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| tqtran | crazy time *mumbles to self* | 11:59 |
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| david-lyle | #startmeeting Horizon | 12:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 7 12:00:32 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is david-lyle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 12:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 12:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Horizon)" | 12:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 12:00 |
| david-lyle | anyone around to chat about Horizon? | 12:01 |
| r1chardj0n3s | yep | 12:01 |
| neillc | yep | 12:01 |
| markus_z | yep | 12:01 |
| doug-fish | indeed | 12:01 |
| mrunge | o/ | 12:01 |
| akrivoka | hi \o | 12:01 |
| tqtran | <--- | 12:01 |
| r1chardj0n3s | (mumbling) | 12:01 |
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| david-lyle | is that a flatline tqtran? | 12:01 |
| jpich | Happy new year♪ | 12:02 |
| tqtran | close to it | 12:02 |
| r1chardj0n3s | Indeed, happy new year :) | 12:02 |
| mattfarina | yes | 12:02 |
| ygbo | yep | 12:02 |
| robcresswell | o/ | 12:03 |
| david-lyle | great | 12:04 |
| david-lyle | General items first | 12:04 |
| david-lyle | There a couple of cross-project specs that are up for review | 12:04 |
| david-lyle | one around logging standards | 12:04 |
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| david-lyle | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/132552/ | 12:05 |
| david-lyle | and one around profiling #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/134839/ | 12:05 |
| david-lyle | these are the first two true cross-project specs, in an attempt to create some uniformity across the projects | 12:06 |
| david-lyle | the individual projects are encouraged to review these and the TC has final approval | 12:07 |
| david-lyle | From my perspective, I think this is a very positive step, so I would encourage our participation | 12:07 |
| david-lyle | more information can be found at #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/crossproject/2015/crossproject.2015-01-06-21.02.log.html | 12:08 |
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| david-lyle | and an obligatory status check | 12:09 |
| david-lyle | #link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/kilo-2 | 12:09 |
| david-lyle | between k-1 carry-over from k-1 and lots of items from varied contributors, this is a large list | 12:11 |
| david-lyle | k-3 has been kept intentionally small to catch some of the overflow | 12:11 |
| david-lyle | but it's still a lot | 12:11 |
| doug-fish | david-lyle: are the 2 cross project efforts you linked intended for kilo? | 12:12 |
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| david-lyle | doug-fish: I believe that's the intent, but I could imagine work still taking place in Lemming to address them | 12:13 |
| doug-fish | yeah | 12:13 |
| david-lyle | to be honest, I'm not entirely sure the carrot/stick to implement them | 12:14 |
| david-lyle | we'll learn more once they're adopted | 12:14 |
| david-lyle | I think the profiler work would be coming from that team | 12:14 |
| doug-fish | sure - they just seem late to still be under discussion to get done in kilo unless there is somebody waiting to implement | 12:14 |
| david-lyle | logging, not sure | 12:14 |
| david-lyle | additionally, I want to remind people of #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Horizon/Blueprint_Reviews | 12:16 |
| david-lyle | some items scheduled are not fully approved yet | 12:16 |
| david-lyle | That's all I have for general items | 12:16 |
| david-lyle | agenda for today can be found at #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Horizon | 12:17 |
| david-lyle | #topic Review blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/serial-console | 12:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/serial-console (Meeting topic: Horizon)" | 12:17 | |
| david-lyle | mzoeller or rbertram? | 12:17 |
| rbertram | markus_z added that - are you on? | 12:18 |
| markus_z | I'm mzoeller, hi | 12:18 |
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| markus_z | Should I introduce the bp in a few words? | 12:18 |
| david-lyle | yes please | 12:19 |
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| markus_z | Nova provides a new API to connect to the launched instances via a "serial console". This is an alternative to VNC, RDP, SPICE. | 12:20 |
| markus_z | This blueprint covers the usage of this new API to connect to instances via serial console via horizon. | 12:20 |
| rbertram | btw, Nova API was available in Juno; just waiting to be used | 12:21 |
| david-lyle | so is this in addition to the SPICE, VNC and RDP available now, or are you intending to replace all those as well? | 12:22 |
| markus_z | This is an addition, not a replacement. | 12:23 |
| rbertram | My current code fails over to SERIAL when the other 3 are not there | 12:23 |
| markus_z | Some platforms do not support VNC, RDP, SPICE and depend on a "serial console". | 12:23 |
| rbertram | I've got a working implementation, with bugs to fix & testing to add. | 12:24 |
| david-lyle | but if I've followed the conversations in #openstack-horizon, the implementation is client side | 12:24 |
| david-lyle | which would be different than the other 3? | 12:25 |
| rbertram | Yes, it uses term.js | 12:25 |
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| rbertram | One big to-do is xstatic for term.js, depending on how our next meeting topic goes | 12:25 |
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| david-lyle | ok, I see you've added it to the Kilo review list already | 12:27 |
| rbertram | I don't want to sink more time into it without validation from others that it is on right path | 12:28 |
| david-lyle | I think this is pretty straightforward support of nova api | 12:28 |
| markus_z | Yes, I wasn't quite sure how the process looks like. | 12:28 |
| david-lyle | I think you're on the right track | 12:28 |
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| rbertram | Should it be marked k-3? | 12:29 |
| david-lyle | I'd keep working on it, and encourage people to review the bp with any concerns | 12:29 |
| david-lyle | rbertram: sure | 12:29 |
| rbertram | cool | 12:29 |
| david-lyle | anyone else have any questions on this topic? | 12:30 |
| david-lyle | #topic Angular work blockers: Xstatic now or wait on Bower? need reviews! (tqtran) | 12:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Angular work blockers: Xstatic now or wait on Bower? need reviews! (tqtran) (Meeting topic: Horizon)" | 12:31 | |
