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| david-ly_ | #startmeeting Horizon | 16:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 23 16:01:10 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is david-ly_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Horizon)" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 16:01 |
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| jrist | o/ | 16:01 |
| ericpeterson | yo | 16:01 |
| crobertsrh | Hello/ | 16:01 |
| jgravel | hi | 16:01 |
| gary-smith_ | hello | 16:01 |
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| clu_ | hi! | 16:01 |
| doug-fish | Greetings. | 16:01 |
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| amotoki | hi | 16:01 |
| pawelss | Hi | 16:02 |
| akrivoka | hello | 16:02 |
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| jomara_ | hi | 16:02 |
| akrivoka | \o | 16:02 |
| tmazur | o/ | 16:02 |
| absubram_ | hi | 16:02 |
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| johnma | hello | 16:03 |
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| gugl2 | hi | 16:03 |
| david-ly_ | I wanted to start by discussing RC1 | 16:03 |
| david-ly_ | https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/juno-rc1 | 16:04 |
| david-ly_ | I've been cleaning up the list of items for RC1 | 16:04 |
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| rdopieralski | hi | 16:04 |
| david-ly_ | I still have a few more to prune | 16:04 |
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| david-ly_ | the idea is that we can't close RC1 until the remaining list are merged | 16:04 |
| david-ly_ | other bugs can merge opportunistically, but don't need to be assigned to RC1 | 16:05 |
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| david-ly_ | does anyone have info on https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1299517? | 16:05 |
| david-ly_ | I see no Horizon related work attached to that, i.e., no patches | 16:06 |
| david-ly_ | may punt that to K-1 unless anyone has a strong objection | 16:07 |
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| doug-fish | I'm kind of concerned about that | 16:07 |
| doug-fish | I got significant grief about the missing function | 16:07 |
| doug-fish | This should mostly be about restoring the code that once existed, right? | 16:08 |
| david-ly_ | doug-fish: it's an admin extension though, is it not? | 16:08 |
| doug-fish | maybe? | 16:08 |
| david-ly_ | doug-fish: I don't see a patch at this point | 16:08 |
| david-ly_ | I'll look more later today before punting it | 16:08 |
| doug-fish | What if I created one today? | 16:08 |
| david-ly_ | make it so :) | 16:09 |
| doug-fish | Maybe I'm being naive, but I think this is a simple matter of restoring the panel as it existed in Havana | 16:09 |
| ericpeterson | is this something you could test if the extension is avail, then disable as needed???? | 16:09 |
| david-ly_ | ericpeterson: there is now | 16:09 |
| amotoki | Isn't related to the default quota work? | 16:09 |
| doug-fish | ericpeterson: if that's how it worked in Havana, I'd be happy to do so | 16:09 |
| amotoki | I see jpich's comment https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1299517/comments/3 | 16:09 |
| david-ly_ | ok, doug-fish see where you get to | 16:11 |
| doug-fish | will do. Thanks! | 16:11 |
| doug-fish | (for the extra work) | 16:11 |
| doug-fish | :-) | 16:11 |
| david-ly_ | I'm not sure it's a release blocker, but I'll leave it for now | 16:11 |
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| david-ly_ | we started the day with 44, so we're looking better | 16:11 |
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| david-ly_ | I left two of the mediums because they are already approved and in the gate | 16:12 |
| david-ly_ | which seems to be suffering again | 16:12 |
| david-ly_ | rdopieralski: django-pyscss, just blocked on requirements FFE? | 16:12 |
| david-ly_ | correct? | 16:12 |
| david-ly_ | other than that I think the remainders are just a matter of reviews | 16:14 |
| gugl2 | david-ly_, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/121714/ was in rc-1, it is approved and waiting for passing the gate...but I saw you moved it to k-1, what does it mean? | 16:14 |
| david-ly_ | gugl2: just that I won't hold release of RC1 if it doesn't make it through the gate by the time we cut RC1 | 16:14 |
| david-ly_ | which I hope to be the end of the week | 16:15 |
