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| carl_baldwin | hi all. | 15:00 |
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| carl_baldwin | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 5 15:00:45 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is carl_baldwin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3' | 15:00 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Announcements | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:00 | |
| chuckC | hi | 15:00 |
| yamamoto | hi | 15:00 |
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| carl_baldwin | looks like I forgot to update the announcements section on the team page. | 15:01 |
| armax | hi | 15:01 |
| carl_baldwin | Juno-1 is in one week. | 15:01 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron-L3-Subteam | 15:01 |
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| carl_baldwin | I did not add the second mid-cycle meeting either. | 15:02 |
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| carl_baldwin | If you plan to attend, book your travel and hotel. | 15:02 |
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| carl_baldwin | I’ll update the team page soon. | 15:03 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Bugs | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:04 | |
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| carl_baldwin | I have not seen any new bugs with tag l3-ipam-dhcp | 15:04 |
| carl_baldwin | Are there any bugs that need attention? | 15:04 |
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| carl_baldwin | How many do we have today from the DVR team? I’m not sure if Swami is planning to join. | 15:06 |
| * carl_baldwin thinks this might be a short meeting | 15:07 | |
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| carl_baldwin | #topic IPAM | 15:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "IPAM (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:07 | |
| matrohon | I'm just wanting to say that we are thinking about an alternative architecture for DVR | 15:07 |
| devvesa | hi, sorry for the late connection | 15:07 |
| carl_baldwin | #undo | 15:08 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Topic object at 0x23ea6d0> | 15:08 |
| carl_baldwin | matrohon: We’ll get to DVR in a bit. | 15:08 |
| matrohon | carl_baldwin : fine | 15:09 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic bgp-dynamic-routing | 15:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bgp-dynamic-routing (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:09 | |
| carl_baldwin | nextone, devvesa: hi | 15:09 |
| devvesa | hi | 15:09 |
| carl_baldwin | Since I know you’re hear we’ll do your topic first. | 15:09 |
| safchain | hi | 15:09 |
| carl_baldwin | Thanks for updating the bp. | 15:09 |
| devvesa | thanks for review it! | 15:10 |
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| carl_baldwin | I think it is almost ready. I just want to understand the first use case a little better. | 15:10 |
| devvesa | i think we have to discuss about the first use case, but I don't know if it has to be now | 15:10 |
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| devvesa | I have also started to develop the agent, and I have read exabgp and ryu speakers | 15:11 |
| devvesa | documentation. i find ryu much more easy and pythonic | 15:11 |
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| carl_baldwin | That is great. I have a bookmark on the comparison page. I’ll keep checking in. | 15:12 |
| carl_baldwin | Is the ryu speaker already in the tree or is that different? | 15:12 |
| devvesa | in the tree? | 15:12 |
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| carl_baldwin | In the neutron tree with the ryu code. | 15:13 |
| devvesa | oh, maybe it is | 15:13 |
| devvesa | i've just downloaded using pip and playing with it | 15:13 |
| yamamoto | thank you for trying ryu | 15:14 |
| devvesa | yamamoto: I might ask you for help :) | 15:14 |
| carl_baldwin | yamamoto: Thanks for suggesting it. It sounds like a promising option. | 15:14 |
| devvesa | also it has VPN advertisement. This is something that Nachi will appreciate in his bp | 15:14 |
| matrohon | we plan to test ryu for its VPN advertisment too | 15:15 |
| chuckC | bp link? | 15:15 |
| matrohon | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/93329/ | 15:16 |
| devvesa | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/neutron-bgp-vpn in launchpad | 15:16 |
| chuckC | thx | 15:16 |
| carl_baldwin | chuckC: Is that the bp you’re looking for or another? | 15:17 |
| chuckC | just the one being discussed | 15:17 |
| chuckC | yes | 15:17 |
| carl_baldwin | chuckC: They are linked from the subteam page. | 15:17 |
