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| openstackgerrit | zhongshengping proposed openstack/puppet-manila master: Add rpc_response_timeout option https://review.openstack.org/429514 | 06:07 |
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| rhagarty | tbarron, bswartz: FYI - my nova_net_id issue when a creating share network went away after I pulled latest manila_ui. Thanks | 06:20 |
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| tommylikehu | ping tbarron | 10:46 |
| tbarron | tommylikehu: hi | 10:46 |
| tommylikehu | tbarron: you just had your new year gala show in USA yesterday :) | 10:51 |
| tbarron | tommylikehu: yes, interesting timing I guess :) | 10:52 |
| tommylikehu | tbarron: why? | 10:52 |
| tbarron | tommylikehu: I don't think I got a chance to wish you happy new year, but I do hope you have a great one! | 10:53 |
| tbarron | tommylikehu: I just mean that we do superbowl at lunar new year | 10:53 |
| tommylikehu | tbarron: yes it's your lunar new year :) | 10:53 |
| tbarron | tommylikehu: maybe there's a universal need for a lunar new year so we end up having an unofficial holiday then | 10:54 |
| tommylikehu | tbarron:that is true, but you don't have holidays for that now, right? | 10:55 |
| tbarron | tommylikehu: no we don't | 10:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Rodrigo Barbieri proposed openstack/manila master: [DNM] Testing cfgs for 3rd Party CI Scenario tests https://review.openstack.org/429644 | 10:56 |
| tbarron | tommylikehu: I haven't read your revised backup spec yet but will try to take a look soon. | 10:56 |
| tommylikehu | tbarron:thanks so much, and luckily I think I have a chance to wish you happy new year(wish it's not too late :) ) | 10:58 |
| tbarron | tommylikehu: never too late, thanks. | 10:58 |
| tommylikehu | tbarron, do you happen to know which of us is working on implement manila command in OSC? | 11:05 |
| tbarron | tommylikehu: Mauricio Lima has been working on a spec for this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/395775/ | 11:08 |
| tommylikehu | tbarron: thanks~ | 11:08 |
| tbarron | tommylikehu: I think there are two main challenges for making progress on manila with OSC. | 11:11 |
| tbarron | tommylikehu: #1) microversions - OSC currently doesn't handle them. | 11:11 |
| tbarron | #2) desire to be able to run manila standalone, w/o the rest of OpenStack: means there needs to be some kind of plugin capability in OSC so that OSC and a manila-only shell could share common core. | 11:12 |
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| tommylikehu | tbarron: so we probably not going to support OSC until these two main concerns are fixed/supported, at lease we will support this in low priority? | 11:25 |
| tbarron | tommylikehu: I think that is the prevailing opinion among manila developers. | 11:27 |
| tbarron | tommylikehu: that said, I know we have customers who see it as a sign that manila is less mature & established than projects which are integrated into OSC. | 11:28 |
| tommylikehu | tbarron: that could be kind of prejudice. | 11:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Tom Barron proposed openstack/manila master: DNM: Update our tempest pin https://review.openstack.org/428230 | 11:41 |
| tbarron | tommylikehu: well, I can see operators point of view who want to be able to use a single client with consistent syntax to be able to manage their whole openstack cloud. | 11:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Tom Barron proposed openstack/manila master: Do not merge - baseline https://review.openstack.org/428463 | 11:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Rodrigo Barbieri proposed openstack/manila-specs master: Update Share Migration Ocata Improvements Spec https://review.openstack.org/407145 | 11:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Valeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/manila master: Disable share groups APIs by default https://review.openstack.org/428840 | 12:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Valeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/manila master: Disable share groups APIs by default https://review.openstack.org/428840 | 12:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/puppet-manila master: Prepare ocata-rc1 release https://review.openstack.org/429089 | 12:22 |