| amotoki | david-ly_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1324634 can be deferred to Kilo. I don't see any negative impact so far. | 16:15 |
| gugl2 | david-ly_, thanks | 16:15 |
| david-ly_ | amotoki: ok done, we'll see if we can add it opportunistically | 16:15 |
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| amotoki | the exact behavior is a bit different but there is no case we hit actually. | 16:16 |
| david-ly_ | would be nice to have | 16:16 |
| david-ly_ | once we cut RC1, it will be on a branch and master will open for Kilo commits | 16:16 |
| amotoki | regarding yves's session timeout handling, I sent a mail of django-openstack-auth dependency FFE | 16:16 |
| amotoki | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-September/046799.html | 16:17 |
| amotoki | but the deadline is over last Friday and it is pending approval. | 16:17 |
| david-ly_ | amotoki: I saw, in the program meeting later today FFEs on requirements will be discussed | 16:17 |
| david-ly_ | we have two that should go through | 16:17 |
| amotoki | david-ly_: thanks please. | 16:17 |
| david-ly_ | and we'll open an RC2 for final translations | 16:18 |
| david-ly_ | and hopefully no critical bug fixes | 16:18 |
| rdopieralski | david-ly_: yes, sorry, I was distracted | 16:18 |
| david-ly_ | hopefully | 16:18 |
| david-ly_ | rdopieralski: no problem | 16:18 |
| david-ly_ | rdopieralski: the jquery bug is a nice to have at this point correct | 16:19 |
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| david-ly_ | not an essential | 16:19 |
| david-ly_ | ? | 16:19 |
| rdopieralski | david-ly_: yes | 16:19 |
| david-ly_ | ok, thanks! | 16:19 |
| rdopieralski | david-ly_: it will save packagers work | 16:19 |
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| david-ly_ | understood, there really shouldn't be a reason not to accept the FFE on it | 16:20 |
| david-ly_ | I'll see how we do later today | 16:20 |
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| david-ly_ | The agenda for today is https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Horizon | 16:21 |
| david-ly_ | #topic Future of table sorting/filtering/count/paging | 16:21 |
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| david-ly_ | clu_: is that you? | 16:21 |
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| clu_ | david-ly_: yes :) | 16:21 |
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| clu_ | not sure what the plan is anymore - since it seems like keystone v3 doesn't support any pagination, instead relies on filtering? | 16:22 |
| david-ly_ | clu_: I've made the proposal to look at controlling all the pagination, filtering, sorting, etc in Horizon | 16:23 |
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| david-ly_ | I need to back it with a BP and a prototype | 16:23 |
| clu_ | so do you think it's up to horizon to provide the complete solution? | 16:23 |
| clu_ | regardless of what the project api supports? | 16:23 |
| david-ly_ | I think we can't count on the various services to provide a consistent interface, so we need to own it | 16:23 |
| rbertram | david-ly: does that imply caching all the data, rather than getting it directly from services? | 16:24 |
| david-ly_ | rbertram: it means asking for more data from the services | 16:24 |
| david-ly_ | yes | 16:24 |
| asahlin | +1 to consistency | 16:24 |
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| clu_ | what about consistent filtering? | 16:25 |
| david-ly_ | so, briefly... | 16:25 |
| tqtran | that sounds like a great plan | 16:25 |
| amotoki | I think filtering works more compared to pagination. some projects sopport listing with filtering but some not. If avialable, using filter API sounds good to me. | 16:25 |
| clu_ | some projects only allow the "exact" match, others allow you to filter on "subset" | 16:25 |
| david-ly_ | I think Horizon needs to pull all data available to the user for a particular view, dynamically | 16:26 |
| david-ly_ | building the list | 16:26 |
| amotoki | david-ly_: without filtering? | 16:26 |
| tqtran | is it possible for horizon to have its own DB? or are we restrictly sticking to the cache only | 16:26 |
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| david-ly_ | from there all filtering is string based, js that we have now, but instead of just querying the onscreen, it queries off screen data as well | 16:27 |
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| clu_ | sounds powerful :) | 16:27 |
| ericpeterson | that seems like some changes would be needed, to get additional data from following pages | 16:27 |