| carl_baldwin | There is also the bpg-dynamic-routing blueprint. | 15:17 |
| devvesa | oh, the one we are discussing is this one: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/bgp-dynamic-routing | 15:17 |
| matrohon | we also have of fork of exabgp which do VPN advertisment | 15:18 |
| matrohon | we will communicate on it soon | 15:18 |
| carl_baldwin | matrohon: Could you add a note to the comparison page? | 15:18 |
| yamamoto | matrohon: who is “we”? | 15:18 |
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| carl_baldwin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/BGPSpeakersComparison | 15:19 |
| matrohon | carl_baldwin : will do | 15:19 |
| carl_baldwin | matrohon: Great. | 15:19 |
| carl_baldwin | devvesa: We’ll discuss the use case offline. Is there anything else? | 15:20 |
| devvesa | nothing else | 15:20 |
| matrohon | yamamoto : me and my colleagues at Orange. But we might consider using ryu | 15:20 |
| keshava-hp | BGP Ipv6 peering is not supported by quagga ? | 15:20 |
| keshava-hp | this will be main issue w.r.t quagga then ? | 15:21 |
| carl_baldwin | keshava-hp: I’m not sure. It might be blank because no one who has editted the table has experience with that aspect of quagga. | 15:21 |
| keshava-hp | OK | 15:22 |
| carl_baldwin | In my mind, the biggest issue with quagga will be integrating it and running it in an isolated namespace. I’ve had some diffiiculty with it myself. | 15:22 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic l3-high-availability | 15:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "l3-high-availability (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:23 | |
| carl_baldwin | safchain: hi | 15:23 |
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| carl_baldwin | I know it has been a while. | 15:23 |
| safchain | carl_baldwin, hi | 15:23 |
| carl_baldwin | I have read over your blueprint and I think it is ready to merge. | 15:23 |
| carl_baldwin | Do you have any other cores looking at it? | 15:24 |
| safchain | carl_baldwin, thx for reviews, not yet | 15:24 |
| armax | safchain: I’ll have a look | 15:24 |
| safchain | armax, thx | 15:24 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: ^ | 15:24 |
| carl_baldwin | armax: thanks. | 15:24 |
| carl_baldwin | I’d like to encorparate it in my DVR testing. | 15:25 |
| carl_baldwin | safchain: Anything else? | 15:25 |
| safchain | I think I will have some dependencies with the l3 dvr ext | 15:25 |
| safchain | probably I will rebase my work on the new l3 extra attr class | 15:26 |
| carl_baldwin | safchain: That is worth a try to see what conflicts may come up. | 15:26 |
| safchain | carl_baldwin, yes, currently reviewing the l3 dvr ext | 15:27 |
| keshava-hp | How about DVR impacts on L3-High availability ? NAT session impact Highavailbality ? | 15:27 |
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| safchain | keshava-hp, I need to check | 15:28 |
| carl_baldwin | keshava-hp: It has been on our minds for some time. | 15:28 |
| armax | keshava-hp, carl_baldwin: I think it’s still early to understand the full implications | 15:28 |
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| carl_baldwin | armax: I agree. It has been on ours minds though. :) | 15:29 |
| keshava-hp | how about fragemented packet handling w.r.t HA ? | 15:29 |
| keshava-hp | If before reassmeble complete if Active goes down how to recover that packet in Slave ? | 15:29 |
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| carl_baldwin | keshava-hp: Wouldn’t that be a fairly minor packet loss? | 15:31 |
| carl_baldwin | In the interest of time, we’ll move on if safchain doesn’t have anything else. | 15:31 |
| safchain | nothing else | 15:32 |
| carl_baldwin | safchain: thanks | 15:32 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic IPAM | 15:32 |
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| carl_baldwin | seizadi: ping | 15:32 |
| seizadi | Hi Carl | 15:32 |
| seizadi | I checked in the bp yesterday. I don't know if you saw it? | 15:33 |
| carl_baldwin | I have not seen it. | 15:33 |
| carl_baldwin | Can you provide a link? | 15:33 |
| carl_baldwin | roaet: ping | 15:33 |
| carl_baldwin | seizadi: ^ | 15:34 |
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| seizadi | Here are the 3 bp https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:%22Soheil+Eizadi%22+status:open,n,z | 15:34 |
| seizadi | This is the IPAM bp https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97967/ | 15:35 |
| carl_baldwin | seizadi: Thank you for posting that. I will have a look and add a few reviewers to it. | 15:36 |
| seizadi | This is implementation of 3rd party external IPAM https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97986/ | 15:36 |
