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| carl_baldwin | salv-orlando, I wonder if it is time to merge the IPAM interface. Does it need any updates that you know of? | 15:40 |
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| salv-orlando | carl_baldwin: I am ok with merging it as it is. If it needs changes we can do it at another time. Since it has no implementation we can do any change we want. | 15:58 |
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| salv-orlando | carl_baldwin: if you want ask around if anybody has concerns about merging an interface without an implementation | 15:59 |
| salv-orlando | to me it has the same impact as a README file. And if one does not want it anymore, they can revert easily (as long as we did not merge any impl) | 15:59 |
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| carl_baldwin | Moving this conversation ^ to openstack-neutron | 16:11 |
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| alaski | #startmeeting nova_cells | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 11 17:00:15 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alaski. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova_cells)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_cells' | 17:00 |
| bauzas | aloha | 17:00 |
| alaski | yea, someone remembered the time change :) | 17:00 |
| bauzas | pretty easy for a EU people not yet having a DST shidt | 17:01 |
| bauzas | shift | 17:01 |
| melwitt | o/ | 17:01 |
| alaski | oh, hah :) | 17:01 |
| bauzas | apparently US folks are used to UTC ^^ | 17:01 |
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| alaski | working on openstack has that affect | 17:02 |
| alaski | #topic Open Discussion | 17:02 |
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| alaski | with FPF there's not much going on atm except some code reviews and revisions | 17:02 |
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| alaski | I have a series starting at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/157423/ that's getting some reviews, but more are always appreciated | 17:03 |
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| melwitt | I've been trying some stuff with the cyclic instance.save() but haven't had success yet (with it working well, not with it stopping the cycle) | 17:03 |
| alaski | melwitt: excellent | 17:03 |
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| alaski | any particular aspect you want to bring up, or do you want to just work on it some more? | 17:04 |
| melwitt | just want to work on it some more, I started it last night so it's early on | 17:05 |
| alaski | gotcha | 17:05 |
| alaski | for cells v1 there's a series at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/157185/7 as well | 17:05 |
| bauzas | alaski: that's a bugfix series so not impacted by FF | 17:05 |
| alaski | yeah | 17:06 |
| bauzas | alaski: sounds like you also updated the etherpad, cool | 17:06 |
| bauzas | alaski: maybe you should just wipe what's either merged or deferred | 17:07 |
| melwitt | aside from that, cells job failures running off master are 40 failures when I run locally. the idempotent ec2 test failure has gone away I noticed in CI | 17:07 |
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| bauzas | alaski: that should ease the reviewing thing | 17:07 |
| alaski | bauzas: can do | 17:07 |
| alaski | melwitt: nice | 17:07 |
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| alaski | I would love to get that job voting before L | 17:08 |
| alaski | I have a little more work on tests for my current path series, and then I can help look into what's left | 17:09 |
| bauzas | alaski: we should maybe advert on the bugfix series so it would decrease the number | 17:09 |
| bauzas | alaski: and we should closely monitor the number of failures | 17:09 |
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| melwitt | there isn't much left that is fixable from what I see. a lot of them are to do with floating ip pool (not available in cell db, so get not found), instance group not found. the failure that I assume is fixable is the "cells routing inconsistency" which is what a lot of the failures boil down to | 17:09 |
| bauzas | alaski: that's unfortunate that logstash couldn't show up the trend | 17:09 |
| alaski | melwitt: hmm, I would have thought the floating-ip stuff would be skipped | 17:10 |
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| melwitt | like this for example http://logs.openstack.org/06/160506/4/check/check-tempest-dsvm-cells/b391d63/logs/screen-n-api.txt.gz#_2015-03-05_01_11_33_783 | 17:10 |
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| melwitt | alaski: it is from the regex standpoint. maybe it's gone now (have to check the 40 failures details). I don't see a failure of tempest.thirdparty.boto.test_ec2_network.EC2NetworkTest.test_disassociate_not_associated_floating_ip anymore | 17:12 |
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| alaski | melwitt: oh, cool | 17:13 |
| alaski | so https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141905/2 was intended to address something like that other failure | 17:13 |
| alaski | from the logs | 17:14 |
| alaski | something may have changed, but that should be an easy enough one to fix | 17:14 |
| melwitt | thanks, that's a good pointing in the right direction | 17:15 |
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| alaski | with non bugfix coding wrapping up I'm going to start proposing specs for L soon | 17:16 |
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| alaski | scheduling and whatever comes out of neutron discussions are going to be the big focuses I think | 17:17 |
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| alaski | anything else anyone wants to discuss? | 17:18 |
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| alaski | cool | 17:20 |
| alaski | this should start getting more action packed again once specs are up | 17:20 |
| melwitt | :) | 17:20 |
| alaski | that's it for today | 17:20 |
| bauzas | :) | 17:20 |
| alaski | :) | 17:20 |
| alaski | #endmeeting | 17:20 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 11 17:20:58 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:21 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2015/nova_cells.2015-03-11-17.00.html | 17:21 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2015/nova_cells.2015-03-11-17.00.txt | 17:21 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2015/nova_cells.2015-03-11-17.00.log.html | 17:21 |
| alaski | thanks melwitt bauzas ! | 17:21 |
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| bauzas | np | 17:21 |
| bauzas | alaski: next week, I'll have to figure out if TV shows are good or bad in the meantime | 17:22 |
| alaski | bauzas: heh. unfortunately I didn't think ahead when scheduling this meeting and it's going to be during my dinner time during DST | 17:23 |
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| bauzas | alaski: oh, just thought it will be around midnight during DST | 17:28 |
