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| pc_m | hi sridhar_ram | 16:01 |
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| sridhar_ram | pc_m: hi | 16:01 |
| vikram_ | hi | 16:02 |
| pc_m | vikram_: hi | 16:02 |
| ajmiller | hi | 16:02 |
| pcarver | hi | 16:02 |
| mhanif | Hi pc_m: sridhar_ram: vikarm_: | 16:02 |
| pc_m | hi ajmiller: pcarver: mhanif | 16:02 |
| vikram_ | hi mhanif | 16:02 |
| pc_m | Let's get this ball rolling... | 16:03 |
| pc_m | #startmeeting vpnaas | 16:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 30 16:03:06 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is pc_m. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: vpnaas)" | 16:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'vpnaas' | 16:03 |
| pc_m | The agenda is here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/VPNaaS#Agenda | 16:03 |
| pc_m | #topic announcements | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: vpnaas)" | 16:03 | |
| pc_m | Does anyone have any announcements? | 16:03 |
| pc_m | #topic scenario testing | 16:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "scenario testing (Meeting topic: vpnaas)" | 16:04 | |
| pc_m | So... it's key for us to get some scenario tests in place. | 16:04 |
| pc_m | Nikolay has some tests, but they are failing in StrongSwan job : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/159746/ | 16:05 |
| pc_m | Appears to be some issue with rootwrap daemon. Clients are trying to access the same socket to communicate with the daemon (should be unique sockets). | 16:05 |
| pc_m | Works with Openswan, which has a different way to use rootwrap. | 16:06 |
| pc_m | If anyone has ideas on this, please help out/ | 16:06 |
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| pc_m | I've asked gus: (Angus) to help during the Neutron mid-cycle. He's been looking, but is in Australia, so hard to connect. | 16:07 |
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| pc_m | #topic Multiple Local Subnets | 16:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Multiple Local Subnets (Meeting topic: vpnaas)" | 16:08 | |
| pc_m | I have an RFE out with 3 proposals. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191944 | 16:08 |
| pc_m | Please look it over and comment. I talked to markmcclain, who will look it over as well. | 16:08 |
| pc_m | I'm (biased) in favor of option C. | 16:09 |
| pc_m | Any questions on this? | 16:09 |
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| pc_m | #topic Bugs | 16:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: vpnaas)" | 16:10 | |
| pc_m | Please look at the reviews that are out, and the bugs mentioned (both in the Agenda wiki age above). | 16:11 |
| pc_m | Any bugs/reviews that people want to discuss at this point? | 16:11 |
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| pc_m | #topic BGP/MPLS and Edge VPN | 16:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "BGP/MPLS and Edge VPN (Meeting topic: vpnaas)" | 16:12 | |
| pc_m | Will open up discussion on this... | 16:13 |
| pc_m | Not sure where we left off. Any actions? | 16:13 |
| mhanif | As per earlier discussion I am splitting the current edge-VPN spec to two | 16:13 |
| mhanif | Will soon be pushing them for review | 16:13 |
| pc_m | mhanif: Cool. Can you add the reviews to the meeting wiki page, when they are ready? | 16:13 |
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| mhanif | pc_m: Sure. Will do. Thanks. | 16:14 |
| vikram_ | +1 | 16:14 |
| pc_m | mhanif: Thank you. | 16:14 |
| pc_m | Is there any more thought on trying to split out the BGP API to allow for a separation of the "what" and "how" parts? | 16:15 |
| pc_m | And, if so, will there be any alignment with the API I'm proposing in the mutliple local subnet RFE? | 16:15 |
| mhanif | pc_m: Haven't looked at multiple local subnet RFE. Will read about it and let you know | 16:17 |
| * pc_m any BGP team members on? | 16:17 | |
| mhanif | pc_m: Any word on the new version of VPNaaS API (v2.0)? | 16:17 |
| pc_m | mhanif: Thanks. | 16:17 |
| mhanif | pc_m: This was discussed in Vancouver | 16:18 |
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| pc_m | mhanif: Well, I need to talk to cores about this more. One, is that they are going to microversioning for Neutron, so we need to see if/when we should do that for VPN repo. | 16:18 |
| pc_m | Another is that there are several changes that would affect the API and we need to see how to handle them. Local multiple subnets for one, certificates for another, etc. | 16:19 |
