m | FYI: Plan is to disable services for Neutron Grenade jobs. | 16:06 |
pc_m | Will need to, in the future, create a VPNaaS Grenade job to test updates. | 16:06 |
pc_m | I pushed up a DevStack plugin for VPN and corresponding commit to remove VPN setup from DevStack repo. Hoping to get those approved soon. | 16:07 |
pc_m | Upstreamed tox.ini changes so that we can, in the future, run VPN functional tests against Neutron change sets (hopefully reducing some breakage). | 16:08 |
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pc_m | There is also some discussion by Sridhar R, about doing a "State of VPN" talk at summit. He doesn't appear to be on right now. | 16:09 |
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pc_m | Any other announcements? | 16:09 |
mhanif | Hi pc_m: | 16:09 |
pc_m | mhanif: hi | 16:09 |
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mhanif | I would like to announce the availability of new specs for edge VPN | 16:09 |
pc_m | mhanif: cool. Link? | 16:10 |
mhanif | This is in line with what we are discussion of splitting the spec to address the provisioning part and the API to attach the Neutron network to the edge VPN | 16:10 |
mhanif | APIs to provision edge VPN service is at: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201378/ | 16:10 |
mhanif | Neutron extesion for edge VPN is at: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201381/ | 16:11 |
pc_m | mhanif: Thanks. Encourage people to look at the specs. | 16:11 |
mhanif | I have updated the VPNaaS wiki to reflect this | 16:11 |
pc_m | mhanif: ty | 16:11 |
pc_m | Any other announcements? | 16:11 |
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pc_m | #topic Local Tunnel IP | 16:12 |
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pc_m | I pushed this up for review, please check it out #linkhttps://review.openstack.org/199670 | 16:12 |
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pc_m | There are a few issues. One is that there changes happening in Neutron for migration, so we'll need to wait and adapt this a bit for those changes. | 16:13 |
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pc_m | The other is that we need to get a VPN based Grenade job running to better test this commit. | 16:14 |
pc_m | :( | 16:14 |
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pc_m | Or go w/o upgrade testing that is automated for now. I have manually tested it. | 16:14 |
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pc_m | Please look at the review and comment, though. | 16:15 |
pc_m | #topic VPN with HA Router | 16:15 |
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pc_m | There is a review up #link https://review.openstack.org/200636. Please look at it and give feedback. There are some concerns on how this will work out, when there is an active/standby router. | 16:16 |
pc_m | Also some concern with how it fits in with the local tunnel IP change. | 16:16 |
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sridhar_ram | pc_m: neutron HA is based on VRRP ? | 16:16 |
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pc_m | hi sridhar_ram: Not sure. | 16:16 |
pc_m | sridhar_ram: They want to be able to use VPN with L3 HA router. | 16:17 |
pc_m | sridhar_ram: And handle switching between active and standby. | 16:17 |
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pc_m | I wonder if the HA routers share the same GW IP addresses, which are used for the tunnels (implicitely). | 16:18 |
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pc_m | implicitly | 16:18 |
pc_m | In any case, please review and provide feedback. We need to make sure we get this one right. | 16:18 |
sridhar_ram | I remember it will use a VIP .. so that would be the tunnel ip | 16:18 |
pc_m | #topic Multiple Local subnets | 16:19 |
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pc_m | I'm still waiting for Drivers cores to review the developer reference commit that is out for review. #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191944 | 16:19 |
pc_m | Please look over the updated commit and voice any questions/concerns with the proposals and which proposal is best (I'm rooting for C :) | 16:20 |
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pc_m | Need to get going on this to make Liberty release... :( | 16:20 |
pc_m | #topic Bugs | 16:21 |
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pc_m | Please look over the bugs and VPN reviews and help out. We desperately need reviewers, as the +1s will help cores in determining if domain experts (us) are happy with the changes. | 16:21 |
pc_m | Any particular reviews/bugs to discuss (besides the ones I posted above)? | 16:22 |
sridhar_ram | pc_m: nothing particular..but question on neutron HA | 16:23 |
