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thomasem | o/ | 15:01 |
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s1rp_ | still doing the libvirt meeting today? | 15:03 |
thomasem | no idear | 15:03 |
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david-lyle | anyone care to chat about Horizon? | 16:00 |
jpich | :-) | 16:00 |
tmazur | :) | 16:00 |
david-lyle | #startmeeting Horizon | 16:00 |
jrist | o/ | 16:00 |
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openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 24 16:00:31 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is david-lyle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 16:00 |
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jrist | wb, david-lyle | 16:00 |
akrivoka | hi everyone | 16:00 |
akrivoka | \o | 16:00 |
david-lyle | Hello everyone! | 16:00 |
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santib | hi guys | 16:00 |
tmazur | o/ | 16:00 |
jgravel | hi | 16:00 |
gary-smith | Hi and welcome back | 16:01 |
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crobertsrh | hello | 16:01 |
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Kadence | hello | 16:01 |
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doug-fish | hi all | 16:01 |
jomara | ahoy | 16:01 |
rdopieralski | hi | 16:01 |
tzumainn | hiya | 16:01 |
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lblanchard | hi all | 16:01 |
david-lyle | After a protracted absence I came back in time to break the openstack gate for the better part of the day on Sat, so I can literally say you were better off without me | 16:01 |
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akrivoka | lol :) | 16:01 |
rdopieralski | we missed you :) | 16:01 |
david-lyle | On the plus side, you can now log into Horizon on devstack again | 16:02 |
jrist | vn | 16:02 |
david-lyle | not much on the formal agenda today | 16:02 |
* doug-fish will picture jomara as a pirate from now on | 16:02 | |
jomara | doug-fish: thank you, i am | 16:02 |
doug-fish | :-) | 16:03 |
david-lyle | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Horizon | 16:03 |
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david-lyle | #topic Juno-2 status | 16:03 |
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david-lyle | #link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/juno-2 | 16:03 |
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david-lyle | For having so many blueprints slated for J-2 we are actually in good shape | 16:04 |
david-lyle | there are a few items that have a status of Not Started, if that's not true please update | 16:04 |
david-lyle | also a couple of items without owners, if these are yours and you're working on them please assign yourself | 16:05 |
david-lyle | book-keeping makes me happy | 16:05 |
jpich | or ask a "driver" to assign you | 16:05 |
david-lyle | yes | 16:05 |
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david-lyle | There are several bps that have been added that don't have a priority yet. I will look at those shortly, or any core is more than welcome to approve, prioritize bps | 16:06 |
jrist | rdopieralski: were you on this? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/configurable-plugin-config-location | 16:06 |
lsmola__ | hello | 16:06 |
rdopieralski | jrist: nope | 16:07 |
jpich | david-lyle: There were some concerns/questions last week as to whether cores are allowed to approve BPs or if it's only under the remit of the PTL (I think the former, very strongly to avoid overloading the PTL role but better clarify now!) | 16:07 |
rdopieralski | jrist: but it will become irrelevant if we switch to ini files | 16:07 |
rdopieralski | jrist: or maybe not | 16:07 |
david-lyle | Reading back, that question came up when I was gone. My stance is that any core can prioritize/schedule/approve bps, just leave a note if you are moving it to a milestone other than the one it's currently assigned to | 16:08 |
david-lyle | same for bugs | 16:08 |
rdopieralski | is there a description of the blueprint workflow somewhere? | 16:08 |
david-lyle | if we wait on me, we may be waiting for some time | 16:08 |
rdopieralski | I'm not sure what the different statuses mean, for example | 16:08 |
david-lyle | rdopieralski: I think there may be a general one for openstack | 16:09 |
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rdopieralski | What's the difference between status:approved and direction:approved? | 16:09 |
david-lyle | for Horizon the process I inherited, which we may revisit at a later date is fairly loose | 16:09 |