| tqtran | so the angular work that we have started is currently block by two things | 12:31 |
| tqtran | it depends on API which provides the data, and 3rd party libs (currently through xstatic) | 12:32 |
| tqtran | the first is not too hard, we just need more eyes and reviews on it. | 12:32 |
| tqtran | the 2nd, we are currently trying to get it through xstatic, but with discussion on maybe using bower in the future, not sure what the right course is. | 12:33 |
| david-lyle | agree on the first, I think people are coming back to life now, myself included, to start reviewing again, we'll try to get that part moving | 12:34 |
| tqtran | right now, this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/133767/ has about 5 dependencies | 12:34 |
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| tqtran | would be good to start seeing some of those dependencies get merge, its a real pain to rebase each time | 12:34 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | (and that doesn't include the requirements.txt changes needed for the xstatic packages) | 12:35 |
| r1chardj0n3s | sorry, the *visible* dependencies don't include the requirements/global-requirements changes | 12:35 |
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| mrunge | r1chardj0n3s, tqtran so, there are no tests on that code? | 12:35 |
| tqtran | yep, im currently using cdn until the requirements is merged | 12:36 |
| mrunge | I know, testing is lame, but still we want that | 12:36 |
| david-lyle | tqtran: isn't this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136676/ the blocking patch? | 12:36 |
| tqtran | tests will be added, right now, we just want to clear up the dependency chain first | 12:36 |
| tqtran | david-lyle: yes, thats one of them | 12:37 |
| mrunge | to get bower in fedora, I'd need around 30 new packages | 12:37 |
| david-lyle | that one does have tests | 12:37 |
| tqtran | the other big blocker is: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139284/ | 12:37 |
| mrunge | not counting the 20 already there in bowers build dep chain | 12:38 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | mrunge: if you want bower for development, I've posted a solution using nodeenv to give that to you | 12:38 |
| r1chardj0n3s | mrunge: if you are re-packaging, then you don't need bower | 12:39 |
| mrunge | r1chardj0n3s, and how do I provide dependent javascript libs? | 12:39 |
| r1chardj0n3s | mrunge: sorry, what dependent javascript libs? | 12:39 |
| mrunge | we can take that somewhere else | 12:40 |
| mrunge | r1chardj0n3s, dependent to the new implementation | 12:40 |
| r1chardj0n3s | mrunge: what new implementation? sorry, I'm not following | 12:40 |
| david-lyle | r1chardj0n3s: all the libraries brought in by bower | 12:40 |
| mrunge | r1chardj0n3s, to your horizon re.implementation | 12:40 |
| david-lyle | fedora or ubuntu have to deliver those libraries somehow | 12:41 |
| r1chardj0n3s | david-lyle: bower and its implemenation is handled by nodeenv, which hides it all away so you don't have to worry about it - it just gives you a bower command to run | 12:41 |
| mrunge | r1chardj0n3s, our build system has no internet connection, by purpose | 12:41 |
| r1chardj0n3s | david-lyle: I understood that fedora et al would repackage the client-side js libs we're getting through bower | 12:41 |
| r1chardj0n3s | just like they repackage the xstatic stuff now | 12:42 |
| mrunge | and you're not telling me, you'd go to every production server, running bower install or whatever...? | 12:42 |
| david-lyle | r1chardj0n3s: that's what we're trying to figure out | 12:42 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | ok, these are the problems that need to be raised in the mailing list, so thought can be put into them :) | 12:43 |
| mrunge | if we just leave the packaging stuff aside, one would need to ssh into your web server environment, execute bower install (or whatever) to set up horizon? | 12:44 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | mrunge: do you install using fedora packaging? | 12:44 |
| mrunge | r1chardj0n3s, I would want to install via rpm packages | 12:44 |
| mrunge | debian folks via debian packages | 12:44 |
| mrunge | etc. | 12:44 |
| r1chardj0n3s | mrunge: right, so the stuff that we as devs get via bower, you get through fedora (And others get through deb) | 12:44 |
| tqtran | basically, the point is to raise awareness so we can move these patches along because they are blocking the angular effort. sounds to me like we'll continue using xstatic until the bower stuff gets resolve | 12:44 |
| mrunge | r1chardj0n3s, exactly. and *how* does that stuff get there? | 12:45 |
| r1chardj0n3s | someone builds an rpm or a dev | 12:45 |
| mrunge | yes | 12:45 |
| r1chardj0n3s | yes | 12:45 |
| r1chardj0n3s | er | 12:45 |
| r1chardj0n3s | dev | 12:45 |
| r1chardj0n3s | deb | 12:45 |
| mrunge | since I'd be the person to do, how do I pull in that stuff *from source*? | 12:45 |
| mrunge | without bower? | 12:45 |
| r1chardj0n3s | bower just installs from a github repos | 12:46 |
| r1chardj0n3s | so you get it from that repos | 12:46 |
| r1chardj0n3s | using a tag | 12:46 |
| mrunge | well, I make a copy of a github repo | 12:46 |
| mrunge | and execute all build steps | 12:46 |
| r1chardj0n3s | there's no build steps | 12:46 |
| mrunge | which is slightly more than just copying a javascript file | 12:46 |
| r1chardj0n3s | bower provides static files only | 12:46 |
| mrunge | e.g to *build* angularjs, I need bower and a HUGE pile of other stuff | 12:49 |
| mrunge | I mean, to do it properly | 12:49 |
| r1chardj0n3s | no, you clone the angular repos and copy the files from it | 12:49 |
| mrunge | debian folks will disagree here | 12:50 |
| mrunge | I could go on with xstatic approach | 12:50 |
| mrunge | not completely killing this meeting | 12:50 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I feel I'm fighting a lot of FUD over bower, which is a shame, because xstatic is such an energy sap :( | 12:51 |
| mrunge | but you didn't answer my other question: | 12:51 |
| mrunge | how would I set up horizon on a production environment? | 12:51 |
| mrunge | r1chardj0n3s, I agree, xstatic is not a good solution | 12:51 |
| r1chardj0n3s | using your fedora or debian packages | 12:51 |
| mrunge | I mean, using your proposed way, I mean | 12:52 |
| r1chardj0n3s | mrunge: on angular specifically, you clone the https://github.com/angular/bower-angular repository and copy files to make your fedora / debian package | 12:52 |
