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| flwang | flaper87: ping | 08:02 |
| flaper87 | flwang: pong | 08:02 |
| flwang | flaper87: I'm still working on the client test though it may be late for you, sorry about that. | 08:03 |
| flwang | flaper87: I'm running into some problems against keystone auth | 08:03 |
| flaper87 | flwang: no worries, it's all for good! | 08:03 |
| flaper87 | thanks a lot | 08:03 |
| flwang | flaper87: did you try the keystone auth for marconi server? | 08:03 |
| flaper87 | flwang: yup, Marconi's keystone should work unless something changed | 08:04 |
| flwang | flaper87: is it necessary to create service catalog in keystone for marconi server before keystone auth? | 08:05 |
| flaper87 | yup | 08:08 |
| flaper87 | flwang: if you use devstack, it should do everything for ya' | 08:08 |
| flaper87 | enable_service marconi-server | 08:08 |
| flwang | I know | 08:08 |
| flwang | just wanna to confirm if it's a potential reason, I will devstack my laptop again | 08:09 |
| flwang | flaper87: I assume you have not released client yet, is it? | 08:11 |
| flaper87 | flwang: don't devstack your laptop :P | 08:11 |
| flaper87 | flwang: not yet, I'll do that this week | 08:12 |
| flwang | flaper87: ok, ^good^, I really want to give a hand | 08:12 |
| flwang | flaper87: may I ask a question about cinder+oslo.messaging at here? or in a private window? | 08:15 |
| flaper87 | flwang: priv, pls | 08:15 |
| flaper87 | or openstack-dev | 08:15 |
| flaper87 | or openstack-cinder | 08:15 |
| flaper87 | :D | 08:15 |
| flwang | private window | 08:17 |
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| * flaper87 wonders where the folks of this channel are | 14:41 | |
| flaper87 | :( | 14:41 |
| flaper87 | kgriffs|afk: alcabrera|zz malini ? | 14:41 |
| flaper87 | :( | 14:41 |
| sriram | o/ | 14:42 |
| flaper87 | sriram: hey hey :D | 14:43 |
| flaper87 | sriram: how was your weekend? | 14:43 |
| sriram | flaper87: It was awesome. | 14:43 |
| sriram | Had lots of marathon badminton sessions :) | 14:44 |
| sriram | flaper87: I was wondering if there was any blueprint or bug-fixes that I can start out with? | 14:44 |
| sriram | to start becoming a proper contributor. | 14:44 |
| flaper87 | sriram: cool, glad you had a great weekend | 14:45 |
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| flaper87 | sriram: hehe, you asked for it! :D | 14:45 |
| * flaper87 gets a long list of bps for sriram | 14:45 | |
| sriram | :) | 14:45 |
| flaper87 | sriram: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/marconi/+spec/api-v1.1-lazy-create-queues this one should keep you busy for a bit :P | 14:50 |
| flaper87 | we won't be able to merge it until the Juno dev cycle starts but it shouldn't take long | 14:50 |
| flaper87 | I hope marconi's rc will be cut this week or the next one | 14:51 |
| sriram | thanks! flaper87. I'll start working on this soon :) | 14:51 |
| flaper87 | sriram: awesome :D | 14:51 |
| flaper87 | and thanks a lot | 14:52 |
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| flaper87 | tellesnobrega: hey, welcome to the most amazing channel ever :D | 15:02 |
| flaper87 | tellesnobrega: shoot, what can we help with ? | 15:02 |
| tellesnobrega | thanks | 15:03 |
| alcabrera|zz | good morning! :D | 15:05 |
| tellesnobrega | flaper87: i'm starting to think about making sahara available for real time processing | 15:05 |
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| tellesnobrega | and one possible solution that I'm thinking is using marconi as the queue to send the process into the ESP application | 15:06 |
| tellesnobrega | do you think marconi will suffice for this situation ? | 15:06 |
| cpallares | alcabrera, malini: o/ | 15:07 |
