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| rm_work | johnsom: you ever consider making an amp that has varnish or squid in it too? :P could patch them right into the http flow ^_^ | 01:06 |
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| rm_work | i mean, it'd be horribly orthogonal to LBaaS, but hilariously simple | 01:06 |
| johnsom | Varnish is slow, squid has protocol compliance issues. I like Apache traffic server myself. | 01:07 |
| rm_work | ok well, that then :P | 01:07 |
| rm_work | wait varnish is *slow*? :P | 01:08 |
| johnsom | Yes, I go back and forth on if it should be in or its own service/vm | 01:08 |
| johnsom | You want more storage, more ram, and want to bill different for it | 01:08 |
| johnsom | Eating dinner, catch you in a bit | 01:09 |
| rm_work | yeah, service chaining prolly | 01:18 |
| rm_work | would be better | 01:18 |
| rm_work | but like | 01:18 |
| rm_work | no one is going to make Cache as a Service | 01:19 |
| rm_work | <_< | 01:19 |
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| johnsom | Well, my intent with the octavia worker was to make other aaS easy to make. | 01:37 |
| johnsom | For the cache I don’t think we would need to use sfc, I think we could do it without. | 01:38 |
| johnsom | But the other option is to integrate it, which would be reasonably straight forward | 01:38 |
| johnsom | It is on our roadmap btw | 01:39 |
| johnsom | So maybe Stein or T | 01:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/octavia-tempest-plugin master: Fix a potential IP address conflict https://review.openstack.org/573431 | 01:40 |
| johnsom | And yes, varnish is slow. Slower than nginx even | 01:40 |
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| rm_work | yeah, it's really not difficult i think | 01:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | sunqingliang proposed openstack/octavia master: replace overriden with overridden https://review.openstack.org/575022 | 08:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | ShangXiao proposed openstack/octavia-tempest-plugin master: Update links in README.rst https://review.openstack.org/575030 | 08:41 |
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| ktibi | Hi, Can I use multiple provider for LBAAS with same agent ? (v2 without octavia) | 15:32 |
| ktibi | or I need to have one provider by agent ? | 15:32 |
| johnsom | ktibi Hi, FYI LBAAS is not part of the neutron project any longer. | 15:33 |
| johnsom | Yes, you can have multiple providers (drivers) enabled at the same time for both neutron-lbaas and octavia deployments. | 15:33 |
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| johnsom | The neutron-lbaas agent is only used for the old haproxy/namespace driver. I think all of the other drivers do not use that agent. | 15:34 |
| ktibi | johnsom, ok I need to deploy one agent by provider or can I use one agent with configuration like : service_provider : haproxy,F5,... | 15:34 |
| ktibi | johnsom, I try to use F5 LBAAS but I want to use haproxy too | 15:34 |
| johnsom | ktibi Yes, it is a comma separated list for the service_provider setting. | 15:35 |
| johnsom | Then on the API you specify a "provider" to select the driver. | 15:36 |
| johnsom | when you create the LB | 15:36 |
| ktibi | johnsom, ok thx | 15:36 |
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| johnsom | ktibi Oh, I might be wrong on the comma separated thing. It may be that you just add additional service_provider lines. | 15:37 |
| ktibi | johnsom, no I can't have two times line with the LBAAS attribut | 15:38 |
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| ktibi | we tried too : service_provider = LOADBALANCERV2:Haproxy:neutron_lbaas.drivers.haproxy.plugin_driver.HaproxyOnHostPluginDriver:default,LOADBALANCERV2:F5Networks:neutron_lbaas.drivers.f5.driver_v2.F5LBaaSV2Driver | 15:38 |
| johnsom | Ok. I haven't run neutron-lbaas in a long time | 15:38 |
| ktibi | I can't find an example of configuration with a thing like that :/ | 15:39 |
| johnsom | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/v7RqXN4U/ | 15:39 |
| johnsom | And this form didn't work either? | 15:39 |
| ktibi | johnsom, the error with two lines : ERROR neutron ValueError: Multiple plugins for service LOADBALANCERV2 were configured | 15:40 |