| mrunge | git clone horizon and then? | 12:52 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | mrunge: you told me before that you install from rpms | 12:53 |
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| mrunge | uhm, I was asking you, how you propose to set up horizon | 12:54 |
| mrunge | which is probably different from my approach | 12:54 |
| r1chardj0n3s | hang on, you asked me "how would I set up horizon on a production environment?" | 12:54 |
| mrunge | yes | 12:54 |
| r1chardj0n3s | not how I set it up (as a developer) | 12:54 |
| mrunge | yes# | 12:54 |
| r1chardj0n3s | and the answer to your question about setting up your production environment is using rpms | 12:55 |
| r1chardj0n3s | no cloning of gits | 12:55 |
| mrunge | ok, we're on the same side here :D | 12:55 |
| r1chardj0n3s | yes! :) | 12:55 |
| r1chardj0n3s | the *only* thing that needs to be done in a bower world is that you create your rpms from the bower githubs instead of some xstatic git | 12:56 |
| mrunge | yes! | 12:56 |
| r1chardj0n3s | \o/ | 12:56 |
| mrunge | xstatic works, but it's not a clean solution | 12:56 |
| mrunge | still on the same side | 12:56 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | xstatic works, but it's a significant barrier that keeps coming up | 12:57 |
| david-lyle | mrunge, this has to be similar to how the jquery packaging is done | 12:57 |
| r1chardj0n3s | the angular upgrade that TravT is trying to do... ugh | 12:57 |
| david-lyle | for fedora | 12:57 |
| david-lyle | so this isn't a new methodology, I wouldn't think | 12:57 |
| david-lyle | repackaging a tag in a git repo | 12:57 |
| r1chardj0n3s | yup | 12:57 |
| mrunge | david-lyle, jquery packaging has the same issue like bower or angular | 12:58 |
| david-lyle | but an rpm exists | 12:58 |
| david-lyle | correct? | 12:58 |
| mrunge | yes | 12:58 |
| r1chardj0n3s | for reference, https://github.com/jquery/jquery is the bower github for jquery :) | 12:58 |
| david-lyle | My point is, this is different from the typical packaging around python libraries, but we're not breaking new ground | 12:59 |
| david-lyle | in any of the distros | 12:59 |
| r1chardj0n3s | yep | 12:59 |
| david-lyle | just adding a lot of new packages | 12:59 |
| david-lyle | which is painful, but would be using xstatic too | 13:00 |
| mrunge | david-lyle, the thing is, that you need a huge bunch of new packages to build that single one | 13:00 |
| r1chardj0n3s | there's a fair chance that they won't need to create new packages for most of the stuff that doesn't get upgraded yet | 13:00 |
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| david-lyle | r1chardj0n3s: mrunge indicated 30 just for bower | 13:00 |
| r1chardj0n3s | existing packaging based on xstatic has the same files in it | 13:01 |
| david-lyle | because they need both sides of the toolchain | 13:01 |
| r1chardj0n3s | so can continue to be used until there's a new release desired | 13:01 |
| david-lyle | dev and production | 13:01 |
| mattfarina | something to consider, the distro packaged versions of js (and other web things) is usually far behind the current version. ubuntu packages jquery 1.7 for example | 13:01 |
| david-lyle | mattfarina: whatever we depend on horizon gets replaced with the distro package | 13:01 |
| david-lyle | so we take that into account now | 13:02 |
| mrunge | mattfarina, no, bundling is just wrong | 13:02 |
| david-lyle | but yes, we'd have to continue to support older versions | 13:02 |
| david-lyle | even if using bower | 13:02 |
| david-lyle | ok, we're over time | 13:03 |
| mrunge | for reference, js-jquery build description is slightly more than just copying javascript code: https://patches.fedorapeople.org/jquery/js-jquery1.spec | 13:03 |
| david-lyle | mrunge: I wasn't indicating it was simple, just that it happens :) | 13:03 |
| mrunge | david-lyle, yes, and I agree, we'll figure it out | 13:04 |
| mrunge | still it's a tonne of work to do for a simple file | 13:04 |
| david-lyle | mrunge: agreed | 13:04 |
| david-lyle | We really do need to come to an agreed path forward, otherwise we're going to be blocked, or further down the xstatic hole | 13:05 |
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| david-lyle | I may try to schedule a separate meeting with the stackholders | 13:05 |
| r1chardj0n3s | my most revent email on the subject was my attempt to add some concrete, but I think it's still lacking on the detail that mrungeneeded | 13:05 |
| r1chardj0n3s | well s/detail/info | 13:06 |
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| david-lyle | Thanks everyone, I'm going to close the meeting, feel free to continue discussion. | 13:06 |
| david-lyle | #endmeeting | 13:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 13:06 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 7 13:06:47 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:06 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2015/horizon.2015-01-07-12.00.html | 13:06 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2015/horizon.2015-01-07-12.00.txt | 13:06 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2015/horizon.2015-01-07-12.00.log.html | 13:06 |
| r1chardj0n3s | it's past midnight, thanks everyone but I'm going to bed (though I have to be the tooth fairy on the way ;) | 13:07 |
| robcresswell | could we continue this on openstack-horizon? Or drop back to the mailer? | 13:07 |
| robcresswell | ah, nvm :0 | 13:07 |
| robcresswell | :) * | 13:07 |
| robcresswell | o/ | 13:07 |
| tqtran | hahaha, dont be a cheap tooth fairy | 13:07 |
| r1chardj0n3s | pls go back to email. I'm on vacation as of tomorrow, but will definitely respond to mails about this :) | 13:07 |
| r1chardj0n3s | tqtran: never! :) | 13:07 |
| tqtran | haha | 13:07 |
| mrunge | r1chardj0n3s, good night | 13:07 |
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| mrunge | r1chardj0n3s, and enjoy your vacation | 13:08 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: vishwanathj: hi | 18:30 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: hi | 18:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: hi | 18:30 |
| pc_m | hi! | 18:30 |
| vishwanathj | Hi SumitNaiksatam, SridarK, pc_m | 18:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #startmeeting Networking FWaaS | 18:30 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 7 18:30:53 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SumitNaiksatam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:30 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Networking FWaaS)" | 18:30 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_fwaas' | 18:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | new year greetings to you! | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #info metting agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/FWaaS#Agenda_for_Next_Meeting | 18:31 |