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jpich | david-lyle: Makes sense to me, thanks | 16:10 |
jpich | rdopieralski: http://wiki.openstack.org/Blueprints | 16:10 |
david-lyle | fields we really care about: Status, Milestone-target, Series goal, Approver, Implementation and Assignee | 16:10 |
rdopieralski | jpich: awesome, thanks, now I feel silly | 16:10 |
jpich | :P | 16:10 |
david-lyle | if a bp is a point of discussion, the direction should be drafting or discussion | 16:10 |
jpich | Some of these fields we don't use much | 16:10 |
david-lyle | So the only concern with all cores prioritizing/scheduling bps, make sure we're not approving conflicting work :) | 16:12 |
jpich | yeah, it's difficult to keep track of bps | 16:12 |
nlahouti | how about definition:drafting | 16:12 |
david-lyle | so keep up with the scheduled bps | 16:12 |
david-lyle | oops, before when I said direction drafting, I meant definition: drafting | 16:13 |
david-lyle | nlahouti: your bp is approved but waiting on neutron changes | 16:13 |
david-lyle | consider it approved even if it doesn't indicate, I will update | 16:14 |
david-lyle | I think another question while I was gone re: bps was a specs repo | 16:15 |
nlahouti | david-lyle: thx david. I didn't see in the bp. | 16:15 |
david-lyle | nlahouti: may not be done yet, mentally done on my side :) | 16:15 |
jrist | david-lyle: yeah, I replied to akrivoka but wasn't sure how it'd work | 16:15 |
jrist | re: specs | 16:15 |
nlahouti | david-lyle: :) thx a lot. | 16:15 |
david-lyle | personally I think we could use one for ux designs, beyond that I'm not sure | 16:16 |
jpich | david-lyle: Indeed, your input on the thread would be appreciated ( http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-June/037290.html ) | 16:16 |
jpich | It does seem heavyweight when we're often adding simple support for existing API | 16:16 |
jpich | I think the UX team are trying to determine what's the best place/tool/location for them to store designs at the moment | 16:17 |
david-lyle | we don't publish an API and for the majority of changes we don't have a formal design until the code is up for review | 16:17 |
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jpich | I guess the question would be, should we change that and formally review blueprints earlier? | 16:17 |
david-lyle | I'm happy to revisit, and I get the feeling it may be a requirement for the K cycle for all of openstack | 16:18 |
jpich | Considering we're having difficulties keeping up with reviews | 16:18 |
akrivoka | I think some more complex features would benefit from a design discussion prior to putting the code up for review | 16:18 |
david-lyle | akrivoka: absolutely, and that's happened in various forums over time | 16:18 |
akrivoka | it certainly should not be mandatory for every bp, IMO | 16:18 |
david-lyle | a specs repo would make sense for that | 16:19 |
david-lyle | We would definitely benefit from a stricter bp process | 16:20 |
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david-lyle | I think that's something we need to target for K | 16:20 |
akrivoka | david-lyle: makes sense | 16:21 |
david-lyle | at this point the list of bps is fairly set for J and we just need to follow through on them | 16:21 |
david-lyle | #action: david-lyle better formalize the bp process prior to K, be it specs or other | 16:22 |
david-lyle | #topic Sahara | 16:23 |
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crobertsrh | :) | 16:23 |
crobertsrh | It looks like we gained some momentum on reviews last week with mrunge and Tatiana lending some core reviews. This is 1 of 5 j2 high priority blueprints, so hopefully we will build on that this week. Ideally, the merge can be completed soon since there is additional work that we would like to get in for the Juno release and we'd like to be able to give plenty of time for those reviews as well. | 16:23 |
crobertsrh | Also, I updated the Sahara patches to no longer require the "enabled/*" files. As a part of that, I uncovered a couple bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1333739 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1329050 . I haven't really had a chance to look closely at them yet, so if anyone cares to jump in, please go for it. | 16:23 |
david-lyle | I'm currently setting up my devstack to work with Sahara so I can better exercise the patches | 16:24 |
david-lyle | we do really need to prioritize supporting Sahara in J | 16:24 |
crobertsrh | Awesome. Let me know if you have issues. | 16:24 |
crobertsrh | or anyone in #openstack-sahara can likely help you out if I'm not around. | 16:25 |