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| carl_baldwin | Great. I look forward to reviewing it. | 15:36 |
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| carl_baldwin | seizadi: Anything else? | 15:36 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic l3-svcs-vendor-* | 15:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "l3-svcs-vendor-* (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:37 | |
| carl_baldwin | pcm_: hi | 15:37 |
| pcm_ | carl_baldwin: hi | 15:37 |
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| carl_baldwin | I saw your updates to the team page. Thanks for those. | 15:37 |
| carl_baldwin | Looks like you’ve updated your blueprint. | 15:37 |
| pcm_ | Updated BP spec. Pushed WIP code for community comments: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/96946/2 | 15:37 |
| carl_baldwin | pcm_: Did you get all that worked out from the other day? | 15:38 |
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| pcm_ | Yes, had more help on mocking w/side effects. Do have issues with UTs still though :( | 15:38 |
| * carl_baldwin can’t remember the details of what we were trying to work out. | 15:38 | |
| pcm_ | Some high level test cases are calling into database code, but no mocking for service driver, so failing. Need to figure out how to address. | 15:39 |
| carl_baldwin | Is there anything we can do to help out? | 15:40 |
| carl_baldwin | pcm_: ^ | 15:40 |
| pcm_ | Yeah, could use some ideas on how to deal with the issues. I can post on IRC later. | 15:40 |
| carl_baldwin | pcm_: Sounds good. I’ll be off and on a bit today with errands but should be on solid in the afternoon. | 15:41 |
| carl_baldwin | pcm_: Anything else? | 15:41 |
| pcm_ | It's purely a UT problem...stuff not mocked. | 15:41 |
| pcm_ | carl_baldwin: No, that's it for me! | 15:41 |
| carl_baldwin | pcm_: Thanks. | 15:42 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic neutron-ovs-dvr | 15:42 |
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| carl_baldwin | armax: hi. I don’t see Swami on. Anyone else on? | 15:42 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: hi | 15:42 |
| armax | I spoke with Swami yesterday | 15:42 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: he’s going to be back online beginning of next wek | 15:43 |
| armax | s/wek/week | 15:43 |
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| carl_baldwin | okay | 15:43 |
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| carl_baldwin | I had another quick review of the extension code last night. I think you’ve tagged all of my major concerns with FIXME comments. | 15:44 |
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| armax | carl_baldwin: yes | 15:44 |
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| carl_baldwin | I think there are enough that I would feel funny merging with the fixmes not addressed. | 15:45 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: to some degree it might make sense to address them as separate fixes | 15:45 |
| carl_baldwin | I plan to get this patch running again on my systems and start working testing it out through the API. | 15:45 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: they does not necessarily mean that the patch should merge at it is | 15:45 |
| armax | but the fixes could be rebased on top of the base one | 15:46 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: I did some basic manual testing, jenkins and 3rd party seems to be happy | 15:46 |
| carl_baldwin | armax: right. Existing tests seem to be okay. | 15:47 |
| armax | and the whole point of the way the code has been rearranged was to minimize the impact on existing functionality | 15:47 |
| armax | far more than it was before | 15:47 |
| carl_baldwin | True. Good work there. | 15:47 |
| armax | that said, the odd one out is always behind the corner ;) | 15:47 |
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| carl_baldwin | I was thinking about trying it in my system to see if I can hit the code paths where I’m still confused. | 15:48 |
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| carl_baldwin | It might become more clear to me what the code *should* be doing and allow me to provide more insightful feedback. | 15:49 |
| carl_baldwin | That is where I was thinking of going until Swami gets back. | 15:49 |
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| armax | carl_baldwin: I did try the ‘distributed’ path | 15:49 |
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| armax | at least from an API functional standpoint things behave the way they should | 15:50 |
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| armax | I am planning on writing tempest tests | 15:50 |
| armax | those don’t need multi-host deployment | 15:50 |
