Wednesday, 2014-06-11

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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/marconi: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/9903301:32
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/python-marconiclient: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/9909301:37
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sriramGood morning! :)12:50
vkmcmorning sriram :)12:51
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sriramhey vkmc, how are you doing? :)12:52
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flaper87GOOOD MORNING!12:57
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sriramGood morning flaper87 :)12:59
flaper87how are you doing? sriram12:59
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flaper87sriram: marconiclient was released yday13:00
sriramflaper87: woohoo!! :D13:00
* sriram celebrates13:00
sriramflaper87: I have some questions with regards to lazy queue creation.13:00
* flaper87 steps out, closes the door and RUNS AWAY REALLY FREAKING FAST13:01
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flaper87sriram: ok ok, don't be sad. Shoot13:01
sriramif changing stuff at storage layer breaks 1.0 api, does everything need to be at transport?13:02
vkmcgood morning flaper87!13:02
sriramhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/91804/6/marconi/queues/storage/mongodb/messages.py13:02
vkmcall good sriram, and you?13:02
flaper87vkmc: good morning13:02
sriramI changed my patch to not check if a queue exists.13:02
flaper87vkmc: how are you doing?13:03
sriramvkmc: I'm doing really awesome, saw a movie called 'The Campaign', It was a laugh riot.13:03
vkmcsriram, nice! :D13:04
vkmcI'll google it later13:04
sriramsure!13:05
vkmcI'm without Internet since yesterday and it's being a pain in the neck (I'm connected with 3G right now)13:05
flaper87sriram: commented13:05
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abettadapuroh i never saw the campaign, but will ferrel is a funny guy13:06
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sriramflaper87: ok, I'll move stuff up to the transport layer.13:08
sriramhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/91804/6/marconi/queues/storage/mongodb/queues.py -> as well correct?13:09
sriramflaper87: ^13:09
srirambut wont moving stuff up to the transport layer have performance tradeoffs?13:10
flaper87sriram: not in this case, you're moving the same exact call `queues.exists`13:11
flaper87I'm not super happy with it but it's indeed an API detail13:12
sriramalright, so we would need to queue.exists at the API layer, and then create a queue otherwise.13:12
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vkmcsriram, why are you changing the resp_status here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/91804/6/marconi/queues/transport/wsgi/v1_1/messages.py?13:31
sriramI felt that it made more sense, but after the discussion we had yesterday in the meeting.13:33
sriramwe agreed on a 204 correct?13:33
* flaper87 clicks13:33
flaper87ah yeah, we agreed on keeping 20413:34
flaper87and fuck v1.0 inconsistency13:34
vkmclol13:34
* flaper87 NEVER said that13:34
sriramI can change it back, no worries :P13:34
sriramvkmc: ^13:34
vkmcsriram, haha np13:35
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alcabreragood morning, all. :)13:51
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malini1heyy alcabrera!!13:52
alcabrerahey, malini1! How are you?13:52
malini1alcabrera: good..it seems like ages since we talked!13:52
alcabreraoh yeah. It has been - I think 2 weeks now, aside from small exchanges via IRC> :)13:53
sriramalcabrera: hey :D what's up?13:55
alcabrerasriram: just catching up on morning email/news/twitter at the moment. aside from that, I've started working on a blog post about dependent types. :D13:56
cpallaresalcabrera, malini1, sriram: o/13:56
alcabreracpallares: hey!13:57
malini1cpallares: hello!!13:57
sriramalcabrera: nice13:57
vkmcmorning alcabrera, malini1, cpallares!13:57
sriramcpallares: hello :)13:57
alcabreravkmc: good morning. :)13:58
malini1morning (is it?) vkmc!13:58
cpallaresvkmc: hi! :D13:58
vkmcmalini1, it is!13:58
malini1good :)13:59
* cpallares wonders if malini1 is the real malini13:59
cpallares:P13:59
alcabrerait is the 1 malini, cpallares.13:59
alcabrerathe 1 true malini13:59
sriramcpallares: its her, alright, I can hear her furiously typing :P13:59
alcabreraif we saw malini2, I'd be concerned14:00
malini1malini1 is the more chatty version ;)14:00
malini1malini2 showed up y'day :D14:00
