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| wpf | vkmc: ping | 01:11 |
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| vkmc | wpf, pong | 01:12 |
| wpf | vkmc: new name of Zaqar? | 01:12 |
| wpf | what does it mean , -:) | 01:13 |
| vkmc | wpf, yeah... earlier today we decided to change Naav for Zaqar | 01:13 |
| vkmc | it was Zaqar or TamTam | 01:13 |
| vkmc | it means.. | 01:13 |
| vkmc | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaqar | 01:14 |
| wpf | ah, got it , | 01:14 |
| wpf | thanks | 01:15 |
| vkmc | np | 01:15 |
| vkmc | do you like it or do you prefer Naav? | 01:15 |
| wpf | I remembered flwang told me that the Naav is the the river name somewhere | 01:16 |
| wpf | and from the Wiki, Zaqar is the messenger, so it should be more meaningful | 01:16 |
| wpf | I am just curious that how you find the name, go through the dictionary and oh this one is ok ? ^^ | 01:18 |
| vkmc | haha | 01:21 |
| vkmc | we had a couple of meetings to decide the new name for the project | 01:22 |
| vkmc | we brainstormed in an etherpad | 01:22 |
| vkmc | and well, lots of things came up there... under the effects of coffee and gummybears | 01:23 |
| wpf | yes, I can imagine that | 01:23 |
| vkmc | I'm heading off for dinner o/ | 01:24 |
| wpf | go ahead | 01:25 |
| wpf | thanks | 01:25 |
| wpf | flwang: ping | 01:30 |
| flwang | wpf: yes | 01:31 |
| wpf | is there a tape for the IRC chat history ? , I want to go through | 01:31 |
| flwang | tape? | 01:31 |
| wpf | not sure how so say it , I just want to go through the chat log of some day | 01:32 |
| flwang | for meeting channel, I think there is, but as for the other channels, I don't know | 01:33 |
| wpf | Ok, got it ,seems that the IRC client can write them into the log file | 01:35 |
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| prashanthr_ | wpf: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-marconi/ | 04:45 |
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| prashanthr_ | here is the daily log of the irc chat history | 04:45 |
| prashanthr_ | i guess this is what you are looking for | 04:45 |
| wpf | prashanthr_: exactly ! Thanks | 04:45 |
| prashanthr_ | welcome :) | 04:46 |
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| prashanthr_ | flwang, wpf: Can you please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97178/ whenever you are free ? | 04:52 |
| wpf | I will try , ^^ | 05:00 |
| flwang | prashanthr_: yes, it's on my list | 05:02 |
| flwang | and we will make it happen in J-3 | 05:02 |
| prashanthr_ | flwang: thank you ! :) Sure. | 05:03 |
| prashanthr_ | when's the deadline for J-3 ? | 05:03 |
| flwang | 4/9 | 05:04 |
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| flaper87 | o/ | 06:13 |
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| flaper87 | flwang: around? | 06:27 |
| flaper87 | flwang: are you working on the sqla thing? | 06:27 |
| flwang | flaper87: o/ | 06:29 |
| flwang | flaper87: yes, if you want to pick, i'm ok | 06:29 |
| flaper87 | flwang: if you're working on it now, then that's fine. | 06:30 |
| flaper87 | we'd like to get those done asap | 06:30 |
| flaper87 | I'm asking because you mentioned you don't have enough bandwith | 06:30 |
| flwang | flaper87: ah, I mean I don't have TOO much bandwidth | 06:31 |
| flaper87 | flwang: as in, you're not busy ? | 06:31 |
| flwang | flaper87: but I assume it's a small change. maybe just add a check, to see if the uri scheme is in the expected list | 06:31 |
| flwang | flaper87: oh, come on | 06:32 |
| flaper87 | :P | 06:32 |
| * flaper87 is messing w/ flwang | 06:32 | |
| flwang | flaper87: I have to take care a lot of different stuff, since now the team is very small | 06:32 |
| flwang | I'm not the guy working at IBM | 06:32 |
| flaper87 | flwang: so, we'd like to get it done today/tomorrow | 06:32 |
| flaper87 | any chance you can get it done? | 06:32 |
| flaper87 | it's a matter of removing un-used code | 06:33 |
| flwang | I can submit a patch today | 06:33 |
| flwang | removing? | 06:33 |
| flaper87 | flwang: the sqlalchemy data driver should go away | 06:33 |
| flaper87 | we'd like to keep *just* the control-api | 06:33 |
| flwang | I see | 06:34 |
| flaper87 | flwang: so, can you do it? | 06:35 |
| flaper87 | :D | 06:35 |
| flwang | I will try to submit a patch today, but I can't grantee it | 06:35 |
| * flaper87 has freak mode on | 06:35 | |
| flaper87 | flwang: in that case, would you mind if I take it? | 06:35 |
| flaper87 | I can work on that now | 06:35 |
| flwang | flaper87: fine | 06:35 |
| flaper87 | flwang: coooooool | 06:36 |
| flaper87 | I'll review your health patch asap | 06:36 |
| flwang | ok, thanks | 06:36 |
| wpf | prashanthr_: ping | 06:37 |
| prashanthr_ | wpf: Hello | 06:43 |
| prashanthr_ | I just slept off on my desk :) | 06:43 |
| wpf | I'd review your PS, and sorry for -1 | 06:44 |
| wpf | -:) | 06:44 |
| wpf | I am not familiar with Redis, I believe it works, anyway, there are some comments , ^^ | 06:46 |
| flaper87 | wpf: don't be sorry about -1, authors should thank for -1 :) | 06:46 |
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| prashanthr_ | wpf: Yes as flaper87 says happy for -1's | 06:46 |
| prashanthr_ | :) | 06:46 |