| vishwanathj | Happy New year filled with +2's for all :) | 18:31 |
| SridarK | Happy New Year to all as well | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #info Kilo-2 is Feb 5th | 18:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i believe we would have multiple patches to be lined for this | 18:32 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: yes i will have one for vendor and one for Router Insertion | 18:33 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #topic FWaaS code split and work items | 18:33 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | i am not sure if we have any pending items for this | 18:33 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: i think we are good on this | 18:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | the UT refactor was merged on dec 19th | 18:34 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: i ran some tests with devstack and we are good | 18:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: great | 18:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i havent checked what the tempest status is | 18:34 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: hi | 18:35 |
| badveli | hello sumit and all | 18:35 |
| SridarK | badveli: hi | 18:35 |
| badveli | hello sridark | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Bugs | 18:36 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: Networking FWaaS)" | 18:36 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | i see some new low priority bugs | 18:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | but nothing critical | 18:36 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: yes on this | 18:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Docs | 18:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Docs (Meeting topic: Networking FWaaS)" | 18:37 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | one thing we are missing is the developer documentation | 18:37 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/neutron/devref/fwaas.html# | 18:37 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we need to take some stab at it sooner than later | 18:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i will look at it | 18:38 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: if it is not urgent - i can help as well | 18:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | others are welcome to help | 18:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: thanks, yes sure | 18:38 |
| vishwanathj | sure | 18:38 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: ok cool - next week is bad after that will be fine | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | not sure if we need to follow up on the FWaaS/DVR documentation anymore | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i dont think Swami is around, and have not heard back from him | 18:39 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: i will check with Swami to see if something is needed | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: great, thanks | 18:40 |
| SridarK | np | 18:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic FWaaS: L3 Agent restructure - observer hierarchy | 18:40 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140884/ | 18:40 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | vishwanathj: brought this up earlier today | 18:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and pc_m is here | 18:40 |
| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: Yes, need review of this. | 18:40 |
| pc_m | It is first of two parts. | 18:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so we can probably have a short discussion | 18:40 |
| SridarK | pc_m: i am looking now | 18:40 |
| SridarK | and it looks good | 18:40 |
| pc_m | This adds the service class and loads the driver. | 18:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: vishwanathj was requesting a bit of summary/guidance on this | 18:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: in case you want to oblige | 18:41 |
| pc_m | A later commit can do any L3 event callbacks (if any). | 18:41 |
| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: Sure. | 18:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: starting with the commit in neutron | 18:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://github.com/openstack/neutron/commit/2494da22007b204113e48f5fe2ccbcb8594ce1f2#diff-2 | 18:42 |
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| pc_m | The goal is to separate the services from the L3 agent. | 18:42 |
| pc_m | To do this, we're trying to tease apart the code. There are three things that we're working on. | 18:42 |
| pc_m | One is at init, drivers are loaded by the services. This, we moved to a new service class. | 18:43 |
| pc_m | Two is that there are L3 events that services are interested in. | 18:43 |
| pc_m | To deal with this, we use the service class as an "observer" that subscribes with an event notifier instance. | 18:44 |
| pc_m | In the L3 agent, it will do before and after notifications for certain events. The event notifier object will then notify each of the observers registered. | 18:44 |
| pc_m | This gives the observer (e.g VPN driver) a chance to take any action. | 18:45 |
| pc_m | Three is that some device drivers call back into the L3 agent for things. | 18:45 |
| pc_m | For now, we've been placing those methods in the service class, as it knows the L3 agent and can forward the calls. | 18:46 |
| pc_m | The plan is to have a Router object, and in the future the device drivers will get that object (instead of an L3 agent) and can directly access it. | 18:46 |
| pc_m | These methods will then be removed. | 18:47 |
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| pc_m | Here' s a placeholder for VPN: https://review.openstack.org/145219 | 18:47 |
| pc_m | Make sense? | 18:47 |
| vishwanathj | pc_m, thanks for the summary | 18:48 |
| pc_m | vishwanathj: np | 18:48 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: yes, thanks | 18:48 |
| vishwanathj | thanks for the VPN link as well | 18:48 |