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| armax | carl_baldwin: I got a draft, and I should be able to push it shortly | 15:50 |
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| carl_baldwin | armax: very nice | 15:50 |
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| armax | then I am syncing with marun to do functional testing in-tree | 15:51 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: so watch this space ;) | 15:51 |
| armax | armax: I have nothing else to add | 15:52 |
| matrohon | armax : by the way, do you know the status of mult-host testing in the gate | 15:52 |
| armax | matrohon: I am afraid I don’t | 15:52 |
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| carl_baldwin | matrohon: I don’t know the status either. | 15:52 |
| matrohon | ok, that is something we plan to work on too, when we will have time :( | 15:52 |
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| matrohon | I just wanted to speak about an alternative DVR architecture that we are thinking about : | 15:53 |
| matrohon | https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YiC-S1g3J7D8WLg9k4ZQKyrV4oMy4ELpGA2wJcBUKV4/edit | 15:53 |
| chuckC | doc requires permission? | 15:53 |
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| matrohon | this is only a draft for the moment, but if you have thoughs, please comment it | 15:54 |
| carl_baldwin | matrohon: I cannot get to the doc now but will visit it later. | 15:54 |
| armax | matrohon: doc’s permissions prevent me from accessing it | 15:54 |
| carl_baldwin | Google Drive “The app is currently unreachable" | 15:54 |
| carl_baldwin | Now I’m past that and to the permissions problem. | 15:55 |
| matrohon | I'm not the doc owner, but permission should be ok | 15:56 |
| matrohon | we already have sharedv it with other folks like safchain | 15:56 |
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| carl_baldwin | I’ve requested access but that is all I can do for now. I’ll check back later. | 15:56 |
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| carl_baldwin | Anything else on DVR? | 15:57 |
| matrohon | carl_baldwin : thanks, we will make it totally public | 15:57 |
| carl_baldwin | Please stick to the reviews. We need quick reviewer turn-around on these. | 15:57 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Open Discussion | 15:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:58 | |
| carl_baldwin | Thanks, everyone. Keep it up! | 16:00 |
| carl_baldwin | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 5 16:00:11 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2014/neutron_l3.2014-06-05-15.00.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2014/neutron_l3.2014-06-05-15.00.txt | 16:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2014/neutron_l3.2014-06-05-15.00.log.html | 16:00 |
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| pcm_ | bye | 16:01 |
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| davidlenwell | #startmeeting refstack | 16:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 5 16:59:39 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is davidlenwell. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:59 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'refstack' | 16:59 |
| coolsvap | hello | 17:00 |
| davidlenwell | Hello coolsvap | 17:01 |
| sarob | Yellow | 17:01 |
| zehicle_in_air | o/ | 17:01 |
| davidlenwell | roll call? | 17:01 |
| catheri1 | hello | 17:01 |
| rockyg | o/ | 17:01 |
| * sarob still lurking | 17:01 | |
| * zehicle_in_air has hard stop at :20 | 17:02 | |
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| davidlenwell | Good morning everyone .. I want to appologize in advance .. I didn't get home from vegas last night until 4am .. | 17:02 |
| zehicle_in_air | but did you win? | 17:02 |
| rockyg | I thought that was your excuse *last* week;-) | 17:02 |
| davidlenwell | I did | 17:02 |
| davidlenwell | anyways .. with zehicle_in_air on a plane and me exausted ... I thought we'd keep in short and sweet | 17:03 |
| davidlenwell | agenda: specs, f2f, open discussion | 17:03 |
| rockyg | ++ | 17:03 |
| zehicle_in_air | +1 (esp w/ f2f | 17:03 |
| davidlenwell | exactly | 17:04 |
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| davidlenwell | So im a little behind .. my vacation was extended a few days.. my brother and I won big at craps and the casino gave us a free suite .. so I really haven't worked all week . | 17:05 |
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| zehicle_in_air | you were able to unblock the review queue, which was great | 17:05 |
| davidlenwell | yes I did do that before I left | 17:06 |
| zehicle_in_air | are there items that should go in before the f2f? | 17:06 |