| wpf | ;) | 06:46 |
| prashanthr_ | thanks a lot for reviewing bcaz more reviews -> lesser bugs and faster check in's | 06:47 |
| * prashanthr_ Will be happy to see his code in the repo :) | 06:47 | |
| wpf | anytime | 06:47 |
| prashanthr_ | and of course more bugging of flaper87 ;) | 06:47 |
| flaper87 | wait what? | 06:47 |
| flaper87 | I'm not even here | 06:47 |
| prashanthr_ | he he more reviews-> more bugging of flaper87 ;) | 06:48 |
| flaper87 | prashanthr_: who are you talking to? Who's that flaper87 ? | 06:48 |
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| flaper87_ | that's me | 06:49 |
| flaper87_ | ;) | 06:49 |
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| flaper87 | LOL | 06:49 |
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| wpf | a newbie question, I always saw there are some 'actions' or 'emotion' you do in the IRC, is there a guide for such things? | 06:52 |
| wpf | what I am saying are those lines start with a '*' in the left side | 06:55 |
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| prashanthr_ | wpf: yes | 06:58 |
| prashanthr_ | you can use the "/me : message" | 06:58 |
| prashanthr_ | then you can see the expressions/opinions kind of messages we post | 06:58 |
| prashanthr_ | try it now | 06:58 |
| * wpf learn new skills from prashanthr_ | 06:59 | |
| prashanthr_ | wpf: Yaaaaaay :) | 06:59 |
| wpf | it works | 06:59 |
| prashanthr_ | more of such commands here | 06:59 |
| prashanthr_ | http://www.ircbeginner.com/ircinfo/ircc-commands.html | 06:59 |
| wpf | great, Thanks prashanthr_ | 06:59 |
| prashanthr_ | no problems | 06:59 |
| prashanthr_ | btw great catch about the _exists function | 06:59 |
| prashanthr_ | saves a real o(n) operation | 07:00 |
| prashanthr_ | which will be a real pain when the size of the queue grows :) | 07:00 |
| wpf | hmm , I forgot what I found ..... | 07:00 |
| * prashanthr_ Applauds wpf :) | 07:00 | |
| wpf | :) | 07:02 |
| prashanthr_ | wpf: It is about checking if a message exists before raising an exception or fetching the message | 07:03 |
| prashanthr_ | which could be done by fetching the message directly :) | 07:03 |
| wpf | yes, I remembered it at last | 07:03 |
| prashanthr_ | wpf: can you explain to me this comment | 07:07 |
| prashanthr_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97178/12/marconi/queues/storage/redis/options.py | 07:07 |
| prashanthr_ | ? | 07:08 |
| prashanthr_ | the second one in the file | 07:08 |
| wpf | do we need the () for the 'help' value? | 07:08 |
| wpf | to concatenate the mulit-line string literal? | 07:09 |
| prashanthr_ | aahh yes we do. | 07:10 |
| wpf | that's fine | 07:11 |
| prashanthr_ | wpf: Can u explain to me how to use marconi.i18n in place of from marconi.openstack.common.gettextutils import _ | 07:17 |
| prashanthr_ | ? | 07:17 |
| wpf | from marconi.i18n import _ | 07:18 |
| prashanthr_ | that's all is the change ? | 07:18 |
| wpf | yes | 07:18 |
| wpf | we use the oslo.i18n now | 07:19 |
| wpf | and marconi.i18n wrap it | 07:20 |
| prashanthr_ | great :) | 07:24 |
| wpf | if you are working on the next comment on 'msg_expired_filter', please notice that I just add another comment for it , you can refresh it , -:) | 07:26 |
| prashanthr_ | wpf: Saw it :) | 07:28 |
| prashanthr_ | I have given all the reviewers enough nightmares with my documentation | 07:29 |
| prashanthr_ | and NOTE's :P | 07:29 |
| prashanthr_ | especially kgriffs|afk and vkmc | 07:29 |
| prashanthr_ | :P | 07:29 |
| wpf | ha | 07:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Prashanth Raghu proposed a change to openstack/marconi: Implements Queue,Message and Claims Controllers for Redis https://review.openstack.org/97178 | 07:38 |
| wpf | so fast! | 07:39 |
| prashanthr_ | wpf: Ha ha yes :) I actually finished my thesis work requirement for my master's program | 07:40 |
| prashanthr_ | so totally free now | 07:41 |
| wpf | Congratulation! | 07:42 |
| wpf | computer science? | 07:42 |
| prashanthr_ | wpf: thank u :) Just waiting for my presentation dates now. | 07:43 |
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| wpf | those in China already graduate from college, :P | 07:45 |
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| prashanthr_ | wpf: Sorry did not get you | 07:48 |
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| wpf | I mean that colleges in China already graduated about one month ago | 07:52 |
| wpf | and what's your major? | 07:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Flavio Percoco proposed a change to openstack/marconi: Remove sqlalchemy's DataDriver https://review.openstack.org/110871 | 08:00 |
| prashanthr_ | wpf: Actually I was supposed to graduate as well | 08:02 |
| prashanthr_ | delayed due an independent thesis work i chose | 08:02 |
| prashanthr_ | my major is "Wireless Sensors and Internet of things" | 08:03 |
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| flaper87 | AAzza: there? | 08:13 |
| flaper87 | you may want to take a look here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/marconi-graduation | 08:13 |
| flaper87 | (especially where your nickname is :P) | 08:13 |
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| AAzza | flaper87: yeap, looking. | 08:55 |