david-lyle | crobertsrh: thanks for keeping on top of all your patches | 16:25 |
crobertsrh | I currently live [and die] for it :) | 16:25 |
david-lyle | #topic Mid-Cycle Meetup | 16:26 |
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david-lyle | I believe this was brought up and killed, just wanted to make sure I'm caught up here | 16:26 |
akrivoka | yeah, pretty much | 16:27 |
jrist | boom | 16:27 |
david-lyle | I see value in a sprint at some point to develop a coherent architect for the client side work, but the timing of such a sprint?? | 16:27 |
david-lyle | What I don't want to have is a bunch of ad-hoc work on the clientside code that leaves us in a worse state than we started | 16:28 |
david-lyle | we could benefit from getting a number of people in a room to work through the overall design and sticking points | 16:28 |
tqtran | agree | 16:28 |
jomara | +1, i am working on a heat feature that is going to require some decisions about that | 16:28 |
jpich | Was there discussions about a client sprint? | 16:29 |
jpich | for this cycle? | 16:29 |
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david-lyle | jpich: that was my response to the mid-cycle meetup on the mailing list | 16:29 |
* jpich lots of emails about sprints/mid-cycles going through the last couple of months | 16:29 | |
* david-lyle may have imagined responding | 16:29 | |
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david-lyle | at this point, such sprint would likely have to be in late July or early August | 16:30 |
jomara | i will have plenty of code by then you can all sprint over | 16:31 |
david-lyle | that's fairly late in the cycle but could set us up well for better progress in K | 16:31 |
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jpich | If it's too close to feature freeze / milestone 3 lots of people we'd like to have present may ignore it though | 16:32 |
david-lyle | jomara, I think several people will/do, so that makes a little late to be of maximum benefit | 16:32 |
tzumainn | tripleo had some difficulty coordinating a midcycle over that same time frame | 16:32 |
jpich | I agree it'd be great to have either way though! | 16:32 |
tzumainn | so if it's desired, it probably should be planned reallllly soon | 16:32 |
jrist | for K | 16:33 |
david-lyle | I think August is a poor choice for most European folks? is that correct? | 16:33 |
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jomara | is sprint === IRL meetup? | 16:33 |
tzumainn | oh, my bad | 16:33 |
tzumainn | I got confused | 16:33 |
david-lyle | jomara: yeah | 16:33 |
tzumainn | oh, nevermind | 16:33 |
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tqtran | :O IRL not IRC, i didnt misread that? | 16:34 |
jpich | Summer time can be more difficult to coordinate around | 16:35 |
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david-lyle | something to consider quickly, I think it's necessary and would greatly benefit K if it happened prior to K | 16:35 |
david-lyle | jpich: understood | 16:35 |
jpich | but till there's dates, who knows - maybe everyone is going on holidays in July this year | 16:36 |
jomara | jpich: i am going in august! | 16:36 |
jpich | jomara: If you're not European you're not allowed to :( | 16:36 |
david-lyle | I went in June to avoid such conflicts, yay planning | 16:36 |
tqtran | wow, is usually eu vacation month? | 16:37 |
tqtran | *August, eu | 16:37 |
tzumainn | what tripleo did was set up an etherpad with proposed dates and people signed up so that people could see if there was a growing consensus | 16:37 |
jpich | tzumainn: Sounds like a good idea to steal | 16:37 |
jpich | I mean | 16:37 |
jpich | borrow | 16:37 |
david-lyle | we'd need a host and dates | 16:38 |
tzumainn | sorry, you can't have our etherpad | 16:38 |
jrist | jpich: it's open source, just fork it | 16:38 |
tzumainn | lol | 16:38 |
david-lyle | anyone up for setting up the etherpad | 16:38 |
david-lyle | acceptable outcome is that we all have lives that don't allow for a sprint as well | 16:38 |
david-lyle | but you really went into the wrong field if that's already true | 16:39 |
david-lyle | :) | 16:39 |
jpich | Lives are ok, people should get them | 16:39 |
tzumainn | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-horizon-meetup ? | 16:39 |
david-lyle | thanks tzumainn | 16:40 |
david-lyle | #topic Open Discussion | 16:40 |
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david-lyle | I want to give a big thanks to jpich and mrunge for picking up my slack while I was gone. | 16:41 |
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jpich | haha, anytime! ...actually no not too often | 16:41 |