| johnsom | ktibi That error might be a problem with the neutron.conf "service_plugins" section and not the "service_providers" section | 15:41 |
| ktibi | I'll check thx | 15:42 |
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| johnsom | Yeah, can you paste use the neutron.conf {DEFAULT] service_plugins line | 15:42 |
| johnsom | Mine looks like this: | 15:43 |
| johnsom | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/sNEMgUfW/ | 15:43 |
| ktibi | johnsom, ok yes we have lbaasv2 and neutron_lbaas.services.loadbalancer.plugin.LoadBalancerPluginv2 | 15:44 |
| ktibi | I guess it's the same thing | 15:44 |
| johnsom | ktibi Yeah, bingo. Only lbaasv2 should be there | 15:44 |
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| xgerman_ | o/ | 20:00 |
| nmagnezi | \o/ | 20:00 |
| johnsom | #startmeeting Octavia | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 13 20:00:47 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is johnsom. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'octavia' | 20:00 |
| johnsom | Hi folks! | 20:00 |
| cgoncalves | o/ | 20:00 |
| nmagnezi | o/ | 20:01 |
| johnsom | Another fine day in Octavia land | 20:01 |
| johnsom | #topic Announcements | 20:01 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:01 | |
| johnsom | I don't think I have any announcements this week. | 20:01 |
| johnsom | We did release Rocky MS2 | 20:01 |
| rm_work | o/ | 20:02 |
| johnsom | We are now on the path towards MS3 the week of July 23rd | 20:02 |
| johnsom | #link https://releases.openstack.org/rocky/schedule.html | 20:02 |
| johnsom | We need to start prioritizing what we want/need to get into Rocky. | 20:02 |
| johnsom | I plan to setup our "priority review" etherpad this week. | 20:03 |
| johnsom | Does anyone have any other announcements today? | 20:03 |
| johnsom | #topic Brief progress reports / bugs needing review | 20:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Brief progress reports / bugs needing review (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:04 | |
| johnsom | I have been working on bug fixes, the driver support library, and some internal planning stuffs. | 20:04 |
| xgerman_ | I got to know OSP 12… | 20:05 |
| johnsom | Currently I am working on the amphora driver "updates" bug. I had a patch and a plan yesterday but testing (+1 for octavia-tempest-plugin) showed that what I had was not a complete fix. | 20:05 |
| johnsom | I am now working on a new approach (well, the old one) to the problem. Hopefully a patch will arrive today. | 20:05 |
| johnsom | Then I'm going to tackle the active/standby both amphora down bug. This is critical for Rocky (and backports) IMO | 20:06 |
| rm_work | \o/ | 20:06 |
| nmagnezi | johnsom, can you link that story please? | 20:07 |
| * rm_work cheers for johnsom | 20:07 | |
| johnsom | Sure, it might take me a minute to find it. | 20:07 |
| rm_work | if you want to discuss that, let me know | 20:07 |
| rm_work | https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2001481 | 20:07 |
| rm_work | #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2001481 | 20:07 |
| johnsom | Yep, that one | 20:07 |
| cgoncalves | we all can leave the room. johnsom is handling everything so nicely :) | 20:07 |
| johnsom | Ha! | 20:07 |
| johnsom | Happy to let someone take the dual down bug!!!!!!! | 20:08 |
| rm_work | i did have some thoughts, as i've been noodling it (and working in that area of the flows) for a bit | 20:08 |
| johnsom | Step right up! No waiting.... | 20:08 |
| rm_work | but i don't have time to take it | 20:08 |
| rm_work | I think | 20:08 |
| johnsom | Yeah, I am not sure if I will "make it good enough" or attack the "better way to do it". It will just depend on the scope. Whatever, it needs fixed sooner | 20:09 |
| johnsom | That said, I have a number of Octavia patches open that could use some reviews | 20:10 |
| johnsom | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:%22Michael+Johnson+%253Cjohnsomor%2540gmail.com%253E%22++status:open | 20:10 |
| johnsom | Anybody else have updates? | 20:11 |
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| cgoncalves | grenade patch is ready but awaits parent patch to merge | 20:12 |
