Monday, 2013-11-25

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flaper87kgriffs: hey16:02
flaper87kgriffs: how are you doing?16:02
kgriffs0/16:02
kgriffsready to meet?16:02
kgriffsflaper87: pretty good - had to just about swim to work today16:02
kgriffsbeen raining non-stop for the past few days16:02
flaper87kgriffs: o.016:02
kgriffskind of strange for Texas. :p16:02
flaper87kgriffs: I think it'll be you and me in the meeting16:03
flaper87:D16:03
kgriffsslackers16:03
flaper87btw, can we maybe start it a bit later today?16:03
kgriffsgood help is so hard to find these days16:03
kgriffs;)16:03
kgriffsflaper87: sure, no problem16:03
flaper87yeah16:03
kgriffsjust ping me when you are ready16:04
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kgriffsflaper87: do you happen to have a copy of the PDF from the summit talk?16:14
kgriffsametts: ^^^16:15
amettsI have it.16:15
flaper87kgriffs: I do16:17
kgriffshooray!!!!16:17
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flaper87man, it's taking me a bit longer, I'm sorry. :(16:17
* kgriffs wishes spideroak a slow and painful death16:17
kgriffscan one of you guys upload it to the summit website16:18
kgriffs?16:18
flaper87kgriffs: flwang https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/671680/marconi-talk.pdf16:20
flwangflaper87: thanks16:23
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flaper87kgriffs: flwang i'm so so so so so so sorry17:00
flaper87kgriffs: wanna talk about notification?17:00
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flaper87kgriffs: you're mad at me, aren't you?17:02
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flwangi'm here but i don't know what I can help :D17:08
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flaper87gotta step out, dinner!17:39
flaper87kgriffs: ttyl17:39
kgriffsflaper87: no worries, lots of people are missing today, so I think it would be better to wait until next week anyway17:41
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flaper87kgriffs_afk: buddy, where did you go? ;(18:21
flaper87this is going to be a loooong week for this channel18:22
flaper87Dear #openstack-marconi, it'll be you and me the whole week18:22
flaper87and flwang too18:22
flaper87:D18:22
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kgriffsflaper87: back19:27
kgriffsit's "crappy buffet monday" at the office19:27
flaper87kgriffs: lol19:27
kgriffsa group of us go out and find something questionable to eat each monday19:27
cpallaresflaper87: https://wiki.gnome.org/OutreachProgramForWomen/2013/DecemberMarch#Accepted_Participants19:28
cpallaresflaper87: :D :D :D19:28
flaper87interesting, I spend my week trying to find something - that I prefer not to question  - to eat. :D19:28
flaper87cpallares: AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!19:29
flaper87cpallares: super, duper, mega, congrats!19:29
cpallaresflaper87: Yay!!! thanks! :D I'm the official marconi intern!19:29
flaper87cpallares: and the first one!19:30
cpallaresflaper87: woooh first one, now I feel special :-)19:31
flaper87cpallares: you definitely are! Congratulations again!19:31
flaper87cpallares: now, did you implemented the whole blueprint already?19:32
flaper87ghghghgghg19:32
flaper87just kidding19:32
cpallaresflaper87: hahaha19:32
cpallaresflaper87: http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/234/739/fa5.jpg19:32
flaper87cpallares: hhuahuahuahua19:32
cpallaresflaper87: :P19:32
cpallaresflaper87: Also, I re-committed the patch with the log19:33
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flaper87cpallares: awesome, I'll review it asap19:33
cpallaresflaper87: awesome :) thanks19:33
flaper87cpallares: btw, what's the earliest human-time you can login ?19:34
cpallaresflaper87: italy time? or my time?19:34
flaper87I'm not human so, don't worry about me19:34
flaper87cpallares: UTC ;)19:35
kgriffscpallares: http://goo.gl/853xih19:36
kgriffswelcome to the project!19:36
kgriffsdon't be a afraid to blow things up. :D19:37
cpallareskgriffs: hahaha19:37
cpallareskgriffs: you're jinxing me :P19:37
cpallaresflaper87: Wait, are you talking about this week? or starting dec 10?19:39
flaper87kgriffs: LOOOL19:39
flaper87cpallares: in general, I just want to know what time we can meet on IRC and check status and stuff.19:40
* flaper87 is so exited about cpallares hacking on Marconi19:41
* flaper87 is jumping19:42
cpallaresflaper87: oh okay, then early in the morning? Around 1 or 2 pm utc.19:42
cpallareshahaha flaper87 :D19:42
flaper87cpallares: if that's fine with you Ok.19:42
flaper87so, 14 UTC19:43
flaper87cpallares: are you on #openstack-dev ?19:43
flaper87(Channel and mailing list)19:43
cpallaresflaper87: nope. nor the mailing list.19:43
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flaper87cpallares: kk, I suggest you to subscribe. The traffic is high but you can filter emails that you're not interested in19:44