jpich | ;) | 16:41 |
tzumainn | lol | 16:41 |
tzumainn | they did a great job, I thought | 16:41 |
doug-fish | agreed, well done jpich and mrunge | 16:42 |
akrivoka | thanks jpich and mrunge ! | 16:42 |
doug-fish | related to the client side discussion, I wanted to chat about this review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/86089/ | 16:42 |
doug-fish | This is Maxime's work to reimplement the launch instance form in angular. I'm concerned that its becoming so large (its 8k+ loc now) that it's going to be really hard to review. | 16:42 |
doug-fish | Do other reviewers think this is a problem? Is there anything that can be done to make this more reviewable? | 16:42 |
doug-fish | (or maybe I have to wait for the meetup to have that discussion)? | 16:43 |
jrist | I +1 the problem. the sahara stuff has been tough to review | 16:43 |
jomara | doug-fish: FWIW, i am working on a a smaller, but identically architected patch that will be easier to review | 16:43 |
david-lyle | doug-fish: there is a todo in the commit message to split that up | 16:43 |
jpich | doug-fish: Definitely don't wait for a physical meetup to open a discussion | 16:43 |
doug-fish | oh great | 16:43 |
david-lyle | it's really several bps in one | 16:43 |
jpich | and yes 8K sounds a bit over the line... glad to hear it'll be split up :) | 16:44 |
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doug-fish | I can't think about that much code at once! | 16:44 |
tzumainn | jomara, are you working with maxime to coordinate work? or will there be two different implementations? | 16:44 |
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david-lyle | my other concern moving forward with AngularJS is we don't have to convert everything just because we can, we should be looking to places where it provides immediate benefit, otherwise we are just destabilizing our code base | 16:45 |
jpich | Right | 16:46 |
crobertsrh | +1 to that thought, david-lyle. | 16:46 |
jpich | I think there are thoughts that because we have adopted AngularJS we should become more of a Angular project and get rid of most of the current django backend? | 16:47 |
jpich | while others would agree more with your sentiment | 16:47 |
jomara | tzumainn: i am | 16:47 |
jomara | tzumainn: its the same architecture, different code | 16:47 |
jpich | david-lyle: What you suggest makes sense to me | 16:48 |
tsufiev | jpich, is there a kind of plan to get rid of django eventually? | 16:49 |
jpich | I don't think so now | 16:49 |
jpich | s/now/no/ | 16:49 |
tqtran | jpich: i think angular can work well with django, we are shifting some of the server responsibility to reduce load on server | 16:49 |
doug-fish | IMO we'd never get rid of django entirely | 16:49 |
tzumainn | jomara, your heat work required angular, right? | 16:49 |
jpich | Maybe it makes sense for new work that can benefit from angular, like jomara's work it sounds like? | 16:50 |
tqtran | tsufiev: i agree with doug, django is here to stay, its a matter of getting angular to work with django | 16:50 |
jomara | tzumainn: yes | 16:50 |
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jpich | rather than rewriting the existing? though the launch instance form does need a lot of rework either way... | 16:50 |
david-lyle | one reason angular was chosen is because it wasn't all or none | 16:50 |
tsufiev | tqtran, django is fine to me, was just curious :) | 16:50 |
absubram | david-lyle: amotoki: This is regarding the UT change that we spoke about in the Atlanta summit.. I submitted review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/90093/ to address that.. I know amotoki had a couple comments about it (version 5).. and I have commented back.. could you please take a look and respond?.. I think version 5 should be the final solution.. I've posted more comments today | 16:51 |
jomara | the django/angular integration proposed at the juno summit seems like a really nice architecture | 16:51 |
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tqtran | it is, but theres a few issues we have to get a consensus on | 16:51 |
david-lyle | launch instance is certainly an area for improvement and if angular aids in that, which I think it does, then that makes sense | 16:52 |
tqtran | such as how django translation can be handled in angular | 16:52 |
tzumainn | sounds like this architecture could have benefited from a spec : ) | 16:52 |
tzumainn | but in the absence of that, would it make sense to have the proposed architecture on the mailing list | 16:52 |
tzumainn | or somewhere else where it could be discussed? | 16:53 |