| zehicle_in_air | sorry.... back to specs | 17:06 |
| davidlenwell | well I think that specs are all we need to think about landing | 17:06 |
| davidlenwell | and they'll land when they are finished with review | 17:07 |
| rockyg | is anyone following rally spec(s)? I saw they released. Wondering if their gui for test setup might work with us. | 17:07 |
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| * zehicle_in_air parking lot > Dell is putting two people full time onto refstack work. We can talk about work for them at the F2F | 17:07 | |
| davidlenwell | rockyg: .. it might .. I'll review their specs before f2f | 17:07 |
| rockyg | zehicle_in_air stuff is great in that it focuses where other projects aren't and provide good visuals | 17:08 |
| zehicle_in_air | thanks | 17:08 |
| rockyg | Catheri1 should review and fill in connectors, maybe? | 17:08 |
| zehicle_in_air | rockyg, I think DefCore discussion from yesterday will help with that | 17:08 |
| catheri1 | thx | 17:08 |
| rockyg | Yes | 17:08 |
| catheri1 | once your review that I can go on to write the actually API spec | 17:09 |
| zehicle_in_air | if people are OK w/ my direction so far, I'll compelte the specs before the F2F | 17:09 |
| catheri1 | then we can start coing | 17:09 |
| davidlenwell | I'm good with your direction zehicle_in_air | 17:09 |
| davidlenwell | catheri1: I'll review today | 17:09 |
| rockyg | Yup. | 17:10 |
| catheri1 | I also found out a few things when looking at Tempest master for my other spec | 17:10 |
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| rockyg | Been following the admin tests separation spec in QA. Making comments for us. | 17:10 |
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| catheri1 | I confirm that the test name as used on the core test JSON is not unique | 17:11 |
| davidlenwell | uh oh | 17:11 |
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| ewindisch_ | o/ | 17:11 |
| zehicle_in_air | really?! | 17:11 |
| rockyg | Is it if more tree is provided? | 17:11 |
| catheri1 | yes | 17:11 |
| catheri1 | here is the example | 17:11 |
| zehicle_in_air | are you only looking in the coretest.json file? If so, that could be a transcription error | 17:12 |
| catheri1 | some of the test were first coded in compute.admin (path).. now they move the test to say volume and use the same test method name | 17:12 |
| zehicle_in_air | HOWEVER, the DefCore is likely to make a change the combines the coretest and capabilities json files | 17:12 |
| * zehicle_in_air sad face. oh, that's not the easy case I was hoping for | 17:12 | |
| zehicle_in_air | catheri1, I would consider that a tempest bug | 17:13 |
| catheri1 | so far I am looking at all the Tempest API test (test has increase from 1296 to about 2500) | 17:13 |
| zehicle_in_air | bug = issue to resolve oin that project | 17:13 |
| davidlenwell | zehicle_in_air: +1 | 17:13 |
| * zehicle_in_air looking forward to when we have OVER 9000 | 17:13 | |
| catheri1 | I am not sure it is a bug because tempest testid is a full path ID | 17:13 |
| rockyg | Problem is, in most test frameworks, capabilities are directories above tests, so tests can have identical names but different paths | 17:13 |
| davidlenwell | but the path to each test is unuiqe.. so im sure we can some with something | 17:14 |
| catheri1 | I am preparing a couple spreadsheet | 17:14 |
| zehicle_in_air | ah, davidlenwell may be onto solution | 17:14 |
| zehicle_in_air | not a problem to include /path/testname | 17:14 |
| catheri1 | we can discuss that on f2f for both DefCore and Rfstack | 17:14 |
| davidlenwell | yes | 17:14 |
| rockyg | Yeah, you need fully qualified name | 17:14 |
| zehicle_in_air | as long as it's in the results | 17:14 |
| davidlenwell | lets table that for the f2f | 17:14 |
| davidlenwell | #topic f2f | 17:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "f2f (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 17:15 | |
| coolsvap | davidlenwell: when is the f2f planned? | 17:16 |
| fcarpenter | Weds June 11 | 17:16 |
| davidlenwell | coolsvap: Wed Jun 11, 2014 12pm – 6pm | 17:16 |
| davidlenwell | at the piston office | 17:17 |
| davidlenwell | which is at 126 post st in downtown sf | 17:17 |
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| fcarpenter | 126 Post St, 5th Floor, San Francisco, CA, 94108 | 17:17 |
| davidlenwell | thanks fcarpenter | 17:17 |
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| zehicle_descendi | I think we had an etherpad for the agenda | 17:17 |
| davidlenwell | looks like we're loosing zehicle_descendi | 17:17 |
| coolsvap | davidlenwell: I wanted to know if there is any plan for web meeting/hangout like stuff? | 17:17 |
| davidlenwell | coolsvap: we can set up a hang out | 17:18 |