| wpf | flaper87: I saw you remove the sqlalchemy related code , but we still default the sqlite when marconi starting , will that be affected? | 09:05 |
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| flaper87 | wpf: still working on it, I think we'll need a better road for this | 09:13 |
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| prashanthr_ | flaper87: Jenkins is failing for your patch | 09:25 |
| flaper87 | yeah I know | 09:25 |
| flaper87 | considering another approach | 09:25 |
| flaper87 | we need to follow a deprecation path, we can't just remove it all together | 09:26 |
| prashanthr_ | okay was just curious because most cases were failed so thought there must be a problem with jenkins | 09:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Flavio Percoco proposed a change to openstack/marconi: Mark sqlalchemy's data driver as deprecated https://review.openstack.org/110883 | 09:29 |
| flaper87 | prashanthr_: wpf ^^^^ This one | 09:29 |
| prashanthr_ | flaper87: okay :) | 09:31 |
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| vkmc | good morning! | 11:47 |
| flaper87 | vkmc: morning | 11:50 |
| flaper87 | why can't ppl have decent opened wireless spots? | 11:50 |
| flaper87 | They're all slow... I mean, if you're going to leave it open, you should at least make sure it's fast enough | 11:51 |
| flaper87 | :P | 11:51 |
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| vkmc | lol | 11:52 |
| vkmc | I hear you | 11:52 |
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| vkmc | I'm going through Marconi docs to find the right place to put the marconi.conf guide | 12:23 |
| flaper87 | vkmc: holy shit, how did you do that? | 12:23 |
| flaper87 | I was exactly writing that | 12:24 |
| vkmc | where do we host the user guide? or we don't? | 12:24 |
| vkmc | lol | 12:24 |
| vkmc | this are the developers docs http://docs.openstack.org/developer/marconi/ | 12:24 |
| flaper87 | I wanted to know whether you could tackle those now or later | 12:24 |
| vkmc | yup I'm tacking that now :p | 12:24 |
| flaper87 | awesome, thanks | 12:24 |
| flaper87 | yeah, iuugh, those docs need love | 12:25 |
| flaper87 | vkmc: best thing to do is contact anne | 12:25 |
| vkmc | flaper87, already did :) | 12:25 |
| flaper87 | pls, get back with your findings :D | 12:25 |
| vkmc | I'm waiting for her reply | 12:25 |
| flaper87 | vkmc: have I told you how amazing you are? | 12:25 |
| vkmc | aww, you are amazing too flaper87 | 12:26 |
| vkmc | anyhow, I'm a bit worried that the developer docs have things more related to user than the developer | 12:27 |
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| vkmc | I hope Anne can give me some information about what they expect the developer guide and user guide have to graduate | 12:28 |
| flaper87 | yeah, I'm afraid that's the case :( | 12:28 |
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| flaper87 | let me know if we need to organize an all-hands doc day | 12:28 |
| vkmc | sure, I'll let you know later today | 12:28 |
| vkmc | I'm checking out the docs wiki, it's a good starting point https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/HowTo#What_Docs_Go_Where.3F | 12:30 |
| flaper87 | +1 | 12:31 |
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| vkmc | well it looks like the docs are a blocker for graduation | 13:13 |
| vkmc | https://github.com/openstack/governance/blob/master/reference/incubation-integration-requirements.rst#documentation--user-support-1 | 13:13 |
| vkmc | we have to put those in order | 13:13 |
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| flaper87 | vkmc: oh yeah, they are. How bad is our status? | 13:15 |
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| vkmc | we are not that bad because most of the docs are in the wiki | 13:16 |
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| vkmc | for the user we require docs for the API use only (we don't have a CLI and integration with the Dashboard yet) | 13:17 |
| flaper87 | vkmc: gtk, how much work do you think we have left to do? Is that something we can estimate? | 13:17 |
| flaper87 | (in 5) | 13:17 |
| flaper87 | (in %) | 13:17 |
| vkmc | installation and configuration docs, we have them | 13:17 |
| vkmc | well, in addition to add the configuration files docs we have to migrate some docs in the wiki to the user guide | 13:18 |
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| vkmc | is hard to estimate | 13:18 |
| vkmc | but I'm optimistic | 13:18 |
| * vkmc avoids saying numbers :p | 13:21 | |
| flaper87 | ok, lets put it this way. Is that something we can tackle in a 1 all-hands documentation day ? | 13:24 |
| flaper87 | doc-squashing day | 13:24 |
| flaper87 | although squashing is not exactly what we want to do | 13:24 |
| flaper87 | :P | 13:24 |
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| vkmc | flaper87, it is yes | 13:26 |
| flaper87 | ok, cool | 13:26 |
| flaper87 | lets schedule that next week | 13:26 |
| flaper87 | vkmc: since you've dug into this, do you want to send the email? | 13:27 |
| flaper87 | I can send it if you prefer | 13:27 |
| vkmc | flaper87, I can do that, I'll add some day alternatives | 13:28 |
| flaper87 | vkmc: awesome | 13:28 |