| alcabrera | cpallares: heeeey! :) | 15:08 |
| cpallares | alcabrera: how was your weekend? | 15:08 |
| alcabrera | awesome, cpallares! I colored, spent time with friends, and got to write. :) | 15:09 |
| cpallares | nice alcabrera, did you write on Sunday? I remember you and flaper87 had some sort of writing Sunday planned :P | 15:10 |
| flaper87 | tellesnobrega: that sounds really great! Yeah, I believe marconi is perfect for that task | 15:10 |
| cpallares | alcabrera: I saw your painting on twitter :) | 15:10 |
| flaper87 | cpallares: ssshh we fail at really doing things | 15:10 |
| cpallares | haha | 15:11 |
| tellesnobrega | flaper87: thanks. I'm still at the thinking phase, once I have more concrete stuff and need some help with marconi, i will sure be back here | 15:11 |
| alcabrera | cpallares, flaper87: yeah, not that writing. Mostly some personal reflection. :) | 15:12 |
| flaper87 | tellesnobrega: pls, let us know if we can help with some guidance, coding or support from a client perspective | 15:12 |
| tellesnobrega | flaper87: i will for sure, thanks for the quick feedback :) | 15:12 |
| alcabrera | cpallares: how was your weekend? | 15:13 |
| cpallares | alcabrera: it was pretty good :) I got lots of sleep and took lots of naps. It was warm enough so I went kayaking :) | 15:15 |
| cpallares | alcabrera: Also I watched the spin-off of Carl Sagan's Cosmos, it was pretty good :D | 15:15 |
| * flaper87 is not human | 15:16 | |
| alcabrera | cpallares: sounds lovely. Things have been warming up here, too. I felt at peace with the world Sunday morning because it wasa so warm, and there was so little traffic. | 15:16 |
| * flaper87 wonders where Kurt is | 15:20 | |
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| kgriffs | here | 15:36 |
| kgriffs | sorry, forgot to sign in earlier. :p | 15:36 |
| alcabrera | kgriffs: o/ | 15:36 |
| kgriffs | flaper87: hey, do you know whether any work is planned to get keystone auth_token middleware to use oslo cache? | 15:44 |
| flaper87 | kgriffs: I've no idea, TBH. AFAIK, one of the keystone guys wanted to make oslo.cache use dogpile.cache or something like that | 15:45 |
| kgriffs | flaper87: do you want to talk about the FAQ in tomorrow's meeting, or maybe schedule a special meetup just for that? | 15:53 |
| flaper87 | kgriffs: uuhh, that'd be a good first topic for a G+ session | 15:53 |
| flaper87 | kgriffs: great idea | 15:53 |
| kgriffs | flaper87: will you be in the mtg tomorrow, btw? | 15:54 |
| flaper87 | yup, I'll be there | 15:54 |
| kgriffs | flaper87: iirc, auth_token requires memcached right now, correct? | 15:55 |
| flaper87 | kgriffs: it's optional | 15:55 |
| flaper87 | if you want to cache the token then yeah | 15:56 |
| kgriffs | flaper87: optional, but if you enable cache, it is memcache only | 15:56 |
| kgriffs | kk | 15:56 |
| flaper87 | kgriffs: correct | 15:56 |
| * flaper87 hates this timezone | 15:56 | |
| flaper87 | it's 18:00 here already and you guys are still waking up | 15:56 |
| flaper87 | :( | 15:56 |
| kgriffs | flaper87: re the mtg, maybe we can take a minute to set up a G+ time for going over the faq, then you could propose the mtg on the mailing list for whoever isn't in the mtg to get confirmation - I think there is some tool for voting on a time slot | 15:57 |
| kgriffs | flaper87: lol. But you get to eat amazing pasta and live by a lake | 15:57 |
| flaper87 | kgriffs: doodle | 15:57 |
| kgriffs | that's it | 15:57 |
| kgriffs | couldn't remember the name off the top of my head | 15:57 |
| flaper87 | kgriffs: yeah, ok, lets do that! | 15:57 |
| kgriffs | rock on | 15:57 |
| flaper87 | kgriffs: btw, re G+, it does have a limit on the number of participants (10 people) | 15:57 |
| flaper87 | but the livestream is unlimited | 15:57 |
