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nikhil_k | Courtesy artifacts-meeting reminder: nikhil, ativelkov, mfedosin | 13:59 |
mfedosin | hi :) | 13:59 |
nikhil_k | hey! | 14:00 |
ativelkov | o/ | 14:00 |
mfedosin | Daria, are you here? | 14:00 |
nikhil_k | #startmeeting Glance Artifacts Sub-Team Meeting | 14:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Jun 22 14:00:59 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is nikhil_k. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Glance Artifacts Sub-Team Meeting)" | 14:01 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance_artifacts_sub_team_meeting' | 14:01 |
nikhil_k | #chair ativelkov | 14:01 |
openstack | Current chairs: ativelkov nikhil_k | 14:01 |
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ativelkov | hi :) | 14:01 |
kragniz | o/ | 14:01 |
nikhil_k | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-artifacts-sub-team-meeting-agenda | 14:01 |
kragniz | thought I'd drop by | 14:01 |
ativelkov | welcome :) | 14:01 |
dshakhray | o/ | 14:01 |
mfedosin | o/ | 14:02 |
nikhil_k | all are welcome :) | 14:02 |
nikhil_k | It's a short (30 min) meeting for now | 14:02 |
nikhil_k | So, let's get started. | 14:02 |
nikhil_k | #topic General Updates | 14:02 |
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ativelkov | So, this is a quick update on what we are currently doing. | 14:02 |
mfedosin | shifting to oslo.versionedobjects (in brief) | 14:03 |
nikhil_k | ativelkov: do you have any links? | 14:03 |
ativelkov | Based on the summit feedback (thanks to flaper87 for great idea) we've started to move artifact type definitions to oslo.versioned_objects | 14:03 |
nikhil_k | Like a spec, review or irc/ML conversation? | 14:03 |
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ativelkov | nikhil_k: not yet. Right now I am working with oslo.versioned_object to add some features which are mandatory for us | 14:04 |
flaper87 | ativelkov: w00000000000h0000000000 | 14:04 |
flaper87 | ativelkov: btw, have you seen my pings w.r.t artifacts? | 14:04 |
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mfedosin | ativelkov made a couple of commit there | 14:05 |
flaper87 | are there patches that need sanity checks from me? | 14:05 |
flaper87 | mfedosin: you too ^ | 14:05 |
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nikhil_k | ativelkov: cool, please give us those links (later/offline okay too). | 14:05 |
ativelkov | flaper87: nope, didn't see any pings from you. My IRC bouncer is buggy as it turns out | 14:05 |
ativelkov | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/193077/ | 14:05 |
flaper87 | ativelkov: aaah :( | 14:06 |
mfedosin | flaper87, yes, but I want ativelkov to review them first | 14:06 |
ativelkov | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194104/ | 14:06 |
mfedosin | links are in agenda | 14:06 |
flaper87 | mfedosin: ok, feel free to ping me on IRC when you guys are ready | 14:06 |
mfedosin | flaper87, sure, thank you | 14:06 |
ativelkov | So, whet oslo.versioned_object is currently missing the most are the constraints | 14:07 |
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ativelkov | They have type validation and coercing, but no way to limit the length of the string, min/max value of integer, amount of items in the list etc | 14:08 |
nikhil_k | ativelkov: would it make sense to put those there? | 14:08 |
nikhil_k | or are you trying to make them configurable? | 14:08 |
nikhil_k | cool, that coerce bit seems to be doing a bit extra | 14:08 |
ativelkov | Of course this may be done at Glance level (i.e. by inheriting from base classes of oslo), but I want to check if these things are generic enough for reusing them widely | 14:09 |
nikhil_k | extra == (validation ++) | 14:09 |
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nikhil_k | gotcha | 14:09 |
nikhil_k | yeah, some fields in glance are/may need to be generic enough | 14:10 |
ativelkov | And then there is a concept of "immutable field" (i.e. a field which is editable while the object is in "draft" state but becomes frozen once it is active) - but this is a naarow concept, we should keep it glance-only. I think | 14:10 |
nikhil_k | make sense | 14:11 |
nikhil_k | makes* | 14:11 |
ativelkov | So, my estimates are to have a working prototype of some oslo-based ArtifactType later this week | 14:11 |
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nikhil_k | that's great news | 14:11 |
ativelkov | we may add some extra capabilities later if they are required | 14:12 |