alcabrerahaha14:02
cpallareshahaha14:02
sriramlol14:03
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openstackgerritSriram Madapusi Vasudevan proposed a change to openstack/marconi: Implement Lazy Create Queue in v1.1 API  https://review.openstack.org/9180414:16
sriramflaper87: removed most changes at storage layer, all moved up to transport.14:18
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alcabrerahey, all. I found this module that's pretty awesome: https://github.com/radix/effect14:21
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malini1& its a python package!!!!14:26
malini1you surprised me alcabrera :D14:26
alcabrerahaha, malini114:27
alcabreraI try to keep an open mind. :)14:27
sriramits very interesting.14:27
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alcabreraIt even mentions the use of Free as an interpreter of effects. I was impressed by the documentation!14:28
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abettadapuralcabrera: looking for heat templates, find a minecraft one :D14:37
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alcabreraabettadapur: hahaha, that's one way to HEAT things up. :P14:38
alcabreraso crafty14:38
alcabrerabut look out14:38
alcabreraa creeper may explode your project14:38
abettadapurohoho :)14:39
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malini1alcabrera: I remember you using something to compare performance b/w mongo queries.what was it?14:43
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alcabrerahmmmm14:43
alcabrerawait14:43
alcabrerait's coming to me14:43
alcabreraI had to instrument the code14:43
malini1come come come14:43
alcabrerawith mongo's explain14:43
alcabrerafunction14:43
alcabreraon a cursor14:43
alcabreraand pretty-printing the output14:44
alcabrerait was the most manual thing I'd done that month. :P14:44
alcabreralike testing if something works as expected with print()s. :D14:44
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srirammalini1: http://docs.mongodb.org/manual/tutorial/analyze-query-plan/14:44
sriramthis might help14:44
malini1cool :)14:45
malini1thanks sriram, alcabrera!14:45
malini1this is exactly what I need14:45
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sriramhey all, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/91804/ , Can i get some reviews on this, I've addressed the concerns.14:55
kgriffssriram: no way14:57
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kgriffssriram: sure thing!14:57
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alcabreras/no way/no way I'd miss out on reviewing that14:57
alcabrera;)14:57
sriram:D14:58
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abettadapurkgriffs: ping15:25
kgriffso/15:25
abettadapurhi! I have a question about your comment https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97534/5/marconi/tests/queues/transport/wsgi/v1_1/test_claims.py,unified15:26
abettadapuron line 12615:26
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kgriffssure thing15:26
abettadapurwhen someone claims messages, there is no echo parameter (at least according to the wiki spec)15:26
abettadapuri believe the client just claims what it can, regardless of client-id, or am i mistaken?15:27
kgriffsoops, sorry, I got my wires crossed15:27
kgriffsJust replace "claim" in my comment with "list"15:27
abettadapurok great. thanks :)15:28
kgriffssriram: hey, I posted some comments on your patch...15:29
kgriffsbut...15:29
sriramkgriffs: oh thanks, I'll take a look.15:29
kgriffsactually, nevermind15:29
kgriffslet me double-check something before I complete that "but"15:30
sriramwrt tests, I'm waiting for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97534/ to land.15:30
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kgriffskk15:31
kgriffsabettadapur: ^^^15:32
abettadapurkgriffs: yep. testing and git reviewing now15:32
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kgriffssriram, malini1: BTW, I copied the v1.0 response codes page for v1.115:35
kgriffshttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Marconi/specs/api/v1.1/responsecodes15:35
kgriffsAs we make changes, it would be great if you could help me update this page15:36
kgriffssriram: case in point: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Marconi/specs/api/v1.1/responsecodes15:36
kgriffsL22215:36
openstackgerritAlex Bettadapur proposed a change to openstack/marconi: Decoupled Unit Tests  https://review.openstack.org/9753415:36
abettadapurkgriffs, sriram: ^15:36
kgriffsthanks!15:37