| rbertram | david-ly_: will you keep the cache fresh via events? polling? Or let it grow stale? | 16:27 |
| david-ly_ | I think it's best to just write the proposal in BP form and have the discussion go there | 16:28 |
| amotoki | it makes sense to some extent. I wonder if it scale with thousands of resources... | 16:28 |
| david-ly_ | tqtran: db no | 16:28 |
| david-ly_ | we don't want to maintain that | 16:28 |
| tqtran | ok | 16:29 |
| lcheng | tqtran: maybe we can make the caching strategy configurable, using in-memory, file-based or database. | 16:29 |
| david-ly_ | amotoki: for admin type views I need to better determine some more basic filtering of the data before requesting everything | 16:29 |
| amotoki | agree | 16:29 |
| clu_ | the new blueprint process will definitely help out with figuring out the strategy :) | 16:30 |
| david-ly_ | but if we continue to thinly represent the API structure, we are never going to have a consistent UX | 16:30 |
| tqtran | lcheng: i like that idea, this way, if 3rd party decides to have their own filtering/caching implementation to ensure scaling they still can. and it would even allow future incubation projects | 16:30 |
| david-ly_ | and thus not be very effective | 16:30 |
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| rbertram | david-ly_: so for tables exceeding a certain length, user is asked to filter before all (any?) of it is loaded | 16:31 |
| david-ly_ | tqtran: lcheng: caching the topology of a large scale cloud is not really an effort I believe we want to take on | 16:31 |
| david-ly_ | rbertram: perhaps for users who have cross project visibility | 16:32 |
| doug-fish | caching every user known to a large company's LDAP server is probably not a good idea either. | 16:32 |
| amotoki | the topic is very related to openstacksdk/python client libary discussion. | 16:32 |
| jpomero | i'm confused why any caching would be involved | 16:32 |
| david-ly_ | I'm not advocating caching | 16:32 |
| david-ly_ | that's a fools errand | 16:32 |
| jpomero | right | 16:32 |
| rbertram | david-ly_: thinking about needing to refresh the data - at least in scenarios where a change is expected, like after adding a now instance. we poll now. | 16:32 |
| david-ly_ | these are API requests | 16:32 |
| ericpeterson | for almost every admin table, we should not be displaying all the data. instead we should first have the admin provide some type of filter, even if it's implicit | 16:32 |
| david-ly_ | we're just asking for more datat | 16:32 |
| david-ly_ | *data | 16:32 |
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| david-ly_ | ericpeterson: ++ | 16:32 |
| amotoki | ericpeterson: +1 | 16:34 |
| david-ly_ | #action: david-lyle files BP on new horizon data-model, filtering, pagination | 16:34 |
| ericpeterson | = 3 ;) | 16:34 |
| -amotoki- single +1000 has no meaning.... | 16:34 | |
| lcheng | david-ly_: if we don't have any caching at all, we need to fetch ALL the data every time as the user navigates through each page in the table ? | 16:34 |
| david-ly_ | lcheng: depends how the page flow is structured | 16:35 |
| david-ly_ | but each load of the main table yes | 16:35 |
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| david-ly_ | things like detail views shouldn't require a page load | 16:35 |
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| ericpeterson | also, if data requested via an ajax call, sometimes the browser can cache that and don't even bother the server | 16:36 |
| david-ly_ | we'd persist the page data as long as we could | 16:36 |
| tqtran | yes, but that single api call to fetch it all will cause a significant delay | 16:36 |
| david-ly_ | tqtran: there's typically an API result limit | 16:36 |
| david-ly_ | so we really need to paginate anyway | 16:37 |
| lcheng | david-ly_: the level of caching I am thinking is just within the scope of the page or request. But I think those are details can be figured out later as we hash out the design in the bp. | 16:37 |
| david-ly_ | lcheng: sure | 16:37 |
| david-ly_ | as long as we're not talking a session level cache | 16:37 |
| david-ly_ | I think we're talking in the same direction | 16:37 |
| jpomero | my experience has been that requesting lots of data is fairly quick, rendering is the bottleneck | 16:37 |
| david-ly_ | I'm going to move on for now, we'll discuss more when we have something more concrete | 16:38 |
| david-ly_ | #topic Clientside tables (ericpeterson, tqtran) | 16:39 |