pc_m | sridhar_ram: sure shoot | 16:23 |
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sridhar_ram | at some point there were different neutron HA schemes floating around.. | 16:23 |
pc_m | Ref: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1471940 | 16:23 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1471940 in neutron "VPNaaS Ipsec does not correctly determine master L3 HA Router" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to venkata anil (anil-venkata) | 16:23 |
sridhar_ram | it will be good to understand for which HA scenario vpnaas is planned to be supported | 16:24 |
sridhar_ram | okay.. will look at the bug! | 16:24 |
pc_m | sridhar_ram: :) | 16:24 |
pc_m | I guess they have active/standby router and switch over, and get a failure with namespace. | 16:25 |
sridhar_ram | ofcourse .. the solution would be quite different for reference vpn vs the virtual appliance based ones | 16:26 |
sridhar_ram | I guess .. then we need to loop at strongswan cookbook for vrrp and then translate back that to here | 16:26 |
pc_m | I really don't know much about how the HA router stuff works. I think Assaf does, so there is likely some discussion needed on this bug. | 16:27 |
sridhar_ram | *look | 16:27 |
sridhar_ram | exactly | 16:27 |
pc_m | Feel free to add to the bug comments and jump in on hte review. | 16:27 |
sridhar_ram | IMO it is not trivial bug :-) | 16:27 |
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pc_m | sridhar_ram: Yeah, I'm thinking that too. | 16:28 |
sridhar_ram | sure, will try.. juggling few other things my side these days. will try my best get back to reviewing | 16:28 |
sridhar_ram | hopefully soon! | 16:28 |
pc_m | sridhar_ram: Thanks! | 16:28 |
pc_m | #topic BGP VPN and Edge VPN | 16:28 |
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pc_m | Is there anything to discuss here, beyond reviewing the specs mhanif noted? | 16:29 |
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pc_m | mhanif: anyting? | 16:29 |
pc_m | anything | 16:29 |
mhanif | Yes | 16:29 |
pc_m | all yours... | 16:29 |
SrikanthPoolla | i have a question on Edge VPN | 16:29 |
mhanif | As you know that we have a implementation of the edge spec in the stackforge | 16:30 |
mhanif | However, it was based on the Icehouse release | 16:30 |
mhanif | We are updating it to the Liberty release and will announce it very soon | 16:30 |
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mhanif | The dir structure will also be updated to match the Liberty dir structure | 16:31 |
mhanif | Vendor specific drivers then can be added there as well | 16:31 |
Vikram | mhanif: this is great! | 16:31 |
pc_m | mhanif: thanks for the info. | 16:31 |
pc_m | SrikanthPoolla: You had a question... | 16:31 |
SrikanthPoolla | i am trying to implement service plugin for edge vpn...is that the base_ipsec.py base driver class? | 16:32 |
mhanif | Again would like to encourage folks to please review the spec and post your comments | 16:32 |
pc_m | SrikanthPoolla: base_ipsec.py is for IPSec site-to-site connection VPN. | 16:32 |
mhanif | SrikanthPoolla: Have you looked at the code? | 16:32 |
mhanif | in the stackforge | 16:32 |
SrikanthPoolla | i was trying to get MPLSVpnDriver class which i didnt'd find | 16:33 |
SrikanthPoolla | mhanif:i had looked into the code in stackforge | 16:33 |
pc_m | SrikanthPoolla: sorry. Are you talking about base_ipsec.py in stackforge or in the neutron-vpnaas repo? | 16:33 |
pc_m | SrikanthPoolla: Stuff in neutron-vpnaas is for IPSec VPN. | 16:34 |
SrikanthPoolla | i was in trying to figure out a base class of edge vpn | 16:34 |
mhanif | Much of the implementation is done by angela_allen from my team. Not sure she is online right now | 16:34 |
SrikanthPoolla | i was talking about base_ipsec.py in neutron-vpnass repo | 16:35 |
pc_m | SrikanthPoolla: yeah, that is IPSec site-to-site connection VPN stuff. | 16:35 |
mhanif | SrikanthPoolla: I can find out more about this and will get back to you | 16:35 |
pc_m | mhanif: Can you provide a pointer to the stackforge repo for SrikanthPoolla? | 16:35 |
pc_m | mhanif: That's even better. | 16:36 |
mhanif | pc_m: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/stackforge/networking-edge-vpn/ | 16:36 |
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pc_m | #action mhanif to provide info on base class for edge bpn to SrikanthPoolla | 16:36 |
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mhanif | The link to the stackforge is at: #link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/stackforge/networking-edge-vpn/ | 16:37 |
SrikanthPoolla | thanks much paul and hanif | 16:37 |
mhanif | I see angela-s: online | 16:37 |
angela-s | yes, i finally made it | 16:37 |
mhanif | angela-s: Question for info on base class for edge vpn? | 16:38 |