flaper87abettadapur: I added some comments to PS515:38
sriramkgriffs: I added some comments to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/91804/15:40
sriramkgriffs: noted, will make changes to the wiki page.15:40
abettadapurflaper87: thanks15:40
srirambbl lunch.15:48
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vkmcbbl lunch :)16:06
kgriffsflaper87: I know qpid supports TLS, right? But what about authentication?16:09
flaper87kgriffs: there's basic authentication16:12
flaper87user/passwrd16:12
kgriffsok16:13
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kgriffsflaper87: first draft of the security Q & A for marconi16:16
kgriffshttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Security/Juno/Marconi16:16
kgriffsI think we can put off most "potential improvements" until K16:17
kgriffsthe one thing that is bugging me is the crc32 thing16:17
kgriffspossibly a Denial-of-Service attack vector, but even so it is probably low risk16:18
* flaper87 clicks16:18
flaper87kgriffs: btw, thanks for writing all that down16:19
kgriffsmy pleasure16:19
kgriffsI'm sure I missed some things; feel free to edit the page16:19
kgriffsflaper87: btw, it is hard to break the habit of saying "SSL"16:20
kgriffs:p16:20
kgriffshttp://pyvideo.org/video/2651/the-sorry-state-of-ssl16:20
flaper87hahah yeah, it definitely is. years years of misnaming TLS16:20
flaper87kgriffs: he's going to keyonte EuroPython with that presentation16:21
kgriffssweet16:21
kgriffsI'll make sure this q & A is linked from our home page16:22
flaper87kgriffs: not sure we should mention the sqlalchemy driver removal16:26
flaper87it's not relevant for the security discussion, I guess16:26
flaper87kgriffs: btw, I'm kind of having second thoughts about that16:27
flaper87I mean, about removing it16:27
kgriffsoh16:27
flaper87the reason is that you may not use sqlalchemy to bake the queues but you can still use to manage Naav16:28
flaper87for example, keep track of the pools configuration16:28
kgriffsI can leave it out. I just mentioned it because it is relevant to attack surface16:28
kgriffsflaper87: good point16:28
flaper87which is a fair use case. Someone may want to use the already deployed mysql for that16:28
flaper87and leave mongodb alone to manage the queues data16:28
kgriffswe may want to modify pools so the catalog is always sqlalchemy16:28
kgriffsand not coupled with the data plane driver16:29
flaper87Yeah. We can pull out the data specific code and just keep the control drivers16:29
kgriffsalthough, that means one more thing for people to deploy16:29
flaper87Lets leave the choice to the admins16:30
kgriffsbut I do think we need to decouple the driver models16:30
kgriffswe should have control drivers and data drivers16:30
flaper87I totally agree with that16:30
flaper87we already have the logic separate16:30
flaper87but under the same driver16:30
kgriffsflaper87: as soon as we have specs set up we can submit this idea. ;)16:31
flaper87kgriffs: +116:31
flaper87(but lets not get rid of sqlalchemy just yet)16:31
kgriffskk16:31
kgriffsI will remove that note from the wiki16:32
kgriffsalcabrera: do you know the status on this? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/marconi/+spec/redis-storage-driver16:33
alcabrerahmmm16:37
alcabreralast I heard, prashanth had working queue/messages/claim support16:38
alcabreraI'm not entirely sure, though16:38
alcabreraand there's a few patches I need to check up on in the review queue16:38
alcabrerakgriffs: ^16:38
alcabrera*queues/messages support16:39
alcabrerano claims yet16:39
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alcabreraI'll be reviewing prashanth's patches by tomorrow morning16:39
alcabreraprior to the gsoc/opw meeting16:39
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kgriffsoh, ok17:12
kgriffsI will move the bp to j-2 then since sounds like it still needs claims17:13
kgriffsflaper87: FYI: ^^^17:13
kgriffsit would be good to benchmark the basic (non-pooled) driver17:13
* flaper87 reads17:13
flaper87ok, good to know17:13
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sriramkgriffs: ping, so wrt to change in mongodb/queues.py . That change was brought in when the lazy queue create logic was in storage.17:25
sriramit can perhaps be reverted to original methodology, if we are moving lazy queue logic to transport.17:25
sriramI'll get to work and submit another patch.17:25
openstackgerritAlex Bettadapur proposed a change to openstack/marconi: Decoupled Unit Tests  https://review.openstack.org/9753417:27
abettadapurkgriffs, sriram: ^ incorporates flaper86 's changes17:27