| flaper87 | so folks could still watch the stream | 15:58 |
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| kgriffs | ok, and we can monitor IRC for questions and stuff | 16:04 |
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| boris-42 | malini hi | 16:50 |
| malini | hello boris-42 | 16:50 |
| boris-42 | malini I just saw your email about performance of marconi | 16:51 |
| malini | yes, I havent been able to get to it with some other stuff going on | 16:51 |
| boris-42 | malini And I am working on standard OpenStack benchmark tool | 16:51 |
| boris-42 | malini probably you heard https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Rally | 16:52 |
| malini | are you referring to rally? | 16:52 |
| boris-42 | malini yep=) | 16:52 |
| malini | you type faster boris-42 ;) | 16:52 |
| boris-42 | malini and I would like to coopearate=) | 16:52 |
| malini | yayyy..I have been meaning to look at rally | 16:52 |
| malini | We currently use tsung to do the benchmarks | 16:52 |
| boris-42 | malini so actually I can make some short live demo presentation) | 16:52 |
| malini | boris-42: tht would be cool !! | 16:53 |
| boris-42 | malini of rally so we will be able to discuss how to cover cases that you need | 16:53 |
| boris-42 | malini is there anybody interested as well?) | 16:53 |
| boris-42 | malini I mean to make 1 live demo not 10 =) | 16:53 |
| malini | :D | 16:53 |
| boris-42 | malini (I mean for marconi team) | 16:53 |
| malini | A lot of us in the team are interested in benchmarking | 16:53 |
| kgriffs | boris-42: +1 | 16:53 |
| malini | I cant think of anybody who is not interested | 16:53 |
| boris-42 | =) | 16:54 |
| malini | boris-42: Can we plan a g+ hangout? | 16:54 |
| boris-42 | malini so could you organize (as you are more familiar with team) proper time to make 1-2 live demos for all members | 16:54 |
| kgriffs | boris-42: fwiw, we have been using Tsung mostly for benchmark engine. | 16:54 |
| boris-42 | malini sure sure | 16:54 |
| kgriffs | but IMO the real value add for Rally would be continuous testing and graphing over time | 16:54 |
| boris-42 | kgriffs yep | 16:54 |
| malini | boris-42: This is what we have today https://github.com/rackerlabs/csi-marconi | 16:55 |
| boris-42 | kgriffs actually we are starting work on Operators case in rally | 16:55 |
| boris-42 | kgriffs so we would like to be even more heavy integrated with OpenStack | 16:55 |
| kgriffs | boris-42: wrt benchmark engine, HTTP benchmarking tools seem to be be biased toward web apps, not APIs. Do you have a particular tool in mind already for Rally? | 16:55 |
| boris-42 | kgriffs e.g. profiling / health checks / periodic perfromance testing / ... | 16:55 |
| kgriffs | boris-42: cool, that would be great | 16:56 |
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| * kgriffs wants flame graphs | 16:56 | |
| malini | boris-42: Do you think you can use one of the Marconi API's in the Rally demo? | 16:56 |
| * kgriffs is jealous of node community | 16:56 | |
| boris-42 | malini kgriffs so 1 sec | 16:56 |
| kgriffs | boris-42: we obviously don't care much about this. ;) | 16:57 |
| boris-42 | kgriffs malini so Rally has common apporach | 16:57 |
| boris-42 | kgriffs malini it uses std python clients of project | 16:57 |
| boris-42 | kgriffs malini https://github.com/openstack/python-marconiclient as I see you have one of them=) | 16:57 |
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| boris-42 | malini would you like to cooperate to build base for marconi?) | 16:59 |
| boris-42 | malini it should take more then 1hrs | 16:59 |
| malini | boris-42: of course! | 16:59 |
| boris-42 | shouldn't** | 16:59 |
| boris-42 | lol | 16:59 |
| malini | I got a lil worried over tht typo ;) | 16:59 |