doug-fish | tzumainn - I'm hoping that jomara's smaller scale patch will serve as a good platform for discussion | 16:53 |
david-lyle | absubram: I'll put it in my queue | 16:53 |
absubram | thanks much David! | 16:54 |
MAnspach | is there ux work happening on launch instance? | 16:54 |
tzumainn | doug-fish, fair enough - I could just imagine it being discouraging if issues come up that mean that the entire patch has to be reworked | 16:54 |
jpich | MAnspach: Yes! I think a lot of it is being tracked there: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/launch-instance-ux-enhancement | 16:54 |
MAnspach | cool, will have a look! | 16:55 |
lsmola__ | doug-fish: btw. maxime has todo there for splitting up the patch | 16:55 |
doug-fish | tzumainn: sure, understood. | 16:55 |
doug-fish | lsmola__: yeah, I didn't see the todo - I think getting it split up would help me a lot | 16:55 |
doug-fish | I wanted to chat about this review too https://review.openstack.org/#/c/91338/ | 16:56 |
doug-fish | This is a translatability improvement that lets actions be translated as more complete fragments. | 16:56 |
doug-fish | It's a good fix by itself, but also an enablement fix so other tables can be fixed. | 16:56 |
david-lyle | doug-fish: to be fair 5k lines of that is javascript library includes which should go away with xstatic | 16:56 |
doug-fish | david-lyle: fair enough. Still 3k is enough to overflow my brain. | 16:56 |
doug-fish | maybe I'm due for an upgrade | 16:56 |
david-lyle | not arguing the need to break it up, but the 8k scared me off completely | 16:57 |
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tqtran | lol | 16:57 |
doug-fish | I'd love to see the translation fix merge soon-ish so translations can begin, but it's not getting much attention. | 16:58 |
jpich | doug-fish: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/91338/ ? | 16:58 |
doug-fish | (checking my link) | 16:58 |
doug-fish | yeah that's it | 16:59 |
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david-lyle | yeah BatchAction translation | 16:59 |
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jpich | Yes, definitely one to get in soon or it'll miss J (or cause translators to hate us) | 16:59 |
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doug-fish | yeah exactly | 17:00 |
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jpich | Ok we're overtime | 17:01 |
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david-lyle | Thanks everyone | 17:02 |
jpich | Thanks everyone! | 17:02 |
david-lyle | #endmetting | 17:02 |
david-lyle | #endmeeting | 17:02 |
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akrivoka | thanks, bye everyone | 17:02 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 24 17:02:12 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:02 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2014/horizon.2014-06-24-16.00.html | 17:02 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2014/horizon.2014-06-24-16.00.txt | 17:02 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2014/horizon.2014-06-24-16.00.log.html | 17:02 |
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tzumainn | thanks all! | 17:02 |
absubram | thanks and bye! | 17:02 |
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tmazur | thanks all! | 17:02 |
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pballand | hello all | 17:02 |
sarob | Hey | 17:02 |
pballand | #startmeeting CongressTeamMeeting | 17:03 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 24 17:03:07 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is pballand. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:03 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:03 |
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thinrichs | Hi all | 17:03 |
rajdeep | Hi All | 17:03 |
kudva | Hi | 17:03 |
sarob | Hi | 17:04 |
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skn_ | hi guys | 17:04 |
pballand | last week, we were looking at the use case document, and voting | 17:04 |
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pballand | there has been some progress, but I think there’s still some work to do | 17:05 |
sarob | Yup | 17:05 |
pballand | it looks like the majority of use cases require some sort of action, which is good, but will take a bit longer to get to | 17:05 |
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sarob | We need to get a few blueprints targeted for Juno-2 and 3 | 17:06 |
skn_ | Hi Peter, I have added some policies for the security use cases | 17:06 |
pballand | it is also helpful to have the data soruces listed | 17:06 |