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| tommylikehu | ping vponomaryov | 12:27 |
| vponomaryov | tommylikehu: зщтп | 12:50 |
| vponomaryov | tommylikehu: pong | 12:50 |
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| arnewiebalck_ | tbarron: tommylikehu: for our cloud, the lack of Manila OSC support meant additional clients, creation of pre-configured docker images, additional documentation, and certainly user surprise that they have to use a dedicated client while we tell them since a while to move to the OSC for other projects. | 12:55 |
| tbarron | arnewiebalck_: good data point - you have that little CERN cloud, right? -D | 12:58 |
| arnewiebalck_ | tbarron: yes :) | 12:58 |
| tbarron | arnewiebalck_: Are by any chance going to be at the PTG in Atlanta? | 12:59 |
| arnewiebalck_ | tbarron: no, I won’t; there will be someone from our team, though; I’ll be at the summit. | 13:01 |
| tbarron | arnewiebalck_: ok, I'm just interested in getting real deployers interacting with the manila developers. | 13:03 |
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| arnewiebalck_ | tbarron: I’ve submitted a talk for the summit :) | 13:03 |
| tbarron | arnewiebalck_: good! | 13:04 |
| tbarron | arnewiebalck_: subject? (besides the mandatory LHC slides, etc.) | 13:05 |
| arnewiebalck_ | tbarron: basically how we moved Manila into production | 13:06 |
| tbarron | arnewiebalck_: awesome. | 13:06 |
| arnewiebalck_ | tbarron: we’re about to do some scale/stress tests maybe 1’000 concurrent clients (if we manage), suggestions what to test or look for are more than welcome! | 13:07 |
| arnewiebalck_ | tbarron: I was about to ask that but figured that all of you are pretty busy atm ;) | 13:07 |
| vponomaryov | arnewiebalck_: just curios, which backends do you use in prod? or it is secret? | 13:14 |
| arnewiebalck_ | vponomaryov: we use CephFS | 13:15 |
| vponomaryov | arnewiebalck_: you use UI part too? | 13:16 |
| arnewiebalck_ | vponomaryov: yes (hence my patches in the past months ;-)) | 13:17 |
| arnewiebalck_ | vponomaryov: for clarification, Manila is kind of in pre-prod atm, it should have made to full production by summit time | 13:18 |
| vponomaryov | arnewiebalck_: good to know, thank you | 13:18 |
| vponomaryov | arnewiebalck_: also, if not secret, what is use case for using Manila? | 13:21 |
| vponomaryov | arnewiebalck_: in your case | 13:21 |
| arnewiebalck_ | vponomaryov: at least ath moment, Manila and CephFS are closely linked in our case | 13:23 |
| vponomaryov | arnewiebalck_: I mean waht do you do with "shares" | 13:24 |
| arnewiebalck_ | vponomaryov: we have users that request CephFS (e.g. HPC for POSIX) and Manila is a convenient way to hand out shares | 13:24 |
| arnewiebalck_ | vponomaryov: CephFS is also a candidate to provide reliable shared storage | 13:25 |
| arnewiebalck_ | vponomaryov: we have NFS for this at the moment | 13:25 |
| vponomaryov | arnewiebalck_: so, it is end-user storage place? Not back-up place, not DB-layout? | 13:25 |
| arnewiebalck_ | vponomaryov: yes | 13:25 |
| arnewiebalck_ | vponomaryov: we plan to have running services on top of this | 13:26 |
| arnewiebalck_ | vponomaryov: services and HPC applications | 13:27 |
| vponomaryov | arnewiebalck_: interesting, thank you ) | 13:27 |
| arnewiebalck_ | vponomaryov: but it is not end-user in the sense of home directory | 13:27 |
| vponomaryov | arnewiebalck_: under "end-user" I mean VM/machine that is used by concrete person for his own needs, not by service nodes | 13:29 |
| arnewiebalck_ | vponomaryov: it’s meant for services (e.g. our HTCondor masters, our GitLab nodes, the JIRA cluster, …) | 13:32 |
| vponomaryov | ok ) | 13:32 |
| vponomaryov | arnewiebalck_:and now you use "shares" too, but provisioned by other means than Manila, right? | 13:33 |
| arnewiebalck_ | vponomaryov: yes, we have several storage solutions to serve the various needs; they are prvisioned in different ways; we try now to provide CephFS exclusively through Manila | 13:35 |
| vponomaryov | arnewiebalck_: and what about network segregation? | 13:37 |