mhanif | angela-s: Do you want to chime in? | 16:38 |
angela-s | SrikanthPoolla: is this in reference to the issue we've already been discussing? | 16:39 |
SrikanthPoolla | yep Angela.. | 16:39 |
angela-s | so, the issue here is that I modeled the Edge VPN code based off of the VPN code | 16:40 |
angela-s | there is a reference to a VpnDriver class, that doesn't exist in the code base | 16:40 |
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angela-s | apparantly this is causing some error, SrikanthPoolla can elaborate on the error | 16:42 |
SrikanthPoolla | angela:exactly | 16:43 |
SrikanthPoolla | there is a base class missing here which is MPLSVPNDriver and we are extending it to vendor specific implementation. since it was not there i ams seeing some import errors | 16:44 |
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angela-s | pc_m: maybe you can help us understand the VPN code, then that will help us with the Edge VPN code | 16:44 |
pc_m | should be in service_drivers/__init__.py | 16:44 |
angela-s | in this code: https://github.com/openstack/neutron-vpnaas/blob/master/neutron_vpnaas/services/vpn/service_drivers/base_ipsec.py#L68, there is reference to VpnDriver, but that class doesn't exist | 16:45 |
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pc_m | angela-s: I can. Let's take this off-line in openstack-neutron after this meeting (and after I eat quickly). | 16:45 |
angela-s | sure | 16:45 |
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pc_m | it should be in the __init__.py in that directory. | 16:46 |
pc_m | It's an ABC, and the __init__.py is not empty. | 16:46 |
pc_m | In any case, let's try to wrap up here. | 16:46 |
pc_m | Anything else on BGP/Edge VPN? | 16:47 |
mhanif | pc_m: I am good thanks | 16:47 |
pc_m | #topic Open Discussion | 16:47 |
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pc_m | Anyone have anything else to discuss? | 16:47 |
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sridhar_ram | waiting for Mathieu to respond for the M-talk submission | 16:47 |
sridhar_ram | is there anyway I can convince our beloved vpn core to co-submit ? ;-) | 16:48 |
pc_m | Please help reviewing some of the commits that are out (DevStack plugin, local tunnel IP, L3 HA + VPN, and multiple local subnet developer reference proposals). | 16:48 |
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pc_m | sridhar_ram: Yeah, I probably can. | 16:48 |
* pc_m assuming I get to go to the summit :) | 16:49 | |
sridhar_ram | pc_m: awesome! | 16:49 |
* sridhar_ram pc_m will be containerized and shipped to tokyo no matter what | 16:49 | |
pc_m | sridhar_ram: Need some input from BGP VPN folks and Edge as well. | 16:49 |
pc_m | :) | 16:49 |
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mhanif | pc_m: edge VPN team is already on board | 16:50 |
mhanif | :-) | 16:50 |
pc_m | mhanif: great! | 16:50 |
pc_m | Looks like we're done. Thanks for joining everyone. angela-s and SrikanthPoolla, ping me on Neutron IRC in about 15 mins. | 16:51 |
pc_m | #endmeeting | 16:51 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 14 16:51:12 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:51 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vpnaas/2015/vpnaas.2015-07-14-16.05.html | 16:51 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vpnaas/2015/vpnaas.2015-07-14-16.05.txt | 16:51 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vpnaas/2015/vpnaas.2015-07-14-16.05.log.html | 16:51 |
pc_m | bye! | 16:51 |
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thinrichs | Hi all. Time for the Congress meeting. | 17:00 |
thinrichs | #startmeeting CongressTeamMeeting | 17:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 14 17:00:50 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is thinrichs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'congressteammeeting' | 17:00 |
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thinrichs | I see we have some folks from Asia today—thanks for making the effort! | 17:01 |
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thinrichs | What time is it for all of you? | 17:02 |
RuiChen | hi thinrichs | 17:02 |
RuiChen | 1:00 AM | 17:02 |
masahito | 2 am | 17:02 |
alexsyip | Thanks for joining at such a late hour! | 17:02 |
RuiChen | but it's ok for me | 17:03 |
thinrichs | Since it's so late let's get to the stuff that matters to you two first, so you can drop off if you like. | 17:03 |
thinrichs | Last week we talked briefly about possibly moving the meeting time to 5-6p Pacific (which is in the middle of the day in Asia). | 17:03 |
thinrichs | alexsyip: does that (ever) work for you? I know it's later than you usually work. | 17:04 |
alexsyip | That is ok with me. | 17:04 |