flaper87cpallares: we try to discuss everything there, in the wild open19:45
flaper87cpallares: http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev19:45
cpallaresflaper87: ok!19:46
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kgriffsflaper87: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53127/20:00
flaper87kgriffs: shoot20:01
kgriffsI'd like to get this one unblocked.20:01
kgriffsI feel like there may be a miscommunication about this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53127/20/marconi/queues/storage/sharding.py20:01
kgriffsso, I am OK with updating those docstrings20:02
kgriffsre the list comprehension, what is the crux of the issue?20:02
kgriffszyuan: ^^^20:02
kgriffsalso, why are we using heapq in the first place?20:03
kgriffsiirc, sort() is actually faster but you trade that for increased memory usage20:04
flaper87I don't my list comprehensions as long as they don't make the code un-readable20:04
flaper87s/my/mind/20:05
flaper87that's my only concern there20:05
kgriffs(heaps are mostly useful when you want to keep something ordered over time as you add things a little at a time)20:05
kgriffsflaper87: ah, so would you build up the list in a for loop, then pass to heapq.merge in a separate step?20:06
flaper87I'm not a big fan of heap either but my get there is that the idea is to optimize memory usage which can be a bit high when listing queues from all those shards20:06
flaper87kgriffs: yeah, that's what I was trying to say20:07
flaper87kgriffs: re for-loop ^20:07
flaper87I starred at that code for 1 min breaking things down in my mind.20:08
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flaper87kgriffs: btw, I replied to your comments here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/57265/ :)20:09
flaper87kgriffs: good comments, thanks for that!20:09
flaper87kgriffs: you made me think again about the whole idea behind that code20:10
flaper87:)20:10
kgriffsheh20:10
kgriffskk20:10
kgriffsIt's just that I've seen this as a recurring theme in OS projects20:11
kgriffspeople start abstracting away auth, but then come back to just supporting Keystone and letting Keystone be the abstraction itself.20:11
kgriffsre PY3K, isn't the keystone team on the hook for making their client work?20:12
flaper87kgriffs: don't think so, there's not even a non-voting gate for it20:14
zyuanabout the list comprehension stuff20:14
zyuanhow to use a for loop there?20:14
zyuana = []20:14
zyuanfor ...20:14
zyuana.append(..) ?20:14
zyuanno.  if the target is [], i'll just generate one within expression20:14
zyuanappend adds no readability20:15
zyuanthe interface of merge is not designed for using loop -- if it can be done step by step, like20:16
zyuanq.merge(l1)20:16
zyuanq.merge(l2)20:16
zyuanfine, great, use loop20:16
zyuanbut it can not20:16
kgriffsflaper87: d00d, I don't see how a critical library like that can not be one of the *first* things to achieve PY3K20:16
zyuanflaper87: ^^20:17
flaper87zyuan: FWIW, you're still filling a list and passing that to merge. The only thing that changes is the way you do it and I'm afraid that you're statement about 'append or breaking it down not adding readability' is not true.20:19
flaper87but that's my opinion20:19
zyuanwhat's your proposed change?20:19
flaper87kgriffs: yeah, let me send an email and ask for feedback20:19
zyuanuse append inside for loop?20:20
kgriffsflaper87: kk. If nobody has bandwidth to work on that, maybe I can free up some time to do it myself20:20
kgriffsI want to migrate it over to use oslo.cache and do some general perf work anyway20:21
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-marconiclient: Remove the dependency on oslo.config  https://review.openstack.org/5726520:29
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flaper87sorry, back20:47
flaper87zyuan: my first thought was for-loop + list. Another thing could be moving the whole `next(....)` call into a closure and use that20:48
flaper87I mean, the call that you're passing to next20:49
flaper87anyway, something along those lines20:49
flaper87kgriffs: sounds great!20:49
flaper87kgriffs: btw, this one is very straightforward https://review.openstack.org/#/c/57223/20:50
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flaper87kgriffs: and this is exiting https://review.openstack.org/#/c/57554/ :D20:50
flaper87and also straightforward20:50
flaper87kgriffs: thanks for those reviews20:50
flaper87brb20:58
openstackgerritZhihao Yuan proposed a change to openstack/marconi: feat(shard): queue listing from multiple sources  https://review.openstack.org/5312720:59
zyuanflaper87: how about this ^^20:59
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openstackgerritZhihao Yuan proposed a change to openstack/marconi: feat(health): make health API storage-aware  https://review.openstack.org/5345722:13
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