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openstackgerrit | M V P Nitesh proposed openstack/manila master: Optimize the link address https://review.openstack.org/455523 | 06:15 |
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openstackgerrit | M V P Nitesh proposed openstack/manila-image-elements master: Optimize the link address https://review.openstack.org/455525 | 06:21 |
openstackgerrit | M V P Nitesh proposed openstack/manila-specs master: Optimize the link address https://review.openstack.org/455529 | 06:27 |
jprovazn | tommylikehu, good afternoon | 06:44 |
openstackgerrit | M V P Nitesh proposed openstack/manila-ui master: Optimize the link address https://review.openstack.org/455545 | 06:44 |
jprovazn | tommylikehu, I wonder if you be around later today when goutham is online - we could discuss event_id column to speed up things | 06:45 |
jprovazn | s/you be/you will be/ | 06:45 |
openstackgerrit | M V P Nitesh proposed openstack/python-manilaclient master: Optimize the link address https://review.openstack.org/455547 | 06:48 |
tommylikehu | hey jprovazn I am here | 07:01 |
tommylikehu | would be online before 10pm utc+8, I think goutham is more like the first version in cinder. | 07:03 |
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openstackgerrit | zhongjun proposed openstack/manila-specs master: Add spec for infinite share https://review.openstack.org/452097 | 07:16 |
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jprovazn | tommylikehu, hi, if you will be online before 10pm utc+8, goutham should be around at that time | 07:21 |
jprovazn | tommylikehu, not sure what you mean by "goutham is more like the first version in cinder"? | 07:21 |
tommylikehu | goutham is more like the implementation we already have in cinder :) | 07:24 |
tommylikehu | jprovazn: he doesn't think we would have that much defined event_ids in manila, so we don't need to add the autpgenerated event_ids | 07:25 |
jprovazn | tommylikehu, my opinion regarding event_id is quite neutral - I prefer to align implementation in cinder and manila. I can see it beneficial as it provides the constant of detail field, on the other side I agree that if this detail constant would be returned thorugh api (so we return all parts from which event_id is generated), then there is no reason to have this event_id present and client can easily categorize messages hims | 07:29 |
jprovazn | elf | 07:29 |
tommylikehu | jprovazn: yes, I think the true issue behind the auto-generated decision is whether we should use event_id or action+detail to describe what happened inside | 07:33 |
tommylikehu | If gouthamr has a strong opinion on that, I think maybe we could take the same step as cinder did, because it's easy to change or optimise in the future, | 07:35 |
jprovazn | tommylikehu, well, for manila spec gouthamr argued against presence of event_id, use of action+detail is probably fine (at least based on spec comments) | 07:37 |
jprovazn | tommylikehu, yes, if it turns out event_id is needed/wanted, it can be added in a next step. So if you are fine with not having it in cinder spec, I'll remove it from manila spec :) | 07:38 |
tommylikehu | I am surely ok with that, thanks | 07:39 |
jprovazn | tommylikehu, cool | 07:39 |
openstackgerrit | Jan Provaznik proposed openstack/manila-specs master: Add spec for user messages https://review.openstack.org/434277 | 07:47 |
openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/manila-ui master: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/455567 | 07:54 |
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zhongjun_ | bswartz: ping | 08:51 |
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openstackgerrit | zhongjun proposed openstack/manila-specs master: Enhance update shares https://review.openstack.org/453553 | 09:27 |
openstackgerrit | zhongjun proposed openstack/manila-specs master: Add spec for infinite share https://review.openstack.org/452097 | 09:28 |
openstackgerrit | zhongjun proposed openstack/manila-specs master: Enhance update shares https://review.openstack.org/453553 | 09:32 |
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openstackgerrit | Valeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/manila master: [WIP] Add quotas per share type support https://review.openstack.org/452158 | 12:18 |
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zhongjun_ | vponomaryov: ping | 12:24 |
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zhongjun_ | vponomaryov: I only have two goals in two specs. 1. change logic of "ensure share" in more efficient way compared to current one.(need restart) 2. update share info without restart in enhance-ensure-share. I split of one spec to two, becuase of we wants spec goal more clear in one spec: please see this link. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/446494/13/specs/pike/ensure-share.rst@14 We could discuss with bswartz. | 12:35 |
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vponomaryov | zhongjun_: pong | 13:10 |
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vponomaryov | zhongjun_: second statement says "This spec should not refer to ensure_share", and you refer to it in both specs | 13:17 |
vponomaryov | zhongjun_: so, split is not correct now considering this comment | 13:18 |
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openstackgerrit | Valeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/manila-specs master: Add spec for share_groups quota resource https://review.openstack.org/452270 | 14:16 |