| bauzas | ouch. | 17:28 |
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| bauzas | 11pm was doable, but 12am sounds a bit more difficult :) | 17:28 |
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| bauzas | alaski: what about proposing to shift by 1 hour earlier ? :) | 17:29 |
| alaski | bauzas: I'm considering that | 17:29 |
| bauzas | alaski: shouldn't impact Asian peers | 17:29 |
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| alaski | I'll need to check on how that affects our AUS folks | 17:29 |
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| bauzas | alaski: yeah, if I'm not doing mistakes, they are H+10 with me | 17:37 |
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| bauzas | so 12am means 10am for them | 17:38 |
| alaski | ahh, so moving it wouldn't be bad then | 17:38 |
| alaski | I just want to avoid < 9 if possible, and definitely earlier than 8 | 17:38 |
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| bauzas | alaski: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?year=2015&month=3&day=12&p1=1268&p2=25&p3=5&p4=224 | 17:45 |
| bauzas | alaski: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2015&month=3&day=12&hour=22&min=0&sec=0&p1=1268&p2=25&p3=5&p4=224 sounds a reasonable fit for summer times | 17:46 |
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| alaski | bauzas: that's what it is now right? | 17:47 |
| * bauzas *facepalm* | 17:47 | |
| bauzas | stupid DST | 17:47 |
| alaski | lol | 17:47 |
| bauzas | you guys have changed, we don't | 17:48 |
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| bauzas | alaski: do you know where Rackspace and AU folks are located ? Adelaide is closer to me than Sidney so indeed that's either EU or AU folks but not both | 17:49 |
| bauzas | maybe we can just leave as it is, and forget about me, I don't want to break anything | 17:50 |
| bauzas | EU folks already have the alternate timeslot | 17:50 |
| alaski | bauzas: I don't know. I beleive the office is in SYD, but since workers could be remote(I think) I'm not sure where tonyb would bne | 17:50 |
| alaski | be | 17:50 |
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| alaski | bauzas: I would like to move it an hour earlier too. I'll check with everyone next week about it | 17:51 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: absubram vishwanathj: hi | 18:31 |
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| vishwanathj | SumitNaiksatam, absubram, badveli, all, Hi | 18:31 |
| pc_m | hi | 18:31 |
| yamahata | hello | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: hi, wating for SridarK to join | 18:31 |
| vishwanathj | pc_m, yamahata, hello | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yamahata: hi, good to see you | 18:31 |
| badveli | hello all | 18:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | lets get started, nevertheless | 18:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #startmeeting Networking FWaaS | 18:32 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 11 18:32:13 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SumitNaiksatam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:32 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:32 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_fwaas' | 18:32 |
| SridarK_ | Hi All | 18:32 |
| vishwanathj | SridarK_, Hi | 18:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #info metting agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/FWaaS#Agenda_for_Next_Meeting | 18:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK_: hi | 18:32 |
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| SridarK_ | SumitNaiksatam: vishwanathj: Hi | 18:32 |
| badveli | hello sridar | 18:33 |
| SridarK_ | badveli: hi | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | anyone wanting to share anything upfront? | 18:33 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | ok | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Bugs and Docs | 18:35 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | i dont believe this has changed since last week | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we had one critical gate breaking issue show up during the week | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1428907 | 18:35 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1428907 in neutron "FWaaS: Fix UT breakage in neutron-fwaas" [Undecided,Fix committed] - Assigned to Sumit Naiksatam (snaiksat) | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | that was fixed | 18:35 |
| SridarK_ | SumitNaiksatam: yes, thx for that | 18:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | np | 18:36 |
| vishwanathj | SumitNaiksatam, Thanks for fixing it | 18:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | thanks to some of the work done by pc_m in vpnaas on this front as well | 18:36 |
| vishwanathj | +1 | 18:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | it made it easier to ramp up on the issue | 18:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | the reason i brought this up is because we dont have co-gating with neutron | 18:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so changes on neutron can potentially break us | 18:37 |
| pc_m | FYI: dougwig is working on pinning LBaaS to a specific Neutron hash. Looking to copying what he does, in the VPN repo. | 18:38 |
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| pc_m | Big question will be how to automate the update of that hash, so we don't have to frequently/manually do it. | 18:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: good point | 18:38 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: do you know if we are going to run a services’ specific gate job in neutron? | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | at least that was the plan earlier | 18:39 |
| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: Not sure. Seems like that is what they need to do, to be able to qualify a commit for use in *aaS. | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: yeah | 18:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i also want to bring up temptest test, and pc_m will need your input, but lets do that as a separate topic | 18:40 |
| pc_m | Having a neutorn library in PyPI would solve a bunch of the issues, but that's a way off. | 18:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK_: badveli anything more on bugs? | 18:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: true | 18:41 |
| SridarK_ | SumitNaiksatam: nothing from me | 18:41 |
| badveli | we had a similar issue for varmour ut | 18:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: okay | 18:41 |
| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: Glad to help | 18:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i have made no progress on #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-api-site/+bug/1425658 | 18:41 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1425658 in openstack-api-site "FWaaS needs WADL doc to be available in the API reference" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Sumit Naiksatam (snaiksat) | 18:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so if anyone wants to jump in, please feel free, otherwise i will follow up on this soon | 18:41 |
| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: I'm really interested in what you guys do there. I'll need to do the same for VPN | 18:42 |
| badveli | i had the patch | 18:42 |
| badveli | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/161424/ | 18:42 |
| badveli | i will rebase again | 18:43 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: sure | 18:43 |
| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: sure, give us a heads up when you do | 18:44 |
| SumitNaiksatam | okay moving on | 18:44 |
| badveli | ok, thanks sumit | 18:44 |
| SridarK_ | badveli: sorry i have not had a chance yet - will do so soon | 18:44 |
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| badveli | thanks sridark | 18:44 |
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| yushiro | sorry to late! | 18:45 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | yushiro: no worries, thanks for joining, i know its a really odd time for you | 18:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Firewall Router Association | 18:45 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK_: seems like you made great progress | 18:45 |
| vishwanathj | +1 | 18:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK_: its great to see that you have the DB upgrade script in there as well | 18:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: yushiro thanks for your review on SridarK_’s patch | 18:46 |
| SridarK_ | SumitNaiksatam: yes - i think most things are done to the best of my knowledge (i am always afraid of jinxing myself) | 18:46 |
| pc_m | sure np | 18:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: particularly keeping us honest with the oslo changes/requirements! | 18:46 |
| SridarK_ | SumitNaiksatam: yes +1 thanks to pc_m and yushiro and urself for all the comments | 18:46 |
| pc_m | :) | 18:46 |
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| yushiro | SumitNaiksatam, you are welcome. | 18:47 |
| SridarK_ | SumitNaiksatam: need to resolve vendor implications with badveli: | 18:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK_: ah i was just about to ask | 18:47 |
| SridarK_ | we are okay on Freescale, vyatta | 18:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK_: at this point are you blocked at anything? | 18:48 |
| SridarK_ | and intel folks are also ok | 18:48 |
| SridarK_ | SumitNaiksatam: not really - will close on these to ensure that there is no issue there | 18:48 |
| SridarK_ | Also itsuro had some comments on the CLI | 18:48 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK_: okay | 18:49 |
| SumitNaiksatam | is itsuro here? | 18:49 |
| SridarK_ | SumitNaiksatam: but i think we will cover the usability aspects on the CLI patch | 18:49 |
| SridarK_ | SumitNaiksatam: and i will clarify that we are good on the server side of things | 18:49 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK_: okay good | 18:50 |
| SridarK_ | SumitNaiksatam: other than that i am just doing more testing | 18:50 |
| SridarK_ | SumitNaiksatam: i will cover pc_m and ur comments soon | 18:50 |
| SridarK_ | Also vishwanathj: & absubram: have made great progress on the related Horizon patch | 18:51 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK_: yeah i was coming to that | 18:51 |
| SridarK_ | ok sorry i will shut up | 18:51 |
| SumitNaiksatam | vishwanathj: absubram: thanks so much for jumping all over that | 18:51 |
| SridarK_ | SumitNaiksatam: yes a huge +1 | 18:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK_: oh no worries, i just wanted to make sure that your patch is discussed, it gets the time and attention :-) | 18:52 |
| vishwanathj | SumitNaiksatam, SridarK_, absubram, thaks for the opportunity | 18:52 |
| SridarK_ | :-) | 18:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | vishwanathj: are you good so far? | 18:52 |
| vishwanathj | I will still need some expert consultation from absubram, majority of the work is done, there are some bugs related to widgets showing up in GUI | 18:53 |
| vishwanathj | I am sure we will be able to get through them | 18:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so here is my proposed course of action - | 18:54 |
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| vishwanathj | SumitNaiksatam, go ahead | 18:55 |
| SumitNaiksatam | if SridarK_ can post the devstack local.conf, the rest of us can go ahead and try the cli, horizon | 18:55 |
| SridarK_ | SumitNaiksatam: will do | 18:55 |
| SridarK_ | there is nothing new needed | 18:56 |
| SumitNaiksatam | vishwanathj: how are you functionally testing horizon? | 18:56 |
| SridarK_ | we can go with q-fwaas and pull the patch in | 18:56 |
| SridarK_ | thats all | 18:56 |
| SridarK_ | I have some sort of testplan | 18:56 |
| vishwanathj | I am only testing for the appearance of widgets in UI for now, once all the widgets appear as expected, I can use SridarK's patch with devstack | 18:56 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK_: okay, nice | 18:57 |
| SumitNaiksatam | vishwanathj: good | 18:57 |
| SridarK_ | Will get that out a little later today | 18:57 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK_: can i request you try out a new devstack install, just so that the rest of the team know for sure that the instructions work? | 18:57 |
| vishwanathj | There were 2 enhancements that absubram, SridarK_ and I talked about yesterday and am having issues with those getting displayed | 18:57 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK_: or perhaps request shweta | 18:57 |
| SridarK_ | SumitNaiksatam: sounds good will do that | 18:57 |
| SridarK_ | SumitNaiksatam: she just got one up now | 18:58 |
| SridarK_ | and was able to do basic stuff | 18:58 |
| SridarK_ | but i will take that action item | 18:58 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK_: sweet, perhpas she can post the instructions? | 18:58 |
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| SridarK_ | SumitNaiksatam: ok will do so | 18:58 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | vishwanathj: ok, lets take that discussion offline | 18:58 |
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| vishwanathj | ok | 18:59 |
| SumitNaiksatam | vishwanathj: absubram: sorry i have not had a chance to follow up on the patch, i wanted to first test out in devstack before going to the code | 18:59 |
| vishwanathj | ok | 19:00 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | i dont see any activity on the CLI patch, but thats probably because i have put it in WIP: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/158118/ | 19:01 |
| vishwanathj | yup | 19:01 |
| vishwanathj | is it ready to be reviewed or still in WIP | 19:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | vishwanathj: its ready to be reviewed | 19:01 |