ativelkov | So, any other questions on this topic? | 14:12 |
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nikhil_k | ok. should we probably note down a few priorities for this cycle? | 14:12 |
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nikhil_k | So, that they get listed right up in the liberty review list? | 14:13 |
sigmavirus24 | That's awesome ativelkov | 14:13 |
nikhil_k | I guess, first one what I think is we need to move the API from EXPERIMENTAL to a supported state | 14:14 |
ativelkov | nikhil_k: my top priority is to improve API and reach agreement on it with API WG and all the interested parties | 14:14 |
mfedosin | api wg has many concerns about current state of artifacts api | 14:14 |
nikhil_k | yeah | 14:14 |
ativelkov | so do I :) | 14:14 |
mfedosin | +1 :) | 14:14 |
nikhil_k | should we discuss this around july 10? | 14:15 |
mfedosin | and it's really hard to implement cleint if we don't have stable api | 14:15 |
nikhil_k | with the API_WG or do we need to do that before? | 14:15 |
mfedosin | and it's really hard to implement client if we don't have stable api | 14:15 |
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ativelkov | nikhil_k: I'd prefer to have some preliminary draft of the document with open issues and possible ways of making them better | 14:16 |
nikhil_k | ativelkov: sure, I am just trying to get a sense of how long we need to wait | 14:16 |
ativelkov | We've started working on such a document already | 14:16 |
nikhil_k | ok | 14:16 |
ativelkov | Will try to share it this week | 14:16 |
nikhil_k | ativelkov: sure, let's give it a few iterations within the team | 14:17 |
ativelkov | mfedosin: EXPERIMENTAL API is intended to be frequently changed, so its client should be changing as well | 14:17 |
mfedosin | actually yes, but I don't want to change it too often | 14:18 |
ativelkov | But we need to have some (may be in the most simple form) before we settle all the open API questions, so we may try it somehow | 14:18 |
nikhil_k | people are saying that if projects use them, then we need to keep supporting it. So, I think we need to move away from experimental in liberty | 14:19 |
nikhil_k | let me know when you think would be the best time to collaborate on the doc. I may be out for some travel from june 27-july2 | 14:20 |
mfedosin | nikhil_k, hard, but possible | 14:20 |
nikhil_k | yeah | 14:20 |
nikhil_k | :) | 14:20 |
nikhil_k | ativelkov: one thing that is concerning atm is we need to mark one images api as supported and keep that in defcore for next decade or so | 14:20 |
ativelkov | nikhil_k: no objections from my side :) But are we going to support 3 majors of API at the same time? Otherwise it will depend on v1 deprecation | 14:20 |
nikhil_k | yeah | 14:20 |
nikhil_k | just coming to that ^ :) | 14:21 |
nikhil_k | basically the push from a few people is that we need to wrap v1, v2 on top of v3 | 14:21 |
nikhil_k | that's really chanllenging given so much to do already. but we don't have to do this in liberty | 14:21 |
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nikhil_k | I think v2 can be in def core | 14:22 |
nikhil_k | all of this is in flux | 14:22 |
mfedosin | what about domain in v2 btw? I have some thoughts how to improve it | 14:23 |
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ativelkov | mfedosin: that's more an implementation detail | 14:23 |
mfedosin | I'll put my ideas in related etherpad then | 14:24 |
ativelkov | we may drop domain at any moment when we are ready too. API changes are much less flexible, so that is much more important | 14:24 |
mfedosin | ativelkov, agree with you | 14:24 |
nikhil_k | can't find a link: but look for email to openstack-defcore with sub: "Image APIs in Glance and Nova" | 14:24 |
nikhil_k | we just have 5 mins remaining. | 14:25 |
nikhil_k | ativelkov: mfedosin : please go ahead with whatever most important thing(s) you wanna discuss now | 14:25 |
ativelkov | Yeah, the question is about the client | 14:26 |
ativelkov | do we want to use v2's approach with jsonschema and warlock on top of it? | 14:26 |
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nikhil_k | but we may need to if v2 would be on top of v3 (I think) and we may need to support flexible/configurable schema | 14:27 |
ativelkov | The other way is to make glance-client work with type-less dicts of values for type-specific properties / blobs/ relations, and let the project-specific plugins interprete them | 14:27 |