| pc_m | DMVPN | 16:19 |
| mhanif | pc_m: Got it. OK. So for now it is on the back burner? | 16:19 |
| sridhar_ram | pc_m: agree, we need to plan and scope v2.0 effort | 16:20 |
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| pc_m | mhanif: Yeah, unless anyone wants to champion it :) | 16:20 |
| pc_m | I'm busy with a bug/enhancement, local multiple subnets, and trying to help on the scenario failures. | 16:21 |
| pc_m | Oh that reminds me... one announcement. | 16:21 |
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| pc_m | As part of Neutorn lib work, dougwig is working on running *aaS tests as part of Neutron changesets. | 16:21 |
| pc_m | I'm helping and trying to modify the VPN tests so that they will work if there is a neutron change set. I'm also going to enable the functional tests, as part of Neutron Jenkins runs. | 16:22 |
| pc_m | Doug will be adding all the *aaS UTs as well. | 16:22 |
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| pc_m | Hopefully, this will catch some issues and prevent breakage in VPN. | 16:23 |
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| pc_m | Anyways, back to the API... we'll need to plan how we get to v3.0 and onward. Sounds like microversioning is the way to go. | 16:24 |
| pc_m | BTW: we are at v2.0 now. | 16:24 |
| * pc_m not sure how we went from 1.0 to 2.0 but at some point we did. | 16:24 | |
| pc_m | We'll need to try to hook up with the BGP folks about APIs. | 16:25 |
| sridhar_ram | pc_m: good to know that | 16:25 |
| mhanif | pc_m: Agreed | 16:25 |
| pc_m | Anything more on BGP to talk about? | 16:25 |
| pc_m | Anything more on Edge VPN? | 16:25 |
| mhanif | mhanif: Nothing more from me | 16:26 |
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| pc_m | #topic Open Discussion | 16:27 |
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| pc_m | OK, will give you 32 mins (and one leap second) back of your day... | 16:29 |
| sridhar_ram | :) | 16:29 |
| pc_m | #endmeeting | 16:29 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 30 16:29:13 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:29 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vpnaas/2015/vpnaas.2015-06-30-16.03.html | 16:29 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vpnaas/2015/vpnaas.2015-06-30-16.03.txt | 16:29 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vpnaas/2015/vpnaas.2015-06-30-16.03.log.html | 16:29 |
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| pc_m | thanks for joining! | 16:29 |
| mhanif | pc_m: Thanks. Have a good fourth! | 16:29 |
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| pc_m | mhanif: Yes you too! | 16:29 |
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| briancurtin | #startmeeting python-openstacksdk | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 30 19:00:28 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is briancurtin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: python-openstacksdk)" | 19:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'python_openstacksdk' | 19:00 |
| briancurtin | if you're here for the SDK meeting, say hi. i know etoews may be a few minutes late | 19:00 |
| terrylhowe | o/ | 19:01 |
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| briancurtin | etoews and i already chatted a bit about this first one so we can get into it and he'll catch up | 19:02 |
| briancurtin | #topic Proposal: moratorium on new services/resources being added until after 1.0 | 19:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Proposal: moratorium on new services/resources being added until after 1.0 (Meeting topic: python-openstacksdk)" | 19:02 | |
| briancurtin | In order to be able to release, we're going to need to put a halt to adding support for new operations while we catch up on functional tests, documentation, and the other larger initiatives we need to complete like plugins | 19:03 |
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| terrylhowe | sounds good | 19:04 |
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| briancurtin | I don't imagine this to be very controversial, but the operations we support today is just what we should stick with. Don't add any more, just make what we have right now work better (or at all) | 19:04 |
| etoews | ni | 19:04 |
| etoews | hi | 19:04 |
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| etoews | ++ | 19:04 |
| dhellmann | o/ | 19:04 |
| stevelle | o/ | 19:04 |
| terrylhowe | what about what is in the pipe | 19:04 |
