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| haleyb | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 15:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 19 15:01:06 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is haleyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3' | 15:01 |
| chuckC | o/ | 15:01 |
| yamamoto | hi | 15:01 |
| haleyb | hi - i'm standing in for carl today, so be gentle :) | 15:01 |
| devvesa | hi | 15:01 |
| haleyb | #topic Announcements | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:02 | |
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| haleyb | i don't have any specific announcements, i'll just re-post that the interim meeting is coming up soon if you haven't made plans yet | 15:02 |
| haleyb | #topic Bugs | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:03 | |
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| salv-orlando | aloha | 15:03 |
| haleyb | Are there any bugs anyone wants to discuss? | 15:03 |
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| haleyb | #topic l3-high-availability | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "l3-high-availability (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:05 | |
| chuckC | I don't see safchain | 15:06 |
| haleyb | i don't see sylvain here so i'll come back to it later if necessary | 15:06 |
| haleyb | #topic neutron-ipam | 15:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "neutron-ipam (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:07 | |
| seizadi | hi, | 15:07 |
| haleyb | hi | 15:07 |
| seizadi | I got some comment mostly formatting errors and I am going through and fixing them. | 15:07 |
| seizadi | We are still on track to meet Juno-2 milestone. | 15:08 |
| seizadi | Looking for all the comments from community. | 15:08 |
| seizadi | That's it from me. | 15:09 |
| haleyb | ok, thanks. i did notice the gerrit link on the subteam page leads to an empty page, don't know if that can be fixed by tagging your specs review differently | 15:09 |
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| seizadi | Can you send me the link, I can followup? | 15:10 |
| chuckC | the link to the ipam spec on the agenda page is bad | 15:10 |
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| haleyb | sure, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron-L3-Subteam | 15:10 |
| seizadi | from L3 Meeting page? | 15:11 |
| chuckC | seizadi: yes | 15:11 |
| haleyb | yes, there's a Gerrit Topics link there i clicked to see your spec, but it shows nothing | 15:11 |
| seizadi | If I can edit the wiki I will fix it. | 15:11 |
| haleyb | if not let me or carl know | 15:12 |
| seizadi | OK | 15:12 |
| haleyb | i think it might just be how you tag the review, but i don't know | 15:12 |
| haleyb | #action seizadi will get gerrit topic link on subteam page to work | 15:13 |
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| haleyb | #topic bgp-dynamic-routing | 15:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bgp-dynamic-routing (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:13 | |
| devvesa | hi | 15:14 |
| devvesa | the state is the same than the last week, we are waiting for Carl's review | 15:14 |
| yamamoto | hi | 15:15 |
| devvesa | yamamoto: hi | 15:15 |
| yamamoto | ryu team is working on ipv6 peering and advertizement | 15:15 |
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| haleyb | devvesa: thanks, carl is out this week | 15:15 |
| devvesa | haleyb: yes! I've seen the mail | 15:16 |
| haleyb | yamamoto: thanks, is there a spec for that? didn't it on the subteam page | 15:17 |
| yamamoto | no, i’m just talking about ryu bgp implementation which might be used by the bgp-dynamic-routing bp. | 15:17 |
| haleyb | ah, ok, thanks | 15:17 |
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| yamamoto | are orange folks here? they might want to introduce their bgp speaker. | 15:19 |
| yamamoto | devvesa: what’s the status of your poc? | 15:20 |
| devvesa | i'm going to send a mail to ryu's mailing list today with some thoughts and ideas | 15:20 |
| yamamoto | thank you very much. we loves to hear that! | 15:21 |
| devvesa | currently I'm connecting ryu's with a quagga's bgpd daemon with your example code | 15:21 |
| devvesa | but I haven't spend the time I would like to it | 15:21 |
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| haleyb | anything else on bgp? | 15:23 |
| yamamoto | nothing from me | 15:24 |
| devvesa | not me neither | 15:24 |
| haleyb | ok, thanks, i'll move to next topic | 15:24 |
| haleyb | #topic neutron-ovs-dvr | 15:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "neutron-ovs-dvr (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:24 | |
| yamamoto | thanks | 15:24 |
| haleyb | There was no DVR meeting this week, and i believe most of the team is out | 15:24 |
| armax | haleyb: yes | 15:25 |
| haleyb | I am continuing to work on our multi-node devstack systems, but time has not cooperated as I expected | 15:25 |
| armax | but there’s still some progress being made | 15:25 |
| armax | as far as the patches withe the bulk of the feature | 15:26 |
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| armax | also, we’re preparing a recording that shows the feature in actio | 15:26 |
| armax | n | 15:26 |
| armax | so that people can better visualize what’s going on | 15:26 |
| armax | that’s all I have | 15:26 |
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| chuckC | haleyb: I have volunteered to help with dvr testing, and have multi-node devstack working without dvr, if that might help | 15:26 |
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| haleyb | chuckC: we have the same here, and were doing a baremetal install as well. I was hoping to at least get some patches out this week just to enable it in local.conf, maybe tomorrow | 15:28 |
| haleyb | armax: thanks, and it seems like there is still some active reviewing on the patches so that is good | 15:29 |
| chuckC | haleyb: ok to chat outside channel? | 15:29 |
| haleyb | sure, ping me after meeting | 15:29 |