| flaper87 | lets gather more info and send that email today | 13:28 |
| vkmc | will do that | 13:29 |
| flaper87 | thanks, thanks, thanks thanks | 13:29 |
| vkmc | I'll stub out what needs to be done so we can divide work | 13:29 |
| malini1 | o/ | 13:29 |
| malini1 | holaaa!! | 13:29 |
| vkmc | hola malini! :) | 13:29 |
| flaper87 | malini1: hola caracola | 13:30 |
| malini1 | ok..what is caracola | 13:31 |
| malini1 | ? | 13:31 |
| vkmc | jaja | 13:31 |
| mpanetta | Sounds like a drink :P | 13:31 |
| flaper87 | oh my dear lord, I broke everything | 13:32 |
| mpanetta | flaper87: What ya go and do that for? | 13:32 |
| flaper87 | malini1: caracola is snail but that greeting is common in spanish | 13:33 |
| flaper87 | malini1: http://mymemory.translated.net/t/Spanish/English/hola%20caracola | 13:33 |
| * flaper87 is not saying malini1 is a snail | 13:33 | |
| flaper87 | (just in case) | 13:33 |
| flaper87 | :P | 13:33 |
| flaper87 | mpanetta: I DON'T KNOW | 13:33 |
| mpanetta | hah | 13:34 |
| flaper87 | I think I'm just dumb | 13:34 |
| mpanetta | http://www.sabercurioso.es/wp-content/caracola.jpg | 13:34 |
| malini1 | It might not be a bad thing to a snail | 13:34 |
| mpanetta | flaper87: You? Dumb? No way man. | 13:34 |
| malini1 | As long as I don't end up in somebody's pasta, i.e. | 13:34 |
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| mpanetta | Oh pretty: http://caracolasdecoleccion.es/ | 13:35 |
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| vkmc | in some latin american countries people eat those :x | 13:36 |
| flaper87 | https://twitter.com/flaper87/status/494809898346377216 | 13:36 |
| vkmc | ew | 13:36 |
| flaper87 | not just latin-america, trust me | 13:36 |
| flaper87 | I... would never... | 13:36 |
| flaper87 | iuugh | 13:36 |
| flaper87 | :P | 13:36 |
| mpanetta | Hey, you never know, they might be tasty! | 13:37 |
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| * vkmc shivers | 13:37 | |
| mpanetta | flaper87: Damnit, you and your beautiful pics of the lake | 13:37 |
| flaper87 | mpanetta: people say they are | 13:37 |
| vkmc | nope nope nope | 13:37 |
| flaper87 | I don't want to know | 13:37 |
| malini1 | vkmc: its just a matter of what you are conditioned to think of as food | 13:37 |
| flaper87 | mpanetta: for you it's a pic, for me it's my current view | 13:37 |
| mpanetta | Looks so much like Lugano... | 13:37 |
| * flaper87 wants to make mpanetta more jealous | 13:38 | |
| mpanetta | Damn you :P | 13:38 |
| malini1 | thanks flaper87! I have a ugly brown door right infront of my eyes | 13:38 |
| vkmc | malini1, yeah, I guess it's a matter of getting used to it | 13:38 |
| flaper87 | malini1: you could put the picture I just shared there | 13:39 |
| mpanetta | haha too bad we don't have an inkjet plotter in the office. | 13:39 |
| malini1 | flaper87: so it can remind what a wonderful view you have? | 13:39 |
| flaper87 | malini1: exactly | 13:41 |
| flaper87 | this will help reminding you how good the coffee is here: https://twitter.com/flaper87/status/494840166625058816 | 13:41 |
| flaper87 | one problem, I'm running out of battery | 13:41 |
| flaper87 | damn | 13:41 |
| flaper87 | :P | 13:41 |
| flaper87 | I'll have to go back to my cave | 13:42 |
| malini1 | bwahahahahaaa | 13:42 |
| flaper87 | or sit in a roof-top bar ;) | 13:42 |
| mpanetta | Doh | 13:42 |
| flaper87 | on | 13:42 |
| mpanetta | Why must you tease us so mercilessly flaper87? | 13:43 |
| flaper87 | because I want the best for you all | 13:43 |
| flaper87 | ok, that didn't help,right? | 13:43 |
| flaper87 | damn.. because I love you all ? | 13:43 |
| mpanetta | Ok, so you will send us plane tickets to your home? :P | 13:43 |
| sriram | just read all the meeting logs… | 13:43 |
| flaper87 | mmh, ok ok, what about this one: Because one day, we'll do a mid-cycle meetup here | 13:43 |
| * sriram phew | 13:43 | |
| malini1 | sriram: our new leader is boosting the team morale now | 13:44 |
| sriram | flaper87: \m/ | 13:44 |
| sriram | awesome. | 13:44 |
| sriram | btw good morning all :) | 13:45 |
| mpanetta | I wonder how much plane tix to italy are :P | 13:45 |
| mpanetta | morning sriram :) | 13:45 |
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| prashanthr_ | Good morning all :) | 13:52 |
| mpanetta | morning prashanthr_ | 13:53 |
| prashanthr_ | mpanetta: Hello :) | 13:53 |
| AAzza | hi, all morning people | 13:56 |
| flaper87 | AAzza: 'sup girl ? | 13:59 |
| flaper87 | how ya doing? | 13:59 |
| flaper87 | did you go through the etherpad? | 13:59 |
| AAzza | flaper87: yeap, trying to run benchmarking tool in loop and produce some results. | 14:00 |
| AAzza | flaper87: for now thinking about storing all results to file and drawing plots with gnuplot as it is easiest way to start | 14:02 |
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| AAzza | flaper87: not sure in what way it should be done, but will start with `anything working` and then will discuss together | 14:04 |
| AAzza | flaper87: it is hard to kill perfectionist inside, that do not like to do `anything working`:-( | 14:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Victoria Martínez de la Cruz proposed a change to openstack/python-marconiclient: Adds extra info about python-marconiclient and usage instructions https://review.openstack.org/110972 | 14:06 |