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| ericpeterson | so.... a bit of background / update | 16:39 |
| ericpeterson | tqtran and I are on something like patch 54, in what is turning out to be a difficult patch | 16:39 |
| ericpeterson | what we are going to change to.... is to make 1 patch with some core horizon/* type fixes..... this will make it so you can have a ajax supported table | 16:40 |
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| ericpeterson | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94706/ (is the change I speak of) | 16:40 |
| ericpeterson | that patch, as it has been sitting, changed the instances table to be ajax/angular | 16:41 |
| ericpeterson | we are going to move to smaller changes | 16:41 |
| ericpeterson | I just didn't know how other people would view that | 16:41 |
| ericpeterson | (big patches are a pain to review, and to rebase) | 16:42 |
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| ericpeterson | and if we get to patch #100.... do we win a prize? like a free swift container??? | 16:42 |
| ericpeterson | ;) | 16:43 |
| doug-fish | yeah, I know you guys have done a ton of work on that. It has been difficult to keep up with reviewing it lately because its a monster. Big and lots of things to think about. | 16:43 |
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| david-ly_ | ericpeterson: I certainly think breaking up the patch makes it more manageable, my greater concern is if this patch goes far enough | 16:43 |
| doug-fish | breaking it up seems right to me | 16:43 |
| david-ly_ | re: our previous discussion | 16:43 |
| david-ly_ | it could be a decent interim step | 16:44 |
| david-ly_ | as I think the changes proposed above are a release cycle length change | 16:44 |
| david-ly_ | at least | 16:44 |
| ericpeterson | yep.... so tqtran and I will break this one into at least two changes, if not 3 | 16:45 |
| amotoki | I wonder how we can have good test coverage on a large JS patch. | 16:45 |
| tqtran | i will be including jasmine tests | 16:45 |
| pawelss | How many LOC is it? | 16:45 |
| ericpeterson | one will be common horiozn/* stuff..... one might be common openstack_dashboard/* stuff.... then like the instances page can depend upon these other two | 16:45 |
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| tqtran | right now, its already pretty big, once we split it, will be a bit more manageable | 16:45 |
| ericpeterson | +1003, -77 | 16:46 |
| ericpeterson | the other part is we fundamentally change the instances page, which is a big deal / risky | 16:46 |
| pawelss | That's something | 16:46 |
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| gugl2 | amotoki, I am just wondering the same...not only about the unit tests...how we can QA the big change | 16:48 |
| tqtran | how are we doing that today? | 16:48 |
| david-ly_ | so jumping ahead a bit, in the new bp template I've added a "Motivation" section, what's the problem is we're attempting to solve is. My question to you is what would be in that section for this patch? I have ideas, but would like to hear yours | 16:48 |
| david-ly_ | *what | 16:49 |
| tqtran | a few reasons: first, the move to angular is more scalable and would in the long run result in better performance | 16:49 |
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| tqtran | second, because we rely more on client and ajax requests, our web app will a lot more responsive | 16:50 |
| ericpeterson | also, having more data in the client can support a faster, richer experience.... right now the client only gets the columns being displayed | 16:50 |
| tqtran | right now, any action we take triggers a full page refresh, which is not really responsive, it feels clunky | 16:51 |
| ericpeterson | if you ship more of the row's data.... you can do stuff like hover over the row/cell and display a great deal of detailed info | 16:51 |
| tqtran | and third, it would also allow more client centric developers to contribute (w/o knowing too much python) | 16:52 |
| david-ly_ | tqtran, ericpeterson: I agree with those, I think it's essentially an enablement patch | 16:52 |
| ericpeterson | yep, js customization could be done with 0 knowledge of python, good point | 16:52 |
| david-ly_ | I think part of the hurdle to reviews may also be that none of that is in the BP | 16:53 |
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| ericpeterson | ack, good point on the bp lacking supporting materials | 16:53 |