| pc_m | So with FW, we're trying to do step 1, doing the driver. | 18:48 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: tiny nit, now that i think back - perhaps AdvancedServicesOberver would have been a better class name than “AdvancedServices” for: #link https://github.com/openstack/neutron/commit/2494da22007b204113e48f5fe2ccbcb8594ce1f2#diff-8c9b587b95c8967128f336672d1b5a01R22 | 18:48 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: but thats only merged | 18:49 |
| pc_m | Here's teh VPN refactoring, which is done: https://review.openstack.org/140918 | 18:49 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so besides the point | 18:49 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: i believe it will be easier to do the firewall insertion if this change gets in first? | 18:49 |
| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: Yeah, there was quite a bit of naming discussion, but it is a base class and then each service will have a concrete class, so you can call the FW one with Observer on it. | 18:50 |
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| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: we may over write some of these changes with insertion | 18:50 |
| pc_m | In fact, there is still some discussion on whether the AdvanceService should e a singleton or not. | 18:50 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: in which case I think better for pc_m’s patch to merge first | 18:50 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: but yes i think we should decouple this | 18:50 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: yes | 18:51 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: where is this discussion happening? | 18:51 |
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| vishwanathj | pc_m, the three things you mentioned, are they all targeted for kilo-2? | 18:51 |
| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: mostly in the reviews. | 18:51 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: okay | 18:51 |
| pc_m | vishwanathj: yes. | 18:51 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: when do you anticipate posting a WIP for the follow up FWaaS patch, or is someone else planning to post that patch? | 18:52 |
| pc_m | vishwanathj: The third will likely be later, as the router class is targeted for K-2, so this will be changed after that. | 18:52 |
| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: Glad you asked... | 18:52 |
| pc_m | I wanted to get this device driver one in first. Then, I'd like to work with someone from the FW team to see what events are needed, whether the existing notification are ok or if more are needed, etc. | 18:53 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: i was just trying to understand if we need to see the followup patch before merging the current one | 18:53 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: ah okay, so your expectation is to get this merged first | 18:53 |
| SridarK | pc_m: i can definitely look at that or work with u - i am quite familiar with that code | 18:53 |
| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: I don't think so, the first provides the basic class, and driver load, so is decoupled. | 18:54 |
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| pc_m | SridarK: Would love that. Maybe next week, when I'm in SJ? | 18:54 |
| SridarK | pc_m: surely | 18:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: okay good, so we can focus on getting the current patch reviewed and merged first | 18:54 |
| pc_m | SridarK: I'll be arriving Monday, so will have all Tuesday to work on it. | 18:54 |
| SridarK | pc_m: as i indicated earlier that area is going to see a lot of flux with the router insertion work as well | 18:54 |
| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: Super | 18:55 |
| vishwanathj | pc_m, are the vendor drivers code patch uploads expected to wait until the first two things are completed? | 18:55 |
| pc_m | SridarK: Good to know. We can work it together. | 18:55 |
| SridarK | pc_m: sounds good | 18:55 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: the follow up patch(es) will be in neutron-fwaas or in neutron, or both? | 18:56 |
| pc_m | vishwanathj: Good question. I think they can work independently. What we did with VPN, which already existed, was to put the hooks in place, and then implement the event handlers/moving. | 18:56 |
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| SridarK | vishwanathj: i think in theory u will have to wait - but i think u can still make some progress on the plugin and kind of treat this as a black box | 18:57 |
| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: The event handlers, if new are needed, will affect both places (definition/notifier in neutron, handler in neutron-fwaas). | 18:58 |
| vishwanathj | pc_m, SridarK, thanks | 18:58 |
| pc_m | For the router instance, that'll be all in the neutron-fwaas I suspect. | 18:58 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: in that case, can the firewall insertion and this change be handled in the same patch? | 18:59 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: perhaps question for you as well ^^^ | 18:59 |
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| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: pc_m: It can be done that way as we will land up mauling all that code | 18:59 |
| SridarK | today we are interested in router add notifications | 18:59 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | i am trying to see how we can land the firewall insertion change in K2 since that is highest priority in my opinion | 19:00 |
| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: May be good to decouple all the chnages. | 19:00 |
| SridarK | but we may not need this with the router insertion changes | 19:00 |
| SridarK | but we will want to the leave the repo in a sane state | 19:00 |
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| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: perhaps pc_m & us can discuss the changes more in detail when he is in SJ ? | 19:01 |
| SridarK | and then decide | 19:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | since review cycles are limited, i would hope to get the attention focussed on the firewall insertion changes (after the pc_m’s current patch is merged) | 19:01 |
| pc_m | As we have it now, we retro-fitted the changes in. Essentially, created the event, then moved the logic over. | 19:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: sure | 19:01 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | perhaps we can do this on tuesday and anyone else interested can join as well (vishwanathj i am looking at you ;-) ) | 19:02 |
| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: Sounds fine. I can always try to work the FW stuff and get guidance from SridarK. | 19:02 |
| vishwanathj | SumitNaiksatam, sure | 19:02 |
| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: re; tuesday, yeah, I have no other plans. | 19:02 |
| SridarK | Sounds good folks | 19:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ok lets do that then | 19:02 |
| vishwanathj | I will be in San Jose next week | 19:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | moving on | 19:03 |
| SridarK | vishwanathj: we can work out offline on the logistics unless u are in SJ next week as well :-) | 19:03 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #topic FWaaS insertion | 19:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "FWaaS insertion (Meeting topic: Networking FWaaS)" | 19:03 | |
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| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: any update on this? | 19:03 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: with the time off and all have started looking at this | 19:03 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: np | 19:04 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: first step is to look at functional blocks to break out the reviews in sensible chunks | 19:04 |
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| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: if that is needed | 19:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hmmm…is it going to be that big a change? | 19:04 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: not really sure now | 19:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i was thinking this will be fairly contained | 19:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i might be wrong | 19:04 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: will have that evaluated | 19:04 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: yes will only plan for that if it is really required | 19:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | since we already do router-specific processing | 19:05 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: yes in the best case - it could be only some changes with the agent messaging | 19:05 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: and the main changes are really on the db side of things to track routers | 19:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i can pitch in with that if you need help on that side (and we are breaking the patches) | 19:06 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: will have this scoped out and will run it by u | 19:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | breaking -> splitting | 19:06 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: yes definitely thanks | 19:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | but we need to be aggessive in pursuing it here on, since we need to give enough time before the k2 deadline for reviews | 19:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: thanks | 19:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Service Objects | 19:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Service Objects (Meeting topic: Networking FWaaS)" | 19:08 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: hi | 19:08 |
| badveli | yes sumit | 19:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | anything we need to discuss on this front? | 19:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | have the code patches been posted? | 19:08 |
| badveli | no not yet, with the new infra should i wait? | 19:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: new infra? | 19:10 |
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| badveli | i might need to see if the service groups used by firewall rule need to wait | 19:10 |
| badveli | what should i do should i get in the service groups and the objects code review | 19:12 |
| glebo | during spec review, when Doug W orginally put a -1 on the service objects spec, I contacted him and we had a good talk about it | 19:12 |
| glebo | his issue was: | 19:12 |
| glebo | he didn't want them to be FWaaS specific, but instead | 19:12 |
| glebo | wanted them to be able to be generically used across all modules | 19:13 |
| glebo | and I agreed | 19:13 |
| glebo | he wasn't sure if the current spec got us there or not | 19:13 |
| SumitNaiksatam | glebo: okay | 19:14 |
| glebo | I assured him that was the intention, but I myself am a bit unclear how this intersects architecturally with GBP objects, or congress-based objects, for that matter | 19:14 |
| glebo | when he sensed that we at least understood the importance of the architectural fit question, | 19:14 |
| glebo | he then approved, | 19:14 |
| glebo | but I'm not sure we've really *addressed* it correctly yet. | 19:15 |
| glebo | vishnu and I could use a bit of insight / perspective from the team here | 19:15 |
| * glebo wonders if any of this is making sense? | 19:15 | |
| SridarK | glebo: i always thought that this will be made avail to Sec Groups or any other feature but this patch will only address FWaaS | 19:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | the service groups/objects proposal was targeted to address, what i understood, was an immediate need for fwaas | 19:17 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | hence the proposal targeted grouping firewall rules | 19:17 |
| badveli | sumit i had a tough time in the review, as per my understanding this was approved because the sec groups could use it | 19:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | it was anticipated that over time, with experience from using service objects in FWaaS, the definition could be extended | 19:18 |
| glebo | I think that's where reviewers are choking: they'd rather see a more generic object model, where the service / service group can be called by any other OpenStack module, not just AdvServices, and not just Neutron. | 19:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | glebo: i would imagine that would be a new spec then | 19:19 |
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| glebo | That makes rational sense to me to, but I'm not sure about scope and timing | 19:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | glebo: since i would like to understand what the expectations of that “other OpenStack module” is | 19:19 |
| glebo | SumitNaiksatam: could be QoS, could be monitoring, could be service chaining rule, could be…. you get the point. | 19:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | glebo: well but we need to spec that | 19:20 |
