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openstackgerrit | Tom Barron proposed openstack/manila master: DO NOT MERGE https://review.openstack.org/352606 | 01:30 |
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zhongjun | gouthamr: ^ ^ misoperation | 01:39 |
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zhongjun | vkmc: ping :) | 02:09 |
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openstackgerrit | zhongjun proposed openstack/manila-specs master: Add spec for gathering share usage size https://review.openstack.org/459150 | 02:35 |
openstackgerrit | zhongjun proposed openstack/manila-specs master: Add spec for gathering share usage size https://review.openstack.org/459150 | 02:42 |
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openstackgerrit | zhongjun proposed openstack/manila-specs master: Add spec for gathering share usage size https://review.openstack.org/459150 | 03:16 |
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openstackgerrit | Shubhendu Poothia proposed openstack/manila master: Set access_policy for messaging's dispatcher https://review.openstack.org/459944 | 05:25 |
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openstackgerrit | Yuval Brik proposed openstack/manila master: devstack: clone Manila client only if marked to https://review.openstack.org/459689 | 07:22 |
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openstackgerrit | M V P Nitesh proposed openstack/python-manilaclient master: Optimize the link address https://review.openstack.org/455547 | 07:28 |
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jprovazn | tommylikehu: good afternoon | 10:37 |
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jprovazn | (or probably evening) | 10:38 |
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openstackgerrit | Ramana Raja proposed openstack/manila master: WIP cephfs/driver: add nfs protocol support https://review.openstack.org/424605 | 11:19 |
openstackgerrit | Valeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/manila-ui master: Add possibility to revert a share to a snapshot https://review.openstack.org/458915 | 11:31 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-manilaclient master: Optimize the link address https://review.openstack.org/455547 | 11:33 |
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openstackgerrit | Shubhendu Poothia proposed openstack/manila master: Set access_policy for messaging's dispatcher https://review.openstack.org/459944 | 11:38 |
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tommylikehu | hey jprovazn , saw your comments, thinking.... | 12:17 |
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digvijay2016 | hi.. I have back-ported one bug for openstack/Newton release.. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/459620/ | 12:44 |
digvijay2016 | is it possible to get this patch merge into Newton release or only security fixes are going in it now? | 12:44 |
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tommylikehu | sudo ping jprovazn | 13:32 |
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jprovazn | tommylikehu, on a call, back in 30 | 13:33 |
jprovazn | tommylikehu, but my previous ping is probably not actual, I had some questions regarding user messages patch, but closer look at the patch answered my questions :) | 13:34 |
tommylikehu | wow, great. if any idea comes to you, please let me know | 13:34 |
tommylikehu | jprovazn: I also think that would not be a best solution | 13:35 |
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zhongjun | tbarron: In usage size tracking spec. Do you mean we could add a common library method to let driver read/write data in memcatched? such as: driver private data. https://github.com/openstack/manila/blob/master/manila/share/drivers_private_data.py | 14:34 |
tbarron | zhongjun: it's just a brainstorm at this point | 14:34 |
tbarron | zhongjun: but now that you aren't using the database, we don't *necessarily* have to be bound by the rules for manager and driver w.r.t. database updates | 14:35 |
tbarron | zhongjun: if we namespaced the memcached space so that each backend has its own sub-space | 14:35 |
tbarron | zhongjun: then maybe the backend could do updates directly rather than the manager having to wait for the driver to | 14:36 |
tbarron | zhongjun: return a big dictionary of share id - usage pairs | 14:36 |
tbarron | zhongjun: so if some backends take a lot of time to collect the usage info and update | 14:37 |
tbarron | zhongjun: the manager doesn't have to sit there waiting for them to return the info | 14:37 |
tbarron | zhongjun: as you know, my main worry about the usage collection is how to scale it and have it perform well | 14:37 |
tbarron | zhongjun: and I'd like us to think "out of the box" a bit about whether a different design pattern than what we use when | 14:39 |
tbarron | manager calls into driver and stores update in database makes sense. | 14:40 |
tbarron | so it's not really driver private data either, that's data private to the backend, but we still use the old pattern b/c that info goes to the database. | 14:40 |
zhongjun | tbarron:yeh, if we want to let driver update usage size directly, then we could also consider about whether the driver solve too much things in driver, it could also have perform problem | 14:45 |
tbarron | zhongjun: I don't know much about memcached, is writing a key-value there performance intensive? I was thinking of it basically as an in-memory write ... | 14:49 |
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zhongjun | tbarron: yes, it basically as an in-memory write. ok, if we let driver update usage size directly, it could increase a little bit time in driver. | 14:58 |
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tbarron | zhongjun: we have a manager (linux) process per backend, and the driver runs in that process too | 15:08 |
tbarron | zhongjun: but they are async-threaded | 15:08 |
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tbarron | zhongjun: so it may depend on whether the manager can do useful work that it wouldn't otherwise be able to do if it had to wait for the driver to collect all that info and return it to it, and the manager then has to write the results to memcached. | 15:09 |
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tbarron | zhongjun: as I say, it's the synchronous call-and-wait into a driver who then has to spend time that scales with the number of shares it handles that concerns me | 15:10 |
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zhongjun | tbarron: agree with you | 15:13 |
openstackgerrit | Valeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/manila-ui master: Add possibility to revert a share to a snapshot https://review.openstack.org/458915 | 15:26 |
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openstackgerrit | zhongjun proposed openstack/manila-specs master: Add spec for gathering share usage size https://review.openstack.org/459150 | 15:32 |
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openstackgerrit | Valeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/manila-ui master: Fix share creation from snapshot https://review.openstack.org/460248 | 18:03 |
vponomaryov | ganso: ^ | 18:04 |
vponomaryov | ganso: this bug has been existing for 19 months )) | 18:04 |
ganso | vponomaryov: best proof that nobody has been using manila | 18:06 |
vponomaryov | ganso: this feature via UI | 18:06 |
gouthamr | o,O | 18:06 |
gouthamr | ganso: manila-ui* | 18:06 |
vponomaryov | gouthamr: ^ | 18:07 |
gouthamr | vponomaryov: maybe people don't use snapshots :P | 18:07 |
vponomaryov | gouthamr: share creation form snapshot is pretty rare use case | 18:07 |
gouthamr | yes... perhaps not as popular as i used to think that use case was | 18:08 |
vponomaryov | gouthamr: it means backends that are used in prods are solid enough ) | 18:08 |
vponomaryov | gouthamr: to avoid "snapshots" usage | 18:08 |
vponomaryov | gouthamr: anyway, it is 21:08 here and I am still in the office, bye )) | 18:09 |
gouthamr | vponomaryov: :P yes_i_really_mean_it | 18:09 |
gouthamr | vponomaryov: goodnight! | 18:09 |
vponomaryov | evenight )) | 18:10 |
* gouthamr ceph mds set allow_new_snaps true --yes-i-really-mean-it #chuckle | 18:10 | |
ganso | xD | 18:11 |
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