Wednesday, 2017-04-26

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openstackgerritTom Barron proposed openstack/manila master: DO NOT MERGE  https://review.openstack.org/35260601:30
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zhongjungouthamr: ^ ^ misoperation01:39
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zhongjunvkmc: ping :)02:09
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openstackgerritzhongjun proposed openstack/manila-specs master: Add spec for gathering share usage size  https://review.openstack.org/45915002:35
openstackgerritzhongjun proposed openstack/manila-specs master: Add spec for gathering share usage size  https://review.openstack.org/45915002:42
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openstackgerritzhongjun proposed openstack/manila-specs master: Add spec for gathering share usage size  https://review.openstack.org/45915003:16
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openstackgerritShubhendu Poothia proposed openstack/manila master: Set access_policy for messaging's dispatcher  https://review.openstack.org/45994405:25
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openstackgerritYuval Brik proposed openstack/manila master: devstack: clone Manila client only if marked to  https://review.openstack.org/45968907:22
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openstackgerritM V P Nitesh proposed openstack/python-manilaclient master: Optimize the link address  https://review.openstack.org/45554707:28
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jprovazntommylikehu: good afternoon10:37
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jprovazn(or probably evening)10:38
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openstackgerritRamana Raja proposed openstack/manila master: WIP cephfs/driver: add nfs protocol support  https://review.openstack.org/42460511:19
openstackgerritValeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/manila-ui master: Add possibility to revert a share to a snapshot  https://review.openstack.org/45891511:31
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-manilaclient master: Optimize the link address  https://review.openstack.org/45554711:33
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openstackgerritShubhendu Poothia proposed openstack/manila master: Set access_policy for messaging's dispatcher  https://review.openstack.org/45994411:38
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tommylikehuhey jprovazn , saw your comments, thinking....12:17
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digvijay2016 hi.. I have back-ported one bug for openstack/Newton release.. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/459620/12:44
digvijay2016is it possible to get this patch merge into Newton release or only security fixes are going in it now?12:44
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tommylikehusudo ping jprovazn13:32
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jprovazntommylikehu, on a call, back in 3013:33
jprovazntommylikehu, but my previous ping is probably not actual, I had some questions regarding user messages patch, but closer look at the patch answered my questions :)13:34
tommylikehuwow, great. if  any idea comes to you, please let me know13:34
tommylikehujprovazn: I also think that would not be a best solution13:35
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zhongjuntbarron: In usage size tracking spec. Do you mean we could add a common library method to let driver read/write data in memcatched? such as: driver private data.  https://github.com/openstack/manila/blob/master/manila/share/drivers_private_data.py14:34
tbarronzhongjun: it's just a brainstorm at this point14:34
tbarronzhongjun: but now that you aren't using the database, we don't *necessarily* have to be bound by the rules for manager and driver w.r.t. database updates14:35
tbarronzhongjun: if we namespaced the memcached space so that each backend has its own sub-space14:35
tbarronzhongjun: then maybe the backend could do updates directly rather than the manager having to wait for the driver to14:36
tbarronzhongjun: return a big dictionary of share id - usage pairs14:36
tbarronzhongjun: so if some backends take a lot of time to collect the usage info and update14:37
tbarronzhongjun: the manager doesn't have to sit there waiting for them to return the info14:37
tbarronzhongjun: as you know, my main worry about the usage collection is how to scale it and have it perform well14:37
tbarronzhongjun: and I'd like us to think "out of the box" a bit about whether a different design pattern than what we use when14:39
tbarronmanager calls into driver and stores update in database makes sense.14:40
tbarronso it's not really driver private data either, that's data private to the backend, but we still use the old pattern b/c that info goes to the database.14:40
zhongjuntbarron:yeh, if we want to let driver update usage size directly,  then we could also consider about whether the driver solve too much things in driver, it could also have perform problem14:45
tbarronzhongjun: I don't know much about memcached, is writing a key-value there performance intensive?  I was thinking of it basically as an in-memory write ...14:49
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zhongjuntbarron:  yes, it basically as an in-memory write. ok, if we let driver update usage size directly, it could increase a little bit time in driver.14:58
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tbarronzhongjun: we have a manager (linux) process per backend, and the driver runs in that process too15:08
tbarronzhongjun: but they are async-threaded15:08
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tbarronzhongjun: so it may depend on whether the manager can do useful work that it wouldn't otherwise be able to do if it had to wait for the driver to collect all that info and return it to it, and the manager then has to write the results to memcached.15:09
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tbarronzhongjun: as I say, it's the synchronous call-and-wait into a driver who then has to spend time that scales with the number of shares it handles that concerns me15:10
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zhongjuntbarron: agree with you15:13
openstackgerritValeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/manila-ui master: Add possibility to revert a share to a snapshot  https://review.openstack.org/45891515:26
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openstackgerritzhongjun proposed openstack/manila-specs master: Add spec for gathering share usage size  https://review.openstack.org/45915015:32
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openstackgerritValeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/manila-ui master: Fix share creation from snapshot  https://review.openstack.org/46024818:03
vponomaryovganso: ^18:04
vponomaryovganso: this bug has been existing for 19 months ))18:04
gansovponomaryov: best proof that nobody has been using manila18:06
vponomaryovganso: this feature via UI18:06
gouthamro,O18:06
gouthamrganso: manila-ui*18:06
vponomaryovgouthamr: ^18:07
gouthamrvponomaryov: maybe people don't use snapshots :P18:07
vponomaryovgouthamr: share creation form snapshot is pretty rare use case18:07
gouthamryes... perhaps not as popular as i used to think that use case was18:08
vponomaryovgouthamr: it means backends that are used in prods are solid enough )18:08
vponomaryovgouthamr: to avoid "snapshots" usage18:08
vponomaryovgouthamr: anyway, it is 21:08 here and I am still in the office, bye ))18:09
gouthamrvponomaryov: :P yes_i_really_mean_it18:09
gouthamrvponomaryov: goodnight!18:09
vponomaryovevenight ))18:10
* gouthamr ceph mds set allow_new_snaps true --yes-i-really-mean-it #chuckle18:10
gansoxD18:11
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