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| gouthamr | tbarron: Ignazio Cassano's request from the mailing list sounds like a problem that share replication can solve | 17:35 |
| gouthamr | tbarron: although it isn't what we "support" | 17:35 |
| gouthamr | i mean, he'll need to setup the backend from site B into site A and create replicas | 17:38 |
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| tbarron | gouthamr: replication can make his share from installation a show up on installation b | 19:00 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: back end replication | 19:01 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: then he can unmanage | 19:01 |
| tbarron | promote | 19:01 |
| tbarron | via back end | 19:01 |
| tbarron | and manage on installation b | 19:01 |
| tbarron | this is assuming his use case is two separate installations , not some kind of federated openstack | 19:02 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: but if he wants to manage from both installations via openstack/manila then they better somehow not be totally "two" installations | 19:02 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: else split brain | 19:03 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: not sure what he really wants to do yet though | 19:03 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: if you are, then please propose the solution on the thread | 19:03 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: oh I see his reply | 19:08 |
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| tbarron | gouthamr: there's no split brain but neither is there a brain transplant or brain replication, do you agree? | 19:10 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: he can get the data over to B, he can manage it from there, but there's no solution to get the manila, neutron, keystone DBs over | 19:11 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: no solution meaning that OpenStack doesn't provide a way to do that | 19:11 |
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| gouthamr | true, brain transplant situation :) | 19:38 |
| gouthamr | i *may* have a solution, still noodling it | 19:39 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: i'll go on and make my brain transplant remark and then you can come in and say how to do it if you want | 20:03 |
| gouthamr | tbarron: i was going to refer them to ntap | 20:03 |
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| tbarron | gouthamr: how is ntap going to get their keystone info from A to B? | 20:04 |
| gouthamr | tbarron: he just wants the shares over | 20:04 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: ntap is a back end | 20:04 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: not as I understood it | 20:04 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: but I may be confused | 20:04 |
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| gouthamr | tbarron: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-February/002429.html | 20:06 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: "I must modify the manila db on B?" not just to discover the data and the ntap attributes but yes if you want the openstack attributes, right? | 20:07 |
| tbarron | can do replication under A with both filers, promote to ntap B, unmanage from openstack A, manage from openstack B if all he wants is data and ntap attributes | 20:08 |
| tbarron | just getting manila to set up snapmirror for him, basically | 20:08 |
| gouthamr | tbarron: yes, but a few things need to be considered | 20:09 |
| gouthamr | tbarron: replicas can't be "managed" | 20:09 |
| tbarron | gouthamr so he has to break the replication relationship | 20:09 |
| gouthamr | tbarron: i.e, if you have a share that can't be written to, or has a replication relationship, it can't be managed | 20:09 |
| gouthamr | tbarron: yes | 20:09 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: be a lot easier just to skip manila replication and unmanage, use ntap management to replicate & break, then manage from B | 20:10 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: unless you can easily break the relationship without having to do ontap cmds I don't see any advantage to doing it with manila | 20:10 |
| gouthamr | tbarron: well there is some hardening that manila will do | 20:11 |
| gouthamr | tbarron: but yes, if the guy's familiar with netapp, they can do the same things on their end | 20:11 |
| gouthamr | tbarron: i'd like to know if he's using replication right now | 20:13 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: my point is unless manila cmds will do it all then he'll have to involve a netapp admin (maybe himself) in the process | 20:13 |
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| gouthamr | tbarron: hmmm, if i understand it correctly, if he's already replicated his shares with manila and wants to now "move" them to a different OpenStack, it is straightforward | 20:15 |
| gouthamr | tbarron: promote secondaries, delete old primaries, unmanage all on OpenStack A | 20:15 |
| gouthamr | tbarron: then manage everything on OpenStack B | 20:15 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: yeah, I just want to make sure he only cares about the data and netapp attributes | 20:16 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: sent my worry-wort mail, you can tell him what to do next (even if it's call ntap) | 20:16 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: if he had offsite CSI snapshots he could put them on tape, put the tapes in a truck, drive to installation B, create vols from snaps | 20:17 |
| gouthamr | tbarron: or call ganso | 20:18 |
| gouthamr | :D | 20:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ivan Kolodyazhny proposed openstack/manila-ui master: Add manila-ui integration tests https://review.openstack.org/635112 | 20:37 |
| gouthamr | e0ne: jinx | 20:52 |
| e0ne | gouthamr: you're welcome | 20:52 |
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| tbarron | gouthamr: thanks much for updating the active-active section of https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/SteinCycle ! | 21:22 |
| tbarron | amito: when you get a chance pls. take a look at opestack sdk section there and put in a couple notes | 21:23 |
| amito | tbarron: np, i'll do that tomorrow | 21:23 |
| tbarron | amito: thanks! | 21:23 |
| tbarron | ganso: yours is marked yellow atm b/c if there's one huge big patch right before M3 then it will go to t | 21:24 |
| tbarron | Train | 21:24 |
| amito | tbarron: I have a small beta... for now it's only for the Share object and the Share detail API. I'm swamped with downstream non-openstack work and haven't got much time for it lately :(. I hope I'll get to it in the weekend and upload a patch finally. | 21:26 |
| tbarron | amito: that's great, thanks! | 21:27 |
| tbarron | we should have cinder mid-cycles so we get e0ne's help more often | 21:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Goutham Pacha Ravi proposed openstack/manila master: Add policy to create/update public shares https://review.openstack.org/634864 | 21:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Goutham Pacha Ravi proposed openstack/manila master: Allow configuring availability_zones in share types https://review.openstack.org/633155 | 23:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Goutham Pacha Ravi proposed openstack/manila master: Allow configuring availability_zones in share types https://review.openstack.org/633155 | 23:28 |
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