| glebo | time running short… | 19:21 |
| glebo | here, in this mtg, I mean, | 19:21 |
| glebo | could we have a call or move to FW room after meeting to try to get our collective heads around this? | 19:21 |
| glebo | I just don't want the actual code commits to be blocked again | 19:22 |
| glebo | by neutron reviewers | 19:22 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | glebo: my concern as well | 19:22 |
| glebo | and I want to do the *right* thing for the OS community too, of course | 19:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | glebo: i guess we are all trying to do the right thing for the community :-) | 19:23 |
| glebo | SumitNaiksatam: sure ;-) | 19:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Open Discussion | 19:24 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | we can continue the same discussion, but just wanted to open it up in case there is something else anyone wants to bring up | 19:25 |
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| glebo | SumitNaiksatam: ummm, how will we proceed on last topic? How about a call today at 1pm pst? If that works, I can send out conf details | 19:25 |
| glebo | takers? | 19:26 |
| SridarK | Vendor implementations with dependencies on neutron vendor implementation which will in a separate repo - is something we are breaking our heads on | 19:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | glebo: unfortunately i have a conflict today | 19:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: ah good point | 19:26 |
| SridarK | vishwanathj: this is something for u as well | 19:26 |
| glebo | immediately following this then? | 19:26 |
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| SridarK | glebo: sorry today is bad for me | 19:27 |
| vishwanathj | SridarK, what is the dependency on neutron vendor implementation? | 19:27 |
| vishwanathj | sorry, I did not get that | 19:27 |
| glebo | SridarK: SumitNaiksatam: ack. I'll propose another day / time over email / ML. | 19:27 |
| SridarK | vishwanathj: the fact that ur router implementation will not be in neutron anymore | 19:27 |
| vishwanathj | oh ok, I get it | 19:28 |
| SridarK | or rather will not be in neutron | 19:28 |
| SridarK | and we need to see how we manage that with a vendor repo etc | 19:28 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: so this is logistics issues, but from a run-time perspective, it will be very similar to how it currently does, right? | 19:29 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: yes exactly | 19:29 |
| SridarK | and maybe something that we can look for common approaches across the vendor community as well | 19:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: okay so another topic for discussion on the coming tuesday ;-) | 19:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | alrighty, we have hit our time | 19:30 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: yes :-) | 19:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | thanks all for joining! | 19:30 |
| SridarK | thanks | 19:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #endmeeting | 19:30 |
| SridarK | bye all | 19:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 19:30 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 7 19:30:27 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:30 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2015/networking_fwaas.2015-01-07-18.30.html | 19:30 |
| badveli | bye all | 19:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bye all | 19:30 |
| glebo | cheers | 19:30 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2015/networking_fwaas.2015-01-07-18.30.txt | 19:30 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2015/networking_fwaas.2015-01-07-18.30.log.html | 19:30 |
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| alaski | #startmeeting nova_cells | 22:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 7 22:00:12 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alaski. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova_cells)" | 22:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_cells' | 22:00 |
| alaski | Anybody here for the cells meeting? | 22:00 |
| bauzas | \o aloha | 22:00 |
| belmoreira | hi | 22:00 |
| alaski | hi | 22:01 |
| melwitt | o/ | 22:01 |
| alaski | cool, let's get started | 22:01 |
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| alaski | I will admit up front that I'm a bit disorganized after the break | 22:01 |
| alaski | still catching up on a lot of stuff | 22:01 |
| bauzas | eh | 22:01 |
| melwitt | join the club :P | 22:02 |
| belmoreira | :) | 22:02 |
| alaski | :) | 22:02 |
| alaski | #topic testing | 22:02 |
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| alaski | so it appears that we're up to about 70 failures on the cells job now | 22:02 |
| alaski | it was at around 40 before the break | 22:03 |
| bauzas | ergh | 22:03 |
| alaski | I'm not sure what tests are failing now yet | 22:03 |
| alaski | it's possible that we'll just want to skip them | 22:03 |
| * edleafe arriving late | 22:03 | |
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| alaski | but this does make me want to get this job voting asap | 22:04 |
| alaski | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-cells-testing | 22:04 |
| alaski | so as always, any help here is appreciated | 22:04 |
| bauzas | can we maybe provide a non-voting job first ? | 22:04 |
| bauzas | because atm, it's only experimental pipeline right ? | 22:04 |
| alaski | bauzas: we have one, but it is in experimental | 22:04 |
| alaski | right | 22:04 |
| alaski | moving that to the check queue might be a good step | 22:05 |
| bauzas | alaski: yeah, that's why I thought we should maybe put a non-voting in the check pipeline | 22:05 |
| bauzas | alaski: in there, just skip the failing ones | 22:05 |
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| alaski | I like that | 22:05 |
| bauzas | alaski: and leave the full testing in experimental | 22:05 |
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| bauzas | alaski: so at least we would make sure we wouldn't regress | 22:06 |
| alaski | yeah | 22:06 |
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| alaski | bauzas: would you like to look into that? | 22:06 |
| bauzas | alaski: sure | 22:06 |
| alaski | cool | 22:07 |
| bauzas | alaski: just lemme find how to get 25 hours for a day but I'm fine eh ;) | 22:07 |