| shwetaap | @SumitNaiksatam, SridarK_: I see i was mentioned :). I just brought up a new devstack setup and was able to successfully create a firewall with Sridar's code. I will post out instructions once i am able to test more commands. | 19:02 |
| vishwanathj | currently reviewing SridarK_ 's patch, will review yours once I am done with his | 19:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | actually it was always ready, but i put it into WIP because the server patch was not there :-) | 19:02 |
| vishwanathj | ok | 19:02 |
| SridarK_ | shwetaap: thanks and thanks for helping | 19:02 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | shwetaap: great, thanks stopping by! ;-) | 19:02 |
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| shwetaap | sure! | 19:02 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | shwetaap: no really, thanks on behalf of the team here for agreeing to jump in at a short notice | 19:03 |
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| SridarK_ | SumitNaiksatam: she offered on 10 mins notice - so really appreciate that | 19:03 |
| shwetaap | happy to help out! | 19:03 |
| vishwanathj | +1 | 19:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | shwetaap is helping SridarK_ out with the end to end testing | 19:03 |
| yushiro | SumitNaiksatam, thank you for your information about CLI patch. I will review it. | 19:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yushiro: great thanks much | 19:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK_: vishwanathj shwetaap: thanks for all the updates on this topic | 19:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK_: anything more to discuss? | 19:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | on this topic | 19:04 |
| SridarK_ | SumitNaiksatam: no i am done thx | 19:04 |
| vishwanathj | I had a question related to a patch related to Sridar's https://review.openstack.org/#/c/161881/ | 19:05 |
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| vishwanathj | Do I need to get this reviewed and approved prior to 19th of March as well? | 19:05 |
| vishwanathj | This patch is dependent on SridarK_ patch getting approved | 19:05 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | vishwanathj: ideally yes | 19:06 |
| vishwanathj | and impacts our Brocade vyatta vendor code | 19:06 |
| SridarK_ | vishwanathj: i am happy to include that | 19:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK_: yeah that might be another option | 19:06 |
| vishwanathj | SridarK_, that would be great, thanks | 19:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | vishwanathj: it can be fixed in SridarK_’s patch | 19:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | thanks SridarK_ ! | 19:06 |
| SridarK_ | vishwanathj: when i first pinged - that was my intent to make sure if there is a piece to go in - would need u to bless it and i will pick it up | 19:06 |
| SridarK_ | vishwanathj: no worries at all | 19:07 |
| vishwanathj | SridarK_, I understand now, will sync up with you offline | 19:07 |
| SridarK_ | one more thing | 19:07 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | ok moving on | 19:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic FWaaS functional testing gate | 19:07 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://review.openstack.org/161415 | 19:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | was merged | 19:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so yay on that! | 19:07 |
| SridarK_ | SumitNaiksatam: oh wow | 19:08 |
| SridarK_ | i did not realize that | 19:08 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | and again big thanks to pc_m, it was a breeze based on his documentation | 19:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | though i still had to bug him | 19:08 |
| pc_m | :) | 19:08 |
| vishwanathj | cool | 19:08 |
| SridarK_ | pc_m: yes thanks | 19:08 |
| SridarK_ | this wil enable us to actually make some changes if needed easily | 19:09 |
| pc_m | Glad it is helping out | 19:09 |
| pc_m | (the instructions) | 19:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and the neutron-fwaas patch is in review: | 19:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/161479/ | 19:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | vishwanathj: thanks for catching the commit message faux pas | 19:09 |
| SridarK_ | SumitNaiksatam: fwaas guys to buy lunch or dinner for pc_m at Vancouver | 19:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK_: that has already been taken as an action item@ | 19:10 |
| SridarK_ | :-) | 19:10 |
| pc_m | sweet! | 19:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | at this rate it might have to be both, lunch and dinner | 19:10 |
| pc_m | :) | 19:10 |
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| yushiro | sounds good! | 19:10 |
| SridarK_ | +1 | 19:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we need to get the neutron-fwaas patch merged (after i fix the commit message) | 19:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and then subsequently start adding functional tests | 19:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we would need the entire team to chip in with some tests | 19:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so speak up if you want to volunteer | 19:12 |
| SridarK_ | SumitNaiksatam: this also has the Mar 19 deadline | 19:12 |
| vishwanathj | let me finish my horizon effort and then I can chip in | 19:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK_: good question, i dont know | 19:12 |
| SridarK_ | SumitNaiksatam: if my patches see some light - i can help for sure | 19:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | vishwanathj: sweet! | 19:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK_: nice | 19:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | one test per person is also good :-) | 19:12 |
| SridarK_ | :-) | 19:13 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | and while on that - the tempest tests seem to have merged in neutron | 19:13 |
| SridarK_ | so now our patches will be voted on from here | 19:14 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK_: i am not sure i understood that comment | 19:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: do you know if there is a requirement to move the tempest test out of tempest and into *aaS repos as well? | 19:15 |
| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: Do you know the review for that? | 19:15 |
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| SridarK_ | sorry - once we have this set up with tests - on a patch the tests are picked from neutron_fwaas and not tempest repo | 19:15 |
| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: My understand was they were going to move tests from tempest and get them working in Neutron, and then we (the *aaS owners) can move the *aaS ones to our repos. | 19:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: okay, i was looking at #link https://github.com/openstack/neutron/commit/b649712c9d0b8547cf851e2185bc72128ca8e948 | 19:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK_: yeah, along those lines | 19:17 |
| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: thanks! | 19:17 |
| SridarK_ | SumitNaiksatam: ok thx | 19:17 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: if you do hear about an urgent need for *aaS to do this, please let us know | 19:17 |
| pc_m | will do | 19:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: i do believe lbaas is going after this right away | 19:18 |
| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: Yeah I think so. VPN only has one module. | 19:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: okay | 19:18 |
| pc_m | Need to figure out the procedure as need to move the git history. I think they have a script from Doug. | 19:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so in general, this is another place where we people in the team to chip in with moving the tempest tests to the neutron-fwaas repo | 19:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: yes, seems like that script is being referenced in the commit message | 19:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so we will need someone to shepherd this change | 19:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i wish i could tell you what exactly needs to be done, but this is a bit new to me too | 19:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | by default, if no one picks up this item, it falls in my plate, but that is risky because i might drop the plate! | 19:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | anyway, we can follow up on this offline | 19:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | anything more to discuss on the gate? | 19:21 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | okay moving on | 19:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Service Objects | 19:22 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: over to you | 19:22 |
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| badveli | yes sumit | 19:22 |
| badveli | i am also investigating the tempest part | 19:22 |
| badveli | for my unit tests | 19:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: okay good | 19:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: anything to discuss on the service objects patches? | 19:23 |
| badveli | is only neutron patch sufficient as of now? | 19:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: not sure | 19:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: in general since the patches were posted recently, and given the rush with the other items, you might see less review activity | 19:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: i am hoping not, but if you do, that would be the reason | 19:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we have 4 mins | 19:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: anything specific you wanted to discuss with the team with regards to those patches? | 19:26 |
| badveli | ok thanks sumit, but if we know exactly what the reviewers are looking for, during spec review there were questions about the generality | 19:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: a good place to ask your earlier question would be the neutron team meeting since that patch is in neutron | 19:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: true | 19:26 |
| badveli | if nothing else is needed i can concentrate on the neutron patch | 19:27 |
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| badveli | with the time i can spent | 19:27 |
| badveli | of my interest | 19:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: okay | 19:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Open Discussion | 19:28 |
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| vishwanathj | yamahata, is the intel team planning to get the Intel CI to vote for the McAfee NGFW driver patch? | 19:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we did not discuss vendor patches | 19:28 |
| yamahata | Yes. | 19:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | vishwanathj: right on the cue | 19:28 |
| yamahata | It is taking time though. | 19:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yamahata: great, that way we can make progress with the patch | 19:29 |
| yamahata | We are getting close | 19:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | vishwanathj: did you have any outstanding comments on that patch? | 19:29 |
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| SridarK_ | SumitNaiksatam: we should also our CI voting soon | 19:29 |
| vishwanathj | that was the only comment that came to my mind now, I had put off the review waiting for their CI to vote | 19:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | vishwanathj: perhaps good to do the review anyway (to the extent you can) | 19:30 |
| vishwanathj | ok | 19:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ok, we are out of time | 19:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | any parting thoughts for today? | 19:30 |
| vishwanathj | get SridarK_ patch merged soon | 19:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | vishwanathj: yay to that!! :-) | 19:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | alrighty, thanks everyone for your time today | 19:31 |
| SridarK_ | :-) | 19:31 |
| SridarK_ | thanks all | 19:31 |
| pc_m | bye | 19:31 |
| SridarK_ | bye | 19:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | back to the patches and the reviews! | 19:31 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | bye all! | 19:31 |
| vishwanathj | bye | 19:31 |
| yamahata | bye | 19:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #endmeeting | 19:31 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 11 19:31:51 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:31 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2015/networking_fwaas.2015-03-11-18.32.html | 19:31 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2015/networking_fwaas.2015-03-11-18.32.txt | 19:31 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2015/networking_fwaas.2015-03-11-18.32.log.html | 19:31 |
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| david-lyle | #startmeeting Horizon | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 11 20:00:25 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is david-lyle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Horizon)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 20:00 |
| TravT | o/ | 20:00 |
| mrunge | o/ | 20:00 |
| rhagarty | hey | 20:00 |
| gary-smith_ | hi | 20:00 |
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| doug-fish | hi all | 20:00 |
| crobertsrh | Hello/ | 20:00 |
| matt-borland | o/ | 20:00 |
| mattfarina | hello | 20:01 |
| tqtran_ | o/ | 20:01 |
| robcresswell | Evening all | 20:01 |
| wchrisj | hello | 20:01 |
| sqchen | hello | 20:01 |
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| lhcheng | o/ | 20:01 |