mfedosin | we were discussing it all morning and have no decision, but I don't like warlock and stuff and want to find a better way to implement dependencies in client | 14:28 |
nikhil_k | I think that makes sense as long as project plugins don't go haywire. are we discussion to keep them in glance or in project repos? | 14:29 |
ativelkov | nikhil_k: in project repos, I guess | 14:30 |
nikhil_k | cool | 14:30 |
ativelkov | Glance will have only Images support as an example | 14:30 |
mfedosin | ativelkov, dicts means a little bit more work for users, but give more flexibility and much less work for us :) | 14:30 |
nikhil_k | ativelkov: I am with you | 14:30 |
ativelkov | We are out of time) | 14:31 |
nikhil_k | yeah | 14:31 |
nikhil_k | :) | 14:31 |
ativelkov | Let's continue in #glance | 14:31 |
nikhil_k | ativelkov: please run the meeting next week. I am out of town/may not be online | 14:31 |
ativelkov | nikhil_k: got it | 14:31 |
nikhil_k | THanks all! | 14:31 |
mfedosin | thanks all :) | 14:31 |
nikhil_k | #endmeeting | 14:31 |
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j^2 | #startmeeting openstack-chef | 16:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Jun 22 16:00:17 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is j^2. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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j^2 | hey everyone! | 16:00 |
carlp | ohai | 16:00 |
sc` | o/ | 16:00 |
markvan | howdy | 16:00 |
j^2 | as per useal i’ll give everyone a couple minutes to join, then start pulling topics from the agenda | 16:01 |
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j^2 | #topic sc` and the fight that is c7 repo | 16:02 |
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j^2 | sc`: so tell us of your trials and tribulations | 16:03 |
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sc` | i've been able to get a mostly complete converge on c7 using the delorean midstream repos in https://review.openstack.org/189531 | 16:04 |
j^2 | nice | 16:04 |
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sc` | i have a yet to be proposed change for mariadb to fully work with the centos package | 16:05 |
jklare | o/ | 16:05 |
j^2 | markvan: would you like to discuss the details here for this patch? | 16:05 |
libsysguy | \o | 16:05 |
j^2 | jklare: kingkong in the house! | 16:05 |
j^2 | :P | 16:05 |
j^2 | sc`: nice makes sense | 16:05 |
jklare | j^2 markvan really pushed this one ;) | 16:06 |
markvan | sc`: for the delorean repo, is that a replacement for the repo we have defined in common, or it's just filling in the missing pieces? | 16:06 |
j^2 | i like the idea of this patch moving forward, if it opens up cent7 which i believe it does, that helps us move towards stable | 16:06 |
sc` | markvan: it fills in the missing pieces, ie. ironic | 16:06 |
sc` | the delorean repos complement the main repo defined in common | 16:07 |
markvan | sc`: ah, ok. But at some point we would want to disable the delorean as the main repo becomes complete/stable? Hence we should have a flag/attribute to control this | 16:07 |
sc` | they may go away Eventually(tm) so as to make things easier from an operator point of view | 16:07 |
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sc` | in which case the whole block could come back out of common | 16:08 |
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markvan | I think we should consider adding a flag/attribute to enable this, such that we can make use of it, but not force it's use for others | 16:09 |
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sc` | right. today it's needed just to deploy kilo the way we are deploying it using chef | 16:09 |
j^2 | we can’t leverage that for the integration testing though, stupid ubuntu base images | 16:09 |
j^2 | though i’m pretty sure there are other base images aren’t there? | 16:10 |
markvan | not sure what is available, I've heard that fedorea is used for some devstack stuff | 16:10 |
jklare | j^2 integration testing on c7? did i miss something? | 16:11 |
j^2 | it might be something worth looking into down the line | 16:11 |
jklare | j^2 or are you talking about manual testing here? | 16:11 |
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j^2 | jklare: integration testing to verify the c7 repo feature flag. no reason why we shouldnt be able to build something that leverages the centos7 base image that I’ve heard rumors of | 16:11 |
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j^2 | jklare: oh yeah we could totally do it by hand, i was just hoping to let the bots do the work for us | 16:12 |