| malini | does rally have an IRC channel? | 17:00 |
| boris-42 | hehe=) | 17:00 |
| boris-42 | yep | 17:00 |
| boris-42 | #openstack-rally | 17:00 |
| malini | awesome | 17:00 |
| malini | I will add a bp in Marconi to start adding tests in Rally | 17:00 |
| boris-42 | malini kgriffs actually I am happy to see project in OpenStack that is worried of perfromance=) | 17:01 |
| malini | meanwhile we'll continue with Tsung for the benchmarks till we have enough tests in Rally | 17:01 |
| boris-42 | malini let me help you (probably here or in rally chat) | 17:01 |
| kgriffs | kk | 17:01 |
| kgriffs | I suppose this will also be a benchmark of the client librarty | 17:01 |
| boris-42 | kgriffs yep cause it will go through it | 17:01 |
| boris-42 | kgriffs we have as well plans of adding profiler | 17:01 |
| boris-42 | kgriffs to see what is happening under hood of project | 17:02 |
| malini | boris-42: we have had the Tsung tests for a long toime, but we didnt want them in the marconi repo, for obvious reasons | 17:02 |
| kgriffs | boris-42: fwiw, we have been thinking about adding first-class async support into the client. Not sure how that factor's into the way rally works | 17:02 |
| kgriffs | s/factor's/factors | 17:02 |
| boris-42 | kgriffs so client instance should be thread safe | 17:02 |
| boris-42 | kgriffs it's very important (other thing are not important) | 17:02 |
| boris-42 | malini so let me help you to start with rally | 17:03 |
| boris-42 | malini cause it should be very simple | 17:03 |
| kgriffs | flaper87: ^^^ | 17:03 |
| boris-42 | malini so are you using keystone for authentication? | 17:04 |
| malini | boris-42: yes | 17:04 |
| boris-42 | malini nice nice | 17:04 |
| boris-42 | malini it is very important lol=) | 17:04 |
| malini | :D | 17:04 |
| kgriffs | boris-42: kk. I was just thinking, using green threads may be a way to generate more load than you could with regular threads. | 17:04 |
| boris-42 | kgriffs so actually we have in plans to build distributed load generator | 17:04 |
| boris-42 | kgriffs cause in MagnetoDB we would like to produce load of 100k requests/sec | 17:05 |
| boris-42 | kgriffs so it will be very interesting task=) | 17:05 |
| kgriffs | yeap! | 17:05 |
| kgriffs | I imagine Swift and Marconi will need really high loads as well | 17:05 |
| boris-42 | kgriffs yep so distributed load generator | 17:05 |
| malini | boris-42: newbie question on Rally. WHy did you choose to build a new tool over using any of the existing ? | 17:05 |
| kgriffs | boris-42: I'm sure nobody has ever asked you that question. ;) | 17:06 |
| boris-42 | kgriffs ^_^ | 17:06 |
| malini | :D | 17:06 |
| boris-42 | malini so the answer is simple | 17:06 |
| malini | I am sure you guys did your homework | 17:06 |
| kgriffs | boris-42: I'm sure there are good reasons, we are just trying to understand the background | 17:06 |
| boris-42 | malini I would like to make simple tool for OpenStackers | 17:06 |
| boris-42 | malini where you have a lot of OpenStack specific stuff | 17:07 |
| malini | like say, handle authentication etc. by default ? | 17:07 |
| boris-42 | malini like do everything=) | 17:08 |
| boris-42 | malini https://github.com/stackforge/rally/blob/master/doc/samples/tasks/nova/boot-and-delete.json | 17:08 |
| boris-42 | malini ^ this is config of task | 17:08 |
| boris-42 | malini it creates environment for benchmark with 3 tenants and 2 users per tenant | 17:08 |
| boris-42 | malini these users will be transperatly used in benchmark scenario | 17:09 |
| boris-42 | malini and you are able with new "benchmark context" stuff to build any environment for these users and tenants, setup networks/ create vms/ upload images set quotas | 17:09 |