| AAzza | btw, other openstack project afaik don't use netiher gnuplot nor matplotlib, all i saw is generation of html page that draws plots using js | 14:07 |
| AAzza | but we should start with smth and first agree on what and how should be plotted) | 14:08 |
| AAzza | either i'm talking to myself or inet is broken | 14:08 |
| malini1 | AAzza: Rally folks might be already doing this | 14:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Victoria Martínez de la Cruz proposed a change to openstack/python-marconiclient: Adds extra info about python-marconiclient and usage instructions https://review.openstack.org/110972 | 14:13 |
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| AAzza | malini1: yes, they are doing (and it is they who use mako templates -> html +js for drawing), but i'm not sure why we decided to write our tool and thus don't know what and how to use. | 14:19 |
| AAzza | last task is was to write simple working piece of code) | 14:19 |
| malini1 | AAzza: The reason we started writing our own was because rally didnt support distributed loadgens etc - need to generate the volume of traffic we need | 14:20 |
| malini1 | But the intent all along has been to merge this with rally whenever hey are ready | 14:20 |
| prashanthr_ | AAzza: Do we need to do anything to enable the redis tests in gate ? | 14:23 |
| AAzza | malini1: thanks for explanation, will look on their approach and maybe try to use similar formats\ideas to be at most compatible | 14:23 |
| vkmc | bbl | 14:24 |
| AAzza | prashanthr_: not sure what to do in particular, but know that mongodb tests are disabled, and it looks that now redis also, need to ask someone | 14:24 |
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| prashanthr_ | Sure. | 14:25 |
| prashanthr_ | i have really shallow knowledge on the testing code base of marconi | 14:25 |
| AAzza | malini1: maybe you know? redis tests for prashanthr_ driver is turning on the same ways as mongodb - via env variable. how to make them run on the gate? | 14:26 |
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| malini1 | AAzza: Does redis come default in the gating linux images? | 14:27 |
| malini1 | Trusty/ Precise/ CentOS6 | 14:28 |
| malini1 | Or does it have to be installed? | 14:28 |
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| AAzza | malini1: should be installed afaik | 14:29 |
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| kgriffs | sriram: ping | 14:35 |
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| kgriffs | flaper87: btw, the 1:1 incubated project sync today with ttx has been canceled. | 14:44 |
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| kgriffs | sriram: I need to find out the status on benchmarking hardware | 14:45 |
| kgriffs | brb | 14:45 |
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| malini1 | AAzza: sorry had to step away for a meeting | 14:49 |
| malini1 | AAzza: if it is available in the default image with the right version you need, it is straight forward | 14:50 |
| malini1 | If it does not come with the default image, we might have a problem | 14:50 |
| malini1 | Infra does not like to install anything on top of default images, except python packages | 14:51 |
| malini1 | Try pinging #openstack-infra in tht case | 14:51 |
| AAzza | malini1: i believe it is available and what to do if everything is ok? | 14:55 |
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| kgriffs | AAzza: looks like prashanthr_ put an env variable flag to enable redis tests | 14:56 |
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| AAzza | kgriffs: yeah, flag) | 14:57 |
| kgriffs | I think once we have mongo and redis available in the gate with the appropriate permissions, we should just remove those flags and devs will need to run localhost redis and mongo when testing their own patches. test all the things all the time. :p | 14:57 |
| kgriffs | that's my $0.02 anyway | 14:57 |
| kgriffs | we can keep the flags until Kilo and remove in k-1 | 14:58 |
| kgriffs | have to see what flaper87 thinks, but that's my suggestion | 14:58 |
| AAzza | kgriffs: totally agree about that) it is always sad, when run local tests with mongo enaibled and find out that it is broken for sometime:) | 15:00 |
| kgriffs | sad indeed. :( | 15:00 |
| sriram | kgriffs: pong | 15:01 |
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| kgriffs | sriram: o/ | 15:01 |
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| kgriffs | AAzza: i made a related bug for future reference. https://bugs.launchpad.net/marconi/+bug/1350068 | 15:02 |
| kgriffs | sriram: did you see my email? | 15:02 |
| sriram | The webheads have two vcpus, 4gb ram, 160gb disk, and 400meg network. | 15:02 |
| sriram | kgriffs: no | 15:02 |
| sriram | let me check | 15:02 |
| kgriffs | sriram: so they are virtual, not bare metal? | 15:03 |
| sriram | not bare metal | 15:03 |
| kgriffs | sriram: how many boxes total, and what roles? | 15:04 |
| sriram | 4 webheads, 1 ha proxy load balancer 1 mongo replica set | 15:04 |
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| sriram | one sec, let me gather all the info | 15:04 |