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j^2 | and when we finally have a passing build without c7 we can look towards making stable/kilo | 16:12 |
j^2 | or at least that’s what my thought process was | 16:12 |
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sc` | i can wrap the remote_file block in an attribute so it can be toggled off. until ironic is stabilized, however, it's a necessary requirement with the way the roles are structured | 16:13 |
j^2 | sc`: cool, please update the review and we’ll continue the conversation there | 16:14 |
j^2 | #topic specs.openstack.org | 16:14 |
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j^2 | I’ve kinda glossed over this one a few times | 16:14 |
j^2 | i just wanted a quick poll: | 16:14 |
j^2 | do we want to use the specs.openstack.org or should we stick with our own system for the time being? | 16:14 |
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jklare | i think we should go for spec.openstack.org | 16:15 |
jklare | its nice | 16:15 |
jklare | and shiny | 16:15 |
j^2 | there’s a hand full of migration things we need to do but all in all shouldn’t be too painful | 16:15 |
markvan | switching to it sounds fine to me | 16:15 |
j^2 | puppet does use them: http://specs.openstack.org/stackforge/puppet-openstack-specs/ | 16:15 |
sc` | i'm +1 on specs.openstack.org | 16:15 |
j^2 | unless there is any major objection from anyone? | 16:16 |
j^2 | i’ll take the action item to move us | 16:16 |
jklare | +2 | 16:17 |
markvan | I see they also allow "Trival" specs, which are just launchpad blueprints, so that's good | 16:17 |
j^2 | #topic How to handle cross procject CI testing | 16:18 |
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j^2 | markvan: i know you have some opinions there | 16:18 |
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markvan | yeah, one item is that until we really conquer this, I believe we need to have the CI test be a non-voting job. | 16:19 |
jklare | patch in infra for that is in and marked as WIP | 16:19 |
jklare | link is on the etherpad | 16:20 |
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markvan | I have only briefly looked ino hows the Depend-On works, but with our "special" berks vendor step, I think this will take more infra job work to allow cross patches to work. | 16:21 |
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markvan | I have started a fork of my test-patch script that has a goal of working from within infra jobs to handle this | 16:21 |
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j^2 | markvan: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html#cross-repository-dependencies | 16:22 |
jklare | i think if we want to test multiple patches in one, we need to change a lot in our testing procedure | 16:23 |
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j^2 | depends-on link ^^^ | 16:23 |
jklare | j^2 yeah, but the problem is that we need to combine this with berks somehow | 16:23 |
j^2 | yeah | 16:24 |
markvan | yeah, looks like depends-on just handles the sync/flow of the patches, such that they are done in correct order. What we need is something like my test-patch script to allow for berks-vendor to pull in what we need across projects | 16:24 |
j^2 | so untill we have a good answer for berks, we’re still at a impass | 16:24 |
j^2 | like was mentioned above | 16:24 |
sc` | would that even be possible to do manually a la git-review? | 16:24 |
j^2 | some crazy awk/sed/git-review magic sc` ? | 16:25 |
jklare | maybe it is possible to hand over related patch ids in the commit message and use them to pull and checkout the corresponding git repos (cookbooks) with berks | 16:25 |
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markvan | Right now I kinda have it working, buy my hold up is that the Depends-On info is not easly presented in the gate job env. So, I'm just grabbingthe info directly from the gerrit source and parsing that. | 16:26 |
jklare | basically git-review -d $PATCHID inside the berks vendor path | 16:26 |
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j^2 | yeah and the problem with the parsing stuff is that you can’t with the nodes | 16:26 |
markvan | yup that's what I'm doing....but had to get that patchID from the gerrit info | 16:27 |
j^2 | there is the “zuul cloner” that should be able to get most of that info for you markvan | 16:27 |
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markvan | yup, justy started to look into that, still not sure how to tell it what patch(s), but I'm digging | 16:27 |