thinrichs | RuiChen, masahito: if it were 1 hour earlier would that work, or is that too early? | 17:04 |
thinrichs | So 4-5p Pacific. | 17:05 |
masahito | thinrichs: It works for me. | 17:05 |
thinrichs | Which I think is 11p UTC-midnight UTC | 17:05 |
RuiChen | works for me too | 17:05 |
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thinrichs | alexsyip: any idea if 4-5p would work for pballand? | 17:06 |
alexsyip | No, I don’t know what his schedule is like. | 17:06 |
alexsyip | He works from home on some days, so it could be fine for him. | 17:06 |
alexsyip | I say go for it. | 17:07 |
thinrichs | Seems like a reasonable adjustment, to save some people from staying up late to join. | 17:07 |
thinrichs | pballand is out of town for a couple more weeks I think. | 17:07 |
thinrichs | So let's move it to 4-5p Pacific at least until he gets back. | 17:08 |
thinrichs | I'll make sure we can find a room that's free and send out email. | 17:08 |
thinrichs | Oops. forgot to start the topic. | 17:08 |
thinrichs | #topic Meeting time | 17:08 |
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thinrichs | #action thinrichs will find a room for meeting 4-5p Pacific on Tuesdays and will email out details to the ML. | 17:09 |
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RuiChen | thanks for adjusting the meeting time :) | 17:09 |
thinrichs | RuiChen: happy to. | 17:10 |
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thinrichs | The rest of what I have on the agenda is straightforward. | 17:10 |
masahito | thinrichs: thank you for changing the time ;) | 17:10 |
thinrichs | Status update on the mid-cycle sprint | 17:10 |
thinrichs | masahito: you're welcome. | 17:10 |
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thinrichs | 1. Status update on mid-cycle sprint | 17:10 |
thinrichs | 2. UI demo discussion | 17:11 |
thinrichs | 3. Milestones | 17:11 |
thinrichs | 4. Python 3 | 17:11 |
thinrichs | 5. Talks for summit | 17:11 |
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thinrichs | Anything else? | 17:11 |
thinrichs | 6. status updates (if there's time) | 17:11 |
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RuiChen | i have a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/congress/+bug/1473924 | 17:11 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1473924 in congress "datasource-row-list API raise 400 exception when thread switching occur in update_from_datasource()" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Rui Chen (kiwik-chenrui) | 17:11 |
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RuiChen | and i want to refactro datasource driver | 17:12 |
thinrichs | That's a good bug that has shown up several times. | 17:12 |
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thinrichs | We definitely want to make sure datasource drivers update self.state atomically. | 17:12 |
thinrichs | Some refactoring might help with that. | 17:12 |
RuiChen | and abstract common logic like updating self.state to super class. | 17:13 |
thinrichs | RuiChen: sounds reasonable. Maybe have update_state *return* the new dict and have the base class overload it. | 17:13 |
RuiChen | yeah, i need to draft a spec or bp? | 17:13 |
alexsyip | You can overwrite the existing content of self.state. | 17:14 |
alexsyip | They only drawback is that you’ll be holding two copies of all the state while you’re building the new copy. | 17:14 |
alexsyip | I’m not sure that’s avoidable though. | 17:14 |
thinrichs | RuiChen: don't worry about a BP/spec for this. | 17:14 |
thinrichs | RuiChen: I'd do the refactoring and implement 1 datasource driver and push to review. | 17:14 |
thinrichs | Then we can all give you comments before you touch all the 15 datasources. | 17:15 |
thinrichs | alexsyip: good points there. | 17:15 |
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RuiChen | yeah, good suggestion, thanks | 17:15 |
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thinrichs | RuiChen: one other thought.. | 17:16 |
thinrichs | If we're pulling a ton of data, | 17:16 |
thinrichs | and we knew that only some of it changed, | 17:17 |
thinrichs | it might be useful to only retranslate the portion that changed. | 17:17 |
thinrichs | I don't think this is an issue right now. | 17:17 |
thinrichs | But keep that in the back of your mind. | 17:18 |
thinrichs | I don't think there's a datasource driver that would do that right now. | 17:18 |
thinrichs | Anything else to add to the agenda? | 17:18 |
RuiChen | maybe we should add congess spec to specs.openstack.org? | 17:19 |
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thinrichs | RuiChen: I don't know how to do that off the top of my head. | 17:20 |
thinrichs | And I don't have the cycles to look into it. | 17:20 |