| armax | haleyb: btw I was going to collate all patches in a single branch | 15:29 |
| armax | for easier consumption | 15:29 |
| armax | however I am waiting for the last bits to come alone before that’s complete | 15:30 |
| armax | haleyb: I think there are still a few loose ends that need to be tied | 15:30 |
| armax | haleyb: up and then I’ll publish it here https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/DVR/HowTo | 15:31 |
| haleyb | armax: that would be great getting things on one branch, would make installing them into devstack easier | 15:31 |
| armax | haleyb, chuckC: if you have localrc to share, gotchas etc | 15:31 |
| armax | please post it to that wiki page ^ | 15:31 |
| yamamoto | i peeked some of dvr changes and got a little surprised that it was big and intrusive than i expected. | 15:32 |
| armax | haleyb: yes | 15:32 |
| armax | haleyb: also we need to figure if something needs to go to devstack itself | 15:32 |
| armax | haleyb: especially when more automated tests are introduced | 15:33 |
| haleyb | armax: at a minimum something like "q-dvr" to turn-on the correct flags, but it's not just one option from my reading | 15:33 |
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| armax | we’ll see... | 15:35 |
| armax | these days everything can be controlled by a local.conf | 15:35 |
| armax | so that might be a setting for a new experimental jenkins job | 15:36 |
| armax | haleyb: need to cordinate with openstack-infra | 15:36 |
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| haleyb | yes, once we can get it enabled consistently we need to look at the testing side more | 15:38 |
| armax | anyhoo that’s all from me | 15:38 |
| haleyb | ok, thanks | 15:38 |
| haleyb | #topic l3-svcs-vendor-* | 15:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "l3-svcs-vendor-* (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:39 | |
| haleyb | i don't see pcm | 15:39 |
| haleyb | did notice he did update https://review.openstack.org/#/c/96946/ the other day | 15:40 |
| haleyb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/96946/ | 15:40 |
| haleyb | #topic Open Discussion | 15:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:40 | |
| haleyb | anyone have anything else they want to discuss? otherwise you can have 20 minutes back for reviews :) | 15:42 |
| yamamoto | earlier end of meeting is fine for me as it’s midnight here :) | 15:42 |
| yamamoto | nothing from me | 15:42 |
| haleyb | ok then, thanks everyone | 15:43 |
| haleyb | #endmeeting | 15:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:43 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 19 15:43:20 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:43 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2014/neutron_l3.2014-06-19-15.01.html | 15:43 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2014/neutron_l3.2014-06-19-15.01.txt | 15:43 |
| yamamoto | thanks | 15:43 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2014/neutron_l3.2014-06-19-15.01.log.html | 15:43 |
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| salv-orlando | adieu | 15:46 |
| armax | salv-orlando: loooooooot | 15:48 |
| salv-orlando | loooooooot of love to you as well | 15:48 |
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| rossella_s | mestery: Hi Kyle, can you have a look again at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/66899/ please? I added the spec as requested :) | 16:16 |
| rossella_s | mestery: sorry wrong window...I meant to write in the neutron channel | 16:17 |
| mestery | rossella_s: Thanks! I'll review, though maybe not until tomorrow, still at LBaaS sprint | 16:17 |
| mestery | rossella_s: no worries | 16:17 |
| rossella_s | mestery: thanks! | 16:17 |
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| zehicle_at_dell | o/ | 17:08 |
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| davidlenwell | here | 17:09 |
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| davidlenwell | #startmeeting refstack | 17:10 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 19 17:10:18 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is davidlenwell. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:10 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 17:10 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'refstack' | 17:10 |
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| zehicle_at_sbuck | o/ | 17:10 |
| fcarpenter | o/ | 17:10 |
| catherine_d | here | 17:11 |
| zehicle_at_sbuck | suggsted topic: participating in the Tempest mid cycle meeting (if they are having one) | 17:12 |
| davidlenwell | Sorry I was late popping in here.. I had a guy installing a new ineternet connection at my house | 17:12 |
| zehicle_at_sbuck | yeah! MORE INTERNETS | 17:12 |
| * zehicle_at_sbuck never has enough of them | 17:13 | |
| * davidlenwell never can have enough internets | 17:13 | |
| zehicle_at_sbuck | I can give a DefCore update | 17:14 |
| zehicle_at_sbuck | basically, came out like we were expecting with a minor change | 17:14 |
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| zehicle_at_sbuck | we're moving to using capabilities for the scoring and then tests are in managed in the capabilities.json | 17:14 |
| zehicle_at_sbuck | I'll remove the tests.json | 17:15 |
| davidlenwell | sounds good to me | 17:15 |
| davidlenwell | was waiting for that after the defcore meeting the other day | 17:15 |
| zehicle_at_sbuck | the bigger change is that we're going to have capabilities include ALL TESTS that the PTLs think should be included | 17:15 |
| zehicle_at_sbuck | and DefCore will flag tests that can be omitted | 17:15 |
| davidlenwell | that should be interesting ..b ut they would know best | 17:15 |
| zehicle_at_sbuck | it's a little more complex to model | 17:15 |
| davidlenwell | is it written down in detail some place? | 17:16 |
| davidlenwell | #topic defcore update | 17:16 |
| zehicle_at_sbuck | the assumption is that if the technical teams think these tests make up a capability then they are likely right | 17:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "defcore update (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 17:16 | |