| cgoncalves | barbical acl patch: I worked a little bit on it and got it to work, including revoke acls when not needed anymore | 20:12 |
| johnsom | cgoncalves Do grenade *need* that patch? I think my zombie patch may replace rm_works | 20:13 |
| cgoncalves | I've tested also https://review.openstack.org/#/c/568361/ | 20:13 |
| cgoncalves | johnsom, I can rebase on top of yours instead, sure | 20:13 |
| johnsom | Yeah, wondering if rm_work can review and decide if it's a complete duplicate or not | 20:13 |
| johnsom | I think our discussions led us to it was a dup | 20:14 |
| johnsom | It would be great to get grenade merged so we can move forward on the updates stuff in Rocky | 20:14 |
| johnsom | cgoncalves How did you solve the multi-use of a cert when revoking? | 20:15 |
| johnsom | Also, thank you for you work on all three of these. Do you plan to vote on the DB speedup? | 20:15 |
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| cgoncalves | johnsom, by querying if there's any other listener pointing to the same cert | 20:16 |
| cgoncalves | if there is, do not revoke | 20:16 |
| cgoncalves | johnsom, I do plan but first I want to check with L7 rules. also health monitor listing still takes a long time | 20:17 |
| johnsom | Hmm, ok, I will have to look at how that locks so we don't hit concurrency issues | 20:17 |
| johnsom | Ok | 20:17 |
| cgoncalves | I didn't want to discourage the author by asking to also work on the health monitor if other reviewers don't think it's required | 20:18 |
| johnsom | Yeah, it is fine to incrementally make improvements. As long as it doesn't make it worse... | 20:18 |
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| cgoncalves | so far it's been improving. the author had not touched listeners and I asked if he could otherwise I could submit since I had something drafted | 20:19 |
| cgoncalves | anyway, I'll keep on reviewing it | 20:19 |
| johnsom | Nice | 20:20 |
| johnsom | Any other updates? | 20:20 |
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| johnsom | #topic Talk about API versioning/microversioning | 20:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Talk about API versioning/microversioning (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:21 | |
| johnsom | Now I know Adam is not able to participate in this discussion this week, so we will probably carry it over to next weeks meeting. | 20:21 |
| johnsom | However, I did look at this a bit. | 20:21 |
| johnsom | I'm not sure if others did any research on it. | 20:22 |
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| nmagnezi | johnsom, I asked around about micro versioning in Neutron | 20:22 |
| xgerman_ | well, they use extensions | 20:22 |
| johnsom | I think my biggest issue with microversions is the fact that if you don't ask for the newer versions with an HTTP header you get the oldest major | 20:22 |
| johnsom | nmagnezi What did you learn? | 20:23 |
| nmagnezi | johnsom, I was told to look at Nova... so, looks like Neutron doesn't really implement this. they indeed use api extentions | 20:23 |
| johnsom | Yeah, that was my perception as well | 20:24 |
| nmagnezi | as for Nova I didn't had the chance to reach out to anybody who work on it, but I started to read https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/contributor/microversions.html | 20:24 |
| johnsom | #link https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/api-wg/guidelines/microversion_specification.html | 20:24 |
| johnsom | #link https://docs.openstack.org/tempest/latest/microversion_testing.html#step4-separate-test-classes-for-each-microversion | 20:24 |
| johnsom | Are two references I have been looking at. | 20:24 |
| nmagnezi | johnsom, question is: say we decide to use microversioning (or just bump minor versions) is that a thing we can still do in Rocky? | 20:25 |
| johnsom | Tempest is basically just skipping tests if the API doesn't support the version | 20:25 |
| xgerman_ | we can do version discovery | 20:26 |
| johnsom | nmagnezi I really think we should have a plan and advertise a version in Rocky. Now a full on microversion support, maybe not. | 20:26 |
| johnsom | xgerman_ Not at the moment, the patch has not merged over the versioning discussion | 20:26 |