| terrylhowe | like quiming’s node | 19:05 |
| briancurtin | terrylhowe: anything that is in there right now i'm fine with allowing it to go in | 19:05 |
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| briancurtin | anything entered after this i think we should -2 and hold off | 19:05 |
| terrylhowe | k | 19:05 |
| etoews | briancurtin: when you say resources above, do you mean not adding any new resources to existing services? | 19:06 |
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| briancurtin | no new services to be added, no new resources to existing services | 19:06 |
| briancurtin | somewhat of an API freeze -- if we need to change how things behave that's fine, but don't grow to support any new APIs | 19:07 |
| etoews | so some of the services we ship for 1.0 would be incomplete | 19:07 |
| briancurtin | probably | 19:07 |
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| briancurtin | if we get things in order i'm sure we could open it up, or if there are things out there right now that absolutely need other things to operate, we could make some exceptions as needed | 19:08 |
| etoews | i'm okay with that | 19:08 |
| briancurtin | i'd just rather our support not grow open ended at this point | 19:08 |
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| etoews | the exceptions being stuff like "oh, this service is completely useless without resource x" | 19:09 |
| briancurtin | yep | 19:09 |
| etoews | okay. functional tests, user guides, and examples will help inform the extent of uselessness. | 19:09 |
| briancurtin | bingo | 19:10 |
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| briancurtin | anyone opposed to the general sentiment here? | 19:10 |
| dhellmann | makes sense to me | 19:10 |
| terrylhowe | #agreed | 19:11 |
| briancurtin | #topic second meeting | 19:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "second meeting (Meeting topic: python-openstacksdk)" | 19:11 | |
| briancurtin | Qiming and the rest of the Senlin team is interested in coming to our meetings, but they're between 11-13 hours difference. I caught their Senlin team meeting from 0800-0900 US/Central time this morning | 19:11 |
| briancurtin | As the project grows, we're going to need to reach more people anyway, so we're going to have to have two meetings at some point - not everyone can or has to make both meetings, but we'll just need to make sure everyone is aware of what's going on, and that decisions are appropriately handled inside and outside of meetings due to the increasingly distributed | 19:12 |
| briancurtin | nature of the contributors | 19:12 |
| etoews | let's play timezone roulette | 19:12 |
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| terrylhowe | early and late meetings might work like the api-wg | 19:13 |
| briancurtin | i haven't looked at the schedule yet, but my first thought is to add a semi-weekly meeting that works for Qiming, and then maybe we cut this meeting back to semi-weekly so it's an alternating time slot. could always keep this weekly, or even that weekly as well...i'm not really sure how that works around here | 19:13 |
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| etoews | the alternating meetings have not worked well at all for the api-wg | 19:14 |
| etoews | the meeting that works well for asia is not well attended. | 19:14 |
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| briancurtin | etoews: should we just always have both, as in once a week there's a morning meeting and once there's an afternoon, and sometimes you just attend what you can attend? | 19:15 |
| etoews | something like that would be preferable | 19:15 |
| briancurtin | i guess we'd also have to be careful not to have hard decisions made at one meeting that leaves out the other group, or start using mailing list for some things | 19:16 |
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| dhellmann | briancurtin: yeah, it's probably best not to make decisions in the meeting if we're going to try to deal with timezones | 19:16 |
| dhellmann | summarize issues and take them to the mailing list or spec reviews | 19:17 |
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| etoews | dhellmann: do you know where the meeting file lives? | 19:18 |
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| briancurtin | it's in a repo somewhere now | 19:18 |
| etoews | ya. i just don't know where. | 19:18 |
| dhellmann | etoews: git://git.openstack.org/openstack-infra/irc-meetings | 19:18 |