| zehicle_at_sbuck | it was in the minutes of DefCore. | 17:16 |
| davidlenwell | they would know best | 17:16 |
| catherine_d | So PTLs will give a list o tests | 17:16 |
| zehicle_at_sbuck | #question should we make a spec for the change or just patch the existing files | 17:16 |
| zehicle_at_sbuck | I'm in favor of just patching, but could do it either way | 17:16 |
| davidlenwell | we should write a spec about how we are supposed to interpret that data and include instructions for ptls | 17:16 |
| davidlenwell | we can change the existing spec | 17:17 |
| zehicle_at_sbuck | ok, that makes sense | 17:17 |
| davidlenwell | but as far as I know that hasnt merged into the approved folder anyways | 17:17 |
| zehicle_at_sbuck | better documentation | 17:17 |
| zehicle_at_sbuck | so, I'll need a story for that. I can get that done for tomorrow | 17:17 |
| zehicle_at_sbuck | was that Catherine's spec? | 17:17 |
| davidlenwell | she started it .. but I don't think it ever merged | 17:18 |
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| catherine_d | My spec only specify the testid format | 17:18 |
| catherine_d | we should merge mine and start a new spec for the JSON | 17:19 |
| davidlenwell | zehicle_at_sbuck: so hers might make a good reference .. but maybe start from scratch | 17:19 |
| zehicle_at_sbuck | let's keep them separate. I can xref | 17:19 |
| zehicle_at_sbuck | +1 | 17:19 |
| zehicle_at_sbuck | agreed, we have a plan on that | 17:19 |
| catherine_d | +1 to keep them separate... I think there would be more change to the JSON format down the road | 17:19 |
| catherine_d | but the test id format should be mor stable .. | 17:20 |
| davidlenwell | #agreed zehicle_at_sbuck will write the defcore spec defining how the data is to be used and how ptls can add the lists of tests they want for each projects | 17:20 |
| zehicle_at_sbuck | sounds like I'll need a flow chart too (something I promised to DefCore anyway) | 17:20 |
| zehicle_at_sbuck | may take longer than Friday | 17:20 |
| catherine_d | so davidlenwell: if you can merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98907/ then zehicle_at_sbuck: can refer to that spec for test id | 17:21 |
| davidlenwell | #topic sprint planning | 17:21 |
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| davidlenwell | Now that we have a ton of work items .. we can actually plan work sprints | 17:21 |
| davidlenwell | Since most things depend on the api.. that will be the first item tackled. | 17:21 |
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| rockyg | o/ | 17:22 |
| davidlenwell | hi rocky .. you can read the minutes later and get the back log | 17:22 |
| rockyg | kk | 17:22 |
| zehicle_at_sbuck | ok if I can find someone to turn the mocks into HTML/CSS templates? | 17:22 |
| davidlenwell | I can do that | 17:23 |
| davidlenwell | unless you can find someone who's good at it | 17:23 |
| davidlenwell | but lets start with the mocks | 17:23 |
| zehicle_at_sbuck | davidlenwell, if you have someone, then let's use them | 17:23 |
| zehicle_at_sbuck | +1 | 17:23 |
| zehicle_at_sbuck | they can work w/ me 1x1 if needed | 17:23 |
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| davidlenwell | in this early stage I want to be very anal about the front end code .. it will set a precident for the rest of the work done on the front end | 17:24 |
| zehicle_at_sbuck | +1 | 17:24 |
| rockyg | +1 | 17:24 |
| davidlenwell | which means if I have to forgo sleep for a weekend to make sure its right.. that is what I will do | 17:24 |
| zehicle_at_sbuck | you may want a story for a design template | 17:24 |
| davidlenwell | yeah .. sounds like a plan | 17:25 |
| davidlenwell | we should probably have a ui planning meeting in general | 17:26 |
| zehicle_at_sbuck | if there was a template in place, I'd could help populate the data flows inside the template | 17:26 |
| davidlenwell | I don't want to take a lot of time here .. but some face time and a white board will probably go a long way | 17:26 |
| rockyg | +1 | 17:26 |
| zehicle_at_sbuck | it looks like I'm in SJC next week. Not sure if I have time to swing to SF but can try | 17:26 |
| davidlenwell | by our next meeting lets have a ui f2f planned | 17:27 |
| zehicle_at_sbuck | +1 | 17:27 |
| davidlenwell | #agreed by our next meeting lets have a ui f2f planned | 17:27 |
| zehicle_at_sbuck | we should shortlist people who want to be involved | 17:27 |
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| zehicle_at_sbuck | and try go keep it short | 17:27 |
| zehicle_at_sbuck | to make scheduling easier | 17:27 |
| davidlenwell | I can probably steel one of pistons ux people for an afternoon to help | 17:27 |
| davidlenwell | but I'll find out | 17:28 |
| davidlenwell | if nothing else they can help in the review process .. they've already offered this much | 17:28 |
| catherine_d | so there are 2 things that I think are priority to work on 1) UI 2) data model ... seems like we have a plan for UI ... How about data model | 17:29 |
| davidlenwell | catherine_d: are you reffering to the data model in general or the data models needed for the defcore reports? | 17:29 |
| catherine_d | data model in general .. | 17:30 |
| catherine_d | I think we talked about that in the last f2f | 17:30 |
| davidlenwell | So we did make a better plan for the data model in general durring the api redesign | 17:30 |
| catherine_d | too many changes and we would like to take a over look at the model | 17:30 |
| davidlenwell | if you look at the spec that landed in approved this week .. it clearly lists a lot of changes to the models | 17:30 |
| davidlenwell | part of integrating the new api will be patching the old code to use the new model structure | 17:31 |
| davidlenwell | and a migration path | 17:31 |
| catherine_d | so are we set in the current data model with the changes? | 17:31 |
| davidlenwell | yes I think so | 17:31 |
| davidlenwell | https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/132 | 17:32 |
