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| openstackgerrit | sunxifa proposed openstack/octavia master: Fix vip security group update https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/octavia/+/769012 | 01:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lingxian Kong proposed openstack/octavia stable/ussuri: Use 'bash' in the keepalived check script https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/octavia/+/767788 | 01:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | sunxifa proposed openstack/octavia master: Fix listener delete with missing certificates https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/octavia/+/768909 | 03:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gregory Thiemonge proposed openstack/octavia stable/train: Fix lower-constraints https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/octavia/+/769348 | 07:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gregory Thiemonge proposed openstack/octavia stable/stein: Cap bandit for stein and bump lower-constraints https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/octavia/+/765853 | 12:28 |
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| rm_work | #startmeeting Octavia | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 6 16:00:01 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rm_work. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'octavia' | 16:00 |
| rm_work | Welcome back folks, and welcome to 2021! | 16:00 |
| johnsom | o/ | 16:00 |
| rm_work | #chair johnsom | 16:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: johnsom rm_work | 16:00 |
| gthiemonge | hi | 16:00 |
| rm_work | oh good, someone else is actually here :P | 16:01 |
| rm_work | o/ | 16:01 |
| rm_work | #topic Announcements | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 16:01 | |
| rm_work | already covered this one a little bit | 16:01 |
| haleyb | hi | 16:01 |
| rm_work | Happy New Year! Welcome to 2021! We're living in the future! The future is now! | 16:01 |
| johnsom | ohhh-Ahhhh-wow | 16:02 |
| johnsom | grin | 16:02 |
| johnsom | Does that mean I can retire? | 16:02 |
| johnsom | Oh, maybe not *that* far into the future | 16:02 |
| rm_work | In the words of my wife: no retiring! work until you die! :D | 16:02 |
| rm_work | (who wins that argument is still up in the air) | 16:03 |
| rm_work | (pretty sure it's gonna be me) | 16:03 |
| rm_work | So any other annoucements? | 16:03 |
| johnsom | Yeah, sadly it isn't coming any time soon for me | 16:03 |
| rm_work | *announcements | 16:03 |
| rm_work | just ride the BTC to retirement? :P | 16:03 |
| rm_work | anywho... | 16:03 |
| rm_work | I don't really have anything else. | 16:04 |
| rm_work | How far are we from code freeze now? I feel like we've just started the cycle, so code freeze must be like next week, right? lol | 16:04 |
| rm_work | cgoncalves are you around or out on vacation? | 16:05 |
| johnsom | Vacation today | 16:05 |
| rm_work | cool cool | 16:05 |
| rm_work | me too (mentally) | 16:05 |
| johnsom | MS2 is January 18t | 16:05 |
| rm_work | physically, I'm right here with all of you. metaphorically. | 16:05 |
| rm_work | lol ok great so kidding-not-kidding on these milestones sneaking up on us | 16:06 |
| johnsom | Last day for libs is first week in March | 16:06 |
| johnsom | Yes, VERY fast | 16:06 |
| rm_work | anywho, moving on | 16:06 |
| rm_work | #topic Brief progress reports / bugs needing review | 16:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Brief progress reports / bugs needing review (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 16:06 | |
| johnsom | I have been on vacation, so nothing to report | 16:06 |
| gthiemonge | I have a few (lower-constraints fixes on stable branches) | 16:07 |
| gthiemonge | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/octavia/+/768464 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/octavia/+/769268 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/octavia/+/769348 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/octavia/+/765853 | 16:07 |
| rm_work | My progress: none. I have done essentially nothing this cycle... except one bugfix attempt here: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/octavia/+/767648 | 16:07 |
| gthiemonge | last one is not passing the requirements-check yet, but I'm not losing hope | 16:08 |
| rm_work | which I have no idea if it's the right approach or not, i just gave it a quick go, but turns out we don't need that patch internally so I kinda lost interest <_< | 16:08 |
| rm_work | I'll try to pick it up again once i've gotten through the majority of the post-long-moratorium fires | 16:09 |
| rm_work | so yeah... guess that's it | 16:11 |
| rm_work | #topic Open Discussion | 16:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 16:11 | |
| rm_work | so how bout them Mets? | 16:11 |
| rm_work | anyone else have anything? | 16:11 |
| johnsom | No idea, are they even playing? | 16:12 |
| johnsom | I don't have anything else this week | 16:12 |
| haleyb | rm_work: have a question for you on https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/octavia/+/656811/ - there was a comment about using threshold as a % | 16:12 |
| * haleyb snuck that one in under the wire | 16:13 | |
| rm_work | I'm going to try to pick up smoking (meats) so I am spending way too much of my free time watching brisket smoking videos. | 16:13 |
| rm_work | really embracing the "open" in "open discussion" | 16:13 |
| rm_work | that's all I've got | 16:13 |
| rm_work | hmmm yeah percentages | 16:13 |
| haleyb | rm_work: i could update, think it's pretty straight forward | 16:13 |
| rm_work | Percentage is.... | 16:14 |
