Wednesday, 2017-11-08

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openstackgerritHengqing Hu proposed openstack/octavia-dashboard master: Able to manipulate retries down of health monitor  https://review.openstack.org/51841800:40
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openstackgerritBar RH proposed openstack/octavia master: Specify management IP addresses per amphora  https://review.openstack.org/50515801:21
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rm_workjohnsom: i forgot the name Kosmos T_T01:52
johnsomHa, no worries.01:52
johnsomDid someone actually ask?01:52
johnsomI have a few stickers if you want a reminder....01:52
rm_workyeah01:52
rm_worklol01:53
johnsomMust have been a mugsie spy01:53
johnsomThanks for taking that on!01:53
rm_workthank me AFTER you watch it, lol01:53
johnsomHa01:54
rm_workbbl lunch01:55
johnsomYeah, dinner is in the oven01:56
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openstackgerritHunt Xu proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas master: Fix AtrributeError in update_listener  https://review.openstack.org/51845506:03
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openstackgerritHunt Xu proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas master: Fix AtrributeError in update_listener  https://review.openstack.org/51845506:09
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openstackgerritHunt Xu proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas master: Fix AtrributeError in update_listener  https://review.openstack.org/51845506:13
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Yipei_hi, all, i have some problems with amphora in my environment. The details are in this mail #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-November/124332.html07:36
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openstackgerritGuoqiang Ding proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas master: Update the doc link  https://review.openstack.org/51848708:12
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openstackgerritSanthosh Fernandes proposed openstack/octavia master: [WIP] ACTIVE-ACTIVE with exabgp-speaker - Octavia agent  https://review.openstack.org/49101608:33
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nmagnezi rm_work good job with the project update :-)09:30
nmagnezirm_work, waiting for my sticker... :D09:31
nmagnezirm_work, and yeah he didn't like my comment about URLs.. but he just submitted a patch against Octavia as well.. I guess he kinda disagree..09:32
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openstackgerritNir Magnezi proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas master: Fix tempest scenario tests waiters  https://review.openstack.org/51793110:26
openstackgerritNir Magnezi proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas master: Fix tempest scenario tests waiters  https://review.openstack.org/51793110:30
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openstackgerritSanthosh Fernandes proposed openstack/octavia master: [WIP] ACTIVE-ACTIVE with exabgp-speaker - Octavia agent  https://review.openstack.org/49101612:12
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openstackgerritGuoqiang Ding proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas master: Update the doc link  https://review.openstack.org/51848713:00
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/octavia master: Stop child objects changing status when LB locked  https://review.openstack.org/51486714:13
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nmagnezirm_work, johnsom, this looks like it's ready for merge (missing only W+1) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/456420/2414:46
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johnsomnmagnezi Just a reminder, you are a core too...  Grin15:37
johnsomrm_work You are probablay sleeping, but nice job on the project update!15:39
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xgerman_:-)15:45
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openstackgerritSanthosh Fernandes proposed openstack/octavia master: [WIP] Adding exabgp-speaker element to amphora image  https://review.openstack.org/49016415:50
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fariddahi guys, i see in the ansible role of octavia some parameter related to octavia_stack_domain but i don't find it in the configuration. Is it possible to do it ? (https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible-os_octavia/blob/ed18ae63f6507f6f0d04d8c6c2dbd501388df113/defaults/main.yml#L89)16:00
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johnsomfaridda xgerman_ worked on the Ansible role, he should be able to answer16:02
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xgerman_howdy… looking16:10
xgerman_faridda not sure what stack domain is used for we started out with a copy of. a different role and copy&pasted16:14
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fariddaxgerman: ha okidoki, i was curious if i can do like heat and the trustee domain, thx16:16