| catherine_d | for example .. at the f2f we discussed that the endpoint UUID should be in test object .. | 17:32 |
| davidlenwell | #link https://github.com/stackforge/refstack/blob/master/specs/approved/api-v1.md | 17:32 |
| davidlenwell | cpid is being added to the test model | 17:32 |
| * krotscheck peers at that story - it doesn’t load instantly, he should file a story for that. | 17:32 | |
| catherine_d | in the spec that zehicle_at_sbuck: wrote this UUID will be in the cloud object (which I aree) .. so where should it be? | 17:32 |
| davidlenwell | krotscheck: that has been happening a lot | 17:33 |
| krotscheck | davidlenwell: Got it | 17:33 |
| catherine_d | but that is not state in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99500/ | 17:33 |
| davidlenwell | that is not a merged spec | 17:34 |
| catherine_d | I know but both zehicle_at_sbuck: and I think it should be in cloud model so should we have some discussion? | 17:34 |
| catherine_d | to get the final agreement? | 17:34 |
| davidlenwell | if we dissagree .. yes | 17:35 |
| catherine_d | I think that is the case here .. | 17:35 |
| davidlenwell | I will review his spec today and if I dissagree will comment as such .. then we can have further discussion | 17:35 |
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| catherine_d | ok | 17:36 |
| zehicle_at_sbuck | back - catching up in thread | 17:36 |
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| zehicle_at_sbuck | My assumption was that there's a model above cloud ("vendor / company"?) | 17:37 |
| davidlenwell | I will make a diagram of the database so that we can stop making asumptions | 17:37 |
| catherine_d | the model aboive cloud is user then vendor | 17:37 |
| zehicle_at_sbuck | ok | 17:37 |
| catherine_d | test is below cloud | 17:37 |
| rockyg | I <3 diagrams | 17:38 |
| catherine_d | test result is inside test | 17:38 |
| zehicle_at_sbuck | +1 on a diagram | 17:38 |
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| davidlenwell | its like russian nesting dolls .. I'll make some pictures and then we can debate where things belong | 17:38 |
| zehicle_at_sbuck | I'm happy to adjust the spec | 17:38 |
| davidlenwell | no point in going into it here | 17:38 |
| zehicle_at_sbuck | +1, issue flagged, let;s keep moving | 17:39 |
| catherine_d | +1 | 17:39 |
| catherine_d | are we moving to review next? | 17:40 |
| * zehicle_at_sbuck thinks lunch time meetings are hard on the schedule | 17:40 | |
| davidlenwell | no | 17:40 |
| davidlenwell | zehicle_at_sbuck: agreed .. my last agenda item of the day is adjusting this meeting time | 17:40 |
| davidlenwell | but I digress | 17:40 |
| zehicle_at_sbuck | davidlenwell, +1 - esp w/ people joining from Ukrain | 17:40 |
| davidlenwell | #topic unit tests | 17:41 |
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| davidlenwell | so I'd like to make it someones job to think through some basic starting point unit tests for our code.. | 17:41 |
| davidlenwell | rockyg: what do you have alex doing? | 17:42 |
| rockyg | Docker stuff. He's creating a container for provisioning data centers | 17:43 |
| davidlenwell | So not refstack things | 17:43 |
| rockyg | Not at the moment. But the docker stuff is very useful for our TCUP stuff. | 17:43 |
| rockyg | He's learning tons. | 17:43 |
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| davidlenwell | thats good for him.. | 17:43 |
| davidlenwell | I'd personally volunteer to write and design the unit tests.. but so far every single work item in the refstack storyboard stories are assigned to me | 17:44 |
| rockyg | Might be abel to carve some time out, but I don't want to break his rythm, and he's so accomodating that I need to make sure he can do multiple things without losing focus. | 17:44 |
| davidlenwell | catherine_d: Do you think this is something you or someone at ibm can help with? | 17:45 |
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| rockyg | davidlenwell: if you can write one good example that tests ean existing chunk of code, that could help | 17:46 |
| rockyg | We could point almost anyone at it then. | 17:46 |
| catherine_d | I am not sure that is our forte .. I was about to take and implement the spec about tempest file | 17:46 |
| davidlenwell | what spec is that? | 17:46 |
| davidlenwell | I will create unit tests for the api that I am working on now. | 17:47 |
| catherine_d | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98914/ | 17:47 |
| davidlenwell | it is one of the work items | 17:47 |
| rockyg | I can get someone on it in China once the repository is in openstack/infra. Right now, the CN management is only counting integrated contributions to OS | 17:47 |
| catherine_d | for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98914/ we can work on most of the stuff except UI .. | 17:48 |
| davidlenwell | oh .. catherine_d I had assumed I would have to do that | 17:48 |
| catherine_d | or UI will be mockup until a official UI is desinged | 17:48 |
| davidlenwell | but if you can handle it .. by all means .. lets assign it to you | 17:48 |
| zehicle_at_dell | I've asked our new people to help w/ tests but it will be a while before they are up to speed | 17:48 |
| catherine_d | ok np | 17:48 |
| catherine_d | we have not started ... | 17:49 |
| davidlenwell | well I suppose my api tests will have to suffice as a starting point | 17:49 |
| davidlenwell | okay final topic .. | 17:49 |
| davidlenwell | #topic meeting times | 17:49 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "meeting times (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 17:49 | |
| davidlenwell | I'd like to make sure I can start attending all of the q/a meetings | 17:49 |
| zehicle_at_dell | +1 | 17:49 |
| davidlenwell | rob has a hard time meeting at lunch | 17:49 |
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| catherine_d | so would you like us to take https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98914/ while you work on API? | 17:49 |
| rockyg | Fortunately for me, davidlenwell dislikes early mornings even more than I do. | 17:50 |