j^2 | and I’ve already asked if there is a “read only” gerrit user, and they say no you have to use zuul cloner | 16:27 |
j^2 | :D | 16:28 |
markvan | ah, good no know | 16:28 |
j^2 | #topic CI testing and the awesomeness that is markvan | 16:28 |
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j^2 | soooo lets merge this? | 16:28 |
markvan | yeah, what I have now is basically working, and I think ready for something like that periodic task, non-voting, and maybe we could also run it for repo changes as voting, as a start. | 16:29 |
jklare | +2 | 16:30 |
markvan | I think for the icehouse/juno, we should just add in a "skip-if" and ignore those | 16:30 |
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j^2 | i think we should use juno too | 16:31 |
jklare | the periodic patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194164/ | 16:31 |
markvan | I would also like it to be available for all cookbooks, but still in a manaully mode, like the experimental gate | 16:31 |
j^2 | juno is “LTS” remember | 16:31 |
jklare | icehouse and juno should be skipped by the regex we introduced before | 16:32 |
markvan | yean, juno could be a "backport" once we get better at this | 16:32 |
jklare | ^^+1 | 16:32 |
j^2 | cool | 16:32 |
j^2 | that works | 16:32 |
j^2 | as long as we are moving this forward :) | 16:33 |
j^2 | #topic keystone under apache | 16:33 |
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jklare | is think the periodic infra patch is mergable as soon as we merge the rake integration test job in | 16:33 |
jklare | :( | 16:33 |
j^2 | heh | 16:33 |
jklare | well lets continue | 16:34 |
jklare | i can talk about this late ;) | 16:34 |
jklare | later | 16:34 |
j^2 | sounds good ,we can take this to our main channel | 16:34 |
j^2 | markvan: keystone? | 16:34 |
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markvan | Since the recommended way to run keystone now is under apache, I thought I would take a stab at getting that done. | 16:35 |
markvan | I belive in the M release the keystone service will be gone and just apache will be used. | 16:35 |
markvan | My thought for kilo was to just get the new recipe done and up, but NOT change the role to start using it until Liberty. | 16:36 |
j^2 | makes sense | 16:36 |
j^2 | scoping of this work? i havent looked at this at all | 16:36 |
markvan | I'm also leveraging the latest apache cookbook which has some good bugs fixes | 16:36 |
markvan | The idea was to use this as the default in Liberty, but I wanted to get some code out to get this going now | 16:37 |
j^2 | yeah there has been a lot of love on the apache cookbooks | 16:37 |
markvan | but there still using definitions @$^&! | 16:37 |
j^2 | booo | 16:37 |
markvan | So, there are 3 patches, please take a look: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open++branch:master+topic:bp/keystone-apache,n,z | 16:38 |
j^2 | will do | 16:39 |
j^2 | #topic OpenStack client, libsysguy yell at us. | 16:39 |
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libsysguy | GET OFF MY LAWN YOU KIDS | 16:39 |
j^2 | ha! | 16:39 |
libsysguy | okay, now that's out of the way | 16:39 |
libsysguy | I've been giving openstack-client some love over the weekend | 16:39 |
libsysguy | and it came to my attention that there is really not a great way for this cookbook to maintain idempotency | 16:40 |
libsysguy | and I wanted to know if this was a concern or if anyone else has given any thought to it | 16:40 |
libsysguy | or if it was an abandoned cookbook | 16:40 |
libsysguy | I've been out of the game for awhile | 16:40 |
* libsysguy had his coffee this morning | 16:41 | |
j^2 | :D | 16:41 |
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markvan | for basic create if not exist type work (used during the converge) I think that can get done fairly easily. | 16:42 |
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markvan | but for more complex, yup idempotency would be hard to achieve | 16:42 |
libsysguy | if not exist would have to rely on a uuid - which is only returned after a create - so you'd have to maintain a record of it outside of openstack | 16:43 |
libsysguy | which can be done - it's just no ideal | 16:43 |
jklare | i agree with mark here, depending on the special case, the use has to take care of the idempotency himself | 16:43 |
jklare | probably one can add some tools for that in the libraries | 16:43 |
jklare | that can also be utilized inside of the lwrps | 16:43 |