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/octavia master: Fix health_manager to exit without waiting  https://review.openstack.org/45642017:08
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openstackgerritGerman Eichberger proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas master: Octavia Proxy Plugin  https://review.openstack.org/41853018:09
xgerman_^^ we should merge that sooner than later. Had to fix some unit tests to make it pass18:09
xgerman_18:09
johnsomWell, if it is working now, I will give it another shot18:10
xgerman_I think it does…18:10
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nmagnezijohnsom, just wanted to make sure there is no specific reason for the missing W+1, since it has two core votes already19:03
nmagnezi:D19:03
johnsomYeah, but one was the author, so doesn't really count...19:04
nmagnezijohnsom, good point19:05
johnsomSigh, so ping health monitor type in octavia doesn't work...19:10
nmagnezijohnsom, posted a question here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/515770/19:12
nmagnezijohnsom, i think it's good19:12
nmagnezijust making sure19:12
johnsomnmagnezi Good catch.  With zuulv3 I think that won't be used anymore, but good to fix it anyway19:14
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nmagnezijohnsom, I just recalled that I'm a core so I +2'ed them both :)19:25
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xgerman_nmagnezi: How can you forget?19:26
nmagnezixgerman_, :-)19:27
nmagnezixgerman_, i don't know why I thought you are at the summit. Was expecting to see you at the project update with rm_work19:28
xgerman_I was hoping to go but budget didn’t work out…19:29
johnsomnmagnezi is ping in /bin/ping on RHEL/CENTOS?19:30
johnsomHmm, I guess I can just discover it19:30
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nmagnezijohnsom, checked fedora and centos /usr/bin/ping19:35
johnsomOk, thanks19:35
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nmagnezijohnsom, correction19:48
fariddahey guys, what will be the best for the creation of the instance octavia. Inside the admin project or should i create another project for that ?19:48
nmagnezijohnsom, isee /bin -> usr/bin19:48
xgerman_faridda we usually bolt into a service account19:49
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johnsomYeah, just for security reasons (why should octavia have admin in swift for example) we like to create a service account for it, though admin will work19:50
johnsomservice accounts are just a bit more work due to get the RBAC right for other services like neutron, etc.19:50
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fariddaok cool thx19:53
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johnsom#startmeeting Octavia20:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Nov  8 20:00:32 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is johnsom. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.20:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.20:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'octavia'20:00
johnsomHi folks!20:00
johnsomLet's see how many people show up since the daylight savings time changed....20:01
johnsom#topic Announcements20:01
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johnsomOpenStack Summit Sydney is/was this week20:01
xgerman_o/20:01
johnsomThe Octavia project update section is posted:20:02
johnsom#link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOTe3TXKBVc20:02
nmagnezio/20:02
johnsomrm_work Did a great job!20:02
nmagnezi+120:02
nmagnezitotally worth your time.20:02
xgerman_+120:03
johnsomAny other announcements this week?20:03
johnsom#topic Brief progress reports / bugs needing review20:03
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johnsomI have mostly been working on gate issues and reviews.  I also posted a patch that makes the neutron network driver a bit more sane in the case of failures.20:04
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johnsomI also have had a few internal things to work on but that should be freeing up soon.20:05
johnsomI plan to fix the PING healthmonitor type here in the next few hours, then on to Act/Act20:05
johnsomAnyone else have updates?20:05
nmagneziyes20:06
nmagnezinot a specific bug related20:06
nmagnezibut since the python client is now in a good shape20:06
johnsomI could use a review on:20:06
johnsom#link https://review.openstack.org/51308620:06
nmagneziwe started to process of packaging it for fedora and centos/rhel20:06
nmagnezijust and fyi20:06
nmagnezian*20:06
johnsomNice!20:06
xgerman_+120:07
nmagnezialso, pushing hard with tripleO and making progress, we aim to finish everything in queens. I'll keep you posted.20:07
johnsomYeah, I really like using the new client.20:08
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johnsomOk, moving on...20:08
nmagnezisorry. that's more of an open discussion kind of stuff when I think about it..20:08
johnsomNo, it's a good progress update.20:09
xgerman_yep20:09
johnsomThe whole point of this section is to share with the wider team what everyone is working on.20:09