| catherine_d | or we can work on the API spec | 17:50 |
| zehicle_at_dell | any chance we could move it earlier in the day? | 17:50 |
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| zehicle_at_dell | sigh | 17:50 |
| davidlenwell | and we have a few new team members from ukrain | 17:50 |
| davidlenwell | I'm not a morning person | 17:50 |
| zehicle_at_dell | so, likely the best time will be afternoon | 17:50 |
| zehicle_at_dell | back to 3 pm? | 17:50 |
| davidlenwell | yes .. | 17:50 |
| rockyg | what is Ukrain utc offset? | 17:50 |
| davidlenwell | 3pm pacific ? | 17:51 |
| zehicle_at_dell | I think it's -10 | 17:51 |
| rockyg | No. 3pm is the alternate time of QA | 17:51 |
| zehicle_at_dell | we could alternate w/ QA | 17:51 |
| zehicle_at_dell | take the opposite slots | 17:51 |
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| davidlenwell | are we married to thursday ? | 17:51 |
| zehicle_at_dell | no | 17:51 |
| rockyg | Unless you want to do 10 and 3 altenating opposite of QA | 17:51 |
| davidlenwell | I actually find that thursday isn't the best day | 17:51 |
| davidlenwell | I'd preffer early in the week | 17:51 |
| davidlenwell | makes planning for the week easier | 17:51 |
| rockyg | Anything but Tuesday | 17:51 |
| davidlenwell | now we have a planning meeting and then the weekend before anyone actually works | 17:52 |
| davidlenwell | I move for monday in the mid afternoon | 17:52 |
| zehicle_at_dell | Monday? | 17:52 |
| zehicle_at_dell | +1 | 17:52 |
| rockyg | Works for me. | 17:52 |
| zehicle_at_dell | let's give that a try | 17:52 |
| davidlenwell | 2pm | 17:52 |
| zehicle_at_dell | 3 would be better for the Ukrain people | 17:52 |
| davidlenwell | zehicle_at_dell: do you want to do the change in the wiki's or should I do it? | 17:52 |
| davidlenwell | 3 is fine | 17:52 |
| zehicle_at_dell | davidlenwell, could you do it | 17:52 |
| davidlenwell | yes .. I'll try to remember | 17:52 |
| zehicle_at_dell | I'm not crazy about the 5 pm time, but I can make it work | 17:53 |
| zehicle_at_dell | not good for east, but that's not an issue right now | 17:53 |
| rockyg | Puts Praveen around 10pm | 17:53 |
| davidlenwell | thats why I said 2 pm | 17:53 |
| zehicle_at_dell | Praveen does not have much time for this | 17:53 |
| rockyg | Ah. | 17:53 |
| davidlenwell | #agreed new meeting time will be monday at 3pm pacific .. channel tbd | 17:54 |
| davidlenwell | I wil get it in the wiki and scheduled and then I will email fits | 17:54 |
| davidlenwell | catherine_d: lets talk later today offline about what you guys can work on | 17:55 |
| rockyg | Checking tz of Ukraine | 17:55 |
| catherine_d | ok | 17:55 |
| catherine_d | can we talk on #refstack? | 17:55 |
| davidlenwell | the ukraine folks are contractos and likely won't be perminate additions to the team .. we aren't going to be able to make everyone happy with the meeting time | 17:55 |
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| davidlenwell | catherine_d: yes .. but in an hour or so .. im commutng to the office after this meeting | 17:56 |
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| catherine_d | ok | 17:56 |
| davidlenwell | anything else? | 17:56 |
| catherine_d | review but we do not have time | 17:56 |
| rockyg | 9pm Ukraine tinme =11am PDT | 17:56 |
| davidlenwell | how is that relevant ? | 17:57 |
| rockyg | ifno | 17:57 |
| rockyg | ionfo | 17:57 |
| rockyg | info | 17:57 |
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| davidlenwell | like I said .. we can't make everyone happy on a global team with meeting times .. its just not possible | 17:57 |
| catherine_d | I -1 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99500/ because I would like to see whether we still support push with credential .. | 17:57 |
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| davidlenwell | catherine_d: I'll review all pending code reviews today | 17:58 |
| davidlenwell | we can discuss them in #refstack | 17:58 |
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| catherine_d | ok | 17:58 |
| davidlenwell | #endmeeting | 17:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 19 17:59:01 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2014/refstack.2014-06-19-17.10.html | 17:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2014/refstack.2014-06-19-17.10.txt | 17:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2014/refstack.2014-06-19-17.10.log.html | 17:59 |
| banix | prasadv: thinrichs hi | 17:59 |
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| prasadv | banix: hi | 18:00 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | hi all | 18:01 |
| s3wong | Meeting? | 18:01 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: yeah | 18:01 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | lets get started | 18:01 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | just waiting for a few folks to get in | 18:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #startmeeting networking_policy | 18:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 19 18:01:30 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SumitNaiksatam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking_policy)" | 18:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_policy' | 18:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #info agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron_Group_Policy | 18:01 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #info Neutron Juno Project Plan: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/NeutronJunoProjectPlan | 18:02 |