| rockyg | should have it. | 17:18 |
| davidlenwell | if we are not local | 17:18 |
| zehicle_descendi | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack.2014-06-11 | 17:18 |
| davidlenwell | er.. you are not local | 17:18 |
| ewindisch_ | I presume it’s open? | 17:18 |
| davidlenwell | ewindisch_: indeed | 17:19 |
| rockyg | We should invite some Qa/Tempest folks and schedule a short discussion with them. and maybe rally? | 17:19 |
| davidlenwell | you're welcome to join us | 17:19 |
| rockyg | more the merrier | 17:19 |
| zehicle_descendi | The DefCore meeting the following day is open too | 17:19 |
| rockyg | gonna be a bear going to the city two days in a row. | 17:19 |
| zehicle_descendi | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DefCoreLighthouse.F2F | 17:19 |
| ewindisch_ | I’m busy (dockercon) on tuesday, but might be free Wednesday. | 17:19 |
| davidlenwell | great! | 17:20 |
| catheri1 | I thought DefCore f2f meeting is one day before Refstack f2f | 17:20 |
| zehicle_descendi | catheri1, after | 17:20 |
| davidlenwell | docker already has its own con | 17:20 |
| davidlenwell | ? | 17:20 |
| ewindisch_ | davidlenwell: yeah - but offtopic ;-) | 17:20 |
| zehicle_descendi | DefCore is Thursday | 17:20 |
| davidlenwell | indeed .. sorry .. distractable when Im tired | 17:20 |
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| zehicle_descendi | ewindisch_, your dockerstack talk looks interesting | 17:21 |
| catheri1 | another topic is for refstack.org to allow for cloud customized parameter input | 17:21 |
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| davidlenwell | catheri1: lets also save that for the f2f | 17:22 |
| zehicle_descendi | re: DefCore on Thurs. Let's officially NOT have this meeting next week | 17:22 |
| davidlenwell | yes | 17:22 |
| rockyg | good point. Add to the f2f agenda? | 17:22 |
| catheri1 | +1 add that to the f2f agenda | 17:22 |
| davidlenwell | +1 on that | 17:22 |
| rockyg | ++ | 17:22 |
| ewindisch_ | +1 | 17:23 |
| davidlenwell | alright everyone.. if nobody has anything important to discuss before then I move we end early | 17:23 |
| catheri1 | also rockyg:'s spreadsheet ... for f2f discusion | 17:23 |
| * zehicle_descendi stowing my laptop now.... | 17:23 | |
| rockyg | seconded and catheri1, yes. | 17:24 |
| davidlenwell | okay.. thanks everyone!! see you next week .. lets keep those specs rolling in | 17:24 |
| rockyg | ttfn | 17:24 |
| davidlenwell | if you need anything from me just leave me a note in #refstack | 17:24 |
| davidlenwell | #endmeeting | 17:25 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 5 17:25:02 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:25 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2014/refstack.2014-06-05-16.59.html | 17:25 |
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| rkukura | GPers around? | 18:01 |
| s3wong | hmm... GBP meeting still on today? | 18:01 |
| prasadv | rkukura: Yes | 18:01 |
| marun | hi | 18:01 |
| mandeep | rkukura: prasadv: s3wong: hi | 18:01 |
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| s3wong | I know SumitNaikstam is off, but not sure who is the temp chair | 18:02 |
| rkukura | I’ve neen asked to chair today | 18:02 |
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| s3wong | rkukura: cool | 18:02 |
| rkukura | Sumit is busy with a new baby! | 18:02 |
| rkukura | #startmeeting networking_policy | 18:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 5 18:03:01 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rkukura. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:03 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_policy' | 18:03 |
| rkukura | #link agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron_Group_Policy | 18:03 |
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| rkukura | Not a lot on the agenda today, so hopefully a quick meeting | 18:04 |
| s3wong | rkukura: one can hope | 18:04 |
| banix | hi, sorry i am late | 18:04 |
| rkukura | banix: Just starting - Sumit is out so I am chairing today | 18:04 |
| banix | rkukura: sounds good | 18:04 |
| rkukura | #topic Gerrit Reviews | 18:05 |
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| rkukura | The new initial series of patches for the API, DB, and Plugin layers for EP, EPG, and L2/3 Policy resources are in review, links in the agenda | 18:06 |
| rkukura | I’m working on the next series, expecting to post the following: | 18:06 |
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| rkukura | These are all for the GroupPolicyMapping extension that adds the links to traditional neutron resources | 18:07 |
| rkukura | API and DB layer - hopefully today, cleaning up and adding more unit tests | 18:07 |
| rkukura | plugin layer with dummy driver - tomorrow | 18:07 |