libsysguy | with a library like fog I don't think it's possible | 16:44 |
libsysguy | maybe if you used the api's directly | 16:44 |
libsysguy | anyway - I don't want to hog up too much meeting time | 16:44 |
libsysguy | but I just wanted to maybe get some wheels turning on it | 16:45 |
jklare | fog should be able to return a uuid, which a user can add into a attribute node['array_of_existing_stuff'] | 16:45 |
libsysguy | ah - yes. I have been running in solo mode so I don't really have node state available to me | 16:45 |
libsysguy | sorry guys - next meeting | 16:46 |
j^2 | #topic Open Discussion | 16:46 |
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j^2 | anything else? | 16:47 |
j^2 | or should we close and move to our channel? | 16:47 |
jklare | as i tried to add before ;) there are infra patches for our ci testing out there, that i put in as WIP | 16:47 |
markvan | yup, I think we should move on the periodic one, but maybe leave the experimental in place to continue cross cookbook work? | 16:48 |
jklare | they contain the things we discussed last meeting (and this one too) and if we want to merge them, just +1 them and i will remove the WIP | 16:48 |
sc` | from the project renames, should we purge older releases (g and h)? | 16:48 |
markvan | abandon these? https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+branch:stable/icehouse+topic:project-rename,n,z | 16:49 |
jklare | i think for the patch which moves the experimental to non-voting we should add the rake integration jobs to all cookbooks first | 16:49 |
jklare | so this one will probably stay wip for a while | 16:49 |
j^2 | markvan: +1 on the abandon it | 16:50 |
j^2 | them* | 16:50 |
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markvan | jklare: agreed, just get the periodic or repo gate one in first | 16:50 |
jklare | +1 on abandon | 16:51 |
j^2 | 9 mins | 16:51 |
jklare | nothing to add from my side :) | 16:52 |
sc` | mariadb will most likely need a version bump for the centos-specific changes. that's an action item for me | 16:52 |
j^2 | sc`: nice, that’s for tracking that | 16:53 |
j^2 | cool, anything else or i’ll go ahead and close this meeting? | 16:53 |
sc` | i'm good | 16:53 |
j^2 | #endmeeting | 16:54 |
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flwang | o/ | 20:59 |
vkmc | o/ | 20:59 |
flaper87 | #startmeeting Zaqar | 21:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Jun 22 21:00:22 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is flaper87. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Zaqar)" | 21:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'zaqar' | 21:00 |
flaper87 | YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO | 21:00 |
flaper87 | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Zaqar#Agenda | 21:00 |
vkmc | hallo! | 21:00 |
flaper87 | That's our agenda for today | 21:00 |
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flaper87 | Brought to you by our amazing wiki | 21:01 |
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flaper87 | ok | 21:01 |
flaper87 | lets get to it | 21:01 |
flaper87 | for realz | 21:01 |
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flaper87 | #topic Persistent transport | 21:02 |
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flaper87 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/188770/ | 21:02 |
flaper87 | vkmc: floor is yours | 21:02 |
vkmc | cool! | 21:02 |
vkmc | so, last week we discussed a few things that would make the implementation for persistent transport better perf wise | 21:02 |
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vkmc | one of those things was the pubsub feature that Autobahn provides | 21:02 |
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vkmc | by inspecting a bit Autobahn code, I noticed this is implemented by using the WAMP protocol, which is a wrapper over Websocket that enables PubSub and RPC | 21:03 |
vkmc | plus other stuff | 21:04 |
vkmc | it adds a lot more to Zaqar that we originally planned | 21:04 |
flaper87 | IIRC, we reviewed WAMP when we first started looking at autobahn | 21:04 |
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flaper87 | right ? | 21:04 |
vkmc | we did yes | 21:04 |
vkmc | we kept with websocket because at that moment we considered it was a more general solution | 21:04 |
vkmc | but certainly we can change it if we consider that appropriate | 21:05 |
flaper87 | coolio | 21:05 |
vkmc | IMO, it would be nice to have the websocket driver | 21:05 |
vkmc | and then extend that to wamp, if possible | 21:05 |