| vponomaryov | arnewiebalck_: do you need it in your cloud? | 13:37 |
| vponomaryov | arnewiebalck_: or usage of same network for all is ok? | 13:37 |
| arnewiebalck_ | vponomaryov: segregation between? | 13:37 |
| vponomaryov | arnewiebalck_: tenants or reguions... | 13:37 |
| vponomaryov | s/reguions/regions/ | 13:38 |
| arnewiebalck_ | vponomaryov: anyway, the answer is “no" :-D | 13:38 |
| vponomaryov | arnewiebalck_: ok )) | 13:38 |
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| tommylikehu | thanks vponomaryov, I think your comments have been addressed: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/406776/, also paste my configuration for dummy drivers there :) | 14:00 |
| tommylikehu | arnewiebalck_: thanks for your explanation | 14:01 |
| arnewiebalck_ | tommylikehu: np! | 14:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Valeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/manila master: Fix default approach for share group snapshot creation https://review.openstack.org/427811 | 14:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Valeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/manila master: Add 'consistent_snapshot_support' attr to 'share_groups' DB model https://review.openstack.org/428748 | 14:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/manila master: WIP: Revert "Fix Generic driver DHSS=False setup" https://review.openstack.org/429729 | 14:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/manila master: Fix devstack manila nfs install for fedora https://review.openstack.org/412232 | 15:53 |
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| bswartz | vponomaryov: jenkins gave you 2 -1s | 16:17 |
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| vponomaryov | bswartz: I see, one is false and one is correct | 16:46 |
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| mriedem | vponomaryov: i reverted the workaround for the manila devstack setup for that nova server list bug, and ci all passed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/429729/ | 17:04 |
| vponomaryov | mriedem: have you seen my comment there? | 17:04 |
| mriedem | so we might have already fixed whatever the issue was - we had several fixes going into nova last week related to that code, so something might have already got it | 17:04 |
| mriedem | vponomaryov: so manila devstack wasn't creating the cells v2 stuff before? | 17:04 |
| mriedem | if so, then the bug is invalid | 17:04 |
| vponomaryov | mriedem: the bug is about "hiding" servers | 17:05 |
| vponomaryov | mriedem: and it exists | 17:05 |
| mriedem | vponomaryov: cells v2 is required | 17:05 |
| mriedem | and the cells v2 setup is required | 17:05 |
| mriedem | so if that wasn't happening before, then that was at least part of the issue | 17:05 |
| vponomaryov | mriedem: how is ti related for hiding servers? | 17:05 |
| mriedem | vponomaryov: if there was an issue, i'm saying it might have been fixed last week when we fixed several other related issues, | 17:06 |
| vponomaryov | mriedem: no, devstack creates cell now earlier | 17:06 |
| mriedem | and since i've reverted that workaround for devstack setup in manila, and it all passed, it seems it's not an issue | 17:06 |
| vponomaryov | mriedem: we do not reproduce bug steps anymore | 17:06 |
| vponomaryov | mriedem: looks like you haven't read my comment in that revert commit yet | 17:07 |
| mriedem | "devstack creates cell now earlier" - was there a change in devstack for that or in manila? | 17:07 |
| mriedem | i just did | 17:07 |
| vponomaryov | mriedem: I haven't searched for it, but I see order of steps in devstack logs | 17:07 |
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| vponomaryov | mriedem: now it creates cell much earlier | 17:07 |
| vponomaryov | mriedem: and manila runs now after it | 17:07 |
| vponomaryov | mriedem: so, devstack setup was fixed | 17:08 |
| vponomaryov | but not Nova API | 17:08 |
| vponomaryov | mriedem: bug still exist | 17:08 |
| mriedem | i don't see anything in https://github.com/openstack/manila/commits/master/devstack that shows a change like that | 17:08 |