| boris-42 | malini as well input config will be fully checked | 17:09 |
| boris-42 | malini e.g. there is such benchmark, there is such load generator, image-id and flavor-id are valid | 17:10 |
| boris-42 | =) | 17:10 |
| malini | boris-42: can you easily do multiple (thousands) tenants? tht is one of our current pain points | 17:10 |
| boris-42 | malini so specify 1k tenants | 17:10 |
| boris-42 | malini and you'll get 1 tenants | 17:10 |
| boris-42 | malini more then you are able to specify "amount threads" that are creating them | 17:11 |
| malini | so Rally would take care of creating all the needed tenants in keystone? | 17:11 |
| boris-42 | malini yep | 17:11 |
| boris-42 | malini and then delete all of them | 17:11 |
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| malini | tht is great | 17:12 |
| malini | Is Rally meant to be run against devstack? | 17:12 |
| boris-42 | malini so there is a long list (and it will be even longer) why I chose to make one more tool | 17:12 |
| boris-42 | malini actually nope | 17:12 |
| boris-42 | malini at this moment we have 3 parts | 17:12 |
| kgriffs | <random> malini: I just tweeted something that I'd like to dedicate to you. </random> | 17:12 |
| kgriffs | malini: "Show me your bug-free code and I'll show you a missing test." | 17:12 |
| malini | :D | 17:12 |
| boris-42 | malini lol=) | 17:13 |
| malini | I am flattered kgriffs | 17:13 |
| boris-42 | malini so about rally parts | 17:13 |
| boris-42 | 1) Deployment part - deploy or use existing cloud | 17:13 |
| * flaper87 back | 17:13 | |
| boris-42 | 2) Verification - use tempest to verify cloud | 17:13 |
| flaper87 | holy crap, all the fun happens when I'm not around | 17:13 |
| boris-42 | 3) Benchmark part - use our stuff for benchmarking | 17:13 |
| boris-42 | flaper87 lol=) yep=) | 17:13 |
| flaper87 | there are like too many messages for me to digest, I'm starting to digest my dinner | 17:14 |
| boris-42 | flaper87 ^ it's just crap about perfromance=) | 17:14 |
| malini | boris-42: 1 & 2 happens outside of Rally , & Rally can run against any OpenStack cloud | 17:15 |
| malini | boris-42: flaper87 & kgriffs are our perf tuning gurus ;) | 17:15 |
| boris-42 | malini rally can be run against any cloud | 17:15 |
| flaper87 | If something can be faster then that's not crap at all :P | 17:15 |
| boris-42 | malini including rackspace public cloud lol | 17:15 |
| boris-42 | malini but in future=) when we actually finish support of procreated users | 17:15 |
| boris-42 | "pre-created" | 17:15 |
| malini | boris-42: tht is very important ;) | 17:16 |
| boris-42 | malini btw there is a core from RackSpace in Rally | 17:16 |
| boris-42 | malini hughsaunders | 17:16 |
| malini | tht is good to know | 17:16 |
| boris-42 | malini so if you are from England he can describe you everything=) | 17:17 |
| malini | boris-42: thanks for reaching out to us & all the explanations | 17:17 |
| boris-42 | malini so let me describe how to get for couple of minutes benchmark for marconi | 17:17 |
| malini | awesome | 17:17 |
| boris-42 | malini probably in rally chat to avoid spamming here=) | 17:17 |
| malini | sure | 17:18 |
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| malini | fyi..I will be offline for most of the afternoon - have some personal stuff to take care of | 17:38 |
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| kgriffs | cpallares: I commented on your latest pull for Falcon. So close! https://github.com/racker/falcon/pull/232 | 19:50 |
| kgriffs | cpallares: thanks for your help with this, btw. :) | 19:51 |
| cpallares | haha | 19:51 |
| cpallares | sooo close | 19:51 |
| cpallares | kgriffs: I'll update the patch. | 19:51 |
| kgriffs | rock on, thx! | 19:51 |