| xgerman_ | +1 unless somebody has a lot of time | 20:26 |
| nmagnezi | xgerman_, yeah I was suggested with that too (I presume you mean doing it in the tempest plugin). the question is how terrible will be the maintanance of it | 20:27 |
| xgerman_ | yeah, that whole microversion stuff feels pre-mature + most clouds have a pretty recent version of Ovctavia | 20:27 |
| xgerman_ | nova, on the other hand, has icehouse clouds to deal with | 20:28 |
| johnsom | Right. I have some thoughts I need to put together, but at a high level I'm thinking we don't do microversions now. We do dot versions, 2.0, 2.1, 2.3 and only do additions to the API. We then use a similar tempest setup that puts new features into versioned test classes. Or we cheat and just do skips. | 20:29 |
| johnsom | I only propose the skips because of the LB boot overhead the separate classes would bring. | 20:30 |
| nmagnezi | johnsom, skips by what? like in rm_work's patch? | 20:30 |
| cgoncalves | so every single patch that touches the API should bump the dot version? | 20:30 |
| johnsom | Ugh, another thing someone needs to work on is the multi-node gates | 20:30 |
| johnsom | cgoncalves right. | 20:30 |
| johnsom | nmagnezi I don't know, I haven't looked at his proposed patch in a few weeks | 20:31 |
| nmagnezi | cgoncalves, yeah we might end up with version numbers that look like macOS :) | 20:31 |
| johnsom | lol | 20:31 |
| xgerman_ | nothing wrong with that | 20:31 |
| johnsom | Better than "all versions are 2.0" | 20:31 |
| nmagnezi | johnsom, +1 | 20:31 |
| cgoncalves | ok, wanted to make sure. it will be an important thing when reviewing | 20:31 |
| johnsom | The nice thing with that approach is people will get the latest by default. | 20:32 |
| johnsom | Downside is it means we can't remove or break what we have there now. | 20:32 |
| johnsom | Not until a major bump | 20:32 |
| nmagnezi | johnsom, do you have anything in mind that you intended to refactor in the current API? | 20:33 |
| johnsom | Well, let's keep thinking about it and plan to make some decisions next week. | 20:33 |
| xgerman_ | k | 20:33 |
| johnsom | Unless of course cgoncalves is out one yet another vacaction/holiday.... grin | 20:33 |
| xgerman_ | he can vote by mail | 20:34 |
| johnsom | +1 | 20:34 |
| johnsom | #topic Open Discussion | 20:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:34 | |
| johnsom | Other topics for today? | 20:34 |
| nmagnezi | or by pidgin.. | 20:34 |
| xgerman_ | cgoncalves: nmagnezi wonder if you guys have a periodic Pike amp build somehwere at Redhat | 20:34 |
| cgoncalves | johnsom, I'm in Portugal since yesterday evening :) home-home office :) | 20:35 |
| xgerman_ | (remember my OSP12 advantures…) | 20:35 |
| nmagnezi | xgerman_, no sir. we have that starting Queens | 20:35 |
| xgerman_ | mmh, where’s that at? | 20:35 |
| nmagnezi | xgerman_, we didn't ship Octavia as part of OSP12. | 20:36 |
| xgerman_ | yes, I know - hence my adventures | 20:36 |
| nmagnezi | xgerman_, hmm. when OSP13 gets released.. but we do have something for RDO | 20:36 |
| xgerman_ | ok, tell me more… | 20:36 |
| nmagnezi | #link https://images.rdoproject.org/octavia/master | 20:36 |
| nmagnezi | #link https://images.rdoproject.org/octavia/queens | 20:37 |
| cgoncalves | xgerman_, we do have periodic builds for master and queens in rdo | 20:37 |
| cgoncalves | oh right, those links :) | 20:37 |
| xgerman_ | sweet — might go with queens then | 20:37 |
| johnsom | Are those centos based? | 20:37 |
| johnsom | Oh, yeah, I see it in the hostname | 20:38 |
| nmagnezi | johnsom, didn't check myself, but they should be :) | 20:38 |
| cgoncalves | sure they are centos-based :) | 20:38 |
| johnsom | Yeah, just wasn't sure if it was a rhel that needed a key or something | 20:39 |
| johnsom | Cool | 20:39 |
| xgerman_ | nice | 20:39 |
| nmagnezi | yup. just remember that the user is centos (as opposed to ubuntu that is a habit for devstack workloads with default settings) | 20:40 |
| johnsom | Any other topics today? | 20:40 |
| xgerman_ | will just switch off ssh | 20:41 |
| johnsom | Ok, well, if there isn't anything else, have a good week folks! | 20:43 |
| nmagnezi | o/ | 20:43 |