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flaper87 | ok, I guess we can keep with our current plan | 21:05 |
flaper87 | s/with// | 21:05 |
vkmc | I should check things out a bit more and see how we can make it work | 21:05 |
flaper87 | and then we'll revisit | 21:05 |
vkmc | right | 21:05 |
flaper87 | cool | 21:06 |
flaper87 | any ETA for the websocket transport ? | 21:06 |
vkmc | and another thing I wanted to bring up today | 21:06 |
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vkmc | yes, this week | 21:06 |
vkmc | it has to be liberty 1 | 21:06 |
vkmc | IT HAS TO | 21:06 |
vkmc | haha | 21:06 |
flaper87 | awesome, looking forward to that | 21:06 |
vkmc | cool | 21:06 |
flaper87 | anything else? | 21:07 |
vkmc | another thing I wanted to bring up -and this might the ETA a little- is the netstrings | 21:07 |
vkmc | in last week meeting we talked about enabling netstrings for the websocket responses | 21:07 |
flaper87 | did you have time to check that? | 21:07 |
vkmc | with a format like <bytes><message> | 21:07 |
flaper87 | that was an action item on you | 21:07 |
vkmc | kinda yes | 21:07 |
vkmc | I'm not very happy with the options I came up with | 21:08 |
vkmc | so I could use your ideas | 21:08 |
vkmc | right now we are returning a big JSON response with headers and a list of messages | 21:08 |
flaper87 | awesome, are those written somewhere? | 21:08 |
vkmc | nope | 21:08 |
flaper87 | ok, feel free to keep going | 21:08 |
vkmc | I'll update the spec accordingly, but I wanted to have this chat first | 21:08 |
vkmc | would you like to discuss this after the meeting? | 21:09 |
flaper87 | otherwise, we can discuss them with a fresher mind in our morning | 21:09 |
vkmc | sounds good to me, I'll wrote things down and we can revisit this week earlier | 21:09 |
flaper87 | that said, feel free to keep going | 21:09 |
flaper87 | awesome | 21:09 |
vkmc | s/wrote/write | 21:09 |
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vkmc | great, nothing else websocket side | 21:10 |
flaper87 | perfect, thanks a lot for digging into that | 21:10 |
vkmc | I replied to the review and I'll update the patch later today | 21:10 |
flaper87 | #topic Email publisher | 21:10 |
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flaper87 | where's flwang ? | 21:10 |
flaper87 | he dissapeared | 21:10 |
flaper87 | bah, ok | 21:11 |
flaper87 | #topic pymongo | 21:11 |
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flaper87 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/193161/ | 21:11 |
flaper87 | I already mentioned this in hte channel | 21:11 |
flaper87 | but I wanted to also mention it here | 21:11 |
flaper87 | it's important to land that patch | 21:11 |
flaper87 | and supper review it | 21:11 |
flaper87 | I'll ping flwang later | 21:12 |
flaper87 | I've nothing else | 21:12 |
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flaper87 | flwang wanted to talk about integration status | 21:12 |
flaper87 | and plans for redis | 21:12 |
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flaper87 | but he's not around | 21:12 |
vkmc | looks good to me | 21:12 |
* flaper87 shrugs | 21:12 | |
flaper87 | #topic open discussion | 21:12 |
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vkmc | but I'll make it official later | 21:12 |
flaper87 | i think we're in a good shape | 21:13 |
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vkmc | when are we cutting L1? | 21:13 |
flaper87 | I'd like to fix all these pending bugs and get the pre-signed uri thing done | 21:13 |
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flaper87 | it's supposed to be this friday | 21:14 |
vkmc | k k | 21:14 |
flaper87 | 23-26 | 21:14 |
vkmc | roger that | 21:14 |
flaper87 | ok, that's all I have | 21:14 |
flaper87 | 3 | 21:14 |
flaper87 | 2 | 21:14 |
flaper87 | 1 | 21:14 |
flaper87 | thanks vkmc | 21:14 |
flaper87 | :) | 21:14 |
flaper87 | ttyl in our bat channel | 21:14 |
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vkmc | thanks flaper87 | 21:15 |
flaper87 | #endmeeting | 21:15 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jun 22 21:15:11 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:15 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zaqar/2015/zaqar.2015-06-22-21.00.html | 21:15 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zaqar/2015/zaqar.2015-06-22-21.00.txt | 21:15 |
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flwang1 | are you still there? | 21:20 |
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