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| sriram | catalog replica set(3)is similar, the mongo replica set(3) is 4vcpus, 8gig ram, 320gig disk and 600meg network | 15:07 |
| sriram | the haproxy instance is two vcpus, 4gb ram, 160gb disk, and 400meg network. | 15:08 |
| sriram | in total 1 + 4 + 3 + 3, 11 boxes | 15:08 |
| sriram | kgriffs: ^ | 15:08 |
| sriram | I added performance tweaks, from your gist. | 15:10 |
| kgriffs | ok, that sounds good. Would you mind making a rough diagram of that? https://www.draw.io/ | 15:11 |
| sriram | sure, give me a moment | 15:12 |
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| kgriffs | you can export to png and upload to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Performance_Testing_(Marconi) | 15:12 |
| kgriffs | that would be awesome | 15:12 |
| sriram | will do kgriffs | 15:12 |
| prashanthr_ | Hi, I just need a small help | 15:13 |
| prashanthr_ | pyredis stores a dictionary into the db | 15:13 |
| prashanthr_ | as a string | 15:13 |
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| prashanthr_ | and when it is retrieved back it is a python string | 15:13 |
| prashanthr_ | so i planned to conert it into a dict type | 15:13 |
| prashanthr_ | using the ast library | 15:13 |
| kgriffs | sriram: ok, cool. so those machines are ready to go? do we also have some load generation box(es)? | 15:14 |
| prashanthr_ | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/988228/converting-a-string-to-dictionary | 15:14 |
| prashanthr_ | is it okay to do this ? | 15:14 |
| kgriffs | prashanthr_: can you paste/gist example? | 15:14 |
| prashanthr_ | Sure | 15:14 |
| sriram | prashanthr_: eval will help, but its DANGEROUS. on converting a string to dict | 15:15 |
| kgriffs | prashanthr_: i would benchmark to see if msgpack is faster. it is safer | 15:15 |
| kgriffs | (as sriram points out re safety) | 15:15 |
| prashanthr_ | I have used msgpack now :) | 15:15 |
| prashanthr_ | to store the messages | 15:15 |
| sriram | kgriffs: they are operational, we dont have load generation boxes though | 15:15 |
| prashanthr_ | but this is for the queue metadata | 15:16 |
| prashanthr_ | will try using msgpack for it as well | 15:16 |
| kgriffs | prashanthr_: yeah, that would be my preference. If someone managed to inject some python code into the db and re read that back and eval'd, that would be A Bad Thing™ | 15:17 |
| kgriffs | sriram: ok, so next steps | 15:17 |
| prashanthr_ | kgriffs: Sure. that's why asked it before the implementation :) | 15:17 |
| prashanthr_ | thank you | 15:17 |
| kgriffs | sounds good | 15:18 |
| kgriffs | btw, i have been reviewing your patch, just need to submit my comments so far. I may do it it batches so you get feedback faster | 15:18 |
| kgriffs | prashanthr_: one thing real quick is when using unpackb | 15:19 |
| kgriffs | set encoding='utf-8' | 15:19 |
| kgriffs | and in packb | 15:19 |
| kgriffs | use_bin_type=True | 15:19 |
| prashanthr_ | sure kgriffs. I was doing the latter | 15:19 |
| prashanthr_ | now will add the former as well | 15:19 |
| kgriffs | yeah, thing is if you don't set encoding, it won't properly decode six.text_type | 15:20 |
| kgriffs | like | 15:20 |
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| kgriffs | six.text_type ---> packb(use_bin_type=True) ---> unpackb() ---> six.binary_type | 15:21 |
| kgriffs | booh | 15:21 |
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| kgriffs | but if you set encoding | 15:22 |
| kgriffs | then you get back out six.text_type | 15:22 |
| prashanthr_ | this is really useful ! Did not know that. | 15:22 |
| kgriffs | PITA, but I rest my case | 15:22 |
| kgriffs | prashanthr_: I learned the hard way. :p | 15:22 |
| kgriffs | prashanthr_: one other tiny tip is that if you create the encoder and decoders before hand in the class __init__ or something you can get a little performance boost | 15:23 |
| kgriffs | msgpack.Packer | 15:23 |
| kgriffs | msgpack.Unpacker | 15:23 |
| kgriffs | that's because unpackb and packb instantiate those classes on the fly under the covers | 15:24 |
| kgriffs | not a huge perf boost, but thought it was worth mentioning | 15:24 |
| kgriffs | sriram: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/marconi-scratch | 15:24 |
| kgriffs | sriram: let's make a list of TODO | 15:24 |
| sriram | ok | 15:24 |
| prashanthr_ | definitely. so i instantiate the classes and store them as private class variables ? | 15:25 |
| prashanthr_ | kgriffs: i guess every call to the library will save one level of lookup :) which could impact performance. | 15:26 |
| kgriffs | only thing is I'm not sure if those things are thread safe... but we generally recommend people deploy using multiple single threads, and using green thread monkey patches to get async i/o (although at some point we will need to do some extra work to get py3k async) | 15:28 |
| kgriffs | in fact, we should add that to the user guide | 15:28 |
| kgriffs | hmm... I wonder if the GIL prevents any badness from happening even when running a server in multithread mode | 15:29 |
| kgriffs | anyway, it's best practice with WSGI apps to do single-threaded procs in most cases, so it isn't like we are asking anything outrageous | 15:29 |