| rkukura | Implicit L2/L3 policy resource driver - next week | 18:08 |
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| rkukura | Mapping driver - next | 18:08 |
| banix | there was a question by cgoncalves regarding the ML2 structure of the plugin and possibility of having multiple driver (that i missed on the ML unfortunately) | 18:08 |
| rkukura | next week | 18:08 |
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| rkukura | cgoncalves: Do you want to discuss this now? | 18:08 |
| s3wong | rkukura: so the implicit drivers will use python-client, right? | 18:08 |
| banix | rkukura: not a good time? | 18:09 |
| rkukura | banix: Now is fine - light agenda | 18:09 |
| banix | sure; thought it was related to reviews. | 18:09 |
| rkukura | s3wong: we agreed last week to use python-neutronclient for the mapping driver | 18:09 |
| rkukura | s3wong: we could for implicit resource driver, or could use direct plugin calls for that | 18:10 |
| banix | do we see having multiple drivers for group policy as the usage; i know the plugin is done so we can do it but in my thinking we will have mainly one driver from group policy for a given instance of OpenStack | 18:10 |
| rkukura | One use case for the ML2-like multiple driver support is having both the implicit resource and mapping drivers called | 18:10 |
| s3wong | rkukura: OK - just trying to see if the 'redirect' action needs to migrate to python-neutronclient as well | 18:11 |
| banix | do you guys see this differently? | 18:11 |
| banix | rkukura: i see | 18:11 |
| rkukura | s3wong: If that is acting on the firewall or router APIs, it should use the client library | 18:11 |
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| s3wong | rkukura: agreed | 18:12 |
| rkukura | Is there any valid use case for a deployment mixing multiple ways to enforce the policies? | 18:12 |
| banix | rkukura: not that i can think of | 18:13 |
| rkukura | We do support that kind of thing in ML2, with port binding determining which driver “controls” each port, but not sure if we could/should try to do something similar in GP | 18:13 |
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| mandeep | rkukura: There might be a difference between say the driver for managing the virtual resources (using vswitch) and physical resources (using a mech_driver) | 18:14 |
| banix | rkukura: that was my thinking as well. so the group policy driver is more like the firewall drivers of sec groups where you pick one and use it | 18:14 |
| mandeep | rkukura: I agree that we do need a binding like concept yet | 18:15 |
| rkukura | mandeep: Do you mean “do need” or “do not need”? | 18:15 |
| mandeep | rkukura: Ooops! I meant do not need ;-) | 18:15 |
| banix | that’s better :) | 18:15 |
| rkukura | Is everyone OK with keeping the list of drivers so we can package the implicit creation and mapping as separate drivers at least, even if we are not yet trying to support multiple concurrent drivers enforcing policy? | 18:16 |
| s3wong | rkukura: +1 | 18:16 |
| mandeep | Agreed | 18:16 |
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| banix | mandeep: you are saying we may need to drivers at the same time one for vswitches one for phys switches | 18:16 |
| rkukura | Not sure if cgoncalves is here? | 18:16 |
| banix | rkukura: sounds good | 18:17 |
| mandeep | banix: I was saying that there might be a use case where we split them that way (so we can get reuse for say OVS related driver) | 18:17 |
| rkukura | OK, lets go with that for now at least, and revisit it in the review if necessary | 18:17 |
| s3wong | banix: mandeep: probably too early to think about such use case | 18:18 |
| banix | ok | 18:18 |
| mandeep | banix: s3wong: Agreed that was potentially for later. For now, let us stay with distinction between generic functions and specific mapping. | 18:18 |
| rkukura | Lets keep up with the sub-team reviews on the patches that are already posted, and those coming over the next week | 18:19 |
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| rkukura | Would be nice if at least a couple were merged for juno-1, provided that the gate backlog issue gets resolved | 18:19 |
| rkukura | Anything else today on the topic of gerrit reviews? | 18:20 |
| rkukura | #topic Mapping attribute names | 18:21 |
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| rkukura | One question that came up as I’ve been cleaning up the mapping API patch for review is whether we want to stick with the “neutron_” prefix on the names of the attributes that map to neutron resources | 18:22 |
| rkukura | It strikes me as implying that the GP resources are not neutron | 18:22 |