thinrichs | We also aren't big enough to rely on the spec process the way other projects do. | 17:21 |
thinrichs | But if you want to look into it that'd be great. | 17:21 |
RuiChen | ok, i can try | 17:22 |
thinrichs | RuiChen: I'd say don't spend too long. Do a little googling; look at project-config; if nothing turns up, let me know. | 17:22 |
thinrichs | Let's move on to the mid-cycle sprint update. | 17:23 |
thinrichs | #topic mid-cycle sprint | 17:23 |
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RuiChen | thinrichs, get it | 17:23 |
thinrichs | Here's the wiki with info | 17:23 |
thinrichs | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints#Liberty_sprints | 17:23 |
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thinrichs | alexsyip: any progress on getting a room? | 17:23 |
alexsyip | Yup, we got a room at vmware. | 17:23 |
alexsyip | I will also get food when we have a better headcount. | 17:24 |
thinrichs | alexsyip: Want to add the room details to the wiki? | 17:24 |
thinrichs | alexsyip: Maybe also some instructions about where to park and where to sign in. | 17:24 |
thinrichs | I suppose we should be those details on the eventbrite page as well. Or maybe just the eventbrite page so there's only one place. | 17:25 |
thinrichs | Anything else we should discuss about the sprint? | 17:26 |
alexsyip | I don’t think I can edit eventbrite. | 17:27 |
alexsyip | The room is “BASH" | 17:27 |
alexsyip | in hilltop - A | 17:27 |
thinrichs | #action thinrichs will add room details for the midcycle summit to eventbrite | 17:27 |
thinrichs | I'll take care of eventbrite | 17:28 |
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thinrichs | Next topic: milestones | 17:29 |
thinrichs | #topic Milestones | 17:29 |
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thinrichs | We still want to have people sign up for blueprints and choose the milestone by which they can get those blueprints implemented. | 17:29 |
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thinrichs | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/congress | 17:30 |
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thinrichs | masahito signed up for 2 and chose a milestone. Thanks! | 17:30 |
masahito | Oh. I forgot sending you a milestone though. | 17:31 |
thinrichs | alexsyip: any thought about the milestone for basic-ha? | 17:31 |
veena | thinrichs: can anybody sign for any of those blueprints? | 17:31 |
thinrichs | veena: yep | 17:31 |
veena | thinrichs: okay | 17:31 |
thinrichs | veena: I may have a good task for you, that would help us out a bunch and would be a number of small commits. | 17:32 |
thinrichs | veena: Python3 support | 17:32 |
thinrichs | I'll come back to that in a minute. | 17:32 |
thinrichs | masahito: I have you down for 1 milestone and figured you were waiting to get that done until choosing the next milestone. | 17:32 |
veena | thinrichs: Sure | 17:32 |
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alexsyip | I estimate there’s about 2 weeks of work for basic HA. | 17:33 |
alexsyip | Having tempest tests running would make things better. | 17:33 |
thinrichs | alexsyip: I'm finally making progress on the tempest tests | 17:34 |
alexsyip | oh good. | 17:34 |
alexsyip | I reinstalled devstack yesterday and had some test failures. | 17:34 |
alexsyip | in test_neutronv2 | 17:34 |
thinrichs | I've spent a *bunch* of time digging through tempest. | 17:35 |
thinrichs | alexsyip: shall I put liberty-2 down for the basic-ha then? | 17:35 |
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alexsyip | yeah ok | 17:36 |
thinrichs | Done | 17:36 |
thinrichs | alexsyip: I know someone (masahito maybe) fixed a bunch of tempest failures. | 17:36 |
thinrichs | Maybe there are just some new ones. | 17:37 |
thinrichs | You were talking about neutronv2 tempest tests, right? | 17:37 |
thinrichs | Not the unit tests. | 17:37 |
alexsyip | yes | 17:37 |
masahito | I'm not familier with tempest test. | 17:37 |
thinrichs | masahito: sorry—must have been someone else. | 17:38 |
thinrichs | I'll keep plugging away trying to get tempest tests working in a virtualenv then. | 17:38 |
thinrichs | We really do want those tests gating our changes. | 17:38 |
thinrichs | Time to move on. | 17:38 |
thinrichs | #topic Python3 | 17:38 |
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thinrichs | All of OpenStack is moving off of Python2, since Python2 is at end-of-life. | 17:39 |
thinrichs | The Python community has said they're not supporting it any longer. | 17:39 |
thinrichs | In fact we're behind on migrating over, compared to other projects. | 17:39 |
thinrichs | So if everyone can pitch in and try to get fixes in, that'd be good. | 17:39 |