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pballand | my preferece are the cases that have multiple data sources, since they leverage a unique capability of congress | 17:07 |
thinrichs | I see we have data sources/policy/actions listed for almost all the use cases—this is super helpful! | 17:07 |
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skn_ | Yeah, I have some data sources too | 17:07 |
sarob | I'll need to review again | 17:07 |
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pballand | if anyone has yet to review or vote, please do so ASAP, so we can push as blueprints | 17:08 |
sarob | When do we want to assign blueprints? | 17:08 |
sarob | That we give us a date to work backward from | 17:09 |
rajdeep | some data sources are listed as generic : RDBMS or some name which i dont understand | 17:09 |
sarob | When we need to finish up specs and the use cases | 17:09 |
pballand | I think we should target this week - does that sound reasonable? | 17:09 |
thinrichs | There are 2 things here: writing up the blueprint and doing the work required for the blueprint. | 17:09 |
rajdeep | it will be great to elaborate | 17:09 |
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thinrichs | I *think* that the work required to implement the blueprint in most cases is writing a datasource driver or two. | 17:09 |
thinrichs | Except for adding the ability to execute actions. Which I’m guessing I’ll end up doing. | 17:10 |
pballand | sarob: I think you had offered to do the blueprint conversion from the doc - is that something you can do this week? | 17:10 |
sarob | Def | 17:10 |
sarob | Just when to pull the trigger | 17:11 |
pballand | so let’s put the deadline for use cases and voting at end of day tomorrow (Wed) | 17:11 |
skn_ | yup | 17:11 |
sarob | Sounds good | 17:11 |
pballand | …at which point we deprecate the google doc | 17:11 |
pballand | #action Final use case submission and voting deadline is Wednesday | 17:11 |
sarob | So blueprints on diff features of the use cases | 17:12 |
pballand | #action sarob to convert top use cases to blueprints | 17:12 |
pballand | other tracking items… | 17:12 |
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sarob | Like per data source, project action | 17:12 |
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thinrichs | sarob: are we talking about 1 blueprint per use case? Or are we talking 1 blueprint per datasource driver? | 17:13 |
sarob | Blueprint per specific features | 17:13 |
sarob | we use blueprint like storyboard cards | 17:13 |
sarob | Specific actionable dev | 17:14 |
pballand | it seems like a blueprint per datasource is appropriate, then the policy use cases should be fairly straightforward | 17:14 |
thinrichs | As long as we don’t lose the info currently in the gdoc, I’m happy. It’s useful to see all of that info all in 1 place. | 17:14 |
sarob | If it's too large of effort then difficult to gauge progress | 17:14 |
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pballand | each datasource is pretty well self-contained | 17:15 |
sarob | Thinichs I'll move it to the wiki | 17:15 |
pballand | sarob: why move it? | 17:15 |
sarob | We want the info to be public and debatable | 17:15 |
pballand | the google doc is public - am I missing something? | 17:16 |
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sarob | Wiki is more standard | 17:16 |
thinrichs | But people can’t leave comments (as easily) on the wiki. | 17:16 |
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sarob | Not that big of a deal | 17:16 |
sarob | Just not how the rest of the teams works | 17:16 |
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pballand | we’re agreed on the blueprints, lets start there, and see how it goes | 17:17 |
sarob | We are still planning on gdoc to spec to blueprint. Right? | 17:17 |
skn_ | sarob: Looks like it | 17:17 |
sarob | I assumed you guys were using shorthand | 17:17 |
sarob | Just wanted to double heck | 17:18 |
sarob | Check | 17:18 |
pballand | sounds right | 17:18 |
sarob | Coolo | 17:18 |
pballand | great, lets move on | 17:18 |
pballand | we seem to be back on track with code reviews, thanks to everyone who jumped in | 17:19 |
pballand | on the code front, we are pushing toward getting an alpha release ready... | 17:19 |
pballand | thinrichs: how’s the policy/dse integration going? | 17:19 |
thinrichs | Making good progress. | 17:19 |
thinrichs | Late last week I hooked up a live Neutron to the system and evaluated policy over it. | 17:20 |
pballand | sweet! | 17:20 |
skn_ | thinrichs: thats awesome | 17:20 |
