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openstackgerritMichael Johnson proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas-dashboard master: Fix neutron-lbaas-dashboard and octavia-dashboard  https://review.openstack.org/64293100:41
openstackgerritMichael Johnson proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas-dashboard master: Fix neutron-lbaas-dashboard and octavia-dashboard  https://review.openstack.org/64293100:44
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kosa777777is it by design that inside Amphora I see gratuitous ARP every 10 seconds for VIP on master?01:55
xgermanyes, in active=passive keeplaived will send that out02:45
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johnsomYes, we found some clouds needed aggressive GARPs.  It is configurable however.03:07
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rm_work(though disabling it entirely is a bit of a pain)03:13
rm_work(but also will make things not work correctly if you're using the default network driver, lol)03:13
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lxkonghi johnsom, rm_work, do you know if there is a simple way (using the current API) to let the user know which vm that a pool member represents?05:15
rm_workYou can have the user name it with the VM ID or something05:21
rm_workThere's no hard linkage05:21
lxkongrm_work: thanks05:22
lxkongdoes member support tags?05:22
lxkonganswer the questions for myself, yes, member supports tags05:32
rm_workAh right we added tags this cycle :D05:35
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/octavia master: Remove unnecessary \n from create_certificates.sh  https://review.openstack.org/64218510:42
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openstackgerritCarlos Goncalves proposed openstack/octavia stable/rocky: Fix LB failover when in ERROR  https://review.openstack.org/64300511:06
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openstackgerritCarlos Goncalves proposed openstack/octavia master: Add error-handling for permission of /etc/octavia  https://review.openstack.org/64219212:37
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roukoswarfwhat would cause the subnet name not being visible in octavia's  horizon ui and the dropdown empty for external member add unless the user is an admin?15:19
roukoswarfit ends up dumping {$ ctrl.getSubnetName(row) $} to the interface15:21
johnsomAre the subnets visible to the horizon users project?15:22
johnsomIf the subnet is owned by another project it will not be visible15:22
roukoswarfi can see them in the network list under the project15:22
roukoswarfand they are owned by the project15:22
johnsomHmm, I am not sure then.  It might be a bug. Can you open a story for it with your test scenario?15:23
roukoswarfah wait... i can see the networks but not the subnets..15:23
roukoswarfwhat could cause not seeing subnets but seeing their parent networks?15:24
roukoswarf(it works as admin)15:24
johnsomSome sort of RBAC issue in neutron would be my guess. Or the networks are “shared” but the subnets are not.15:25
roukoswarfis there a ownership of the subnet? i recently moved projects between domains, and it worked before the move, and ive been tuning the rbac, but subnets dont get rbac or any project link..15:27
roukoswarfhmm, seems there is15:29
roukoswarfjohnsom: subnet project id cant be changed by the api? whats the best way to change it? its on a random other project15:32
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johnsomI don't think you can change the subnet project ID via the neutron API.16:03
ricolinjohnsom, Hi will there be a test-only-amphora-x64-haproxy-ubuntu-bionic out in the near future?:)16:15
johnsomricolin Hi there.  We have a gate that runs with it. I think we just haven't got around to a nightly job.16:16
johnsomricolin I can probably add that today.16:16
ricolinjohnsom, cool!16:17
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openstackgerritMichael Johnson proposed openstack/octavia master: Add a bionic test image periodic job.  https://review.openstack.org/64309316:20
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ricolinjohnsom, that's fast:)16:24
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openstackgerritGerman Eichberger proposed openstack/octavia master: Refactors LB delete flow and removes listener delete  https://review.openstack.org/64291416:28
openstackgerritGerman Eichberger proposed openstack/octavia master: Change the driver to a singleton  https://review.openstack.org/58910016:29
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openstackgerritMichael Johnson proposed openstack/octavia master: Add a bionic test image periodic job.  https://review.openstack.org/64309316:36
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colin-"aap"?17:17
johnsomAllowed Address Pair (AAP) https://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/network/v2/index.html?expanded=show-port-details-detail#show-port-details17:21
colin-ah, of course17:24
colin-is there any circumstance where we force a delete on a neutron port or nova vm?17:24
colin-i can't find one anywhere but wanted to ask17:24