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| dhellmann | there are some basic instructions on http://eavesdrop.openstack.org | 19:19 |
| dhellmann | but the readme in the repo has more details: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/irc-meetings/tree/README.rst | 19:19 |
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| etoews | thx | 19:19 |
| briancurtin | thanks dhellmann | 19:19 |
| briancurtin | #action briancurtin will take a look at the schedule and try to find something that works for current team plus those on the other side of the world | 19:20 |
| briancurtin | #topic find | 19:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "find (Meeting topic: python-openstacksdk)" | 19:20 | |
| briancurtin | i think this was etoews: "There are a lot of open bugs regarding find. Let's see if we can nail down a path forward for find." | 19:21 |
| etoews | yep. this seems like the last hold out of stabilizing the internal api. | 19:21 |
| etoews | i don't have a strong opinion on it. just want to see it get sorted. | 19:22 |
| briancurtin | after a change terrylhowe made, as well as the one i just put in to check the find results, it's probably just up to functional testing to find out what really works and doesn't | 19:22 |
| etoews | nice | 19:22 |
| terrylhowe | yeh | 19:22 |
| briancurtin | im guessing once those two things are in, it's really down to resources that may not be using path_args stuff correctly | 19:22 |
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| briancurtin | beyond just writing tests, i don't think there's anything really left to figure out since i backed away from the fancy stuff i wanted to add (or it really applies more to list anyway) | 19:25 |
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| briancurtin | #topic create images | 19:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "create images (Meeting topic: python-openstacksdk)" | 19:25 | |
| briancurtin | etoews | 19:25 |
| etoews | the glance api... | 19:26 |
| etoews | so when you create an image you send the name in the request header because the image bytes go in the body | 19:27 |
| etoews | meta_name = resource.header('x-image-meta-name') | 19:27 |
| etoews | but the response has all of the info in the json body of the response | 19:27 |
| etoews | name = resource.prop('name') | 19:27 |
| etoews | you wind up with 2 fields that are the same thing. | 19:28 |
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| etoews | i just did that to hack something together that works | 19:28 |
| etoews | obviously we don't want that | 19:28 |
| etoews | i haven't even had a chance to consider solutions yet | 19:29 |
| briancurtin | and the alias thing won't work here because one is a body prop and one is a header key | 19:29 |
| terrylhowe | Just override create_* of some sort for Image seems like the easiest thing | 19:29 |
| terrylhowe | I don’t think there is anything here that would be used anywhere other than v1 and v2 | 19:29 |
| briancurtin | yeah, something like that | 19:29 |
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| etoews | so create_image(self, **attrs) in _proxy stays as it is. | 19:31 |
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| etoews | then that _proxy method calls a create_* method on Image? | 19:32 |
| briancurtin | yeah, it'll probably have to work similarly to how you've done things in the message service | 19:32 |
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| briancurtin | doesn't get the common self._create stuff out of the base class, has to go direct to what you've overridden. i think | 19:33 |
| briancurtin | well, unless everything in the create_ is hooked up properly, you might be able to go through self._create in the proxy call | 19:33 |
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| etoews | i don't think you can go through self._create in the proxy call | 19:34 |
| etoews | then the user had to know to set meta_name or name prior to calling the proxy | 19:35 |
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| etoews | right now i'm thinking take everything as a regular resource prop and translate it to headers depending on the context of the call | 19:36 |
| terrylhowe | I was thinking the new create method would map name->X-image-name or whatever it is called | 19:36 |
| etoews | yep. i think we're on the same page. | 19:36 |
| etoews | but there *wouldn't* be a x-image-name field on the resource | 19:37 |
| etoews | just name | 19:37 |
| etoews | i'm good on this. we can move on. | 19:38 |