openstackgerrit | Valeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/manila-specs master: Add spec for share_groups quota resource https://review.openstack.org/452270 | 14:18 |
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: latest base images have mistakenly put python3 in some places expecting python2 causing widespread failure of docs patches - fixes are underway | 14:26 | |
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gouthamr | vponomaryov: ^ :P | 14:33 |
vponomaryov | gouthamr: i knew it is Ci problem, because it works locally | 14:34 |
gouthamr | vponomaryov: i was going to give you credit for breaking it | 14:34 |
vponomaryov | gouthamr: just it is unclear when starts workign again | 14:34 |
gouthamr | vponomaryov: :) yes... 'spose we'll get another status update. | 14:35 |
vponomaryov | gouthamr: sure, in any unknown situation you can blame me ^_^ | 14:35 |
gouthamr | :D #thanksvponomaryov | 14:35 |
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vponomaryov | gouthamr: is Easter day is working day for you? | 14:36 |
gouthamr | vponomaryov: it's sunday, isn't it.. | 14:37 |
vponomaryov | gouthamr: monday, after it | 14:37 |
vponomaryov | gouthamr: you know, each holiday that appears to happen on Sunday or Sat should be compensated with some working day | 14:38 |
tommylikehu | ping zhongjun_ , gouthamr | 14:38 |
gouthamr | vponomaryov: ah... no monday is a working day at NetApp. | 14:38 |
vponomaryov | gouthamr: ok, ty for info | 14:38 |
tommylikehu | gouthamr: thanks you are here | 14:39 |
gouthamr | tommylikehu: hey! | 14:39 |
Zhongjun__ | goutharmr: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266688/ hi | 14:39 |
tommylikehu | I think we are proposing the same thing in manila and cinder | 14:40 |
Zhongjun__ | gouthamr: Did you want to add regex filter in this spec? | 14:40 |
tommylikehu | gouthamr: so you misunderstand the propose in manila that we are going to support regex? | 14:40 |
gouthamr | tommylikehu: currently we support 'exact' filters... imo we shouldn't overload them | 14:41 |
gouthamr | tommylikehu: i think we can accept regex as part of the same filters if wildcards are present | 14:42 |
gouthamr | also, the spec doesn't propose limiting these filters to certain fields... | 14:43 |
gouthamr | s/filters/'LIKE' searches | 14:43 |
tommylikehu | why we should also introduce regex as well as like operator | 14:43 |
tommylikehu | the last point make sense | 14:43 |
tommylikehu | Zhongjun__: | 14:44 |
tommylikehu | gouthamr: I am a little afraid whether I get your point on overload the exact filters | 14:46 |
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Zhongjun__ | gouthamr: As the spec said: "Although we can provide filtering resource based on regex filter, but there is a possibility that we could have ReDos `[3]`_ attack." We don't support regex in this filter | 14:48 |
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tommylikehu | Zhongjun__: based on my understanding of gouthamr 's comments | 14:50 |
tommylikehu | I think his concerns are about these two: | 14:51 |
tommylikehu | 1. we should announce which column we would apply 'like' filter | 14:51 |
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tommylikehu | 2. this change should not affect the original usages... | 14:53 |
gouthamr | tommylikehu: +1 | 14:53 |
gouthamr | tommylikehu: +1 | 14:53 |
gouthamr | for both points... | 14:53 |
gouthamr | Zhongjun__: sorry, was in a short meeting and will be leaving soon for another one... | 14:53 |
gouthamr | Zhongjun__: i may not be understanding this entirely... correct me if i'm wrong.. we now have name=xyz returning all shares that are named xyz | 14:55 |
gouthamr | Zhongjun__: after your change, we'll have name=xyz returning shares that begin with xyz | 14:55 |
tommylikehu | include xyz | 14:55 |
tommylikehu | or contains | 14:55 |
Zhongjun__ | gouthamr: yes include xyz( 1_xyz_1 4_xyz) | 14:56 |
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Zhongjun__ | gouthamr:.op('LIKE')(u'%' + name + u'%')) | 14:56 |
gouthamr | tommylikehu: okay.. i get your point about regex filtering, thanks. However, i still think we shouldn't overwrite the semantics of name=xyz for that.. | 14:57 |
gouthamr | tommylikehu, Zhongjun__: sorry got to run to this meeting. will comment on the patch if you respond to those comments | 14:57 |
tommylikehu | gouthamr: what's your main concerns on that ? | 14:58 |
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tommylikehu | overwrite the semantics of name=xyz.. | 14:58 |
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tommylikehu | gouthamr: you should be in meeting 2, so maybe please leave your comments there, thanks | 14:59 |
tbarron | gouthamr: tommylikehu Zhongjun__ I think gouthamr should make his comment about overloading on the cinder spec too. We should drive that conversation to a consistent conclusion across the two projects since | 15:02 |
tbarron | there is really nothing manila-specific or cinder-specific about what the api should look like for this | 15:03 |
tommylikehu | tbarron: in cinder this change will only affect the filter and list APIs | 15:03 |
tbarron | tommylikehu: I thought in manila it was only going to affect list apis? | 15:04 |
* tbarron may not be up-to-date | 15:04 | |
tommylikehu | haha, my point is based on the implementation | 15:04 |
tbarron | I know the sqlalchemy details are different in the two projects, but why wouldn't we have a consistent REST api? | 15:05 |
tommylikehu | tbarron: if we don't affect the orignal list APIs, the new one would be a little strange for end user | 15:06 |
tommylikehu | something like manila list name like 123? | 15:06 |