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| david-ly_ | regardless, I think breaking up the review into logical pieces makes sense and will help drive greater feedback | 16:54 |
| ericpeterson | thanks all, we'll work in this direction :D | 16:54 |
| tqtran | =) | 16:55 |
| david-ly_ | #topic Continued discussion of potential changes to the blueprint process (david-lyle) | 16:55 |
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| david-ly_ | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/template | 16:55 |
| david-ly_ | is my pass at a template for new blueprints | 16:55 |
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| david-ly_ | is there any feedback on omissions or commissions? | 16:56 |
| doug-fish | how do you want us to share comments? (because I see we will be running out of time) | 16:56 |
| david-ly_ | doug-fish: let's just put them in the whiteboard of the template for now | 16:57 |
| doug-fish | sounds good! | 16:57 |
| david-ly_ | once finalized, we can either clean those up, or leave them as a record | 16:57 |
| david-ly_ | please take some time to provide feedback so we can start making proposals to Kilo | 16:58 |
| pawels | I am testing it now while writing new bp :) | 16:58 |
| david-ly_ | And I'll draft a wiki page as to the intended flow | 16:58 |
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| lcheng | david-ly_: Does "motivation" covers describing the actors/users of the panel/bp? | 16:59 |
| david-ly_ | #action david-lyle draft a wiki page as to the intended bp flow | 16:59 |
| rbertram | pawels: +1 I think seeing some real bps using the template is important | 16:59 |
| david-ly_ | lcheng: I meant it more as to why should we do this, or what are we trying to solve | 16:59 |
| absubram_ | david-ly_ : Off topic sorry - I know this is a low priority vendor specific bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1260435 You just pushed it out of RC1.. but it had 2 core approvers y'day.. until it got yanked because of the gate issue.. can we please still get this into RC1, if the cores give back the +2s? :p | 16:59 |
| david-ly_ | I think actors/users should go in UX | 17:00 |
| david-ly_ | I'll update the comments | 17:00 |
| lcheng | david-ly_: sounds good | 17:00 |
| amotoki | absubram_: as david-ly_ said, RC1 bug list is to check what are release-critical bugs. | 17:00 |
| tqtran | david-ly: i like the template, its a lot more informative than it is now lol | 17:00 |
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| david-ly_ | absubram_: bug fixes can continue land until RC1 even if not in the list | 17:00 |
| absubram_ | amotoki: oh ok! thanks.. got it | 17:00 |
| david-ly_ | but I won't block RC1 on items not in the list | 17:00 |
| david-ly_ | and time | 17:01 |
| absubram_ | david-ly_: ty | 17:01 |
| david-ly_ | Thanks everyone, have a great week! | 17:01 |
| david-ly_ | #endmeeting | 17:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 23 17:01:15 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:01 |
| lcheng | thanks! | 17:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2014/horizon.2014-09-23-16.01.html | 17:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2014/horizon.2014-09-23-16.01.txt | 17:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2014/horizon.2014-09-23-16.01.log.html | 17:01 |
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| pballand | #startmeeting CongressTeamMeeting | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 23 17:01:47 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is pballand. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'congressteammeeting' | 17:01 |
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| pballand | howdy | 17:01 |
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| banix | hi | 17:02 |
| jchen_ | hello | 17:02 |
| sarob | hallo | 17:02 |
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| dconde | hello | 17:02 |
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| pballand | want to start with a summary of the policy summit last week | 17:03 |
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| pballand | for those lurking or reading the logs, we had over 50 attendees last week in Palo Alto | 17:04 |
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| pballand | we had some great presentations from projects on their policy related features and roadmaps, and and excellent workshop day | 17:04 |
| sarob | was awesome display of collaboration | 17:04 |
| pballand | thanks again for all who participated! | 17:05 |