thinrichs | This week I’m adding hooks for pballand’s API work. | 17:20 |
thinrichs | rajdeep’s driver’s worked without a hitch! | 17:20 |
sarob | Double sweet | 17:20 |
thinrichs | On the real system. | 17:20 |
thinrichs | And I’m being pretty good about expanding our test suite so we should know when we break things later on. | 17:21 |
pballand | as thinrichs mentioned - I pushed the API framework to review, and am working with thinrichs to integrate the calls with the policy enginge (which is the source of truth for much of the data exposed) | 17:21 |
pballand | I’ve not been as good at updating the test suite, but am working on it :) | 17:22 |
pballand | kudva: are you around? | 17:22 |
kudva | pballand: yes | 17:22 |
pballand | how are things going with the policy runtime work? | 17:23 |
kudva | pballand: Good, testing the integration of builtin with runtime. Making progress. | 17:23 |
kudva | pballand: hope to have something to report next week | 17:24 |
thinrichs | kudva: let me know if you need any more pointers. | 17:24 |
thinrichs | kudva found that we were implicitly assuming Python 2.7 or higher | 17:24 |
kudva | thinrichs: Yes, I will update the requirements document. Had some issues with 2.6, switched to 2.7 | 17:25 |
kudva | thinrichs: now it works great with 2.7 | 17:25 |
pballand | it would be helpful to document all of these dependencies, any takers? | 17:25 |
kudva | pballand: also getting a tutorial from rajdeep on data source drivers for future ceilometer integration (seems like that will be important to learn) | 17:25 |
kudva | pballand: I can update the python one. | 17:25 |
pballand | kudva: sounds great | 17:26 |
kudva | pballand: I meant data source drivers in general (possibly ceilometer also, but we can decide that later) | 17:26 |
pballand | kudva: got it - any blockers? | 17:26 |
kudva | pballand: none so far, moving forward | 17:27 |
kudva | pballand: rajdeep agreed to take me through the code, so :) | 17:27 |
pballand | kudva: good to hear :) | 17:27 |
pballand | cloudtoa_: any progress on oslo.messaging? | 17:27 |
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banix | sorry guys for being late; stuck in another meeting | 17:28 |
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pballand | I guess cloudtoa_ stepped out | 17:28 |
pballand | banix: glad you could join | 17:29 |
pballand | banix: we were just finishing up on updates - do you have anything to share? | 17:30 |
banix | pballand: Just got started trying out Congress! | 17:30 |
banix | Have been looking ta the code and will be spending more time wrt testing; got some pointers from Tim so will have more to share next week | 17:31 |
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sarob | Banix get your use case input in today | 17:31 |
banix | sarob: will do | 17:31 |
sarob | :) | 17:32 |
pballand | some people have been asking about status/work items, so I thought it would be worthwhile to quickly summarize where I think we are… | 17:32 |
pballand | current “sprint” has been toward getting an ‘alpha’ ready, which we’ve defined as getting the code to a point where people can easily download and run, executing some monitoring use cases | 17:34 |
pballand | the alpha is currently blocking on a integration between policy and API, which thinrichs and I are pushing through | 17:34 |
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pballand | after that, the next goals we’re working toward are additional data sources, and the enforcement use cases that we’ve been discussing for the past few weeks | 17:35 |
banix | when you say policy you mean the policy engine? the runtime? | 17:35 |
pballand | banix: yes, I use those terms interchangably | 17:36 |
banix | pballand: thx. | 17:36 |
pballand | other work including built-ins by kudva also will be very useful as we add additional features | 17:37 |
pballand | there is a long feature roadmap, but I wanted to share what I see as the current status | 17:38 |
pballand | does anyone have other high-priority items they are tracking? | 17:38 |
banix | is the API piece in for review or not yet? | 17:38 |
banix | in stackforge i meant | 17:39 |
pballand | banix: the framework is in for review (you can actually make requests against it), but it isn’t wired to any actual data | 17:39 |
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thinrichs | Link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101672/ | 17:40 |
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banix | #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101672/ | 17:40 |
banix | sorry… lwas looking for the same link | 17:40 |