veena | thinrichs: I can take that up | 17:40 |
thinrichs | Has anyone actually done this kind of porting before? | 17:40 |
thinrichs | I don't know the best way to go about it. | 17:40 |
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thinrichs | There could be a bunch of work, and there could be just a little work. | 17:40 |
thinrichs | veena: thanks. | 17:40 |
veena | thinrichs: there's a tool 2to3 which might be of some help | 17:40 |
veena | thinrichs: Thanks | 17:41 |
thinrichs | I don't know if we're going full to Python3, or trying to stay backwards compatible with 2. | 17:41 |
thinrichs | I imagine we want to stay backwards compatible, unless there's a good reason not to. | 17:41 |
thinrichs | Which would mean relying on the six package. | 17:41 |
veena | thinrichs: Okay | 17:41 |
thinrichs | We have a python34 job running in the Gate. | 17:42 |
thinrichs | http://logs.openstack.org/10/199910/3/check/gate-congress-python34/cedccfe/console.html | 17:42 |
thinrichs | I haven't looked into what it does. I imagine it's just running all the tests with python3 instead of python2. | 17:43 |
thinrichs | An OpenStack guide on moving from python2 to python3: | 17:44 |
thinrichs | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Python3 | 17:44 |
thinrichs | So let's all try to help with this over the next few weeks. | 17:45 |
RuiChen | I think backwards compatible is important, many openstack customers are not ready for python3 AFAIK, | 17:45 |
RuiChen | yeah, I can help to review these patch. | 17:45 |
thinrichs | Interestingly, that OS page says we're dropping Python3.3 support in LIberty. | 17:45 |
thinrichs | I'm inclined to believe we should be backwards compatible. | 17:46 |
thinrichs | So let's move forward supporting Python2 and Python3. | 17:47 |
thinrichs | Questions, issues? | 17:47 |
veena | thinrichs: Okay. No questions as of now. | 17:47 |
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thinrichs | veena: I think going through that wiki page is a good first cut at getting to Python3 compatibility. | 17:48 |
veena | thinrichs: Okay | 17:48 |
thinrichs | Next topic. | 17:48 |
thinrichs | #topic Summit talks | 17:48 |
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thinrichs | Just a reminder that the talks for the summit are due tomorrow. | 17:49 |
thinrichs | #link •https://www.openstack.org/summit/tokyo-2015/call-for-speakers/ | 17:49 |
thinrichs | I'm happy to give feedback or edit abstracts. Just let me know. | 17:49 |
RuiChen | we will plan congress hands-on-lab in tokyo? | 17:51 |
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thinrichs | RuiChen: yep | 17:51 |
thinrichs | alexsyip submitted a proposal | 17:52 |
RuiChen | great, I like it | 17:52 |
masahito | thinrichs: I've already submitted my abstract. Can you read it if I add you as a speaker? | 17:52 |
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thinrichs | masahito: I imagine I can read it if you add me. | 17:52 |
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thinrichs | RuiChen (and everyone else): let us know if you're interested in preparing/delivering the HOL. | 17:52 |
masahito | thinrichs: OK. I'll add you just after the meeting | 17:52 |
masahito | I can help the HOL as Japanese :) | 17:53 |
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thinrichs | masahito: :) | 17:53 |
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thinrichs | Just a few minutes left. | 17:54 |
thinrichs | Open discussio | 17:54 |
thinrichs | #topic open discussion | 17:54 |
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masahito | I want to add a new 'service' table in nova datasource. Do I need to write bp? | 17:55 |
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thinrichs | masahito: no blueprint for that. | 17:55 |
masahito | thinrichs: ok | 17:55 |
thinrichs | masahito: you can file a bug if you want | 17:55 |
thinrichs | masahito: but that's not required either | 17:55 |
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RuiChen | everybody can take a look this spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198279/ ? | 17:57 |
RuiChen | api version list | 17:57 |
thinrichs | Let's everyone take a look at that, especially if you know how other projects return API versions. | 17:58 |
thinrichs | We're out of time for today. | 17:59 |
thinrichs | Thanks everyone! | 17:59 |
RuiChen | thank you | 17:59 |
veena | Thanks | 17:59 |
masahito | thank you | 17:59 |
thinrichs | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
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briancurtin | #startmeeting python-openstacksdk | 19:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 14 19:00:33 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is briancurtin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