| johnsom | #endmeeting | 20:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Discussion of OpenStack Load Balancing (Octavia) | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/octavia-priority-reviews" | 20:44 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 13 20:44:11 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:44 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2018/octavia.2018-06-13-20.00.html | 20:44 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2018/octavia.2018-06-13-20.00.txt | 20:44 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2018/octavia.2018-06-13-20.00.log.html | 20:44 |
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| rm_work | sad that the "make ssh user be consistent" thing died | 21:08 |
| johnsom | Still could be done... | 21:10 |
| johnsom | Just some DIB element work IMO | 21:12 |
| rm_work | hey nmagnezi / cgoncalves do you know anyone over there who does work on ansible? | 21:12 |
| rm_work | would love to poke someone from redhat at https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/41506 ^_^ | 21:13 |
| rm_work | johnsom: for the record, even our *hardware in DCs* gets stuck on DHCP and has to sit for a minute or two waiting to time out | 21:15 |
| rm_work | on the default centOS image | 21:15 |
| rm_work | I'm not sure why you're so certain that DHCP isn't something that might need to be disabled in some cases :P | 21:15 |
| johnsom | rm_work DHCP happening is purely dependent on the neutron subnet configuration. It's on when the subnet has DHCP enabled, it's already disabled when the subnet is statically assigning the IP. | 21:17 |
| rm_work | is there a way I can check that with the neutron client? | 21:17 |
| johnsom | Yes | 21:17 |
| rm_work | will it show up in the show? | 21:17 |
| johnsom | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/iUhnh1nv/ | 21:18 |
| johnsom | enable_dhcp True | 21:18 |
| johnsom | That is unless there is a bug in a cloud init version/implementation | 21:19 |
| johnsom | Which maybe centos has | 21:19 |
| johnsom | If I remember right, I went into the cloudinit code to confirm how I see it happen is what is coded. But, that whole discussion was a long time ago now | 21:20 |
| rm_work | yeah it's just this thing is very frustrating, and you've been blocking it for a loooong time | 21:21 |
| johnsom | I'm blocking bad/unnecessary code | 21:22 |
| johnsom | Looking back at that patch it assumes a interface name of "eth" which is not always the case | 21:24 |
| rm_work | johnsom: enable_dhcp is False | 21:29 |
| rm_work | johnsom: I believe the DHCP happens BEFORE the cloud-init stuff loads the network info | 21:30 |
| rm_work | <_< | 21:30 |
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| rm_work | so that'd be a centos bug? | 21:30 |
| johnsom | Maybe, can you grab the nova console log from one of those booting? | 21:31 |
| johnsom | Yeah, looks like I left it at "Please create a bug and provide the console log" | 21:33 |
| rm_work | looking for it yeah | 21:34 |
| rm_work | well it's hard for me | 21:34 |
| rm_work | because i already patched it out | 21:34 |
| rm_work | but trying to get the log from like... one of our HVs | 21:35 |
| rm_work | ah but they don't use the neutron networks :/ | 21:35 |
| rm_work | hold on, i'll upload and boot one of the default images | 21:36 |
| rm_work | need to find them again... | 21:37 |
| rm_work | ah i'll grab one of carlos' | 21:37 |
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| rm_work | johnsom: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/575256/ | 22:23 |
| rm_work | because i am tired of being frustrated by this | 22:23 |
| johnsom | Nice!!! | 22:25 |
| johnsom | It is lame you can't | 22:25 |
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| rm_work | for like ... so long | 22:26 |
| rm_work | i have been taking care of stuff that's frustrating me | 22:27 |
| rm_work | but i've always just been annoyed and left it | 22:27 |
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| rm_work | ahh yeah i knew i forgot something | 22:30 |
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| rm_work | fixed, added unit and functional | 22:49 |
| rm_work | wish i could run their functional locally but their functional is like... REAL CALLS. <_< | 22:49 |
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