| david-lyle | Hello everyone | 20:01 |
| jgravel | hi | 20:01 |
| absubram | hi | 20:02 |
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| david-lyle | Ok, FPF is upon us, code should be up for patches for K-3 items | 20:02 |
| vishwanathj | HI | 20:02 |
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| esp | o/ | 20:03 |
| doug-fish | is this the part of the meeting where we make confessions regarding code that isn't going to make k3? | 20:03 |
| absubram | :) | 20:04 |
| wchrisj | lol | 20:04 |
| david-lyle | doug-fish: yes, good segue | 20:04 |
| david-lyle | #link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/kilo-3 | 20:04 |
| david-lyle | 10 Good progress, 1 Beta Available, 12 Needs Code Review, 10 Implemented | 20:05 |
| esp | haha | 20:05 |
| mrunge | what's the difference here? | 20:05 |
| mrunge | I mean, between good progress, beta and code review? | 20:05 |
| david-lyle | beta, unsure, radomir set that | 20:06 |
| mrunge | (I'm just curious how to set that right) | 20:06 |
| david-lyle | good progress means most pieces are ready for review, but not all, or WIP | 20:07 |
| david-lyle | Needs Code Review should mean just that, ready to review and merge as far as the author is concerned | 20:07 |
| mrunge | ah, ok. thanks! | 20:07 |
| david-lyle | ideally we should only have Needs Code Review on that list | 20:08 |
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| mrunge | yepp, agreed | 20:08 |
| david-lyle | but there are a few high priority items that we can be flexible for | 20:08 |
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| wchrisj | david-lyle: I had a bugfix merged a couple of nights ago that isnt on this list. Should I pursue getting it on this list? How? | 20:09 |
| david-lyle | bug fixes are separate | 20:10 |
| wchrisj | ok | 20:10 |
| david-lyle | we can land those up to RC | 20:10 |
| wchrisj | cool | 20:10 |
| david-lyle | and then even critical ones | 20:10 |
| david-lyle | this is new features | 20:10 |
| david-lyle | status on the blueprint is a mess | 20:11 |
| david-lyle | was just looking through them | 20:11 |
| david-lyle | if you have multiple patches on your bp and some have landed, put "-- merged" next to the patch in the whiteboard | 20:12 |
| mrunge | oh yes please! | 20:13 |
| vishwanathj | david-lyle, what steps do I need to execute next to get the https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/fwaas-router-insertion approved for K-3, I have already uploaded a WIP patch set | 20:13 |
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| david-lyle | vishwanathj: I'm willing to consider it, but the dependencies haven't merged. also get amotoki on board to review it | 20:14 |
| vishwanathj | The neutron side of the blueprint will merge either late this week or early next week, all our pending pieces for horizon will be complete in the next couple days | 20:14 |
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| david-lyle | trouble is we're very overloaded and this is coming very late | 20:14 |
| vishwanathj | david-lyle, completely understand | 20:15 |
| david-lyle | next week will be the end of k-3 | 20:15 |
| vishwanathj | got some great help from absubram to get started in a short time | 20:15 |
| david-lyle | once it lands ping me and we can talk about it | 20:16 |
| vishwanathj | david_lyle, thanks a bunch | 20:16 |
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| david-lyle | I'll start walking through the patches, at this point WIP is not enough, and reviewers need to focus on items that don't have a bunch of work left to complete | 20:17 |
| david-lyle | unless the priority is high, but the WIP needs to move to Ready for Review quickly | 20:18 |
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| david-lyle | There were no items added to the agenda, so I'll open it up | 20:19 |
| david-lyle | #topic Open Discussion | 20:20 |
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| wchrisj | I'd like to thank folks, especially cores for the quick turnaround of late on reviewing/approving stuff. | 20:20 |
| doug-fish | there was dicussion about better error messages/exception handling today in IRC | 20:20 |
| doug-fish | I know we've had a blueprint open for that for a while, but it's still an issue | 20:21 |
| robcresswell | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/improve-error-message-details-for-usability | 20:21 |
| robcresswell | ^^ relevant | 20:21 |
| doug-fish | maybe worth a summit session? | 20:21 |
| doug-fish | yeah, that's it robcresswell | 20:21 |
| mrunge | yes, we need to talk about that | 20:21 |
| mrunge | or even a smaller work item for the summit | 20:21 |
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| david-lyle | sure, add it | 20:21 |
| robcresswell | Would definitely like to follow up on this as we move into Liberty. At the very least, I think a good start would be to start properly handling different exceptions and throw specific errors per exception | 20:21 |
| robcresswell | With generic fallbacks | 20:22 |
| david-lyle | we won't solve for K anyway | 20:22 |
| doug-fish | mrunge: you have a suggestion to divide it off smaller? | 20:22 |
| * mrunge adding that now | 20:22 | |
| doug-fish | I guess I partly wanted revisit just to make sure we are all still onboard with no exception showing | 20:22 |
| david-lyle | the main reason for limited progress on that is lack of options | 20:22 |
| mrunge | doug-fish, I would assume, it doesn't need all attendees, but should come up with a rule or a conclusion | 20:23 |
| mrunge | to put it down somewhere in the wiki | 20:23 |
| doug-fish | sure - we could do that in short order I think | 20:23 |
| david-lyle | yes | 20:23 |
| doug-fish | coming up with a direction for improvement - there's the challenge | 20:23 |
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| david-lyle | mrunge: can you share the wiki you started again for the summit? | 20:24 |
| mrunge | at least, we have a few ideas there :D | 20:24 |
| mrunge | david-lyle, YOU started: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/horizon-liberty-summit | 20:24 |
| mrunge | and I added stuff ;-) | 20:24 |
| david-lyle | oh sure, blame me | 20:24 |
| david-lyle | :) | 20:24 |
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| mrunge | will do | 20:24 |
| david-lyle | thanks! | 20:25 |
| mrunge | david-lyle, for the summit, we should come up with some kind of plan, what to discuss and whom to pull in | 20:25 |
| mrunge | at least some companies might want to know, who to send there | 20:26 |
| david-lyle | mrunge: yes, I don't have final word on the allotment of slots we ended up with | 20:26 |
| mrunge | ah, I see | 20:26 |
| david-lyle | maybe all that I requested | 20:26 |
| david-lyle | not sure | 20:26 |
| mrunge | would be very cool | 20:26 |
| TravT | when do you find out? | 20:26 |
| david-lyle | either way, we can make time | 20:26 |
| david-lyle | TravT: not sure that either | 20:27 |
| mrunge | on the other side, not every topic needs all people involved | 20:27 |