| mriedem | or https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/commits/master/lib/nova | 17:08 |
| vponomaryov | mriedem: why are you looking in manila code? | 17:08 |
| mriedem | because you guys have a devstack plugin | 17:09 |
| vponomaryov | mriedem: cell creation runs earlier | 17:09 |
| vponomaryov | mriedem: manila does not touch it | 17:09 |
| mriedem | there is nothing after 1/24 in either of those places which changes when the cell is created | 17:09 |
| mriedem | so, it's possible that one of the fixes that went into nova last week fixed this issue | 17:10 |
| vponomaryov | mriedem: Matt )) | 17:10 |
| vponomaryov | mriedem: you mean this -> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427394/2/nova/compute/api.py ? | 17:13 |
| mriedem | that was one of them but you're not running cells v1 in your manila dsvm jobs, | 17:14 |
| mriedem | so i don't think that would make any difference here | 17:14 |
| mriedem | that was to fix a problem we were seeing in the cells v1 job | 17:14 |
| vponomaryov | right | 17:15 |
| mriedem | if you didn't have cells setup properly when you hit this, you'd see this error in the logs https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427394/2/nova/compute/api.py@2536 | 17:15 |
| mriedem | do you have a link to a patch that failed with this bug? | 17:15 |
| vponomaryov | mriedem: looking for it | 17:17 |
| vponomaryov | mriedem: http://logs.openstack.org/64/355264/26/check/gate-manila-tempest-dsvm-generic-no-share-servers-ubuntu-xenial-nv/889af0f/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz | 17:19 |
| mriedem | i don't see simple_cell_setup run in there | 17:20 |
| vponomaryov | mriedem: right | 17:20 |
| vponomaryov | mriedem: it was ruinning at that time right before "test-config" section in devstack | 17:20 |
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| vponomaryov | mriedem: so, noone really could create servers during devtack run | 17:21 |
| vponomaryov | mriedem: now can | 17:21 |
| vponomaryov | mriedem: because this step was moved earlier | 17:21 |
| vponomaryov | mriedem: cell creation step | 17:21 |
| mriedem | it wasn't moved in devstack, | 17:21 |
| vponomaryov | mriedem: but it does not remove bug in Nova itself | 17:21 |
| mriedem | so i'm not sure what changed | 17:21 |
| mriedem | vponomaryov: cells v2 must be setup before you can do anything with nova-api in ocata | 17:21 |
| mriedem | period | 17:21 |
| mriedem | it's an upgrade implication | 17:22 |
| mriedem | cells v2 is required in ocata | 17:22 |
| vponomaryov | mriedem: it is one of possible reproduce approaches | 17:22 |
| vponomaryov | mriedem: bug can be reproduced even with set up cells | 17:22 |
| vponomaryov | mriedem: just need to get error before assigning cell to server | 17:22 |
| vponomaryov | mriedem: or list servers before it got schecduled | 17:22 |
| vponomaryov | mriedem: it is concurrency-prone | 17:22 |
| mriedem | and i already said we fixed a few bugs with races in that space last week | 17:22 |
| mriedem | concurrency issues | 17:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/puppet-manila master: Add rpc_response_timeout option https://review.openstack.org/429514 | 17:23 |
| mriedem | likely this https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/8ba92778fe14b47ad4ff5b53022e0550a93f37d3 | 17:23 |
| mriedem | actually that shouldn't be related to your issue, | 17:24 |
| mriedem | since your flow isn't deleting the server before it's active | 17:24 |
| vponomaryov | mriedem: yes, bug being descussed is only API-related and listing scheduled servers | 17:25 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/319379/ merged on 1/27 it's possible something was going wrong between those 2 changes | 17:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/manila master: Revert "Fix Generic driver DHSS=False setup" https://review.openstack.org/429729 | 17:26 |
| vponomaryov | mriedem: no need to revert, current approach uses less API calls | 17:27 |
| mriedem | ok abandoned | 17:28 |
| vponomaryov | mriedem: ok, considering that, bug I reported is low-priority, we can leave it unfixed, even though I haven't convinced anybody in its existence ) | 17:30 |
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