| s3wong | we are slated for J-2 | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so the expectation for group policy is J-2 | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: yeah | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and we are already in J-2 | 18:02 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Gerrit Reviews | 18:03 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | Patches with EP, EPG, L2/3 Policy: | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/95900 | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/96050 | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/96393 | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so there was good reviewer attention on these for the past couple of weeks | 18:04 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | thanks to the reviewers! | 18:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | to summarize the changes/updates | 18:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | on the API patch rkukura had suggestions on testing the default and non-default values for the attributes independently | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we also did some refactoring in the UTs so that the mapping driver patches could easily extend this module | 18:05 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | there was more intense discussion on the DB patch, still on the UTs though | 18:06 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | the suggestion was to remove the use of context manager altogether (and thus not implicitly delete resources) | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so this has been incorporated now | 18:06 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | the plugin patch has also been rebased | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | comments/questions? | 18:07 |
| banix | Great. Saw the discussion on Neutron channel. Are we going to take these to the Neutron weekly meeting for more reviews? | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: yes sure, we did mention in the past meetings | 18:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: but please feel free to advertize more :-) | 18:08 |
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| s3wong | wow a massive group of people left the channel at the same time... | 18:08 |
| banix | net split | 18:09 |
| prasadv | something sumit said :) | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | damn…i was about to get kicked out too :-) | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | my client was frozen | 18:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | but yeah, you can blame it on me! | 18:10 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | ok so if nothing else to discuss on the model patches, then lets move to the next item in the agenda | 18:11 |
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| s3wong | hmm... freenode is acting strangely (or OpenStack bot) | 18:11 |
| s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: sure | 18:11 |
| rkukura | seem freenode has been having issues - just started seeing traffic here | 18:11 |
| rkukura | what did I miss? | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yeah | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | it seems to have resset the meeting to refstack | 18:12 |
| banix | need to change the meeting topic? | 18:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: not much | 18:12 |
| s3wong | banix: Meeting topic seems to still be "networking_policy" | 18:12 |
| rkukura | Mine says refstack | 18:12 |
| banix | not for me | 18:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: is it, mine says refstack | 18:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: yeah | 18:12 |
| banix | let’s open a bug | 18:13 |
| SumitNaiksatam | should we just try to end this meeting and start a new one? | 18:13 |
| s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: rkukura: banix: Oh really, mine still says "networking_policy" | 18:13 |
| s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: sure | 18:13 |
| banix | if we can end it that is; yeah | 18:13 |
| rkukura | Not sure which of the meetings it’ll end, but give it a try | 18:13 |
| s3wong | banix: supposedly after one hour anyone can endmeeting | 18:13 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #endmeeting | 18:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 18:13 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 19 18:13:49 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:13 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2014/networking_policy.2014-06-19-18.01.html | 18:13 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2014/networking_policy.2014-06-19-18.01.txt | 18:13 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2014/networking_policy.2014-06-19-18.01.log.html | 18:13 |
| s3wong | SumitNaiksatam: see it is "networking_policy" :-) | 18:14 |
| rkukura | bye ;) | 18:14 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | :-) | 18:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #startmeeting networking_policy | 18:14 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 19 18:14:26 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SumitNaiksatam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:14 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:14 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_policy' | 18:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | now it seems to be proper | 18:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Mapping driver/data path patches | 18:14 |
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| banix | wow | 18:15 |
| ivar-lazzaro | ban hammer again! | 18:15 |
| s3wong | SumitNaiksatam is turning bunch of people away everytime mapping driver is mentioned :-) | 18:15 |
| banix | this is actually more fun; some get kicked out randomly | 18:15 |
| SumitNaiksatam | s3wong: hahaha | 18:15 |
| SumitNaiksatam | GPM API-1: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100716/ | 18:16 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | we just have to work through adversarial circumstances, i think we are used to it :-P | 18:16 |
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| s3wong | rkukura: did you get dropped and rejoin? | 18:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i think rkukura is back | 18:16 |
| rkukura | got dropped | 18:17 |
| s3wong | for some reason rkukura is always selected :-) | 18:17 |