| david-lyle | schedule actually has been earlier than years past | 20:27 |
| david-lyle | but with the changing format of sessions created need earlier for room configurations | 20:28 |
| david-lyle | usually the newly elected PTL makes all those calls | 20:28 |
| tqtran_ | david-lyle: btw, any news on getting our own requirements? just wondering where we are | 20:28 |
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| david-lyle | tqtran_: no, although I had a hair-brained idea about that today | 20:28 |
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| TravT | hair brained ideas can lead to good things... | 20:29 |
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| tqtran_ | lets hear it lol | 20:29 |
| david-lyle | what if instead of 20 xstatic packages, we created 1 vendor package with versioned requirements in it, that contained all our js dependency packages | 20:29 |
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| david-lyle | then we have one openstack/requirements package to include | 20:30 |
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| david-lyle | it's messier, but from a packaging standpoint potentially less so, or the same | 20:30 |
| TravT | interesting, we'd still have to ask infra for approval each time, right | 20:30 |
| mrunge | that wouldn't be able to get packaged | 20:30 |
| david-lyle | mrunge: horizon was | 20:30 |
| mrunge | because of bundling stuff | 20:31 |
| mrunge | as an exception | 20:31 |
| david-lyle | yeah, there are a lot of issues with it | 20:31 |
| mrunge | but now that we solved that, distros wouldn't allow that back | 20:31 |
| david-lyle | well at least one distro just dropped us do to the package proliferation | 20:31 |
| TravT | any updates on bower that anybody knows about? | 20:31 |
| david-lyle | *due | 20:31 |
| david-lyle | there is no pleasing everyone | 20:32 |
| david-lyle | but everyone miserable, isn't ideal | 20:32 |
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| TravT | but i've heard that misery loves company | 20:32 |
| TravT | ;-) | 20:32 |
| david-lyle | TravT: well we aren't lonely | 20:32 |
| mattfarina | there are some ideas on bower and there's https://review.openstack.org/#/c/154297/ | 20:33 |
| david-lyle | tqtran_: the problem with our own requirements is that it still requires all the same license and vendor checks | 20:33 |
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| mattfarina | that's openstack_infra speck for bower | 20:33 |
| TravT | mattfarina: can you add to that etherpad? I just added a bullet for this topic | 20:34 |
| mattfarina | k | 20:34 |
| mattfarina | infra seems to be open to bower if we can get the mirroring solved. going out to the net for bower and GitHub (to download the packages) regularly fails and they won't try it for Horizon | 20:35 |
| david-lyle | yup, there needs to be a mirror | 20:35 |
| david-lyle | since we have time, I'd also like to talk about Horizon as we move to the big tent | 20:36 |
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| mattfarina | there needs to be 2 mirrors. One mirror of bower (the registry) and another mirror for the code (which lives separately from bower) | 20:36 |
| david-lyle | nothing 4 mirrors can't fix | 20:36 |
| david-lyle | :) | 20:36 |
| mattfarina | in each AZ of each host | 20:37 |
| mattfarina | glad cloud is about scale | 20:37 |
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| TravT | Every problem can be solved by another level of indirection... | 20:37 |
| david-lyle | I think the breadth of horizon is getting beyond our ability to deliver on | 20:38 |
| mrunge | yes! | 20:38 |
| david-lyle | there are too many projects we support | 20:38 |
| mattfarina | and i think vendors want to have their own projects be easily worked into horizon | 20:39 |
| david-lyle | in the future, and this will be discussed extensively at the summit, there will be even more projects | 20:39 |
| mattfarina | so, can we go to a module approach? where there's a base platform that can be easily extended? | 20:40 |
| wchrisj | and "private" projects within a given org | 20:40 |
| david-lyle | I propose moving some project plugins out into the openstack namespace/ecosystem | 20:40 |
| mrunge | mattfarina, already noted for summit | 20:40 |
| mattfarina | so, like there are clients for different projects there are horizon add-ins to support different services? | 20:41 |
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| mrunge | that might be a way | 20:41 |
| TravT | which projects? | 20:41 |
| mrunge | I was thinking in the same direction | 20:41 |
| david-lyle | yes and they are full members of the eco-system, just not coexistent in the Horizon code | 20:41 |
| lhcheng | probably something like tuskar-ui? | 20:41 |
| david-lyle | lhcheng: exactly | 20:42 |
| david-lyle | but maybe with a slightly different core group | 20:42 |
| david-lyle | the three projects that immediately come to mind are Trove, Sahara, and Hear | 20:42 |
| david-lyle | *Heat | 20:42 |
| wchrisj | yes! | 20:42 |
| lhcheng | david-lyle: don't they have their own core group? or does Ana and Radomir need to +1 them? | 20:42 |
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| lhcheng | *+A | 20:43 |
| david-lyle | they are actually very isolated from an API standpoint | 20:43 |
| david-lyle | lhcheng: trying to remember | 20:43 |
| mrunge | for tripleo? | 20:43 |
| mrunge | i think all horizon cores are core in triple-o | 20:43 |
| david-lyle | tuskar-ui has a blended core | 20:44 |
| mrunge | but they need currently just a single +2 and a+ | 20:44 |
| mrunge | if I'm not completely wrong here | 20:44 |
| david-lyle | yes, because, the horizon core could not take on that load either | 20:44 |
| david-lyle | and the attention there has waned | 20:45 |
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| david-lyle | I think we need to provide style guides and tools for these projects to move forward | 20:45 |
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| david-lyle | but absorbing a full releases worth of features on rapidly growing/changing projects is very difficult | 20:46 |
| david-lyle | it's also very tedious and slow for those projects waiting on us | 20:46 |
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| mrunge | projects are mostly python projects. we're moving away from that quite fast | 20:47 |
| david-lyle | we don't have any support for ironic going into Kilo in Horizon even though it is in the integrated release | 20:47 |
| doug-fish | are you envision a plugin model like cinder/nova/neutron? | 20:47 |
| david-lyle | doug-fish: we have a plugin model | 20:47 |
| david-lyle | we just have to use it | 20:47 |
| wchrisj | Agreed | 20:48 |
| david-lyle | we do internally | 20:48 |
| doug-fish | panels/dashboards right? | 20:48 |
| mrunge | we are using it | 20:48 |
| david-lyle | projects, admin and identity are plugins | 20:48 |
| mattfarina | is the plugin model documented somewhere? | 20:48 |
| david-lyle | they are just all in the same code base | 20:48 |