| sriram | asyncio for the win. | 15:33 |
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| prashanthr_ | Have a great day all :) | 15:44 |
| prashanthr_ | me going to rest for the day | 15:44 |
| prashanthr_ | will upload the latest patch early tomorrow morning | 15:44 |
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| sriram | be right back | 15:48 |
| kgriffs | prashanthr_: thanks! I will continue reviewing | 15:50 |
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| sriram | kgriffs: looks good | 15:53 |
| kgriffs | sriram: let's do 3 load gen boxes | 15:56 |
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| kgriffs | malini1, flaper87|afk: FYI we will need redis >= 2.6 in the gate since that is when Lua scripting landed. looks like trusty has 2.8, so we are good there. | 16:53 |
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| kgriffs | bbl (lunch) | 17:01 |
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| flaper87 | what about precise? | 17:06 |
| flaper87 | malini1: have you had a chance to contact -infra guys about mongodb? | 17:08 |
| * flaper87 is almost done with sqlalchemy | 17:08 | |
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| malini1 | flaper87: I did not..Looks like we need to chk if marconi jobs can be allocated trusty | 17:27 |
| malini1 | tht will solve our mongo & redis issues | 17:27 |
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| malini1 | So I just chked with infra | 17:32 |
| malini1 | It looks like it the witch over to Trusty is fairly easy | 17:33 |
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| malini1 | But we need someone to first confirm tht our unit/functional tests will run ok in Trusty | 17:33 |
| malini1 | Can somebody volunteer to do tht? | 17:33 |
| malini1 | We need to verify the mongo/redis tests too | 17:33 |
| malini1 | I can get you a trusty server, if somebody can do the verification | 17:36 |
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| kgriffs | malini: I can help if you point me in the right direction. | 18:31 |
| malini1 | kgriffs: we need to verify that all our tests can run in trusty | 18:31 |
| malini1 | including the mongo & redis(if any) | 18:31 |
| kgriffs | meaning, devstack? | 18:32 |
| kgriffs | i mean, shall I run it with devstack? | 18:32 |
| malini1 | no..just the plain old unit tests | 18:32 |
| malini1 | the tests that run with py26, py27 | 18:32 |
| malini1 | http://logs.openstack.org/83/110883/1/check/gate-marconi-python26/16c9ed3/ | 18:32 |
| malini1 | the tests against devstack are tempest tests, which are already on Trusty | 18:33 |
| kgriffs | ah, ok | 18:33 |
| kgriffs | rackspace cloud server work OK? | 18:33 |
| malini1 | yes | 18:33 |
| kgriffs | I'm on it | 18:33 |
| malini1 | thanks kgriffs! | 18:34 |
| malini1 | I also need some feedback on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102883/ | 18:34 |
| malini1 | This is to turn on mongo for our devstack/tempest tests | 18:34 |
| malini1 | the comment for this one was | 18:35 |
| malini1 | 'I'm conceptually good with this, I do think before merging though we need a more concrete error message for the case where the distro provided mongodb is too old, so it's not all cryptic if people run master on precise.' | 18:35 |
| malini1 | I don't know how we shud handle this | 18:35 |
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| malini1 | It sounds like we need to eval the mongo DB version & provide the user with an error message | 18:35 |
| kgriffs | yep | 18:36 |
| kgriffs | the driver should do that. we should actually have a standard mechanism for all drivers to abort if the version is not supported | 18:36 |
| kgriffs | flaper87: ^^^ | 18:36 |
| malini1 | so probably we can do this in the devstack script | 18:36 |
| kgriffs | malini: mmm, we could. how does that compare to doing it in code? | 18:36 |
| malini1 | kgriffs: if we can do it easily in the code, tht will be the best option | 18:37 |
| malini1 | I just wasn't sure if we could | 18:37 |
| * flaper87 reads | 18:37 | |
| kgriffs | sure. we can check and log an error. maybe raise a custom exception type so the bootstrap can abort gracefully | 18:38 |
| flaper87 | kgriffs: agreed, I had a similar thought today while working on the sqlalchemy datadriver deprecation | 18:38 |
| malini1 | flaper87: can you take care of tht? Tht will help us push the devstack mongodb patch along | 18:39 |
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| flaper87 | malini1: yes | 18:48 |
| flaper87 | I'll finish the work on merging metadata back into the queue | 18:48 |
| flaper87 | and then do that | 18:48 |
| flaper87 | pls, there are some patches to review | 18:48 |
| flaper87 | :D | 18:48 |
| kgriffs | flaper87: have you updated the v1.1 spec yet? | 18:49 |
| malini1 | thanks flaper87!! I will follow up on the devstack patch after the mongo version chk | 18:49 |
| kgriffs | (re metadata) | 18:49 |
| flaper87 | kgriffs: was going to do that after submitting the patch | 18:49 |
| kgriffs | kk, just wanting to make sure that didn't slip through the cracks | 18:49 |
| flaper87 | malini1: awesome, thanks. | 18:49 |
| flaper87 | kgriffs: make sure you remind me that after the patch hits gerrit | 18:49 |