| rkukura | all the freenode rooms split | 18:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: you are on the spot as well | 18:17 |
| s3wong | rkukura: that's right, can't blame OpenStack, happening to ODL also | 18:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: GPM-API-1 ^^^ | 18:17 |
| rkukura | I think mandeep_ has been on the same side of the split as me, but doesn’t seem to be in this meeting | 18:17 |
| rkukura | The patch SumitNaiksatam is in review | 18:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: is, great | 18:18 |
| rkukura | The GPM-DB-1 patch is updated based on that and all Sumit’s recent updates in the GP-*-1 series | 18:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: okay | 18:18 |
| rkukura | So I’m just finishing up the UTs and should post that for review today | 18:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: great thanks | 18:19 |
| rkukura | I think the GPM-plugin-1 patch is trivial, so might get that out today too | 18:19 |
| rkukura | Then the work on the drivers continues, so those should be in review by mid next week | 18:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: so (for the benefit of the folks here who havent looked at the GPM patch), the GPM API patch basically maps EP, EPG, L2/3 policy to the traditional neutron resources, right? | 18:19 |
| rkukura | I’m traveling from 6/25 - 7/2, so my goal is to get the drivers into review beforehand | 18:20 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: correct | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: and we use attribute extension, right? | 18:20 |
| rkukura | Thanks to support SumitNaiksatam added in his UTs, I was able to remove almost all UT code from GPM-API-1 | 18:21 |
| rkukura | The GPM-DB-1 patch will also reuse the GP-DB-1 UTs, but needs to add several additional UTs | 18:21 |
| rkukura | Anyway, its been slow going, but I think the initial series should be very stable now, so less churn going forward | 18:22 |
| LouisF | mapping RD->router, BD->subnet, etc? | 18:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | LouisF: yes, though i made add RD is L3 policy now, and BD is L2 policy | 18:23 |
| rkukura | LouisF: Yes, but RD is now L3P and BD is now L2P, and both use lists | 18:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | made -> may | 18:23 |
| LouisF | ok thx | 18:23 |
| rkukura | EPG->subnets, EP->port | 18:23 |
| rkukura | L2P->network | 18:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: thanks for the update (and also the reviews) | 18:24 |
| LouisF | right | 18:24 |
| * SumitNaiksatam thinks rkukura is the master of three letter acronyms..ML2 was the first…now L2P, L3P :-P | 18:24 | |
| rkukura | So once this series is complete, the GP API will be usable to boot VMs, but all traffic will be allowed between EPGs in the same L3P | 18:24 |
| rkukura | ;) | 18:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: okay good to know about the path forward | 18:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | any other questions for rkukura on the mapping API patch? | 18:25 |
| s3wong | Guys: getting out of the room for a moment, BRB | 18:25 |
| * SumitNaiksatam thinks s3wong is jumping out a strategic time ;-P | 18:26 | |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: I don’t see it on the agenda, but are you getting started on the GP-*-2 series of patches? | 18:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: yes | 18:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: so that is the breadth series | 18:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | the plan was to base that off the plugin-1 patch (until the mapping driver stuff comes along) | 18:27 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: Makes sense | 18:27 |
| banix | Aiming J-3 for those? | 18:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so breadth is something like API-1 -> DB-1 -> plugin-1 -> API-2 -> DB-2 -> plugin-3 | 18:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: noooo…everything is aimed for J-2 :-) | 18:28 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | we might not merge but at least lets try to get it out for review | 18:28 |
| rkukura | We should aim to get at least GP-*-1 and GPM-*-1 merged before J-2 | 18:29 |
| banix | SumitNaiksatam: ok; i think that should be the goal for getting in Juno | 18:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: we should work towards the goal | 18:29 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | banix rkukura: agree | 18:29 |
| prasadv | CLI and Heat stuff is that for J2 too? | 18:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | the thing is that the client and horizon patches have dependecies on the model patches | 18:29 |
| rkukura | And getting as much of GP-*-2 and GPM-*-2 into review as possible by J-2? | 18:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and heat too, as prasadv points out | 18:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | prasadv: lets discuss that in your part of the agenda | 18:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | btw, correction from earlier, i meant to say: API-1 -> DB-1 -> plugin-1 -> API-2 -> DB-2 -> plugin-2 | 18:30 |
| banix | i think the GP-*-1s are ready; so we have to push for reviews to see if there are anything that need changing and move forward | 18:30 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: What do you mean by “model patches”? | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: totally | 18:31 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam, banix: Isn’t our strategy to get GPM-*-1 into review before pushing for cores to +2/+A GP-*-1? | 18:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: model patches being API/DB/Plugin-1/2/3 where 1 is for EP, EPG, L2P, L3P, 2 is for classifier, action and rules, and 3 is for Contracts and EPG/Contract association | 18:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i think thats what banix meant | 18:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: in anticipation of your mapping patches landing | 18:32 |