| rkukura | But they do make it very clear that these are the mapped resources, and that “port” is refers spefically to a neutron port as opposed to a TCP/UDP port | 18:23 |
| rkukura | Anyone else share my concern on this, or should we stick with the current names? | 18:23 |
| marun | rkukura: Link to review? I'm afraid I'm playing catchup | 18:24 |
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| rkukura | marun: The new patch for the mapping API extension isn’t posted yet, but these are in the original PoC WIP patches | 18:24 |
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| marun | rkukura: ok, maybe I'll wait till you post it and I can see the context. | 18:25 |
| rkukura | marun: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/93935 | 18:25 |
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| rkukura | I’ll stick with the neutron_ names for the upcoming patches, and we can discuss this in the reviews if needed | 18:26 |
| marun | rkukura: sounds good | 18:26 |
| banix | i think using neutron_* is more to the point | 18:26 |
| banix | rkukura: yes, sure | 18:26 |
| marun | rkukura: I share your concern, though | 18:27 |
| rkukura | banix: I undestand that argument, and am happy with it | 18:27 |
| s3wong | rkukura: +1 | 18:27 |
| rkukura | we could call them “mapped_port”, “mapped_network”, … | 18:27 |
| marun | rkukura: given that all other extensions use 'network_id' rather than 'neutron_network_id', I'm not sure why gp should be an extension | 18:27 |
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| marun | rkukura: I mean, at the db level the field will be called network_id, yes? | 18:28 |
| rkukura | marun: Thats kind of my point - if its neutron, we know what network_id means | 18:28 |
| marun | grr | 18:28 |
| marun | that second extension -> exception | 18:28 |
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| marun | rkukura: Looking at it, I think it makes sense to remove the prefix | 18:29 |
| rkukura | Any other opinions on “port” vs. “neutron_port” vs. “mapped_port” vs. something else? | 18:29 |
| marun | and have multi-valued attributes reflect their relationship target. | 18:29 |
| marun | i.e. neutron_subnets -> subnet_ids | 18:29 |
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| marun | My vote would be for port_id | 18:30 |
| rkukura | marun: I think consistency with the other neutron API extensions is a prerry strong argument | 18:30 |
| marun | rkukura: +1 | 18:30 |
| rkukura | Anyone else have an opinion on this? | 18:30 |
| banix | considering that mapping is always mapping to neutron resources then removing the prefix should be ok | 18:31 |
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| mandeep | rkukura: marun: agreed | 18:32 |
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| mandeep | rkukura: marun: banix: agreed | 18:32 |
| rkukura | #agreed: remove the “neutron_” prefix from the port attributes, and include the “_id” suffix - i.e. “port_id” | 18:33 |
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| rkukura | #topic Open Discussion | 18:33 |
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| rkukura | That’s it for the agenda - anything else anyone wants to discuss today? | 18:34 |
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| s3wong | all good | 18:34 |
| rkukura | Sumit and I had an action to look into the IPv6 issue we discussed last week, but I don’t think any progress has been made on that, and its not too critical short term | 18:34 |
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| rkukura | Looks like I had an action to suggest renaming the implicit context driver - I haven’t come up with anything better - any ideas? | 18:36 |
| rkukura | Except replacing context with policy or resource, since we renamed L2/3 Context to L2/3 Policy ;) | 18:37 |
| rkukura | I think I’ll go with “implicit_resource_driver” if nobody objects | 18:38 |
| rkukura | Anything else for today’s meeting? Or are we done? | 18:38 |
| mandeep | rkukura: I think we are don early today! | 18:38 |
| rkukura | great! | 18:39 |
| rkukura | Thanks everyone! | 18:39 |
| banix | bye everybody | 18:39 |
| s3wong | amazing! | 18:39 |
| mandeep | bye | 18:39 |
| s3wong | it has been a while! | 18:39 |
| rkukura | #endmeeting | 18:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 18:39 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 5 18:39:26 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:39 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2014/networking_policy.2014-06-05-18.03.html | 18:39 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2014/networking_policy.2014-06-05-18.03.txt | 18:39 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2014/networking_policy.2014-06-05-18.03.log.html | 18:39 |
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