| alaski | #action bauzas look into getting a cells tempest job into check pipeline | 22:07 |
| alaski | bauzas: heh. I'm happy to help with that too | 22:07 |
| bauzas | alaski: lol, I guess we all are kinda busy | 22:07 |
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| alaski | anything else on testing? | 22:08 |
| bauzas | that's life, go ahead | 22:08 |
| alaski | #topic table analysis | 22:08 |
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| alaski | I was supposed to put up a review to get the uncontroversial tables into the devref | 22:08 |
| alaski | I have not | 22:09 |
| bauzas | lol | 22:09 |
| alaski | but I will propose that tomorrow | 22:09 |
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| belmoreira | well... is not really the tables that are controversial | 22:10 |
| belmoreira | there are questions like the scheduler, aggregates, nova-network that we need to discuss | 22:10 |
| alaski | agreed | 22:11 |
| belmoreira | maybe having a meeting to discuss these points would be a good start | 22:11 |
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| alaski | I think it will be helpful to have some things that are more concrete so we have a common understanding | 22:11 |
| alaski | but we definitely need to discuss those larger topics soon | 22:11 |
| bauzas | belmoreira: +1 | 22:12 |
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| alaski | should we plan to devote these meetings to a particular topic each week for a bit? | 22:12 |
| bauzas | we could discuss that during midcycle but I'm not sure that everyone can attend | 22:13 |
| belmoreira | alaski: I think is a good idea | 22:13 |
| belmoreira | bauzas: I will not be in the midcycle | 22:14 |
| bauzas | belmoreira: ack | 22:14 |
| alaski | belmoreira: okay. we'll pick a topic to focus on each week | 22:14 |
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| bauzas | belmoreira: we did something last midcycle about a remote participation for the sched, maybe we could do this too ? | 22:14 |
| belmoreira | bauzas: that would be great | 22:15 |
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| alaski | Everyone okay with starting with scheduling next week? | 22:16 |
| bauzas | +1 | 22:16 |
| belmoreira | alaski: +1 | 22:16 |
| edleafe | +1 | 22:16 |
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| alaski | cool | 22:16 |
| alaski | #action alaski clear out next weeks agenda to discuss scheduling | 22:17 |
| alaski | which leads nicely into the next topic | 22:17 |
| alaski | #topic cells scheduling | 22:17 |
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| alaski | mainly I want to point out https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141486/ | 22:17 |
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| alaski | I am going to update it as soon as I can, and we can use that to work towards next weeks discussion | 22:18 |
| bauzas | cool | 22:18 |
| belmoreira | great | 22:19 |
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| alaski | #topic open discussion | 22:19 |
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| alaski | Anyone have anything to discuss? | 22:19 |
| bauzas | alaski: now that the first BP has been merged, do you plan to provide the change also ? | 22:20 |
| bauzas | I mean soon | 22:20 |
| bauzas | and by soon, I mean k2 | 22:21 |
| alaski | I would like to work on those soon, but I haven't written any code yet | 22:21 |
| bauzas | alaski: ok | 22:21 |
| alaski | and I'm happy to share if others are interested in getting involved | 22:21 |
| bauzas | alaski: also, I won't explain to a core that you will need to ask for an exception for all the missing specs :) | 22:21 |
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| alaski | bauzas: :) | 22:22 |
| alaski | I'm not sure that I want an exception for them honestly | 22:22 |
| alaski | I don't want to rush things here | 22:22 |
| alaski | but I also don't want work to get held up | 22:22 |
| bauzas | alaski: yeah makes sense | 22:22 |
| alaski | so I'm considering looking at a feature branch to use for prototyping | 22:23 |
| alaski | but I don't know what all is involved with that | 22:23 |
| bauzas | alaski: warning, big question : do you plan a stackforge fork ? | 22:23 |
| alaski | I am not planning a fork | 22:23 |
| bauzas | alaski: oh by branching you mean a Gerrit change | 22:24 |
| belmoreira | the second BP is also approved | 22:24 |
| bauzas | series | 22:24 |
| alaski | bauzas: that would be one way, but I think we can actually have a separate branch to merge to | 22:24 |
| bauzas | by branching, I was thinking about git branch... | 22:24 |
| alaski | bauzas: right | 22:25 |
| bauzas | alaski: orly? | 22:25 |
| alaski | bauzas: I don't know any details, but I've heard it discussed before | 22:25 |
| alaski | I want to get some details before proposing anything | 22:25 |
| * bauzas needs to think about the bribe amount | 22:25 | |
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| bauzas | well, I was stupidely thinking that branches were duties for the Project Manager | 22:26 |
| bauzas | hence the stackforge iterations | 22:26 |
| alaski | this only matters though if we finish the two approved blueprints with plenty of time left in the cycle | 22:26 |
| bauzas | hence Gantt and all the other tiny ugly projects | 22:26 |
| bauzas | right | 22:27 |
| bauzas | k, sounds a good approach then, to be discussed later then | 22:27 |
| alaski | cool. let's get some code merged first :) | 22:27 |
| belmoreira | alaski: about getting involved in the implementation I'm interested. Or at least I can point someone. | 22:28 |
| alaski | belmoreira: excellent | 22:28 |
| belmoreira | alaski: let's discuss later | 22:28 |
| alaski | belmoreira: sounds good | 22:28 |
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| alaski | anything else for open discussion? | 22:29 |
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| bauzas | crickets | 22:29 |
| alaski | closing up early then | 22:29 |
| alaski | Thanks everyone! | 22:29 |
| alaski | #endmeeting | 22:29 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 7 22:29:57 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:29 |
| bauzas | thanks alaski | 22:29 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2015/nova_cells.2015-01-07-22.00.html | 22:30 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2015/nova_cells.2015-01-07-22.00.txt | 22:30 |
| belmoreira | thanks | 22:30 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2015/nova_cells.2015-01-07-22.00.log.html | 22:30 |
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