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| banix | They are coming! | 18:32 |
| banix | GP*-*-1 | 18:33 |
| banix | *-1 | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: :-) | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we already covered UTs in the earlier update | 18:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i think we have agreement from the current set of reviewers regarding the current approach on the UTs | 18:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | changes such as directly calling the DB layer are currently planned as an enhancement iteration | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | is s3wong back? | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | lets circle back to adv services in a bit | 18:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic CLI, Horizon update | 18:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CLI, Horizon update (Meeting topic: networking_policy)" | 18:37 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | prasadv: so any updates from hemanth on the CLI | 18:37 |
| SumitNaiksatam | prasadv: i know you are bit blocked my the API patches | 18:37 |
| prasadv | no updates. We will get started on them soon | 18:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | my -> by | 18:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | prasadv: okay, np | 18:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | prasadv: my understanding is that we are targeting J-2 even for this | 18:38 |
| prasadv | is heat also planned for J2? | 18:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | prasadv: we want to be able to give the reviewers all the tools to be able to review this in entirety | 18:38 |
| prasadv | hemanth is in India. I will let him know | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | prasadv: may be we can go to J-3 for heat | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | is ronak here? | 18:39 |
| LouisF | is there a patch for the heat work? | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | LouisF: yes | 18:39 |
| banix | LouisF: old one | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | LouisF: #link https://review.openstack.org/93657 | 18:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: true | 18:40 |
| LouisF | thx | 18:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | LouisF: this was written for the PoC | 18:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | prasadv: so the plan is to build on this? | 18:40 |
| prasadv | SumitNaiksatam: yes | 18:40 |
| prasadv | susaant is not on the IRC. Will ask him start attending this | 18:41 |
| prasadv | for heat | 18:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | prasadv: ok | 18:41 |
| prasadv | we might have heat for J2 but will confirm | 18:42 |
| SumitNaiksatam | prasadv: sweet | 18:42 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | i dont think we have ronak here | 18:44 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ok moving on | 18:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | is s3wong back? | 18:45 |
| banix | Trouble in Texas! | 18:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | may be banix can chime in | 18:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Adv services integration | 18:46 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | banix: have you heard for any progress? | 18:46 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | banix: or rather any blockers? | 18:46 |
| banix | Well, from yesterday meeting it looks like we will have flavors and hopefully steering moving forward | 18:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: okay | 18:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: but specifically for our GP integration | 18:47 |
| banix | SumitNaiksatam: no | 18:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: we have the GP requirements on the agenda, but we are not able to bring it up | 18:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: ok | 18:47 |
| banix | the only thing is that not sure about the status of service chaining | 18:48 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: ok | 18:48 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #action banix SumitNaiksatam to check on the status of service chaining support for GP | 18:48 |
| SumitNaiksatam | perhaps once we have the mapping driver framework in place, it will be easier to make progress with the services’ integration | 18:49 |
| * SumitNaiksatam thinks s3wong is busy guarding the Alamo or participating the victory parade :-P | 18:49 | |
| banix | we didnt get to talk about service insertion but the reviews seem to be progressing | 18:49 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: ok good | 18:50 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Open Discussion | 18:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: networking_policy)" | 18:50 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | sorry my connection is a bit choppy, here so i am experience delays in the messages | 18:50 |
| SumitNaiksatam | anything else we want to discuss today? | 18:50 |
| SumitNaiksatam | or we can go back to catching up on the world cup! :-P | 18:51 |
| SumitNaiksatam | okay so be on the lookout for rkukura’s mappingpatches, they will land by tomorrow | 18:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and please also review my earlier patches | 18:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | thanks all! | 18:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bye | 18:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #endmeeting | 18:52 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 19 18:52:45 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2014/networking_policy.2014-06-19-18.14.html | 18:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2014/networking_policy.2014-06-19-18.14.txt | 18:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2014/networking_policy.2014-06-19-18.14.log.html | 18:52 |
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