pballand | that’s all I had on the agenda for this week | 17:41 |
pballand | #topic Open Discussion | 17:41 |
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pballand | anyone have something they wanted to discuss? | 17:42 |
skn_ | Sorry I missed out most of the discussion since I am sort of multitasking. Did we discuss a timeline on the alpha? | 17:42 |
pballand | ok, I think that’s a wrap for this week | 17:42 |
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pballand | skn_: the alpha will be ready as soon as we get the final api/policy integration pushed - we are hoping for the end of this week | 17:43 |
skn_ | Awesome, once we have something, we should create a plan for the use case implementation for a demo for Juno | 17:44 |
sarob | Thx guys | 17:45 |
pballand | skn_: absolutely, let’s talk about in more detail next week | 17:45 |
skn_ | Yup | 17:45 |
pballand | thanks everyone for joining, we’ll see you next week | 17:45 |
banix | skn_: good | 17:45 |
pballand | #endmeeting | 17:45 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 24 17:45:24 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:45 |
banix | skn_: idea | 17:45 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2014/congressteammeeting.2014-06-24-17.03.html | 17:45 |
banix | bye | 17:45 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2014/congressteammeeting.2014-06-24-17.03.txt | 17:45 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2014/congressteammeeting.2014-06-24-17.03.log.html | 17:45 |
thinrichs | Bye | 17:45 |
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briancurtin | #startmeeting python-openstacksdk | 19:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 24 19:00:16 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is briancurtin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'python_openstacksdk' | 19:00 |
briancurtin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/PythonOpenStackSDK#Agenda_for_2014-06-24_1900_UTC | 19:00 |
briancurtin | if you're here for the python-openstacksdk meeting, say hi | 19:01 |
briancurtin | Brian Curtin, Rackspace | 19:01 |
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edleafe | Ed Leafe, Rackspace | 19:01 |
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terrylhowe | Terry Howe, HP | 19:01 |
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briancurtin | i guess this might be quick | 19:04 |
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briancurtin | i see jamie is away | 19:04 |
terrylhowe | Alex and Jamie said they wouldn’t be here | 19:05 |
briancurtin | ah | 19:05 |
terrylhowe | I pinged Dean in the SDK room | 19:05 |
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briancurtin | terrylhowe: well while we're here, i don't have a review ready or anything, but i'm currently working on fitting head requests into the resource since ive been toying with early swift stuff | 19:07 |
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terrylhowe | ah yeh, the resource doesn’t support HEAD at the moment | 19:07 |
terrylhowe | swift I think will be the biggest square peg | 19:08 |
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briancurtin | yep. i'm doing things a bit hackish at the moment, but will try to break it up as i get more of it figured out | 19:10 |
briancurtin | i guess if dean comes around we can probably just chat in -sdks. anyone opposed to breaking this up and getting back to work? | 19:12 |
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terrylhowe | sounds good if edleafe has nothing | 19:12 |
edleafe | I got nothing. I'm catching up when I have the time | 19:13 |
briancurtin | terrylhowe i'll try to get someone on a second review of the service filter change, and i owe a look at the latest image resource patchset | 19:14 |
briancurtin | and with that... | 19:14 |
briancurtin | #endmeeting | 19:14 |
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terrylhowe | cool | 19:14 |
openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 24 19:14:23 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:14 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/python_openstacksdk/2014/python_openstacksdk.2014-06-24-19.00.html | 19:14 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/python_openstacksdk/2014/python_openstacksdk.2014-06-24-19.00.txt | 19:14 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/python_openstacksdk/2014/python_openstacksdk.2014-06-24-19.00.log.html | 19:14 |
briancurtin | (i'm not going to bother sending those out, just killing it so it doesnt log forever) | 19:14 |
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