| jchen_ | thx for hosting the summit! | 17:05 |
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| dconde | also, thanks for the guest speaker(s) andl lightening talk | 17:05 |
| pballand | notes from the summit can be found here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-midcycle-policy-summit | 17:05 |
| pballand | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-midcycle-policy-summit | 17:05 |
| sarob | lots of new work and ideas to get ready for the kilo summit | 17:06 |
| pballand | for those who had to leave early, we finished day two by creating a list of action items with owners - can be seen at the bottom of the etherpad linked above | 17:06 |
| pballand | if there are items we missed, or you would like to participate in one of the items on the list, please add your name to the list, or participate in the spec creation | 17:07 |
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| s3wong | pballand: are the blueprints filed for those items? | 17:08 |
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| pballand | s3wong: the owner of each item is responsible for creating the bp | 17:08 |
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| pballand | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Congress#How_To_Create_a_Blueprint | 17:09 |
| pballand | instructions for creating a blueprint / spec can be found on the wiki link above | 17:10 |
| pballand | I’m looking forward to seeing those come in | 17:10 |
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| pballand | lets go through a quick status update | 17:10 |
| pballand | who would like to go first? | 17:11 |
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| pballand | not all at the same time :) | 17:11 |
| alexsyip | I’m working on generalizing the data source drivers | 17:11 |
| dconde | you’re asking the BP owners? | 17:11 |
| alexsyip | And I will create a few bps for the table triggers | 17:12 |
| pballand | alexsyip: great - can you give a guess on when you may be able to post a draft on the spec? | 17:12 |
| sarob | im going through the specs i signed on to help straz with | 17:13 |
| pballand | dconde: yes, bp owners, or any work in progress | 17:13 |
| alexsyip | For the drivers, I already pushed a spec to gerrit. | 17:13 |
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| alexsyip | For the triggers, I will work on that today. | 17:13 |
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| pballand | alexsyip: I assume you mean https://blueprints.launchpad.net/congress/+spec/refactor-drivers | 17:15 |
| pballand | is there a spec this can link to? | 17:15 |
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| alexsyip | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123288/ | 17:16 |
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| pballand | alexsyip: thanks - will review | 17:17 |
| alexsyip | thanks. | 17:17 |
| pballand | process question (maybe sarob knows?) how can blueprints be linked to specs that are still in review? | 17:17 |
| rajdeep | alexsyip: i dont think we have a keystone driver yet , | 17:18 |
| sarob | The way i set it up was to have the new spec | 17:18 |
| rajdeep | you mention rewriting it | 17:18 |
| sarob | and blueprint linked together | 17:18 |
| alexsyip | The keystone driver is in code review. | 17:18 |
| rajdeep | ok | 17:18 |
| sarob | but the blueprint doesnt get approved until after the spec gets merged | 17:18 |
| banix | i think i saw a driver for keystone | 17:19 |
| banix | ahh yes in review | 17:19 |
| pballand | does it make sense to set the url in the blueprint to the review until the spec is merged, then update it? | 17:19 |
| sarob | the current patch is linked to the blueprint and vice verses | 17:19 |
| sarob | yup | 17:19 |
| sarob | that way if you find the spec or the bp, you will find the other | 17:20 |
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| alexsyip | For the driver blueprint, there is no link to the spec code review. Am I supposed to add the link manually ? | 17:20 |
| sarob | yup, manually | 17:20 |
| alexsyip | oh ok. I’ll add the link now. | 17:21 |
| pballand | alexsyip: I just updated it | 17:21 |
| pballand | alexsyip: it also looks like you own the keystone driver - can you update the status on that? | 17:21 |
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| arosen | sorry lost track of time X.x | 17:22 |
| alexsyip | Hm. not sure how yet. | 17:23 |
| pballand | alexsyip: was just asking if you were actively working on that patch | 17:23 |