sriramabettadapur: will take a look, thanks!17:27
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openstackgerritSriram Madapusi Vasudevan proposed a change to openstack/marconi: feat(benchmarking) : Producer-Consumer scenario  https://review.openstack.org/9887517:45
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openstackgerritSriram Madapusi Vasudevan proposed a change to openstack/marconi: Implement Lazy Create Queue in v1.1 API  https://review.openstack.org/9180418:25
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kgriffssriram, abettadapur, flaper87, alcabrera, malini: I could use some eyes on this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/67978/19:05
kgriffsabettadapur: commented https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97534/19:06
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sriramkgriffs: I had looked at this earlier, it seemed good. let me recheck19:12
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malini1kgriffs|afk: ping19:20
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openstackgerritAlex Bettadapur proposed a change to openstack/marconi: Decoupled Unit Tests  https://review.openstack.org/9753419:35
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flaper87And we now have one for storage drivers too19:45
flaper87https://github.com/FlaPer87/cookiecutter-marconi-storage19:45
flaper87alcabrera: kgriffs all ^19:45
flaper87it should.... work19:45
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openstackgerritSriram Madapusi Vasudevan proposed a change to openstack/marconi: Implement Lazy Create Queue in v1.1 API  https://review.openstack.org/9180420:20
openstackgerritSriram Madapusi Vasudevan proposed a change to openstack/marconi: Implement Lazy Create Queue in v1.1 API  https://review.openstack.org/9180420:23
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vkmc_kgriffs, when is J-1 cutted?20:56
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kgriffsI was hoping to do it today, but may have to wait until tomorrow to get the test and lazy queue patches merged20:56
kgriffsvkmc: the three patches at the top here are the ones I'd like to get in if possible: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/marconi,n,z20:57
kgriffsgotta run to a mtg... ttfn20:57
vkmckgriffs, k, ttfn!20:57
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kgriffsflwang: if you have a chance, it would be great to get some reviews on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97534/22:59
kgriffsand22:59
kgriffshttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/67978/22:59
kgriffsthanks in advance!22:59
flwangkgriffs: sure23:00
flwangkgriffs: I'm sorry for my poor performance on code review recently :(23:00
kgriffsthanks. we have quite a backlog so I've been encouraging everyone to get back into the habit of reviewing stuff. :)23:01
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flwangkgriffs: haha, sure, I was busy recently due to the move23:02
flwangkgriffs: but yes, I'm not far away :)23:03
kgriffsthat's a good excuse. :)23:03
flwangkgriffs: thanks for the understanding23:03
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flwangkgriffs: you know, new job, new country,  rent out my house, rent a new house in NZ, buy car, etc23:04
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flwangkgriffs: but I'm almost settling down23:05
flwangkgriffs: btw, the new timezone make it's hard for me to join the weekly meeting :(23:06
kgriffsah, I was wondering about that23:07
kgriffsflwang: when do you start your day, NZ local time?23:07
flwang9:00AM generally, now my time is 11:08Am23:08
kgriffsflwang: ok, we can ping flavio and see what overlap the three of us have in our day that might work23:09
kgriffsI'll bring it up tomorrow with him23:10
flwangkgriffs: cool, thanks for that23:10
kgriffsmy pleasure23:10
flwangbtw, I love this https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Juno/Notes/Marconi23:10
flwangkgriffs: you guys did a great job23:10
flwangit's a pity I missed this summit23:11
kgriffscool. we tried to discuss all the major things23:11
kgriffsflwang: we definitely missed you!23:11
flwangkgriffs: I will convince my boss to sponsor me to Paris :D23:11
kgriffsexcellent23:11
flwangwhat's your time now?23:12
kgriffs6pm23:12
kgriffsgetting ready to head home23:12
flwanggot, so have a good evening23:12
kgriffsthanks, have a good day!23:12
kgriffso/23:12
flwango/ rock on23:12
kgriffscheers23:13
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