| terrylhowe | sounds good to me | 19:39 |
| etoews | /bump briancurtin | 19:40 |
| briancurtin | #topic reauth on token timeout | 19:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "reauth on token timeout (Meeting topic: python-openstacksdk)" | 19:40 | |
| etoews | :) | 19:40 |
| terrylhowe | did it work? | 19:40 |
| etoews | 1 sec. | 19:40 |
| etoews | yes and no | 19:41 |
| etoews | i ran 4 "long" tests | 19:41 |
| etoews | tokens expire in an hour for devstack so i hit the api with the sdk slept 2-3 hours then hit it again. | 19:42 |
| etoews | it would reauth but in 2 of the 4 tests i got this error | 19:43 |
| etoews | requests.exceptions.ConnectionError: ('Connection aborted.', error(54, 'Connection reset by peer')) | 19:43 |
| terrylhowe | server disconnected an idle connection maybe | 19:44 |
| etoews | there was also 1 weird result where it slept for 11.5 hours instead of 3 | 19:44 |
| terrylhowe | 54 though? | 19:44 |
| terrylhowe | that must be the errno for the socket | 19:45 |
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| etoews | something like that | 19:46 |
| etoews | it's definitely a googlable problem | 19:46 |
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| terrylhowe | think Transport should catch the 54 and retry one time? | 19:48 |
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| etoews | or a configurable amount of times. | 19:49 |
| etoews | but maybe something | 19:49 |
| etoews | i'll open a bug to track it. | 19:49 |
| terrylhowe | excellent | 19:49 |
| etoews | i'm pretty sure it's got nothing to do with token reauth and everything to do with the amount of time between requests. | 19:49 |
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| etoews | #action etoews log bug about connection reset | 19:51 |
| etoews | /bump briancurtin | 19:51 |
| briancurtin | #topic registering error handlers | 19:51 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "registering error handlers (Meeting topic: python-openstacksdk)" | 19:51 | |
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| etoews | this was just an idea | 19:52 |
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| etoews | the reauth topic reminded me of it | 19:52 |
| terrylhowe | like the 54 socket error? | 19:52 |
| terrylhowe | or at some other level? | 19:52 |
| etoews | or whatever | 19:52 |
| etoews | whatever error that is | 19:53 |
| etoews | we wrap that final call to requests with some code that will run an error handler registered by the user | 19:53 |
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| etoews | it's just a mechanism to allow users to handle weirdness in whatever envs they're running in | 19:54 |
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| terrylhowe | maybe just create a ticket and put it on the wishlist for after 1.0 | 19:55 |
| etoews | "for bizarre reason x they regularly get weird error y and they'd like the sdk to handle it some way at a low level" | 19:55 |
| etoews | yep. definitely post 1.0. | 19:55 |
| terrylhowe | part of me likes the idea, the other part thinks maybe the user should just do it themselves | 19:55 |
| etoews | i know what you mean but that can for the user to write a bunch of high level error handling instead of a little bit of low level error handling. | 19:56 |
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| etoews | #action etoews to add registering error handlers to post 1.0 wishlist | 19:58 |
| terrylhowe | yeh, it might save them writing wrapper or something which would be a pita | 19:58 |
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| etoews | /bump briancurtin | 20:01 |
| etoews | thanks all | 20:01 |
| etoews | i think brian might be having connection issues | 20:02 |
| terrylhowe | thanks etoews, back to the sdk room I guess | 20:02 |
| briancurtin | #endmeeting | 20:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 20:03 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 30 20:03:36 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:03 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/python_openstacksdk/2015/python_openstacksdk.2015-06-30-19.00.html | 20:03 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/python_openstacksdk/2015/python_openstacksdk.2015-06-30-19.00.txt | 20:03 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/python_openstacksdk/2015/python_openstacksdk.2015-06-30-19.00.log.html | 20:03 |
| briancurtin | sorry guys, was in and out | 20:03 |
| etoews | np | 20:03 |
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