| pballand | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122271/ | 17:24 |
| alexsyip | I am waiting for a second round of code review. | 17:24 |
| sarob | alexsyip: the extra step you asked about, i just added to the how to create a blueprint instructions | 17:24 |
| arosen | alexsyip: Most of the times jenkins has to pass before people will look at the review fyi . | 17:24 |
| pballand | anyone else with a status update? | 17:27 |
| LouisF | browsing the congress code | 17:27 |
| rajdeep | i started looking at the horizon code | 17:27 |
| alexsyip | Ok, I see that now. | 17:28 |
| rajdeep | for congress dashboard | 17:28 |
| arosen | I've been still turning away at the CI stuff. Hopefully I should be able to get a test tempest tests working with congress sometime this weel. | 17:28 |
| rajdeep | figuring out the code which janet shared | 17:28 |
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| pballand | rajdeep: can you please create a bp for congress-dashboard? | 17:28 |
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| rajdeep | sure.. was facing some issues with janet's code | 17:29 |
| madhumohan | I am working on adapting ceilometer driver to new interfaces as per comments from Tim... and also on the test code. | 17:29 |
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| kudva | Hi kudva | 17:31 |
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| pballand | madhumohan: great - do you have everything you need / any blockers? | 17:32 |
| madhumohan | going well so far... found one issue while testing with a simple ceilometer based policy --- "Unknown arity for table "ceilometer:meters"" .. Not very sure of how to correct this... | 17:34 |
| kudva | madhumohan: is this error coming from your python code accessing ceilometer api (sorry, I missed part of this discussion) | 17:36 |
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| kudva | ignore last comment. looks like this i part of tables discussion. Sorry | 17:36 |
| pballand | madhumohan: I don’t know the issue offhand - probably best to ask in #congress | 17:37 |
| pballand | #topic Open Discussion | 17:38 |
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| pballand | any questions / topics / concerns to discuss? | 17:39 |
| kudva | I have pushed some code, will wait for review | 17:39 |
| kudva | https://review.openstack.org/121418 | 17:39 |
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| pballand | kudva: great - will take a look | 17:40 |
| kudva | pballand: ok | 17:40 |
| kudva | pballand: thanks | 17:40 |
| pballand | is it clear to everyone how to propose blueprints and write specs? | 17:42 |
| pballand | (and what the value of doing so is?) | 17:42 |
| sarob | is to me ;) | 17:42 |
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| pballand | sarob: :-) | 17:42 |
| sarob | i think our mentoring teams we broke up into on friday will help with explaining how the process works | 17:43 |
| pballand | the goal is to add substantial visibility to the project, with minimal overhead to devs | 17:43 |
| sarob | im planning on setting a public schedule for working with straz, so others can join in on how to write specs | 17:44 |
| pballand | please reach out if you are frustrated/annoyed with the process - this should only take a couple minutes, and helps everyone understand what is being worked on | 17:44 |
| sarob | maybe that can help | 17:44 |
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| pballand | okay, I think that’s it this week | 17:46 |
| pballand | thanks for joining the conversation | 17:46 |
| pballand | we’ll see you on the mailing list and in #congress | 17:46 |
| pballand | #endmeeting | 17:47 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 23 17:47:07 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:47 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2014/congressteammeeting.2014-09-23-17.01.html | 17:47 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2014/congressteammeeting.2014-09-23-17.01.txt | 17:47 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2014/congressteammeeting.2014-09-23-17.01.log.html | 17:47 |
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| briancurtin | #startmeeting python-openstacksdk | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 23 19:00:23 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is briancurtin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'python_openstacksdk' | 19:00 |