johnsomWe call the delete APIs, but we don't have anything that "forces" a delete to my knowledge. We have had problems with both nova and neutron deletes not behaving properly though.17:27
johnsomNova has a habit of returning "DELETED", but in reality it's not deleted and there is an extended status field that says "deleting".17:28
johnsomNeutron port deletes are async as well and can take some time to actually be deleted.17:28
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xgermancolin I encountered people who would rather have ports which are not cleaned up properly than LBs going into error. So I started down the road of insulating the ports to a specific amp and then recreating the ports upon failover… in any case there a re a few patches up there improving upon the port situation with nova, etc .18:15
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colin-i got that sense from how the app behaves, ya18:47
colin-considering how best to handle a scenario where an amp with the nova and/or neutron agetns on it disabled that was previously the master not getting its port unplugged properly before it's plugged to a new amp in order to restore the data plane18:48
colin-and potentially leading to two amps garping for the same mac18:49
johnsomJust a note for folks in areas that do daylight savings: The Octavia meeting is in UTC time, so will be in an hour and six minutes from now.18:54
xgermank, have an interview so depending how much attention that takes I might not be here19:03
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johnsomGood luck!19:54
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johnsom#startmeeting Octavia20:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Mar 13 20:00:02 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is johnsom. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.20:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.20:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'octavia'20:00
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johnsomHi folks20:00
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johnsom#topic Announcements20:00
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johnsomWe are in Stein feature freeze.20:00
johnsomRC1 is next week.20:01
johnsomWe should be focusing on bug fixes and testing.20:01
johnsomAlso of note, congratulations to rm_work for becoming our fearless PTL for the Train cycle!20:01
johnsomI will still be acting PTL until the Stein release is done. That is the second/third week in April.20:02
cgoncalvescongrats and thank you, adam! may the odds be ever in your favor! :)20:02
nmagnezirm_work, congrats!20:02
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johnsomAny other announcements today?20:03
colin-mo/20:03
johnsom#topic Brief progress reports / bugs needing review20:04
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johnsomWell, in between talking to potential employers, I have been looking at bugs fixes, etc.20:04
rm_worko/20:05
johnsomI posted a patch that addresses a long standing issue with the spares pool over building.20:05
johnsom#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/642602/20:05
rm_workI was surprised to see you tackle that, nice :D20:05
johnsomI am looking at the neutron-lbaas-dashboard today to see if I can make it cohabitate with the octavia-dashboard.20:06
rm_workLooks like it was easier than we kept thinking? lol20:06
johnsomYeah, more people were opening bugs, so I just took some time to address it.20:06
rm_workYeah that would be a big win too -- that causes a lot of confusion20:06
rm_workAnd I'm really not sure why it was ever an issue20:07
johnsomI think having both dashboards loaded is good for migrations, so that is why I'm looking into that now.20:07
colin-yeah it would be20:08
johnsomYeah, to most of us, a few extra spares was.... not important. However, I guess some people cared.20:08
colin-great to hear about spares pool target size20:08
cgoncalvesjohnsom, would that be a fix or a feature?20:08
colin-i appreciate it!20:08
johnsomcgoncalves It's a bug IMO. It used to work, now it doesn't.20:08
cgoncalvesok, good20:09
rm_workYeah I only ever ran one HK process so I never got that bug :P20:09
johnsomIt's a namespace conflict on the backing code for neutron-lbaas-dashboard.20:09
johnsomOtherwise, I will just keep working to address bugs/stories.20:10
rm_workYeah, just not sure why that happened, we just forgot to ever change it to our own NS when we copy pasted it?20:10
cgoncalvesI kept busy since last week reviewing feature patches and now bug fix patches. pity that we didn't make to merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/594040/20:10
cgoncalvesthere's some interesting discussion going on. I'd encourage folks to chime in20:11
johnsomYeah, I migrated the UI namespaces, but neglected the backing code namespaces.20:11
cgoncalveson the spare pool topic, I have this patch open that adds a scenario test https://review.openstack.org/#/c/634988/20:11
johnsomCool, on my list to look at.20:12
johnsomAny other updates?20:12
cgoncalvesI've been spending time in the OVN driver. it now uses the driver agent and so far so good20:13