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briancurtin | if you're around for the SDK meeting, say hi. i'm guessing it's just terry and i. everett is on vacation for a while. | 19:01 |
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briancurtin | terrylhowe: you around? | 19:04 |
terrylhowe | o/ | 19:04 |
briancurtin | terrylhowe: what do we want to do with https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/python-openstacksdk-big-tent-proposal | 19:05 |
terrylhowe | no idea | 19:05 |
terrylhowe | the write up looks fine | 19:07 |
briancurtin | terrylhowe: once we have the PTL thing ironed out i can submit it (or you can if you want), and then i guess we just do whatever Q&A on the review for it. the thing i still don't want to do with the PTL spot is having some implicit rotation there - since it'll be a real election next time i dont think we can (or should) plan anything like that besides | 19:07 |
briancurtin | thinking about the current state | 19:08 |
briancurtin | someone we dont even know could come along for the next cycle and be the best candidate, so i think if anyone is interested right now we should just focus on right now | 19:08 |
briancurtin | so i'm interested in PTL today, and i know you're interested in PTL at some point -- are you interested today? | 19:11 |
terrylhowe | sure I’m interested. I’m also not interested in doing that for a long time though. | 19:13 |
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briancurtin | i don't know when the next election would be, but i think the only duration is to that next point. since it's per-cycle it cant be any more than six months, and we're in the middle of a cycle so it's probably only a few months anyway. i think? | 19:17 |
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terrylhowe | anything else we should be talking about? | 19:20 |
briancurtin | the last time my email shows something about a PTL election was in April, so i would think the next time it'll come up is October | 19:21 |
briancurtin | terrylhowe: probably just what we need to get done for 0.6 | 19:21 |
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briancurtin | terrylhowe: i pushed the object_store metadata stuff, which would be good to get in. which of your current changes do you want the focus on so we can get them in? | 19:21 |
terrylhowe | the account stuff looked pretty good, I just had a question on the base class | 19:22 |
terrylhowe | I haven’t had a change to give the object store stuff a try yet, but yeh, that’d be good to get in | 19:22 |
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briancurtin | terrylhowe: what's up with the base class? i actually have a question for myself on that...can it or should it pertain to Object as well? i guess i should look at that after this | 19:23 |
terrylhowe | This OCC stuff is the the only other thing I think would be extremely helpful for the OSC POC | 19:23 |
terrylhowe | the question on the base class was why pull in create methods when account doesn’t use them | 19:23 |
briancurtin | terrylhowe: calling create on it isn't even going to work since Account has allow_create=False, but it could raise NotImplementedError | 19:24 |
terrylhowe | base class doesn’t look at allow_create and why should it anyway | 19:25 |
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terrylhowe | all that could of been left in the container class | 19:26 |
briancurtin | well Account.create is going to call Account.create_by_id, which is going to see that Account.allow_create=False and it's going to raise that it can't be done...but i could just put that method back in container | 19:26 |
briancurtin | however, if i can actually use the same thing for Object, it will make sense to do that all in the base, so i'll take another look at it | 19:27 |
terrylhowe | if you use the same create, it would make sense to look at allow_create in the base class | 19:28 |
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briancurtin | ok, i see now - yep | 19:28 |
terrylhowe | sorry, looks like my comment is in draft. | 19:29 |
briancurtin | terrylhowe: on OCC, i have this one in draft but will just send here: To me, the #1 option for this is a factory function that returns a working Connection object -- that's a fairly common construct. Returning the args isn't the greatest, but I think the last of our options is a class that contains individual methods that have to be called to construct a | 19:29 |
briancurtin | class. | 19:29 |
briancurtin | taking in OCC and returning COnnection will keep any possible changes self-contained. we should solve any testing issues in the tests rather than building a class to make testing easier | 19:30 |