nmagneziokay :)20:09
johnsomAny others?20:10
johnsom#topic Provider driver spec20:10
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johnsom#link https://review.openstack.org/50995720:10
johnsomSo we have this spec up for review, but we seem to be moving a bit slowly on it.20:11
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johnsomThe wider OpenStack groups like to have the specs merged in the first milestone, which has now come and past.20:11
johnsomSo, I would like to light a bit of a fire under this and get it boiling...  hahaha20:11
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johnsomlongstaff Do you have any updates/thoughts?20:12
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Alex_Staf_o/20:13
johnsomHmm, he might not be in the meeting today.20:13
nmagnezimaybe it's worth changing the topic and commit msg for him20:14
nmagneziwho knows. maybe it will attract more attention and feedback20:14
nmagneziit's hard to know what this is about by looking at that topic20:14
johnsomIs m-greene_ lurking?20:14
johnsomor m-greene-20:14
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johnsomYeah, I was wondering if there were updates in flight or if we can push some updates to it.20:15
nmagnezii think that just changing the topic to reflect the patch content is harmless20:15
nmagnezi:)20:15
johnsomI try to check with the author before going and pushing patches, just in case they have stuff in-flight20:16
xgerman_yep, we are nice people here ;-)20:16
xgerman_but we also need to get this moving… ML?20:16
johnsomOk, I will try to ping longstaff later and see if I can catch him.  My intent would be to grab the patch and add some polish20:17
xgerman_+120:17
johnsomYeah, good idea.  I can send out a note to the mailing list (after we get the title cleaned up) and solicit reviews.20:18
johnsomThank you to those of you that have already provided feedback!20:19
johnsomAny other discussion on the provider spec?20:19
johnsom#topic Open Discussion20:19
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johnsomOk, how about other topics today?20:20
xgerman_we probably should stress that Q-2 is closer than people might think ;-)20:21
johnsomYeah, Q2 is a month away, the week of December 4th20:22
johnsom#link https://releases.openstack.org/queens/schedule.html20:22
nmagnezi#link https://releases.openstack.org/queens/schedule.html20:22
nmagnezilol20:22
xgerman_lol20:23
johnsomYeah, there...20:23
johnsomGrin.  Ok, so if there aren't any more topics today, we can end early, do reviews, and I can get started fixing this health monitor ping thing20:23
xgerman_+!20:23
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johnsomThanks folks!  Catch you next week, same Octavia channel.20:24
johnsom#endmeeting20:24
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longstaffjohnsom Sorry I missed the Octavia meeting. When you have a few minutes, we can chat about what you'd like from me for the driver spec.20:53
johnsomlongstaff Hi!20:54
longstaffHi -- my apologies for missing the meetin20:54
johnsomMostly I am interested in how we can get that moving forward a bit faster.20:54
johnsomNo worries20:54
longstaffYes, me too.20:55
longstaffThe open issue for me is a common library for updating status/stats20:55
longstaffIs there more that needs to be addressed than the common library issue?20:56
johnsomThere are more comments, that library idea needs to be described, and we need to get the data structures in there for the CRUDs.20:58
johnsomOh, and the commit message is messed up a bit.20:58
longstaffI'll update the commit message.20:58
johnsomIf you are short on time, others can also contribute to it, as long as you are ok with that and don't have changes in flight.20:58
longstaffI have minor changes that I can add, and am happy to accept help. For the CRUD data structures, are these already defined as part of the Octavia API?21:01
johnsomKind of, but we can do better here.  Basically we need to describe what driver authors can expect to get handed....21:01
longstaffDefined as JSON?21:02
johnsomRight.  For example we plan to have the certificate info in the JSON going to the drivers, where the API doesn't.21:02
johnsomWe can do the pass-the-baton thing, when you have posted your changes, you can post here that it's available for others to contribute.21:05
longstaffok. I'll create another patch today and ask for others to contributes after that.21:06
johnsomCool.  Let me know how it is going or if you need something.21:07
longstaffWill do. Thanks for you help.21:07
johnsomPlus keeping us honest as a driver developer...  grin21:07
slaweq_johnsom: hi, can You maybe take a look once again at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509708/ ?21:11
slaweq_thx in advance21:11
johnsomslaweq_ What are you planning to use this for?21:12
johnsomneutron-lbaas is probably going to be deprecated during Queens, so I'm trying to understand the use case better.21:13
slaweq_in fact currently we are doing some our extension for neutron-lbaas (it's not opensourced) and we need it so I though that it would be good to add such possibility in upstream code as it is in Neutron for example21:13