tommylikehu | maybe I am a little misunderstanding your point, my point is we should change the list API behaviours | 15:07 |
tbarron | my only point is that we should do it the same way in both projects at the REST api level; I'd hate to see manila insist on no overload and cinder go on and overload, or whatever. | 15:08 |
tbarron | it's an inconsistent experience for actual cloud users for no good reason. | 15:09 |
Zhongjun__ | tbarron: Do you want to add a flag in list API, like this "manila list --name=text --exactly=False/True" | 15:09 |
tommylikehu | tbarron: ok, that point you always have at the begining | 15:09 |
tbarron | Zhongjun__: I just want gouthamr to make exactly the same argument he's making in manila on the cinder spec | 15:10 |
tbarron | Zhongjun__: and then for you and tommylikehu to work through that issue in both projects to a consistent resolution. | 15:10 |
tbarron | Zhongjun__: I'll watch both specs and offer my opinions there, but I think those opinions aren't as important as the one I'm expressing right now: let's do it in a consistent way across the two projects unless there's a really good reason not to do so. | 15:11 |
* tbarron can't imagine what that would be at the moment | 15:11 | |
tommylikehu | Zhongjun__: +1 | 15:12 |
Zhongjun__ | tbarron: We always have a consistent way in the end. | 15:12 |
tbarron | Zhongjun__: well, maybe when you and tommylikehu work on both projects, we do. But historically | 15:13 |
tbarron | sometimes cinder and manila have done APIs differently for no good reason. | 15:13 |
tommylikehu | ping jprovazn | 15:17 |
Zhongjun__ | tommylikehu, tbarron: We will do it ASAP, but two projects has many different things, such as: spec deadline | 15:17 |
tommylikehu | one question about your user messages spec, why are you going to clear out the expired messages by administrator's command instead of clean them automatically | 15:19 |
tommylikehu | jprovazn: : | 15:19 |
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Zhongjun__ | vponomaryov: If we don't care about another one(enhance update shares), is it ok for this spec(ensure share) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/446494/. | 15:27 |
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jprovazn | tommylikehu, either would work, I consider manage command as a more flexible way where admin can better manage this | 15:46 |
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Zhongjun__ | gouthamr: hi, I respond to your inline comments, please take a look when you out of meeting. thanks in advance https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447775/9/specs/pike/add-like-filter.rst | 16:09 |
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openstackgerrit | zhongjun proposed openstack/manila-specs master: Add spec for infinite share https://review.openstack.org/452097 | 16:27 |
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openstackgerrit | zhongjun proposed openstack/manila-specs master: Add spec for infinite share https://review.openstack.org/452097 | 16:36 |
openstackgerrit | Valeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/manila master: Add quotas per share type https://review.openstack.org/452158 | 16:38 |
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gouthamr | zhongjun_ tommylikehu tbarron: commented on both patches... | 17:36 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/manila-specs master: Add spec for user messages https://review.openstack.org/434277 | 20:27 |
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tommylikehu | Ping gouthamr from my cellphone | 23:44 |
gouthamr | tommylikehu: pong | 23:44 |
tommylikehu | I think there is a little difference between cinder and manila on like filter | 23:45 |
tommylikehu | If cinder is finally combined the like filter spec and generilaze filter spec | 23:46 |
gouthamr | tommylikehu: that would be good, however, things that can be searched with field like will still be limited. | 23:46 |
gouthamr | "field like xyz" | 23:47 |
tommylikehu | The possible result of that is the administrator will have the ability to decide which one is a filter and which one is a like filter | 23:47 |
gouthamr | why not allow both variants to be present? | 23:47 |
gouthamr | name=xyz, name_like=xyz | 23:48 |
tommylikehu | I reckon it's a little strange | 23:48 |
tommylikehu | Do you know any other projects have this behaviour as yoi said | 23:48 |
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gouthamr | tommylikehu: related q: have you seen searchlight's API (in turn, elastic search API)? | 23:49 |
tommylikehu | I mean the peoject which using this searchlight | 23:49 |
tommylikehu | I havn't used searchlight | 23:50 |
gouthamr | tommylikehu: name_regex was proposed to ironic as zhongjun noted, i tried looking for it in implementation: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266688/ | 23:50 |
tommylikehu | yes? | 23:51 |
tommylikehu | Ok | 23:51 |
gouthamr | tommylikehu: me neither, but i've used elastic search REST API, and this here: https://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/search/ it seems to be built on top of it | 23:52 |
tommylikehu | And we have nova and karbor which doesn't act in this way | 23:52 |
tommylikehu | So which one should we choose | 23:52 |
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gouthamr | tommylikehu: i'm for clear separation between exact and non-exact (contains, does not contain etc.) querying.... it seems semantically easier to consume without confusion | 23:58 |
tommylikehu | querying from inside the projects or outside? | 23:59 |
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