johnsom+120:13
cgoncalvesthere are some bugs in the OVN driver but the important part is that we haven't encountered so far any issue in the providers framework20:13
johnsomNice!20:14
cgoncalveskudos to Michael for the providers implementation :)20:14
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johnsomThanks! It was a bit of work.20:15
johnsom#topic Open Discussion20:15
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johnsomOther topics for today?20:15
johnsomI have booked my travel for the summit.20:15
cgoncalvessame here. I'll land Sunday and fly out Saturday afternoon20:16
rm_workSame20:16
johnsomI had some airline points I could use.20:16
rm_workMaybe catch some of y'all for dinner on Sunday? ;)20:16
johnsomI will arrive Sunday and leave late Saturday.20:16
colin-msame, look forward meeting folks20:17
cgoncalvesrm_work, sure!20:17
cgoncalvescolin-m, +1 !!20:17
rm_workWe usually have a group chat, maybe we can get that set up ahead of time this time20:17
johnsomrm_work Yeah, I get into Denver in the morning20:17
rm_workIn the past we have used GroupMe and WhatsApp20:17
cgoncalvesgosh, I was going to ask that to the new PTL :D20:18
cgoncalvesyou're fast20:18
cgoncalvesI mean, to move to WhatsApp :)20:18
johnsomI have groupme setup. I don't think I have WhatsApp.20:18
rm_workI'm not sure what's hot these days, maybe Telegram or LINE? :D20:18
rm_workJ/k20:18
colin-mperhaps signal20:18
cgoncalvesoh, ok. whatever, both work for me20:18
colin-mbut sounds good20:18
rm_workYeah, probably WhatsApp is the most common20:18
johnsomYou can also ping me on IRC20:18
rm_workI used signal for a long time too20:18
rm_workYeah, a lot of us have mobile IRC but I find it to be less reliable20:19
rm_workProbably WhatsApp is the most common, though it is owned by FB... :/20:19
johnsomI was thinking I would start an agenda after RC1 is cut. Unless others would like to get started earlier.20:19
cgoncalvesI don't (IRC on mobile). anyway, until the Summit there will be a new trending communication chat20:20
rm_workI wish we could use LINE since they are an Openstack contributor :D20:20
rm_workBut very few people have it20:20
rm_work(outside of Asia)20:20
johnsomHA, yeah, FB apps aren't reliable either given today's issues...20:20
cgoncalvesjohnsom, has the soon-to-be new PTL already delegated that to you? :)20:20
johnsomHa, um, no. But you make a great point. The new PTL should run the Train PTG!20:21
rm_workMichael is still our fearless leader for some time yet ;)20:21
* johnsom leans back in his chair....20:21
rm_workLet's just say we can co-run it during the transition period lol20:22
cgoncalvesba-dum-tss20:22
johnsomWe could establish the PTG committee. Just to keep in line with our over voting20:22
johnsomAnyway, any other topics today?20:23
johnsomOk folks.  Congrats rm_work!  Have a good week smashing bugs!20:25
johnsom#endmeeting20:25
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rm_workThanks 😊20:28
rm_workAnd thanks Michael for your wonderful work for the last several years \(^o^)/20:31
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colin-+120:44
xgermanrm_work congrats!!20:45
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rm_work(^^♪21:12
rm_workI didn't even know the election happened already 😅21:13
rm_workThat was fast21:13
rm_workOr did I just win by default21:13
johnsomIt was uncontested21:13
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rm_workI was hoping I could still lose by lack of confidence vote T_T21:22
rm_workdrat21:22
johnsomlol21:23
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openstackgerritMichael Johnson proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas-dashboard master: Fix neutron-lbaas-dashboard and octavia-dashboard  https://review.openstack.org/64293121:29
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openstackgerritMichael Johnson proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas-dashboard master: Fix neutron-lbaas-dashboard and octavia-dashboard  https://review.openstack.org/64293122:06
johnsomOk, that seems to fix neutron-lbaas-dashboard when installed with octavia-dashboard22:07
johnsomHmm, ha, spoke too soon.22:09
rm_worklol22:28
rm_workare they named obviously now too?22:28
rm_workso often "I see this show up in the dashboard but not in octavia via API"22:28
johnsomI renamed it to "Neutron Load Balancers"22:29
rm_worknot "LBaaS (Old and Busted)" and "LBaaS (New Hotness)"? :D22:29
johnsomhttps://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/mr1DPIJ8/image.png22:29
rm_workhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ha-uagjJQ9k22:30
johnsomlol22:31
johnsomWell, as PTL.....22:31
rm_workI can enforce memes? :D22:31
rm_workmaybe I *will* like this job...22:32
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas-dashboard master: Update node_version to 10  https://review.openstack.org/64317722:43
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openstackgerritMichael Johnson proposed openstack/octavia-dashboard master: Update nodejs to 10 LTS  https://review.openstack.org/64318923:54

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