| terrylhowe | Terry Howe, HP | 19:00 |
| briancurtin | Brian Curtin, Rackspace | 19:00 |
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| briancurtin | terrylhowe: maybe it's just you and i then. steve's on another team and i think he's off on some ansible/ops-ish type stuff at the moment | 19:03 |
| terrylhowe | ahh | 19:03 |
| briancurtin | anyway, the preparation change looks fine to me, will push taht through after one more look. just made a comment a bit ago that i ended up finding the answer when i read the stevedore reviw | 19:04 |
| dhellmann | o/ | 19:04 |
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| terrylhowe | I wish Jamie was around to look at the auth stuff, but I’m willing to change that if he has issues | 19:07 |
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| terrylhowe | If he wanted to have some compatiblity with the old way, I think I could do something | 19:08 |
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| briancurtin | terrylhowe: which compatibility part are you referring to? | 19:09 |
| terrylhowe | well, previously there was a Token and Password Auth and I combined the two and it uses Token auth now if you provide a token and goes back to password auth if your token is expired | 19:10 |
| terrylhowe | previously, the application would have to handle that situation, now the plugin handles it | 19:11 |
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| briancurtin | i think handling that is good i'd roll with it, but defer to jamie whenever he gets back | 19:15 |
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| terrylhowe | well, if he hates it I’ll do something is my point, I’d sooner not wait the 4 weeks | 19:16 |
| briancurtin | exactly. i used defer incorrectly...let's move on, but if he hates it we can come back to it | 19:16 |
| terrylhowe | thanks | 19:17 |
| terrylhowe | are there others reviews you wanted to chat about briancurtin ? the stevedore stuff maybe since dhellmann is here? | 19:18 |
| briancurtin | dhellmann: have you had a chance to look at any of these plugin changes? i'm not very familiar with stevedore to know what all it gives us, if we're using it right, should we be using it, those types of things | 19:21 |
| dhellmann | briancurtin: I haven't, but will definitely look | 19:23 |
| briancurtin | i havent thought a ton about plugin loading yet, but it looks straightforward enough in the change | 19:23 |
| * dhellmann adds review sdk to todos for this week | 19:23 | |
| dhellmann | stevedore is really a set of wrappers around pkg_resources for loading setuptools entry points using patterns instead of reproducing them in your app | 19:24 |
| briancurtin | dhellmann: here's where stevedore comes in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119628/ (there's a few deps on/needed from there) | 19:24 |
| dhellmann | briancurtin: ok, I'll try to look at that series this week | 19:24 |
| briancurtin | cool, thanks | 19:25 |
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| dhellmann | it looks like terrylhowe took my earlier comments on that one into account and we're using a single namespace now | 19:26 |
| terrylhowe | yep dhellmann | 19:26 |
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| briancurtin | terrylhowe: outside of dhellmann's eventual thoughts on stevedore, nothing really stands out for right now, and i should be caught up on review soon. mixing it in between this on-boarding stuff i'm walking the new guy through | 19:36 |
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| terrylhowe | cool briancurtin I have some review catching up to do too, if I submit any more changes they’ll just be simple ones | 19:38 |
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| briancurtin | since im on vacation most of the time before the next meeting, i think reviews are about all i'll be able to contribute. next tuesday i'll get going on how versioning might look in the high level | 19:40 |
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| briancurtin | #endmeetingi | 19:49 |
| briancurtin | #endmeeting | 19:49 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 23 19:49:35 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:49 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/python_openstacksdk/2014/python_openstacksdk.2014-09-23-19.00.html | 19:49 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/python_openstacksdk/2014/python_openstacksdk.2014-09-23-19.00.txt | 19:49 |
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