| mattfarina | i think it can be expanded on as well | 20:48 |
| mrunge | sure, it's all in the wiki | 20:48 |
| wchrisj | it's also in the developer docs | 20:48 |
| david-lyle | mattfarina: in the horizon docs | 20:48 |
| david-lyle | what wchrisj said | 20:48 |
| mrunge | but you can not replace single panels or override single tables | 20:49 |
| wchrisj | there's even a tutorial now | 20:49 |
| david-lyle | mrunge: single panels yes, single tables, no | 20:49 |
| mrunge | at least not that easy. | 20:49 |
| david-lyle | we should continue to expand the pluggability to finer grained elements | 20:50 |
| TravT | david-lyle: i think it would be great to spend more time in strengthening to plugin model, especially for angular usage | 20:50 |
| mattfarina | What TravT said | 20:50 |
| doug-fish | david-lyle: yeah that's what I was hoping for | 20:50 |
| wchrisj | david-lyle: would it help to take the tutorial that's there and expand it to use the plugin model? | 20:50 |
| mrunge | yes, | 20:50 |
| TravT | david-lyle: and that will be easier to do if we are able to focus on less projects overall like you suggest | 20:50 |
| mrunge | wchrisj, sure! | 20:50 |
| david-lyle | yes, and I believe we've started some of that work with Launch instance | 20:50 |
| wchrisj | I can do that | 20:50 |
| wchrisj | as a first effort | 20:51 |
| mrunge | wchrisj, just go ahead, that's awesome | 20:51 |
| wchrisj | Done. | 20:51 |
| david-lyle | sure | 20:51 |
| TravT | david-lyle: yep. | 20:51 |
| mattfarina | if there are more projects not part of the core it would force the plugin model to work for them and provide multiple public cases testing it | 20:51 |
| esp | does the current plugin model support dashboard/panels that live in a separate package? | 20:51 |
| david-lyle | esp yes | 20:51 |
| esp | david-lyle: nice | 20:52 |
| david-lyle | I have a demo package somewher | 20:52 |
| david-lyle | e | 20:52 |
| esp | I’d prefer moving toward something like that | 20:52 |
| david-lyle | plus monasca-ui and tuskar-ui | 20:52 |
| esp | but then I guess we have the problem of versioning | 20:52 |
| david-lyle | https://github.com/dklyle/mon-ext | 20:52 |
| TravT | Along these lines, this is the kind of thing I wanted to be dealing with pre-summit as well. I'm thinking probably a big meetup will be hard to do pre-liberty, but maybe we can run some virtual sprints on these topic areas. | 20:52 |
| david-lyle | esp: that's what I'm suggesting :) | 20:53 |
| esp | good stuff | 20:53 |
| david-lyle | openstack/requirements should help with dependency consistency | 20:54 |
| david-lyle | and we can focus on the core of Horizon | 20:54 |
| esp | k | 20:54 |
| wchrisj | fwiw, here's the doc on the plugin settings: https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/master/doc/source/topics/settings.rst#pluggable-settings | 20:54 |
| david-lyle | the workflows that require cross-stack coordination | 20:54 |
| david-lyle | and docs and examples | 20:54 |
| esp | thx wchrisj | 20:55 |
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| david-lyle | murano will be here soon and manila and those should be plugins | 20:55 |
| david-lyle | as well | 20:55 |
| david-lyle | consistent UX will be the biggest issue and we'll need to work with them on that | 20:55 |
| mrunge | more to the pain points: are we removing stuff? | 20:56 |
| mrunge | like trove or sahara? | 20:56 |
| mrunge | move to plugins? | 20:56 |
| david-lyle | and heat, that's what I'm suggesting | 20:56 |
| mrunge | router dashboard? | 20:56 |
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| david-lyle | ceilometer will be valuable cross-stack when ready | 20:56 |
| david-lyle | mrunge: +1000 | 20:56 |
| robcresswell | haha | 20:56 |
| mrunge | even neutron? | 20:57 |
| robcresswell | thats a whole lot of approval. | 20:57 |
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| mrunge | given, that it's only covered by a very few people? | 20:57 |
| david-lyle | additionally, there could be extensions that just focus on nova if desired | 20:57 |
| david-lyle | mrunge: I think neutron is central to what we need to support | 20:57 |
| mrunge | agreed david-lyle | 20:57 |
| mrunge | but in reality, only amotoki really understands, what's going on there | 20:58 |
| david-lyle | with less context switching, maybe more can focus there | 20:58 |
| TravT | david-lyle: i really like the spirit of what you are saying | 20:58 |
| david-lyle | we need to work more proactively with the neutron team | 20:58 |
| david-lyle | but.. | 20:58 |
| mrunge | :D | 20:58 |
| mrunge | agreed. removing that would be too painful | 20:59 |
| david-lyle | I thought that was the set up punch TravT, I waiting for the haymaker | 20:59 |
| TravT | david-lyle: no, that's pretty much it... | 21:00 |
| TravT | maybe just, the devil is in deciding what is in and out. | 21:00 |
| david-lyle | first round is easy I think | 21:00 |
| mrunge | let's toss a coin | 21:00 |
| mrunge | not to blame a devil | 21:00 |
| david-lyle | the PaaS layer essentially | 21:00 |
| TravT | we've also run into some things on launch instance within projects | 21:01 |
| TravT | for example, network profile support which appears to come all the way back too if something = 'cisco' | 21:01 |
| david-lyle | That shouldn't be there, it needs to be a general solution | 21:02 |
| mrunge | yes. I could assume other features added by vendors to inflict with launch instance | 21:02 |
| doug-fish | and an appropriate extension point for our cisco friends | 21:02 |
| mrunge | like more scheduling | 21:02 |
| mrunge | different scheduling, | 21:02 |
| david-lyle | yes, launch should probably allow extensions for more steps | 21:02 |
| TravT | yep | 21:03 |
| mrunge | nova extensions | 21:03 |
| david-lyle | well it definitely should | 21:03 |
| david-lyle | we're over time, and I'm not sure if someones waiting for the room | 21:03 |
| TravT | that was the idea from the begining... but with the idea that we solve the concrete of what is there now and work on better extensibility | 21:03 |
| mrunge | can we move that discussion to #horizon? | 21:03 |
| david-lyle | Someone ? | 21:03 |
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| david-lyle | probably the better choice mrunge | 21:03 |
| david-lyle | moving to horizon room | 21:04 |
| mrunge | thanks! | 21:04 |
| david-lyle | Thanks everyone! | 21:04 |
| david-lyle | #endmeeting | 21:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings" | 21:04 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 11 21:04:17 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:04 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2015/horizon.2015-03-11-20.00.html | 21:04 |
| esp | thx! | 21:04 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2015/horizon.2015-03-11-20.00.txt | 21:04 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2015/horizon.2015-03-11-20.00.log.html | 21:04 |
| mrunge | thank you all | 21:04 |
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