| rm_work | I don't think that's what we want honestly? like... | 16:14 |
| rm_work | I see why you could think you want that | 16:14 |
| rm_work | but I gave it some thought and IMO at any given point there should be essentially zero | 16:14 |
| johnsom | One thing on that RFE idea we need to consider is how to override that should the cloud situation require it. I.e. once we hit that threshold, then what..... | 16:14 |
| rm_work | in a tiny cloud, i don't think i'd want to limit it to like 10% because that could be ONE and that doesn't tell you anything | 16:14 |
| rm_work | in a huge cloud, 10% would be WAY too high, i'd still want it to stop after like 5-10 | 16:15 |
| johnsom | Make it a float. 0.00000001% | 16:15 |
| johnsom | grin | 16:15 |
| rm_work | lol i mean, point being the same percentage is wrong for both in opposite ways | 16:15 |
| rm_work | 10% too small for a tiny cloud and too big for a large one | 16:16 |
| rm_work | I just want to set it to like ... 5 | 16:16 |
| * rm_work shrugs | 16:16 | |
| haleyb | yeah, it's knowing what to set it at... | 16:16 |
| rm_work | 5? or 10 :D | 16:16 |
| rm_work | you know your environment | 16:16 |
| haleyb | and it's 3 clearly :) | 16:16 |
| rm_work | you can change it as the env grows if you think you need to | 16:16 |
| rm_work | I SAID FIVE, BRIAN | 16:16 |
| johnsom | 42 | 16:16 |
| rm_work | lol | 16:17 |
| haleyb | 5 is right out | 16:17 |
| rm_work | anywho, percent is fine? but i think it isn't actually what people want, it's just what they think they want | 16:17 |
| johnsom | Yeah, I know we started a discussion over should it be percent or absolute value. I don't remember where that came out. | 16:17 |
| rm_work | dunno, could add it, but i'm not going to | 16:17 |
| rm_work | someone else can do the work? but it needs to support BOTH | 16:17 |
| rm_work | and not be hilariously confusing like "10" and "10%" being radically different numbers of things | 16:18 |
| johnsom | Do we have a spec for this? | 16:18 |
| * rm_work sighs again | 16:18 | |
| rm_work | don't think so | 16:18 |
| * johnsom grins with an evil smirk | 16:19 | |
| haleyb | feel like i'm a stormtrooper getting some jedi-talk, but it was from https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/octavia-train-ptg | 16:19 |
| haleyb | ooh, train | 16:19 |
| rm_work | ah there is a story | 16:19 |
| rm_work | ok so it does say % in there | 16:20 |
| haleyb | but it mentions % over a time period | 16:20 |
| * haleyb could have looked at the story before asking... | 16:21 | |
| rm_work | HA, quoting michael: | 16:21 |
| rm_work | Personally, I am not sure percentage is a good way to measure this as a large deployment may see a single rack outage as a small percentage of their amphora (2,000+ load balancers is not uncommon). | 16:21 |
| rm_work | I am thinking the threshold might be best set to a number slightly larger than the maximum number of amphora you would expect on a single host. | 16:21 |
| rm_work | --Michael Johnson, 2020-02-21 | 16:21 |
| haleyb | yeah, that makes more sense, so maybe just need to add to release note or comment in conf file | 16:22 |
| johnsom | lol, yeah, I'm open to re-thinking this. | 16:22 |
| rm_work | no, no rethinking, i agree with you | 16:22 |
| rm_work | your opinion is set in stone right there :P | 16:22 |
| johnsom | Oh, I meant the percentage thing in the story | 16:23 |
| johnsom | grin | 16:23 |
| rm_work | heh | 16:23 |
| rm_work | ok soooo | 16:26 |
| rm_work | i guess that's it | 16:26 |
| haleyb | i guess | 16:27 |
| rm_work | unless we want to continue this percentage discussion for another 30m | 16:27 |
| rm_work | we CAN do that :P | 16:27 |
| johnsom | This is a priority for us to get merged | 16:27 |
| rm_work | IMO it is fine as-is | 16:27 |
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| rm_work | but if you want to add percentage parsing too ... i guess... you could do that if you want | 16:27 |
| haleyb | it would have to be a separate option imo | 16:28 |
| johnsom | Yeah, I agree | 16:29 |
| johnsom | Personally I would implement one way and see if there is a need for the other. | 16:29 |
| haleyb | johnsom: ack, maybe we can just add your "threshold slightly larger than # amps on a compute node" to the release note? | 16:31 |
| johnsom | Sure | 16:31 |
| haleyb | i'll send a quick update since it's needs a rebase anyway most likely | 16:32 |
| johnsom | So it looks like an absolute value is what is implemented in the patch, so I think we should just move forward with that and see how it goes | 16:32 |
| haleyb | sure | 16:33 |
| rm_work | i commented with some examples | 16:36 |
| johnsom | +1 | 16:36 |
| johnsom | Any thing else today? | 16:40 |
| rm_work | nope | 16:40 |
| rm_work | have fun ya'll | 16:40 |
| rm_work | #endmeeting | 16:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Discussions for OpenStack Octavia | Priority bug review list: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/octavia-priority-reviews" | 16:40 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 6 16:40:41 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:40 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2021/octavia.2021-01-06-16.00.html | 16:40 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2021/octavia.2021-01-06-16.00.txt | 16:40 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2021/octavia.2021-01-06-16.00.log.html | 16:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Brian Haley proposed openstack/octavia master: Failover stop threshold https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/octavia/+/656811 | 19:22 |
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