slaweq_if You think that it's bad idea, I can abandon it21:13
johnsomI'm not sure it's a bad idea, just trying to understand it.21:14
slaweq_we need such change to add some our attribute to pool member IIRC21:15
johnsomSo you are adding special attributes to pool and member, outside of the neutron-lbaas code.21:15
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slaweq_yes21:16
slaweq_we have our lbaas service plugin implementation21:16
johnsomOk21:16
slaweq_and as we need to add some attribute to pool_member such change was required21:16
johnsomAre you looking to how you would do this with Octavia?21:16
johnsomAre you implementing a provider driver?21:17
slaweq_not yet, we are now focused only on neutron-lbaas21:17
slaweq_but in future we will probably need to look at Octavia also21:17
johnsomOk, just a heads up that neutron-lbaas is going away.  Like I said, we want to announce the deprecation during Queens.21:18
slaweq_currently we are implementing our service plugin to integrate neutron-lbaas with OVH loadbalancer service21:18
johnsomThank you for the context, it helps.  I will review21:18
slaweq_I know that it will be deprecated21:18
slaweq_and thx for review of it21:18
slaweq_have a nice day21:19
johnsomslaweq_ You might want to review https://review.openstack.org/509957 and comment21:19
johnsomIt is the spec for adding load balancing driver to Octavia.  Now is the time to get any extra needs/comments in.21:19
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slaweq_ok, I will take a look on it21:20
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openstackgerritMichael Johnson proposed openstack/octavia master: Merge haproxy-octavia elements  https://review.openstack.org/51862422:06
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xgerman_johnsom: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509708/3 this alters the API so we would need to do the same in Octavia? Confused?22:59
johnsomTechnically it doesn't change the existing API, but would let some extend it with another patch.23:00
xgerman_mmh, but I would rather not introduce incompatibilities iwth Octavia V2 API23:00
johnsomIf they want that functionality, yeah, it would have to be added in octavia too.23:00
johnsomI'm really on the fence on this one23:00
johnsomIt doesn't as that patch stands23:00
johnsomAt least I don't think it does.23:01
johnsomFeel free to push back23:01
xgerman_you can now add attributes to the map which I believe changes the API23:02
johnsomBut there is no code that does that right?23:02
xgerman_yes, there is not — but it opens the door23:03
johnsomYeah.  So -1 it23:04
xgerman_on it23:05
openstackgerritMichael Johnson proposed openstack/octavia master: Fix health monitor type "PING" to use icmp ping  https://review.openstack.org/51863223:07
rm_workjohnsom: ugh, I said "um" or "uh" on a pretty regular cadence, about every 10 words >_< I'm really wishing i hadn't watched any of that23:29
johnsomHahaha, no worries man23:29
johnsomIt still went well23:30
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rm_workjohnsom: so why do we have to leave a backwards-compatible element? the element is used by the diskimage-create.sh script in the same checkout, which means we can just wipe it and it should be no problem?23:31
johnsomOnly if someone has created there own script23:32
johnsomI mean, really, we probably could just nuke these old directories23:32
rm_workyesplz23:32
rm_work-1'd to that effect23:33
rm_workeverything *-ubuntu should just be merged into the main element and deleted23:33
rm_workjohnsom: wtf why can't it ping? O_o23:37
johnsomYeah, well, that is a different question23:38
rm_worki thought haproxy did that *internally*23:38
johnsomOther than using PING is 99.9999% dumb23:38
rm_workso there's a bug in haproxy with pinging?23:38
johnsomI couldn't find it.23:38
rm_workerr23:39
rm_workso you mean like... it NEVER did?23:39
johnsomI looked in 1.7 and 1.6, don't see it.  Didn't really go back in history23:39
rm_workummm23:40
rm_worklol23:40
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rm_workyeah i guess it does, uh... TCP handshake checks...23:42
rm_workhmmmmmm Aloha does ICMP23:42
rm_workoption icmp check [interval <seconds>] [timeout <seconds>] [source <ip>]23:43
rm_workoh wow that's an old bug23:43
rm_workhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/142615123:43
openstackLaunchpad bug 1426151 in neutron "PING health-monitor in LBaaS Haproxy sends a TCP request to members " [Low,Invalid]23:43
rm_workinteresting, yeah: https://alohalb.wordpress.com/2014/06/06/binary-health-check-with-haproxy-1-5-php-fpmfastcgi-probe-example/23:44
rm_work"ICMP (ping) check (not available in HAProxy)"23:45
rm_worknmagnezi: yeah i didn't +A because I was a co-author, but +2d because I wasn't the actual author, just helped do some merging23:45
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johnsomYeah, well, I think I have a reasonable solution.  Just testing now...23:46
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