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briancurtin | if Connection grows to take 5 configurable parameters, both the params-returning-function is tricky, and the class-with-methods is another moving target. function-returning-Connection is the only one that easily survives those changes | 19:31 |
terrylhowe | that doesn’t solve my functional test config problem though unless I missed something there | 19:32 |
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briancurtin | terrylhowe: what is the functioanl test config problem? | 19:33 |
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briancurtin | (i probably know what you're talking about, that combination of words isn't registering...i'm kind of fried today) | 19:34 |
terrylhowe | the functional tests could really use some configuration and the nicest place to pull that would be occ | 19:34 |
terrylhowe | like a flavor and image to use testing a particular system | 19:35 |
terrylhowe | potentially a list of tests to skip if testing a particular system because you know they are going to fail | 19:35 |
terrylhowe | I think applications in general would want to access the configuration. | 19:36 |
terrylhowe | I do like the idea of just having a get_connection() though | 19:36 |
briancurtin | terrylhowe: that sounds like a specialization *beyond* this. creating a Connection from a config is something we should probably figure out first. reading a config and pulling testing information out of it seems like it'd be part 2 | 19:37 |
terrylhowe | right, but if I just have a function I can’t expand on it at all | 19:38 |
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briancurtin | if an application wants to access the configuration it can read the configuration file. the SDK creating its connection is something it should just do | 19:38 |
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briancurtin | i dont think we should try to get all possible information for other people out the config. we need only to know what it takes to create a Connection. if my app needs more i'll read the file | 19:39 |
terrylhowe | well, maybe the function should just take a cloud_config blob. that would solve the import issue as well | 19:40 |
briancurtin | terrylhowe: as in the caller should pass us what comes out of OCC? | 19:41 |
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terrylhowe | yeh, move the call to get_one_cloud out of there | 19:41 |
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terrylhowe | anyway, what else? | 19:43 |
briancurtin | hmm. that might work, but we'd have to have some safety checks up front so we know we can operate on that blob | 19:43 |
briancurtin | terrylhowe: besides this account/object_store stuff and OCC things, i dont have anything else immediately needed for a 0.6. anything you want to squeeze in? | 19:43 |
terrylhowe | lots of things would be nice, top priority would be that create attributes bug I just created I think | 19:44 |
briancurtin | the dynamic loading would be nice to get in, but shouldn't rush that. can do a 0.7 in a few weeks -- i think that stuff is something we should release immediately once it's ready | 19:44 |
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briancurtin | terrylhowe: yeah i saw that, that's a good one. not sure why that happened but im guessing it's just based on some of the initial resources we put in - a bunch of them do only return an ID | 19:44 |
terrylhowe | yeh, I just haven’t gotten back around to the dynamic loading, I have a big backlog | 19:44 |
briancurtin | but of course, a lot return more. probably just didn't build that around those ones | 19:45 |
terrylhowe | I noticed the create thing when I was working on teh osc poc. I should probably do one more pass there to see if anything else shows up | 19:46 |
briancurtin | terrylhowe: ok so i'll keep an eye on the OCC thing and try to clean up the Account/object_store stuff. i might not get to it this afternoon since i'm heading to some family stuff, but i'm back to normal tomorrow | 19:46 |
terrylhowe | sounds good | 19:47 |
briancurtin | terrylhowe: anything else to cover? i think we should be set to release as openstacksdk instead of python-openstacksdk, as far as i remember...i think we changed what we needed | 19:48 |
terrylhowe | yeh, openstacksdk | 19:49 |
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terrylhowe | release Weds or Thurs? | 19:49 |
briancurtin | terrylhowe: i would think Thurs unless we happen to get everything ironed out tomorrow. im only going to focus on those three things until we're out, so hopefully not too much longer than these next days | 19:50 |
terrylhowe | awesome | 19:51 |
briancurtin | #endmeeting | 19:52 |
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