| flaper87 | I'm sure I'll forget | 18:50 |
| flaper87 | :P | 18:50 |
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| vkmc | kgriffs, hi Kurt! I chatted with annegentle earlier today, I asked her what we needed for graduate and she gave me this link https://github.com/openstack/governance/blob/master/reference/incubation-integration-requirements.rst#documentation--user-support-1 | 19:09 |
| vkmc | kgriffs, I checked the documentation we have and we are missing some things | 19:09 |
| vkmc | kgriffs, I didn't ask annegentle to review our docs yet because I thought it was better if we work on adding the changes we know we are missing and then ask her to review all of them | 19:10 |
| kgriffs | ok | 19:10 |
| vkmc | kgriffs, what do you think? | 19:10 |
| kgriffs | sounds like a plan | 19:10 |
| vkmc | I'm writting a list of the missing documentation with a structure to organize a all hands docs day | 19:10 |
| kgriffs | ok, sounds good. we can rally to get it done. | 19:11 |
| kgriffs | flaper87: ^^^ | 19:11 |
| vkmc | but first I wanted to check with you if you prefer Anne to review the current status of our docs first | 19:11 |
| kgriffs | vkmc: let's do what we know we are missing. and plan one more day to address anything we missed after Anne's review | 19:11 |
| flaper87 | kgriffs: awesome | 19:11 |
| vkmc | kgriffs, sounds good | 19:11 |
| flaper87 | kgriffs: vkmc and myself were talking earlier today about organizing a docs-squashing day next week | 19:12 |
| flaper87 | she'll probably send an email later today | 19:12 |
| * flaper87 keeps talking as vkmc weren't here | 19:12 | |
| flaper87 | :P | 19:12 |
| * vkmc waves | 19:12 | |
| vkmc | :p | 19:12 |
| kgriffs | vkmc: can you add some notes to the etherpad? | 19:13 |
| kgriffs | also, do we need blueprints/or bugs created flaper87? | 19:13 |
| flaper87 | vkmc: pls, do send that email today so that folks will read it tomorrow and prepare themselves for next week | 19:13 |
| kgriffs | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/marconi-graduation | 19:13 |
| flaper87 | I saw one for docs today, I may be confused though | 19:14 |
| flaper87 | I checked earlier today and I think we've all actions covered | 19:14 |
| flaper87 | unless I missed some | 19:14 |
| vkmc | kgriffs, sure, do you want me to add what we need to add and the workflow to do it? | 19:14 |
| flaper87 | vkmc: if we can make it on monday, it would be great. otherwise, whatever day works best for other folks | 19:14 |
| vkmc | flaper87, sure I'll send that email today | 19:15 |
| vkmc | flaper87, I was thinking on Wednesday... we have the meeting on Monday and probably everyone will want to work on they blueprints | 19:15 |
| flaper87 | vkmc: ok, sounds good | 19:15 |
| flaper87 | I'll be in a conference but I'll do it from there for sure | 19:16 |
| vkmc | plus meetings and other items on theirs agenda | 19:16 |
| flaper87 | vkmc: if you break it into bullets, we can get ppl to pick some | 19:16 |
| vkmc | flaper87, oh... are you leaving on Monday? | 19:16 |
| vkmc | flaper87, sure I'm doing that | 19:16 |
| flaper87 | vkmc: Tuesday | 19:16 |
| flaper87 | I'll attend our meeting | 19:16 |
| vkmc | flaper87, and run away | 19:17 |
| vkmc | :p | 19:17 |
| flaper87 | naah, just the day after | 19:17 |
| flaper87 | :P | 19:17 |
| vkmc | haha it's ok | 19:17 |
| flaper87 | gtg guys | 19:18 |
| vkmc | flaper87, o/ take care caracolo | 19:18 |
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| cpallares | vkmc: I would like to help with the docs :) | 19:21 |
| vkmc | cpallares, \o/ | 19:21 |
| vkmc | \o) | 19:21 |
| vkmc | (o/ | 19:21 |
| cpallares | )o( | 19:21 |
| kgriffs | that would be awesome cpallares if you can help! | 19:22 |
| vkmc | cpallares, that would be awesome | 19:22 |
| vkmc | fortunately most of what it needs to be in the developer guide is in the wiki | 19:22 |
| vkmc | and our current developer guide should be transformed in the user guide | 19:23 |
| cpallares | lol | 19:23 |
| cpallares | okay | 19:23 |
| kgriffs | btw, don't worry about documenting the api v1.1 | 19:23 |
| kgriffs | we aren't going to officially release that until k-1 or k-2 | 19:23 |
| vkmc | kgriffs, cool :) | 19:23 |
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| vkmc | I'll add details in the etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/marconi-graduation | 19:25 |
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| kgriffs | malini: btw, I am running tox on ubuntu 14.04 now | 19:51 |
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| kgriffs | bleh, having trouble with lxml - must be a dep of some module | 20:07 |
| kgriffs | trying to install the right ubuntu packages, stand by... | 20:07 |
| kgriffs | ok, working now | 20:12 |
| kgriffs | enabling mongo tests | 20:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/marconi: Correct the test instructions in README https://review.openstack.org/108905 | 22:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kurt Griffiths proposed a change to openstack/marconi: Fixes several failing mongo driver tests https://review.openstack.org/111111 | 23:04 |
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