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| dmitryme | Hello Marconi folks | 21:31 |
| dmitryme | I'd like to propose a topic for tomorrow team meeting | 21:31 |
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| dmitryme | it is about using Marconi for guest agent | 21:31 |
| dmitryme | if you don't yet familiar with that topic, you can find a brief description on the wiki here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/UnifiedGuestAgent | 21:32 |
| dmitryme | basically the idea is that an agent running on VM executes commands coming from OpenStack service | 21:33 |
| dmitryme | so essentially that is an RPC from the service and 'into' the VM | 21:34 |
| dmitryme | it is supposed to be useful for PaaS kind of projects | 21:36 |
| dmitryme | like Savanna, Trove, Solum and Murano | 21:37 |
| dmitryme | also Heat folks are interested | 21:37 |
| kgriffs | dmitryme: sure, let me add you to the agenda | 21:38 |
| dmitryme | kgriffs: great, thanks! | 21:38 |
| flaper87 | dmitryme: wow wow wow, exiting! Looking forward to hear what you've to say :D | 21:41 |
| flaper87 | thanks :D | 21:41 |
| kgriffs | dmitryme: I added you at the bottom of "extra stuff" - I think it will take 10-15 minutes to get to that item (the other items are pretty much just FYI's) | 21:42 |
| kgriffs | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Marconi#Extra_Stuff | 21:42 |
| dmitryme | kgriffs: nice, thank you | 21:43 |
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| kgriffs | dmitryme: btw, Rackspace Cloud Backup uses something very similar to Marconi to communicate between the service and individual backup agents on servers. It has been working well. | 21:45 |
| dmitryme | flaper87: no sensation here :-) . As it was discussed in the mailing thread, seems like Marconi is the best fit for the agent. Initially we thought to implement RPC on top of standard oslo.messaging backends: RabbitMQ, QPid, ZeroMQ | 21:45 |
| kgriffs | kk | 21:46 |
| dmitryme | but the thing is such solution will be limited by design as it is really hard to implement tenant isolation with these | 21:46 |
| flaper87 | kgriffs: something similar to marconi != marconi | 21:46 |
| flaper87 | shame on you, kgriffs | 21:46 |
| kgriffs | I think the team will be interested in your thoughts on that | 21:46 |
| kgriffs | dmitryme: also, users often have iptables restricting stuff and HTTP is more likely to get through. | 21:47 |
| kgriffs | flaper87: heh, I think they have it on their roadmap to migrate. | 21:47 |
| kgriffs | the "something similar" is code-named RSE | 21:47 |
| kgriffs | it predates marconi by quite a bit | 21:47 |
| dmitryme | kgriffs: nice point | 21:48 |
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| dmitryme | as for the other stuff, these are just details. I'd like to preserve them for the meeting, otherwise I will have nothing to talk about ;-) | 21:50 |
| kgriffs | lol | 21:50 |
| kgriffs | dmitryme: you should be using this instead: http://infinitymq.org/ | 21:50 |
| flaper87 | kgriffs: ok ok, as long as they migrate, that's fine :P | 21:50 |
| kgriffs | dmitryme: yep, let's discuss in the mtg | 21:50 |
| dmitryme | kgriffs: BTW, are Rackspace Queues based on Marconi, right? | 21:51 |
| kgriffs | dmitryme: yes | 21:51 |
| kgriffs | Rackspace tracks marconi trunk closely. | 21:52 |
| dmitryme | kgriffs: API makes it pretty obvious | 21:52 |
| kgriffs | :D | 21:52 |
| kgriffs | IMO, the closer an operator tracks upstream code and behavior, the better | 21:52 |
| kgriffs | if one operator has to patch the code to make it work, chances are other people could use that patch, so let's submit it upstream instead. | 21:54 |
| kgriffs | </soapbox> | 21:54 |
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